1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems | A Field Perspective on Engineering A Field Perspective on Engineering Engineering lessons from the field The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems Posted on November 4, 2007 Recently, I was out in the field scoping out an existing facility for retrocommissioning opportunities. One of the operating engineers pointed out that the differential pressure sensor controlling the chilled water distribution pumps was located so that it sensed the pressure across the mains leaving the plant. He had heard that you could save energy by locating the sensor two thirds of the way between the pumps and the most remote load, so he thought that relocating the sensor might represent an opportunity. But, he wasn’t exactly sure why. For one thing, what did “two thirds of the way to the most remote load” really mean; physical distance or feet of pipe or something else? He also was wondering why “two thirds” instead of “three quarters” or “seven eights” or “fifteen sixteenths”? Finally, he was curious about exactly how the point where the sensor measured pressure impacted the energy consumption of the system. He knew that both the pressure and flow a pump produced impacted the power it required, all as stated by the equation for pump power. But he wasn’t sure how the relationships applied in a working system. Finally, he wondered if there were other things to consider. For instance, if the sensor was located at remote point in the system, what would happen if someone isolated that portion of the system for service? And from a practical standpoint, it seemed like it would be a lot harder to remember the location of a sensor at some remote point in a 500,000 square foot facility versus a location that was in the immediate vicinity of the pumps it served. https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems/ 1/9 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems | A Field Perspective on Engineering These are all good questions and come up a lot in the field when I start talking about using a remote pressure sensor to optimize the energy consumption of a variable flow system, be it an air system or a water system like we are discussing here. So, I thought the subject might make good fodder for a few blog posts. As a starting point, lets consider a simple system like the one illustrated in the system diagram below. Our discussion will focus on the distribution piping network served by Pump P1; i.e. the flow path from A through B, C, D, E, F, and back to A. For the purposes of our discussion, I’ve made a few simplifying assumptions. The reference pressure is the pressure established by the expansion tank at the suction of pump P1 and is assumed to be 15 psi (6.5 ft.w.c.). The loads served by the system are identical; specifically at full load, both AHU1 and AHU2 require 400 gpm and a differential pressure of 20 ft.w.c. at the point where they connect. The pumps, piping network, and air handling units are all at about the same elevation; thus the effects of elevation on the pressure readings can be ignored. Piping lengths will be discussed in terms of equivalent feet. In other words, when I say that the distance from point A to point B is 200 equivalent feet of pipe, I’m saying that if I were to convert the resistance due to flow of all of the fittings between point A and B to an equivalent length of straight pipe, and add it to the actual length of straight pipe, it would be the same as 200 feet of straight pipe with no fittings in it. If there were no fittings, then the distance would literally be 200 feet, but as the number of fittings increased, the physical distance associated with 200 equivalent feet of straight pipe would be reduced. One of the key concepts that you need to understand with regard to this topic is that the pressure required to move water through a system is a function of the flow in the system. This means that if the control valves on AHU1 and 2 are both closed, the pressure reading at the discharge of pump P1 would be identical to the reading at the tee where the supply piping splits to serve the two AHUs, even though the tee is three hundred equivalent feet away from the pump. (Remember, we have assumed that both points are at the same elevation, so the impact of elevation on pressure can be ignored). https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems/ 2/9 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems | A Field Perspective on Engineering If the control valves in the air handling units start to open, the pressure at the tee will start to drop relative to the pressure at the pump. The magnitude of the drop will be a function of the flow rate. Common wisdom is that this relationship is a “square law”. In other words, if you reduce the flow by 50%, the pressure drop associated with the flow drops to 25% of what it was (50% of 50%), assuming nothing changed in the system (no valves changed position, the piping was not modified, etc.). Research has shown that for most real piping systems the exponent is more like 1.89 versus 2, but out in the field, we probably couldn’t measure the difference as illustrated by the following graph. So for our purposes, we can still think of it as the “square law” instead of the “one point eight nine law”. Now, lets look at the pressures required by our system in two different operating modes. In the first operating mode, the system is at full load. Both AHUs are using 400 gpm and the pump needs to deliver 20 ft.w.c. at the tee serving the AHUs while moving 800 gpm through the mains to and