Socratics versus Sophists on Payment for Teaching Author(s): David L. Blank Source: Classical Antiquity, Vol. 4, No. 1 (Apr., 1985), pp. 1-49 Published by: University of California Press Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/25010822 . Accessed: 19/06/2014 15:52 Your use of the JSTOR archive indicates your acceptance of the Terms & Conditions of Use, available at . http://www.jstor.org/page/info/about/policies/terms.jsp . JSTOR is a not-for-profit service that helps scholars, researchers, and students discover, use, and build upon a wide range of content in a trusted digital archive. We use information technology and tools to increase productivity and facilitate new forms of scholarship. For more information about JSTOR, please contact support@jstor.org. . University of California Press is collaborating with JSTOR to digitize, preserve and extend access to Classical Antiquity. http://www.jstor.org This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions DAVID L. BLANK SocraticsVersus Sophists on Payment for Teaching ATTITUDES OF ancient THE a living and toward making philosophers in particular towardmaking a living by doing, teaching, or demonstrating philoso phy was a matter for discussion through the end of antiquity.1This discussion began when Thales monopolized Miletus' oil-presses in order to show that his wisdom could have value practical to use if he wanted it for such ends. But debate centered on the interpretation of the relationship between the sophists, who took fees for their services, and Socrates, who did not. Indeed, philoso phers and sophists were often distinguished on this basis,2 and the philoso pher's contempt formoney was included in the quotation inwhich Pythagoras is supposed to have introduced the termphilosopher.3 I summarizes Section tion of wealth. These I am grateful "popular" complaints are drawn from comic to Professors M. Frede and A. about poets L. T. Bergren, the sophists' accumula and other sources, both and to Dr. E. for their Farny, friendly advice and encouragement. 1. For a general survey see Clarence A. Forbes, Teachers' Pay inAncient Greece, University of Nebraska Studies in the Humanities vol. 2 (Lincoln, Nebr. 1942), and Gaines Post, Kimon Giocarinis, and Richard Kay," "TheMedieval Heritage of a Humanistic Ideal: 'Scientiadonum Dei est, unde vendi non potest,' Traditio 11 (1955) 195-234. For late antiquity see, e.g., Olympiodo rus on Alcibiades I.119a (140.7 ff. Creuzer = 91 Westerink [= 3T lb: references in this form refer to the Appendix of testimonia printed after the present article]), who asks why Zeno took fees if he was a philosopher and guesses he must have taken from the rich to give to the poor, unless he merely pretended to take themoney or was trying to teach his pupils to despise wealth. 2. Cf., e.g., Xenophon 13.8 Cyn. ff. = 14 T 2, Aristotle Sph. el. 1.1, 165a22 = 13 T 3, Themistius 23.289d = 13 T 15c. 3. D(iogenes) L(aertius) 8.8 = 2 T 1; note also the theme of e.euOEQ(a, which in the discussion in section III below. ? 1985 BY THE REGENTS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions will come up 2 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 contemporary and later, and are meant to be indicative of what was said about sophistic tuition, without regard to the plausibility of each testimony. Section II enumerates the reasons given by Xenophon and Plato as to why theirmaster Socrates did not take a fee for his services. of these Several I think, reasons, have not been adequately distinguished before. The most important rationale given by Xenophon and Plato for Socrates' refusal to take fees, namely, that he would then have to teach whoever wanted to pay, is then (Section III) exam ined in detail, with comments on a recent interpretation of this theme and a new suggestion about its purport. Finally, since the refusal to obligate oneself to teach wants "whoever it" is predicated the desire upon to select one's associates, Section IV discusses the portrayal of Socrates' selection process in Plato's Theaetetus and Aeschines' Alcibiades in an attempt to isolate the posi tive side of Socratic recruitment. Athenians, as everyone knows, complained loud and long about the soph ists. When and a friend knocked Socrates door asking at Callias' to be admitted to speak to the sophists staying there, Callias' slaves would not allow the visitors to enter until they assured the slaves that they themselves were not sophists (Plato Prt. 314d). Some of the most highly publicized complaints the sophists against in the indictment those included that is, Socrates, against (1) honoring strange gods and (2) corrupting the youth.4 There were other charges against sophistic teachings: (3) discoursing about the things up in the the earth,6 airs and beneath (4) teaching people to deceive how and how "to make the weaker argument stronger,"7 (5) making speeches against justice,8 (6) teaching virtue or arete, which needs no teacher but should be acquired given by one's father and his fellow through the good genes and upbringing gentlemen,9 and finally (7) giving lessons which consisted of nothing but, as and (pXkuaia xcal (Pevcx1oaoTc, nonsense that they were not unopposed. understood 15.197), put it (Antid. themselves The sophists quackery.1? Isocrates 2wx Ixig 4. Xenoph. Mem. 1.1.1: a6&bXEcl obivoiov, r oVg vY ? 36XL VOuiEl OEOi;S 6e xacLva &U 6aC 6AlXE1 & aq(ov' Eicte xac Tog; v. The VEovSg 6LCa(Fp0e indictment T?EQ(X is also cited by Favorinus (fr. 51Mensching) apud D.L. 2.40. On the second charge, cf. Eupolis, fr. 337 Kock = Zonar. 548: 6g T6v veavioxov Nub. Aristophanes 5. E.g., ovVCOV bC(pq0o?Ev. 225 ff., 284, and Plutarch Nicias 23 on Protagoras. 6. Aristophanes Nub. 188. 7. 113ff. Ibid., On all these charges, cf. Plato Apol. 18b, 19b-c, where "Socrates" may be quoting Aristophanes. 8. Plato Comicus 9. Cf. W. Nestle, 59. fr. 103 Kock = Eudocia Peisandr., zum Logos2 Vom Mythos 1942) (Stuttgart 255 f.; W. K. C. Guthrie, A History of Greek Philosophy. Vol. 3: The Fifth-CenturyEnlightenment (Cambridge 1969) 39; Plato Meno 92e3-6 and, implicitly, 93-94, Prt. 320a-b. 10. Cf. Socrates' statement that Aristophanes pictured him as jroXXrv qXlcwQiacv qPkaVoCQOVTx (Plato Apol. 19c4); also [Plato] Eryx. 397dl on Prodicus. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching and Protagoras is made by Plato (Prt. 317a-c) 3 to claim that he was the first wise man to come right out and call himself a sophist. But only part of what the Athenians disliked was in the sophists' teachings. The testimonia referring to the fees, wealth, and mode of life of the soph ists are tinged with both envy and disgust. They are extremely difficult to interpret, both in specific and in their general tendency. Reported fees either vary widely or seem standardized.Modern scholars disagree both on the prob able amounts actually taken in by the sophists and on public attitudes toward sophistic practice.11 I will not discuss the accuracy of the testimonia about fees,'2 concentrating instead on attitudes toward the sophists.While we do not know whose opinions (if anyone's) are represented, or with what accuracy they are represented by, e.g., Old Comedy,13 the references adduced below must have been expected to strike a resonant chord with some audience; theweight of their numbers and the lack of opposing voices suggest the depth and breadth of sentiment about the sophists' pecuniary affairs. For one thing, the Athenians seem to have thought that the sophists charged outrageous fees. Reports of such fees include the following: Protago ras (first to charge for his company [synousia]), Gorgias, and the natural phi losopher Zeno are each said to have charged 100 minae for a complete course that was 10,000 days' or 28 /4 years' was a laborer's wage, (if 1 drachma/diem work).l4 Even the low-scale sophists charged a hefty fee. Socrates (PlatoApol. 20a = 13 T 16) chides Callias for finding a cheap sophist for his son's tutoring, 11. On the payments to the craftsmen working on the Erechtheum and at Epidaurus, cf. N. Himmelmann, "Zur Belohnung kiinstlerischer Tatigkeit in klassischen Bauinschriften," JDAI 94 (1979) 127-42. On the cost of living in fourth-centuryAthens, see A. H. M. Jones, Athenian Democracy (Oxford 1957) 135 n.1, where it is noted thatLysias 32.28 figures the annual support of two girls, one boy, a nurse, and amaid at 1000 dr./annum, and thatDemosthenes 27.36 calculates the expenses of himself, his sister, and his mother during his minority at 700 dr./annum (both figures exclusive of rent). For opinion on the wages of sophists specifically, compare, e.g., G. B. Kerferd, The Sophistic Movement (Cambridge 1981) 25: "it is clear that tomany itwas themere fact that they took fees, not the size of the fees, which was objectionable"; ibid. 29: "If Prodicus could really secure half a mina for one lecture from each student attending then the total income if 20 students attended the lecturewould be 10minas, and a course of 10 lecturesmight even produce 100minas" (Kerferd goes on to affirm that this is themost likely accounting);W. Nestle (supra n. 9) 259: "Nur wenige Sophisten hinterliessen ein nennenswertes Vermogen, und ihre Beliebtheit erfuhr durch die Honorierung keinerlei Beeintrachtigung"; ibid. 262: "ihre Gewohnheit, sich ho norieren zu lassen, die ihnen Platon so sehr zum Vorwurf macht, hat ihnen an der allgemeinen Achtung, die sie bei der gebildeten Oberschicht genossen, keinen Abbruch getan." 12. Kerferd (supra n. 11) 26-28 gives a good introduction to sophists' fees. Guthrie, on the other hand, has made only scattered remarks on the subject (supra n.9) 38 with n.2, 42 with n.1, 45, 275. 13. The best general treatment of comedy's view of the sophists is given by Nestle (supran.9) 455-76. An adequate assessment of Old Comedy's evidence about sophistswould have to proceed from an analysis of Old Comedy's own generic requirements and the techniques and topoi of invective to the evaluation of the content and significance of each testimonium. 4 T 3a, b; 5 T 16a, b; 3 T la. The sum of 100 minae seems to be standardized evidence. as a typical fee for a famous any particular sophist, without 14. Cf. sources This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions by the 4 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 while he himself had paid tremendous sums to the greats; this cheap practi tioner, Euenus of Paros, charged 5 minae (500 dr.).15These fees were for complete courses, but even paid lectures had a fairly steep admission charge: one sophist, Prodicus, had several different charges, e.g., /, 2, or 4 dr. ([Plato] Axioch. 366c = 6 T 5), had a lovely, for such EtlWoOOl Et This same Prodicus, who I6eiCElg. voice,"16 is also said to have had a 1 dr. and a 50 dr. "booming lecture on the "correctness of names." Of these themore expensive must have contained more material, since Socrates tells Cratylus he woud be better able if he had been able to afford the 50 dr. lecture instead etymology It must also have been more of just the 1 dr. version.17 since interesting, to 1 nod off in dr. the audience the Aristotle that whenever lecture, says began Prodicus used to throw in a bit of the high-priced spread (Rhet. 3.14, 1415b12 to talk about 6 T lb). The consequences of high fees were often high income and the accumula In Plato's dialogue Hippias (Hi. Ma. 282c-d = 4 T 9), Socrates and Prodicus have each "earned more from his wisdom that Gorgias itmay have been, and so did than any other craftsman from his art,18 whatever tion of wealth. mentions Protagoras before them." Hippias picks this up and says:19 If Socrates, you know nothing of the real charms of all this business. be I would astounded. To told how much have were earned, you you went to Sicily while Protagoras was living there. take one case only-I and was a far older man than I, and yet in a He had a great reputation in one place alone, than 150 minas. Why, short time I made more I re I more than 20 minas. When small took a Inycus, very place, I gave it to my father, reducing him and the money to a condition of stupefied amazement. (8 T 2) turned home with his fellow citizens Isocrates, in defending the sophists, tries to belittle their fortunes, saying that left only 1,000 staters at his death (say, 200 them, Gorgias, or 20,000 dr.) and did not have many expenses while he was alive minae however, either (Antid. 15.155 f. = 5 T 6). We have it on other authority, a solid gold statue of himself that Gorgias was also the first man to dedicate of the richest 15. Isocrates Contra sph. 13.3 = 13 T 8 probably underestimates the typical fees at 3-4 minae to suit his gibe that sophists sell dear things cheaply. Isocrates' own fee is given as 10 minae at [Plutarch] V. X orat. 838e (cf. Demosth. C. Lacrit. 43 for the same sum paid to a teacher of oratory). That greed often leads parents to seek a cheap sophist is noted by Plutarch (Lib. educ. 7.4 f.), along with an anecdote about Aristippus. 16. Cf. Plato Prt. 316al: [3o.tf3i,and (?) Su(da), s. v. f3ouf3ovo ((3374Adler): Orestes and Marpsias. 17. Plato Crat. 384b = 6T la. 91d = 4 T 10. Although cf. Meno with Phidias a comparison sculptors specifically, the best of them will also have taken on state standard received the wage projects, only 18. For probably lucrative private commissions, as is noted by Himmelmann (supran.ll) 19. I have cited the translation of B. Jowett, The Dialogues of Plato 128 and 140 f. (4th ed., 1953). This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions revised; Oxford BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching in the temple of Delphi, 5 so great were the rewards of teaching the art of rhetoric.20 Philostratus stated (V. sph. 1.10.4 = 4 T 2b) thatProtagoras' earningswere "not a bad thing, since we esteem more highly that which is expensive than thatwhich is free," and in accordance with this principle, sophists are said to have tended to measure their abilities by their incomes-or, as Plato has his put it (Hi. Ma. the wise man must above Socrates 283bl-3 - 13 T 23): "It is a popular for himself; of such wisdom all be wise sentiment that the criterion is in the end the ability to make the most money." The sophists' reputation for greed grew along with their bank balances. Plato the comic poet mentions their while Athenaeus says (12.548c-d = 5 T 5) that, accord greed ((pLXcQyuQia),21 ing to Demetrius of Byzantium, Gorgias attributed his long life to his "never having done anything for the sake of anybody else." Itwas only natural that theAthenian complaints about the sophists' incomes should lead further to criticism about their luxuriousness (TQVcpi). Even a quick glance at the fragments of Eupolis' Goats reveals that the sophists depicted in that play had an unusual interest in various strange, gourmet fish (frr. 1, 5Kock = 17 T 2a, b). In this play the chorus was comprised of goats representing sophists who were to eat from all the bushes allowed and trees of Athens: "We graze on every sort of foliage," they boast, and go on to list fully twenty-five species they find appetizing (fr. 14Kock = 17 T 2c). In his play The Unmilitary or theEffeminate ('AoT@arQTVTOL av6boyivval), Eupolis referred to the sophists who spent their time "in the nicely shadedwalks of the god Akedemos" (fr. 32 = Kock D[iogenes] L[aertius] and he calls his 3.7), 'hero' Pisander "the most cowardly man in the army" (fr. 31 Kock). In the Parasites Eupolis speaks of as the man who "plays the fool with his head in the air talking about Protagoras the things in the sky, and eating everything on the ground" (fr. 146a, b Kock - 4 fr. 172 Kock T 6b). He also refers to a sophist as xolko6bai(ov ("belly-spirited": = 17 T food and the wine a at which the and has throw lb7) banquet sophists each cost 100 dr. (fr. 149 Kock = 17 T lb2). Mention of food of course brings up the fact that the sophists were ridi fr. 162 Kock = 17 T lb5) says that culed as parasites.22 Eupolis (Parasites, "neither fire nor spear nor sword could keep sophists from coming to dinner." Sophists were condemned for staying in people's homes and holding court, but who were no matter where the sophists were damned, they taught. Athenians how much reminisced about have convinced they learned may sophist-lovers from sophists while sitting in barbershops during their young, ignorant days 20. Plin. Hist. nat. 33.24 (cf. Athen. 11.505d); see also Pausan. 6.17.7 on a statue of Gorgias at Olympia (5 T la-f). 21. 22. Peisandr., Simonides = fr. 103 Kock remarked that V. X orat. 833c = 9 T 2. [Plutarch] to be rich than wise, since it was better the wise frequented the houses of the rich (Aristotle Rhet. 2.16, 1391a8). Simonides himself was quite insistent that he be paid what he was worth: ibid. 3.2, 1405b23 ff. