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order to catch people cheating. Now we are back with a previous guest, we’re doing part two of our
show. We recently had on John S. Captain who's from Portland, Oregon, right John?
John: Yes sir.
Ed: Okay. We did two hours with John. We taped it the other day and John's over in China. So for him
right now it's like one o'clock in the morning, for me right now it's like eight o'clock in the morning. So
we covered a lot of material. We were spanning the globe. We covered a lot of material last time on the
death and mysterious circumstances around the death of Tiffany Jenks, who was his girlfriend. Basically
she came down on a flight one night from Pendleton, Oregon to Portland. She went to John's house,
then she went to a bar. She ran into these three people. She met up with these three characters who
had just flown at the town themselves from Oakland and from Washington state. They lured her to a
park, shot her in the head.
Then they got a pretty good deal for their sentence. John, I want to ask you a couple of more questions
quickly about the night of the murder. One thing is you described-- by the way people need to listen to
the first show first, otherwise you're not going to understand what we're talking about here. You
mentioned in the last show that they had abused a child, sexually molested a child in the motel room
that night, but in the newspaper accounts, I can't find that.
John: Yes, you will find that every single thing that did really happen, you don't find in the police reports
or any information that was given to the public. That's part of the cover-up. And out of my 100 facts to
this case, I would say 90% of them are not told to the public. So, in terms of the child molestation
charges, Joshua Robinett who was Tiffany's co killer did get charged in the molestation of the child.
However, the mother did not. Now how that all transpired was, the shooter who's Daniel Brunel said
when they got back to the hotel after murdering Tiffany, he witnessed them, the couple
[inaudible00:05:06] having sex with the child in their bed. How the mother didn't get charged with that I
have no idea. But the police report depositions of Daniel Brunel in California show that he said he got
sick because he couldn't believe that must've been a child.
Ed: That doesn't turn up in any reporting whatsoever. Another question I have, but they were charged
with that crime, Joshua was charged with that crime.
John: Correct. Child molestation of her daughter, but they didn't ever tie the crimes together. It's like
celebrating a murder with a child molestation, kind of odd.
Ed: Did anybody know she was coming that night from Pendleton to Portland on that plane?
John: Well, oddly enough, I had gotten a series of emails. There's a photo of that on my Facebook page
at John S. Captain. In that series of emails, it's posted on my photos page. It says, I have my bags, I'll see
you at nine. And then followed by some other strange ones, like I'm going to kill you in all capital letters.
I knew she was coming, I didn't know exactly from where, her family lived in Pendleton Oregon, but I
don't believe she had contact with them. In fact, her mother said she hadn't seen her in months. At least
after the death that's what she told me. But as far as coming from Pendleton, I don't know who all knew
that other than the fact that she told me she was coming to see me.
Ed: Do we know when she bought that ticket?
John: Well, oddly enough, in the police report it says that she purchased ticket upon arrival. I said to the
DA, well, that's got to be the first time in the history of America that somebody could purchase a ticket
on arrival. But according to police reports, it says, Tiffany Jenks, purchased her one way ticket at the
Portland airport upon arrival. I thought, well that's weird, perhaps that ought to be a mistake.
Ed: Well, maybe she purchased a return ticket and then they merged.
John: No, it was specific. It was a one way ticket and they had to have made a mistake because nobody
can buy a ticket after they arrive.
Ed: You didn't ask anybody about that, did you just talk to anybody about that?
John: No. You could read and I can send to you the complete police report of the arrests. You’ll find that
not one single thing makes sense, and there's nobody to ask because nobody's going to answer any
questions for you. At least not in this group anyways.
Ed: See, the thing is though I read a lot of police reports and they're rife with errors and mistakes, all
kinds of crazy. You'll have two reports and they say the crime happened in the kitchen and another
report says it happened in the bedroom and they all have witnesses giving different rooms.
John: I see. I've never read one before other than going to college for criminology. But I will say that the
entire police report that was written for the arrest warrant for the killers was actually about me, so it
was kind of weird.
Ed: Now also too, what was I going to ask you, just skipped off my mind?
John: So basically, you have the police reports that are written saying that Tiffany came from Pendleton
to come see me and eventually she then did come to see me. Which is fine, but whether or not other
people knew she was coming there. I know her mother knew she was coming to see me because her
mother told me right after the murder, well, Tiffany said she was coming to see you. But then on the
other hand, her own sister, Jennifer said we had no idea where she was or why she was way out there.
All we knew was she had the abusive ex-boyfriend, so it was clear early on that there was conflicting
reports even from her own family.
Ed: But what about her friends that you're in contact with, did any of them know she was coming since
you've been talking to them since this?
John: Well I don't know any of her friends and the ones that I did know, they never told me a word
about anything at all. And they have basically not said one single thing in support of the facts of this
case.
Ed: Now, when she flew down from Pendleton to Portland that night, was her plan to return back to
Pendleton or to leave Portland? Where was she going to stay that night?
John: Well I don't know her plans, but hindsight is 2020. I know that she came to my house then later
went to a hotel room after that, but she left my house telling me that she was going to die. So, basically,
I mean she knew she was going to die that night, but in terms of her plans there's some made up story
that she was going to leave on vacation to go to the UK or something to that effect. But I've never seen
any evidence supporting that.