from the air handling units. The total length of the piping circuit is 600 equivalent feet; 300 equivalent feet from the pump discharge to the tee that serve the units and 300 equivalent feet back to the pump suction. In the second operating mode, one AHU has shut down but the other is still operating at full load. This means that the pump still needs to deliver 20 ft.w.c. at the tee serving the unit, but only needs to move 400 gpm through the piping network. The two operating modes are compared in the following table. https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems/ 3/9 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems | A Field Perspective on Engineering Note that the friction rate for the second mode is significantly different from that associated with the first mode. In the next post, we will look at the results in more detail. David Sellers Senior Engineer – Facility Dynamics Engineering Share this: Twitter Facebook Like Be the first to like this. Related The "two-thirds" Rule; Some Bottom Lines With 7 comments The "two-thirds" Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems - Part 3 Retrocommissioning Findings: Make Up Air Handling System Simultaneous Heating and Cooling – Data Logging and Testing In "Data Logging" This entry was posted in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink. 8 Responses to The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems nadim chabab says: February 25, 2013 at 12:59 am Further your above valuable notes, please note that in our application 2 way constant flow pressure independent control valves are installed. I beleive the theory of two-third still applicable. but I would like to conifrm what do we mean by two third. If for example the pump pressure head is 3Bar, then the two third is 2 Bar, So the sensor should be installed in a location in the longet run where the Differentail pressure is 2 Bar when the system is operating at full load??? Reply David Sellers says: February 27, 2013 at 11:34 am Hi Nadim, https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems/ 4/9 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems | A Field Perspective on Engineering I would agree with you that even though you have pressure independent control valves installed, the two-thirds rule concept will likley be worthy application. To be clear, the “two-thirds” in the two-thirds rule is a general reference to distance, not pressure. What it really is trying to say is that you should put the sensor as far out in the system as possible. In a perfect world, we would figure out which run has the highest pressure drop and then put the sensor at the end of it, as close to the load as possible. And in a simple system like the one in my example, you would likely do just that. Meaning you would install the sensor to pick up the pressures at C and D in the diagram. But few systems are that simple, and all systems are dynamic. So, its not out of the question that in a complex system, under some load conditions the critical branch (the one with the most pressure drop) might move around some due to the dynamics of the system. Or, someone might make a change to the system (add a load, change the setting on balancing device, etc.) that would impact which branch was the critical branch. So, to provide some measure of protection from problems like that, the two thirds rule is in effect, saying “don’t put the sensor all the way at the end of the critical branch; rather locate two thirds of the way there so you have a safety margin if something changes”. Two-thirds is an arbitrary number; a while back, I was talking with Chuck Dorgan about it (sort of the grandfather of the commissioning industry in a way) and he said that ASHRAE had done some research and nobody really knew where it came from, but it probalby came from a control vendor engineering bulletin. So bottom line, the rule could have been the “one-half” or the “five-eights” or the “three-quarters” or the “fifteensixteenths” rule, dependiung on how much safety margin you wanted. The idea is to put the sensor as far out the pipe as possible so that the pressure you control at reflects the square law pressure drop due to flow that occurs and minimizes the pumping energy you need use to deliver flow to your loads. In a working system, frequently the best way to find this point is via some field testing. Specifically measure pressures around the system at points where you can gain access (vents and drains are good opportunities for this). Do this under a number of different operationg conditions and compare what you measure to what you think you need at that point to deliver design flow. Most of the time, a pattern will emerge that will lead you to both the appropriate location for your sensor and also the ideal set point to maintain. Hopefully this clarifies things and answers your question, but if not, don’t be afraid to ask additional questions. Best, David Reply Rajulukose says: February 5, 2014 at 3:31 am Respected sir,3 floor bldg pump room roof 3rd floor bldg length 80mtr 50mtr width with 4nos riser how to calculate diffrencial sencr for chilled water system.Raju.hvac supervisor .Bahrain Reply David Sellers says: February 7, 2014 at 11:47 am Hi Raju, https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems/ 5/9 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems | A Field Perspective on Engineering Its been a busy week so not much time to devote to the blog lately. If I am understanding you correctly, you are trying to figure out the correct set point and location for a differential pressure sensor