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions 6 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 (EupolisMarikas, fr. 180Kock = 15T 1), but these barbershops were hated by others.23 Some sophists plied their trade in the agora, as Socrates did (Plato 17c7 = Apol. 16 T 3a, cf. 3b, c), e.g., Hippias (Plato Hi. Mi. 368b3-5 = 8T 7). Others just went to the agora to pick up their "marks," and these sophists were ridiculed too. In Eupolis' Parasites (fr. 159 Kock = 16 T 2) Protagoras describes his technique: I head I find some stupid but rich off to the agora and there, when at I'm over him once. If he all fellow, happens to be saying something, I praise it fulsomely and I look out of my mind with joy at his words. Then I get invited to dinner.24 If sophists congregated at public places such as the shrine of Akademos or the Lyceum, theywere criticized for enjoying the amenities of those places and for being lazy good-for-nothings (Antiphanes Kleophanes, fr. 122Kock [cf.post 17 T 2]). Perhaps, then, the place to practice sophistic was a school, like the of Pheidostratus 6b6aoxcaeLov (Plato Hi. Ma. 286b4-6 = 8 T 5). But we see how kindly Aristophanes treated the "thinking-shop" in his Clouds! Finally, as good parasites, the sophists were blamed for making people waste their for tunes, for example, the once fabulously wealthy Callias (cf. 17 T la). In Plato's Protagoras Socrates' friendHippocrates iswilling to spend his own money and his friends' too, if his own is insufficient, to studywith Protagoras (311d = 13T 28). In keeping with the philosopher/sophist contrast, Democritus, on the other hand, was said to have destroyed his own inheritance, as was Anaxagoras.25 II So much made for the standard by Xenophon is against the sophists. Now Socrates complaints but not and Plato to share some of these complaints, others. For example, Plato's Socrates interprets the charge of corrupting the youth, of which Socrates himself was also accused, as a result of the Athenians' ignorance of the sophists:Anytus (Meno 91b-d; cf. Resp. 492a) ismade to say that the sophists corrupt the young, but he cannot respond to Socrates' ques at least, does not even have Socrates Plato, tion, "By doing what?" give a seems to of of he denunciation general taking although sophists' money,26 ridicule theirmeasuring their skill by their incomes. Indeed, the Platonic Soc = 8T 1) that Protagoras says (Prt. 328b3 = 4 T la; cf. Hi. Ma. 281b6 deserves he gets for the benefits he confers. Far from being funda the money rates 23. Plato Comicus Sophistae, fr. 135 Kock = Sch. Aristoph. Av. 299 = 15 T 2. 24. See also Ameipsias Apokottabizontes, fr. 1Kock = Athen. 7.307e = 16 T 1. 25. Athen. 4.168b, cf. Diels-Kranz 68 A 14-17; Plato Hi. Ma. 283a; Plutarch Vitand. aer. alieno 831f, Pericl. 16, cf. Diels-Kranz 59 A 13. 26. On Plato's general attitude to the sophists see, e.g., H. Raeder, "Platon und die Sophis ten," Filos. Medd. Dan. Vid. Selsk. (1939) 1-36. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching 7 mentally opposed to sophists, the Platonic and Xenophontic Socrates some times sends them students with whom he will not himself work, and in his Apology (19e = 5 T 9), though denying that he teaches for money, Plato's Socrates says that paid tuition is a good thing, as long as one can actually teach, as Gorgias, Prodicus, and Hippias can.27 Yet Socrates, as is tolerably clear both from his pupils and from others, did not take fees himself, despite Aristophanes' calumnies.28Eupolis (fr. 352Kock [Parasites?] = 19 T 8) calls Socrates a pauper who thought of everything but where his meals would come from. Ameipsias (Konnos, fr. 9 Kock, apud 19T 5) has his chorus of sophists tease Socrates with being barefoot and hungry, having a poor cloak, but not yet having brought himself to become a parasite. A story related by Seneca, though late and obviously fabricated, is instructive (De ben. 1.8.1 = 19 T 6): Once, when many gifts were being presented to Socrates by his pupils, each one bringing according to his means, Aeschines, who was poor, said to him: "Nothing that I am able to give to you do I find worthy of and in this you, only way do I discover that I am a poor man. And so I give to you the only thing that I possess-myself. This gift, such as it is, I beg you to take in good part, and bear inmind that the others, though they gave to you much, have left more for themselves." "And how," said Socrates, "could it have been anything but a great gift-unless maybe you set small value upon yourself? to return you to yourself a better man And so I shall make itmy care I received you."29 than when This story is presumably based on the kind of thing Plato has Socrates say in theHippias Major (281b6 = 8 T 1), that a sophistmust give his customer his money's worth. But it illustrates the fact that the tradition that Soc accepted rates, although he took no fees for his services, did accept gifts-but only, as we learn elsewhere, to fulfill his basic needs.30 This was to some extent over done by at least one of Socrates' followers, Aristippus, who accepted large gifts and earned himself a reputation as a gourmet.31 Now, what were Socrates' 27. In Xenoph. Mem. 3.1.1-3, Socrates is shown inciting one of his companions to study generalship with Dionysodorus. When the fellow returns, Socrates cross-examines him on what he has learned and sends him back to the sophist (3.1.11 = 10T 2). It seems that Socrates was testing the kind of education the sophist was dispensing. 28. Nubes 98, 245, 876, 1146 = 19 T 7. 29. Translation by J. W. Basore, Seneca. Moral Essays III, Loeb Classical Library (Cam bridge, Mass. and London 1935); the story is also inD. L. 2.34 (19 T 6b). 30. Cf. Xenophon Oec. 2.8 ( = 19 T 18) and D. L. 2.24-25, 2.74, 2.80 (19 T 4a, b, c). See also the story aboutMenedemus and Asclepiades inAthen. 4.168a-b. Aelian Var. hist. 9.29 (19T 1) tells a story in which Socrates, over Xanthippe's protest, refuses large gifts fromAlcibiades. 31. Cf. frr. 3A-8B Mannebach, especially 6 ( = D. L. 2.80), on gifts and wages; frr. 62 and 67-83B are about Aristippus' luxurious lifestyle. On the general issue, see Xenoph. Mem. 1.2.60 (19 T 15a). On Plato, see D.L. 3.9 (Plato accepted over 80 talents fromDionysius), 4.2 (contrast ing Plato with Speusippus, who took fees) and Ephippus Nauagus, fr 14Kock. On Antisthenes, cf. D.L. 6.4. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions 8 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 that is, the Platonic and Xenophontic Socrates'-reasons for not takingmoney in themanner of the sophists? First, Plato's and Xenophon's Socrates felt that money is not of great value; asXenophon himself says (Cyn. 13.9 = 14 T 2): "the sophists hunt after the young and rich, but philosophers are available as friends to all (radolxolvol xcai qcpLo) and they neither respect nor dishonor men's fortunes (r6Xag)."As we shall see, Xenophon may want to claim such "availability to all" for himself and impute it to his master, but this ideal is not in accord with another, elitist tendency in Socrates as he is portrayed by his pupils.32Plato seems ambivalent on common availability, and he does not follow up this point when Socrates and Callicles have agreed that to teach only thosewho pay is aioaX6v for those who say they can make people or cities better (Grg. 520e2-5 = 13 T 21 sub fin.). Plato agrees with Xenophon, however, on the unimportance of money to Socrates. In theHippias Major (282d2 = 13 T 22) Plato makes Socrates remark that the seven sages, as opposed tomodern sophists, were so foolish as not to realize that money was worth a lot. The sarcasm in that statement needs no elucidation. Going along with the unimportance of money is the complaint that the sophists' practice is silly and almost self-contradictory, since they are selling great things for comparatively little.33 Socrates' pupil Plato has the main speaker of his dialogue the Sophist (234a7 = 13 T 33) ask Theaetetus: "Don't you consider it to be a joke when someone says he knows everything and can teach it to someone else for a small fee in a short time?" This may well be Plato's answer to the taunt of Antiphon inXenophon's Memorabilia (1.6.11 = 19 T 17): Antiphon said that although Socrates was just, even Socrates appar ently recognized that he was not wise, since he charged no money for his companionship; he would not give away his cloak, since it isworth money, and the same would apply to his company, if he thought itwas worth anything. The response Xenophon puts in Socrates' mouth is a comparison of wisdom to if you beauty: are a friend.34 So he who sell it, you teaches are a whore, arete or a useful but, if you give art gives, it to good people, as was said, you something of great value. In return, according to the Socratics, the recipient should show his into a virtuous man. if he has been made (X(6Qiv ei6YvaL), especially to Such pupils should become one's friends, and it is another self-contradiction fear lest he whom you have made virtuous fail to show his gratitude: one must thanks 32. See the praise of the hunter at Xenoph. Cyn. 13.11, and Plato's reversal, whereby the sophists are xotvol, atMeno 91b4 (13 T 27; v. infra). 33. Isocrates (Contra sph. 13.4 = 13 T 9) says that the sophists claimed to despise money, and even so they sold the greatest boons for small sums. 34. On this passage see J. S. Morrison, C1R n.s. 5 (1955) 8-12, and 0. Gigon, Kommentar zum ersten Buch von Xenophons Memorabilien (Schweiz. Beitr. z. Altertumswiss. 5; Basel 1953) 160ff. The figure of the whore is also used at Alciphro 1.34.4-7 = 18T 1. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching 9 trust in the products of one's teaching.35Thus Xenophon (Mem. 1.2.6-8 = 19 T 14) says that Socrates was surprisedwhen someone promised to teach virtue for a fee and did not acquired a friend but, think that the greatest reward he received was that he afraid that the newly made xoak6 x&yac06g rather, was would not have the utmost gratitude to him who had helped him most.36 Plato has Socrates say (Grg. 519c4 = 13 T 20) that the sophists, who act intelligently about everything else, do a strange thing: although they say they teach virtue, they often curse their students for being ungrateful and stiffing them, and "what could be more ridiculous than that men who become good and just, purged of injustice by their teacher and possessing justice, should commit injustice by virtue of that which they no longer possess?" Protagoras had a system to avoid this absurdity: his pupils would either pay his set fee or, swearing in a temple what they felt their education had been worth, pay that sum. But even Protagoras fell into the trap when he had to sue his pupil Euathlus for nonpayment.37 Imentioned before that Socrates is not said to have believed that sophistic teachers "corrupted the young"; nevertheless, Socrates is shown by Plato calling attention to the danger inherent in associating with a sophist. In the Protagoras, namely, Socrates, in a comparison which became commonplace, likens the sophist to a salesman of the goods by which the soul is cared for.38 In order tomake the greatest profit from his business, the sophist-salesmanmust use good sell and praise his wares-not just those which may actually be = 13 T 29a, for the customer, but all of them (313c-314b b). The danger the hard is that the pupil will not be in a position to see through the sophist's hype and thus will be harmed than helped. rather One may easily contrast the Platonic Socrates with the Platonic sophists on this point, for while the sophists praise all theirwares indiscriminately (their own, but not their colleagues': cf. Plato Prt. "the midwife" Socrates 318d7-e5), takes care to see that the children of whom he delivers his associates are real, not mere wind-eggs (Plato Tht. 150cl-3). We are left to conclude that Socrates is a more objective judge and 35. Isocrates (Contra sph. 13.5 = 13 T 9) also ridicules the sophists' anxiety about their eventual payment. 36. Cf. Aristotle's discussion of xoaT'&erQETv (piLia (Eth. Nic. 9.1, 1164a34 ff.), where it is also said that philosophy is not given amonetary value, since no price could ever be high enough. Kerferd (supra n.11) 25 mentions only this line of reasoning, besides the necessity of instructing "whoever wants it." He calls the argument that it is inappropriate to charge money for teaching virtue "the standard answer" to the question of why Socrates objected to sophists' fees, but he feels that poets would also have been liable to criticism on such grounds, if this were an important reason for Socrates' objections. Therefore Kerferd accords only the "towhoever wants it" objec tion any weight. 37. Cf. 4 T 4a-f; the story is also told of Corax at S(extus) E(mpiricus), (Adversus) M(athematicos) 2.96 f. 38. W. R. Connor, The New Politicians of Fifth-Century Athens (Princeton 1971) 171-73, notes that Old Comedy lowers the demagogues to the level of hucksters, drawing upon them the old prejudice against the dishonest x6anrlog. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions 10 Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY a safer than any companion sophist because not he does sell his-or any wares. Next we come to the charge that teaching for money was unbecoming a gentleman. This is a very commonly cited objection which I think was not actually made Gorgias where and his associates. that at the point in the Note by Socrates that in Socrates' Dodds mentions39 time "to teach for money was still an ungentlemanly occupation" (519b3-521al = 13 T 21 init.), Socrates that it is perfectly says in order for all teachers but the teachers to of arete charge fees. It should also be noted that the sophists were not, by and large, aristocratic Athenians, and neither was Socrates. Socrates' young friendHip pocrates reacts with shock to the suggestion that the reason he wants to study with Protagoras might be that he wants to become a sophist too. This reaction has often been cited as an example of Athenian upper-class prejudice against the sophists. But here we should see that Hippocrates very much wants to study with Protagoras-he just cannot see making a profession of sophistry.40 he will study for general education's Rather, sake, as befits the layman and the free man (6)g TO6 i6ibLOTr xcal Tov ?EXeuOcov JErrctQ':Plato Prt. 312a-b). The an or a to a amateur was be gentleman always supposed layman, specialist in nothing, so the emphasis no longer seems to be on the ungentlemanly character of teaching for money but, rather, on the ungentlemanly character of being a professional of any sort.41 III The that the layman and the free man ought to study only for general brings us to a further point, not this time concerned with being a view education As Aristotle points out (Eth. layman, but with being a freeman, an kXu0eOQog. to do something and you take 9.1, 1164a27 ff. = 13 T 2), if you promise in whatever fee deserve advance, you your problems you encounter when your Nic. service is either not rendered or not worth the price charged; clearly, you must you have been paid to do. to "deliver takes the necessity Xenophon42 do what the goods" as an infringement of 39. Plato's Gorgias (Oxford 1959) 365. 40. So Nestle (supra n.9) 262. 41. On "liberal" or "free" occupations see K. Raaflaub, "Zum Freiheitsbegriff der Grie chen," in E. Ch. Welskopf, ed., Soziale Typenbegriffe im alten Griechenland und ihrFortleben in den Sprachen der Welt. Band 4: Untersuchungen ausgew. altgr. soz. Typenbegr. u. ihrFortleben in Antike u. Mittelalter (Berlin, D.D.R. 1981) 180-405, at 305-7. See also H.-D. Zimmermann, "Zur Beurteilung der freienArbeit im klassischen Griechenland," in Sektion Orient- undAltertumswiss. d. Martin-Luther-Universitat Halle-Wittenberg ed., Humanismus undMenschenbild imOrient und inWelskopf, Soziale in derAntike (Halle 1977) 39-51. On the "layman" see 0. Gigon, "i6lOTTrl;," Typenbegriffe. Band 3: Untersuchungen ausgew. altgr. soz. Typenbegr., pp. 386-91. Xenophon Mem. 4.7.1 shows that it is not "slavish" to hire oneself out to various employers for specific jobs, but to be the employee of one man and oversee his property was slaves' work. 42. Guthrie entirely correct, (supra n.9) 39 says since the theme of this theme "whoever in Xenophon it" does occur is found wants but not in Plato. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions in Plato; At this is not p. 401 Guthrie BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching one's freedom, for his services. and he makes 11 reason why Socrates did not take a fee = 19 T says (1.2.6 14) that Soc Xenophon it a major In the Memorabilia rates dismissed those who took a fee for their company as enslavers of them selves, because itwas incumbent upon them to converse with those fromwhom they had taken a fee. In his version of theApology (16 = 19T 11)Xenophon has Socrates do you know who ask: "Whom is less a slave to his fleshly desires than I;what man do you know who ismore free than I,who accept neither gifts nor a wage from anyone?"43In theMemorabilia (1.6.5 ff. = 19T 16-17) Xenophon's Socrates emphasizes that, since he does not takemoney, he does not have to converse with anyone with whom he does not want to converse. Now, what exactly were the obligations Socrates was made by Xenophon to avoid by not taking money? As we see from Aristotle (Eth. Nic. 9.1, 1164a22 ff. = 4 T lb, cf. 19 T 1), either of a service the recipient could fix the value (Lcta) and therefore the price (TLld, cf. TLrflocCL 1164a25) of the service, in which case payment was made only after the service was complete, or the provider could set his price, which was to be paid by the recipient before performance. The former method was employed by Protagoras, but Aristotle implies thatmost sophists were not as certain of their clients' satisfaction and hence a fixed demanded fee as payment in advance.44 Since law of the Greek sale seems to have recognized transfer of ownership of goods only upon pay ment of the price, irrespective of the physical transfer or nontransfer of possession,45 it is probable that the provider of a service was legally obligated to provide that service only if he accepted the fee in advance.46 This accords with Xenophon's usage in theMemorabilia passages about Socrates: in both passages tense the aorist indicates that the payment has been before accepted attributes this objection to Socrates himself as "hismain motive for declining to accept payment." The latter statement is part of a discussion of the daimonion and its importance in Socrates' choice of his pupils. Unfortunately, if the complaint that the sophist has no choice of pupils appears only inXenophon, then it will be difficult to correlate with the selective function of the daimonion, since the daimonion is given this job of pupil-selection only in Plato (v. infra). 