Ed: I ask these questions because these three killers, you look at what they did, they come down into
town, they check into a room, they deface these weapons, and then they leave right away and they go
to another hotel. They bring some guy from Oakland, California. It looks like this was a planned
assassination on the part of those three, but how would they know she was going to be there that
night?
John: Well, first of all, they knew because they were all in contact. And second of all, and I don't know
that to be true. I'm just saying though. You're right, hundred percent, but the probability that Tiffany
didn't know she was going to die is zero because she told me, she told the bartender and she told her
therapist, all three of us, and none of that played out in the court, but you have a person here with
Tiffany that she knows they're going to kill her, but she still goes to die. And I think that's the part that
people need to get. There's no frame of mind other than what I'm claiming to be true, which is that
Tiffany was a victim of mind control. There's no person on earth that would say, I'm going to go die, talk
to you later because they're going to kill me. I'm going to go.
You would have stopped the action of going if you're a normal human being. She was crying and she said
to me, I'm not going to die tonight. So she was fully aware and she looked down to the ground while she
said it, shaking her head like as if she was battling the thought and I said to her, why are you leaving?
What are you doing? Why don't you just stay here? But she had to go, whatever reason she had and I
thought she meant from drinking alcohol when she said she was going to die. I didn't know she meant
from a gunshot. But she then went to the bar and told the bartender that night her life was over as well,
how do you go from telling a bartender, your life is over to actually walking outside to the bar to go die. I
mean, you're only talking about a 15 minute timeline between the time in which she's talking to the
bartender and she actually had met her killers.
Ed: That was a strip club?
John: Well, it was a bar on one side of the strip club on the other, but it doesn't even matter because
Tiffany just went there. That's just the location in which they met. Tiffany walked outside the hotel,
walked to the bar, had two drinks, told the bartender her life was over and walked outside to meet her
killers. There's no possible way any normal human being would have done this.
Ed: Did she ever work at that bar as a stripper?
John: Never. Of course not. She never danced or anything like that?
Ed: Was it common then for women to go and sit in that bar, because some strip club--?
John: I don't know because I don't go to that bar and I don't know, there's two sides to that bar. There's
a bar, bar. I think it was more common that she was planning to meet these people and clearly the
evidence shows, I mean I have recordings of Tiffany talking to her killer Joshua Robinette, and so there's
not a question she knew she was meeting these people there and the notion that this random is not
humanly possible.
Ed: Here in Vegas you got some strip clubs where it's common for women to attend. Had she ever been
to that bar before?
John: I don't know if she's never been there. I didn't know if she’s ever been there and I had never went
there with her, but I think that what happened is that there was probably some texting and
communications going on between her and the killers because she was at my house earlier, say 11 and
telling me that she's going to get killed and they show up at 12 something. She shows up at 12
something, they go outside at 1:40 and she goes outside at 1:43, so if you look at the timeline of events,
they did every action that equaled her reaction. So she showed up, they showed up, she went outside,
they went outside according to the police reports.
So it was like, Hey Ed, I'm going to meet you at the bar. Okay, where you at? I'm over here. Okay, I'll
meet you outside. So now we meet outside and time, by time, by time, they all matched. Their times of
arrivals, her time of meeting them outside and that sort of thing, and you're talking within two minute
difference. It wasn't like Tiffany was outside smoking by herself, and an hour went by and then these
people just kind of moseyed on around and talked to her. She went outside and they went outside at
the exact same time according to police reports.
Ed: You said she confided in the bartender that she was going to be murdered. But she had just met that
bartender that night. I had the impression that she kind of knew that bartender when you were telling
me this story last time, so she had just met him-John: I don't know for sure if she knew him before. I just know that they were talking for maybe 40
minutes before her killers arrived because they arrived at that bar at some point and there's two sides
to the bar, so she arrived and then they arrived. But the problem was they arrived at the wrong bar, so
they went next door. But what we do know is that when she told the bartender her life was over and
then she left outside and she was outside at 1:43. They were outside at 1:41, it was like equal.
Ed: You know this, because you spoke to the bartender?
John: Well, I know this because he texted me and emailed me the facts, but it was also in one of the
foyer requests that I had gotten, it said that, his name is James Newland. He said, Tiffany told me, she
said, my life is over. That was his exact words. He turned around, she was gone and she had gone
outside.
Ed: Now is this like a loud bar or is it like, was it busy?
John: I would tend to believe it's a pretty loud bar. It was a weekday, but I don't think it was overly busy,
but he turned around and she was gone. I think about 10 minutes had lapsed, he turned around and she
was already gone outside. I think what's important to note is that all along in the story, you'll get the
police story for instance, they said that they all went bar hopping. Well, they didn't go to one single hop
because Tiffany was by herself. She never was inside the bar with her killers. According to all reports I've
ever seen, but except the police claim that they all went bar hopping and so that wasn't true. Tiffany
went outside at 1:43 and at 2:11 AM they all drove away in the car and so there's a big discrepancy in
terms of what really happened about the overall concepts, what the police were saying. Tiffany did not
bar hop with these people at all, she went there to die. She walked outside at 1:43, she met her killers
and 2:11 they drove away.
