Index of Contents
Regular Features
About the Cover Pictures and Editorial
The AGM Open Day
News from the Secretary News from the Groups
News from the Projects Co-ordinator
News from the Services Manager
Forgotten Trades
News from the LRFHS Library
News from the Record Office
Query Box
Computer Bits
Your Web Master's Report
Letters to the Editor
New Members
Members Interests
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Toni Smith
Peter Cousins
Ray Broad
Mick Rawle
Mike Hutchinson
Mick Rawle
Barbara Harrison
Pat Grundy
Mike Ratcliff
George Smith
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Your Articles
The Royal Leicestershire Regiment
Eliza E – A Lady with Five Maiden Names
A Model Ancestor
The Wesleyan Methodist Historic Roll
Ordering Certificates using the Internet
Burial Law and Policy in the 21st Century
A Grave Error?
'Lost' at Sea
Thomas Goddard – The Merchant Taylor
Much Binding in the Marsh
Pity the Poor Husband
Check those Resources – More than Once
Frederick Bailey Deeming
The Starmers of Cosby and Kettering
Solving a Family Mystery
Hilda Cobb
Colin Moroney
Bill Orange
Eric Orbell
Maggie Loughran
Ken Brockway
Liz Adams
Craig Stringer
Julie Goddard
Valerie Joyce
Mike Hutchenson
Douglas Poulter
Janet Deeming
Dr Ian Payne FSA
Ann Cave
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Society Events and Family History Updates
Forthcoming Events including dates of Bus Trips
A2A Update March 2004
Adopt a Book
The National Archivist On-Line
New Edition of the National Burial Index
Interesting Web Sites
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Centre Pages
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G.R.O. Birth, Marriage & Death Indexes Search Service
I85I and 1881 Leicestershire Census Search Service
L.R.F.H.S. Bookstall, Postal Book Services
Publications Avaliable on Microfiche
Printed Publications
CD Publications of Leicester, Leicestershire and Rutland Indexes
Post Supplies Order Forms
Postage and Packing Rates
Coach Trips – Booking Forms
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About the Cover Pictures……………..
The Front Cover
This postcard of Leicester Clock Tower postmarked 1911 was loaned by
member Peter Wilford and locally posted to an address in Fosse Road. Did the
people of Leicester resent the coming of the trams – seeing only the wires and
tram lines?
The Back Cover
This postcard was posted in 1916 to the editor's father-in-law in Peterborough,
from his brother. The script says "Thought you would like a p.c. of Francais up
to date. Fresh air is plentiful there I expect so it will always be 'Voila la porte'. I
shall soon be able to parler francais".
It is from my own collection of postcards from WW1. – Editor.
Editorial – Toni Smith
My thanks to all the members who met me on the CD's stall at the AGM – and
apologies from me that I was too busy to chat for any length of time. It was a
great day and all went without a hitch.
In the Journal No 114, I asked members to contact me if they had impaired
vision and would like the journal in larger format. As I received only one reply,
the committee have deferred the larger printing for the time being, however it is
something that we will review from time to time.
Over the last few weeks I have been finding out about a Leicestershire man
called William Voss (born around 1820), who was transported to Western
Australia in 1852. I have been amazed at the amount of information I have
gathered and I am hoping to write an article about him for publication. It has
certainly been a change from the usual family tree research – looking into such
things as ships lists and of course my pet subject of Quarter Sessions. A lot of
information was found in-line on the PROCAT site. Well worth a visit if you
have not yet ventured there – especially those who cannot get to Kew.
The next Journal will celebrate the 30th year of the Society. If you have any
recollections about 30 years ago I would be delighted to hear from you, but
remember I did put together a feature on recollections of Leicester in the 25th
anniversary Journal. It made me realise that I have been doing the Journal for
about 6 years now. How time flies!
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AGM & Open Day 2004 -Sunday March 14th
From the Society Chairman
The day started with overcast grey skies, and I was worried that attendance
would be low after the previous years’ brilliant sunny day. I need not have
worried as once again our members did us proud. By the opening time of 10 am
there was a queue forming to sign in and people were still coming in at
lunchtime! Members came from as far as Suffolk, Cheshire, Yorkshire and even
Canada and California!
The bookstalls and all of our experts were kept busy right from the opening,
and by the time the AGM started at 11am, we had to import more chairs. It was
easily the best attended AGM we have ever had, which went very smoothly,
with many useful suggestions and questions received from the floor under “Any
Other Business”.
With the Committee elected for 2004-5, we were treated to two excellent and
well attended talks by Michael Gandy and Richard Ratcliffe in a separate
lecture room. I was very pleased to receive comments of approval afterwards
for our choice of speakers – the only problem now being how to follow them
for next year.
During the time of the lectures, the bookstalls and expert help desks were kept
busy, especially George Smith our Webmaster who came over from Jersey
especially for the weekend. The catering helpers provided over 200 cups of tea
and coffee.
My personal thanks must go to all the helpers who gave their time freely to
provide an excellent day out for our members and visitors, and as I said earlier,
how do we follow it for next year… … … … … … … .watch this space!!
Peter Cousins, Chairman.
News from the Secretary – Ray Broad
The AGM, held on the 14th March at Beauchamp College was a great success
thanks mainly to the considerable efforts put in by a number of volunteers.
About 150 members and friends attended the actual AGM with something
approaching 300 people attending at some time during the day.
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A number of issues were raised in the queries section at the end and the
Executive Committee is considering all of these. As and when we resolve these
queries, the results will be published in this column.
Two of them can already be answered.
We were asked if it was feasible to produce the material we now put on CDs on
fiche. The answer is generally no. The data sets used on the CDs are now so
large that it has become uneconomical to have the master fiche made. To give
an example, the 1851 Census Index for the City of Leicester would need an
outlay of many hundreds of pounds and we would have to sell a full set for over
£100 a time. This is one of our smaller data sets. However, to help in our
library, we will print out hard copy sets to be used for reference.
Secondly, we were asked about the publication of Monumental Inscriptions.
We hold quite a number of these in hard copy. We have already started putting
these into Adobe Acrobat format so that they can be published on CDs in
batches later this year.
Wanted
I announced at the AGM that I would resign from the Secretary’s post by the
autumn of this year, so the Society is actively looking for a new Secretary. I
cannot pretend that it is a simple job, but for anyone with some spare time and a
little organisational ability it can be very rewarding. I am including a copy of
the current job description so if you are interested please contact me or the
Chairman and we can then discuss it further.
SECRETARY - Job Description
?? To deal with general correspondence received by the Society.
?? To be the main contact for the Society with the Federation of Family
History Societies.
?? To be the main contact in joint discussions with other local FHS.
?? To ensure that the Society complies with all relevant legislation that
may affect it.
?? To be the named contact with the Charity Commissioners.
?? To carry out all administrative duties relative to general meetings of
the Society. (Executive Committees, AGM or EGM) including notices,
agendas and minutes.
?? To act as liaison between the Executive Committee and the Groups,
especially involving the coordination and production of annual
Programmes.
In the centre of this Journal you will find copies of the Annual Accounts and
the Annual Report for 2003. Please contact me if you require a further copy of
either.
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News from the Groups
Computer Group
Evington Village Hall, Church Road, Evington, Leicester
7.30pm (plenty of free car parking)
CHAIRMAN RAY BROAD, 11 Spring Lane, Wymondham LE14 2AY
Secretary@lrfhs.org.uk
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June 7
July 26th
Sep 27
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Forthcoming Meetings
Publishing your Family Tree
Absolute Beginners
Parchment
& What is available at the Research Centre
Making your own Web page--
TBA
Reviews
March -The Use of Search Engines in Family History - Peter Cousins
With over 4.2 billion sites on the World Wide Web at the last count, and a
number which is growing every day, some means of finding the needle in the
proverbial haystack is clearly desirable. This is where the advent and rapid
development of increasingly sophisticated search engines can so useful to all of
us. Over 70 members and visitors were in Evington Village Hall to hear our
Chairman, Peter Cousins, deliver a well researched and presented talk on search
engines and how to get the best out of them.
Google is probably the most widely used engine, but there are now many
others, and even search engines that search search engines! However, the best
of them probably doesn’t provide more than 25-50% coverage of available sites
- so, if you don’t find what you are looking for first time, don’t give up! Search
again with another search engine or a metacrawler. Peter drew attention to the
importance of correct formatting when entering keyword and phrases in order
to get the best results. We were also taken into the hidden depths of Google,
reaching the parts that many of us never knew were there in the first place!
We learnt about metasearch engines and meta crawlers, and about the everincreasing number of databases and indexes now to be found on the Internet.
Sites of particular interest to Family historians are Access to Archives (A2A),
the National Registry of Archives and the Commonwealth War Graves
Commission, to mention but a few! The medal rolls for all servicemen now on
card indexes in the PRO are being progressively placed on line and may be
searched. This work is expected to be complete by the end of 2004. Sites with
their own search engines devoted exclusively to Family History and Genealogy
are the well-known Family Search provided by the Church of LDS, Genuki and
Cyndi’s List. The evening was quite an eye-opener and there were quite a few
questions at the end of the evening. Thanks once again to Peter for another
stimulating evening full of interest.
D.M.Stead
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Hinckley
The Hinckley Library, Lancaster Road, Hinckley –
7.00 to 9.00 pm
CHAIRMAN
SECRETARY
BARBARA HARRISON, 114 Hinckley Road, Leic Forest East, Leics LE3 3JS
PAT CAMPTON, 88, Druid St. Hinckley, LE10 1QQ
Forthcoming Meetings
JULY
Aug 4th
Sep 1st
NO MEETING
Leics Record Office
Indexing
Pat Grundy
Mick Rawle
Reviews
3 March
The Poor Law
Jean Perry
Jean Perry paid a welcome return visit to tell us about the workings of the Poor
Law and workhouses. She said that from the 16C, parishes were responsible for
their own poor – providing shelter and food in return for 'work' for unfortunates
who mainly through no fault of their own, found themselves in need. Settlement
certificates were issued to enable people to find work outside their own parish.
Then in 1834 the new Poor Law Act set up larger Union Workhouses run by a
Board of Guardians. Life was grim in these places – families were split up on
entering – and people dreaded having to enter the workhouse. Jean told us
about Hinckley's workhouse, which could house 400 people, and read extracts
from an early minutes book. We were able to look at photos and records
afterwards – a most informative evening.
Pat Compton
Leicester
The Royce Institute, Crane Street, Leicester
CHAIRMAN
SECRETARY
7.30pm
PETER COUSINS, 13 Langton Road, Wigston, Leicester LE18 2HT
ANN COUSINS, 13 Langton Road, Wigston, Leicester LE18 2HT
Forthcoming Meetings: Jun 9th
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Jul 14
Aug 11th
Sept 8th
Poor Law Records
Anne Cole
Parish Registers
Confessions of a County Archivist
Skeletons in the Cupboard
Simon Pawley
Terry Wherry
Maureen Waugh
Reviews
March
Mr Trubshaw came to talk to us about Folklore and Family History that
Folklore was pertinent to individual families.
Each family had its own pet anecdotes and nick-names, originating in family
celebrations and events. Anyone expecting tales of ghosts and spectres or
traditional tales of Black Annis and Trulsa Dubb or Anatey War were sadly
disappointed
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We were given an interesting talk by Ian Small and his assistant. They both
work for the war graves commission, an organisation inaugurated just after
WWI to care for cemeteries created during the war to commemorate the 'fallen'.
They told us about the construction of the head-stones and the inscriptions,
chosen by the families of the servicemen. We learned how these cemeteries are
cared for. The ideal cemetery being quiet, green with roses, all kept in
immaculate condition. Thee are also memorials to naval service men who were
lost at sea. Many cemeteries commemorate theatres of war, all round the world.
Sadly, in under twenty years, the first world war cemeteries, were adding to
their numbers, in 1939-47 conflicts.
Mr Small advised us that his staff were able to help with research. Most of the
material available was now 'on line'. They can supply a photograph of any
gravestone from the cemeteries from anywhere in the world.
An interesting evening, bitter-sweet in many ways: keeping the memory of so
many lives sacrificed for King and country.
Loughborough
The Community Lounge, Burleigh Community College, Loughborough 7.30pm
CHAIRMAN
SECRETARY
Jun 11th
July
Aug
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Sep 10
MICHAEL HUTCHINSON, 197 Cole Lane, Borrowash, Derby DE72 3GN
MAGGIE HEGGS, 18 Tamworth Close, Shepshed, Leicester LE12 9NE
Forthcoming Meetings; Women at War
Possible visit to Taylor’s Bell Foundry
NO MEETING
Development of Local Co-Op
George Gamble
Denis Baker
Reviews
January:
Starting the new year was a very informative talk from Peter Cousins on using
computers and the internet. With slides and handouts on where to look on the
internet along with some of the best sites to look at and some of the pitfalls to
avoid it was a lively gathering.
February:
This was a very different and moving talk given by our Treasurer - Carole
Smith on Adoption. She started with an introduction to adoption and the
background to how some of the well known establishments came about. The
talk then moved to her own adoption and her finding she had a brother and her
quest to find him eventually leading her to find sisters and another brother, who
was present at the talk. This search lasted many years and Carole shared with us
the highs and lows. Thank You Carole.
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March:
We were thoroughly entertained by Liz Ward and her talk on What Mother in
Law never told me.
When Liz moved into her Mother in Laws house there was a treasure trove of
items. Things spilled out from every cupboard and draw. Items had
accumulated because as one generation died another generation moved in on
top of the stuff that was left.
To give us an idea when sorting items they had a sale and made £10,000. They
found 2 Victorian dresses and 4 Gentleman's waistcoats - the dresses have been
given to the museum. Liz bought along a small selection of the items that she
found and which all had a story including a helmet from Leicester Yeomanry.
A big thank you to Liz for an entertaining evening.
Maggie Heggs
Market Harborough
The Harborough Museum, Adam and Eve Street,
Market Harborough at 7.30pm
CHAIRMAN
SECRETARY
Jun 17th
July
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Aug 19
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Sep 16
JANE MOELWYN-HUGHES, 21 Launde Road, Oadby Leicester LE2 4HH
BARRY MANGER, 58 Gwendoline Drive, Countesthorpe, Leicester LE8 5SF
Forthcoming Meetings
Visit to Hallaton Museum & Village
NO MEETING
“Tell us the discoveries you have made”
“What my mother in law didn’t tell me”
Diana Courtney
Members Evening
Liz Ward
Reviews
February
After a short AGM at which the present committee were re-elected, Peter
Cousins the Society Chairman spoke about how he and Jean Perry (on behalf of
the society) traced the living descendants, some here in Leicester, of Joseph
Merrick (the Elephant Man) for a film company.
The documentary video made, was then shown about the genetic defects of
Joseph Merrick and the screening of the living relatives, putting genealogy into
a whole new light.
March
David Ramsey gave the members a fascinating story of the slate industry in
Leicestershire. Slate was formed by volcanic ash falling through water about 14
million years ago. It was used, not only for roofing and gravestones, but we
learned about the many other uses. The earliest known slate gravestone found
by the speaker is dated 1641, and these stones were carted to the graveyards by
horse and wagon. Many are very ornate.