43. Socrates' Bedirfnislosigkeit was thus a way of ensuring his kEuk0eOQa (Xenoph. Apol. 16 [19T 11],Mem. 1.6.4-5 [19T 16], Aelian Var. hist. 9.29 [19T 1]);Diogenes of Sinope, of course. carried Socrates' practice to extremes. It is also possible to see Hippias of Elis' development of the skills necessary to make all his own clothing, etc. as an approach to solving the problem of independence. It is, however, unsatisfactory as a solution, since themanufacture of clothing and ornament belonged to various crafts, and the laymanwas not supposed to learn the skills used in Cicero De orat. 3.32.127). 368b-e, any of the crafts (Hi. Min. one ought to put a horse out to be broken, 44. Xenophon 2.2 says that, when sending Hipp. and he compares this with sending one's he is returned, in writing what is to know when the horse C mcT child out to learn a trade: XQ UEvxoL (tEQ TOVY Aa&6X a orCav TE'xvrlv EX68o, OUyyQactpacvov x FotaL tTO nkofo6dvr] 6FOEL dTo66ovaL 0?ElrtorLEevov TactIj yd@Q6jIoltvlata otUoTg ?xbi66vaLt. ()v 6&L EltEXtkr1EVacL, EL u?tXtl TOY6vuL06V &:ToXi.Weo0at. The Greek thesis of F. Pringsheim, 45. This is a main 141f., 190ff. Note that 6 P3ovh6otvoc can be a legal term Law of Sale (Weimar that anyone indicating 1950), e.g., 88f., has the right to bring a particular action. 46. The alternative is for him to accept an arra. But this procedure is never mentioned with regard to sophists' fees, although it is quite common in contracts for service in general; cf. Pring sheim (supra n.45) 374f. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions 12 Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY the service is rendered, and that is the origin of the obligation.47Once thepayment had been made, Socrates could not change his mind and decide not to teach that for whom the fee had been paid, nor could he decide in the middle of the the instruction: this iswhat Xenophon that he would not continue sees as a person course loss of "freedom." Thus, payment inadvancewas amixed blessing for the sophist, guaranteeing him a certain fee which he probably had no legalmeans of collecting after he had rendered his service,48but obligating him to perform the service for his employer. The employer toowill have found thatpayment inadvance had both he runs the risk that the service will not be as and disadvantages: advantages advertised,49but he legally obligates the employee to perform thewhole of the contracted service at the contracted (and paid) price, eliminating the possibility that, e.g., a famous sophist would better offer before the instruction either raise his fee in mid-course or take up a is complete.5' Could Socrates have avoided obligating himself to perform simply by refus ing to take his payment in advance and following Protagoras'method of letting I think that he could had been worth? the pupil pay what he felt his education to teach, but not a certain duty to do what he avoided the legal obligation have had agreed to do. The negotiation preceding the instructionwould have estab lished this duty, but it would not have established an obligation unless there contract or unless money if changed hands.5 Possibly, in front to promise, in the manner of a Gorgias or Euthydemus, of a large crowd to teach anyone who would pay, this might have been con a strued to be an offer that anyone present could accept, thereby concluding had been Socrates a witnessed were binding contract (6Oiokoyia).The contract would be enforceable because of the of witnesses,52 presence 47. Mem. lUo06V, and .... d1ooltv 48. This 1.2.6 1.6.5 and Socrates T (=19 19 T (= is so, unless would indeed have to teach anyone who . . . &vayxa[ov O bv dlotsv TOV a' rivC 6lU bLaXcyEoaCL acVrOg 14): 16):... ILto6v &vxvayxcalov EoTlv &aEQy6iEdco0a l TOTO E(p' c) an arra had been accepted; cf. Pringsheim (supra n. 45) 374. 49. He is, however, protected against the employee's failure to perform the work either by specific nonperformance sanctions in his contract or by :raaitov l: Pringsheim (supra n.45) 57. 50. As Pringsheim (supra n.45) notes (p. 89), in a contract of sale, the principal interest of the buyer is that the vendor accept his price, without either finding another buyer at a higher price or raising the price to the first buyer. If the buyer does not pay, he does not gain ownership and has no recourse if the goods are not delivered. Isocrates is portrayed ([Plutarch] V. X orat. 837b) as feeling ejti X(ov, a0t]larCg caot, JTQoTov quite bound by prepaid fees: oxoXqg 6' yel?Io, 6g; TLVEg; ?X)ov Evvac' OTE xca :teQactuvov." libdv One TOV [Ito06v may guess baxpoag &dLO[tuo6uEVov CELTE had a difficult that Isocrates (0e "':3TE;YVWvEIaUTOV VUV TOUTOL; time making the transition from the political life and that his first collection of fees was therefore somewhat humiliating. 51. Pringsheim (supra n.45) 17ff. Such a duty might have been the occasion of an equitable remedy through arbitration. . . . (v6oov) O6v XEkjOVTC 42.12: XVQgiCt ECIvc lag Jroog &akkrlov; aT v. Cf. av evavLCov itoioCovrctl [QCr Pringsheim (supra n.45) 36: "At first by a 6toXooy(cag, &g the court, finally by a public declara before or outside in court, then by a compromise confession to and the law seems that he will do something, of his own free will tion a party declares 52. E.g., Demosth. acknowledge such a declaration as binding." This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions vs Sophists BLANK: Socratics on Payment to pay his price. In one instance had presumably let it be known agreed (who 13 for Teaching to us, the painter Agatharchus his services were available that for a known price) refused to work for Alcibiades. Alcibiades kidnapped him and forced him to paint his house, "even though [the painter] begged [to be set free] and offered legitimate excuses, saying that he could not do this [work for Alcibi ades] now because he had contracts from others."53While this does not prove thatAgatharchus would otherwise have had to accept Alcibiades' job, the fact that he offered previous commitments as an excuse could mean that there was a presumption that the artistwould not simply refuse a commission. So the concerns Socrates puts in Socrates' mouth have a legal basis. If Xenophon to retain the right to refuse to associate with anyone, he must wants not charge a fee for his company. An element of shamefulness is also injected into the description of the sophistic practice: if you sell yourself to whoever wants your conversation (TxO 3oVikO vcp), you are a whore. You should (Mem. 1.6.13 f. = 19 T 17) pick people who you see are well endowed (dcpueL;), teach them what you can, and make them your friends: this is what Xeno phon's Socrates says he does.54 For the Platonic Socrates, of course, teaching does not come into question, since he claims to be knowledgeable only about love. The criticismwe saw in Xenophon, that the sophists are obliged to associate with whoever wants to pay them, appears in Plato as well, however. While Xenophon saw this obligation as a loss of one's occurrence of freedom,55 Plato makes different points about it. So it is the "to whoever these words, wants it" (Tz P3ovUXo?vcp, vel sim.), that Iwill try to explain in the next paragraphs. G. B. Kerferd out discrimination to see all comers with has recognized that their obligation is the major reason for criticism of the sophists in regard to their fees.56Kerferd notes, however, that "it is doubtful whether itwould have for the independence of the sophist which was the real basis for this objection" and concludes that "the real reason for the objection was not concern to protect to associate with all kinds of the sophists from having solicitude been people, itwas objections to all kinds of people being able to secure, simply by paying for it, what the sophists had to offer." They provided, according to to become powerful a man needed the knowledge in the state; Kerferd, was the source both of their attraction and of the attacks on them. There assumption this are many one of which is the tacit faults in this line of reasoning, that Plato's and Xenophon's criticism of the lack of freedom of the sophist represents a popular critique, one at home among those who would worry about their own disadvantage, should all kinds of people prove able, on C. Alcib. 17: ... . Eovou [Andoc.] TUcTat nc 7tTELV TVi6. 6L To oUYYQacpa Cf. Apol. 26 = 19 T 13. 55. Cf. Aelian Var. hist. 10.14 = 19 T 2. 53. 6ivalTo 54. 6& xae rrQocp6oJLEc aXr0le;g eTeQCOV.... E'XELVxaQ' 56. (Supra n.11) 25-26. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions XyovTog, 4; o0tx av 14 Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY the strength of a sophistic education, to rise to prominence in the state. Next, it need not be solicitude for the sophist's independence, but provision for their own independence that motivates Plato and Xenophon in their critique. Fi nally, Kerferd's analysis does not fit the social realities of the fifth century B.C. Since it took money to secure a sophistic education, the only group who could have objected to what Kerferd considers the availability of an essential tool for an up-and-coming politician would have been the aristocrats.These men would have felt that political power was their birthright. The nouveaux riches will have been able tomatch the visibility automatically afforded to scions of the great families by paying for an education in rhetoric,which would enable them to become demagogues.57This scenario does not fit, for several reasons. First, buying oneself an education was probably the least one could do with money, if one wanted to gain political influence. Fifth-century Athens was a place where political largesse58and expenditures on liturgies, especially the choregia, were used by many politicians59 to gain popularity with the people.66 If one to go needed to court, wealth enabled one to buy a speech from a logographos like Lysias or to buy off one's prosecutors;61one need not have been a trained orator oneself. it was Second, not the nouveaux riches who betook themselves and their sons to the sophists but, rather, the aristocrats.62All our evidence indicates 57. There is no indication that the poorer citizens had reason to fear the political effects of this expensive education; in any case, they were already heavily disadvantaged (pace A. W. H. Adkins, "a&eons,tiXVl, Democracy and Sophists: Protagoras 316b-328d," JHS 93 [1973] 10). If people did fear that traditional values were threatened by sophistry, this fearwas not closely linked to the fact that sophists took fees. 58. Plutarch Nicias 3.1-2, Alcib. 4.1, 10. Cf. Connor (supra n.38) 19ff. 59. Cf. J. K. Davies, review of Connor (supra n.38), Gnomon 47 (1975) 374-78, at 377. Note especially Xenoph. Mem. 3.4.1-3. 60. Plutarch Pericl. 9.2-3. 61. At Xenoph. Mem. 2.9.1, Crito says that suits have been brought against him in the hope that he would settle out of court. As for the sophists' potential for success by displays and trickery in court, J. Meinecke, "Gesetzesinterpretation und Gesetzesanderung im attischen Zivilprozess," Rev. Int. Droits. Ant. ser. 3,18 (1971) 275-360, while admitting that the courts could be arbitrary in some highly charged political cases (281), affirms that the sophists were not able to change "das starre Festhalten am genauen Wortlaut einer gesetzlichen Bestimmung" (358). 62. See Connor (supra n.38) 166 n.54, who makes the point that, though both sophists and demagogues are xwoqpbo6oe[vot,Old Comedy does not link them as it would have, had they collaborated. The only counterexample is Socrates' tutoring of Hyperbolus (Aristoph.Nub. 876 = 19T 7c). Cf. Meno 70b3 (cited infra);Apol. 23c ( = 19 T 20); IsocratesAntid. 219 f. ( = 13T 13a); Philostr. V. sph. PaO0owv oLxcov; cEi0ovta TOV V&OV xai toig Ex ... ( = 6 T 3): avivEUE CroUg erZaT0iag and Prt. 316c7 (4 T 13): (13 T 31a): veov t.Xovo/ov xcra evvwCov; . .... Adkins that "P3OTLootO p. 10, notes TOi;gS PEXTirog (supra n.56), 1.12 on Prodicus Plato tOV veywv 223b6 Sph. certainly has socio-political overtones"; cf. Nestle (supra n.9) 259, "... Familien," and 476f. Adkins remarks on p. 12: "Some of the sophists' die Sohne beguterter pupils were drawn from families that had traditionally been prominent politically; for example, Critias; butmany must have been drawn as ayacoi-but from families were not who could afford sons of old political such an education-and families." But could he adduces accordingly no evidence This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions be regarded for his claim. BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching 15 that Callias and Pericles were much more typical clients of sophists thanwere the demagogues whom the aristocrats despised. In fact, the more notorious demagogues are depicted in comedy and by Thucydides as anti-intellectuals, opposed to the rhetorical skills which they felt made a man untrustworthy.63 The only nouveau riche politician who is connected with sophistic isNicias, but he is not linked by comedy with the demagogues and was, rather, an imitator of the aristocrats.64 Third, it is not at all clear how much practical benefit a sophistic education would have been to a politician. Surely some of the arts taught by the sophists would not have benefited thewould-be public figure, e.g., wrestling, fighting in armor, correctness of names, household management.65 Even when potentially useful courses were taught by sophists, our impression of them is that they were too general and superficial in content to have been of any value. Xeno phon makes his opinion known (Mem. 3.1) by having his Socrates send one of his associates to study generalship with Dionysodorus and then cross-examine him on what he has learned. It soon develops that he has learned only basic truths, and not how to implement them; he has learned that the best men must go in the front and rear ranks, but he has not learned to judge which men are the best or what they should be best at (3.1.8-11). Continuing in this vein, Xenophon shows us what sort of young man is likely towant such a superficial education and not to realize how much detailed knowledge a good politician must have at his command: the aristocratic Glauco, Aristo's son and Plato's brother, wanted to become an orator and vie for the headship of the people, though he was not yet twenty years old; Socrates persuades him to wait by demonstrating to him that he has none of the necessary knowledge of state finances, resources, etc. (3.6.1-18).66 Cleon and Hyperbolus, on the other The reference (n.28) to hisMoral Values and Political Behaviour inAncient Greece (London 1972) 64f., 110 regards the "new agathoi," whom the old aristocrats were "reluctant" to acknowledge as and it cites Cleon as an example. is just the sort of person who But, as we shall see, Cleon agathoi, was violently opposed to sophists. 63. Connor (supra n.38) 95 and 163-68. Cf. Aristophanes Eq. 188-92; Eupolis Maricas, fr. 193 Kock (Maricas, i.e., Hyperbolus, knows only his ABC's); Cleon apud Thucydides 3.37.3-4. 64. On Nicias' family, cf. J. K. Davies, Propertied Families of Attica 600-300 B.C. (Oxford .1973) 10808 and Connor (supra n.38) 153 n.7. On Nicias' association with sophists, see Plato La. 180dl. 65. On subjects of instruction see, e.g., Guthrie (supra n.9) 44ff. I cannot accept the conten tion (of, e.g., H. Fuchs, "Enkyklios Paideia," RAC 5 [1962] 365f.) that the sophists in general gave comprehensive instruction in basic, everyday disciplines. A boy went first (Plato Prt. 312b) to the Cf. Kerferd (supra n.11) 37ff. XxlOacltoTgand aL6boiTQL3rqg. y@a4icaLTLoag, 66. Xenoph. Mem. 3.6.1: Glauco would look ridiculous and be dragged from the podium if, with his inexperience, he tried to assume a role in politics. Cf. Jones (supran.11) 132: "In practice the people did not suffer fools gladly." lo of Chios, for one, was quite unimpressed with the political skills, as opposed to the social graces, of theAthenian upper class. He praises Sophocles' wit over drinks, but adds: ix gVTOLitoklTiX& OirTEoocpoS o/jE 5EXwiQLog TV, a&k' c;g 6v Tig Eat TnidvXe@QoTv 'A0OTvailov (FGrHist 392 F 6 = Athen. 603e-604d). This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions 16 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 hand, seem to modern scholars studying their careers to have had a good command of themachinery of state.67 Thus, Kerferd's analysis of the criticism that the sophist must associate with "whoever wants to pay" is unsatisfactory. Let us now return to the Pla tonic occurrences of thismotive and examine what Plato findswrong: 1. Prt. 313d5 13 T 29b): (= In this way those too who carry lessons around from city to city, selling them to each person who desires them, praise all the things they sell. But perhaps, my friend, even of them there are some who do not know whether each of the things they sell is useful or harmful for the soul. 2. Euthyd. 271d3 (= 10 T 1): For these two [i.e., Euthydemus and Dionysodorus] are capable both of fighting in armor themselves and also of making another, whoever gives them money, able to do this. 3. Meno 91b2 (= 13 T 27): Isn't it clear that, according to what we to those men who profess to teach just said, one ought to send Meno advertise that are available to any Greek who wants to virtue, they a and this? both demand and collect fee for learn, LOTLFol 4. Meno 70b2: TCTOUV&? t5rv aiiTLO; Ca x6lOtAEvoc (gyia' Tv Ya& 'ng 6)OXLv gQcaoT&ag JTI ooqda ?ir'Epqv 'AX?)vucixV T? TO'g Ov 6 o6g ?CaT(J g ?OTLV 'AQO(oTJTJTOg,XCa TCOVa&Xwv JrodTovg, E?TT(aXv. XOai 6. Xca TOVTO TO E9o;g 15idg E'LOt?Xv,aqp)u(Og T? XOCi oneQgTE yEacXoJTrQ?