in an existing chilled water system. If that is the case, then the fast answer is that instead of doing a calculation, you can do a few tests and take a few readings and let the building tell you the answer. Specifically, you would start the process by going around and taking differential pressure measurements at the various loads on a day when the system has a pretty good load on it (i.e. control valves are allowing a lot of flow). Even if there are not gauge ports in the piping, usually, at least in the States, you can find a point to connect a gauge, often in the form of a vent or drain connection. When you take the reading, it would be good to note the position of the control valve if you can and also the pressure being produce back at the pumps if possible. The latter can often be handled automatically by running a trend or using a data logger. Once you have done that, when you compare the readings, you will probably see a pattern that points to the critical load or loads. One of those loads is the probably the location for the sensor. If it is a complex system, them maybe you put 2-3 sensors in at various points and let the control system pick the worst case. In terms of the proper set point to maintain at those locations, the exact number will depend a bit on what is in the pipe between the two points where you measured pressure. Say for instance you picked up the high pressure at an air vent ahead of the control valve serving the coil and the low pressure at the drain on the leaving side of the coil. That would mean that the pressure drop was generally composed of the control valve, the pipe in the circuit between those two points, and the coil pressure drop. Typically, the pressure drop in the piping is fairly insignificant in the context of the coil and the control valve. So, you could get in the ball-park for the right number by looking up the coil and control valve performance data in the submittal drawings and then adding a little bit more to that value to come up with your set point. So in terms of the example above, you might look up the coil submittal or call the coil manufacturer and discover that at design flow the coil pressure drop was 12 ft.w.c. (about 35 kPa I think; not sure what your units system is). And, if you looked up the valve, you might discover that it had a flow coefficient that resulted in a wide open pressure drop of 10 ft.w.c. (about 30 kPa if my little unit conversion program is doing its thing correctly). (If you need to know how to use a valve flow coefficient to calculate the valve pressure drop from the flow, the MCC Powers valve sizing bulletin I link to from the resources on the blog or the Honeywell Gray Manual I link to in one of the posts has that information in it). So, based on your research, you now know that you need at least 12 plus 10 or 22 ft.w.c. (66 kPa) of differential pressure at the points where you measured it to deliver design flow to that particular load. If you add 1-2 feet to that to cover the pipe and fittings in the circuit between your two measurement points, you probably have a pretty good set point to start with. Once you have the necessary sensors and control logic in place, you can use trend data to help you fine tune the set point. Say for instance on a hot day, you discover that you are not quite holding the required supply temperature from the coil, even though the valve is wide open and that back at the central plant, you still had reserve pumping capacity available (meaning the pumps had not been driven to full speed). In that case, I might increase the set point by 1-2 ft.w.c. (3-6 kPa) and keep watching what happened until I found something that worked on that design day. In contrast, if you noticed that the control valve to the load was always throttling a little bit, even on a heavy load, then you might conclude that you could drop the set point 1-2 ft.w.c.. The point is you can use the building operational data to fine tune the system. So far, I have discussed this as if you were trying to figure it out for an existing system. But the reality is you can use a similar technique for new system and then fine tune it via the commissioning process once it comes on line. The only part of the technique that is different for new construction is that you either have to make an educated guess regarding where the critical load(s) are or do the hydraulic calculations. Typically, unless a load has a very https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems/ 6/9 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems | A Field Perspective on Engineering high pressure drop relative to the others, the critical loads will be the ones with the longest piping runs. So, you often can decide where to locate the sensor with a bit of engineering judgment, especially if you provide a couple of them at different locations. I need to head off and do something else at this point, but hopefully this gives you enough to go on. Thanks for visiting and supporting the blog and for asking a good question. Best David Reply sureshbob says: August 1, 2016 at 3:51 am HI This is Suresh, I have one AHU which is having the two branches duct in different length. Now where I have to install the pressure sensor to drive the VFD. Note : In all Duct have the VAV’s and 1st Branch length is 30 meters 2nd Branch is having 15 meters. Reply David Sellers says: August 16, 2016 at 3:56 pm Hi Suresh, Sorry for the slow reply; I have been pretty overwhelmed with stuff the past few months and have not even had a chance to post anything. As you probably suspect, the concept regarding where you would locate the sensor for an air handling system are identical to the ones I discuss for a pumping system in the post you are replying too. To find the exact, right location, you would have to do a lot of math of course. But generally speaking: 1. I would pick a point in the longer duct because that is more likely to be the duct run that set the fan system static. So you might select 2/3 of the physical distance down that duct. Once the sensor is installed, you could fine tune the set point there as necessary to ensure that you had adequate pressure everywhere else. Ideally, there would be one terminal unit that was nearly wide open someplace in the system. 