The selling of slate started in the 1750's and the earliest Leicestershire slate roof
was in 1714. This stone was rarely used until this date because of the enormous
weight, so the roofs were mainly thatch. Other uses include clock dials for
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church towers, church building – when waste slate was used for the walls, the
banks of Cropston Reservoir is made if slate, as are many gate posts around
Groby. The latest fashion for using slate is for kitchen surfaces where the stone
is cut using a diamond edge saw. An interesting evening indeed.
David would like to hear from anyone who finds early slate gravestones – pre
1800 – especially those with carvings of angels.
David Ramsey, The Orchard Groby Leicester LE 6 0BA r73@beeb.net
April
A crowded room listened enthralled to Maureen Waugh, a member of our
Society, who gave an account of how she had researched the life of her paternal
Irish grandfather Thomas Hoy.
He was a civilian internee in Germany and eventually Roger Casement acquired
his release. Her facts were proved by certificates, census details, school records,
photographs and details of accounts found in the War Office papers deposited
at The National Archives at Kew.
Jane Moelwyn-Hughes
Melton Mowbray
The United Reform Church, Chapel Street, Melton Mowbray
at 7.30pm
CHAIRMAN
SECRETARY
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Jul 1
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Aug 5
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Sep 2
MICK RAWLE, 9 Witham Close, Melton Mowbray, Leicester LE13 0EA
CHERYL RAWLE, 9 Witham Close, Melton Mowbray, Leicester LE13 0EA
Forthcoming Meetings
A Private's Perspective of theGreat War
Outing TBA
Starting your Family History
Mary Powell
Mick Rawle
Reviews
At this years AGM Lesley Chaney, programme secretary for the five and a half
years the Melton branch has been meeting, stepped down.
She was thanked by the Chairman Mick Rawle and presented with a pot plant
by Cheryl Rawle. Jennifer Hill will take her place. The remaining members of
the committee, Ted Hill, Linda Brockway (publicity), Cheryl Rawle (treasurer)
were re-elected. Ted was thanked for all his input into those little jobs which
always need doing, refreshments, furniture moving etc. and Wendy and Eddie
Stevenson were thanked for running the bookstall each month.
Mick asked members for their ideas for this years outing in August – Taylor's
bell foundry had been suggested and this will be arranged. Mick Rawle
conducted the remainder of the AGM with his usual efficiency and speed,
breaking his own record of ten minutes for last years AGM.
Arthur Payne from Melton Photographic Society then gave an excellent talk on
'Melton then and now' using slides from old postcards and photographs fading
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into the present day view. His collection of material is so extensive he has had
to divide the talk into two and members agreed to ask him to return for a later
date to complete the historic tour through the town.
At Melton group's meeting on April 1st members were left thinking some of Dr
Simon Pawley's discoveries written in church registers were almost
unbelievable and could have been April Fools jokes if announced earlier in the
day. His expertise and research into parish records formed the basis of his talk
and proved to be of great interest to both family and local historians.
He outlined the different periods of registers, what guide-lines, if any,
were given for keeping them and how and why entries might be missing.
As usual he was very well received by the audience, which included several
new faces.
Mick Rawle announced this year's outing in August would be to Loughborough
Bell foundry.
Rutland Group
The Rutland County Museum, Oakham
at 7.30 p.m.
CHAIRMAN
SECRETARY
Jun 14th
July 12th
Aug
Sep 13th
RAY BROAD, 11 Spring Lane, Wymondham, Leicestershire LE14 2AY
HILARY WALLACE, 25 Main Street, Empingham, Rutland LE15 8PR
Forthcoming Meetings
Follies & Curiosities of Leics & Rutland
Visit to Ruddington Framework Knitters Museum
NO MEETING
Snapshots of School Life in the C19th
Diana Courtney
Ray Broad
Previews
12 July Tour round Ruddington Framework Knitters Museum
Experience the sight and sound of working machinery and gain an insight into
the life and labour of a 19th century framework knitting community. Look
round the cottages and try your knitting skills.
August – No meeting
13th September – Snapshots of School Life in the 19th Century
Two interesting documents give an insight into Victorian school life.
11th October
Settlements and Poor Laws
Before the end of the nineteenth century, all our ancestors were affected in one
way or another by the Poor Law and the associated Law of Settlement. They
governed where they could live, where they could work, what level of support
they could get if they became destitute – even their sexual morality. This talk
will look at how these laws worked, what they meant to our ancestors, and how
we can use them to get an insight into their lives.
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News from the Projects Co-ordinator
Mick Rawle
Many thanks once again for all your hard work. This time I am giving you a
change from the usual list of progress on our projects - here is a list of our
achievements during the three years that I have been Project Coordinator. I set
out my aims in the June 2001 Journal, so let’s have a look at how we are getting
on. Is it only three years? It feels longer than that!
For those of you who have been involved with any project during that time,
here is a list of what you have done.
1851 Census
Borough of Leicester
60,000 names
Rutland
20,000 names
1861 Census
Leicestershire
140,000 names
Borough of Leicester
70,000 names
1891 Census
Leicestershire
230,000 names
Borough of Leicester
140,000 names
Rutland
20,000 names
2nd CD of County Burials (extra to the previous CD)
90,000 names
Borough of Leicester Marriage Index
13,000 names
Leicestershire & Rutland Poor Law Index
30,000 names
Leicester P Rs for the Leicester Project CD
Approx : 100,000 names
That makes a Grand Total of over 900,000 names
And of course that isn’t all because there are unfinished projects like the 1861
Census for Rutland which will add another 20,000 names, plus the County
Burial Indices, where we have done over 30,000 extra names so far, and the
Quarter Session Index which is adding a further 20,000 names, and the Welford
Road Cemetery project which when finished, will add a mere one hundred
thousand names to what we have done already. There are ongoing projects
doing marriage indices for All Saints and St Mary’s Leicester, and Baptisms for
St Margaret’s Leicester, and of course one or two more parish projects have
been done and sent to Charleen Dunn for the second of her Leicester Project
CDs, due out next year.
So folks, I reckon we have indexed over a million names – Wow !
Now that is something to be very proud of, what a team – give yourselves a pat
on the back. WELL DONE!
And what can I offer you in the future – more projects - the 1871 and 1841
censuses, plus a host of smaller projects. Let us hope that the next three years
are just as successful.
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News from the Services Manager –
Mike Hutchinson
The following notice applies to all members… …
Members Interests
Those who have recently submitted interests may have noticed some changes
recently. These were brought about by a comprehensive review of our
responsibilities under the Data Protection Act.
Initially on the first submission I requested approval to distribute names,
addresses and e-mail addresses. Only when I received approval would the data
be placed on the web site, naturally there have been some members who have
not responded to this request, and in consequence their interests do not appear.
Now Peter Cousins has changed the input screen to include boxes which must
be filled in to show agreement or not.
The Act is an “opt in” so that each member has to agree to their details being
supplied. To date some have asked that no details are supplied, and some have
requested e-mail only. It is essential that all members who have Membership
Interests give their approval/disapproval/limitations. Could I therefore ask you
to either e-mail me or write to me, indicating if they agree or disagree with the
following. “That your address and e-mail address can be supplied to any person
requesting it via the Members Interests Web Site.
“This may be either within or outside the European Economic Area.”
Ultimately any member that does not indicate agreement will have their
interests removed from the web site.
A Members Only postal search can now be offered on the same terms as Strays,
(3x2nd class stamps (or equivalent) per surname, plus s.a.e), it is essential that
the maximum information is given such as surname, location and date.
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Editor: Members interests and addresses will NOT be published in the journal unless
the applicant's signature is supplied on the appropriate membership
application form. The Society's obligation is to comply with the data
protection act. We need your permission to publish your information
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The Royal Leicestershire Regiment – by Hilda Cobb
The Royal Leicestershire Regiment - "The Tigers" - needs to raise £250,000 to
secure its history for the future by creating a new Museum. This Museum,
together with the Regimental Chapel and Royal Tigers Wood, will form the last
visible testimonies to this famous Regiment to serve as reminders to future
generations of the glorious part it played in the life and history of the City,
County and Nation.
A partnership between Leicester City and the Trustees of the Regimental
Museum has been formed to upgrade the present Newarke Houses Museum in
an ambitious project costing £1.5 million, based on a bid to the Heritage
Lottery Fund for a grant of £1million The partners have made this bid on a
matched funding basis with each partner providing £250,000. This means that
the Regiment must find £250,000 as its share, by public appeal, by early 2005.
Extra space and the use of modem display techniques will allow us to illustrate
fully the 300 years' history of the County's Regiment.
The County's Regiment was first raised in 1688 as the XVII Foot and served
continuously until amalgamation into the present Royal Anglian Regiment in
1964. Over almost 300 years the Regiment served with great distinction worldwide, gaining an impressive list of Battle Honours - from the War of Grand
Alliance in the late 17th century to Quebec under General Wolfe, India for 19
years' unbroken service in the early 19th century for which they were awarded
the famous Tiger badge, the Afghan Wars, Crimea and the Boer War.
In the Great War the Regiment fielded 19 battalions and lost 8,600 killed. In the
Second World War the six battalions fought in every theatre: Norway, North
Africa, Crete, Burma, Italy, France, Belgium, Holland and into Germany. For
this service the Regiment was awarded the title "Royal" in 1946. From then
until amalgamation, the Regiment served in Korea, Germany, Sudan, Cyprus,
Brunei, Aden and Borneo.
In September they won a £1 million grant, so that £250,000 still had to be
raised. In February the Regiment had passed the £150,000 mark. It now needs a
final push to achieve the goal of £250,000 by 2005.
For information about the fund-raising campaign, contact the Royal Tigers
Association at RHQ The Royal Leicestershire Regiment, TA Centre,
Ulverscroft Road, Leicester. LE4 6BY. Tel 0116 262 2749 or
E-mail
anthony. swallow@)care4free.net
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Eliza E … a Lady with Five Maiden Names.
By Colin Maroney
Back in the late 80’s, on visits to my late mother in my home town of Skipton,
West Riding, she agreed to make some notes on her parents and grandparents.
These lay on one side until 2 years ago when, having retired, I had the time to
look into my Family Tree. The 1881 census on CD was a most useful
Christmas gift.
Mother had written that her grandparents were James Staples from Hereford &
Elizabeth Mauven (=1) “from Wales” and “Aber?”. They had moved to
Skipton by 1900 and of their 13 children, only 5 had survived, and there was a
list of their names.
I first sorted out her parents, George Wilkes & Louisa Jane Staples, getting
their marriage cert & Louisa Jane’s birth cert which stated the mother was Eliza
Elizabeth Staples formerly MOWAN (=2).
Then the 1881 Census gave James and Eliza E Staples, in Herefordshire, aged
25 and 26 respectively, born in Allensmore, near Hereford and also a daughter
aged 3 (not one who was on my mother’s survival list).
I checked marriages for James between 1872 and 1878, and the year of birth of
daughter, and there was only one in all Herefordshire. Eventually, checking all
Elizabeth & Eliza MO… .Ns, I found the corresponding ONS number which
belonged to an Elizabeth MORGAN (=3). Incidentally, I could find no
Mauvens or Mowans in the births, marriages and deaths, nor did the IGI
suggest alternatives.
She was 20 years old on the marriage certificate in Feb 1876, so her birth was
around 1855/6. Her father was named as Joseph.
James and all his siblings were born in and registered at Leominster District. I
presumed therefore that Eliza E was also born there. I checked the births for
Eliza and/or Elizabeth Morgan 1853-58 and found 2 for Leominster and 3 for
Hereford Districts. Letters were sent to the Registrars, but the replies told me
that their fathers were not Joseph! Was I going daft?
When the 1901 Census was at last available on line details were the same as
1881, except they were exactly 20 years older and it named all 5 of the
surviving children. The eldest was born nr Leominster, the youngest in Skipton,
a difference of 17 years. I purchased the birth certificates. The mother on one
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was Eliza Elizabeth and on the other Elizabeth Eliza, with the same surname of
MORVAN (=4). Was this for real?
Getting desperate, I remembered the 1881 daughter & sent for her B Cert. The
Registrar admitted it was indistinct, thought it was MORRIAN (=5) and sent
me a photocopy of the entry. It was Eliza Elizabeth and there was a definite “i”
and a clear dot!
I was by now somewhat flummoxed but I had another browse at the births
index and realised there were a lot of Elizabeth/Eliza Morgan’s at
Abergavenny. What had my mother written? Geography lesson. Allensmore is
S.W. of Hereford on the A65 trunk road leading to Monmouthshire (Wales) and
the town of Abergavenny!! Was this the break I needed? Another look at the
births and there were SIXTEEN of her name in that time scale. A solicitous
letter to Abergavenny was sent and back came the reply, surprise, surprise, no
father was called Joseph!
I then spoke to Leominster’s Registrar, confirming the details in a letter, asking
them to re-look and compare together the various birth certs of the children to
confirm the surname. They were very good indeed, finding seven and affirming
on reflection they are all MORVAN and one MORVIAN. Harrogate also
confirmed it was definitely MORVAN.
There were two births of Morvans' in Herefordshire, neither was Eliza or
Elizabeth, but could they be her sisters? No, as they were different parents and
neither father was Joseph. Not much help there.
I then wrote a solicitous letters to all 3 Registration Districts, re-listing the data,
asking them to check this time for the place of birth only. I asked them to
ignore the father’s name - after all, if Eliza E had 4 variations of her forenames, perhaps her father was similarly profligate and had used one name for
her birth & another on her marriage. However, you’ve guessed it – absolutely
not one of them was born in Allensmore.
I feel there is a brick wall all around me. Did I go fundamentally wrong
anywhere? Or missed something?
I obviously will check for Allensmore both in the 1861 census and the Parish
Register but not much help if she was not christened there, and her parents,
being Welsh (?), may well have been Non-Conformist.
Would a visit to the PRO & GRO in London help, and in what way?
Any suggestions for other course of actions would be gratefully received –
Colin Maroney, 29, Carisbrooke Gardens Leicester LE2 3PR
Tel 0116 270 6656
mmaroneyh@yahoo.co.uk
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A Model Ancestor?
By Bill Orange
Many researchers discover that they have ancestors who are not good models
for their descendants.
During a trip to England I met a relative who told me of a David ORANGE,
who had left his wife and four year old son in Leicester and gone to New
Zealand in 1861 with his two brothers, ostensibly to make their fortunes.
They were sons of David ORANGE, born 1801
in Osseff, Dewsbury, near Wakefield, WRY,
who in the 1851 Leicester Census was recorded
as a Worsted Manufacturer at Crow Mills,
Wigston, employing eighty-nine hands, living in
New Walk. Orange Street is adjacent to the mill
site and no doubt housed some of the mill
hands. His wife, Mary Ann SHEEN was born
about 1805 in Leicester and they were married
in 1824 at St Margaret's, Leicester. Of their
eleven children, only four were boys, and it
seems three of them were in their father's bad
books, as they embarked on the Zealandia in
November 1860, David aged 25, William aged
22 and Albert aged 18. They arrived in Auckland, New Zealand, in February
1861, proceeding to Christchurch, then to Dunedin where they joined the gold
miners in Central Otago. David then became a feilmonger and butcher, William
a labourer, and Albert a railway employee.