@&Tc aJroxQtVE(JOcl T6v TiSgIt EQrlTai, ELOg Tro rTOv QoO)Tcv T6OV 'EXrjvcov T(l cV C&TE xai E6oTag1, cr\TOg 7taQEXov (3ov.Xo?vy Ott Cv TLg iovoXYqTra, xaci O'Gvoi OT) OX d&tOXQLv6O?tvog. is Gorgias. And the cause of your reputation For he arrived in the city and won over as suitors for wisdom both the foremost of the Aleuadae, of whom is one, and the best of the other your suitor Aristippus Thessalians too. In particular he accustomed you to respond fearlessly and magnificently, if anyone asks any question, as is only fitting for men to do, and just as he himself makes himself avail knowledgeable able to whoever of the Greeks wants to ask him anything he desires, there being no one whose question he will not answer. 5. Hi. Ma. 282c4 (= 6 T 4a and 13 T 22): Prodicus made a good impression both when he spoke before the Council and when he gave in private houses and associated with the young men, from speeches which activities he took in a fantastic amount of money. Yet none of to charge a monetary the old wise men ever thought it worthwhile fee, nor to give demonstrations of his own knowledge of people. They were so foolish as not to realize a lot. The first passage their wares implies indiscriminately some criticism to whoever in front of all manner that money was worth of the sophists' practice of praising them, since some of them-and wants 67. Cf. Connor (supra n.38) 126. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching also some of 17 each of these wares not know whether their customers68-do is good or bad for the soul. In the second passage Euthydemus and Dionysodo rus are complimented because they say they can teach whoever pays: either theirmethod is easy to learn, or they are good teachers, or both.69 In passage three Socrates asks Anytus whether he should sendMeno to the sophists in order to learn arete. The fourth passage contains an ironic criticism. Socrates seems to be praising Gorgias' method as being responsible for the abundance of men in Thessaly for sophia, admired but he continues: "In Athens there's a drought in sophia, so if you ask anyone 'isvirtue teachable?' he'll laugh and say he doesn't even know what virtue is" (70c-71a). Now, since Socrates admits to not knowing what virtue is (71b) and the rest of the dialogue shows that it is not at all easy to know what virtue is, Socrates is praising Gorgias' method for having created a crop of overeager pseudo-intellectuals: this is all one can expect when one offers to answer any question put by anyone. Ironic critique continues in the fifth passage, where Prodicus is put up against the (o nakaLctoi EXEivoL); we know who must get the worst of that The Sages are said to have been so stupid as not to have recog comparison. nized the great value of money. In particular, they are said not to have taken Seven fees Sages not and to have given demonstrations of their wisdom to mixed or to talking to rag-tag groups of people. Here we get a clue as to why Plato has Socrates object whoever pays or whoever wants to speak with one. As in passage one (and three, where it"), it is not at all in connection the fee is not mentioned the fee that is troublesome in passage with "whoever wants five. In the first passage the danger to those who cannot tell good wares from harmful was emphasized: will not make any selec the clever merchandisers they are in danger because In the fifth passage I cannot tion among their wares or among their customers. that ev navToubaroLS a&vO9Qrnotg has an elitist ring: one the feeling escape not to to just anyone.70 Note that in the Meno ought display one's wisdom (passage 3) Socrates emphasizes that sophists offer themselves as common property to answer any question at all. We can now see that the property of being available to all men in common, which Xenophon had said distinguished the philosophers from the fee-taking sophists (Cyn. 13.9 [=14 T 2 infin.]: T7aol xolvol xal is now qpiXo), attributed by Plato to the sophists and made circumspect.7 68. That both the hucksters and their customers are meant is implied by xa TO'To)V (313d8). 69. Aristotle picks up on this at Sph. el. 34, 183b36 (= 5 T 4). 70. Noted by Kerferd (supra n.11) 25. Cf., e.g., Plato Resp. 6.493dl-9. 71. It is possible that Plato also plays on Xenophon's contrast between Socrates and the sophists at Mem. 1.6.11ff. = 19 T 17, where the latter are compared to xoTQvaL. A prostitute could be referred to as xolIv (Athen. 13.588f: xolv ovvoixZt; jr6oo), while the sophists are eoEvoI (Plato Sph. 222d, Euthyd. 273a-b; Xenoph. Symp. 4.62 = 18 T 2). Another Platonic mention of "whoever wants it" isHippias' claim at Hi. Min. 363d3 that he will answer anyone's questions. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions 18 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 This elitism is noticeable again in a sixth passage: 6. Sph. TEIXVTV, & 232d5: ExdoTralv Xiav ye IIv JTEQLJTaC(C0vTC xaC xCaTa XJTQOgExaCTOv atTOV TOV 6tlO0VQyOV aVTELJELV, JTov xcaTac(3pi3kqTaC yEyQacL cV TO) P[ov0Xo'va) 6e 66rELAtooio?va tAaOElv. And against Td in regard to each of the crafts in specific, what one must say in each case has been set out and published the real craftsman inwriting for anyone who wishes to learn. The sophist is said to be a controversialist, an a&(plo[P3rlTrlTxo6 (232d2), who turns out other controversialists. Indeed, he promises to turn anyone who so wishes into a controversialist who can confound specialists in any field he likes. Surely this is not a good thing.Worse still, the controversialists multiply not only through their tuition but also through the more efficient medium of books, written TeCXvaof almost every kind-for example, Protagoras' on wres tling-which, of course, cannot be at all selective about their audience ...T. (6E6r(oo0icp?va ) 13ovkO'vp [CLetiv). A seventh passage brings us back to something which Xenophon had touched upon, qcpiaS: 7. Euthyd. 304b7 (=13 T 19): So be sure to come with us as a since they say they are able to teach pupil to the two men, anyone who wants to pay and that neither talent nor age would prevent from learning their brand of wisdom quickly-and, what was anyone fellow especially meant for your ears, neither will they prevent anyone from making money. What from the whores of the knowledge Socrates busi separates Xenophon's not ness is the fact that since he does bind himself by taking fees for his tuition, to asso and he in fact chooses Socrates can choose with whom he associates, ciate only with him whom he judges to have a fine nature (Mem. 1.6.13 = 19 T 17: 6vv avyvj ? i(pva ovac). Him Socrates makes his friend and teaches what a ever he can. Now advises Crito, not without in the Euthydemus Socrates touch because ment. practice sure to study with Euthydemus and Dionysodorus can of teach regardless age or natural endow they say they anyone, From here to the end of the dialogue there is a discussion of those who of sarcasm, to be a reference to Isocrates: Crito and Socrates probably to be very careful in choosing a philosophy teacher, just "Don't for "that in know," Socrates, says anyone any job. you the serious are few and life the stupid are many and worthless, "philosophy," that one ought agree as in choosing every line of are just the many everything?... [and in each of the] professions at their professional lines offer the implied work?" laughable (307a). These most people are no and Dionysodorus: rebuttal of the praise of Euthydemus one reason for this is that their at what and do, they major good presumably worth This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching 19 qpolg is not suited to theirwork. Further, one ought not to hire anyone who is not good at his work, so that incompetents should not make money in their professions. Here we arrive again at the elitist position glimpsed earlier. This elitism could easily be an aristocratic one, given that cpUoLgis itsmain criterion: we remember the extraordinary importance of the antithesis between endowment (cpur) and learning in the ideology of aristocratically inclined authors such as Pindar. cIva and cpioit are strongly associated inGreek thoughtwith ancestry and social class. The Platonic Socrates himself gives ample credit to the con nection between noble birth and noble character, e.g., in the opening of the Charmides (155a, 157e), but just as he there insists on testing noble young Charmides' nobility of soul (154el), here too Socrates is not interested in just the pedigree of the pupil. One simple explanation for Socrates' insistence on having students of high caliber may be found in the nature of Socratic dialectic, if we follow the lead about competence given in the Euthydemus. The mark of Socratic dialectic is Te 8o0val xcai 6&escaoc as one something puts forward X6yov two people seek the truth about (Prt. 336cl): a thesis, allowing the other to criticize it or ask for a justification or explanation of it, hoping that the two can eventually agree on it andmove on from there. Agreement must be the result of careful exami nation of the proposal, whereby each participantmust speak his own (cf. Grg. 454cl-5) mind honestly, giving his considered assent only when he is really convinced. When both parties are capable and are properly involved in the such discussion, an agreement can be a basis for knowledge, as well as for further reasoning.72Thus Socrates depends on having qualified partners, for otherwise discussion will be vain. As for other connections of this Socratic "elitism," it is possible that the prejudice of Plato's Sophist against published manuals (passage 6) is to be connected with the warning of the Seventh Letter that Plato's thought will not be found written discussion over a in any handbook, but can be conveyed only association (341c). One can see in that warning down long in a kind of inversion of Socrates' gibe at Dionysodorus and Euthydemus (304a): do not teach crowds, for they will learn quickly and you will be put out of business.73 That system the anti-democratic will fit in with tendencies the elitist desire of not the fact that both Xenophon likely. Despite desire to be able to pick and choose his the Republic and its educational to speak to just anybody is also and Plato are clear on Socrates' students, both of these pupils of 72. Cf. G. Bornkamm, '"OtoXkoyca. Zur Geschichte eines politischen Begriffs," Hermes 71 (1936) 377-85, at 383f. 73. An "esotericist" position is found in the Euthydemus by Th. A. Szlezak, "Sokrates' Spott iiber die Geheimhaltung. Zum Bild des cpl6oo(pog in Platons Euthydemus," AuA 26 (1980) 75 89. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions 20 Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY Socrates also suggest that Socrates conversed with anyone and everyone.74 These suggestions, however, all occur in works with a strong apologetic ten dency, for that is the tone of Xenophon's Socratic works and of Plato's Apol ogy, the only Platonic work containing such a statement. Any elitism on Soc rates' part might have lent support to the charge, unspoken at his trial, that he had been involved in the preparation of young men for the oligarchy of the Thirty.75Xenophon's mention of Socrates' desire to choose his conversation partners, then, will have been designed to bring out the theme of Socratic independence, while his statements that Socrates spoke with andwas available to all will have been designed to emphasize Socrates' civic-mindedness. Plato's Apology is likewise concerned to bring out Socrates' civic-mindedness. In the Republic, on the other hand, not only does Plato's Socrates recommend that dialectical education be reserved only for the guardians proper, i.e., selected members of the soldiery, but he also suggests that dialectic produces a bad result when taught to the young-it ought to be reserved for those of age fifty (538d-540a). The undesirable results of an early exposure to dialectic which the Socrates of the Republic to avoid are just those which wants the Socrates of theApology disclaims responsibility for in his own associates (23c). IV If Socrates his criteria to be able wants for the selection, to choose and how his conversation-partners, what is the choice taken? In the Theaetetus are the Platonic Socrates describes how he goes about selecting his partners: but has debarred me Heaven (6 0e6g) constrains me to be a midwife, nor has any I have no sort of wisdom, from giving birth. So of myself to me as of born the child soul. Those who been ever my discovery frequent my company at first appear, some of them, quite unintelli gent, but, as we go further with our discussions, all who are favored by heaven (oorEQra&v6 0Eso6g CtaeixB) make progress at a rate that seems it is clear that to others as well as to themselves, although surprising me. and from The admirable never learned have many anything they from themselves truths they bring to birth have been discovered by work mine. The and within. But the delivery is heaven's proof (6 0e6g) of this is that many who have not been conscious of my assistance but have made light of me, thinking itwas all their own doing, have left me sooner than they should, whether under others' influence or their own 74. Plato Apol. 29d6, 30a3, 33a8-b3; Xenoph. Cyn. 13.9 = 14 T 2, Mem. 1.1.10, 1.2.60, Apol. 16. Perhaps it is in a similarly apologetic vein that [Plutarch]V. X orat. 837b, after speaking of the fees collected by Isocrates' school and before saying that he hadmore money than any other notes that sophist (837c: aQyur6Qv te oaov o06eiL oocplaTlov ritnarl6orev, cbgxal TQrlgQaoctQxoac), 6e TOLsg Isocrates spoke with whoever wanted to talk to him (cat(&ieL 3oUVkOovoLg). 75. Cf. Aeschines Tim. 173. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching 21 motion, and thenceforward suffered miscarriage of their thoughts through falling into bad company, and they have lost the children of whom I had delivered them by bringing them up badly, caringmore for false phantoms than for the true. And so at last their lack of understand ing has become apparent to themselves and to everyone else. Such a one was Aristides, son of Lysimachus, and there have been many more. When they come back and beg for a renewal of our intercoursewith extravagant protestations, sometimes the divine warning (T6yLyv6otv6v 1ot8aCLpovlov)that comes to me forbids it;with others it is permitted, and these begin again tomake progress. In yet another way thosewho seek my company have the same experience as awoman with child; they suffer greater the pains of labor and, by night and day, are full of distress far than a woman's, and my art has power to bring on these pangs or to allay them. So it fares with these, but there are some, Theaetetus, whose minds, have no need as I judge, have never conceived at all. I see that they and with all good will I seek a match (ntQoktvdtaL) of me for them.Without boasting unduly, I can guess prettywell whose society will profit them. I have arranged many of these matches and with other men of inspired sagacity. (150c-151b, trans.Cornford) Iwould the portrayal of Socrates as midwife, and "the divinity" the role of "the god" (6 0eog) (r6 asso of does of Socrates' the with the any Only god permission some of those who have forsaken Socrates' and when progress, Passing over like to examine 6alp1vLov). ciates make with Prodicus for the moment is prevented Socrates come back and ask to be readmitted, by the company could be The god and the daimonion from renewing the association. daimonion one and the same here; at least that seems likely and was assumed by the author of the Theages (129e -130e), who simplifies the process by speaking of that at each step, including the determination of the daimonion the permission at not all and would do better are some prospective associates "pregnant" that in the Theaetetus the role of But it is noteworthy going to other masters. to as in elsewhere seems the daimonion Plato, be, purely negative: specifically to any action, but only turns him away from it does not counsel Socrates certain actions; it does not cause him to seek out any associate, but only turns role and helps The "god" plays a positive him away from certain candidates. Xci Eyo) ci'LLog;), but even he does along (150d8: Tfg I'VTOL tcaEiag; (6 E0S6 TBE not actually bring Socrates and his associates together. does Socrates come into contact with his How, under these circumstances, daimonion and how does the theos or the monitory associates, prospective r; av 6 one of the "allow" 151a5: (150d4: 0g [To 6CaiL6ov] Ea) aq(eixq, to make progress? in the first place, or, once admitted, students to be admitted Some possess away will, of course, come charisma the magical the free company from although he seems not to can draw the local youths of the sophists, them pay for it of their fellow citizens and make to seek Socrates out, who This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions CLASSICALANTIQUITY 22 into the bargain. ever, also know Volume who Anyone insofar that, has read Plato's Socrates in many 1/April 1985 Socratic dialogues will, how is not sought out by prospective them out, drawn by erotic attraction. as Socrates or their guardians, he seeks companions The hangers-on of the sophists may be called Mem. 273a-b, 303b5, Meno 70a-b; Xenoph. Platonic 4/No. places seems "lovers" (cQarctai: cf. Euthyd. 