Ed: Two quick questions for you. One is did she have any money when she came from Pendleton, how
much money does she have?
John: Money, I don't know, but I do know that she made two attempts at her ATM and it declined her.
She also charged $64 twice for drinks, which I found odd and I've asked several times how is that
possible if she was by herself. But she had to approve charges at the bar for $64:50 cents each time, but
she also tried to use the ATM for $201 twice and it declined. And that's base police report that goes all
over.
Ed: Was the ATM at a bank or was it one of those ATM machines inside of the strip club?
John: Yes, inside the club.
Ed: Okay, now she came from Pendleton. She arrived at your home and the intention was that she was
going to stay at your home until you found a couple of beers in her purse. Am I right?
John: I don't know what her intentions were because I never really got that from her initial texts,
[inaudible] I'll see you at nine, I didn't know what that meant and I was outside working and so it all just
kind of developed that night. Once I poured her beers out, it was clear she was leaving. And at some
point shortly after that she asked me to call her a cab which I did.
Ed: Okay. I guess it could have been if she wasn't in contact with these three killers and it could have
been at that point that she made the arrangements to meet them.
John: Well I believe that the arrangements were made long before, in addition to that, she had emailed
me that her life was over, that they were going to kill her. So I had three separate emails prior to that
time. Now the killer, one of the killers is Joshua Robinette, he's in recordings with Tiffany. So they knew
each other. And that being said, there's no chance that it was a random meeting that was impossible.
Ed: Are those videos available for review?
John: Yes. They're all on YouTube. If you just type in Tiffany Jenks and then add the word Josh.
Ed: I didn't see it, I looked at a lot of this stuff, but I couldn't find that. Now that's been turned over to
the police and the DA's office?
John: Well I constantly was in contact to them, telling them I have recordings that prove she knew her
killers all the way dating back long before the sentencing. So without a doubt they knew that I had these
and that I had gotten these via her having my cell phone.
Ed: But you never turn that over to them and got a receipt that they received?
John: No, sir. I called them and they didn't ever contact me back.
Ed: What about the defense attorneys? Have the defense attorneys ever had an investigator contact you
and say, hey, we want to explore your theories here?
John: They never, and in fact I called them, I contacted the judge and the district attorney's office both
and left them voicemails for instance. And in the court records it said John Captain left us a voicemail
about his theories and the murder. However, we did not know how to transcribe those to the court
records so they didn't, and here's the key, none of this is my theory. It's actual recordings of Tiffany and
her killer, Joshua Robinette.
Ed: Before we get to that though, we're discussing the theory of the murder night.
John: Yes.
Ed: Now out of all her friends, is there anybody else who agrees with your theory?
John: Well, I think that anybody with any logic that's not involved into this cult would say that there's
something going on here. Her family, no, of course not and her friends no, they're all involved in this
same conspiracy cover-up.
Ed: But what about your friends? You must've had your friends who had met her when she was with you
for a year. You must have who hey, let's go hang out with my girlfriend Tiffany. And then when you tell
them this story now, your theory, what is their reaction?
John: Well, it depends on the person. I've had many of my friends say, let the murder go, or that they
don't believe in mind control at all. So, I don't really talk to them much about it anymore, but of course, I
have 50 people that are very supportive of the idea that Tiffany was a mind control victim and she was
killed for it.
Ed: But these are people that were in your life before you started going on these radio shows and
meeting all these people?
John: Yes, of course.
Ed: Okay. Let me ask you another question. When you were dating Tiffany, did she ever talk to you
about being molested as a child that kind of thing? Early childhood trauma.
John: She told me about being raped. We did not discuss her childhood to that level. But she did record
with her therapist that her father had been molested as well.
Ed: That her father had been molested.
John: Correct.
Ed: And how did she know that?
John: He told her.
Ed: Okay, that's interesting. Do we know who molested him?
John: No.
Ed: All right. So then give me your theory now, how did you come to think--, let me tell you something, I
used to follow this guy named the Alex Constantine. He did all this work on satanic ritual abuse and the
OJ Simpson case, and a voracious reader of all his work. And then he also had this work on mind control.
This is way back in the 80s, and the 90s. I could accept everything, all this stuff he was talking about,
when it came to mind control, it was like a little trigger in my head that says, I can't buy this; this is too
much. Today, I'm very familiar, I do believe there is mind control and it exists. And I believe it's really
pervasive in our society. I think that there's a mass mind control, where they created a mass trauma in
the public and then use it to manipulate us, but I just couldn't accept it when I first heard about it. Now,
what has made you conclude that my control is involved in this murder?