My English relative told me that David bigamously married someone in New
Zealand and had several children. I knew of David, and indignantly retorted
that as his wife had refused to come to New Zealand when he sent for her, he
was legally entitled to marry again on the grounds that his former wife had
deserted him! I had records of David being a butcher in Switzers, Central
Otago, and having children's births registered in Mt Benger, Switzers in 1868 &
1872, in Nokomai in 1870, in Lauder Creek, Blacks in 1874 and in
Christchurch in 1876 & 1878. There was also a girl born in 1871 whose birth
does not appear to have been registered. I have her marriage certificate. Neither
could I find a record of the marriage of David to this young girl, but then I
know that there are errors in the BDM Index, and anyway, Switzers, a gold
mining township since abandoned, was a long way from civilisation, and
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travelling officiating ministers have been known to lose the record of the
marriage before they get around to registering it! Or so I rationalised. I also
have a record of his English son, William David's voyage to New Zealand in
1878 to try and persuade his Dad to return to England and his wife.
Recently I had an email from a lady in Dargaville, near the top of the North
Island of New Zealand, who had been given my address by the relative I had
met in England. She would like to know more about the ORANGE brothers
who came out from England with her great grandfather, David. One of the
brothers, Albert Edward, was my great grandfather, so we shared the results of
our research. I learned that her David did not marry the girl, known to me as
Isabella Catherine ISTEED. She arrived with her parents in Otago from
Calcutta, India, via Victoria, Australia on 28 November 1855, aged four, under
the name of Charlotte. She would have been seventeen when her first child was
born in 1868. The birth certificate shows the mother's name as Isabella
Catherine ORANGE, nee ISTEED. I also have the death certificate recording
the same information for Eva, born Sydenham, Christchurch on 27 July 1878,
who died on 20 February 1879.
From Dargaville I received the record of a marriage of Charlotte Clementina
ISTEED to James DIXON in Patea, Taranaki, she aged 35, a spinster, he aged
21 a bachelor, occupation feilmonger. They had been in Patea for two and three
months respectively. The date was 3 September 1888. By this time David
ORANGE was managing a feilmongery in Christchurch. In the same week I
received from a cousin in Takaka, at the top of the South Island, the coroner's
report of David's death in Christchurch, in which Isabella DIXON swore '~she
had been living in the capacity of housekeeper for the deceased for nineteen
years", and "I was outside when my boy Albert came and told me that his father
had taken the two bottles of chlorodyne".
Sadly Isabella DIXON died in Wellington Hospital from post-operative shock
after suffering from cancer for five months. The death certificate records her as
Isabella DIXON, only the surname of ISTEED for her parents, her age 35, born
Calcutta, with no mention of husband or children. So, she never married David
ORANGE, had seven children by him, married someone else much younger
who was a possible employee of David's in September 1888, was David's
housekeeper when he ~~from an overdose of chlorodyne inadvertently taken by
him did die and not otherwise" in March 1889, some six months later, then
dying herself January 1892 age 35.
Rather than being like the American woman, I am keen to learn more. Why did
the three brothers leave Leicester? What happened to David's children, aged
from 12 to 21 when their father died? Why did Isabella marry DIXON who
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appears to have deserted her? Why did she use different Christian names,
Isabella Catherine and Charlotte Clementina? Did the marriage contribute to the
inability of David to sleep, thus causing him to increase the dosage of
chlorodyne until he overdosed?
For the benefit of any of my siblings and descendants who may read this, my
great grandfather, Albert Edward ORANGE, was aged nineteen and single
when he left Leicester, England, and was ninety-five when he died of natural
causes.
The Grange, Glen Parva. near
Wigston, which I understand was
owned by David & Mary Orange
and is where the three sons who
came to NZ were born. When it
was sold a large part of the Estate
was used for a military barracks.
(see query box in Journal 115 –
asking for information on this
family)
William G (Bill) ORANGE, 26A Cole Street, Masterton, New Zealand
WoandMO@xtra.co. nz
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All types of Records researched
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Forgotten Trades - by Mick Rawle
Inkle Weaver
Maker of a coarse thin tape used for tying shoes or
aprons. He also had another job title – Beggar’s Inkle,
because it was often made and sold by beggars.
Jack Frame Tenter No, he didn’t make frame tents. He worked in the cotton
industry and operated a Jack Frame that was used to twist
the threads.
Jagger
Now where have I heard that name before? Lots of
different uses of this word for jobs, here are three: ?? In 19th Century Derbyshire he was a young boy in
charge of ‘jags’- trucks in a coal mine;
?? A man with a pack horse taking iron ore to be
smelted;
?? Early 20th Century London businesses employed
Jaggers – uniformed messengers.
Jews Poker
If there are any Jewish people out there then I would like
to know why Jewish people employed this person to light
their fires on their Sabbath. Weren’t they allowed to light
their own fires?
Journeyman
I often get asked about this. It could refer to any trade, it
was the name given to a man who had finished his
apprenticeship, and wasn’t tied to any Master
Tradesman. Lots of you will have heard my talk about
my Great Great Grandad Samuel Rawle the Journeyman
Hatter born in Cornwall in 1795 and died on Shap Fell in
1837.
And Now for some Odd Names…………
Here is another selection to delight you all, mostly taken from the 1861 Census
that I am just finishing off: Full Names
Wonderful spellings of Christian Names
Jottamiah Allen
Neomy
Mehetabel Ashwell
Harrowbellie
Phronessia Biddle
Hemmer
Metzina Glover
Allywishus
Rechabina Ludlam
Bartholumu
Perpetua North
Georgehiner and
Zemorah Tipper
Henryetter DRAYCOTT
(These two were sisters!)
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The Wesleyan Methodist Historic Roll
By Eric Orbell
You may have seen in the August 2003 Family Tree Magazine that the
Wesleyan Methodist ‘Million Guinea Fund’has now been put onto fiche and is
available to the public.
For those of you who didn’t see the article by Richard Ratcliffe, in 1898 the
Wesleyan Methodists launched a building fund in order to build what is now
the Methodist Central Hall in Westminster. It was agreed that each member
would be asked for a maximum of one guinea (£1.05p) and children for a
maximum of one shilling (5p). However, it was also agreed that if a member
would like to donate a guinea ‘in memoriam’ for a loved one who had died or
emigrated then that was acceptable.
Before the fund closed the Boer War intervened but it eventually closed in 1908
when it had reached £1,073,682 and work began in on the building that was
officially opened in 1912. £700,000 of the fund was used to help build or
enlarge Wesleyan chapels all over the UK and abroad.
Each member, when contributing, wrote their name on special pages, which
were sent out to the different circuits in the country and abroad. They also, in
most cases, put an address (which included a street number where applicable)
and in some cases where money was donated in memory of a deceased relative
the date of death is given.
The Society has purchased the fiche covering Leicestershire & Rutland and I
have indexed them. The indexes are in the Society Research Centre in
Freeschool Lane as are the fiche. The indexes give the volume and folio
number of the entry, full name, address, any extraneous details (e.g. details of
deaths and emigrations), circuit and church attended.
There are over five thousand seven hundred different names in the 4 indexes.
The fiche are well worth looking at if your ancestor was a Wesleyan Methodist
at this time or earlier as you may find:1. A signature or at least the name written in the hand of a relative
2. An address including a street number
3. An exact date of death of a relative
4. Details of a relative who has emigrated
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5. Family relationships bracketed together in the books, which are not evident
from the index
6. The name of the Church which your relative attended which may surprise
you as it may not be the nearest!
If you have any queries after you have looked at the indexes I will be pleased to
try and answer them. Also if you find any errors in the indexing please let me
know as trying to transcribe signatures is not always easy!!
********************
Ordering Certificates using the Internet
A member tried to order a death certificate using the 1837online web site
recently and the order was not accepted. The reply she received from her
enquiry is as follows: What certificates can I order online?
For births, marriages and deaths registered in England and Wales, you may
apply online for any certificate if you have the full GRO index reference. In the
case of events in the last 50 years you will be prompted to supply further details
as you complete the online application form.
If you have not done your own searching in the GRO indexes, you may apply
online for any event that took place on or after 1st January, 1900 to 15 months
from current date, provided you know the exact date of the event. Again, you
will be prompted to supply further details for more recent births and deaths as
you complete the online application form. If you do not have the exact date of
the event or are unable to complete the mandatory fields, then you will not be
able to apply online. Details of how to make an application via telephone, letter
or fax can be found on the contact page of this site.
You can still apply using the other ordering methods (as in 2002) but it would
appear that for events that happened less than 50 years ago that they require
extra details if ordering online. If you need more information it may be worth
while contacting ONS directly. This of course may all change with the Civil
Registration review.
Maggie Loughran
Editor – to order a death certificate for anyone dying during the last 50 years,
who was 16 years of age or less at the time of death, certificates can be ordered
in person from the FRC, Myddelton Place, London. You will be required to
produce 2 forms of identification such as passport or driving license (a utility
bill will be accepted as one). This is under review.
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Burial Law and Policy in the 21st Century
Sent in by Ken Brockway
The Government are consulting on "Burial law and Policy in the 21st Century"
and seek comment from interested individuals or organisations by 13th July
2004.
The Government have identified issues in the burial process that need
addressing. At present there are three providers of burial services, the church,
Local Authorities and private companies all are governed in different ways. A
common framework of legislation is one option for change.
None of the above authorities have a duty to provide burial space. There is
concern that burial grounds are reaching capacity and there is no framework to
ensure future provision. There may not be a significant demand for burial as
70% of funerals are now cremations but there is a demand for the burial of
ashes.
The burial process, maintenance and record keeping is subject to regulations
but are those regulations being met? Should there be more effective
enforcement of the regulations.
There are circumstances when remains can be exhumed but the process to
achieve this varies between church law and civil law. There is already provision
for the mass clearance of closed burial grounds for development. For example,
building development and road construction. In these cases all evidence of
grave sites will disappear except perhaps if memorials are relocated.
The document then moves on to consider the re-use of graves. Until the middle
of the 18th century it was church practice to carry out new burials on ground
known to contain old remains. There is, however, no provision in secular law
for old burials to be disturbed. This prohibition appears to apply however old
the remains and licences are accordingly issued for the exhumation for
archaeological purposes.
Due to the pressure on land, especially in urban areas, the Government appear
to be considering the re-use of burial plots but acknowledge issues both below
and above ground. The document acknowledges the value of graves of
historical importance and memorials of cultural and heritage value. The
question is the level of importance of this cultural value and here Family
Historians may wish an input into the discussion. Can grave spaces be re-used
and retain the memorial of all those who's remain rest in the plot or is it
acceptable to keep only a written record of the previous use.
This is only a brief comment on a document that tackles issues in a sensitive
subject. It contains a list of consultees, which includes 'The Victorian Society'.
Absent is any group representing Family Historians.
A copy of the consultation document can be obtained from:Fiona Pembroke, Coroner Section, Communities Group, Home Office,
5th Floor, Allington Towers, 19, Allington Street, LondonSW1E 5EB
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A Grave Error?
By Liz Adams
My brother in law recently moved to a listed building in Boughton Monchelsea
in Kent. He was given a bundle of old papers by the previous owner – all
relating to the original owners of the house – a family called Seager, who were
stone masons. Amongst these papers was a transcription of the monumental
inscription from a grave in Boughton Monchelsea churchyard. The gravestone
had four sides and was in memory of John Seager, who died in 1858 aged 50,
and his wife and children. One of the inscriptions particularly interested me. It
read: Also rest the remains of
Mary and Susan
Infant daughters of John and Catherine Seager
Who died August 23rd 1850, aged 19 weeks
“ They were lovely and pleasant in their lives
And in death they were not divided”
I had already decided to do some more research
into the Seager family and began by checking
the births, marriages and deaths of all John
Seager’s children. The deaths of the twins on
the same day were unusual but not impossible.
The Gravestone
I was puzzled that I could find no record of their
deaths in 1850; nor could I find a record of their
births. This was odd, as the births of all the other children had been correctly
registered. I decided that the inscription on the gravestone had probably been
incorrectly transcribed. On checking the gravestone, I found that this was not
the case.
I decided to log on to the FreeBMD website to check on other Seager records in
the area of Boughton Monchelsea. There I found that the deaths of a Mary and
Susan Seager had been registered in the December quarter 1852, not in 1850. I
emailed the Maidstone register office and asked them if they could just tell me
if Mary and Susan Seager were twins. They emailed straight back to say, “Yes,
they were twins”. I then found their births correctly registered in the June
quarter 1852. I therefore surmised that the gravestone had probably been
erected some time after the deaths, and the person giving the information for
the inscription had made a mistake regarding the year of death.
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But still I was puzzled. The twins had died on August 23rd so the deaths should
have been recorded in the September quarter not December, and how had they
died? I sent off for the death certificates, and these revealed another “mistake”
in the inscription on the gravestone. Mary and Susan Seager had NOT died on
the same day – August 23rd 1850. Susan Seager had died on August 22nd 1852
and her twin sister Mary on August 26th 1852. Both died of “Diarrhoea” and the
deaths were not registered until 1st Nov 1852. We will probably never know the
reason for the delay in registering their deaths.
So even information found on gravestones needs to be verified. I wonder if any
other readers have found similar “mistakes” when investigating information
gleaned from monumental inscriptions?
Liz Adams
liza27@btopenworld.com
New Books
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The narrative encompasses 2000 years of English heritage and history that is
centred around Wigston, Leicestershire. This includes ancient beginnings and
reviews are made of associated events outside Leicestershire, including
Derbyshire and other towns in the Midlands.
Can be obtained from: Two Steeples Press, PO Box 7456, Wigston, Leicester LE18 1ZS
Price £10 including P&P
For Sale
Sadly, my father, W T Butler has died. He has kept copies of the Society
Journal since 1991 – No 65. Unfortunately I am unable to keep these journals
and wonder if anyone would like to buy them – buyer to collect.
Sue Coombs, The Outlook, Olive Grove, Stourport on Severn, Worcs
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‘Lost’ at Sea
by Craig Stringer
In the course of my research I have come across quite a few people who are
searching for relatives who have disappeared, and who believe their ancestor
may have gone down in a shipwreck. Most often, the search ends in
disappointment, but sometimes I can confirm that their ancestor was indeed lost
with the ship, and is lost no more. My research has also brought me across
people from Leicestershire who have been involved in shipwrecks, and I
thought that readers may be interested in hearing about them.