18 T 1-4), while the to be an erastes and leaves no doubt of 4.62 = his erotic in the young men he associates interest with. In the Theaetetus if not in the midwife/ too, the erotic side of things can be glimpsed, passage birth image itself, then at least in Socrates' statement that he "plays match maker" for those he thinks would do better to study with someone else. The roles of the god and of eros in the selection of companions, though not are found in another Socratic, Aeschines of Sphettus, in present in Xenophon, a fragment from the end of his dialogue Alcibiades, Aelius Aris preserved by tides (De rhetorica 17 = fr. 11a Dittmar). as far as we know it. In this dialogue, Socrates shows the proud young Alcibiades, first, that he is inferior to Themis its arts, but, second, that even Themistocles was undone by a failure of arete which no amount of knowledge could have fore (Erl(maru) own stalled. Alcibiades is convinced of his unworthiness and breaks into tocles in arete and tears.76 At this, Socrates says that although he would have been a fool to think that he could help Alcibiades by virtue of any art, it seems to have been given to him by divine grace to help the youth: 'Ey 6' EtaITOV { UIV TLV Evq to@Qlav ej' s6e6oOat 6VWcOaai vUV xctTEyivcooxoV 'AkXxLL(3a6tv xci 6& d(p?EXioaL OE9a (og jravv oC (YfqV av rjoXXkv VOL TOvTO o06Ev ye TOVTWV6CLOV OuavadaI. a little later Socrates says that although he had no knowledge Presumably to teach Alcibiades, he was nonetheless able, because of the eros he had for the youth, to help by associating with him (ibid. = fr. lic Dittmar): 'Eyd) 6E 68L TOY EgoTa Ov EwTyXavov ?Q;(v 'AkXiPlat6OV O)EV T(v BaxxW(v ?JT?jt6vOtv. .... xai & xLat y?7 o6iEv 6tacpoeov 6 p90YqVtca?ETLoTod?vog 6bdLaUg &avgcoQov )q)EkfCoait' av, 6OWogStqv vvcbv Here av EXEclvp TO\pv 61t( the roles of the divine tus. There some men entities P?XT(I JTOL OlOcat. are somewhat were clearer than in the Theaete to Socrates' refused readmission circle be young cause of the prohibition of the daimonion, while those companions of Socrates were to whom said to make "the god" granted progress. Here in progress Aeschines it seems to be the god's grace (OcL?a to(Qa)77 that either results in or 76. On the interpretation of this dialogue see B. Ehlers, Eine vorplatonische Deutung des sokratischen Eros. Der Dialog Aspasia des SokratikersAischines (Zetemata41;Miinchen 1966) 10 25. 77. On OEIA MOIPA this concept, and OEIA see E. TYXH and Development "The History Berry, down to and including Plato" (Diss. Chicago G. Places, Pindare et Platon (Paris 1949) 149-55. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions of the Concept and i. 1940), of des Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching BLANK: 23 actually is the love Socrates has forAlcibiades, by which he can help the youth. The role of the positive attraction of eros fitswell with Plato's own depiction of Socrates' activity, especially in the Symposium, and Aeschines can perhaps be used to fill in the gaps in the Theaetetus presentation. The theos of the Theaete tuswould not be just the same as the daimonion (as the author of the Theages interpreted them), but would be the godly gift of Socrates. This godly gift allows some of Socrates' associates tomake progress and helps Socrates deliver these associates of admirable truths. The daimonion only turns away those students whom Socrates cannot help. Connecting the theos of the Theaetetus with the theiamoira of Aeschines' Alcibiades enables us to preserve the solely prohibitive character of the daimonion,78 as well as to introduce into the Theaetetus the positive attraction of eros as the unmentioned first stage by which Socrates and his students come together. The distinction between the positive eros and the negative daimonion is, then, blurred only in dialogues of dubious Platonic pedigree. In theGreater Alcibiades, for example, Socrates says that the god had prevented him from associating with Alcibiades previously but that the same god now impelled him to do so (105e4): xT/v 6V[vacltvt; Jtl0VuMclS nrkiv o)06eig Lxavo6g raQ6ovaL oUV OVTILo0 xtal TQiv ?ETl TO 6eo0 [i VTOL. VEoTEQop ,Ev o lv Og i oiol ox,, TooOtUTcu;eXt(6og y7 Ex la O 0eg 6blatCYEa l, lva AR SItdV vfv 6' Expjxev vvV ya6 &v Fov &xooaulg. ta tY aeyoirlYnv. OUT' aIXog eF[oi, This "god"was previously (103a5 f.) referred to as a 6balctt lov evavTicLoa, so it is clear that the daimonion is given a positive role in this dialogue (hepxE).79 Similarly, in the Theages (129e-130e) the daimonion is said to "help along in This is clearly derived from the (cvXUX6(35TaUlr g ovovolag). for the that Socrates and the god are responsible in the Theaetetus the association" statement midwifery (150d8). as the benefactor of the young Alcibiades, portrait of Socrates to which Plato's Theae us a with in the leaves 380s,80 problem perhaps near in it mentions, Corinth 369 which written the battle after tetus, provides or science that an answer. Both passages hold that Socrates had no knowledge Aeschines' written he could Socrates markable teach. The Alcibiades could only testimonial the claim that however, makes of his love for the youth, a re of love but something of a disturbing pros of Aeschines, because help Alcibiades to the power 78. Plato Apol. 31d; Xenophon says the daimonion could advise either for or against an action:Mem. 4.3.12, 4.8.1. Cf. Guthrie (supra n.9) 402-405. 79. Cf. Ehlers (supra in n.76) 21 nn.28, 29. 80. H. Dittmar, Aischines v. Sphettos. Studien zur Literaturgeschichteder Sokratiker. Unter suchungen und Fragmente (Philol. Unters. 21; Berlin 1912) 159, dates the dialogue 394/3-391/90, which H. Thesleff, Studies in Platonic Chronology (Soc. Scient. Fenn., Comm. Hum Litt. 70; Helsinki 1982) 151 n.120, finds too early. Terminus post quem is the pamphlet of Polycrates. Dittmar (pp. 152ff.) argues that theMeno is the terminusante quem, but this is not certain. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions 24 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 pect ifwe must conclude that Socrates can only help those he loves, and those only because he loves them.81The Theaetetus, on the other hand, gives Soc rates an art, the midwife's art, by which he can help those with whom he associates.82 This keeps the metaphor in the sexual sphere, but instead of being the impregnator drawn by eros, Socrates ismerely themidwife, who may be drawn to a youth either by erotic attraction or by the recognition that he is "pregnant." All in all, there are some thingswhich the Socratic literature seems to hold in common and some individual differences in interpretation or presentation of Socrates. This is to be expected when men as varied as Xenophon, Plato, Aeschines, and the ps.-Platones, whoever theywere, are compared. Common to Plato and Xenophon is an apologetic stance which speaks at times of a civic-minded Socrates who gave his company freely to any of his fellow citizens who wanted it. These two authors also have another theme in common, how ever: Socrates must choose only certain people, those of good natural endow ment, to associate with. Common to Plato and Aeschines seems to be the role of eros in forming associations with young men, although the precise roles of eros and daimonion cannot perhaps be fully sorted out. Elitism and eros, then, have surfaced as the selective elements in the Socratics' accounts of Socrates' comradeship and therefore of their presentation of Socrates' quarrel with the sophists' practice of taking fees for the privilege of their company. As for the shadowy, protean master himself, I am not confident of making any determination. The Socratics knew one another and probably knew one another's works, since these were published over something like a sixty-year period. Therefore we cannot simply pick out whatever Socrates' pupils attrib ute to him in common see certain another, things to Socrates himself. We can may refer to or improve upon one and their they portraits of Socrates were compared with and attribute on which points and we know those the Socratics one another in antiquity.83 Further, whatever the pupils of Socrates may say to the Socrates myth,84 one basic they may form what amounts a response from all the Socratics: the indictment and death of and however fact demanded the best man of his time. University of California Los Angeles 81. K. Gaiser, Protreptik und Pardnese bei Platon. Untersuchungen zur Form des platonischen Dialogs (Tubinger Beitr. z. Altertumswiss. 40; Stuttgart 1959) 100f., calls the divine gift "ein ganz und gar untechnischer Zug." 82. M. F. Burnyeat, "SocraticMidwifery, Platonic Inspiration," BICS 24 (1977) 7-16, em phasizes that themidwife image is Plato's innovation. 83. E.g., D.L. 2.64 = Panaetius, fr. 126 van Straaten. Cf. C. W. Miller, Die Kurzdialoge Appendix Platonica (Studia et Testimonia Antiqua 17;Miinchen 1975) 18 n.4. 84. E.g., E. Dupr6el, La Legende Socratique et les sources de Platon (Bruxelles 1922). This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions der BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching 25 TESTIMONIA The following ismeant as a preliminary aid to those interested inworking on the sophists, Socrates, and money. Accordingly, I have tried to cite asmany of the relevant passages as I could. The collection isordered as follows: the individ ual sophists, and also a few natural philosophers, are listed in the order inwhich they occur inDiels-Kranz, but those who do not appear inD.-K. are listed in roughly chronological order; testimonia about Socrates close the collection; all passages dealing mainly with a particular, named individual appear under his name; testimonia concerning wages or money in general are listedunder section 13 (Wages, etc.); wherever a passage is cited inD.-K., a parenthetical reference either to its fragment number or its page location inDie Fragmente der Vorsok ratiker (Zurich/Berlin 196411)will be given; where various testimonia are clearly about the same fact or incident, these are grouped as a, b, etc., of one listing, as is done inD.-K., and the order of citation is chronological; the individual testi monia are listed in alphabetical order by source, except that Platonic passages are cited last, since they are the most numerous. THALES 1 T la Apuleius Flor. 18.31 Helm (11 A 19; I 78.40-79.4): id a se recens inuentum Thales memoratur edocuisse Mandrolytum Prienensem, qui noua et inopinata cognitione impendio delectatus optare iussit, quantam uelletmercedem sibi pro tanto documento rependi. 'satis,' inquit, 'mihifuerit mercedis,' Thales sapiens, 'si id quod a me didicisti, cum proferre ad quospiam coeperis, tibi (non) adsciueris, sed eius inuentime potius quam alium repertorempraedicaris.' b Julianus Or. 3.162.2 Hertl. 1 T 2 Plautus 274-76 Capt. Lindsay: (Tynd.) eugepae! Thalem talento non emamMilesium, nam ad sapientiam huiius (hominis) nimius nugator fuit. ut facete orationem ad seruitutem contulit! PYTHAGORAS 2 T 1 D.L. fr. FHG IV 503; cf. Heracl. Pont., 8.8 Long (ex Sosicratis Diadochis, (VlL ev TO o? bovTOL66bYrg xta P) (3p PEv &v6@TQao6 L6e (cf. 5 T 3). rlg caTaL, oL 6E cpiX6oopoi Trig &XlOeiag. 87 Wehrli2): 7rt?ovicag EMPEDOCLES ZENO Cf. 5 T 3. of Elea 3 T la Plato(?) eimrvV 6bi& T Alc. I 119a Zlvwvog ...d. . eyoo ?( 4; I 248.27-29): (Soc.) T6v 'IaoXo6(o sc.] nIu066coQov [cvvovuaocv (29 A This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions GO xal 26 Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY KauXLcv TO6 KakktXXlov, xaci EA6iyitog Jv ?xdTcEQo ZrvCvL EXCTO6v v&gaS TEXEoag ooqpog TE yEyovEV. b Olympiod. in Plat. Alcib. Mai. 140.7 Creuzer = 91-92 Westerink: &Xk i cplX6ooo(pog 6 ZT1VOv, [tO6Ov ErTQZTTETo;f] q(aCIEvOTL va c (JvEO(orl c TOV ivt;ogaT t o gEOvotSg irOt01xf5 aQ To0gta;O'rLtag xCtaTcgQoveLv Xlt d TYv' ] 1tJr6ocQ(V Xcat[tpMov' 'iva avcaviocLoov JTOLfiorlTalTTrg jTEQtovo(Lag xCti TTTOV yaQ XOa[.tdvEtv ,] iLoTTLta (pvka6r Totig ?X)OVOljraeQX(OV. JTQOO?JTOLFtTO 61b TL, tQoonoLioCaL iLxavog6, 6g xcat 6b a.Lo3d4vtov' TOiO0Tog YaQ jv 6 Zfvvo)v, TOVTO '&ctc(poTEgcSykaooo ' YXO?V .. .xaol EXELg ?X TOV1TOVOTt JYIeCTOC yEyovev tjTET'6?voEv elyE d6tFtoOLav, ZYvwvm nHaTcov o6yxQovog oix etoaTgXTETatL EIo3IQaTTo!PVO) toTo6oUg. &lkk 6ta Ti [(OVT] - (CptkoooCpiLa akXXkv TEXVWVTOPTO jTOLtoloUCo; i?rCLMOl tEVaXoL TCXVlCLTaL ALtoOolg, TOWV &dkXa [toov TXvLTcag, oix TOVg JrQOOLOVT6Lg JTOL1olCL rTcayyeokovTaL &ya0oi0; TEXV TEX OLOV ol0 alTQOi IacTQOVg xal 6l?XV 6 xov 6k cpt06ooocpog dyaet0oi ' clTabv. l 6tyvOovrVFo?oa0ctt a5L xctayyEXXeTacl TOLELvxcd TntUTj XJTixtl YV1 jrOQ ctWLOLcV O ejT? 0) 10Ov 6L6 XCtl KLXQL TOV 6 nhd6TOV dog l L'cwg Vti6EVoV' Ta 6t TavTra joT0Wv xai ooC0'ovTa ?rlUe(jOCOVyLVOs[VWoV. Jt(xQOVTOg 6La6ouoIx, PROTAGORAS 4 T la Plato (80 A Prt. 328b3-c2 6; II 256.32-35): (Soc.) are good at helping others become virtuous] 6 'Qv [i.e., those who Oyboi[taI Eig EVOal,Xac &atpWcovT(Og tav TOV (axCOV avOCXrojV 6ovqlOOaTLva JtQog TO xaXo)v xayaC6o (OTcEXCai y?VEGO(al, xai &ielog TOO [tlOou O6v tjQ6TTOLr(a,xal ETL jtXiovog, j T xaL TOV )O'JTOV clOTC) 5ox?tv TO) FacOvTL. Ai TCa1TCL Ti]g TpECog TO [Lt0o01 Eav ?EV TOLOVTOV EC.O T15g ?t 6TEiV y6g atc' p3OXTVITCL, ltaOdf, TJT?O3OLTLtt' o 6 6& jTaLTTO[aL aXv Ei Co,i; QOV O f, ag dJro6E60)XEv E6X6JOVg dQyUQlov' EYCO) 6OOOvav qGCUtLa ElVa LT"cCl [uaCtcL, TOOOVTOVXCTET0lXE. Eth. Nic. 9.1, 1164a22-26: EiOTL,TOU Fl)v 6clatv 6iE TOTiQOTCtd1 EXE?IVO). QO Xo 6 TO VOOV ] O EOlX' EJXLT?JTELV J7TEOI?E y?TQ JTQOi[LE?VOg Xa43TOg; JTOLELV OTE ytQ 6i&66tLEV d6)]jtOT?, TLtrfloal TOV Oj?tQ (aPoi xaC nHQO)TyoQCa [ac0O6vTa EXEXE?EVO001 b6oxEi &LL( EJtiL(jOToCotL,Xal EXidk6[atv TOOOTOV. EV b Aristotle TO "ttLOog 6' d60X(." @QECaXEl 6' Eviotg ToIg TOLOUTOLg Cf. 8T 1. 4 T 2a Plato Prt. 349a3-6 (80 A 5: II 256.30 f.): (Soc.) o" y' &vacav66v ootiOLTiv ytovouX6oag Eig jrTavTOgTovSgTEXkvag, oecwvTov OjToxYlQUdE[tvog OEaVcTOV, C&dtrqlvargxatl6CUEoog xai &QErjg i6Lt(oxcak, i)TCOTg TOOTOVO ULG(06V&ClcWboag iQvuo0al. (80 A 2; II 255.29 ff.): TO S&Iao0oo JTacQg6OXEV '"EXkkol, Xr&dytca 01) 6Lau)yECoOotXaL Q(TOg EVUQ?, jTIX)TOg 6i 3 ovo6d[o(V, & ydQ Civ 6ajdrv T)oixa.. 07a [IECITTOV' koXldov &oJrna6[tECO TOV b Philostrat. V. sph. 1.10.4 Kayser This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions 27 BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching c D.L. (80 A 9.52 1; II 254.1): o01o0; TQTog taOO86v EioEjU6Qacto tvag exaTov. 4 T 3a Sch. Plat. Resp. 600c Greene (80 A 3; II 255.37 ff.): xai rciQxog k6yovg ECge Xal laoOov rcQaE tOiC; EQLOTLXO'Ug iOrg frtTag tv&gS '. ex quo: rT2958 Adler. b Suda 4 T 4a Quintil. Inst. orat. 3.1.0 (80 B 6; II 266.9-12): Abderites Protagoras, a quo decem milibus denariorum didicisse artem, quam edidit, Euathlus dicitur. 6e JTOT'caXTv &anarloTrvTa TO A?y?tca (80 A 1; II 255.12-14): TOV lto(06v EuacOov "kXk' o06jT(o) vixrlv CLaOrFYv, ?XEi(VOV EiOVTO; V?VLXqlXCa,"E?i[V, "'akk' ?y}7 [1v av? VLXf(OW,OTI Y?7 ?iv(LxYo, XaCP3ev E 6E?' b D.L. Mav 6b? 9.56 au, 6TL au." c Ibid. 9.55 (80 A 1; II 255.4): Book title: ALxri irthQ[i tOov. d Apuleius, Flor. 18.30 (80A 4; II 256.11 f.): eum Protagoran aiunt cum suo sibi discipulo Euathlo mercedem nimis uberem condicione temerariapepigisse, uti sibi turn demum id argenti daret, si primo tirocinio agendi penes iudices uicisset. igiturEuathlus postquam cuncta illa exorabula iudicantium et decipula aduersantium et artificia dicentium uersutus alioquin et ingeniatus ad astutiam facile perdidicit, contentus scire quod concupierat coepit nolle quod pepigerat, sed callide nectendis moris frustrarimagistrum diutuleque nec agere uelle nec reddere, usque dum Protagoras eum ad iudices prouocauit expositaque condi cione, qua docendum receperat, anceps argumentum ambifariam proposuit: 'namsiue ego uicero,' inquit, 'solueremercedem debebis ut condemnatus, seu tu uiceris, nihilo minus reddere debebis ut pactus, quippe qui hanc causamprimam penes iudices uiceris. ita, si uincis, in condicionem incidisti: si uinceris, in dam nationem.' quid quaeris? ratio conclusa iudicibus acriter et inuincibiliteruideba tur. enimuero Euathlus, utpote tantiueteratorisperfectissimus discipulus, biceps illud argumentum retorsit. 'nam si ita est,' inquit, 'neutromodo quod petis debeo. aut enim uinco et iudicio dimittor, aut uincor et pacto absoluor, ex quo non debeo mercedem, si hanc primam causam fuero penes iudicesuictus. itame omni modo liberat, si uincor, e Gellius Noct. f D.L. 9.54 (80 A rloXukvkou, condicio, si uinco, sententia.' att. 5.10.4-16. c 1; II 254.21): xcrl6yoQrloe 6' cTOToVInVO66OQoo ES TWOV TZTQAxoo(LWv' 'AQLtTOT'Xrqg 6' Evao0k6v qCPOLV.(= Aris tot., fr. 67 [Sophistes]Rose). 4 T 5a D.L. 9.54 (80 A 1; II 254.18-20): &vyvwo 6' 'Aijvrlotv ev Tfi EitQLrl60ov oix(ia i, oSg TlVEg,Ev TLMEaYxXki60o' akkol v AvxEi(, ,aorlTov caTC )(g XgoavTog b Plato Prt. 'AQactyoov 311al-5: . .. nTv Ov)covrv To0 ?0Eo6oToV. xaUToaeJl 6', Wbg EyWbrxovoca 'Ijnovixov This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions rnac Kactki TCo 28 Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY c D.L. 9.50 (80 A 1; II 253.20): oVirog xal FnIS6ixog 6 KcEoS hXyov, fcQaVLcovTO avaylvcyoxovTeS 4 T 6a Athen. Bekker Parasiti, p. 296 Kock; 80 A 11, II (= Eupolis, T60 o'Uv TOliUT 6bQaxaTL EitoXTl TOy6 nQrI@oTayo v do< ff.): EV T) 297 6' K6vvw eJTbrl[tOrvTa EiLoC61y (I K), 'Aelt4VcaC; tZQOTreOV 60o ;v TO TiOVc(POVTLorTOV o0 xaCtaQiLtOtf carU6v (I 673 K) i?TEoV 8SiCaXovTi TO)VXgOVyWVJTCaoQay?OVEV. Xoo). M6rkov oiv (og tETCa(LTOUTCOV 5.218bc ev 257.18 b Eupolis Parasiti, fr. 146a ( = D.L 9.50), b ( = Eustath. Od. 1547.53); (80 A 11; II 257.31-33): ?V EO'it l nQtrcTayOQag 6 Til'og Ev6ov 6g cXOtaOVV?UETal[1V dXLTitQLOg XTQi TODV[tTE'Q)go), T 6Fi XoaCLtOv ?o0(?i. Cf. Aristophan., fr. 691 Kassel-Austin 4 T 7 Gellius att. 5.3.7: Noct. sophistarum pecuniam fuit; = 672 Kock insincerus quippe quidem ingentem sed acerrimus philosophus, cum a discipulis acciperet . . . annuam 4 T to Callias) 1.5: (Soc. 'AEl oi EjrlcoxOJLTTElg astg 8 Xenoph. Symp V T? jroXki aGyUQov 686)xaCg Ejri oo0(i HQ@oTayo'a 6Tt oiU xtcroQ@ovov, xoa i xcal xca rFoyL( nIQo6ix( oiog JToXXoig, 6fAg 6' 6oa; am Tov@QyoVgTIvag tg ovrg. TnSg (lXooo)iaS 4 T 9 Plato Hi. Ma. and Prodicus) 282d3-5: TO'cUOV6' ExiTEgQOc (re. Gorgias ' jrXoV aQYUQLOv & oo(L(a;CgE'iQyatoraLL aXog ajyo 6iilOQyO6g; &)'o7 arTivo ETI TOiiTWV xai rQi@OcaYOQcg. TlEvrg' JTrQOTE?Og 8; II 257.3-5): (Soc.) oi6a y'6 a(v6bta Cv(X XQifl[LTa xTrlod(Aeov aXro TCatTrOgTrfg oojacgS (OEl1lavI(1 T)OV xal j?EQgicavOg; xcaXa E&Qy?t lYy6ETo, thXXovg 6exa 4 T 10 Plato Meno 91d2-5 (80 A IQ(LoyToyOav jT?iC TE, 6g oviTo av6QLavTOTrooldv. 