2. You might consider installing a sensor in both duct branches about 2/3 of the physical distance down the duct and then using the software to select the sensor that required the highest fan speed to meet set point. 3. Either way, in an air handling system, unless it is a small system or a system, I actually prefer to control for the pressure at the discharge of the fan and then reset that set point based on what is going on at the remote location. The reason I do that is that if you try to simply control the system based on the remote sensor, you may find that there is a significant lag between when the fan speed changes and when the at the remote location sees the change and reacts to it. That is because to pressurize the duct, the fan has to move enough air through it and the holes in it (which we call diffusers) to set up a new pressure gradient and that can take some time. In some ways, the fan is trying to inflate a really leaky balloon, so the volume of air it has to add to change the pressure is related to much more than just the volume of the duct. I discovered this the hard way by blowing up a duct and then realizing what David St. Clair meant when he said in his book about loop tuning that “it is all about the lags”. (Here is a link to a blog post that hooks you up with the book if you want https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/resources-forhttps://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems/ 7/9 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems | A Field Perspective on Engineering understanding-pid-control/). So, a loop running based on a signal picked up right at the fan discharge is fairly immune to the transportation delay issue (along with a couple of other things). And using the remote sensor to optimize its set point kind of lets you have the best of both worlds. Hope this is helpful and again, sorry for taking so long to respond. David Reply eyad says: June 17, 2017 at 6:12 am dear Sir, what do you mean by two-third distance ? should i calculate the whole distance from pump discharge to the furthest point of networks then to put sensor on 2/3 of it ? or to calculate load as tonnage then to take 2/3 of it ? please could you clarify by example thank you for patience . Reply David Sellers says: July 2, 2017 at 11:34 am Hi Eyad, Sorry for the delayed response; things have been busy for me and I am behind on responding to comments. The short answer to your question is that the two thirds rule is a distance based rule vs. a tonnage based rule. So that means you would want to locate the sensor at the point that was two thirds of the way to the hydraulically most remote load. But, like most engineering decisions in something as dynamics as a building, that is not as easy to figure out as it sounds. The further out the system that you go, the more energy you will save. But, if it turned out that you had not picked the hydraulically most remote load after all, or it moved due to system dynamics or changes in the use profile of the facility then if you were way out at the end of the system, the set point you maintained there may not be the one you needed. So, the two thirds rule is a sort of compromise targeted at maximizing the saving you achieve while minimizing the risk you are taking in terms of the location and set point you pick and the system dynamics that can cause that to not always be the right place or number. If you really were going for the most optimized sensor location, then you would identify the load on the system that required the most pressure from the pump serving the system to deliver its design flow rate; i.e. the load that was used to establish the design pump head. This load if often termed the most “hydraulically remote” load. Usually, but not always, the hydraulically most remote load will be the load with the most feet of pipe between it and the pump and we frequently assume this is the case when we do our pump head calculations. But for large, complex variable flow systems, figuring out exactly which load is the hydraulically most remote load can be a complex undertaking. In addition, as a result of system dynamics, the hydraulically most remote load can move around. https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems/ 8/9 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems | A Field Perspective on Engineering For instance, if the load that is determined to be the hydraulically most remote load on the design day at the design hour with all loads in operation is off line and there is not flow to it, then it is no longer the hydraulically most remote load. The critical load will shift to a different load that is in operation and requires the most pump head to deliver its required flow rate to it at the current operating condition. In a general sense, what the two-thirds rule is saying is that the further out the system you put the sensor controlling the speed of the distribution