Perhaps the most famous shipwreck to begin with is the Titanic. Many people
seek information from the website
www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/index.php
in the hope of finding a relative on board the famous ship. Most are
disappointed. Family stories can be disproved quickly thanks to exhaustive
research into the ship. In many cases it turns out that the ancestor was not even
on the Titanic at all, but sailed on another vessel, and disappeared after their
arrival in the States. In some cases it is the name of the ship that is in error. I
was once asked to search for the first husband of Maggie Holwell, who was
supposed to have been lost on the Titanic. It transpired that Maggie’s husband,
Harry Arthur Smith, was a victim of the Lusitania in 1915. And it is certainly
true that people lost on shipwrecks in the same period as the Titanic, are often
placed mistakenly on the ship. The Titanic has stuck in the public mind,
whereas other vessels are long forgotten, and it is easy to confuse the story as
time passes.
There were though, at least two people with Leicestershire connections on the
Titanic. Mr Denzeil John Jarvis was a businessman who lived ‘The Crest’ in
Stoneygate, Leicester. A managing partner in the engineering firm of Wadkin &
Co, engineers, Jarvis was embarking on a six-week business trip to America,
where he would present a unique design of a motor car carburettor to Henry
Ford. He hoped that if successful, he would transform the company in
Evington. Jarvis had been born in Llangattock Juxta Caerleon, Monmouthshire,
in July 1864, but later moved to Leicester, where his father established a joinery
business. When the Titanic sank, Jarvis lost his life, and after, his widow,
Margaret, erected a memorial cross to his memory in the churchyard of St.
Mary’s, Knighton.
At the other end of the social scale, Charles Biddlecomb was a fireman in the
Titanic’s boiler rooms. He had been born in Leicester and was 33 years old.
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Prior to sailing on the Titanic, Charles had worked on the Olympic, the sister
ship of the Titanic. Charles was on duty when the Titanic sank, and remained
below to draw the fires from the ship’s boilers, thus reducing steam pressure,
and preventing an explosion of the boilers when the cold sea water reached the
hot metal. Like Jarvis, Biddlecomb died when the Titanic sank.
Before the Titanic there had been other wrecks involving Leicestershire people.
On March 30th 1899 the steamer Stella left Southampton on a routine crossing
to Guernsey and Jersey. The forthcoming Easter holiday meant that many
people had boarded the vessel looking forward to spending a relaxing few days
in the Channel Islands. The voyage began smoothly, but the Stella soon
encountered fog. The captain, William Reeks, continued to drive his vessel at
high speed, and at 4pm the vessel struck the Casquet Rocks. It took just twelve
minutes for the Stella to sink, carrying over one hundred people to their deaths.
Travelling on the Stella were cousins, Alfred Baxter and Arthur Henry Wilson.
Both men worked in the shoe trade. Baxter had been born in Leicester in 1873,
and lived at 60, Oak Street. Wilson had been born in the parish of St.
Margaret’s around 1868. He had married Emily Travis in 1888, and by 1899
the couple were living at 12, Sherrard Road, with their four children. Arthur
had been in poor health, and it was hoped that the milder climate of Jersey
would be of benefit. Sadly, he was never to find out as both Alfred and Arthur
died when the Stella was wrecked.
On November 18th 1905, the steamer Hilda, operated by the same company as
the Stella, the London and South Western Railway, was wrecked of St. Malo,
France. It had been a treacherous voyage for the vessel, plagued first by fog,
and then by a blizzard, which whipped the seas around the French coast into a
fury. The Hilda was driven onto rocks, and quickly broke in two. Immediately
after the accident, passengers congregated on deck. Among them was the wife
of Douglas Eckford. Mrs Eckford had been born Helen Vivienne Beauclere
Simons, in Castle Donington, Leicestershire, in 1881, the daughter of George
and Helen Elizabeth Simons. She had married Douglas Eckford in 1900, and
after had lived in Jersey, and Parame, St. Servan, France. Waves began to pour
over the vessel as the Hilda began to break up, and gradually the passengers and
crew were swept into the sea. Of the 127 people on board the Hilda, just six
survived. Mrs Eckford’s body was later recovered from the sea, and laid to rest
in St. Servan.
The Hilda and Stella were relatively small losses when compared to the 1500 or
more lost on the Titanic in 1912. Yet within three years of the Titanic sinking,
two more vessels were to be lost with similar appalling losses of life.
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On May 28th 1914 the
Empress of Ireland of the
Canadian Pacific Railway
departed from Quebec,
bound for Liverpool. On
board were over 1000
passengers, among them
over 170 members of the
Salvation Army bound for
their International Congress
in London. In charge of the
vessel was Captain Henry
Kendall, who in 1910 had
played an instrumental role
in the arrest of Dr Crippen,
when he recognised the
murderer and his mistress
attempting to evade arrest
by sailing for Canada on board the Montrose.
Among the first class passengers on board the Empress was Joseph Francis
Cox-Edwards. Though living in Harpenden, in Hertfordshire, Joseph had been
born in Hinckley, while his father, John, had been serving as curate at St.
Mary’s Church. Mr Cox-Edwards had been on a visit to his former home in
Yokohama, Japan and was returning to Britain via Canada.
Joseph was not the only passenger on the Empress to claim ties to
Leicestershire. Travelling in third class were Mrs Mary Jane Buck and her
brother Daniel Staley, Mrs Edith Flack, Mrs Ethel Lee and Mr Charles Kilsby.
Mrs Buck and her brother were natives of Ashby-de-la-Zouch, the children of
John
and
Elizabeth
Staley. It was news that
John and Elizabeth were
in declining health that
precipitated Mary and
Daniel’s voyage on the
Empress.
It was happier news that
caused Edith Flack to
take passage on the
The Empress
Empress. Born Edith
Frances
Harrald
in
Market Harborough, Edith had emigrated in 1911. In Canada she had met and
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fallen in love with Percy Flynn Flack, and the couple married in 1912. The
voyage on the Empress was Edith’s first trip home, and she was anxious for her
family to meet her new husband. Ethel Lee had also recently married. Ethel had
left Sileby for Canada in 1913 to marry Ernest Lee. Originally she and her
husband had planned to visit her parents, Mr and Mrs John Durham, but Ernest
had had to remain in Canada. Ethel’s father was the owner of the Highfield
Nurseries in Sileby.
Charles Kilsby was returning to Market Harborough after an extended visit to
his daughter in Canada. Sixty-six year old Mr Kilsby was a machinist and
mechanic, and lived at Little Bowden.
The Empress of Ireland was just hours into her voyage when disaster occurred.
At just after 2.00am the crew sighted a vessel ahead in the St. Lawrence River.
At that moment fog closed in and the Empress’ officers lost sight of the ship.
Their next view was as the unknown steamer emerged from the fog heading
towards the starboard side of the Empress. The two ships collided, and then
parted, the strange vessel disappearing once more into the mist. Meanwhile, the
Empress began to sink. Fourteen minutes later 840 passengers had lost their
lives, among them all the passengers from Leicestershire. Among the bodies
recovered afterwards was that of Joseph Cox-Edwards. He was buried
alongside his mother at Ecton, Northamptonshire, on June 13th.
Just a few months after the loss of the Empress the First World War began.
Among the worst losses of the war was the torpedoing of the Lusitania on May
7th 1915. The Lusitania had departed New York on May 1st with nearly 1300
passengers. On a glorious sunny afternoon, while many passengers were dining,
the ship was torpedoed off the Old Head of Kinsale, Ireland. Like the Empress
of Ireland, the Lusitania sank quickly, and nearly 1200 passengers and crew
died.
People from Leicestershire were well represented among the passengers on the
Lusitania, with some thirteen people returning to the county. Among them was
the Bailey family of Shepshed. Ivy Bailey was 14 years old, and returning to
England with her parents, George and Jessie. The family had been living in
British Columbia, but after three years had decided to return to Shepshed.
Before her marriage in 1901, Jessie Bailey had been Miss Jessie Hanford. Mrs
Charles Booth had been born Emily Sarah Hadfield, and before emigrating to
America had taught at Groby and Snibston. Her mother lived in Hugglescote,
and it was her poor health that had caused Emily to leave Canada with her
baby, Nigel Frederick, and return to Leicestershire. Edward Tarry was a
representative for Messrs. N. Corah & Sons, and had been on a business trip to
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Toronto. He lived at Tyndale Street, Leicester, and was using the Lusitania to
return home.
Osmund Bartle Wordsworth was typical of many Lusitania passengers in that
he was returning to England to enlist in the army. He and his sister, Ruth, had
been born in Glaston, Rutland, and were related to the poet, William
Wordsworth. Osmund had been lecturing at Trinity College, Toronto, and Ruth
had been working as a missionary in Japan.
Leicester folk fared better on the Lusitania. Edward Tarry, Osmund
Wordsworth and his sister, Fred Snowden, and Steward Harold Rowbotham
were all rescued from the wreck. Perhaps the most remarkable story of survival
was that of Nigel Booth, who was plucked to safety, while his mother went
down with the ship.
Landlocked as Leicestershire is, this has not prevented her people from
travelling across the globe. It is inevitable that from time to time disaster might
befall one or more of them. However, when this happens, they are often not the
subject of newspaper articles, and so we fail to connect them to the county. It is
the hope that this article has remembered them, and the tragedies that they were
part of.
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Strays
We have many hundreds of names of people who have 'strayed' from their
native parishes. Data includes Marriages, Settlements, Certificates etc.
Mike Hutchinson has now taken over the compilation of these names, and is
willing to search the data for you.
Please write, sending 3 x 2nd class stamps (or equivalent) per surname + a
s.a.e to: M J Hutchinson,
197 Cole Lane,
Borrowash, Derbyshire,
DE72 3GN
More rapid responses, can be obtained by email at: MjhutcH44@aol.com
Strays data will be accepted by email, or by Microsoft Word document.
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Thomas Goddard - The Merchant Taylor
By Julie Goddard'
Local Boy makes Good
One of the plus sides of being the Research Co-ordinator of the Goddard
Association is that I get to research family trees just for the fun of it, not only
my husbands family but anyone surnamed Goddard. One of my favourites is
Thomas Goddard, Citizen of London and a Merchant Taylor.
From the information given in his will and using the parish registers, it is
possible to establish that Thomas was born in Mountsorrel and baptised in the
parish church on 26th April 1604, as “the son of William Goddard “. He had a
cousin John, son of his uncle Nicholas, who was baptised in the same year in
the same church. Thomas had a brother William and two sisters, Mary and
Joice. I imagine that they were on the same social level as the Herrick and the
Nichols families, in fact Joice married Thomas Nichols of Barrow-on-Soar. It is
also possible that they were related to the armigerous Goddard family of Beeby
(who are related to some of the Berkshire Goddards) but the connection has not
yet been proved.
Thomas's trade was perhaps glove making, a Mountsorrel trade. Gloves were
highly prized as a fashion accessory. However his will shows that he was also
involved in the woollen cloth industry.
The early 1600s were a time of change, danger and conflict, especially in
London, where the king reigned and parliament increasingly tried to oppose his
wishes. Thomas probably moved to London in his late teens to learn his trade.
Was he the “Thomas Goddard, serv[ant] of Thomas Lyon” who was entered
into the Merchant Taylors' register on 5th July 1620? He married his first
(unnamed) wife soon after as he had a son, Thomas, who was baptised in St
Giles, Cripplegate on 13th October 1622, but presumably died before his father
as he is not mentioned in Thomas's will. He also had two daughters, Ann
baptised 1628 and Prescilla, baptised 1629. This wife must have died around
1630 as he married Jane Sampson in 1632 at St Helens, Bishopsgate. They had
no children.
During these years and for the next ten, the differences between King Charles
and Parliament grew until in 1642 Civil War was declared. The City of London
Guilds were very rich and very powerful and were involved in both sides in the
conflict, both for and against the king. It is not supposed that Thomas Goddard
sat on the sidelines, but which side did he support? King or Parliament? As his
will asks for the services of Dr Samuel Annesley to preach the sermon at his
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funeral I think we can be sure that he was for Parliament as the good doctor was
a friend of the Cromwells.
Thomas survived the Civil War, the following Republic and the Restoration of
the Monarchy in 1660 without losing his head, his money or his trade. Either he
had friends in high places or he was a skilled reader of men. He made his will
on March 30th 1660 at the moment when the City of London Guilds had
decided that they would support the return of the monarchy and had sent a
messenger to the Netherlands to invite Charles II to return. One suspects that
Thomas was a little uneasy at his position under the new regime. Whatever his
misgivings he survived to see Charles' triumphant entry into London in April
1660, before dying sometime in May. There was an epidemic of smallpox at
this time, but I think that aged 56, a respectable age for the time, and “being
sick in body” he died of old age and disillusionment.
In his will he asked to be buried in the parish church of St Giles, Cripplegate.
The parish is given £70 and the warden of the parish £10 and four shillings
annually to the minister of the parish. He left no male heir so his estate is to be
divided out as follows; his wife Jane is given £70 a year for life to be paid out
of the money which will be received from some property in St Giles, or she
may make some other arrangements with her sons in law if she wishes. There is
money for his daughter's husbands, Robert Savage, the husband of Ann; and
Christopher Nottingham, the husband of Prescilla, and their children. There is
some suspicion of the probity of Christopher and he will forfeit some of the
money if he proves laggardly in paying his debts.
Thomas owned a considerable amount of property in St Giles and with profits
from these he wanted every year twenty yards of strong kersey in serviceable
dark brown or olive colour to be bought. The material was to be made into
coats for ten fatherless children of the parish of St Giles, to be given to then at
the beginning of November each year - and he requests that lame Mary Cooke
and Margery Bembridge are among the children selected. He also leaves money
for bread for the poor. But it is the next request that will interest Leicestershire
readers; he gives and bequeaths “unto the parish of Mountsorrel wherein I was
born the sum of ten pounds in trust to be by them put forth and disposed of for
the yearly benefit of the poor of the said parish...” £10 is to be spent on bread
for twenty four poor people of the parish. I have tried to discover whether this
ceremony is still performed, but no one is prepared to say. And I also gather
that during restoration of Mountsorrel parish church the charities and benefits
notice has been lost from the church.
Some minor requests are interesting; Cousin Hugh was to be given £30 to
purchase a frame on which to make silk stockings and Captain Salter was to
advise him on the choice of the frame. The art of making silk stockings had
been known for a hundred years, but they were still an expensive item of dress.
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The importance of the executors of the will passed me by at first. They were Mr
Thomas Grimshaw, Mr Thomas Sturges, Mr John Fine, and the surprise, Mr
Richard Edlyn. The Dictionary of National Biography says of Mr Edlyn that
“He practised his noble science in new buildings in Sugar Loaf Court... from
the style of his writing he must have been a more than ordinarily literate
knave.” In other words, he was an astrologer and fortune-teller; in those
uncertain days such men flourished, but I would not have expected such as
Thomas Goddard to be friends with one!
Finally perhaps we can judge Thomas Goddard to have been a kindly and
generous man, for besides the coats for the orphans, he left an old suit of
clothes for “Nurse Dickinson”, and others for his wife's kinsman in St
Barthomew's Hospital. Clothes in those days were made to last and were often
handed on or down, but it was a kind gesture all the same. Besides being an
able man, I think Thomas must have been a very thoughtful and generous one.