4 T 11 Plato (Soc. to Hippocrates, EXEIVOV, jTOtfloL xal o Prt. 310d6: aQyuQolOV XUal jeitE re. Protagoras) Sv." "'v carlv) 6it6g ooc Prt. 315a-b: TOVUtov 6E o'l OrlOOEV ixoXoilV0oo (Soc.) WV TOV 'vwv TO6 JOkV,) 5EVOL XSlyo pl cavovTO-oiVg 7yel ?} ErjaxoVOVTEg ' EXaoTov rTOV r6OXEo) 6 noHQTaQy6O, 6c V, 6?' 6&8 ?'XErT, xrqliov Tqt (ov(] VOVOL-qoc 6? TlVE; OaoJTQ 'Oq)iugs, oi 6E xa'ra Tqrv ()wOVrv'EJTrovT'aXE?Xrl]XkT 12 Plato 4 T xai TO6V EJTtXCL@OV V Tv XO QCO. the position of the sophist) Prt. 316c5-d2: (Protag. describes EV v ; rLOovTa TO)V xal Ta iL; xati L6ov'ta xciyaag (av6be Jt6XEkg ItY6XcLg, yaQ VEO)V TOV;g PCkXTiTOUg djToXCEijrOVT(g Ta;g TOjVaXOCv oJuvoO(Cag, xaci OiXELwOV 4 T 13 Plato ?evov This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching 29 xcil V?OT?QcOV, acoXvrovvivcaL og P[nkTiovg xIc 60oviwv, xcai JQoTf(v QOWV 4 T -nv ?atwovT ovvovolcav, 6it 0ooV?voig 14a Plato Tht. Hn@wcTCy6QCag 'v XQi ?acerilo0ci TO6vrTama jrpcaovTc' to Theod.) Ti ni (Soc. OOTE?xai &akkv 6itboxcaog dttlovoatt 161d8-e3: ooxS, JTOTe, O ?TCtiQE, 6L(xaiog EtTd&[EyatcOv [tiioov( , f?lIg 6E aatCCOeoTQoiL TE Xcai ()OLTP]TOVflitivfly EXELvov, UTQC) OVTI actO ExdoVTcptrig caTOfi oo0()ictg; b Ibid. 178e8-179a3: (Soc. to Theod.) Nfi Aia, rrca' o006?i y' av c)T6a )bC[ikE ' 6btEy?To 6bl6oi;g JToXk &ayUQLOV, Ei [T o5g JODvovTaCgi?rEl?v Onl xal TO l? OVT o L akog ?XkXoV (A?tLVOV xQiv?L?v &v xac 66vELoTV aT? LaVTI Oi;g ?0o?oati fi aTor6 [a/5,']. Cf. 13 T 4, 15a, 8 T 2. GORGIAS ? 'EQ~ljtTog; &E v To) jTf T , TcL, qproi? 'AiovaCig roFoyia(g ?Tcar r ?E?M?6flOE, EV ?acTOV r;g aJT6vrog AE?Xpotg XQ)(Vug Ex6vog, T Li Fo?y( CT6Ov, 'jXEl fli Ov6Oxcak6 XQr iVg roxgy 5 T la Athen. rFoQyiov (FHG III 48) '(g JTroL lolaoJrTal Ty &&avd0?Lv TO01HltCTvog, OT? ?i6Ev ' xca6v r prt FoQylag' yr acL 'ANvcal [xcai] V?ov rTOUtov 'AQXiXoXov ?vrv6xcaOtv.' b Cicero De orat. 3.32.129 (82 A 7; II 274.15): cui [i.e., Grg.] tantus honos habitus 11.505d-e: soli ut ex omnibus a Graecia, Delphis non inaurata statua, sed aurea primus et auream statueretur. c Pliny Nat. hist. 33.24 (82 A 7; II 274.17-19): hominum statuam et solidam LXX circiterOlympiade Gorgias Leontinus Delphis in tem plo posuit sibi. tantus erat docendae artis oratoriae quaestus. TOfU d [Dio] 37.28 Bude: jrokkXa v T'rg ?XOLWjiav iv FroQyicv TOV ELfJT 6tZ ?v A?k(poig EOTavaCl, xacl To'LavUa ?TEco@Qov xail XQVooVV. ooclioTlv e Pausan. 6.17.7-9 A 274.14 II Rocha-Pereira 7; f): xcti r6O A?ovLVOV (82 roQYiciv LSElV (OTLV'&vacOLval ajr6yovog TiLTOg ArqlixQTOvg 6? Trv ?ix6vca Eg'Oku5vrictv cpqoiv Ej[tokjog T rFoyiov. &a6?Xpkq ovvoixlocaVTrog on Delphi: (cf. 10.18.7 ?r(iXuQoog A?OVTLro)V cOi6g FoQyLag o(JiV.) 6&? Eilxdv &avd0Bca roeyiov 'to ?x 'EnJTr JOV 6E xcti Tacig T(rv sph. 1.9.4 (82 A 1; II 277.3): E(' 'EXkkvwtv jTavyrl EQE TO6v K?v koyov Tov niOUtxOv aT6o 'TOVP[O[OffiXrlo?V, oV xai XQgaooVg avE?TOrl, Ev nHvOiov To i[QO. Tro f Philostr., Vit. Oldfather (82 A 4; II 273.6 f): orTog xacl TXvagc xcar oo0cpiCOTEaavToooV'TO TOiSg &aov; xciQE XltniV ?1s0@ xpdTcog 0rITopixdg 6O1TE Xckati6VEv atoO06v acQa TOVFacOrTv Jvaw ag oxccTrv. jT?Q?acXCEV, y b Suda Y 388 Adler xai [Grg. was] 6l66oxackog.... (82 A 2; II 272.31): 5 T 2a Diod. Sic. 12.53.1 'TO 'EXETUrov, 6g aCiTo xcai TrvCoXokXv 'Akxlbaiavrog ?xcaoTov ITd)v 6& atcroT6)v tvaSgQ. iETQaTTr sc.] [6 roQyiag, This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions btE6E6acTO'... Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY 30 5 T 3 Aelian rlv0ayoCEag Var. (31 A 18; I 285.18 f./82 A 9; II 274.35 f.): ?of(Ta fioa0qTo xai E?(pQ?i oTEcpcavov XQvoo0v X?vxinV b A'AxQacyavTivog &Xo@tyEl ?g;XulraTo xca 6 'E[uJ?6oxkig hist. 12.32 Dilts 6 2d6log xoti avaugvi6cag. S63TONibacl XCtXxoLg. 'InT(av 6LoQQELXoyog. 5 T 4 Aristot. Sph. ieQOTiJXOVg Xoyoug 6&?xai roQgyiv ?yvJTOQpVQoag Eo0hOil (82 B 14; II 304.4): 6i(oitc Tig riV tOCtlaQVO3VTWOV el. 183b36 TQoilEvaL xai yaQ TOv JTEyQLTOVg Tr rFoQyy(o JTCCL6iLEVotg JxTQy[tcaTELg. 5 T 5 Athen. 12.548c-d (82A 11; II 275.12-16): [aboutGorgias Clearchus says TO6oc(OpQvog w( in his eighth book of Lives (FHG II 308)] OTl 6i fiv oXE)(?6 Q' a1TOV TLiV6LoLSii XQg)E?Vog iT' Tt C(POVELVOVV?EP3i)0EV. Xal ?iJ? TLg @QETO TLEt?aiot0o?oE)g TOOOvTOV XQOVOV Iflo??EV, 'o&6EV OVoTCO ?ET[t?EX5g xai & ?V?X?V ? 6i 0 BVa6VTLOg IV T?ETClQT jX)XOT?0,3t, 6?vv, E6OVcg jrdctg.' AqST1lOg 0 TL( C aOTC yY?yov?v Foy( JIf?Ql noirTw o, 6poIV, AEovTivog ?w)TYig rocygla akrX?( T6CVQ' ITOV, ?cprT 'T6 f]1?V J(OT7OTzE f?TEQOV EVEXEV aiTLOV TOV LO6C(Jal JTEJTolmxEVCLt.' (?T?0Qou is disputed; cf. D.-K. II 275 ad 16.) 6 86 jXkirrTca 5 T 6 Isoc. Antid. 15.155 f. Mathieu (82 A 18; II 276.10-17): w Ov QC , A6?(TovTi FoQyct i oviv, agtg QLTg ro0ryO XTnyodJt?vog [tvqrlV?Cov, TCOVEXoXvvov ijactv, jrX.aoTOV 6i ?V Jt?EQi?OTTaXiav, OT' E?06aiv?oOVEOTQTOL TOVTOVYEVO6EVOS, JTO6lV 6 XcQvoV xal ltoiS xoal JT?EL It XQTCaICLTLtODiOV o6E o06dEtiav xaTacToayico oitxloat JTEiQTcaxoiva 6baJavrlOEi g 0o6' EaopoQtav ETL ? JTQOg TOVTOIg OVTI yUvaLxacY [itg OiiTE IoJE?V?7yELV&avyxcao1fig, jai&acg JTOLYoatE?vog caX' a&'CT?g YEv6rLvog xaoi TavtT;rg r;g knTovQyia g rl; xal JtO6g T6rjkrX) j3rokvTE?k;TacTlg, TooOVTOV jrtoXa4oV ?EV6kX?ECOTCdTYlg xro(JwaoOa TOV calXov, XlkioiSg ~Wvovg oCaTftLag X;(XT?XIJC?V. V. sph. 1.13: Hdloov &6, TOV 'AxQcayavtcivov, rogy(lag O(cpLcTi TtOV xai ( 6 KCai CpcaXoL, toTOVUVOTC)V yTJiO?XXV, g XQ@VaTcov. EE?iOh?l?E Y'LaQ 5 T 7 Philostr. rIo, og. Cf. Dio 54.1 Bude. 5 T 8 Xenoph. Anab. 2.6.16 (82A 15; II 273.24 ff.): lQ6oEvog&E6 BOLCTlog avrVQ Ta [Eiyd(XkaYJUTT?LV ixaCvog' CIV EITE&[OL yEv?aGoL & -uiOg WV [?WLtQXLOV a xai b6L TatTVTr Vir Va3TLO v i6(orow TO A?OVT(lV. yix aFy6Qlov 5 T 9a Plato Apol. 'AXX& y?Q OTE TOUTCOV 066?V E?OTLV, 1066 y' E'i 19el-20a2: xOci x qLx[taT i?y( JtacL86?V?V EJtiX;L?iQCO &vOdtOUg TIVOg Cxrxo6aT? c(g TOUTO yfE?Ft 6boxi xactXv Eval1, ?i JTQCTTO[tCa, 06?i TOIOTO aXrjO?g. ?itei xcai TE 6 A?ovTiVOC xat jical6?U?IEv a&vOQdirovg 6otunE? rFoQyig Tig o065 T' It 6 KsLog xaci 'Iaiar( 6 'H.Xsog. TOnUTOV cb aivbQE, oi6g yCaQ?xacnro, HQo6ixog T' EoTiV iLWvE;g?iXcdraTl TCOV jt6X?Ov Toig vfovg--oig E??ETt TOV Ec?ITdOV This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching av ioU(3XVTal-TOmVOUg JTokLTOV JTQOLXaOVVEwval(c ovvovoTicag JQooEL6Evai. a rokit6ovtag 31 o(cov owevval 7I0oV Ol Tag EXELVOw 6o66VTag xal XdQLt X)(iflcTa ex quo: b [Plato] Thg. 127e8-128a4. 5 T 10 Plato Grg. 447a-b: (Callicles) ... nokkX6y6g xal xactX FoQy(ag I[trv 6Lkyov jQO6TeQOv ?eb6eicaTo. Jut6eiEcTat fFlTy, E ?V O0xoOv orTv (Chaerepho) cpiXog y6@Q tOL FoQyiag, 6'ot' oxeL, vvy, fav 6? (3oVXi|,eig cLa6lS. (Callicles) 3oU'XY0oE MaQc ?? xaT(XhjeI xaai EC1t6e?TaL ' YXElV oixa6e' tac' Etol y6o rFoyiag 1fi[V. T yaQ ouTiog6 Aeov-ivog 5 T 11 Plato Hi. Ma. 282b4-9: (Soc.) ... FroQyiacg odxoEv oo(pLOT'Sg 8e3Qo aqlpxeTo XQreo[l3wov, (og ixavCTaCTog Av 6iqoo/,a T TE Ta ev xai O) 6t(p xolva 7JTQTTELV, AeovTivwv e6o^ev aLgoTa ElneTv, xaCi JOtoIOu CVOg xal oVVWV TO1g vEog X1(Qf1WeatajoTXS 'YlQyToauto i6i'a E3tl6EiEtg xcai E.otev x ro&E ijS r6teoS' Cf. 4 T 8, 13, 13 T 4, 15. PRODICUS 6 T la Plato Crat. 384b2-6 (84A 11; II 310.27-31): (Soc.) ei VVov ybV /6r TIrv nevT}lxovTadQaX)tov YV &XOV(0aVTL EoJTi6tELLV, ( o OE OL, XELVOg, i6v XEVOa, P)OLV CXVEXdV qYIV ^jdZQ)(XELJTEQ TOt1TO eoTCOa i VV 6& oix at&ca ei6vab trv &akOELCv JtEg 6vopdTcv 6OQ06tOTto' a&tixa xT'XXOYI J'TaL nQo6txou axixoa, aXX&T"iv8QaXCliav. b Aristot. Rhet. 3.14, 1415b15 (84A 12; II 310.34 f.): TOlto b' fOVtiv,anoTEQ ?qprq nH6Ixog, OTE VVOTazOLEV Ol aXQoaQTi, 7iaQEF[t kkeXXv rig 7tEnVTdxovTaGdX[0ov a:otsg. 6 T 2 Philostr. V. Sph. 1.1: n'Qo6ixc Tp) Kicp oUvvEYEyajrTr TTg oix &a6!g ? xai yvvctxIwv, iaQceQTr q xaxia okyog' qpocaLTcajl acQa TO6 'HQaxXc a ev EiE xaii 3JQoTivouoat oTnaLXp?vat, i pU?V &7i;Catq) TExCati 7tXItO)p, if 6? dg EcTVXEV, , 86EaCXwp6v xai Jovovg, XCa To) 'HQgaxei vEp ?TLI, I P?V Q@yiav xai ,TxpTQujv, TOD ECti ja6tl E4J1ttOOV EjTLSE1LV &L&i?ELdOVWV oUVTE0EVTOg TOV hkyov X TO aTdcO TOV 'OQpeosg TExai nI 66Ixog, TT& xai XyoWv eJtOlELTO 7EQ;LPOLT)V WaY JTXEL6vCOV 86 OaJjVUQOu TQO6OV, qp' oig [EydaXwv iWv t1ioOt0o jtQta O?r3atiogl, na ca AcaxeMaLIovioLg, 6 T 3 Ibid. 1.12: TOV VEYcoavatL&ioxov (bg eg TO oVcpEg1fQOV 'AviXvUE 6e b ouTog TOUSgEUtati6tag t TIOVPa[cowv o'ixwv, dog xai tQOe:voVug EXThooaThaLTrlg s TE yUQ TTT;)v eOYXavE xcal f6ovacg ?6&E6XEI. Cf. Dio Tr;cta. tOVvEcov xcal toUg EX g ficQag, 54.1 Bude. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions XQprdtcov 32 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY 6 T 4a Plato Hi. Ma. Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 (84 A 3; II 309.16-19): Ex K?E:o ?y0WvT' ?vY 6rtooa(a I EvcyXog a&qCtXO[tvog xal v?oL xal TOL; i6i8a n'l6ELs?i; jotlOV[tvo; 0BaucaoTa ooa. b Idem Prt. 282c4-6 315c-d (84 A 2; II 309.8 (Soc.) &T&a T& TXEvT?a(xI 3ovuXkl r6vv r56ox([turla vV oUdV XiTgCtaTa ?Xa?3EV f.):... ?J?6iF[t?EL y6a &act xai ... fi068txog c [Plato] Axioch. EJTL6llV 366c6:... rctaaKakkuxi Tw 'IJTovixov jotoLVLEvoc . 6 T 5 [Plato] Axioch. 366c: (Soc.) xaui rTafta 6{ & y?co, ngo6ixov EOarv TOV T ? , XE , ioV ta 86L1oi(ov lOVEVCa 86 6UOlV [v oo(pfOVa&nrlXflti 6GQacX(aLV,Txa Tar avQ o6?va 6? Stl tQoixac yaQ ovTo; JrcVTOC ?00o cb6i6&oxEt, trtQgoa6gdXaovi. ?OTriVaTr0c cpwovV TO 'EtlX&alg[Lo, "C 6? XQit TlV XELQaVy(?E'" V TOV Xhyov, ?cprqv ?7yc, jrY',v 6 T 6 [Plato] Eryx. 397c6-d2: ToUTovi I?o Avxdco a&v/\Q aoqpSg ?oywv n1O6&xog 6 KsEog i66xEL roi g caQovUoAi(kvalv )(OTE[tL6Eva &6vacOcL &a.; Q XHyeL. jroa ol TOV JrQovTov dog oiUTcg, ?v Cf. a possible mention of Prodicus' name in Eupolis Caprae, fr. 17 Kock (codd.: See Prodamos). also 1 T 5c, 8, 9, 5 T 9a, 13 T 15a, 18 T 2. THRASYMACHUS 7 T 1 Plato Phdr. 266c2-5: (Soc.) q TOVTO EX}sv6oaTtv TXVr, fT kOcywov Oo)QcaCaUtXaog t? xcit o &XXoil XQd)?atVO1t0o)OL PEV c01TOi k4YEtv YEy6vctav, (&XovU TE jrolOuoLV, odl v 68wQO)OQElv caitrof; dg 3CL laot?Cov ?hEXotJLv; 7 T 2 Idem Resp. 337d6-b7: 'H6&v y\Q Ei, (Soc. and Glauco persuade Thrasy.) TO) ... xal E(P' &aXa&JTo iacOv a6ou6Tcloov &QyLOov. O0xo6v t01 Tal, LZjov. Y?vOL ?j?tEI6&V cb OcQaoa?x[t 'AXX' i?OTIV, i?(r 6 r'Xucxcov. &aX' ?V?sxa 675yv(0ov, , Xy' (oxQaT ravTgs yaQ I[tA?6LE ELaoo0oo0[V. ... T. EI?k?V V 86? o?v)XcOQY?V, Xa7T?lTa, AiTtr 6iq, s?q), # coxQarTOvg oo4ia' I v xca ?9? OXk?Lv 68b6dloxLV, jcaQa 6? TOV aXXcv actOToVPEv ?tQlL6vcT [avOuv?EO TOV.TO)VAtrl6?xCaQv a&o6tL66vat. TOV aXko, t ?sg, d jv 6' ?Y?O, iacvO6dvo jacaT &Xrri "OTtl ?V, OTL V ?XTIVO 6? [ie 4t lg XdQlv E?XTV?lV, 4?pJ61]' OQacTuax?c, yacQ 6o"v 6vvacaCl. ? E vaLE v 6vvacaLc ?&a{ vovOV' Xg1q[aT y@Q O1X )X(co. HIPPIAS (Hi.) jnoXXLxg; v o3v xai Ei;g&akXckgjE6XSk jkXroTa 6? xatl jQL iS; rqV JtilTXco)V XCual [t?YOTOV ?JTQE?o?ivoc, 6 Ou &, oG 686 TOVo6? ;o 0Eis AaxE6ai(ova' t(tWo g ro;g Tozov;. (Soc.) E(oTrg, TE Xal TEkELOVav6y a ToLofTov I?VTO1,d 'IJTJTia, ?oJT TOTr &kralO(9 oojV 8 T 1 Plato Hi. Ma. 281bl-8: XaQ iata Lval. oa yaQ xcai 61(x ixcalXvg EL taCQa TOV VEOV 3TokkX v otvo 6 xati rtooat do()?EELV 0jV Ca 6auTo kau[t3dv?L, tE.(cw This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions XcaF,6kav(v i?TL OX tv ixavog 33 BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching COoJTEQ E@EQYETELV, XQ>1 TOV [EUkovTc EV Toi; JTOUXo;. 8 T 2 Ibid. 282d7-e8 aUI xcaTaMQvooE0acL (86 A 7; II 327.37-328.5): ak.' '06OXoLtEOeLV (Hi.) ELy& SEiEilg6oov &ayQQLOv E'Qyaco(acl Eyd, Ouadtoa lg av' xTal ta6 PIV aXta E, a()4LXO6[vog 6e rTOTEELSXLeXlCa,, neQWTCaYOQOVa0t6O0 EJTL6r8q[oLvTo0; xaMtEboxilto0vTog xai Ov EV Jrav ov jtokv tvu VeO)TEQOg JtQEoPvtixeQo ovTOog 6oX1y? X6ovcp f0 ?v6Og ys XWQiov nJTadv I[vag Qyat6[odaqv, xcti ? tXtov f Esixocol tvaS' xalt TOVTO EXko0v o'txa6e (4?Qwv TO) TE xai O)TE? ?XELVOV xal TOVi acXouI 1toXiTa; caluae?Iv JTevTilxovTC xca o([LXQOV, 'Ivvxof, Exacxv JTaTQL E6 c)xct, Ext?TjTXklX0aL. xal oXE)66v TL oialt?WR oav6uo oijoOTLVg P0OVZel TOV ooo(JITIV. Lc Eil@Y?600t jTigEL(oXaUTct &cXoug FneRicTa 6b 'EXkovv sph. 1.11 (86 A 2; II 327.3-8): cT xacTE'kvouE TqV eavnouTo 66ov ob0acto nT'g "'HXikI b6tiq jTQEopECaocag JTfEQ e xcai TE &Xa xal xQT e~aEJeXE, oTca Xqctaa (vXkai; xai vog, YOQCV 8lX?k6EYE . EVEy-O)Yq Jt6kXEcov[t1XQOv TE xai [tEovwcov [jcaQXOkh xai Eg;rIv 'Ivvxov JTE@Q 8 T 3 Philostr. XQrlgLT(cov, TO V. S jroXkXVlOv TOVTOEIXEXlXOl ELtoV, oig 6 nHkdaTV TO rFoQyi FrL(Jax)jtTEL.] Cf. Dio 54.1 Bude. 8 T 4 Plato Hi. Ma. 283b4-cl: (Soc.) ro6E 6E otL EirE, o)v auCo6g J6o0Ev Tt1ELTOV JOXEOVEiSaS6 &a()Lxv; q| 6qXov OTl EX aQyQLtov nQYV?o) TWOV oLJTE xai Aaxc6ati(ovog, YowxQacTEg. (Soc.) Hioog pg; JTXElOT6xtg at)iaIL; (Hi.) aXX' EX6l(Toov; (Hi.) Oi6v G R\V O( it. OV 6 A(Ca, W V TO JTcaxatcav JtC010JTOTE. in Sparta of his version of his performance (Hi. describes TOVTOV6i xal EXEI EjTE6EL6tau]v of Nestor and Neoptolemus) ' Vcv, cEVT cIE)60GTQaTO xai EV0a6dE U?Xw E;Ti6LEXVuvca Eig TQL'TYV#t a jToXX xati aeila axorlg' xtal ov Ei6&xog 6 60ri y'60 a&X, b8atoxatkip, 8 T 5 Ibid. 286b4-6: the conversation 'AJrl|S6.vTov. yaQ av EIY], o dMxQacTES,EI (Hi.) AioxQov v caTa 6 TM TcacTa xca mToa .?id ctt6L8E0 X WlacTa kat[TvtELvT, a.Xov;g l. L V vyyvwL[tqv T' EiXO[lU xCal J3Qtac0 WoCTOg 8E 13T6 oou EQ@o'T(coLvaEVog 8 T 6 Plato Hi. Min. 364d3-6: &ajoxLgvoi(qv. oov qxouov [EyaUXctLXoouVOV, (Soc.) Ey;O JOTCEl xaci ooq4av tTqkwoTrvoaoITOJ 6&ELO6vTog EV&ayoQa E; TCaITIQajEtatIg. 8 T 7 Ibid. 368b3-5: Cf. JtoXX.k 5 T 3, 9a. ANTIPHO fr. 103 Kock): xctaOdjTETCL 59 (prob. = Plato Comicus, Pisandr., Tra 8ElVOV 6' TOu xcti k6yovg xccTCaTOV 6LxavLtxc 'AvTLqicV'Tog ;g x(0[t()6l JtOkXOV X)QTp[dLTwv. ibxatov ^ovyxEiLEvo0;g atrob6bovoR 9 T 1 Eudocia This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions 34 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 9 T 2 fr. Pisandr., V HIELodv6Qcp. V. X Comicus orat. (=Plato [Plut.] & 6e it5O Sg (ptaQyVU(aV IndoTcVOg; XExotC6qrTaL 103 Kock): EUTHYDEMUS and DIONYSODORUS ev 6oztolS y&Q aOTW te oo(xb 10 T 1 Plato Euthyd. 271d3: (Soc.) io06v, 0(LooTE j;olf]Oal Dx-eoOacl xal a&Xov, os av 6168L 10 T 2 Xenoph. Mem. 3.1.11. &v ya6Q eToTqrtal xai CtTavalMiL6g ,n, zravv caoXvvEllTU &aQgQlov EiXqrxbg?v6e oEa&rojtrc:Itpao0al POLUS 11 T 1 Philostr. V. sph. 1.13: Kct y&a 6&r xai c TOV JtrXoiTOiOVV 6 FHiXog. 11 T 2 [Plato] Thg. 127e8-128a4 (mention of Polus is added in this version of = 5 T 9a): 'EOTtV Evrai0a Plato Apol. 19e-20a xai nHQ66xog 6 KELog xac 6 6 xact xcal akol JTokXoi, di oVTo) AEovTi~vog Hboog 'AxQaycavtivog roQyiag TOV OV OO(OL oLi(V (JOTE vEov T0CEV; Jreou Troug yEvvcilOTcLO E?ig rCg JT6X?g L6OVg Tc xcal JkXoVoaoLWTdTOVSg-oLg?OTLVTV TtoVXoTlOv 0 &v fovXCovtCaC jQoixa Ti?00ovoiv actToig cTroXkEiJToVTcgMrg EXEiov ovvovoatS io JTCvU xcai 06v, JTXOkXi) 3TQooxaTaTtL0E?VTCag yUQlov )d6Qv JQog ciVVElval-TO:TiOV; ovviEvaCl, TOlTOLg EiG Vc?L. Cf. Dio 54.1 Bud6, Liban. Decl. 1.1.22. EUENUS PARIUS Cf. Plato Apol. 20ab = 13 T 16. CHAEREPHO Plat. Apol. 20e: XactLqxv'. . . ouxoqxpTvTqr xal x6Xac, rv e? JtQLovLav xXmJtTn;g xaci ac(XTqg6;, T;ErT]g. . . v ... 68 Tekfolaoev0lov ei ovxocpWavTrv a&Jooxd)JrT?E (fr. 552 12 T 1 Sch. Arethae Jo 6E xal 'AQgoloqxvqg Kassel-Austin = 539 Kock)' KQarivog Hntivn (fr. 202 Kock) ig;acXlq6v xvqrTa'Ec 6' ?V Ko6Xatv ioXlg 'ALoToqxpvrqg 6' ev 6Qd[iaol (fr. xhJrlv 165 Kock) Kctakioi . . . (fr. 295 Kassel-Austin WAGES (IctoO6;, yaQyuOov, XXvoRov,Xatvta 13 T 1 Alciphro 1.34.3:... xai x6okxakcytl, = 291 Kock). xak o, og,ejQog) oe y6Q njegQL36tXkovoCa xoljataOcat dXov eP3oovuh6rtv q TO JtCaQa jt6avT0v TOlV ooq0lTo)V XQUO(oV. (Thais is writing to Euthydemus.) 13 T 2 Aristot. cQeaxel EVLOLSg Eth. Nic. 9.1, 1164a27-b6 TO "'ol06gC 6' av6Qi. ." 6Eo (post 4 T lb): ev toiL TOLoUTOLt6' TOa&QuQLOV, ELTa TQtoX aotvovTeg This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching 35 TOV at dOV 4cacv 6ix T&g EC reQ ElXCTOg Ev 3odg; acyyeX1v, otoiovTeV(;yg TO a& TO 6' L'ocowgjOte *i4okOyT1oav. Eyx.lcFaol yivovTaL' 0o ygQ EtltTeokoV o0 oo04loTai &vayxdCovTaC 6L&dTO6 rlOva (.v 6ovaCl &C@yUQov (i)v ei(rTavati. irqOev v J . oVov TO'v imoO6v, [JT OLOVTEe eix6Tog Ev EyxfiCaloiv OrTOLRiv Oe E Ol g'v 61' oacro1OU EV 6 [1t EL(LV. oMg YLveTaC 6LOto0X0oyL 'Ct jg 6ov?QYLcLg, ' y6Q xaT' JTQOiLEE?VOt Ei?QTCal OTI avEdyxtVYXkT (ToLaiTnl &@Qer/v >lXica), TrIv TE JtOlorTEOVxCLa TrV 7TQoaiQE(ol (ClitorI y&Q TO) qi)koU xaci nrj &ao0Pv aQeTlg)' X^a60lC' ixavov, 0u yagQ jTg OviOTW6' EOlxe xcal TOLg ()tkXoOO(iLca XOLVWVo)loCOITV' 1 a ia av T' g OiX &a''locog [teT@QE'TaL,TLirj lo6QQgOTO yE:VOLTO, xae6jEQt xaci JQOg 0eoog xati xjr6 yoveig, TO6?v6EX6tvov. 13 T 3 Idem. Sph. el. 165a22 (D.