John: Well, I look at it from my standpoint and what the general public could accept too, both at the
same time. So let's pretend your listeners never heard of mind control. I would say I have a plethora of
facts that they don't have that led me to a point where I knew something was wrong, but I didn't know
what. On August 6th of 2014, I was in a restaurant and I had these recordings that I had got from my
investigation that Tiffany had made with her therapist and in the recordings for instance, the therapist
goes tap, tap, tap with a pen on the table, and then Tiffany's voice changes to a baby. And he talks about
demons, dark forces, vampires, and all of this stuff that meant nothing to me at all. And so on that date,
on that August 6th, 2014 so you're looking at, seven, eight months after the murder or more. I still didn't
know that Tiffany was a mind control victim. I met in a restaurant, Clyde Lewis from ground zero radio
and I was in a restaurant and he said he had a radio show and I said, hey, wait a minute. I had my cell
phone with me. I played for him some recordings that Tiffany had made prior to her death, four days
before her death to be exact, where they were talking about vampires, dark forces and her voice had
changed to a baby after he talked about like follow the yellow brick road and Clyde Lewis was just about
passed out, he couldn't believe it. He had never heard of this stuff and he had studied it for 25 years, so
later that night he does a show called grasping at broken straws. And beginning around 50 minutes into
his show, he begins to talk about meeting me and my seeking of justice for Tiffany, which at that point
had nothing to do with mind control, nothing to do with anything.
It just simply was me looking for answers about her murder because the police were lying a hundred
percent and so as that night transpired, he did the radio show. And after that show, he calls me on the
phone, I guess a listener named Cynthia had called his show and said that Tiffany was Illuminati. And
Clyde calls me and he says, why don't you tell me she was Illuminati? And I said, what is that? I don't
even know what that is and so he proceeded to explain to me what it was. And so then I took all that she
had written to me about dark forces and gatekeepers and time stoppers and heart of darkness. And I
took all those words and I typed them in Google against Illuminati. And it took me about two or three
searches. And here comes Fritz Springmeier, a famous author about mind control.
And I emailed Fritz Springmeier that night, and he replies the next day and I said to him, I have a bunch
of recordings, letters, all this stuff she's written me about, a lot of people are going to die, that she
doesn't want her hard work to go towards other people's deaths and that there's so much more that I
don’t understand. So I took all this stuff to his home, including my computers, iPads, phones, everything.
And in 15 minutes he was able to tell me Tiffany was under mind control, a monarch slave for the new
world order. Now, all that meant nothing because I was still the general public, I had never believed any
of this was even remotely possible. So Fritz Springmeier hands me his book and he goes over things, we
spent about a month together after that time. And what I had learned was, that of course Tiffany was
under mind control, not just because of the evidence that I had, that I had an audio, but what she had
written to me about her family's connection to the Illuminati as far as like the RJ Reynolds tobacco and
the fact that here's this girl that left my home under mind control to go die. You're talking about, she
told the bartender she's going to die and within 40 minutes she was dead. That's really weird, what kind
of a human would do that, unless somebody completely under mind control in the first place. But with
that being said, all of the evidence with her therapist that people can listen to online, it says tap, tap,
tap, follow the old brick road, death wishes, demons, vampires, and all this weird stuff that the general
public wouldn't even know. They can go listen to that right now. And then they can transfer that to
Google and say, what does it mean when somebody says, time stopper; gatekeeper and so on with the
Illuminati and mind control. So basically, that's how it all came about. And on that date, August 6, of
2014, from that day forward, everything was based upon the idea that Tiffany was a mind control slave,
for the new world order and that her job as a human was to work at the Dams.
Edd Operman : Let me ask you a couple of questions. This tape, I listened to these clips of these tapes, is
there available for review to the public right now an unedited version of these tapes?
John captain: There’s a portion of the unedited version. The reason why I'm forced to remove portions
of it is because when I post all of it and I have, they remove it because she curses too much.
Edd Opperman: Okay, YouTube.
John Captain: She'll be like F that or F this or he'll say that or something like that, but there are several
parts of that where it's not me talking over what I believe to be the situation. There's a couple, it's under
Tiffany Jenks, Jonathan Weedman.
Edd Opperman: Now, have you ever had like a professional examine these recordings to determine if
nothing's been tampered with on them?
John Captain: No, but I'd be more than happy to let anybody.
Edd Opperman: Yes. Who is Cynthia, Cynthia was a caller into Clyde Lewis?
John Captain: I believe that would've been Tiffany, Tiffany was married for about a 30 day period. As far
as I know, Cynthia was the husband's mother, Tiffany's husband's mother when Tiffany was married for
30 days, but yes, she was a caller into the show.
Edd Opperman: And she said that Tiffany was Illuminati?
John Captain: Correct.
Edd: Okay, I listened to the part with the tap, tap, tap, and to me and I've never met this girl before, but
it did sound like her voice turned into a baby voice to me?
John: Yeah, it does clearly if you understand her voice, she begins right after that and her voice is a
baby. But it's not just that, like you said, I mean knowing the overall context of the recordings that will
help you to see, I mean there are portions where they talk about vampires and they talk about demons
and they talk about, don't tell anybody who you are, it will make you a target and target's get shot at
first. Some of those recordings are kind of strange as well, but yes, if you know who Tiffany is and you
listen to her voice and other recordings, you will know that her voice initially starts out right after that as
a baby.
Edd: So the majority of the evidence that you have that this was a mind control situation is from that
recording?