If any of the readers of this article knows anything more about this Goddard
family I would be very grateful to hear of it.
Patrick Goddard of Plymouth has compiled a very large family tree of
Leicestershire Goddards from the 15th century to the present day and has made
a tentative suggestion as to Thomas Goddard's ancestors. He also has
information on families, which married into the Goddards; Beeson,
Hemingway, Marrriot and Sharpe - and also my Siddons family as far back as
1663 in Ibstock. Any e-mail enquiry, or letter with a stamped envelope for a
reply, and addressed to me will be answered.
Julie Goddard 11 Chandos Road, Newbury, Berks.,RG14 7EP
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Trip to FRC scheduled for April 13th.
We offer our most sincere apologies to everyone for the bus not arriving to
take us to the FRC on that day.
We realise the frustration you all felt, particularly getting up and out so early
to no avail. Sorry!
Members can either have a refund or transfer the money to a future trip.
The next coach is going on Saturday June 12th, and should you wish to go,
please contact Hilda Cobb who will take your booking as usual.
Jean Perry
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LRFHS - Forthcoming Events
Schedule of LRFHS
Bus Trips 2004
Please note the important changes in the times of some of the trips this year,
arranged at members’request.
Pick-up point at Holiday Inn is at the London / Airports bus stop on Narborough Road – by
the petrol station.
Family Records Centre. Saturday June 12th (FRC)
This bus leaves Loughborough Granby St, near Library, at 6.20 a.m., then picks
up in Leicester at Holiday Inn, Narborough Rd, at approx 6.45 a.m.
It will leave the FRC at 5.30 p.m.
National Archives at Kew. Wed June 16th (formerly the PRO)
Leaves Humberstone Gate 6.30 a.m. and Holiday Inn, Narborough Rd, 6.45 am
Family Records Centre. Tuesday August 3rd (FRC)
Leaves Humberstone Gate at 7.45 am and Holiday Inn at 8 am. FRC at 7pm
National Archives, Kew. Thursday September 23rd (formerly the PRO)
Leaves Humberstone Gate at 7.45 am, Holiday Inn 8 am. Leaves Kew at 7 pm.
Family Records Centre Wednesday October 27th (FRC)
Usual times: Leaves Humberstone Gate at 6.30 am and Holiday Inn at 6.45 am
Family Records Centre. Thursday November 26th (F RC)
Usual times: Leaves Humberstone Gate at 6.30 am and Holiday Inn at 6.45 am
Please book as usual, using the form on centre page xvi.
Make sure that you send the form to the correct person when booking
for either KEW or FRC
Hosted by Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society as
Part of The Federation of Family History Societies Conference
Sunday 29th of August 2004
AT LOUGHBOROUGH UNIVERSITY
10.00am – 4.30pm Entrance Fee £2
Enter from Epinal Way and follow the signs
-
Free Parking
Two Halls with over 90 Tables
All the Major Exhibitors attending
Family History Bookstall, Help Desk, Short Talks for Beginners and
Tracing The History of Your House and much much more!
Something for everyone – beginners and experts… … … … ..
Food and Drink available
For more details & list : www.lrfhs.net/fair2004 or www.ffhs.org.uk
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Yorkshire Family History Fair
Saturday 26th June 2004
York Racecourse (Knavesmire Exhibition Centre)
10.00 am to 4.30 pm
All the usual stalls associated with such a major event – 224 tables in 2003
Free car parking – Admission £3.00 – Cafeteria facilities
Further details from Mr A Sampson, 1 Oxgang Close, redcar Cleveland
TS10 4ND – 01642 486615
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CLWYD & GWYNEDD
The 5th Annual North Wales Family History Fair
Saturday 4th September 2004.
at The Conference Centre, The Promenade
Llandudno
Family History Societies, Archives, Books, Maps, Publications, Computer Software,
Postcards, Lectures, Free advice, and more… … … … .
www.northwalesfamilyhistoryfair.co.uk
Hilda Robson [Mrs] Committee Member N.W.F.H. Fair.
membsec@clwydfhs.org.uk
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The Great North Fair
Saturday 11th September 2004
10.00 – 4.30 at Gateshead International Stadium, Nelson Road, Gateshead
NE10 0EF
Major Exhibitors from England, Wales, Scotland Ireland and from Overseas
Free parking, Free Advice –
www.GreatNorthFair.com
A2A Update, March 2004
www.a2a.org.uk.
The March A2A (Access To Archives) database update has now taken place.
1348 new catalogues have been added to the database, which now contains
more than 6.6 million catalogue entries describing archives held in 348 record
offices, libraries and other repositories throughout England.
Among the catalogues added recently are finding aids describing the following:
?? 53,000 insurance policies held with the Sun Fire Office in the period 181624 - including one taken out by the Duke of Wellington, seven relating to
taverns bearing his name and one relating to a painting of the Duke and his
officers by Thomas Heaphy - held at Guildhall Library and catalogued for
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??
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A2A by the London Archive Users Forum through a project called A Place
in the Sun;
annual returns and correspondence relating to freemasons' lodges across
England from 1745 onwards, held at the Library and Museum of
Freemasonry and catalogued for A2A through the Ancients and Moderns
project;
a wide variety of archives relating to the Yorkshire seaside town of Filey,
held at the Crimlisk Fisher Archive and catalogued for A2A through
Access to the Crimlisk Fisher Archive;
miscellaneous unofficial collections and records of local government
bodies held by Berkshire Record Office, Canterbury Cathedral Archives,
the Isle of Wight Record Office, Southampton Archives Services and West
Sussex Record Office, contributed through two projects in the South East
Region, Aladdin's Cave and Local Governance and the Community;
family and estate archives held at Lincolnshire Record Office (some dating
back to the late 12th century), contributed through the East Midlands
project Families, Estates and Communities;
business archives held at Suffolk Record Office and at the Long Shop
Steam Museum in Leiston, catalogued for A2A by Suffolk Record Office
through the Made in Suffolk project;
business and family and estate archives held at the local authority archives
services of Bury, Cheshire and Chester, Cumbria, Lancashire, Oldham, St
Helens, Tameside, and the Wirral, by the Museum of Science and Industry
in Manchester and by the Maritime Archives and Library of National
Museums and Galleries on Merseyside, contributed through the Mills,
Mansions and Corner Shops project in the North West Region;
the Manchester Ship Canal Company's photographic archive, held at
Greater Manchester County Record Office and contributed through More
than Meets the Eye;
the archive of the Tolkien Society - the catalogue includes links to selected
images of items in the archive and one of the images is currently featured
on the A2A homepage - catalogued for A2A by the South East Region
project Private Faces in Public Places;
archives relating to coal mining held by the archives services of Barnsley
and Sheffield, contributed by the Shafts of Light project in South
Yorkshire;
business archives - including the archives of John Lobb, bootmaker to the
Prince of Wales, Jaeger and Liberty (held at the City of Westminster
Archives Centre), of the Hackney Empire (held by Hackney Archives
Department) and of Wheelers Wycombe Brewery (held by the Centre for
Buckinghamshire Studies) - contributed by The Works in London and the
South East;
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?? and public records held locally, including hospital archives at Surrey
History Centre and Tyne and Wear Archives Service, and the records of
the Royal Sussex Regiment at West Sussex Record Office.
A2A usage since launch now stands at 3.2 million searches, with 6.9 million
catalogue downloads as a result. In the three months to February 2004, general
A2A database usage increased by 77%.
In Memoriam
Pat White
of Loughborough, Leicestershire
31st December 2003
I ran an inquiry in 1995 searching for an ancestor in the Leicestershire area. Pat
answered and, although she was not able to help me then, thus began an
exchange of correspondence over the following years in a continuous search for
my HUBBLE ancestors. Every few weeks a letter, or postcard, would arrive
from her with new information, including certified entries of family events. She
drew family trees, and contacted possible descendants. She transcribed all of
the HUBBLE names, wherever found and sent pages of lists and compiled
indexes. All this was done by hand, without the aid of a computer, and long
before any of the names were ever put on the Internet.
Pat would not accept payment for the many hours she put in on my behalf, and
even went so far as to chastise me for sending International Reply Coupons.
“They are so expensive… ” she said, and continued to send more information.
Although she was unable to travel distances, she collected data from numerous
sources, and took enormous pleasure in being able to find a lost relative, or
solve a mystery. She was, in fact, the consummate family researcher, and she
did it for the love of helping others.
I shall miss you Pat. You were generous with your time, and most patient with
my often unreasonable and naïve requests. The world was blessed by your
presence. I know I was.
Douglas W. Poulter, Palm City, Florida.
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Leicestershire & Rutland
FHS Research Centre and Library
by Barbara Harrison
Recent new acquisitions include: CDs
Leicestershire 1861 Census
Essex 1861 Census
Suffolk 1861 Census
Shropshire Quarter Sessions
Seamen's \ crewlists 1851, Lanarkshire
Books
The Bousfield Family
Leicestershire Industrial Directory 1993-4
Redmile Oddfellows 1838-1920
The Making of Uppingham
W. Cumberland Registered Shipping 1764-1862
MIs of St James, Whitehaven
History's Midwives, by J.E.Grundy
Great Bowden Cemetery 1880-1997
Prince Wistan's Legacy, by J.T.Garner
Surnames, Occupations & Early Working Practices in Bradgate Area 12961890 by D. Ramsey.
Long Whatton Censuses for 1881,1891,1901
A History of Arnesby
Old Knighton
River Sence by G. Broughton
People in Wigston Magna, by G. Broughton
Fiche
Wesleyan Methodist Historic Roll - Leicester.
We are indebted to the late N.J.Arnold, Mrs Watts, & Mr Easin for several of
the above donated books.
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Much Binding in the Marsh
By Valerie Joyce (nee Snowden)
In February 2003, my husband and I went for a short break to Wells next the
Sea in Norfolk. On the last day of our holiday we were walking on Cley
Marshes when we saw a couple approaching us. They pointed out to us a heron
and that led to further conversation. We discovered they came from Hull and
their son had been at university in Leicester. We chatted further about someone
we knew in Hull only to find that they had met him too.
My family historian's mind moved on to the fact that I had discovered a great
uncle who had had a chemists shop in Anlaby Road, Hull. I mentioned this fact
and was about to ask her if she happened to know anyone with the surname
Snowden, when I saw a look of amazement on her face. She said that person
was her grandfather.
Could there have been another chemist by the name of Snowden on Anlaby
Road? Her own father, now in his 80's, was still alive but we were unable to
contact him. This lady whom I had met was in fact my second cousin - both of
us having the same maiden name of Snowden. She was a Christine, that is my
middle name, and we both had the same profession! Needless to say we
couldn't stop talking and it took me a long time to get off to sleep that night.
We exchanged phone numbers and
addresses. I sent information about the
family to her, which proved we were in fact
second cousins. We have since met up with
them in Hull and had the pleasure of
meeting her parents who had just celebrated
their diamond wedding anniversary. Here is
a photograph taken to record the occasion.
We were able to fit in a few more branches
of our family tree. It was a strange feeling to
meet another Mr or in this case Dr Snowden
and realise that his father and my father's
father were brothers and I could recognise a
Meeting in Hull
family likeness from the photographs I
have.
A truly amazing experience – and a one in a billion chance!
Valerie Joyce, 22 Cromwell Road, Mountsorrel, Loughborough, Leicester
LE12 7EY
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THE RECORD OFFICE
FOR LEICESTERSHIRE
LEICESTER & RUTLAND
Long Street, Wigston Magna, Leicester
LEI8 2AH
Telephone 0116 2571080
Fax: 0116 2571120
Disappointment
Disappointment is something with which every family historian has to learn to
live. As a professional researcher I also have to live with other people's
disappointments. I share their elation when I find what they are looking for and
their disappointment when I don't.
What some people, new to family history, fail to realise is that they are dealing
with real people who sometimes acted on a whim, who did the unexpected and
spared no thought for their descendants' genealogical efforts.
This week I did a piece of research that appeared to be very straightforward.
Nice and simple, I thought, finding the baptism of a man who claimed to have
been born in a north Leicestershire village in 1811. The information had come
from a census. I was to find the names of his parents and, hopefully, take it
back a couple of generations. It was to prove a huge disappointment.
I searched the baptisms and found a couple of families with the right surname,
clearly related since it was an uncommon name, but no William. I searched
twice to be sure that I hadn't missed a faded entry and still no William. I went
forwards in case his was part of a multiple family baptism or that he was
baptised as a young adult before leaving the village; no trace. I tried the only
available non-conformist register, again nothing. It was time to look for other
solutions.
There are quite a few strategies that can be used in this situation, all of which I
have used successfully at various times in the past. As there were people of this
name in the village in the middle of the eighteenth century, there was a strong
chance that I could take the family back if I could establish the name of
William's father. He had a trade so I looked for an apprenticeship indenture and
found none. I looked for a settlement or removal document and found nothing.
I looked for his marriage, hoping that he would have married later, after July
1837, but he did not marry in Leicestershire. Because it was an uncommon
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name there was every chance of finding a will made by his father. No-one of
that surname made a will within a realistic time frame, ruling out other relatives
as well. The most likely strategies had been exhausted and the only thing that
was certain was that William had not been baptised.
However all is not lost and there are things that can be done that might still
produce the name of William's father. William died in 1879 and from my
client's letter it seemed clear that the censuses for 1841, 1851 and 1871 had not
been searched. People often give different information from census to census so
it is worth looking at every available census. Nor had William's marriage been
found and this document has now achieved high importance statement. My
advice will be to look for those census entries and to find that marriage entry.
In this particular case, there is still a chance of success, of finding William's
father's name but it is not guaranteed. William was not baptised in the place and
at the time when he claimed to have been born.
If your ancestor was not baptised and all other strategies fail to locate his
parents, then as big a disappointment as it is, you will have to accept that it is
not possible to take that family back any further. Sometimes it is necessary to
accept that you have come to the end of the line but the good thing about family
history is that there is always another line to follow.
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Pity the Poor Husband? – by Mike Hutchenson
The Poor Relief (Deserted Wives and Children) Act of 1718 made the
following provision "Churchwardens etc. may by warrant from two justices,
seize the goods etc. of husbands who leave their wives and children upon the
parish. Such warrant to be confirmed at Quarter Sessions, who may make an
order for sale etc."
The Vagrancy Act of 1825 stated on Desertion - "Every person running away
and leaving his wife, or his or her child or children, chargeable, or whereby
chargeability results, is liable to be dealt with for first offence as rogue and
vagabond, and for further offences as incorrigible rogue."
Punishment for these offences was:Rogue and Vagabond - Imprisonment for not more than three months, or fine
not exceeding £25.
Incorrigible Rogue - Imprisonment with hard labour until the Quarter
Sessions, and then may be sentenced to further imprisonment with hard labour
for a term not exceeding one year, and be ordered, if male, to be whipped.
So if you find a family living on relief with the husband missing, you might like
to look in the local gaol or check the Quarter Session records… … … … .
