INTERVIEW How can Lean and VBHC be combined? Rob Dillmann & Fred van Eenennaam By Tahita Ringers – VBHC Center Europe What are the similarities between products or some services but not for outcomes of VBHC and Lean? medical practice. That is why VBHC is so important: to Rob: Both approaches have different roots but the core improve informed consent and define relevant goal is concordant: adding value to the patients. If you outcomes. However, VBHC now lacks a system in which look at hospitals that have worked with Lean (I prefer processes that do not add value are being removed. Continuous Improvement) you can see that the value Thus Lean can reinforce VBHC by optimizing the statement is leading in their execution, as is with processes and experiences in order to improve the value VBHC. In my opinion, the definitions of value by the equation. If we look at our care chain with patients with Mayo Clinic, Virginia Mason or Michael Porter are colorectal carcinoma, 200 different professionals identical. Thus it is important to first establish that working with the same patient group, often not both VBHC and Lean work with the same compass. knowing what the others are doing. Hence, we also need to map what process steps can be optimized in this Fred: We can see that the starting point of both journey. Lean can eliminate the waste by continuously principles is similar: adding value. In that perspective optimizing and improving the journey. I believe that in they can greatly reinforce each other, but we must note the process of operationalizing your strategy VBHC and that there is a slight difference in how value in both Lean can be great companions in creating added value approaches is established. VBHC principles rely on the to the patients. co-creation of value, co-creation between the patient and family and between the healthcare professionals “It is important to establish that both VBHC and the teams. Whereas Lean principles of value focus and Lean work with the same compass” on creating more value for patients or costumers with fewer resources. Fred: Both Lean and VBHC emphasize the importance of value for the patient or consumer. This goes hand in What are the differences between hand with continuous improvement based on outcomes VBHC and Lean? within the team. Lean on the one hand, translates these Rob: If we look at both concepts in their purest form, improvements into process developments whereas we encounter the misunderstanding in Lean thinking VBHC translates improvement into interaction and that if you focus on the process, the outcomes will learning cycles. Furthermore, Lean emphasizes on follow. In contrast, if we look at VBHC we see the reducing unwanted/unnecessary variation and VBHC misunderstanding that if you focus on the outcomes the aims to create meaningful variation to the patients. process will follow. Thus VBHC and Lean differ in the Lastly, Lean optimizes activities from a process flow way they operationalize their value statement as they perspective, whereas VBHC starts with the patient, have opposite starting points. In my opinion, both ways family, health care professional and the team and the of operationalizing are wrong. If we look at the distinct way in which they organize the flow can differ. This features of our healthcare system, the market decides could be from a process flow perspective but other what value is. This is easy to define with industrial perspectives can also be considered. 22 VBHC THINKERS MAGAZINE – VBHC PRIZE 2018 EDITION | APRIL 2018 INTERVIEW What is the biggest challenge? Rob: The biggest challenge is breaking trough the silo’s and rigid organisational structures that already exist, that is one of the main problems in Dutch health care in general. Thus the main question we have to answer is: how do we defeat the internal friction in already existing hospital structures? Because the electronic patient systems are not up-to-date and our financial systems are not there yet. In order to create more value to the patients we therefore need to look differently at our existing systems and deal with the internal friction, a major challenge. What is your best advice to other healthcare “Lean: if you focus on the process, the professionals? outcomes will follow. In contrast, if we look at Fred: I would suggest that we mainly focus on medical VBHC we see that if you focus on the outcomes conditions and patient variability, where Lean could the process will follow” beneficially reinforce VBHC. We must cautiously consider that patient value is not identical in both tools Can you name some examples in and that Lean or VBHC can still be used exclusively. We The Netherlands? increasingly understand the added value of combining Rob: At Isala we have incorporated Lean and VBHC the tools and the possibilities they jointly have for the into our care chain. We are well acquainted with Lean future. Provided that together with the team, patients for years and have developed some experience in VBHC and family both value definitions facilitate better of the past five years. We have started combining the outcomes for patients and lower costs per patient two approaches in our fertility clinic and oncological journey, we are well on our way. center, but are expanding to other departments as well. I am sure that there are at least two other major Rob: I would suggest combining Lean and VBHC. To hospitals in The Netherlands that combine the two. I illustrate my statement: last week there was some news hope the number will grow in the coming years. . regarding the treatment of depression and the Personally I am a great supporter of the systematic discussion which of the two treatments would be better. combination of VBHC and Lean because I believe it to In the end, after a lot of research, they discovered that a be very logical. combination of both works best. That is the same for VBHC and Lean: combination therapy for the hospital. APRIL 2018 | VBHC THINKERS MAGAZINE – VBHC PRIZE 2018 EDITION 23