John: Well, no, I think that the recording plays just one small role. The reason that I know for sure she's
a mind control is a lot deeper than that. Besides the fact that professionals have looked at it like Fritz
Springmeier and Clyde Lewis, David Icke and Richie Allen, they've looked at the evidence that I have. But
not only the discussions that she says in the recordings, of which some of them have not been released
to the public, but the idea that she left my house to go die, and an hour after the bartender, 40 minutes,
let's say she leaves there to go die, that's programmed to go die. Nobody in their right frame of mind or
even in a drunk stupor would ever leave to go get murdered unless they wanted to die. That's just
wouldn't happen, so she was programmed to go there.
Edd: Let me ask you this, the conspiracy that you describe is so elaborate that the relatives are involved,
the therapists are involved, the friends were involved, hit man from out of town were involved. Did it
ever occur to you, that if it is, this is elaborate and on so many levels, do you find that odd that you
would run into Clyde Lewis in a restaurant and the two of you would just suddenly start talking about
this?
John: I talked to a lot of people. I guess it's no more odd than me finding you or anybody else. I was
there on my own free will and he was there talking to one of his friends for breakfast. According to him,
he goes there all the time and I certainly go there all the time. I think I've talked to about 20,000 people
about this case and so he was just one of many. I mean, it's no more different than after I found out. I
went to go see David Eike to him and hundreds of other people, but is it odd that he was there and he
told me she was under my control? No, not really. He was there often. And in fact, I saw him randomly
there two or three other times after that, after we had met where we had zero contact, but he was
actually there just eating and so was I, so that part is not overly random.
Edd: Okay. I don't want to make anybody to think I'm making accusations against Clyde Lewis. I've been
a guest on his show a couple of times. We get along great. We got along fine.
John: Yeah, no problem. It’s a good question. That's a great question
Edd: Also too, like all these people who listen to the tape, the tape hasn’t been authenticated. Like
they've just listened, basically they’re trusting you?
John: Yeah. That's fine, and I think it's important to note that, and I don't have a problem with that at all.
I think that in itself should be something people should look at. What I would say is this, I don't see
anybody except me coming forward and telling the truth at all. And what I mean is you don't see the
therapist, Jonathan Weedman saying, wait a minute here. Yes, Tiffany was my client, yes, I saw her four
days before she was dead. Yes, she talked about that she was going to die and yes, I told her that she
could become a target and she could get shot at if she tells me who she is and out of all ways to die, she
was shot four days after. So Jonathan Weedman can raise his hand at any time and I'm more than happy
to come on your show with anybody that wants to, anybody in her family, any therapist, any police, any
DA, any judge, anybody that would like to debate any question or ask me anything about the murder.
My answers or my facts speak for themselves, I’m telling you, I have a recording with Jonathan
Weedman that was four days before Tiffany was dead, where Tiffany's crying for help saying she's going
to die. And in those recordings he's not coming forward to tell his side of the story. If he would like to
debate this, if the therapist would like to come on your show, I would be absolutely welcoming him
with open arms because I have about a hundred more questions that I would like to ask him. Like, why
didn't you come forward after she died to tell the police that she was actually knowing she was going to
die? I mean, that's odd, right?
Edd: Yes. I would invite all these people to come on the show too as well. Anybody who wants to do
another version of these and defend themselves or give their own perspective on this case.
John: Sure Edd because this is all about Tiffany, this isn't about John. So here's the point, now I'm willing
to say I will debate them or ask them simple questions. If you were the therapist, here's the first thing I
would ask you-Edd: No wait, let’s move on from there for a second. What is your motive for doing all these shows?
Like what do you think you're going to accomplish with this?
John: Well, I want the public to understand that Tiffany Jenks did not die how they're trying to claim,
that the police are lying and that Tiffany's killers got out of jail with a 13 months sentence and a $200
fine, and that's not okay. I think also in addition to that, that once America gets that mind controls is
real, who actually sent her then to die, that's the bigger question that's really going to come forward
eventually.
Edd: The actual shooter himself, he actually got 18 years, right?
John: The shooter was set up in this case. He said he was set up, they told him, the co- killers, which is
Josh and Michelle said, you either shoot her or we shoot you, but yes he did and I think it comes out to
about 13 by the time he's done. But yes, I read that 18.
Edd: Since you've gone public with this have you seen any positive results from it? Do you think you're
accomplishing what you set out to?
John: Yes, 100%. I've had hundreds of people contact me to tell me that they too have been victims of
mind control. I mean, I've even had one guy that says he dated Tiffany in 2005 and he totally believed
me 100%, he believes the same story that Tiffany indeed was a mind control victim. I've had people that
knew her treatment that said she was afraid of her family. I mean, I've had lots of people reach out to
me that I have inside information about not only the murder, but about mind control. Do I think that
Tiffany is a victim of mind control? 100%, and the reason why is, I have a big long list, am I actually
helping Tiffany's case? Yes, because it's all based on corruption and the idea that the police are lying and
that needs to be told. To this day, it hasn't been and that's why her two co- killers are out of jail already.
Edd: And you think the motive for this was because she worked at this Dam, what was it called again?
John: The motive was she was becoming clear that she was a mind control victim. And that's truthfully
why she's dead now because you have Patsy's or you have people under mind control that actually
carried out the murder. All the lower class people that actually carried out the crime are taking the fall
for Tiffany's murder. How could it be that the killer had $7,000 in cash on him when he was arrested?