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“Adopt A Book”
The Archive CD Books Project has come up with a great new scheme to enable
libraries, record offices and museums to conserve and restore family history
books in their collection.
The new scheme invites people to Adopt-A-Book; this entails donating a sum
of money to pay for the restoration of a book. Books available for adoption can
be viewed on the Archive CD Books website,
www.archivecdbooks.org/adopt
There are several available already and many more will be appearing very soon
for areas all over Britain, so keep checking the site to see if there’s a book you
fancy adopting.
Who benefits and how?
Libraries, Museums and Record Offices – they get a CD AND facsimile
book copy of the adopted book, so the original, fully restored to it’s former
glory, can be kept under proper archive conditions. Visitors can access the data
on the CD or facsimile copy. To ensure the books aren’t away from the library
for too long, we only start work on a book once it has been adopted.
Adopters – They get huge enjoyment from knowing they’ve contributed to the
preservation of vital books for future generations to use. They also receive a
free CD and limited edition facsimile copy of the book they adopted. On top of
this they get a 20% discount on all Archive CD Books products for ever more!
Family historians – All family historians will benefit from this scheme since
all the adopted books will be made available on CDs which can be bought from
the Archive CD Books website.
Plenty of local studies libraries have already offered books that are in desperate
need of rebinding or other restoration work. We’d like more of them to know
about it so if you know of a family history book in your local library, museum
or record office that needs some care and attention, tell them about this project!
Also, some of the books are looking for suitable homes, if you are a librarian or
archivist please visit the site and see if you could offer some of these books a
good home.
One example is the 1832 Nottinghamshire White’s Directory
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This was purchased from a book dealer. The book wasn't totally in separate
pages, just chunks of pages each of which
were hanging together with a few
threads. The original leather spine was
totally missing, but the original calf
leather boards were there. So we decided
that it should have the full restoration
treatment.
First, the pages were rebound and re-stitched. There's a big difference between
the modern method of glueing the pages in a "perfect binding" and doing the
job properly using traditional methods of stitching using fine cotton. The calf
leather was very carefully peeled off the original boards. This leather is
incredibly thin and fine, so the book binder needed to be very careful.
A new spine was made, with calf leather dyed to match the colour of the
original, and with real gold leaf lettering and lining. The lining is pressed into
the leather as a "groove" with a tool, and then filled with gold.
Next, new boards were made, with new calf leather at the corners (where the
original leather was missing), and then the old leather bonded back on to the
surface. The new spine leather sits under the old leather of the boards, and to do
that it needs to be planed down very thin indeed at its edges. At this stage, as in
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New Edition – National Burial Index
Over 13 Million Entries on Second Edition National Burial
Index for England and Wales
Family historians around the world have been eagerly awaiting publication of
the Second Edition of the National Burial Index, which lists millions of burial
entries from Anglican parish, Nonconformist and cemetery registers throughout
England and Wales.
The First Edition of the NBI, published by the Federation of Family History
Societies in 2001, was a runaway bestseller - but the Second Edition is expected
to be even more popular. The number of entries on the CD-ROM database has
more than doubled from just over 5 million to over 13 million, with more
counties and parishes represented and many more family history societies
contributing data.
The NBI, which is an index to millions of burials from 1538 to almost the
present day, will be a vital aid to their research. The records begin in 1538
because that was the year Thomas Cromwell, chief minister to Henry VIII,
ordered that all parishes in England and Wales should keep records of baptisms,
marriages and burials.
Among entries in the database are the burials of the tragic Brontës - the most
celebrated literary family in history - at Haworth, West Yorkshire. These
include Emily Brontë, author of Wuthering Heights; Charlotte Nicholls née
Brontë, author of Jane Eyre; their dissolute brother, Patrick Branwell Brontë;
mother Maria; two elder sisters who died young; and the father, the Rev.
Patrick Brontë, who outlived them all to die in 1861. Other famous people on
the NBI include King Charles I, executed in 1649, who is recorded as "King
Charles Stuart" at New Windsor, Berkshire; Jethro Tull, the celebrated
agriculturalist, also buried in Berkshire; and the mother and siblings of the great
explorer, Captain James Cook, who lie at Great Ayton, North Yorkshire.
To be published on five CDs in an attractive presentation package, the National
Burial Index is to be launched at the 30th Anniversary Conference of the
Federation of Family History Societies at Loughborough University,
Leicestershire, from August 26 to 30 2004. It will then go on sale from
September 1 to family history societies and genealogists throughout the world.
The full price for first-time purchasers will be £45 and there will be an upgrade
price for purchasers of the First Edition of £25, with discounts for advance
orders, family history societies and commercial sellers (further details of these
discounts will be given at a later date).
• Sales enquiries to: FFHS (Publications) Ltd, Units 15 & 16, Chesham
Industrial Centre, Oram Street, Bury BL9 6EN. Tel: 0161 797 3843
Fax: 0161 797 3846.
E-mail: nbi@ffhs.co.uk
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Query Box
Editor – Please keep entries for the Query box
to a minimum of information as the requests are
many, and this gives scope to print more of your ancestral problems. Always quote
your membership number on all correspondence. –
FREE SERVICE ONLY TO MEMBERS.
********************
This photo is of my paternal
grandfather, back left row, William
Edwin SHARP (1868-1925) his wife
Mary Clarissa SHEPHERD (18681914) in front of him, and her mother
Celia Sophia HEGGS (1841-1914) to
her left. Their sons are William on the
left, Frank on the right and my father
George front left.
I wonder if anyone recognises the
other family - husband and wife back
row right, grandmother with baby and
son front row right? The photo is
c1902. William Edwin was the
publican at the Black Boy, Albion
Street, Leicester. I would love
someone to be able to name them.
Edna Phillips no. P148
farshepherdhousefarm@btopenworld.com
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Has anyone noticed in the 1881 census index
OTWAYCAVE BENNETT,
born Blaby
Aged 47 years
and any thoughts as to derivation of this wonderful name?
I first happened to notice it in passing ad found it fascinating.
Anna Macdonald, 9 Cornwell Village, Chipping Norton, Oxford
OX7 6TT
Editor – I have looked at the 1891 census index and have been unable to find
this person – any ideas?
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This photograph of a
church has been in my
family for many years.
Originally it was framed
and has some relevance.
I have been to many
churches in my research
of
my
Leicestershire
ancestors, but have not
found this one.
I have not visited Melton
Mowbray, where several
family marriages took
place and wonder if this
could be that parish church.
Any information would be of great help,.
Jan Smith, 17 Old Hall Drive, Dersingham, Norfolk PE31 6JT
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I am seeking information on my mother's cousin JOHN HARDY ROBSON,
born 1 Garendon Street, Leicester – January 1931, son of John Hardy Robson
and Emma Weddell DOUGLAS married 1928 in Newcastle upon Tyne. Emma
died of TB in June 1931 at Gilroes sanatorium (Home address 'Ingleside'
Marston Road, Leicester) and her husband John died in 1938. By then he had
married Constance JAKES and was living at 14 Wicklow Drive, Leicester.
I would be pleased to receive any information on the people or places
mentioned.
Mrs A McNiven, The Bushes, Mill Lane, Barham, Canterbury, Kent CT4
6QE (non member)
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Can any of the L.R.F.H.S. members solve a family mystery?
I am researching the PEET family history, and have already received valuable,
and very much appreciated, assistance from several people regarding the James
Store, previously owned by some members of the Peet family, which once
occupied premises on Carrington Street, Nottingham.
Very recently, enquiries within my husband's family unearthed the memory of
my husband's mother, Dorothy Sharpe (nee Peet) speaking of a portrait of her
mother ROSE PEET (nee ANTHONY), which once hung in the Castle
(presumably Nottingham Castle). Two of Dorothy's daughters recall her
speaking of this portrait, but as Dorothy died several years ago, they can recall
the memory of her speaking of the portrait, but no other details.
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Rose was one of 13 children of George Anthony (Cab driver) and his wife
Tamar, of Nottingham. Of these children, 7 predeceased their parents and the
survivors were Ernest, Eliza, Hannah, Rose, Mary and George (as far as we
can currently determine) not necessarily in that order. Rose married Walter Peet
on the 16th April 1906. She was 23 and a domestic servant and he was 27 and a
groom. Rose died at the age of 46 and was buried on the 25th June 1929. The
family has no photographs of Rose; only her name in official documents
remains to remind them of her.
It is not known whether the portrait was a painting or a photograph, but any
assistance in tracing its whereabouts (if it has survived) would solve the
tantalising mystery of the portrait or Rose. If anyone can assist, please contact
me at the address given.
Sheila Sharpe, 17 Thomas Road, Kegworth, Derbyshire DE74 2DY
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Flying Boats – WW1
Is anyone able to let me know, or suggest of whom I should enquire, whether
flying boats were built on the Isle of Wight during WW1, and if so, whether
civilian joiners/cabinet makers would have been employed on the construction
or maintenance, or as pattern makers? Replies acknowledged and postage
refunded
Sylvia M Browne,
16 Victoria Road, Larne, Co. Antrim, N. Ireland BT40 1RN
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Will LRFHS member Mrs Gillian Banks, formerly of Cowbridge, please get in
touch with fellow member, John Shipman, 3 Old Mill Close, Langford,
Bigglsewade, Beds, SG18 9QY concerning information about the HOE family.
Thanks
John Shipman S 0570
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This picture of a wedding is
one that I would really
appreciate some help in
identifying.
The only person that I know is
the man standing next to the
bride and he is my uncle: –
ALFRED ERNEST
HALLAM
(known as Ernie)
Any help would be most appreciated
Dianne Meakin, 1 Forest Road, Loughborough, Leicester LE11 3NW
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Have been trying to trace the source of grandfathers epitaph on his grave-stone.
Can anyone help?
"O for the touch of the vanished hand
and the sound of the voice that is still"
Feel it must be extract from larger poem.
Which? By whom?
David Whitmore, 28 Avebury Avenue, Leicester LE4 0FN
dcw.1uk@virgin.net
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QUIGG
Looking for descendants of James Alexander Quigg b-1883 Durham m Jane
Lamb 1907 - had 2 boys Alexander & William (William was my father) - b
1910.
James left England for South Africa and in 1921 lived at 163 Transvaal Road
Beaconsfield -and he worked for a W Slaughter in the Market Place. This
information I have from the voters list of 1921.
I have tried using a researcher but now my trail has gone cold.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Mrs J.A. Wills Judwills@btopenworld.com
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I am seeking a marriage for ELLEN POWELL and ARTHUR MARTIN or any
information on them or their six children, who in 1901 were all living at 31
Shenton Street, Leicester. I am assuming this is Ellen's second marriage as her
children all have the surname Powell. Any info. gratefully received.
Trude Martin, 40 Pensham, Pershore, Worcs WR10 3HA
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I'm after any information on Thomas HURST who married Elizabeth
JENKINSON of Fleckney in Fleckney on November 11 1733.I've traced the
line to there but there is no record prior to that date. Many thanks for any help.
Terry Ratcliffe tezbar@bigpond.com
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Does anyone have any information on the early days of the Leicester Royal
Infirmary Nurses League? Miss E E Hart, my relative, was a nurse in Leicester,
and served in the Territorial Army Nursing Service at the Northern General
Hospital during WW1, and was awarded the Royal Red Cross in 1916. After
the war, she nursed at the Royal Infirmary, and in 1924, my mother came to
Leicester to train as a nurse, and subsequently met my father.
Mary Abbott
mary@abbott303.fsnet.co.uk
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Computer Bits
by Mike Ratcliff
mratcliff@ntlworld.com
Sources and Citations
If you’re anything like me, starting to research my family’s history was a mad
dash around family documents, the 1881 census and chats with relatives.
Within a fairly short time I had a good idea of the various branches that
contributed to my genes together with a lot of scribbled and mental notes of
names and dates. It was at this point I discovered there were programs that
stored all this information, drew family trees and produced reports I could share
with relatives. I loaded the program, selected the Initial Individual – me – and
started to type. Within a short time I realised some of the ‘facts’I was entering
must be wrong; surely my great-grandmother was more than eight years old
when her first child was born?
It was then that I realised I had committed one of the cardinal sins of a
genealogist – I had failed to record my sources. Actually, at the time I just
thought I’d been a bit dim and misremembered a few facts, but after further
research I found out about sources and citations. These are used to record where
the information was found and mean that you, or anyone else, can go back and
check the veracity of the data. So what is a source? Rather than try to invent a
dictionary definition let’s quote some sources: the 1881 census, great-grandpa’s
diary, a birth certificate and even that conversation you recorded with greataunt Joan.
A good family history program will let you record all your sources with extra
details such as their locations, authors and other notes. A citation is when you
refer to information within a source as justification for a fact you have stored in
your records. Your software should allow you to pinpoint within a source
where the relevant information is to be found. I use Family Historian and for
each citation there are fields for where in the source – for example, the folio
and page number in a census – and quotations and comments. A final selection
is an assessment of the data’s reliability; from unreliable (that chat with greataunt Joan) to primary evidence (a birth certificate).
Some sources, such as censuses, will be cited many times for names, dates and
addresses, whereas others may be cited only once or twice. Many family
historians like to keep a complete electronic record of their researches and store
scanned images of certificates and census pages on their hard disk with the
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family file. These images can be linked to the sources within the software and
accessed directly without having to rummage through paper files.
Everybody seems to deal with sources and citations in a slightly different way
and it can result in lively conversations when genealogists discuss the finer
points. Can a written copy of a birth certificate be regarded as a prime source or
must we downgrade it because an error may have been made while transcribing
it? Bearing in mind the many errors that appear in original certificates and the
fact I can’t check it against the master document means I am willing to accept it
as a primary source. If this column fails to appear in the next Journal I’ve
probably been burnt at the stake by a band of purists.
Remember what we are trying to do with sources and citations. It is a system
that makes your data traceable and by including your assessment of its
reliability you can include anecdotal information that may prove to be wrong or
could provide a vital clue to a new line of research. If your method of working
is consistent and logical stick with it and don’t be put off by others who may
have found a different way to the same end.
USB Upgrades
In the previous issue of the Journal I mentioned the Universal Serial Bus (USB)
and the even faster USB 2, which is used to link computers a lot of modern
peripherals. I’m indebted to David Wren for reminding me that you can add
USB 2 connections to your PC, whether or not you have any already, using a
card that plugs into a spare PCI slot inside your computer. The cards cost
around £20 and give you four USB connections to the outside world. If you’re
not the sort who feels confident about removing computer covers find a friend
or computer shop to help – it only takes a few minutes to fit.
Archival Quality
A couple of issues ago I was wondering about the longevity of digital records
compared to the paper and photographic items that have been passed down to
me from over a hundred years ago. The more I searched the more contradictory
the evidence appeared to be. The write-once CD-Rs we use are reported to be
good for at least thirty years, but tests performed at a European university
showed failures within the first two years. So where does that leave us? The
advice seems to be make more than one copy, keep them out of sunlight and
copy them on to fresh media every few years.