pump, the more energy you will save. That is because when the sensor is at the end of the system it “sees” the pressure drop due to flow that is required by the current operating condition and automatically drives the pump to deliver that much pressure in addition to the pressure it is trying to maintain at its installed location. Since pressure drop due to flow varies as the square of the flow, you can capture the bulk of the benefit associated with using a remote sensor. You can see this in the table that is provided at the end of the third post in the series. Notice how locating the sensor at the two thirds point captures 77% of the possible savings compared to a base case, which is a pump selected for best efficiency operating at the reduced flow condition associated with the system at 50% load. So, as I indicate in the last post in the series, the two thirds rule could have been the three quarters rule or the fifteen sixteenths rule or the twenty-seven thirty-seconds rule; it’s simply a rule of thumb that tries to simplify a complex engineering decision in a way to captures most of the potential savings by also protects you from putting a sensor at a load that turns out not to be the hydraulically most remote load after all and having to deal with the consequences of that. As an aside, I should mention that Chuck Dorgan actually did a little research project for ASHRAE to try to figure out exactly where the two thirds number came from. It turns out that, to the best he could tell, it came out of a technical application bulletin one of the major control vendors had developed to guide their field technicians and provide a easily remembered number that would save energy but keep things “safe” in terms of ensuring the performance of the system. Hope that helps; thanks for visiting the blog. David Reply A Field Perspective on Engineering Blog at WordPress.com. https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems/ 9/9 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems – Part 2 | A Field Perspective on Engineering A Field Perspective on Engineering Engineering lessons from the field The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems – Part 2 Posted on November 4, 2007 In my previous post, I looked at what happens to differential pressures at different points in this variable flow pumping system as the flow rates drop off. In the example, when one of the AHUs shut down while the other remained in operation at full load, the differential pressure required at the pump dropped by about 40% relative to what was required at full load while the flow dropped by by 50%. In the energy conservation game, our goal is to exploit this potential for reduced power consumption while still meeting the requirements of the load. Let’s revisit the pump power equation. Both head and flow appear in the numerator. Clearly, if we could control the pump in a way that reflected the reduction in both of these operating parameters, we would optimize its energy consumption. Let’s take a minute to think through what would happen in our example on a design day when one of the AHUs shuts down. For the purposes of discussion, I’m going to make a pump selection for our example using Bell and Gossett’s ESP software. Entering our design flow and head (800 gpm at 44.2 ft.w.c.) generates a number of selections. I chose the one with the best efficiency, which comes at a cost premium of approximately 17% relative to the lowest cost option. The 17% price premium buys a 2 % increase in pump efficiency. In economic terms, this may or may not be justified based on the load profile. https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems-part-2/ 1/6 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems – Part 2 | A Field Perspective on Engineering Holistically, one might argue that the price for improved efficiency is justified no matter what the load profile is since the improvement likely represents a reduction in the use of non-renewable energy with a corresponding reduction in emissions. (Of course, I’m from Oregon and grew up in the 60’s, so when I’m not busy hugging trees, I’m probably out trying to save salmon; so you have to take all of that with a grain of salt). If AHU1 shuts down while AHU2 remains in operation at full load, AHU1’s control valve closes. Eliminating one of two parallel paths by closing AHU1’s control valve forces all of P1’sflow through AHU2. Increasing the flow through AHU2requires more head that was being produced by P1 with both units online. As a result, the flow through AHU2 will not double; rather the system will shift towards a new operating point/system curve with a higher pump head than previously existed but at a reduced flow relative to what was provided with both units in operation. Initially, the reduced system flow is still in excess of what AHU2requires at design conditions. As a result, the control valve serving AHU2 will throttle in response to the excess capacity. Ultimately, interactions between the flow supplied by P1and the capacity the flow produces in AHU2 will cause the control valve to throttle the flow through AHU2 to the design value of400 gpm. The figure below illustrates our pump curve along with the design system curve associated with two units in operation and the new system curve associated with AHU2 operating alone at its design capacity. https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems-part-2/ 2/6 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems – Part 2 | A Field Perspective on Engineering Reducing Pump Power by Pushing the Pump Up Its Curve via a