-K. 79.3; II 253.12): 6 ooqto-r'igXQrlMaTlOTrlg aro oocplg &a XX' oOx oiurg. cpalvopevr;g 13 T 4 Athen. Oauvploog xal BXkpiag oocpLagS[rQ o'x eXel erog &aa acYrTaS&g6 iaaC[aoxoaovg Ex tkofTiov an&qv?yxaTo TOooitov Tg; xctkfrg TauTig : xcal rIQ@orTay6 v. 3.113de: roQy(iav Tr 6e eoQ@rDTOV fr. 1 Kock): Comastae, (= Eubulid. TE TolC xe al LtAEjreoOatl ?oTiv 'Aivlol 6&Qoa TOig [o{lofig V t yv0LOtov;g, O5g cpIoCTi ooqpLotClg, o'iLeQ xoa aoTo0 ouvexX.ouv )xV ELvla oV'Ug 6 6laCkeEXTLXogEv 6QU6acTLKo)watoTlLg oi6tcog Ei,3ovX(6irg 13 T 5 Ibid. XoCov 10.437d e og aLxtoT'e, xa XoOv 6EY] oocploTltag, ev Tqi. TCOV tLo0o6M)(Wo, o3x a&6eiyvoy Ev 13 T 6 Suda X471Adler (= Eupolis Caprae, fr. 4 Kock): av Xf. Ey7) TeX? TO6Vlao06v OVTlLV' 13 T 7 Euripid. Hec. 814-19: ?V fiaC[WatC ti 6jTa OvrlTol takXa (Hec.) otOXOo(0)eVW(g XNP JrCavTaxaCiLaTeUOtoEV, nlet0(b 6e rrjv TUQavvov davOxr0noLSgPiOVvl o6MEv Tl IkaXov Eg TEXkogO7OV)6afdOtev UlloGoUg 6166vTEg CavOavdvev, Lv' iv JtOTE 0' &iCa; & Tig Polu'kOTO TY'ryXaVELV tEEltOEV v T0U 6i6acoxdXovg sph. 13.3: xal TTxlXOIUTovVaycOa catlof aTVTe0 TQ ox TQEiL [vag OTEQ aioxvvovTac ETLg LxLaQatg xaLaCTqU 13 T 8 Isoc. Contra xal xgQiovg TOVUTcVaicLTof1 g' 13 T 9 Ibid. 4-6: xal 5og o06Ev 6EovTal XQlTgtaTTov,acQYvQiL6ov xaci XQuoi6tov JkOVTov &UtoxaX.OVVTeg, ?IXQOoV6e xEQ6ovg OQey6OEvoL kovov o01x aOlavdltog 6jTLoXvof)VTaL ToUg o(vovVaCg nOtiMOELv.6E 3&6 avTov vbeV6 ac(3v Qa R v aiLtotr, TO1'TOLg pev OTl jraC xaTCayeXaotoTacTov, WOV 6' TrV , UkXOVol o006Er80ToTE jTCxaQaCa6() 6tlxactLoauv CtxlOr;OVIV, oSg X?yovoUl pv, TOV 6Lidoxahot yEyovaoL, TraQa ToUTOg Ta CtaQa TOV ItaRToV This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions ECTEyyUOi)VTCal, CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY 36 Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 TlTV doqXpdXeav ? JQaTlTOVTEg. toiUg [V y7&Q Lko jrQOg iv TI)V 6LIatEQOVTWo' O156e dvavTiLc fpOVvXe6?tCvot, TO) 6' ertayyEXacTL T' Tl nacl6eovTCag ITQOoCXEl6ClaXQL(30UOllat IT?Q y? Q xohjeL Toigs JTEQL ETEP 6eLvoU g y ?vop voVg [I Trou; 6&T\v dQ?ElTv xai Tr\V oCo(pgQOauvrv TreQiTr ovTi36kaa' Ta naLoT?ucEtv;O0 ox oL T S acTah adakoL gd rS OTl [oi Evegyacopgvovg &Xoy6v uog ? JOV TOV xoakol xcycafo xoal SixaLtol teQi toTOVoV y?Q 6MI EQgi cd akkovug OVCEg I yFyOVotlV. EaTccaQtTooVTac , 61' oVg TOLOUTOt XQgaoroT;u dEval o'v TMiV i6lw)TWV TLVEg WTaCTaM TaCIa 'Er?i6av M v E'6CaLFtoviav xaCi (Jo7VkoYtoa(evoL XaTL6O(JL TOV5gTqv ooQplav 6b6dloovtCag T? 7roXXdv 6?0so vorV xal Tolu rtaQa6tt66OvTag aitzoOv [taYlfT&ag [ittxov 13 T Ibid. 10 7: @gatTTO[vovu 13 T 11 Ibid. 9: O O! ovov xeai TOLSTogs -TOXkLTXOVg 68 ToiJtolg akk k6yovg EXeLVOL xaL ?jLTLTL]aiCLL' [Wlv dkXefCiag of6bv 7tloXVOVuCVOLgO&l~ov y\Q TI!g co TOUT' ]V TCEXVV, al CXEiOToV mrj CLv TV (pQovTiLOoviLV, ily7OVTal 6? V x T) Aet i TO ILXOT'TlI TWOV EY EJTCaYYEkl[tTCOV [tLy IfoOV ,rQooaY(dYovt1L XCal ct0Ov 8uvVYic0lv' Xap3ev tl oTaQ' o06elg C5QEGhoeTai TOOVxatkovL?vcov oocplLOTVv V v 6iyog, & 6'oi oi ' v jTv i? TQgilOI jokkX XL(ttlarcT ovkkXX?d6vog , TOV Liov 8laycOVTE5g' 13 T 12 Idem Antid. 13 T 13a ootiOfj Ibid. 15.155: 219f.: o[ait yQ6 &6jino TOVTO y?E AUVTcagylYVOOOX?LV,OTL r a tY]T:ov aOTI xal Tvi?g xOkoil ytLoTog, ,fV TOV [AliaO6g xc6itoLrg ToaQa XCal (pQOVVL[tO YEVoVTal Xal Xayactol TO;g zjTxokitlg e6oxioaOVTeg' 6 TrOV ev0ev65E XrY[tiTowv dTe((XO6(r]V, jZrcaQ eVcov VO[tlOVTWV eCUjAtoXEV EOQLJtod[t1]V Tr.g (TcpEEiag. b Ibid. 13 T [1V 164: 14 Sch. 616daxaXotl Aristoph. yovTeg, Nub. EarTTov 876: xaoTOl TXacdvTov: '&LOJTOTzro ovTal Tooo60e oi? kctt(3dtvoo Teri 'TOVTO) xai oil T1 avayvcoJtacTL. e dkk' 1'tEit 23.286bc Norman: To 6Ov6O[a'rog OioJxE@ e 9 xcT o5 [ETE:TEO?V ij 6vct[vig OV T\6voug, \ro;g oTegov Ed OV vo[ioLctTog VoE~lO~at05 ?18EJ8VCE(7 62VY~a~lS Xa~ltCIX 10V5~jVA~T6Q XQQOVOV, 6 xal roQyioa; 6 T? aTOf[otq l[cpLO3f1TEl xal IQ66ixog Keiog nroTayoQQag 13 T 15a Themistius 01 WoxTEQ C&ko Tl TOOV Ivlov XQ1rl]ICTwvexvQUTTOV Trrv ooCplav xai EtgQaTTOVTO jToXk &yQtQLOV TOUg :TQooYcpoLTovTag, EXELoEOv 6rjrovU ?EXOLEV AeovtlVog, TO1VO[iat xoa Ol vUv EtiE EiLoXolTTOVTEsg. TOEirTcaQxev 6eo?0voLg... TO[g 6[itXrlTag w&tXog QOV OTgeC3ov...V . . . CaTC OiU' EXELVO TE kEVeOeQLb'TeCOV xal [tEyaXkojQECtEoTEO xaOt' actTo &tLEUialvov oiTe T66E, &dXX&T068E v o08sr6Tor0oTe CQeTflg Or][EulOV, X t Xcal &kkXX qcptoxeQ6o1g llpv(Xg Xal a'TEXvog oo(pOLOTLXlgxat Qac(OlXQT[tadTOV b Egaioou. Ibid. 289c: . . c Ibid. 289d: TO yC@Q saT6i?ag &QyuVXoyeilV :ja o T6OV ?Cp' oTOq)6 oaG)(q(jia'TL TOU V(Cov TE XXal IXOVOl(Joi(V,TOUTO eLVai (pr]lO oocpLtGTV 6 JTQWoTOOTaTT1g* This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching xacarTXo6yo TOV oyov "Ixxov T6v yvI[vacYorv caL6TOv6LEocTqoato. TOUTOU oV6E TO' 2XrIutPQlaCv6v 'Hci56xov T6v TCQCavTTvov o06e TOV6v6aTog xal6oT(TQLrV Wpirl eival JIX-LTOv E'' ovs 37 oTL eXQTrltccrtTovTo do6 ... . . TC)V VECov. [*Cf. A. o. . .vc. . ooto oc. po H. Kan, Xa "Ad Themistium Observatiunculae," Mnem. ser. 3, 13 (1947) 235.] 13 T 16 Plato Apol. XlTrAaCLa ool(4)LTog 20a4-cl: jIXeia)f1 TOUzoVOVVavrWQ06[tV-E-rOV Yg Kt6: v oov :rQoo(eXO)v &v6QL 605 TETEXEXE KaoXiXa TO 'IJTJTovixov ETuXov ytQ ol a&Xol, UjrTavlEg 610oWei- "%2Q KCaXikk,"fv 6' Y76, ??YEVE(o0rv, EiXO(Vte vCVaToLv ejTLOTrdTrl kXaf3iv xal iLLOOcooao0at 65g tEXIeEv aTOtT xaoX%; T?Ex&yaCOW tOf(ioeJlv TrVI VUV TQoaocqxooCav CQE?Tv, flv 6' dv 01Tog; TOV LJCJxOV TLg ] TV YEO)QYLXO)v' "ei TO) i d Jr.OXO)c fj [6oXO 6' E?t6lM &VOQ@anO tEo'TOV, E1 tLOTL'dTYrV tiC(va aWL'to v v EXELS kXapEi; Tig Trg T'E EjTLrtlO'rtOV ?JoTLiV;OLCau TolacVrnSg&aQeTr, Trg dCVOQ@oJTiVrl Xai ToXLTLX1Sg, y&Q oE oxq(O6alt 6tLi TYV TO)V 1tEO)VXTjoLV. EOTLVTLI," (prjV Eyc0, "f oV;" v 6' eyco, "xat jTo6atr6g, xOai JT6oo 6lt6atoxe;" "ndrvv ye," 'r 6' o6. "Tig," "EiYvog," euax6Qtloa aJVTE? [VCov." xca ecpTr, "') COXQaTeg,nI6Qlog, L i (bg &XrY(cog iXoL TCiTrlv TrvTEv(V lV xai TOV eYC) EiTrvov oiUTO)g Eit[t1eCo 6L66axei. 13 T 17 Idem Crat. 391b10-11 (80 A 24; II 261.12 f.): (Soc. to Hermog.) ox ) Ta TOWV eJTL3Ta!vovV, XltGTaral e& eTarQL, xeeWO;g, 'OQ0OTdTTjl EXELVOlg TeoUVTza xal\ X6QLTaog xaaTTrLOU'tVo v. Cioi 6i OVTOl ol oorltcraL, oLojEQ xcaL 6 &6eX4xk g soo Tehoag KaCXXiasg rotk XQFtaMTa ooq)6g 6oxel vrV ELval. 13 T 18 Idem Euthyd. 304a3-b3: (Soc. to Euthyd. and Dionysod.) ' a TaXi ?Ex[La6OvTE?g 15iLv [] 1 J:OXXO)VEVIOVTLOV elactfrJo?fEoO XeyEL,IV iV ' tV JlXoTa CL ac ei6)otlv XdQtv. cdkXXk& jog Ei 6E 3TD rkkflXWo[Ovo 68lto?yaeo0o' A]?, EUTEQ&(XXov TOV ?VaVTiOV, ExeLvo pOVOVI65g dv 15[lV 616(O &QyUQlOV. TC arTa& 6TMac)a, Ecv oWQoovrTE, xai ToiLg [(oaTrlcg oVu[tfovXUEUoTE, [trlbIJOT? N TO yaQ cajcrvlov, W &vVQ(OdJTov xati cTo tl]6EVil i[ti TE X(L 6laCtEyeoot OL&kX' E56rlicE, TiLO,tIOV, T6 &6 i6o@ eoVOTaTov, &oQLoTOVO6, (5g Eqr nl v6cog. 13 T 19 Ibid. 304c1-5: and Dionysod.) ox6OtiE (Soc. to Crito about Euthyd. TE owv 6joJO Ol dO[toiLTqoe JTa(Qa TO)dv6Q?e, OLo) ELViCt O)g EXEIVO (CL)TO JoV Oi50' lkLX(iav TOV 6L66ML E'OEiovT' XCiL OUT? q)E &QyiUQovV 666vaC, 6e xal ooGi e(EiQyelv o06etCIav--6 odtXlcoTa JQOoflxi dxoVotal, OTl01r06 TOV 0o1 zaQaEcikaPcv 6VTLVOIV XQrlacriEW?OO(ai 4(nTov 6LCtaxo.1ELv o06Ev--di V Ot 1ET?Tdg oE)?TEoQav oo(uiav. 13 T 20 Idem 514c4-d5: TOvJO (toxov EQ7ydowovTl aTQdya' evaT xO oll qjxoXOV?TEg y&@Q&QETig x(aTylOQOOoJLV TO)V T'E oL )dg [ctOTro0g], TO'Ug pl0CTOOUgXOOTEQOVVTEg Xal tamrlOTcVv (og&6Lxo0X l aXkrlv xaQlv oi0x &no6L6tVTetg, ?V jrtaOovTEg 65' a'rOTov. xati TO'UTOVTO0 Xoyov TL (v dXoyTEQOV 'rq tQaytlat,&vep)(ov;og &yaeog; xali 6ixaciog ye?o[tvoiSg, E1 Grg. (Soc.) gVXl 6t6d6oxotXot This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions 38 Volume 4/No. I/April 1985 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY V &6LXiav 56jo TO 6b6laoxdXov, L oX6ovTC 6i 6Lxa0loovrv, EatLgQ?0VTaCg OrX 00 TOVTO TOUT9) CTOTOYVELVal, ) ETaCLQE; d6iXELV XOV'OLV; 0O160OXE 0E 13 T 21 Ibid. 520c2-el0: tv e1eEgyeaiovo&VEi (Soc.) Kcai JQoeo0aCye 6&Mrov O, ecx6, it00too, &d -6 iXXrkvPEv POvoLt TO:TOg1 EVEXWOEL,EtTEQacXr91 EXEyov. ? 6bia , 3JCi6oTQi(r1v, YcQ e1EQyeo(Ca Titg eQ?)YET1'?O oiov TaXivg yev6OtEVOS 'owc; av ajO(TooTEQ?I?E1 TYv XdQLV, Ed tQOOLT0 C)T(oo 6 jratoL6oT 'rqgxcta iq ?Tl 60bog Io Td)(Xoig XkaC13aVOL olv0E?tEvog aCCITO ttoGv Ott (loX1oTc a&la [taEc TO &aQyQlov o) yQ Tf? Ptl Or oCauL ab6lxouolV PQx1avTTL ol aV0Qo@onOL,&aXX' &6lx(~c'fi ydQ; TOTiO 4alQGiLQ, TV ailxilv, 'l Tg aTo oi6Ev ct (Call.) Ncti. (Soc.) OOxofv v" 0rEQyEoacv 6bEv6v aI)TO) tilTOTF?a&6bLXfl, &akXa6 ov6 av akXg Tal)Trv olX OITCO; Jrgo?aoCa, ?'JTEQTO OVTIL6vvatILTOTig CYyaOol)SgJtol. Ala EOLXE, TWvt' &aQ, dog rag i?V akXXk ovf[ovuag (Call.) (Soc.) ciyfi. ov[POV?kEt?Uv TEXVC)V,o06?v Xkact3rvovTca aQyU'Qov, olov oixobo[iag Cakov JTE?l r TOoWV CioXQ6v. ye. 'EOLX? (Call.) (Soc.) HEQi 68? Y TaCLUTgTrfg nct?5Es)g, OVTLV'Cv T1g TQOzTOV I U)5 (XTCiTogEo ?ITq xal aQioTC TfV aCToV o ixiaV 8L01XOL i] jOktIV, aiCoX 6v t t?v [j T1g aC')TC aQyuvQov 68&C. i yINQ; UOLV, VEVO6tloTaCLti jxvaCl OVa3POVX1 yaC OTl TrOVTOCatTL6v EOTIV, OTi PItOVYlOuLr TOV (Call.) Nca. (Soc.) AfJov U JTOl?LV,0O'?t XCaXOvbOX?E avt' ?Et0Vl91ElV JTOLE? EOEQY?Ea)LVTO'v eu JtCl6VTCLa TO o?qltEOV EvCal, ?E e U oLflCaC TCnUTV IV 0vEQ)E(YEoav &VT' U JTE?lo?Tat'EL& I I, oil. ?oTL TCaUTCa O1TWogEXovTca; 13 T 22 Idem Hi. Ma. 282c6-d3: (Soc. on '(oo?EV JTD'TOT?E EXE?VV o0vo6g Sages) TO)V6 jTcaXu)v tLO96V 3tQaaLoCac 0o66' ?JTL6E?LiLg ocav ?aTq WvTOV oo(JciaL' oiiTog the Seven &Qy6Qiov JrorioaactO i ?V CTavToaCIToLSav&0V:rcJoti ? ?1S xai ?X?EXh?OE E aCr1Tov a'Qylov ;g 7toXXof3 a4lov E?Tl. (Soc.) Jrokkoi ouvVoxEl OTL TOV oo006V au&TOvacrOT ' ' EVal OTOVTO 0og E?OTIV CgaQ, Og Cv jTXklToroV&QyUQlto 13 T 23 Ibid. 283bl-3: ldLXoLrOT6Eoo(LOV EQyaoCrrTCal. xaLXXko' E?JTriT(dLtvog LJTJrtxnlv 'O o0v (Soc.) T atv ?v E?TTaClXa i 'ETXd8og ldkLOTCa T'LTO xCIL TOUTO V xaOL 0i &akXXol (OJojSoV&0TO; jTXaoaTCXirFqaTa aTCL3Cdvo, 13 T 24 Ibid. JraQca6tL6vat 284a4-7: &a' o0x on the fact that teachers of fighting in TCOV ?Iti Trog lcXtoTa ?XEVOl T'EkXiVW0vojroCdtovotlv Sparta) TL IV jCLa XC OTI TI; aXXWo avL XCai TCOV jTalQ'EXELVO1 nOEL]9 ELgTaiCTaC ToLouVTOLg i TQayO(blag jotIr)g IaQ' JTkEoT' Cav ?EYdtOLTO X(nlraTacTC, )OJtn?Q fi1tiv yxaY 13 T 25 Idem Laches armor 183a3-7: (Laches avoid TL('Y09Eg. 13 T 26 Ibid. 187a3-5: (Socrates' advice to engage someone who has proven r XdLoaQLv i1 q S&bQolg teaching qualifications) ?!3'EXE?vovglo0)EVxCatjtiELOWiEv x TCOV 15i ?T?CQV Jraibov C(4)TEQC E?LLJLE1kqNrVCtLXCi T'OV [IETE?oQWV This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching 13 T 27 Idem Meno 91b2-5: (Soc.) TOTOVU Toig TLaQUa &dQEtr6i6aoxdkovSg Eva xcai dnorvavcag TO fO(3koio?VcO [avO6vciv, Cf. 92a7: ... 39 tIOGXVOxvoPEvoVg vwv ca5toUSxolvoig TOVeEXhk tioOov ToUTOvUTUaIaOCvovg TE xatL JTa9TT'o[EvovUg ot Tot3Tolg 666v'Tg d@Qyiulov T:OVVEov. .. 13 T 28 Idem Prt. 311b3-312a4: (Soc. and Hippocrates) jart nIolTayCoav vUv ?EJtXIEQELgLEVai, &LQyUQov TEl?V EXElvWO[to06v jtEQ oEC?aroOi, (og JratQ ... ca.TQC & 6 6i nQTcTayoQav Tiva c(&)pL6tLEvog xaC Ti yEvrqo6tEvog; viv TE Xoal EXELVW) Atio06v (JIU QYUQLOV TEEIV WalXO6LEVOLEy:O ETOL[tOL to0iE0[t oJTE oou, Ei 8? Cv PEV ELtxvyrTat Tta l'TEQga XpQlWatcr xaC TO;TOlg JzEi0o4EV aOcTOv, (iLXcoavJQOoaCVCaXioXOVTs. EL OuV Tlg Ylag JEQl TaCLTa T'CaT) [tr, xal OviOT o(xS6Qcta ojroiV64ovTatg EQOlTO "EL'JE [1L, C OcOXQaTEg TE xal TLVL OVTI T(O nQwTco Qygta ?V v0 ??XETEXQ)(fCLaC T?k?EV;" TLavv 'IjT7jrXQaTEs, 0og T'( ovoca oaCi1 a&toxQLvai(CtEO; akiXXo YE XEyO6[tvov JTEi rnQ@CTayOQov xtal tr?Qi ?E6i(ov 65otr? &xoio(?v; aoyaCltaToroLOV jt?Ql 'OtQ@ov rtoLrjTqV, TL TOtoDtoV t?QinQ@cOTacYQOv a&xouo[EV;--EOloTrV 6vol[6to'1oi 6Mi TOL YE, cb .TOV Ta TO? 'Qg oo(TOlor aQca ?QX6o[iEOC? TEXkO?VTE?g dC,)XQaCtEg, ta@V6 EMLL, oGv xai TOUTOTig oE JTO(O?QOlTO'"A1OSTg 6 ri dog XQtiCTCLa;-MktXLOTa.-EL EiJTEV QX JTctoa TOV HQ@oTCtYOactv;"-Kcal 6g YEVY00[EVOg TI O)OTE aLTv 1 xlaCTc)av cr yEVao agQCtg, yLQ jr? (Valv?Vv EQOeQL6ocag-r6i 1v TI Toig EAJ[Qoo(0?V COLXEV,Sr)MOVOTI oo(O)L0TYgyEvrqOo[tEvog. Cal-Ei TLg Cf. 313b5 f. o o(ioTsg TuyXVYX VOvl Ei[t QOg (Soc. to Hippoc.) ' Wdv ivXi\ TQE4)(ETCa;()aLvETaCLyaCQ ?iEo1yE &CO d), t;g q xLdTq]Xog TOV ayyit, 68, C)cWoxat?s, 6irJov, rjv pvXi T'I;-MaCvQ[aoLV TOLo0'r6og 'I.-TQE()ETCa 6' ?y6. XCl 6OJT)g YE [1, O) ETCLi?E,60 00oOiTS g tJaltV)V Ca JTEl(O itCaCaMa]Oq 13 T 29a Ibid. 313c4-dl: o01 JTEQ 'Tv TOU O)LaTog ?1L5g, OO@aJTEQ TgQOdlv, 6 ?E4itO6g TE Xal xadrJTqog. ol Txa [Cai[Mac a ?eTEQLdYoTEg XCaTr b Ibid. 313dl-314b4: (Soc. to Hippoc.) tCg j6E?15g xoai jcohoOVTETgxcLL xatjrlk?OVTE?g CTOaEd jL0V[OiVTL Ejra;lvoVOaI 6' Cv TlvEg, c0 aQLIOT, xaC TOJUTcoV EV JravTaCa MIAtOoUIv, TCdXCa aYVOOLEVOV v OTI XQTOTOV fY JTOVrQOV T06og TV Jt(jOU(aLO PVUXTpv'cog 6' cuTlog xai av JTC' TV Wv. ?IV ] JTEQl iV ZqY C aCTlTOV, CLaTQLxog TIg WvooU[1?VOOl TVX)S c Idem Sph. 223c10-224e4: (Stranger to Theaet.)... ol TO TSj XTYlTLXTSg, 4VUXElaTOQLxfngtE?Qi XkoYov xct TO JTOlqTIXOV 6SUTEQOV Cv?Epdvr OOcpiOTXlr. ... .xal [CaLrlctaTCa dQETig XlTY]TLXig CQCa [lEtaCLq3XTTiOV,UyoQaoTix6OV, XCLatTjl]x6 EITE aCiOToJrO)kLXoV, [CLT OT[T(OT XOV.t yLvog, dEi 0U Cd[tqOT?EQ;)g,OTl?TEQav Yl J?IEQ a TOa 'aoCao1OTC IETSamXTtx)g, jrToo?EQEig, &yoQaoTixlqg, q cpailrV, E[ATOQLX)g, oo0pIotxiV. : 60VYg Yq:TTWEEvat, O(OTe TOvT' Eo(TLVTO &C[a1Oia f [!EyiLTYl, rg nQwoTayoQatg o66 cpfloiv iaCTQOgEivaC xtCi IQ66Ixo g xaC TLT &c[o(iav 6 TO\OiEOCT ELval oiOTEaC)TroLoiTE TOUg Cai ako 'IJniTLag' t[lES 6&A6 L TOVOUTV ToUv6E ToUg 0oo0)oTo aQTC 686aLoxdov;g tEITEQOv)g taCL6Cag TLoug 13 T 30 Idem Prt. 357c2-8: (Soc.) This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY 40 Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 JtEUTE?TE,dOg ob 6iSvTEg 6bL6axTo OVTog, &XX& X66OEWVOL TO C XLat L6GLxa C 6q1tooia. xaxog; jaTTdT? TOUTOLgO a&,yveiov xal o0 13 T 31a Idem Sph. 223a3-b7: T6 6E JyrayyWyXXtovov (Stranger to Theaet.) EVSxa JotIOl?Evov, &6 vdoLato lEV QETg tLag ottlXicg jio96v altov JTQaCTTotEvov, &Qa 0o1 TO'TO TO yvog ?Tc OVOdaTl; If QOJFSTELT?V fTfQ( 15 (og T?XVrlg OiXE?iCTLXtXg, (XCELQ@OTLXJg), [XTr1TLXg;,] OrlQEVTxrIfg, l;po90rQgag, (jtltavo90iQLag), [jTE00o6gitLag,] XEQ?Gacig, [rl?FQo900tl]Xfcg,] av0@oo03t!Q(ag, vE?)v 6ooJiCal6?vlUTXlg, i6loOTlcacg, [[ttoaeovLxjlg,] votYLLOtaLTorkxflg, nXovoiowv xiat Ev66cov YLYVOAvr1 Q90Qa TQOQTE'TOV, dCg 6 vIv XOyog (tflv (JU(tica(vEL, oo4laTIxfl. b Ibid. 231d3 (D.-K. 79.2; II 252.23): (Stranger, re. the sophist) . . . rlOe0 v?co xai jrkovoiov E?itoo00g 0nQEv9ri g. TE??L [trl6?V ac ahXXov eb6xovv (paLv6ovoi (Stranger) TO ELval Q6OVL[LOL, TOTO' &v TaToLg OT , oov 6ta Tv tdA(lo/i(Ttlotv XOTO v TO'rTCOV ov TLg X)(CltaTa 66oVug i0O?v aiTCov yLyvEJOal. acYOtrl]Tg 13 T 32 Ibid. 233b5-6: 13 T 33 Ibid. 234a7-9: 'v rTO X4yovTog OTl jr6avTa oi6? xca TaijTa (Stranger) xai Ev OXkiyq X6 vqp, Vjjvo JTzab6LavVO[tLOTEOV; ETEgov &v 6lbdL?E?V o6iyov 13 T 34 Tht. Idem. 165d5-7: (Soc. a XXoxCo6v&v ztlXaoTlxo6g to Theaet.) fV(X'i?ji(jToFlirV xaCl alC(OrloV TamoT6v xai xai 6oXa4)alv?oaUl t;g TolatTag dCvqig tiLoo(xoQog Ev Xkyo;g 016[?Svog, av ?9ov, ?t(3a)(v iSg TO axoO?Lv av TqV JoXkV6Qcaov acioaro?Eg, IXEYXE?V i?3T)(ov XLa o'ix avLIEiSgJTQVOavadoag E T? ov o &rt' oo()iav caitov, XE?(LQ0tEoa1E?vg Xcal ovviTocag ovv?J7o6o0lqg i6r1bav TOT?E E'k6QOV XQgIaTWcov6ocov oo(01 x&xE(vc ?66x?t. 13 T 35 Ibid. o0'TW &vv6tIv vog JatL6??VOE11V. 13 T 6 oo(poisg; (Soc. to Theod.) v TE xaL JTalcatc coy7 okkl iog oo0xSg0 167c7-dl: ToiVg jtal6?vooovgV 0v (Qt]V rT(ov ToLg 36 itoiv TIVEg &avOQojrol OITLVEg (Soc.) &a' [Plato] Eryx. 402d4-e3: )]Ov 1 yQ? V 3O6UOVOLV L TLVa ?EJTLOTirO]V,dlaVTL T'OTOW [OlVXoJTx T.a'n ?T?QaClV o(jioLV a0lTolg Ta ?EjTLTr?sla E?xJTOQovTal, TOUTCOV [lo06V 7TQaTTO'6Ltvol;-ELut yaQ.--OXO0v OVUTOOL &vC)QWrotL TctrUVTI ?T EjTL 'iir1f ox &avTi TLavTig &aXXTTOEvol, IJTQ fltSg Enti6Er6la, ayvUQLO1v.-4-PTL.-OlXO1UV XQe)VTUIL,xav agTo\ Xq0qtlov Ta ?XxTOQ(';OLVTO TO XQvaiov xal aVTi E'iTEQ TOVTCO?XJTOQiLOVTaLOiL JtQOg TOVY ov av E?irl JTQg TOyVPov. xcai 70Q T'aQyutQOV TOVTOV OLOLT' LE?VaITCO TavayLXacta JTQogTO o)XOa OTI vtal, TWOV E?()[.-OOxovV El?JTEQaUTaI ai ?jLOTtiaL XnOQgi?EoalO.-OVTOg, L6t TqTV TO01TO, (aXlivovTactIflaiLV CI EALTrCMLa XQlgrotoTaoUool JTQo XQrlOLAOV FV?XaC5 XQot7lOV ?Ca?EV (ai)Txv actiLcV L6' YVtE? TO1XeQVOlOVTE Xai TOaryUQtov. PAID LECTURES 1 T 5, 5 T 11, 6 T 1, 2, 4, 5, 9 T 1. See also Herodotus' gift: [Plut.] De 73 F that Suda J FGrHist Note Herod. 862a Athen., 3). (= Diyllus malign. Cf. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching 41 2958Adler: . . .xcai E7xf01rO [6HnoTay6oQa] Aoyog etlao0og is an error for the epiklesis A6yog (as found in, e.g., Sch. Plat. Resp. 600c). WRITING 14 T 1 Theopompus, FGrHist 115 F 25 = Phot. Bibl. 176, p. 120b30: . . . 'Iooxd6Trlv 'V 6t' dnoQLcv (Liov xcai lco0o0 k6yoUg y96qtPEv xcat Tag xWx?I0EV XaQJTOV'Uvovg Eo6ExTrv oo(plaq)OTELV, EXJaTl6CUOvVTca TO'cS vEoug 14 T 2 Xenoph. ?hyouol xail Cyn. 13.8 f.: oil oopLTioT 6' e T T eajrTcaxv . T x XEQ6E CLai o16&va .Ot EWVyaQ EJT eaUUTlWv o06?Ev w(pEkOVoLV. yQacpovolv 01 xca 6E VEOV; 0tlQY0VTcal, JrTo(oiouV CplXoOOCpol JtolT XOLVOiXca opqtLoTOTai cpiXoL' 'o)(tg 6e c(v6?QvOVi5TE TlPotLV o{5T? 'tTL[6ouotL. BARBERSHOP 15 T 1 Eupolis Marikas, fr. 180 Kock (= Sch. Plat. Phd. 60b): xai n6kk' eitacov ev TOlOL ;?yo XOVQEiOLg boxCOv. &To6twgxa0(Coov, xo06e YLYVVOXEJLV 15 T 2 Plato Comicus Sph., fr. 135 Kock (= Sch. Aristoph. Av. 299): TO Stro@y(lov XOVQElOV, EXOlOTOVTyog;. AGORA 16 T 1Ameipsias, Apokottab., fr. 1Kock (= Athen. 7.307e): (A.) Ey;( 6' itLv tQetQatoo[at EL; Trv aYOQav eQYOV okal3v. (B.) 1TT6V Y' &v ov vrflOTi xac06ajE xEoTQecg axokoveU l;o0Sg eoi(. 16 T 2 Eupolis Parasiti, fr. 159 Kock (= Athen. 6.236e): 5 iL[t(Tiw 6ebFol 6bt' EiTOV XCtQ(LETETOVTO, olv ?w[tcaXkLatc0VwVfEL\iOa&EQov EhEkaVVOw ?XEI 6' enTELbsVXCtTi6() TLV'cv6QaC Eig ayoQav. JkXoVTOvVTr 6', Ci09g JtE?QTOOTOV iF(Al. fXie0ov, xav Tl rtXrB Xywovo6 jxko'JTCta, jTvv TOOT'?rJtlV(d, xoal xlaTUTTXlTTO[al boxwv TOLOIlk6yOLt1 XCo(Qv. EtT' EJI 6EljTVOV gQX;6Eo0' V6 Xtkkvbig kkog fit6jv JTOUx Viacxv ?iJ'di&k6pv)ov, ov 6l Xa(QLEVTc(a TOv xokaxo' ei000og EyELV, hQU1aE?. 'XCPE@QTatL v nrokkXoi 16 T 3a Plato Apol. 17c7: . .. . ev &yo0Qa ?JT T(i)V TQcgaxToV, 'va 0 .. axrx6oaot [F?to0, sc.], xcial&ko0. b D. L. 2.21 (ex Demetrio Byzantino): .. . . Td 91x cpqLkoooaqcpv rril TET6) EV Tr xca sc.. ayoQ [TOV wXQgdTrlv, EQycoTorQLcOV This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions 42 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY c Xenoph. Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 ?Xcv6Og [i.e., Soc.] yE &sdLv qv ?v TO xal T& Ct?E xat tEQljdtZTov 3TXr.6oaorig y4tvdoitla (paveC)' &aet Trg [lQ(aCg \V OYOV jtXEiToIg ?xEl CpcaveO5gfly, xai TO XOLJTOV atyoag avev?oaol. Ukko ovL Mem. 1.1.10: 'AXX&r Iiv oV Ti jtQO'TE yaEQ Eg Cf. 8 T 7 on Hippias. DINNERS and PARASITISM 17 T la Athen. cus, On 12.536f-37c Ponti (facts about Callias taken from Heraclides TOUTCoVoVV T(OV xgrlT6rov KoaXXiao [fr. 58.28 Wehrli2]): xal JQo6; il6ovrv T( tl)w(og-T-IroLo yaQ oi xokXtxESg Pleasure XUgjoQ yEv6[oEvog 7Xi0oS 0oix ETaLQC0v J?QiL ca1tov iocav, roiactg 6E Caj6tvaCg o0X rtEsQ?gCO 6O ELSg ?TGTOOOUTOVatTOV JT?Ql?OTTl]C 6 JEQI 6jOVlV 3iog oJrTE 'xEvoo--aXX ?TdTYQG6Lov (3CaQQ(Stov LcraTEXrevilvayx6ao0rI x Ta (V avayxaic(v TOV xa0' 'l@Qctv E?ver TOYV (ov ET?E?'UTTj1oV. g yEvo6[tvog 'AkXX Kctkiav K?v cv p. I 296 Kock): ?V iLLdC)TYV av6oa OVCTIUoo(ol bi Max. Tyr. 20.7 (= Eupolis Parasiti, A lovv(oiLog EiUro Xlt , ?XWcOE' lt XOkaX?EvO6[VOV bii Eupolis . . . fr. 149 Kock Parasiti, (= Pollux (A.) 6?8Ejvov 09g C?xaTOv boQaXdag;. (B.) (A.) oivov 09?g ETEcav [tvUv. biii Ibid., fr. 150 Kock 6QactyXIv cxaTOv OXTrc)kaPaxag, biv Ibid., (= Athen. 