How can it be that they took off the serial numbers that day before they sold him the gun on a
promissory note and here Tiffany-- they claimed that they didn't even know Tiffany at all, when I have
proof they did. And here's the thing, why am I the only one that has these recordings of Joshua Robinett
saying that he's going to go buy a gun and nobody else in this case cares about those recordings that I
gained from Tiffany's phone.
Edd Opperman: Now those are audio recordings?
John Captain: Correct.
Edd Opperman: How would we confirm that it's Joshua’s?
John: Well, the simplest way would be for anybody to get a copy of the deposition, audio recordings of
the police, and then comparing his voice to his voice. However, I will tell you that Tiffany's hairdresser
named Jonathan already confirmed to me, it was Joshua Robinette in the recording. I already had
confirmation to that. In addition to that, in the recordings, he talks about how Andy a guy named Andy is
the one who gave him his cell phone. When I did a reverse check based on an investigator that I hired,
they reverse engineered or reverse checked his cell number, which Tiffany had in his phone of Joshua.
That number was reversed and it belongs to Andy, that's Tiffany's friend. So, there was never a question
in my mind whether it was Josh who killed her, I was just wondering why nobody else cared but me.
Edd: Okay, you clarified that for me now that when you did the reverse lookup on the cell phone
number, looking for Josh, he came up with Andy, but how is that a match then?
John: Well, because actually what I didn't tell you what was in the recording, Tiffany says to him how he
got his cell phone and he says it's Andy's phone.
Edd: I got you.
John: So in the phone that Tiffany owned, which she had a mind, she had saved the number, Josher is
what she called him, J- O- S- H- E-R, and his cell number and it was in her phone. Also, I want to point
out that in the recording that she made with Josh, she introduces Josh to Tony, which Tony is where she
lived. And so there was the connection there where Tony and Josh had met and yet Tiffany was the one
that recorded them and said, they talked or whenever. But I have those recordings and, and it's real
simple. If anybody didn't think it was Josh, well that would be really simple. All they'd have to do is just
go ahead and get a recording of Josh off the police. However, they're not giving the recordings of the
testimony that he gave, I don't know if you noticed, you probably didn't. They never said one word in
court, not even, sorry, not a word. Not even sorry.
Edd: The defendants?
John: Correct, because they know I have a recording of them.
Edd: Let's see. Now with all these even if she did know Josh-John: That would make it premeditated.
Edd: Right, but it could still be, and then your theory is that the motive is this elaborate mind control
theory involving Dams and RJ Reynolds and stuff. But the thing is, have you explored the idea that it was
just like a drug deal? Maybe she was a witness to something?
John: Well, I think the other people that are involved in this would love to go by that theory, but putting
all that aside, all that really matters in step one of the investigation is, did she know Josh? That's all that
matters because now you're talking about 25 years versus 13 months
Edd: Correct.
John: And a premeditated murder. If the shooters were paid to kill Tiffany, who paid them? That's my
request.
Edd: Right, and today's show is titled Tiffany Jenks mind control theory. Your theory is that it has, it's
involves this elaborate mind control?
John: Correct.
Edd: ight. So then how do you come to that? Have you explored the drug theory or the blackmail
theory?
John: None of that would even matter. Because if they were premeditatedly paid to kill her, which was a
shooter, had 7,000 cash on him when he was arrested. So none of that would play out if she was the
most horrible person in the world, none of that would matter because somebody paid them to kill her.
Edd: You're right, let's say I'm using Tiffany as a mule to run drugs back and forth from Pendleton to
Portland, and she's holding my stuff. I hire the guys from Oakland, I take Russell Clark there.
John: Who hired the guys from Oakland? That's the question?
Edd: Me. I hired him because she took my drugs.
John: So now we need to find out who you are?
Edd: Right? I'm not sure, but, the thing is though is best a possible theory. It also could be like a
blackmail, sex blackmail kind of thing. That stuff goes on. These things go on
John: According to the police, she met them randomly and then in 19 minutes later she was dead.
Edd: But we're at the point now in part two of the show where we agree that's pinky as hell. Then for
these guys to show up and get a motel and they got the face guns, they bring a guy from Oakland, that’s
hanky as hell. There was something, there's another motive for this murder. Now it's even mind control,
which is now the focus of this show. How do we come to that conclusion or these other possibilities
which are much more likely, have you explored these little possibilities?
John: I don't see them as much more likely because what you're really saying is, is that okay, so Tiffany is
at the bar and she tells the bartender her life is over, so she just walks outside to die.
Edd: Yes, because she was suicidal. You said in the last show she attempted suicide multiple times?
John: No, I said before I met her, the 12 months prior, that she had made many attempts of suicide, but
all of that doesn't play out because she left my house telling me that they were going to kill her and that
she was going to die at night. She then went to the bar, told the bartender her life was over. Now if they
want to say they killed her for a suicide then, we will know the truth once we get to the bottom of it, no
matter what, whether they were paid by a drug, key Lord or something like that, none of that has been
explored. The issue at hand is did Tiffany go there under mind control? Yes she did because no other
logical person would have gone there to die.
Ed: But a suicidal person would.