Throttling Process Back in “the olden days”, before variable speed drive technology had been perfected and made affordable we often allowed the pumps to be pushed around on their performance curves by two way valves. While crude by today’s standards, this approach was relatively simple and could save some energy as can be seen below. By way of explanation and to provide some perspective, the “olden days is an expression my son Aaron would use when he was younger to preface a question about something in my past. Back in the “olden days”, when I first priced a VFD, it was for a 40 hp motor; the price was about $50,000 and the package as about the size of 2 motor control center sections. https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems-part-2/ 3/6 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems – Part 2 | A Field Perspective on Engineering On the plus side, when the pump was throttled: The brake horsepower required at part load is reduced by about 2 bhp. No special technology is required. The theory of operation is simple and easy to understand. On the minus side: Pushing the pump up its curve moves it away from peak efficiency as can be seen by comparing the two operating points on the pump curve above. The head produced by the pump at part load is significantly above what is required , as illustrated in the calculation below. Specifically, pushing the pump up its curve results in an operating point that produces 400 gpm at about 54 ft.w.c. as can be seen from the pump curve above. But, as can be seen from the calculation with AHU1 off and AHU2 at full load, you only need 26.5 ft.w.c. of head at the pump to deliver 400 gpm to the load and provide 20 ft.w.c. of head at the load. Initially, the extra head drives more than the required flow through the load. This causes the temperature leaving the coil to drop below set point. In turn, the control system closes the valve until the extra head is simply “chewed up” by the control valve and the design 400 gpm flow rate is again achieved through the load. The above design pumping head could lift valve plugs off of their seat if care is not exercised in selecting the actuators. As a result, we may not achieve the desired reduction in flow and associated energy savings. Plugging the desired flow and the head it would take to produce it into the pump power equation reveals that in theory, we should be able to serve the reduced load condition with about 3.3 bhp. https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems-part-2/ 4/6 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems – Part 2 | A Field Perspective on Engineering The bottom line is that while pushing the pump up its curve provided a simple way to reduce pumping capacity and save energy, the potential exists to save even more if: We can find a way to reduce pump flow and pump head at the same time. We can make this shift in operating conditions while preserving the pump’s efficiency. We can control the pump head and flow in a manner that provides exactly what the loads require, no more and no less. Variable speed drives and the 2/3 rule provide a mechanism to achieve these goals. In my next post, we’ll take a look at what happens if we apply this combination of technology and technique to our example. David Sellers Senior Engineer – Facility Dynamics Engineering Share this: Twitter Facebook Like Be the first to like this. Related The "two-thirds" Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems With 8 comments System Diagrams: Order of Connection Matters In "System Diagrams" Parallel Pumps; An Indicator of a Retrocommissioning Opportunity With 3 comments This entry was posted in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink. A Field Perspective on Engineering Blog at WordPress.com. https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems-part-2/ 5/6 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems – Part 3 | A Field Perspective on Engineering A Field Perspective on Engineering Engineering lessons from the field The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems – Part 3 Posted on November 17, 2007 In the past two posts, we have been using this simple variable flow system … … to look at why the 2/3 rule optimizes a pumps performance as the load on the system drops. In the first post, we looked at how the pressure requirements at different points in the system varied as the flow varied. In the 2nd post, we looked at how allowing the load’s control valve to push the pump up its curve saved some energy, but not nearly as much as is possible in theory. In this post, we will look at how the application of a VFD to the pump and the application of the “2/3 rule” to the VFD control algorithm can allow us to approach the theoretical energy savings possible as the system unloads. As a starting point, I made a pump selection for the part load requirement of 400 gpm and 26 ft.w.c. to serve as a baseline. (See table 1 in the 1st post to refresh your memory on where the 26 ft.w.c comes from.) https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/17/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems-part-3/ 1/5 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems – Part 3 | A Field Perspective on Engineering The selection is a slightly different pump from the best efficiency selection we made for our design load of 800 gpm at 44 ft.w.c. The size of the pump is a bit smaller and its provided with an 1,150 rpm motor instead of a 1,750 rpm motor. Obviously, changing the pump every time the load on the system changes is not a practical approach. But, this selection