9.59; Sch. Lucian. V 179.9): diss. 778e): ibol. 7.328b): iXOQug?dVr[tLal [ovov xQUo60ogQV; 6? 66?xa. fr. 161 Kock (= Athen. 7.286b): ' CokI Jtrap TC6 KauXX(ci 09vqnr6ia, iva JTaQa [?V XcQcaPol XaOi PaTi6?s xcai XaycL , xai yUvvoalx?g E?itTo6S. Ibid., fr. 162 Kock ao(JEQ oUv TOiU;KatXXov by (= Plut. Maxime xtWoi)6ovgLvoug cum princip. philos. i?YVoLV x6ocaxacg 0 of JQ 1)68? o(i6rlog O6O? Xotkx6Og CatE?lyE? t qLolTv ?J; 6?EL7VOV (PO xatcxT TO EijToXtv. bvi Ibid., fr. 163 Kock (=Athen. 14.646f): 6g XaQLTcov P?V 06?1, ail, xctXkatibastg pO 8? X?;?1 orloc(bi6ag [frlta 6& XQ?F,[t1T?T(Xl. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching 43 bvii Ibid., fr. 172 Kock (= Athen. 3.100b): xolklobai t(v Ev T4 6tow[tUap ov xotaxag Cf. 1 T 6b (= cqatUTL fr. 146ab), ... EiroXlg Toog oirTto xXvlxE. 16 T 2 (= fr. 159). 17 T 2a Eupolis Caprae, fr. 1Kock (= Erotian. 121Nachmann): >g & fl xacr[l Tgl, ?t0oCg a)TiV JOtOT' [Ol Jol) o?XdlX' YV T' 161 UXOV ?Q?lr' X?X(S;E?Tct (pQP0El TE JTQOgTOV litrOkOV. b Ibid., fr. 5 Kock (= Photius Lex. ?ipr]To): Xali T1g koia6og' EVEtl 6' ?8'proiL TlVEg. c Ibid., fr. 14 Kock (= Plut. Quaest. conv. 4.662d-e): ViXrg ajT6 j7avToTJrba g, ?XaTlqg jTQLvoVXO[aSQOV TE Poxoie?0' xacl JQOSgToJTOLOlv ET'akka, JTTOQ0oUga Xotkog CaxoTQyoyaotl, XVTIOOV T'16i oCqxxov 0&)6n1 xai o[iLXkaxa Tv jToXkVpVuXov, ? cXxtav 6aav XOTlVOV OxiVOV , XITTOV, , O, XVO, QxLvV, 'QixrTV, 6ig[toaXov.0dtvov, qcp6[ov, &av0eQixov,,xlpo(v0 , 9a, [ptov, Qpav. On the luxury of the sophists' own haunts, cf. Eupolis Astrateut., fr. 32 Kock (= D.L. 3.7): ev oxxi(otL 6G6loLotlv 'Axa6[iov 0eoi, and Antiphanes fr. 122 Kock Cleoph., / kEJATTCV, &aoiTo, Aia 17 T 3a Plato Comicus xav 1qyaogS (= Athen. (JTxi(VY Sph., 3.98f): fr. 137 Kock x, XxVavELO?yX? b Ibid. fr. 144 (= Athen. . . . ev TXO Avxecw i?Tae ooqcLoTCOV,vq . . . 10.422f): (= Athen. 7.312b): g. 6?6aJrvavaL. Cf. perhaps Zonaras 1555 (= Plato Comicus Soph., fr. 147 Kock): tXkaioiov V TLaig, which might be viewed ?6og [?TQOV 1 f# ?v TgTQaYOWvoTcOVOT@QaUTLOT of in the light of the "chorus" formation pupils in Plato Prt. 315a Protagoras' b. EROS to Euthydemus) o'L?i 6iE 8LaCQ?LV (Thais writes O0 6laX T)V a)TWVv ?XaT?'QOL TOOOUTOV LoCog Ooov TLcaiQg ocpIOTriV; TO Xkal[v. tELOo1OLV,?EJTEiVY? &[tqOTC?QOL T?'okg EQO6xLTOLL 18 T 1 Alciphro 1.34.4-7: 18 T 2 Xenoph. Symp. 4.62 (84 A 4a; II 309.30-32); (Antisthenes to Soc.) T oopT c oavTa t0 Oiba [v, ?cpqr,0E KalXX(v TOVTOVL 3TQoaywyto figo6Six, 6T? TOd' v 6EOCEVo' oi6a ?i)cQag toUTOV iv (pitooocp(cag EQo)VTca, EXELVOV6? XQ[R( TO & e 0 x TO) o ' oU 6& JraQt' X3c [t rOVLXOV ?[COa?v & O' 'InJTlix toog 'HkEiq), 0 T a TL xaov 6?r1MoTE T6 Xv xai 1i61 ?QW)TLXWTEQOgy?E?VT]TLa 6tL ?vcayxog; 6 qirov xai ?JTLkavOavCoai. ?JTL0V[tlV a(TO1, EJ?l IX? ?ltO(XlOag ~?vov V IOv ro6g ?? ?jTaLoLVJ 'HQaxk?dT1rv abOTOv. [OL OVvocTrloag This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions 44 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 18 T 3 Plato Euthyd. 303b5: . .. o Tzo EE6vGr(tov cQaota( . . . (cf. 273a2 6). . .. . 18 T 4 IdemMeno 70a5-b5 (82 A 19; II 276.21 ff.): (Soc. toMeno) TOV [iV OecTTaXol cO66xtiOi oavCV TOlg 'EXXlkol xcQal 'eaOcv ovTo tep' re xal vUv 6tOL LrUtLXfn 6&, (bg 6OOXe[,xcl 6CmTooCpLa,xacl GO(X XLoTa rkXou.T, ct Torov 'AQioTi(TTov troXirTacAaolcaiol. 6t iALV aciTlO65 T aiQov o TOooV ov cTV rLXv OCpiLa JtO ?CoTt roQy10og' atPLXoEvoC Elti YaQ EigS ETQaag Elk(cPEV 'AXeviyaMv T1 ToUg5jQTc.TOVg, ()v 6 o05 cEQaJc g Eoalv akWcv ?OTTaXCLv. Cf. Plato Sph. 222d7-223a, where i6lO0qgCevUTLX , the one Plato distinguishes tLOcaQaivTLXO6v,which includes xalc TOV 'AQ(iclJtrrro, two forms of sophistic, the other which includes #}TiOVegQoTWViov Qa. 6(oQocOQXO6V, SOCRATES t ro 'EopQrf; oviorlS jaQra 'A0rlvaciol T ) &6Qca Jtoroka T [E.caL Wcox0CTEl. Tr5 ovV 6 6e TOyv CoxWaTrlv kapElv ctrTa atolarlsg, (prl' "&aXXaxai [tsgL5T CpltXoTll[iactT TOO 'AkXtlLa66oU jtraQctacart6cs0U, P) ka?eiv Ta jT?cp,0?VITT avT1(pLCOTlk']oCllaE?voL." Ej?l 6e TlSgECP] JQO aci)o O6TL v piyca e (JTv iOuVtliei TLg TOUTWOYV TVXELV,6 6? "&aXka Etl6V eonC Ti6 of6& 19 T 1 Aelian Var. hist. 9.29: lo0)LlOTailoaTo <6> 'AkxlxSt6rbg xal c.av0(iJrnT xoaTatrkaceiaoY JiML0viv r\iv &aX v." Cf. Stobaeus 3.61, 17.17; Gnomol. Vat. 407. Ti XcoxQrTng 2kcy? v O6T 19 T 2 Ibid. 10.14: xai aQyia a6bCkCp Tg5 kXe0eQictag ?CTl. AcaT@rQlOv ?2eyev &v6bQeoT&Tovgxai 'Iv6oivg xai eXedv0cEQlaTovug ' 6&\05o HQoc(ag, aq0poTcQoug Auvoi95 giQycaTlXOTacT'oV, 19 T 3 D.L. 2.20: xai XQrl(laTLoGAv aQyoTaTOuS 6ovueV?ltv 6&. ya? :TQn'og, elvaC .Q@yag 6;5 4)rlol cpa3QoYQvog ioTOQia(FHG iii, 583), [ter&TO1 act0rlToi Aia)(vov 6e xcal V nalvTo6atrl e6i6la' rlTOQ?UelV ycEl TOV 20wxQaCTrixv (FGRHist 338 F 16). xct 6e Touro xcaL 'Ibo1Ieve5g ev ITCO IEQl T teQl oTo05 (3iou xai bteXe0r] jr3a l4Xoo6cpCov xaTaCiXaCo0iel5 tCTEXEta. jTN)Tog 6' 6 catov ii, fr. 59) xacL 'AiLToT6evog XTLvOa6Qov (Wehrli )rloi ELT' &0aQo(iEl' TlOeVTa YO0v TO (ac)XXi6Evov xeQta XQr1laTiLrcaoacL. avaXoavcTavT rXiv TLOevaL. 19 T 4a Ibid. 2.24 f.: AiTdQxr1Tg Te Xvxaci oeAv6o. xcai ToTE 'AAXxil366ov, xadO v T ep66 TYOV 'YjotvrqlJtTcWV (FHG iii. 521), 6L66VTo5 )cprot lnaci(Xl r a06C Tva oixiacv fxIval, "xal ei O6YrlondTOrwv tceydlXfv CalrC XO)CQ(av Oixo6oqOlTaL jT 3 LQoCaV CtOL e66oVg 'Iv' :acUTCt OroNt(aQTa xoloclitalrV, ei5 ra rkJT0] TCOV xaTUayXaWcTog av qv Xkacf3O." arok.XLgXS 6' &coQcv tljTQaoXxop?vc)v EXye JTQog5aoL'Tv, "JT6ocv EyC7 XQeLiav OVx EXo). xcai xeTvacv &cq0CeyEyTo TaL iatc3a (Kock ii. 512). ouveXe; 6El xOal This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching o[ t&6' &QYVU QT' 45 EoTLeV1i TE roQcjQaC ;gTOV(3iov. Eg TorgSTQcayPoio XQolCt obx taSCQE(O6vTloa 6e xcal 'AQXEkdoVUTO3Maxeb6vog xal EtQvk6XoU To0AaQltooaiov, xcal >x6orca TOUKQavovov b Ibid. OUTO 2.74: Qog6 TOv caITLTc(evov O6Tl CoxQdTov; [6 'AQoiJTlJro;, kact3dve, Pdaac,"Eare sc.]' TLVO)VXcal ( TOV Xal OlV, o;iya j3TIEtOVTov acTil TaOLtiaC ELX?E YQ TOUig JQITOVS dboe rToadxt IarT0rmg Ov laQyUQLov "xal Q Ci coxcGTq1g, tC ,oir cIat13vcov "xaci &Tr3E[eev' oCITiOV JTcQ' fLJTE Evog 7TQOo? TTEXqG[aLTCa v6niavV bCi cV ao reXk)v. eriTaxr6; rTaQ' caTOi'g og 1T ov ox XOLMV OVO O6 yEvojuvCOv EV6OrO0. 'AiqjvotI, ?y7 'ArlvoaL(ov, 68' Ehi)TUiXi'6v QOvYTov." a&Qyv c Ibid. 2.80: E? 6Oi[k(ag catit YCox dT'rg, "jr6Ov aol Toocaira;" [Tc 'AQLOTiJTnTc,sc.] XQ'caTLioai?iVp xca 6g, "60Ev 001 TCaOXiyaC." cprloi 19 T 5 Ibid. 2.27: 'Hv 8' ixavog6 xCi TOWvax(orTVTOV aWTOV rrt?EQOQdv.xai Te v6?va o ?il Or TEirT??ei, tao06v ?LoEnoQardcto. xal kE?Y?V Lvcov YfxlOTa TO [ xcal i]6boTa ibr6loTac?olOov qxtlaOta Oov U Qoo6?lo0ai' 0 jtcaQOv JoOTOV aCLVC?V?LV'Xal ?aXictOTC 6?6)V 0Eov. TOVTO6' vral 77yLCT ?6vog oE?iVEVTO racCa TCo xiycp6ojio0C)v XaOtl3v, di XCavOdvvotLv ?aTvroUg S' ) v oxcOlTTOVOLV?IalVOOvT?cg aci)T. 'AQlOTOOxvrlg K\v o'iog; (Nubes 412-17)' ?V?EjTa xcal 6) mS 6xai(we CC jir rj;g teiY6kQq c@j~ GO L dvOgjo tEya~kqg e:ivyiruoci ELZ0tl0 Gg oo4(Loag Mge GxalwS ()g 08t6ai(tOv TaCQ''A0qvaioLt xatl Toi[ "ET loi 6dL?tg;. ?V?(TLV TcO TaialcTQOV El Y y?Q [VRi[oV Xcal (p)ovTL0'og, XCai TO ?v TfIYvChUr,XOT?E TItXdIiv?iS oi0' aOTOb; oiTE (3Ca6i(;cov, OiUTeQLyW)VcXOEL XCav, iUT'&QL(Tcov ?ELtvi[t6Sg, otvov T''djt)XE xCal TO)Vfk)cov &voIrTO@v. xd'6&ro(aoYCtg 'AEti(iPag 6' ?V TQIPCovL(Kock i. 672) tnaQrdyov aciov (lOiv oUVcog tokXX 6E? [aTaciOTa', fiX?l; C)xQcaTEgCvb6QOv (3XkTLoT'6XiYov, xal (a STQog [tSdg. xaCQTEQLx6 y' e?. J;60Ev v ooL XkXai[vCYEVOLTO; V YEYETvrTt. B. TOVUTTO xaxov T:OVoxVTOTO'6IoV XCT:'?m@?eQEt A. oS'tog P?EVTOlJTE1Lv) OV'TCo O0rTOjTOT'ETX] xoXax?IoaT . TO OtETQOATTXO6V xCal e?yaX06(()Qo ?}Q[Uaiv?ExCal OVi'co; 'AQLOTOxVlqg ?CYOv (Nubes 362 ff.). 6' caiTov TOOJTO 6OTt QEV0VEl T' ?V TaioLV 66oig, XCal TOd)06a(k\) 3raQaCk3d?lgt;, V og xaxa jtoXk' dv?X?l, xa&v l#v (JEl ovoTQoo0(tg. xcvvJ8rlTzo EVLOTE TAQO; ToUg xCalQoiSg CQ[to'TTO4t?vog xal ka[crdr \l[iMxeTO xaoadxi?Q v TcOFIhdrovog zCutoo(ic (174a) jrTa' 'Ayd0ova paSbicov. xaiTol 19 T 6a Seneca De ben. 1.8.1: Socrati cum multa pro suis quisque facultatibus offerrent,Aeschines, pauper auditor: "Nihil,;' inquit, "dignum te, quod dare tibi possim, invenio et hoc uno modo pauperem esse me sentio. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions Itaque dono tibi, 46 Volume 4/No. 1/April 1985 CLASSICAL ANTIQUITY quod unum habeo, me ipsum.Hoc munus rogo, qualecumque est, boni consulas cogitesque alios, cum multum tibi darent, plus sibi reliquisse." Cui Socrates. "Quidni tu," inquit, "magnummunus mihi dederis, nisi forte teparvo aestimas? Habebo itaque curae, ut temeliorem tibi reddam, quam accepi. "Vicit Aeschines hoc munere Alcibiadis parem divitiis animum et omnem iuvenum opulentorum munificentiam. b D.L. 2.34. 19 T 7a Aristoph. Nub. 98: (Streps. to Pheid.) OV1TOt i&aoxoUo', aQyQUlov yV TiL 6160 ... b Ibid. 245: (Streps. to Soc.) ... t. .[LO 6' OVTLV' av ool XCaTaCiOCLVTOVU9Oeug. [t' 3TQdtT1 CotOlcaCi c Ibid. 876: (Soc.) xaicTol 7 TaXkavTOV TOuT' E?aC0OVYtEQPf3oXg. d Ibid. 1146: (Streps. to Soc.) .. . TOOVL JTQTOV WkaE' o. X/O? yaQ JtLOaw4iUc?tLVTL TOY 86I6dxaXov. 19 T 8 Eupolis, fr. 352 Kock (=Olympiod. in Plat. Phaedrum 65 Heind.): woXQ TrqV, TOV JTTOXOV &6oXOXqrV, [I(oO)&6 xai TOyV WV 6g TaXX(ta ?tE(PQOVTLXEV, O6r66v E&xaTactqayELv EXoL TOlTOV xaxTrlTWXErV. Cf. Procl. in Plat. Parm. = 490 Kock. III 656.16 Cous. and Aristoph., fr. 506 Kassel-Austin 19 T 9a Aristoph. Nub. 179: ex Tng JTkaXcioTQag OoitaTLov b Eupolis, fr. 361 Kock (=Sch. OqpEieXTo Aristoph. Nub. 96 and 179); 6E 1W0XQaXTlg TTIVE1JTI6E1LV t5og TtV VQCtav, OLVOXOlYV{EXEsEpv. ETYlOlX6@OQOv &6?a6E[vog 19 T 10 Quintil. necessarios ferri, cum Inst. orat. 12.7.9: At secundum exiget, et Socrati conlatum si res familiaris amplius omnium aliquid ad usus sibi gratiam re sapientium leges patietur sit ad victum et Zenon Cleanthes Chrysippus mercedes a discipulis acceptaverint. 16: TiVI Vv yatQ ELroTioaoe 11 Xenoph. 'iTTov ?ofO 6ovkXruovTa Apol. T'iva &S av0Oee@Jov ?XeVe0QL)TEQOV, 65g jrt' Tcac TOt oc6ataTo ErTOvuialg; OfIEv6og OVT?E680QC OvuTE I(aOOv 6?xotCal; 19 T This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment for Teaching 47 6e TLcqploo0ev aiLTov Cvalc, TOV 7cvTCag ei6?vaCXOTL aIT dVTL6L66vOtL,i6[t0g 7roXoVig; lROuV?lv E[tOi TL E7y) fTXLOT'av EXOIl XQarta 6 1cp' Eivog .c[TTEIoCaO 6CoQE[oOaL; TO 6' ?A? Ev gtr6' r ftoi 6E E'flYEYCg, 19 T 12 Ibid. jroUo;g 17: Exeivou XadQTaSgoq0e(tv; 6OoXoyeiv 19 T 13 Ibid. 26: re?Qgy:Tovv OTLil e6V6uvav aOyaC6v. 6e TOUg eoiL 6Olct yovovg ajQoLXa 6L6JaaxOv 19 T 14 Idem Mem. 1.2.5 ff.: akk' oiv OQuarTtXO6;Y o6 l6E a&kaOVLXO'gqi T c a&Xk 6LOai . o ogiv OUT' &aAMJEXO6v ou0' 06' olrO Tob6?oaE TOWV Wv y ToSg ouvVOVTocag tOEl. yCQ &CXov E@aQolX)(QrlATOVgS y EltOuctcLV EjaoUE, To;g 6' EacrTOv EjTL0VuouvTUag o01 ExjltaTTeTo XQgl[toaT. TOVITOu6' ? 6T lVOR6[aLV ?kEvO?EQig &aj;6XiEvog Trg lTCEk.?[iLoaL' TolgI ka&tc3avovTac aM)TOLC EacVTdv arTEdXECl 6iLt TO &vayxcaov o6[tlac; (ltBo0v aVV6Qaro6lotTag RLOO6. OavaCtCe 8' Ei TglS&QETrv Lcval 6lacXyFc0al otaQ'Jv [av] Xd(otLE TOVY Xt al VOidOI TO[(EYLC?TOV EcayyEkkXXoEvoC a&QylQLOV TQaTTOTO XEgQ60o eiLV Xvo xak xayag TO) ( oL ti'kov ayao?tv XTlqod[etvo,, aXXa oiOOTO O[t 6 YEVOIEvoS T I?YLTr a E{OL. 6& oxQaTnrl eetQyETqlOCaVTl Ml] Trlv taYiCOTrlv )(XQLV TOV oVOVTOVv 6& o'06evl Oi6eV, JTdoTOTETOOYUTOV rTioTE1EJ rn?lyylkaTLo [Civ ECauTC ToiU aJiUo6actaEvoVg &zeQ aOTO;6 ?6ox(tat?v deg TOy jTCavTa(3iov EaUvT) o TE xcal a&kXl Xol Ugi yocL aOoYC g 19 T wpaveQog 15a Ibid. 1.2.60: oEoacaL. 6v, wog qv xcal 6Yr]LOTL'x6 xai (plAv0@Q6 C xaci o066vct voVug XaC3ibv EXELvog yQQ oXXo/ig ?jrOvUlVA]Tag Xaci aoTOvS Jt)TOTE [1(To06v Trgi ovvouo(Latg nelad'aTO, akk&a nrtaov acp06vcog ?'TrQX?l TOOV ECaVTOU . b Ibid. 1.1.10: xcali EXYyE&iv dog TO xOkU, TOLg6e foVkXodvolg Eriv acxovElv. Cf. Dio 54.2-3 Bude, Liban. Decl. 2.1.4. "Atiov 6' aoTiou xai C& Qog (87 A 3; II 335.17-336.1): t TOv ooq)tOlTrV 6teXX0q[U] 'AVTllq(VTXa CacQakXlrlv. 6 YOQ 'AvTLItXv JTOTE 10Ot caio aQek oiaOL aQooeXOCbv Ty) 1ox0Q&TEl pouvk6otvog TOVUgouVvoa(JLaag ) C[ V ()[t]YV TOMg jTaQovTmov aCloWv XeSee '2Q LxQatTegS, O/ T6Te' a 6 EAOI 6oxCie yiyvE(oOal' XQ]VGal E6alO[(ov?oT'?Qov q(jkooo0ovvTLaog 19 T 16 Ibid. 1.6.1-5 ca TdvaUvTia lg] (tlkXoooqi o.okgrvxval. -fg o6' &v Eig s yoiv ocog ;g 6o0hog n56 6eo't6rn6 6LaTc'rd)t?vog [teivSEte' oiLTr TE oJLT'rxal jroTL MviYEtg Tr L EOV a[tj t ob [Povov (aWvkov, XkkC TOctlTO 0QEoug TE (awvkXoTaT, xaci LlUTov xcal XE)(?Lpvog, &vUJt668TO6g TE xali aXiTcov 6CaTeX[g. xali B/Iv XQltaTd( ye o0 C Xal xrT4ogvovg TE (O)Qatv?E Xoal XEXTY1i[VOVg EkEVOEQLO)TeQOV Xac.3[veLg, ol xal xal TWV&XXWcviQYOV0 616a0xkXool Iog ei ,. 6ilov JTOLET?l oi'v 6oate ECUUTcov OUTic XUal 0U To'g ovvVOVTr ; aTo6eLXVUovolv, g [La9OYTdr [tL[r]TOg C xal 6 xCXQatTrlg JTQO v6[1 xaLxo6caL1oviag; 6L86doxaXkog ei[a. 6tcarioeLg, TalrTa ?TU?E' AoxEi;go101, AvtlXv 'AVT, (OTE reT}aElOtgcLOE [cUkov anooave?v Rq,nE o'kr Tva e Co1 av ?XEo0Oaalr ?fv & orEQ }y)E 'E[O. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions gtf;v, ov CLASSICALANTIQUITY 48 Volume 4/No. 1985 1/April IJTLox?(XE?tEOa TI Xa?jtr6v ,o0qGoatL TO1 4Wto` i(oV. ?JTIV &TxQyd6?o0a0 &vayxa&6v kaC[3dvoivov &QyuQIov kXdpcOtV, eotl 19 T 17 Ibid. e [t&r Tt TO1; ~PV JrTeQov TOOTOgpEJ'&dv lio0O6v i po:Xwoltat; i kactL3dVOVTLOVOX avaxyxni 68Lt?ycxoY o J av e JTOTE6 'AVTlKXOV II 336.4-12): HnkLv (87 A3; ' 2wcoxQdT?ee El V Q TO(I liV oE 6(xaov 2OXQat?e, g?7c 6OXEI & FtOL XMLatog TO1TO O'eo o06 OJTTOVV [4OLxal lYUVOJXE?IV t??Ooxrv' ? 086' 68 acdog o JTCOO'TLOfV' 8OXe;ig ojvovoviahc aCyUQLov tQaCTTri.xaiLTOL TO YE iLtATOV f TIV 1.6.11-14 6(XLakEy6O?vog T OOOV & VO[tIi?, oo(lx6v votz)c0, 8E/ yOVv o0)evac Ti ,oyvaQYgl6OV o CLtlOVs?val oV?vt av iL OTt ] aU.Xo Tl W&Vx?X'TTpoa voi jtQotxac 6oLqg, akk' 01)' E?XaTTov TIg &alag Xafkbv. qXkov &I] OTt ?E xalt TIv o(VOV(LcaV ()OV TiV0og a&(Cv ELVal, xcal TacTqg av oOx E?aTTOv Tfrg &ctag orv av E?lqg, OTL obx ?'aJaTag ?JTri [v &aylOLov ExQgdTTOv. 8(xatog o)x av, [t6?v60g yE atlaC ?EJoTc'1a(vog. 6 be O)XQUaT)tg jTX?ov?ELa, oo4Xg 6? oixiacv JTI0g TaJTa ?lt?V' 'Q 'AVTI(XiIV, yJaQ' #ftiV VOtI?ETal Tr'V6'Oav xat TIV oFo(uav 6Oto/Lg ;?V xaX6v, 6a[to(og 8e alcoxQv 6IaTl?oaOM Evcal. Trv TE?yQ 6WQav ?av TI; Lgv 7tarX ay@UQ(o'i ov av Tig, yv8 TO POouXo!'vO, TE x&yaO6v xaXov xac jT6QVoV aIov jTooxaXkofoLV, ;?av &6 TOVTOV()lXoV o?aV1'T(O jtOItalT, TO) [Wv aLy/vQoLV oaJCLVTcogTovg ?Qgao/rv ovTa, oo(4(iav T/iV o()4gQOVa VO[IlO(?V' 6v [aJ)?gs JrOevovg] yJToxaCko0Vov,6oTtg ; pofUkO ?V(o M'cokoVvTag oo(iodLg 0 ( Tl aV av yv? ?(vd oxTv 6ovrt 6L6&d E)] dCyaCov (()iV xJTOLiLTCa, TOVJTOV a TO)xaWo jtoXLT jTooXEI, TaVTa JTOIIV. ??yo (' OVv xai VO[l:o?tV, x?yaco0 xv XVVl 'tib' aTog, QV0 do 'AVTI4X)V, ()ojT?Q dyae006 vLO f6ETat. .dXog T;tg ] ?av xai OUTO) xacl T:L ickov i(oiacti ?Xo ((Xkoig &yacOoig, a&ya96v, Tl o TVVLTj1tL jTCaQ')WV vvfyaO(a xal akolg 66iaoxco, do(q)XfiEo?ocla Tl aTO'o'g xaM To;g OqacVQOVg;TODV JTraXkal oJ4XV &V6Q(gV, o0g EXEIVOL tAg d&rjv' v ?Cv li[Xiotg oi;g q(|koig ygQdpaVTEg, dVE?klTT(OV xol\T o X TL xaL av xai yca 6bL'QXO[aiCL, 6gO(0)?v 7ya06v EXkEy6?[taO' VOt(liopEv XEg6o,. ?dv XkkXolg ()Lkoi yLyv)tE0c9a. XaTCkXijov ?E TI xa CL QooG6YOE?lV,ol6' OTI xai otL [LWV, E?iLv ot xal ?RaQX?EClav aCdv oV ejF dvv (og (i.e., Critobulus) yiyvWCoxE?g LutxQ jtOQLgoavT?gxaTaxkJio?iEv av &cpOovcia TIv ?;nV 6(atiaV. 19 T 18 Idem Oec. 2.8: (Soc.) xaci &o 19 T 19 Plato Apol. 19d8 ff.: . .. o06E 7' E? Tlvog XY]XOCaT? d)gyWo jati6?ME61v TOUTO XQL EjRXELQ) dVOQVj XaToUg taQCoTTO[aC,(O06 )(CaTCT aX)q0?g. 19 T 20 Ibid. 23b7-cl: 19 T 21 kaXL[VWV Ibid. t?v TE?Vla [VQla ELti 31b5-c3: TCaV'Ta xa jratC?X?Ek?VO[]V, i&d ,TIV TOV 0oov XaTQELCav. Etl f'EV TI &Ro TOVT0OV XJTX(avov xacl ELXo v TV(X XV k6yov' vv &V O 6TeQ? ito6YV & xai OTI ol xaTr]yoQOL TCkta k c&1TOL CavTa CvaCLoXVVTwojgoUTcO xaLTYyoQoOvTEg TOUTO 7E oiX olo0 TE??EVOVTO JaTaCoQ6CXiEVOLdtaQTUvQa, Wdg Et(0 JTCCava0CLa7XVTJqoaLt JTOT:TivCLfl ?jgaTQCd[tqvflt QTvQCa0)g XtkqNflky TO[v JO6V fl ]Tro. lXCaVOVydQ, OLLaL, E?y o, ThV JT?viaV. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions JtaC?QXO)(Ia BLANK: Socratics vs Sophists on Payment 49 for Teaching 19 T jrCOJTOTE 22 Ibid. 33a5-b3: o6Evtl Rv Eqp06vroat, o06& Xqlt)(ala aot4dvowv 6tlatyo[alt, &ckk' 6ooW(o; xcai JTk^oviLOxal JTVqtTLJTaCQEX)( E}[aVTOV V aXOlUELV a)v EQ@ICtV, Xat ?alV TL5[3OVXlqTta &ajOXQLVa6tE[VO; XYO). 19 T 23a Ibid. b Ibid. 38b4: 19 T 24 37c4: ioco Idem La. ov yatQ oTilFiot Xriuta oT 6w'av 6bvct(atlv ?XTE?oui c 6liv 186c2-8 (Soc.): 60Ev eXTE-Loo) [sc., a fine]. rtOV (Iv&vaQyvQtov. c&kWaTOLT;AV (JooPLTULg ovx EX(O TClkEEV . . . iiO0o?I; . . . iLo6E O 19 T 25 Idem Resp. 338b5-7 cp ;g XdQLV (Soc. to Thrasym.): JOYOV 6& EJalvELv IE6qfl' EXTIV(O y?gQ 6rOTV 6VvaCtcl ctU[cal. Xflrq[ATa yUQ o)x EXO). EXTlVEiv, 19 T 26 P. Hibeh 182 (first half 3 cent. A.D.: E.G. Turner, "Life and Apoph thegms of Socrates," The Hibeh Papyri II [London 1955] 26-40) seems to contain (cols IV-VIII) Socrates' thoughts on the question of whether taking cTdV?a ii njtor6vog; allow him X'Ekv0eo0g flv 6LOiTcrOca,. Unfortu cannot be remarks reconstructed. the of nature Socrates' They nately, precise than to the precise issue of seem to go rather to the nature and uses of wealth money payment would for teaching. See the edition and commentary in I. Gallo, Frammenti Biografici da Papiri. II: La biografia deifilosofi (Roma 1980) 186-90, 205-11. This content downloaded from 194.29.185.25 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:52:18 PM All use subject to JSTOR Terms and Conditions