John: A suicidal person would, but she was crying. They're going to me, I'm not going to die tonight. I'm
not going to die. I'm not going to die tonight.
Ed: Now before you met-- and I don't want to upset you. I know this is very real.
John: It's okay. No problem.
Ed: And it’s late for you, so I know that too. And I know this is raw and I get these clients call me like this.
They lost a loved one, and they are convinced that there's, you know what I mean?
John: Yeah.
John: That’s a possibility that we have to examine now. Well, I got an email from Tiffany that says John,
Tony, Tyson, they want us to die and that’s sad. So she said, in this stage, she's telling you in advance,
it's like less than a week or 10 days before she was dead, that Tony and Tyson are going to kill us. And
that's sad. This is not somebody, and believe me [inaudible] a call her family, they even showed a video,
a picture of her in Pendleton, all happy, happy, happy. In fact, her sister in the court record says, this is
really funny. Tiffany was happy about life and the role she would play in her future. That's weird.
Edd: Let me ask you this, before you met Clyde and Fritz, because you had no idea about any of this
mind control before that and that was 2014 right?
John: Correct.
Edd: So the murder happened in 2012, am I correct?
John: 2013 so it was about eight month period.
Edd: In that eight month period. Did you explore these other theories of blackmail, drug dealer?
John: Every single possible thing. And in fact, I was in constant contact prior to that with her mother.
Once I had found out that they were lying, that's when everything flipped for them as well. I have the
emails and they're all weird too, by the way. The email correspondence back and forth between me and
her mother, two months after Tiffany was dead, her mom was like, well, John, we're not going to let this
murder consume us. And I'm like, that's weird because at this point, we don't even really have the full
story, but there was clearly a cover-up all along from the second she was murdered. I was investigating
the murder, not one thing the police told was true. Not one thing, including the motive. What would
possibly be the motive for that guy to come from California, shoot Tiffany and leave the following
morning?
Edd: Now these emails between the mother and the emails between Tiffany and you back and forth, is
there an unedited exchange available to the public to look at?
John: No. It's all personal stuff. I'd never shared it online yet.
Edd: You see my concern about me and I like you John. I do, and I think you're sincere. One question I
have for you before I get to that is, what is the purpose you being in China?
John: Well, I just don't feel comfortable being in Portland because cops are lying, if they're going to lie
about murder.
Edd: Yeah. And I hear you, man, I hear you. And your business in Portland, that was this spa, there's
some people say online, that it was a spa that was used for prostitution. What's the story behind that?
John: Well, if I was involved in a murder, I would say lots of things about people that stood up for
Tiffany. But let's just say this. Let's say I'm a murderer. I'm in a cell, and this guy next to me, now I've
killed somebody, I'm a murderer and you're the guy next to me and I confide in you that I have facts to a
murder. Even I would still be a hero for telling the truth about a murder, if I'm the one confiding in you
about a murder or rather if you were the one that told the public. Even though both of us could be
killers as long as one of us tells the truth. Now I had my business in Portland for 23 years. I spent a
million dollars building this business and do I cater to prostitutes after 23 years in Portland? Now
Portland's a very strict city, that's absurd. Now I get the idea that they want to make me the bad guy and
they will. And then you ask why it is that I want to do lots of shows to tell the truth about Tiffany's
murder because Tiffany's dead and not one single person's telling the truth or murder. Not one.
Ed: The reason why I asked that is not to offend you.
John: I know I don't mind.
Ed: Because you know she was at a strip club, was she a sex worker?
John: Hell no. That's ridiculous.
Ed: What did you believe the motive was is that she was coming out of her programming and that's why
they had to kill her?
John: Yes, I believe that a hundred percent. Here's another thing that I point out, here's an email. I'll just
read it to you exactly what it is. This is 12/10 of 2013 from Tiffany's, mother “John, how can we ever
thank you enough for helping with this? I will call the detectives tomorrow and ask the time the Cadillac
got to the bar and left. I also want to tell you about the lady who says TIFF knew the older couple with
the last name of Sergeant, the girl's last name was Sergeant. Do you want me to tell them about the guy
who supposedly saw her before the police got there and that she had an ATM card in her hand? Write
down the questions that will help, okay”. That's from Tiffany's mother.
Yeah. See here, “I know you hate to take medications, but an antidepressant might help you and do you
some good, maybe get you some when you get back from Thailand, it doesn't settle you, but it helps you
see things brighter. It doesn't suddenly change you, but more how you respond to life. I think all my kids
have tried them and people who tell me this is working the best are the spouses. Just a thought”. I mean
this is all, December 12th.
Edd: I had a spouse who want to put me on antidepressants. If I want to put the pills in my ears to
drown out her nagging, they would've worked better.
John: Yeah, totally. I want to read for you, and these are word for word. This is December 15th okay,
from Tiffany's mother. Now mind you, she died October 8th, so you're talking about, hardly, just a few
months, not even two months. “Hi John, your last email to me was a tear jerker, I'm glad you were able
to provide Tiffany with some stability in her last year of her life. You know, she loved you and that's all
you need to know. Who cares what others think. I was unable to get through to the detectives today, so
I'll try again tomorrow. The time in our life when we make the greatest changes and move forward are
the times of tragedy and grief. It opens her soul and it's not a bad thing John. You'll eventually be able to
see some goodness. We are glad that she didn't go missing in Europe and we would never know what
happened to her. There's so many families with no bodies and they live in anticipation every day.