gives us a target to shoot for in our effort to optimize the system in a practical manner. Here is our original pump selection, but instead of showing the performance with different size impellers, this curve shows the performance at different speeds. Here is the more common version of the curve with different size impellers as a frame of reference. https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/17/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems-part-3/ 2/5 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems – Part 3 | A Field Perspective on Engineering If you contrast the two curves, you will notice that you can change the pumps performance by changing the impeller or by changing the speed. But, if you change the impeller size, the efficiency of the pump tends to be reduced as you reduce flow and/or head from the peak efficiency point or “sweet spot”. If you change speeds, you can get the same effect in terms of a reduction in head and/or flow, but you tend to preserve the efficiency. This is one of the advantages offered by a speed change vs. an impeller change. Bear in mind though that if you make the speed change with a variable speed drive, the drive itself has losses. Thus, using the drive purely as a balancing device may not be the best option when compared to an impeller trim if only a modest change in speed is required. Here is the variable speed curve with the system curves for a number of optimization options superimposed on it. https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/17/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems-part-3/ 3/5 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems – Part 3 | A Field Perspective on Engineering Lets see what this tells us about VFDs and the “2/3 rule”. (Note that the white line with red dots highlights our part load design flow rate target.) The red curve is the system curve associated with allowing the control valves at the loads to push the pump up its impeller curve with out changing speed. Note that the flow is reduced, which saved some energy as discussed in the previous post, but the efficiency is also reduced and the head is significantly above what is required. As a result, the control valve(s) must throttle significantly to drive the system to the desired flow rate. The pressure drop across the throttled control valve(s) represents an energy loss in the system (remember, flow and head both appear in the numerator of the pump power equation). It is this loss, coupled with the reduction in pump efficiency that causes this approach to use more energy than a pump specifically selected to deliver design flow to one load with the load’s control valve wide open. The orange curve shows what happens if we add a VFD to the pump and then control the VFD to maintain the design head at the pump discharge. As the control valve starts to throttle and push the pump up its curve, the control system senses the rise in pressure and slows the pump down to about 1,605 rpm. As a result the control valve does not have to throttle as hard as it would have had to if the pump did not have a VFD. This, combined with the improved pump efficiency associated with the operating point at reduced speed makes the VFD more attractive than pushing the pump up its curve on a pure energy savings basis. But the head produced at the load by controlling in this manner will still be significantly above what is required because the control point is based on the head required at the pump to deliver the design flow to the loads and we are only delivering half of the design flow in the scenerio under discussion. The blue curve shows what happens if we move the sensor controlling the VFD from the pump discharge to the magical “2/3 of the way down the system” point. https://av8rdas.wordpress.com/2007/11/17/the-two-thirds-rule-for-locatiing-sensors-to-control-variable-flow-systems-part-3/ 4/5 1/3/2020 The “two-thirds” Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems – Part 3 | A Field Perspective on Engineering The magic is that moving the sensor away from the pump allows the sensor to “see” the pressure drop in the piping circuit between it and the pump location. If we adjust the system to control the pressure at the 2/3 point to the value associated with design flow at that location then, when the flow is reduced (and the head required to move water to that location drops as the square of the reduction in flow) the system responds accordingly and slows the pump down even further than a system with a sensor located at the pump discharge would. The purple curveshows what would happen if we located a sensor right at the point where our load connected to the mains and controlled to maintain the differential pressure to the load at the value required for design flow. This location allows our optimization strategy to approach the savings that would be achieved by a pump selected specifically for the requirements at the reduced load condition. The table below summarizes our discussion. Watch for the next post where I’ll summarize our discussion with a few bottom lines before moving on to a new topic. David Sellers Senior Engineer – Facility Dynamics Engineering Share this: Twitter Facebook Like Be the first to like this. Related The "two-thirds" Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems With 8 comments Variable Frequency Drive System Efficiency Part 1 With 10 comments The "two-thirds" Rule for Locating Sensors to Control Variable Flow Systems - Part 2 This entry was posted in Uncategorized. 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