Sunlight is also the enemy of photographs and paper records, so keep them in a
dry, dark environment. Acid-free paper is advisable for all printed records as it
resists the rapid browning and brittleness we frequently see with paperback
books printed on cheap paper.
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Family Tree Legends
If you’re worried about losing you family data you may be interested in a fairly
recent program called Family Tree Legends. It is an easy to use program with a
lot of similarities to Family Tree Maker, but it has the ability to store a
confidential copy of your family file on the publisher’s server via your Internet
connection. This service is free and means that in the event of a catastrophe you
can download the file and carry on from when you last saved it.
Changing to a new family history program is always disconcerting with the
GEDCOM file to be exported from your current program and imported into the
new one. Some of the information can get lost along the way and scrapbooks
have to be recreated in the new software. The writers of FTL have targeted
Family Tree Maker users by making their program read FTM files directly.
Load the program, open your usual file and all the information, scrapbooks and
pictures appear immediately. Users of other software will have to follow the
GEDCOM export route.
Take a look at its features at www.familytreelegends.com and if you like what
you see it’s available from TWR Computing (twrcomputing.co.uk) for £29.95.
Useful or Interesting Links
Not much space this time, but let’s squeeze a few in.
If you are new to family history there’s a lot of guidance and good advice to be
found at www.british-genealogy.com
If you remember Leicester buses in their maroon and cream livery you may like
to reminisce at www.leicsbushistory.org
Until the reorganisations in the 1970s we mostly knew where British counties
were. This site shows them as they were in 1974 and has a link to a gazetteer
that will be especially useful for overseas readers to find obscure villages and
hamlets.
www.abcounties.co.uk/counties/map.htm
To see what day of the week a specific date fell on take a look at the universal
calendar at
www.earth.com/calendar
Any comments or queries? Please feel free to contact me.
Mike Ratcliff
mratcliff@ntlworld.com
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Your Letters
The Executive Committee Members are happy to receive
letters from any member, whether delivering a brickbat or bouquet, and these
will be dealt with according to content. However, we cannot give credence to,
or print material that is received anonymously. Any member who wishes to
contact the Chairman or any other committee member in total confidence
may do so
__________________
Hello Toni
As a member of Gloucestershire FHS, I received by mistake, (as I believe about
200 others also did) the 115 edition of Leicestershire & Rutland, journal, which
I have really enjoyed reading.
I hope you do not mind me pointing out, that on page 18, March 2004, Mick
Rawle, in his forgotten trades says that hocus pocus was an ice cream seller, in
fact hocus pocus is to do with magic items, such as sleight of hand, trickery,
and deception.
An ice cream seller was an hockey pockey man.
Also I was interested in page 5 January 2004, review of the Joseph Merrick
story, I noted that the nearest living descendent was a Pat Selby, I just wonder
If I may also be related, as my surname is Selby?
Your journal is of a very high standard, and I personally enjoy items that
are computer related, I feel this is where the future lies, which will enable many
more people to find the past.
I do not suppose I will ever know if this item is of interest to you, as I probably
will never see your journal again.
Best wishes
Tony Selby Gloucestershire member 4568
Charles Selby Olney Brook House Methodist Lane, Llantwit, Major,
Vale of Glamorgan CF61 1RH
marton@charlesanthony.freeserve.co.uk
Editor
Most Family History Societies have an exchange of journals, and therefore if
you go to your FH library you may well find many other society journals- not
just U.K, but worldwide.
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Footnote:
You may recall from the December 2003 magazine, I was trying to locate
'Fenton Street' in the 1871 Census.
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I am pleased to say that, using the 'old' maps of Leicester (Borough) on the
open shelves at ROLLR I have managed to find it.
By comparing 'Spencer's New Maps of Leicester' (1862 & 1866)
'Fenton Street' became 'Palmerston Street';
'Bridge Street' (St Matthews) became 'Willow Bridge Street';
and
'New Street' became 'Liverpool Street'.
Philip Kitchen
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Dear Toni
I was amused to read Brian Johnson's report on David Postles' talk to the
Computer Group. I assume David demonstrated a palaeography programme
(see last sentence!)
Best wishes
Kate Thompson
Editor – Whoops, sorry! Another one slipped through the net… … … .
********************
And again… … …
Hello Toni
I am afraid that Brian Johnson in his report on 'Plotting your Past' on page 4,
final paragraph, has confused 'palaeontology' with 'palaeography'.
John Walmsley
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Thank you for printing my 2 articles about the LEWINS and SADDINGTONS
of Measham. I'm now corresponding with far too many newly discovered
relatives to name them all.
Would you be kind enough to correct 2 "typos" in the SADDINGTON article?
ANNIE married George BALL (not BAIL) of Measham, and HARRY married
Muriel GINDERS (not CINDERS!) of Appleby - an unusual surname, isn't it?
Val Waters
val.waters@amserve.com
Editor – My apologies, Val
********************.
I'd like to say a big thank you to all the volunteers that help compiling the CDs.
They are of great help to me and I'm sure many others who don't have time to
or are unable to visit Record Offices, Family History Centre or the Mormon
Church. Your help is greatly appreciated, as is that of the people answer our
cries of help when we get stuck with our research.
Terry Ratcliffe tezbar@bigpond.com
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My thanks to the three members who replied, and especially to John Garner,
whose book, "Prince Wigstan's Legacy" confirmed that Crow Mills
Farm, David Orange's residence when he died in 1868, was sold in 1869 and
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subdivided by Orson Wright in the 1880's. He apparently named the streets
with names commencing with the initials in his name - O WRIGHT, being
Orange Street (as a commemoration of the late owner), Water, Railway, Irlam,
Garden, Healy and Timber Streets. The book was published by Two-Steeples
Press, P O Box 7456 Wigston and is a very interesting history of the Wigston
area from the mid 9th to the 21st centuries.
Many thanks to your readers and your Journal.
Bill Orange
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It was good to see so many of you at the AGM and was pleased to welcome
several visitors to my table at The Sixth Form College, Oadby. I was able to
talk about the page and explain the queries which were put to me.
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pleased to hear from any new entrants if it affects the amount of Spam they
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Interesting Web Sites
Sent in by members
First World War Campaign Medal Index Cards (WO 372)
The Public Record Office - now known as The National Archives - are pleased
to announce that during 2004 the First World War Campaign Medal Index
Cards (WO 372), which will let you find out the medal entitlement of your
ancestors, will be made available at
http://www.documentsonline.pro.gov.uk.
Comprising almost 5.5 million officers and soldiers, men and women, who
served in the Army and Royal Flying Corps during the Great War, this is
essentially the most complete list of those who served in the Great War.
The cards will be loaded alphabetically, and will be made available throughout
2004 as follows:
Letter
Available from
A-B
January 2004
C-E
March 2004
F-J
May 2004
K-O
July 2004
P-S
September 2004
T-Z
November 2004
Women's cards and Mentioned in Despatches will also be made available in
November 2004.
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Mr. George Smith (LRFHS Webmaster) recently composed a tribute for my
Father, S/Sgt. Robert C. Wenskovitch Sr. in his Roll of Honour/Tribute to a
WW II Veteran website and I wanted to let everyone know he did a wonderful
job, in fact he did an excellent job and I think everyone should visit his
wonderful site and take him up on his offer of entering information on our
family members who served in the Military. I think everyone who visits his
Roll Of Honour/Tribute to WW II Veterans will really enjoy it as much as I did
and I would also like to take this time to send a personal THANK YOU to MR.
SMITH for the personal and caring way he entered and edited my Father's
information. Also, I GUARANTEE you'll really enjoy reading his personal
section in the website.
Barbie Graham
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http://members.lycos.co.uk/larpindex
This web-site contains three indexes of different classes of records – Soldiers,
Paupers and Convicts. The acquisition of details relating to any single person
could lead a researcher towards discovering many more details about the
bygone world in which that person lived.
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Check those Resources - More than Once!
By Douglas W. Poulter
I recently, had the opportunity to give a talk, "A Beginner's Introduction to
Genealogy", to a service organization in our community. In preparation, I made
some transparencies for overhead viewing, one of them relating to Ellis Island
(USA) Immigration Records, found on the Internet, at
www.ellisislandrecords.org
I entered a Leicestershire surname of direct interest to me, that of HUBBLE.
My search resulted in 23 HUBBLE names recorded as having come through
Ellis Island on the way to their final destinations in the New World.
Unfortunately, the transparency was damaged in preparation and I decided to
make a new one. This I did, just three days later, again entering the HUBBLE
name as an example.
To my surprise, this time the search resulted in 30 entries! I had entered the
same criteria, and I was under the impression the records were complete. I
looked, more carefully, and noticed that the second name, ADA HUBBLE, of
Leicester, had not been on the first search result. There were, also, six other
new HUBBLE names.
Having an interest in Leicester, and the HUBBLEs from there, and knowing
that the name, Ada, looked familiar to me, I asked for the details of her arrival.
She arrived in New York September 28, 1911, on the SS Mauretania, from
Liverpool. She was age 24, single. I then requested the ship's manifest to find
out the full story about Ada, as she looked like one of my ancestors, and
suspected to be on my HUBBLE family tree.
The two page manifest was, at first, a little confusing as Ada was listed twice,
once having her name crossed out. (Line 4.) There she was though, on line 7 of
pages 184/5. I looked more carefully at the details and confirmed that she was
my Ada, born in Leicester, single, nearest relative, Elizabeth HUBBLE,
Mother, of Coventry Street, Leics., and her final destination was Georgetown,
Canada. This confirmed that she was, in fact, the daughter of John & Elizabeth
(Smith) HUBBLE, of Leicester as she had been living with her widowed
mother at the time of the 1901 census at 3 Dannett Street, and her mother, later,
died at Coventry Street.
And then I looked at the other passengers listed on the same pages of the
manifest. There, above Ada, on lines 5 and 6, was Nellie ALEXANDER, age
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28, and her daughter, also Nellie, age 11 months. On looking more closely, they
were all going to the same place in Canada, and all had the same nearest
relatives as Ada! They had to be related! I looked once more at my HUBBLE
family tree, and there they were. Ada had a sister, Ellen, sometimes called
Nellie, who was believed to have gone to Canada, and "...may have formed a
singing act with her sister, known as the Montrose Sisters." Now I knew
Nellie's married name and that she had a daughter, also Nellie, born in Canada.
I also had ages and could confirm her husband's name. (The manifest showed
they had been there before.)
What a find, and all because I damaged a transparency and had to do it again
three days later. The result was even more surprising as the records of Ellis
Island were believed to have been complete. Are records still being transcribed
and new entries appearing? Apparently so.
There are several lessons I learned from this wonderful experience.
?? Even if I have already looked at a record such as Ellis Island, it pays to
look again, and see if there is anything new.
?? I must always look at the adjoining records, just as one would look at
the neighbours on a census.
?? Three, never give up looking, and record even the smallest of details.
They will come in useful, later!
Oh yes, it remains now for me to look at the other six names that showed up on
the second Ellis Island HUBBLE list. Who were they and where did they come
from? There may be others - from Leicestershire! How about you, do you have
HUBBLEs on your family tree? Have you searched Ellis Island, more than
once?
Douglas W. Poulter,
Palm City Fl
Castlebrom@aol.com
www.castlebrom.com
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Frederick Bailey Deeming
By Janet Deeming
Ashby-De-La-Zouch‘s Infamous Multiple Murderer, Conman,
Bigamist and 'Jack The Ripper' Suspect
Over the last 3 or 4 years my Husband Grahame, and I, have started delving
into his family history and as well as gathering interesting information about his
ancestors who came from Leicester and even further back from Bedworth in
Warwickshire we thought perhaps we could unearth someone details about an
ancestor who was famous, wealthy gentry or, who knows, even royalty. This
has not been the case. However, we have come up with a possible infamous
ancestor, a Frederick Bailey Deeming, who was hung, for murdering his
second wife Emily Mather, in Melbourne Gaol in 1892. He had also murdered
his first Wife Marie Bailey and their four children. On top of this he was a
conman, thief, bigamist, and a “Jack the Ripper” suspect. Not many can beat
that!
Our first suspicions were aroused that there might be a black sheep in the
family when our daughter, Helen Deeming, after joining the police force, was
taken on a tour of Scotland yard’s Black Museum. At the museum she came
across the records of a Frederick Deeming who was a double murderer, having
murdered his wife in England and then murdered a second wife in Australia.
You can imagine the ribbing she received from her police colleagues when they
discovered this. However things were to get worse.
It was a couple of years later, whilst on holiday in Australia, that we discovered
more information about this possible namesake. On visiting old Melbourne
Gaol (a museum now I might add) we walked into one of the cells where there
was an exhibition on Frederick Bailey Deeming, one of Australia’s most
notorious villains, second only to Ned Kelly, who had been hung in Melbourne
gaol for murder in 1892.
The story is long and rather complicated;
Frederick Bailey Deeming was a local Leicestershire man having been born
on the 30th July 1853 in Ashby-de-la-Zouch. He was one of seven children
born to Thomas and Ann Deeming (nee’ Bailey) who were married in
Mancetter, Warwickshire on the 5th November 1846. Both parents were
deeply religious and indeed Frederick was said to have carried a bible with him
wherever he went. Three of his siblings were born in Atherstone,
Warwickshire and three were also born in Ashby-de-la-Zouch. Later the
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family moved to Rainhill, Lancashire, east of Liverpool, where Frederick
became an apprentice plumber.
Frederick was unstable in youth having run away from home on many
occasions and went to sea. He claimed 20 to 30 voyages, jumping ship on most.
He married Marie James from Pembroke in 1880 when he was 27 and Marie
was 26. His brother Albert Deeming (b 1855) also married Marie’s sister
Martha James (b 1856).
On the 1881 census Marie Deeming is shown
as a visitor at the house of Albert and Martha
Deeming who were living at 98 Argyle Street,
South Tranmere, Cheshire.
In 1881, soon after his marriage, Frederick
went to Melbourne, Australia on his own Marie following him later.
Frederick and
Marie had four children, Martha born 1884,
Sidney, Leila and Bertha who were all born in
Australia. During this time Frederick went
under many aliases including Baron Swanson,
Williams, Lawson and Harry Dunn and was
employed as a plumber and gas fitter.
Ultimately he set up his own business. In 1882 he received a sentence of 6
months for larceny of gas burners. and in 1887 he was in trouble with the
Insolvency Court and absconded to South Africa with his family. Here he
quickly earned the reputation of being a cheat and thief. He again abandoned
his wife and family and returned to England. He now became a bigamist by
marrying a Helen Matheson. After the marriage ceremony off he went again,
this time to Uruguay where he was extradited and spent 9 months in gaol in
Hull for fraud. When he was released in July 1891 he rented a house in Rainhill
in Lancashire under the name of Albert Williams and was reunited with his
original Wife Marie, where they lived what seemed to be a normal existence.
However, it became apparent to neighbours that Marie and the children had
disappeared. Frederick contended that his Wife and children had simply “gone
away”.