Tiff had a great life, just troubled with her addiction. I really think she had some wiring problems in her
brain that was probably hereditary. I know she wanted to live, but came close to death so many times. I
think she felt she could outwit death and continue to take chances even when warned, she has so much
trauma over the years. Hit on the head, raped, abducted. I could go on and on. Of course, all of this was
why drinking, she wished she drunk. When you first met her question Mark. I can tell you that my
husband told her that he was done before he died. He was done rescuing her and enabling her. Of
course, when he died, she fell apart. And then I felt the need to help her again every time it seems she
wanted to make this time the last. I'm glad for her that her struggle is over, maybe God just saw she
couldn't overcome and let and let her come to heaven early. I will miss her and that's from her mom.
Ed: But let me ask you this, because people grieve differently, people grieve differently. You have a very
savvy life. You know what I mean? You've lived the life, you've experienced a lot of things in your life.
You remind me a lot of myself too, when you talk about how the gas station around the corner, they
know you. You know what I mean? Like I'm the same way, but people grieve differently, you know?
John: Well I don't have a problem with people grieving differently. What I have a problem with is they're
flat out lying about her murder. There's no question the killers knew her, the killer Josh knew her father.
That's all that matters.
Edd: Wait, wait, they knew her father?
John: Yeah. It says in the recording that that's why he liked my dad. Remember what he said the night
you met him.
Edd: But again, the era. But again, that's with you. We're just going by voices. We haven't verified it's
the same Josh.
John: Well, I would be more than happy to listen to the police tapes with Josh being interrogated, but
they're not giving me those.
Ed: I understand that. But until then, it's a hunch that it's the same Josh.
John: He knew him. That's what Jonathan, the hairdresser says that she knew Josh the shooter. He also
told me that Tiffany had received an email about dying. Let me see if I have that clip.
Edd: But again, even if Jonathan leaves hairdresser and she didn't know Josh but again, that doesn't
verify that it's Josh.
John: Jonathan said he knew Josh and that was Josh.
Edd: John we went out of time, and I think we've covered a lot and it's been a whole hour. So it's three
hours total now. What do you want to leave us with? I don't want to leave you upset.
John: It's not that, I get the idea that the family has a goal and that is to demonize me and make claims.
I'm okay with that, because bottom line is, is that my words speak for themselves. Tiffany Jenks murder
is not solved and I think that the general public looks at it and they go, so what you're trying to say, she
just randomly went to that bar and got shot 19 minutes later. Yeah. Okay. So I mean that's the key to it.
Edd: And I said he right there. I agree with you a hundred percent that there's something hinky about
the shooting. There's no doubt about that. There's no way these guys show up inside with a face gun
and just accidentally, unless it was like a thrill kill type of situation.
John: Well no, but wait, what about my business?
Ed: What about it?
John: Yeah. What about it? Let's talk about that. I mean, heck, that's just ridiculous. John Captain owns a
business. Let's not talk about the killers at all. That's the funny part of this, right? If you look at all the
claims that are made by her family, not one single word is ever told about Tiffany's murder or the facts
to the murder. None, but John Captain is a bad guy.
Edd: Well John, even if the allegations were true that you own an establishment that was used by
prostitutes, even if that is a hundred percent true, it doesn't make you a bad guy, but it's illegal business,
people have those kinds of- people own massage bars. People own these different kinds of bath, public
bath in the old days of the gay bathhouses in New York. People know strip clubs. I just had a guy who
owned a strip couple last week that doesn't make you a murderer, doesn't make you a bad guy. But it
would be if there's a sex industry pattern throughout this. That's something that could even confirm the
mind control theory because people in involved the mind control often get involved in the sex industry.
I've had other guests on here too, sexual molestation and sexual abuse is a pattern in that as well. So I
hope I didn't offend you with one question.
John: Well no, I see it all the time online with her family, but they also will not talk about why it is that
the killers got away with murder because that's the key to this.
Edd: Well, did you ever think maybe that the blackmail or the drug dealing or whatever this other
possibility besides the mind control that they could be involved in that and that's why they covered.
John: Whatever. Let's go with that then, but we still have to get to the bottom of the murder.
Edd: Yeah. I couldn't agree with you more. The murder itself is suspicious as hell.
John: That's all that matters. That's what I'm working on. I'm not working on whether, heck was it Bill
Clinton that got a blow job from Monica Lewinsky and he was the president. So, the focus of John and
his hot tub place is a nice spin. However, it still comes back to Tiffany Jenks got shot in the head after 19
minutes of meeting these people, and the claim is made that they don't know her, but they do and I
have proof that they do.
Edd: What do you want to leave us with?
John: Well, people can check out Facebook @Tiffany Jenk’s murder or, and, John S. Captain or go to
Google and just Google Tiffany Jenks
Edd: Okay. John, thank you so much. If something new comes up, you want to present to me be more
than happy to give you more time, okay?
John: Okay, sir. Thank you for your help.
Edd: Bye.