On September 22nd 1891 Frederick, under the alias of Albert Oliver Williams,
married Emily Mather (b.1864) in Liverpool. Frederick told the Mather family
that he was returning to military service in India but instead Frederick and
Emily had both sailed to Australia on the 2nd November 1891 aboard Kaiser
Wilhelm II. They arrived in Victoria on 15th December 1891 and made their
home at 57 Andrew Street in Windsor, which Frederick rented under the name
of Drewin. Frederick left the house after Christmas and again his wife had
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disappeared. A few months later, the owner of the house had begun to show
prospective renters the lodgings when it was noticed that there was a repugnant
smell. The police were called in and after lifting the floorboards, discovered the
body of Emily Mather encased in cement under the hearthstone with her throat
cut and her body in advanced stages of decomposition.
By the 7th March a warrant was issued for the arrest of Frederick under his alias
Albert Williams.
The police authorities in Melbourne contacted the police in Liverpool who were
notified to keep a watch out for Frederick. Subsequently the police visited
Dinham Villa, Rainhill where they discovered the remains of Marie and the
four children (all under 8 years old) entombed in concrete under the
floorboards.
Nine days after killing Emily Mather (this was thought to have taken place on
Christmas Day 1891). Frederick enrolled at a matrimonial agency in Melbourne
(as Duncan). He never stayed long enough in Melbourne for an introduction as
he decided to sail for Sydney on the S.S. Adelaide using yet another alias Baron
Swanston. On board the ship he met and courted a pretty 22-year-old English
immigrant called Kate Rounsefell and after plying her with expensive
jewellery she consented to marry him. Frederick went ahead to Perth to rent a
house. He had purchased cement and lifted the
hearthstone in preparation of her arrival.
Fortunately for Kate, she was stopped by police in
Melbourne while on her way to Western Australia
to meet Frederick. She was very lucky not to have
become Frederick’s next victim.
Frederick was arrested in Southern Cross, Western
Australia on the 11th March 1892, eight days after
the discovery of Emily’s body. He was taken back
to Melbourne where he stood for trial. The trial
took only four days, the jury needing very little
time to reject Deeming’s plea of insanity and
declaring him guilty. Frederick was condemned to
be hanged at Melbourne gaol and was duly
executed on 23rd May 1892. Outside the gaol a crowd of 12,000 had gathered.
Frederick had one of the biggest trials in Australia and huge amounts of new
stories were written about him. At one time it was alleged that he was Jack the
Ripper and indeed he is said to have confessed this to fellow prisoners. For
many years the death mask of Frederick Deeming was shown to visitors to New
Scotland Yard as that of Jack the Ripper. Although few experts still contend
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that Frederick was a possible Jack the Ripper, his notoriety in the case has been
immortalised in the following verse:
“On the twenty-first of May.
Frederick Deeming passed away;
On the scaffold he did say
Ta-ra-da-boom-di-ay
Ta-ra-da-boom-di-ay
This is a happy day
An East End holiday,
The Ripper’s gone away.”
Emily Mather was buried in Melbourne Cemetery and the following was
written on her monument:ADVICE
To those who hereafter come reflecting
Upon this text of her sad ending:
To warn her sex of their intending
For marrying in haste, is depending
On such a fate, Too late for amending.
By Her Friend
E Thunderbolt.
The Deeming murder case also caused a sensation in Britain, questions were
asked in the House of Commons whilst in Rainhill extra telegraph lines had to
be connected and 22 clerks hired to handle the demands of journalists covering
the Deeming family murders. Public interest in the case necessitated the
scheduling of extra rail services, as the morbidly curious descended on Rainhill
and slowly shuffled passed Dinham Villa. Over 10,000 lined the streets and
crowded into the cemetery to watch the funeral of Marie Deeming and her
children, flowers were left anonymously on their graves for years afterwards. .
My husband’s Grandfather Jabez Deeming was born and died in Leicester and
his parents Thomas and Ann Deeming (nee Ward) were originally from
Bedworth in Warwickshire. Bedworth is only a few miles distance from
Mancetter in Warwickshire where Frederick Bailey Deeming’s parents
Thomas and Ann Deeming (nee Bailey) were married and we thought at first
that Thomas and Ann, parents of Frederick, were the same Thomas and Ann my
husband’s Great Grand parents. That was a close one PHEW !!!!!! There
probably is some connection i.e cousin, uncle but at least there is one good
thing, we cannot be a direct descendant of Frederick as all his children had been
murdered.
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Part of display taken in Melbourne
Gaol
Footnote:
Frederick was represented in court by Alfred Deakin, later Prime Minister of
Australia and William Forlonge
Crowds filled the courthouse to overflowing as witness after witness identified
Frederick under his various aliases. The trial took only four days.
Frederick put in a plea of insanity. Experts in "mind disease" appeared on both
sides. Frederick claimed that his Mother and Father had both been in mental
asylums in England and that, in fact, his mother had died in one. He also
claimed that he had undergone treatment for fits in both Calcutta and Sydney
hospital and had been too ill to leave his cell in Hull Gaol, England. However
there was no time allowed for the defence to verify these assertions. One expert
who appeared for the defence was a Dr Springthorpe, who read from his
examination notes "His Mother always tells him if he has a lady friend to kill
her - always pestering him and telling him to do something wrong. She had
always said he was born to be hung, and told everyone so, his brothers
included… " Frederick’s mother was dead, but he stated that she visited him
regularly at 2 am every morning. It is thought his mother died sometime in the
1870’s.
Syphilis, epileptic fits and blows to the head were considered physical
manifestations of insanity. Frederick had scars on his legs, head and neck and
claimed he had caught syphilis in South Africa. He also claimed that he had
suffered from fits for as long as he could remember and his escort back from
Perth testified to his having two fits. Experts testifying for the prosecution
questioned the genuineness of these attacks. They also argued about the
relevance of family history in determining mental disease.
Janet Deeming
jsdeeming@hotmail.com
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The Starmers of Cosby and Kettering
By Dr Ian Payne, FSA
The name Starmer (or Stormer, sometimes Starmore) is not particularly
common and is associated with the counties of Northampton and Leicester. The
late Basil Cottle, author of The Penguin Dictionary of English Surnames,
believed that it had originated in the Stormsworth-and-Westrill district of the
Leicestershire in the middle ages; but this is not evidenced by any of the
personal names that occur in the medieval documents from this area cited in J.
Nichols, History and Antiquities of Leicestershire, iv. 367, where the locative
surname seems to have been 'Stormsworth' (for example, Robert de
Stormsworth tempore Edward II), not 'Starmore'. A more recent author (R.
McKinley, A History of British Surnames, 1990, pp.56-7) has argued that the
name Star(e)smore derives from a vanished ancient place-name near
Lutterworth. Nichols, however, in the above reference, gives the place-name as
Stormsworth, Stormere, and Stormsmore – but not Staresmore, whose family
pedigree in the 1619 heraldic visitation of the county states was originally a
place in Staffordshire. I do not believe that the Starmers and Staresmores are
the same family: they have a quite different early history and geographical
spread. Whatever the Starmers' remote origins, the greatest concentration of
early wills places the family at Harlestone, Northants, early in the 16th century,
as the published indices show. But the best-documented branch, of which many
descendants are alive today, flourished at Kettering from the mid-17th century.
It is from them that the Cosby branch stems.
The progenitor of the Kettering Starmers was Ralph, son of Thomas and Isabel,
the earliest Starmer baptism in the parish register (31.1.1676). Ralph made an
important marriage, at Kettering, with Elizabeth Staresmore of Deene on
26.11.1699 (of which more later). This Kettering line continued with their son,
also called Ralph (1712), as follows (for reasons of economy, each name
immediately after the semicolon is that of the son of the preceding marriage):
Ralph (bap. 26.4.1712) m. Ann Palmer (31.1.1734); John (bap. 6.12.1735) m.
Hannah Bland (5.2.1756); Thomas (bap. 18.12.1756; d.1831) m. Elizabeth
Nurrish (21.5.1777). Among Thomas and Elizabeth's children were two sons
called Thomas. (Thomas I. b. 13.7.1777, apprenticed by indenture dated
25.11.1794, m. Sarah Curtis 24.11.1797; and Thomas II. bap. 4.7.1803; m.
Mary Parker 14.10.1824). From Thomas II and Mary Parker probably descend
most of the Kettering Starmers alive today. (I am grateful to the Rector and
Churchwardens of Kettering SS. Peter and Paul for these details extracted from
the original registers in their possession.)
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Early family connections with Leicestershire occurred in 1777, when Thomas
(1756-1831) and his brother Ralph 'Starmore' – both weavers of Kettering –
served in the Leicestershire Militia (Northants Militia Lists 1777, Northants
Record Socety, xxv. 109). But the Cosby branch originated with the third son of
Thomas Starmer and Elizabeth Nurrish: William (b. 1.5.1790 Kettering; m.
Mary Chamberlain at Cosby 5.10.1809) of whom I am a descendant, through
my paternal grandmother Annie Gertrude Winifred Starmer b.1897 (William
and Mary’s great-granddaughter via Edward b. 24.9.1816 Cosby, and Alfred b.
26.3.1861). According to the 1851 Census of Cosby, which includes
framework-knitter and stocking-weaver among the family's occupations, the
heads of two out of four Starmer households there had actually been born in
Kettering: William (mentioned above); and his brother Joseph (bap. 2.7.1798 at
Kettering).
The Starmers are of interest genealogically in three respects. The first is their
initial marriage into the Staresmore family of Deene, itself a cadet branch of an
old Staffordshire family long settled at Frolesworth in south-west
Leicestershire. Elizabeth 'Starsmore', Ralph Starmer's wife, was the daughter of
Joseph Staresmore and Elizabeth Bland (m. 4.7.1675 Kettering). Joseph's
father, Richard Staresmore, was also of Kettering, where he m. Elizabeth
Stanyard 10.6.1643: he was the younger brother of Edward Staresmore of
Deene, gent. (bur. 1.8.1684 at Deene) and a son of Edmund of Deene, gent. (d.
1653) by Mary, daughter of Roger Andrew of Winwick (d. 1658), who were
married 16.4.1607 at Rockingham. (The royalist Staresmores are well
documented in J. Nichols, History, iv. 190; Visitation of Northamptonshire
1618-19, Harleian Society (1887), 137; and Visitation of Leicestershire 1619,
Harleian Society Pubs ii. 5-6. But the fullest and most accurate source for the
Deene family is a manuscript pedigree, prepared (c.1929) from primary sources
by the antiquary Henry Isham Longden, and deposited in the Northants Record
Office, ref. 'H.I. Longden: Staresmore of Deene'. For the Andrew family see
Visitation of Northamptonshire 1618-19, 64.)
The Staresmore match brings us to the second point of interest. Through this
Staresmore-Andrew marriage the Starmers descend from Sir Thomas Malory,
of Newbold Revel, Warwickshire, still the best candidate for the authorship of
Le Morte d'Arthur. (This particular Malory family is very well documented, for
example, in Sir William Dugdale's History and Antiquities of Warwickshire
Illustrated (1656), 54-6, and Sheila Mallory Smith's A History of the Mallory
Family (1985), 22-9 and chart on p. 138; and many separate studies have been
written about the Warwickshire author.) Briefly stated, Sir Thomas Malory
(d.1471) had two great-grand-daughters and coheirs, Margery and Dorothy.
Dorothy Malory married Edward Cave of Winwick, and one of their two
daughters, Catherine Cave (d.1555), married Sir Thomas Andrew, and
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produced Roger mentioned above. (See Mallory Smith, History, 41-4, and the
Andrew sources cited above and below.)
Roger Andrew married Magdalen, daughter of William Box, citizen and grocer
of London and Berkshire (Visitation of London 1568, Harleian Society Pubs
cix/cx. 69): William Box may be of interest to Starmer descendants who are
also lovers of Elizabethan English music, in that he was one of many people
taken to court by one of our greatest and most litigious composers, William
Byrd (c.1540-1623), in 1590-1. (The dispute, which Byrd lost, was over his
newly-acquired rights in the Berkshire manor of Horspath, near Abingdon, part
of a holding which Henry VIII had granted to William Box senior in 1546: see
John Harley, William Byrd, Gentleman of the Chapel Royal (1999), 98-100.)
Finally, the Staresmore-Starmer connection transmits some interesting royal
descents. The first of these, a double descent from Henry I, runs as follows (in
the interest of economy, the parent is in each case followed directly by the
child, after the semicolon, and marriages are not always given): Henry I; Robert
earl of Gloucester (the most famous of Henry's many illegitimate children);
Maud d.1189 m. Ranulf de Gernon earl of Chester d.1153; Hugh of Kevelioc
earl of Chester d.1181 m. Bertrade de Montfort d.1227; Matilda and Mabel.
Both these daughters of Hugh of Chester are ancestors of Roger Andrew, by
two distinct lines:
1)
MATILDA d.1233 m. David earl of Huntingdon d.1219; Ada m. Sir
Henry Hastings; Sir Henry Hastings m. Joan (daughter of William de Cauntelo
d.1254 by Eva, daughter of Eva Marshal and sister of Maud – see below); Sir
John Hastings d.1313; Elizabeth m. Roger de Grey of Ruthin d.1353; Reynold,
Lord Grey d.1388 m. Alianor Lestrange (d. 1396: see also below); Edith m.
John Cockayne of Bury Hatley d.1427; Elizabeth m. Laurence Cheney d.1461;
Mary m. John Allington; Margaret m. Robert Newport d.1518; Agnes m.
Thomas Andrew of Charwelton d.1541; Sir Thomas Andrew (father of Roger).
(For David earl of Huntingdon see, for example, P. Montague-Smith, The Royal
Line of Succession, Pitkin Pictorial Publications, 1986, 28; for the Hastings,
Grey and Lestrange of Knockyn families, see the charts in Complete Peerage,
vi. 366, 152 and the text in xii part 1 347ff, respectively. The Cockayne-Cheney
match is included, for example, in A.E. Cockayne, Cockayne Memoranda
(1873); the Cheney-Allington-Newport connection is set out in the chart
pedigree in the Visitations of Cambridgeshire 1575 and 1619, Harleian Society
Pubs, xli. 15, and in C. Parsons, 'Horseheath Hall and its Owners', in
Proceedings of the Cambridge Antiquarian Society, xli (1948). The NewportAndrew relationship is well documented in M. Toynbee, 'The Andrew Family
of Daventry', Northamptonshire Past and Present, iii no.3 (1962), 95-105, at
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pp.95-6, quoting material on the Newports from Miscellanea Genealogica et
Heraldica, series v, vol. iii, 67-8; and M.I.s).
2)
MABEL m. William d'Albini d.1221; Nichola m. Roger de Somery
d.1273 (her sister Isabella m. John Fitzalan, another ancestor of Alianora
Fitzalan); Joan de Somery m. Sir John L'Estrange d.1276; John L'Estrange
d.1309; John L'Estrange d.1311; Roger L'Estrange d.1349; Roger L'Estrange
d.1382 m. Alianora Fitzalan d. 1385 (see also below); Alianora L'Estrange
d.1396 m. Reynold Grey of Ruthin d.1388 (descent continues as 1. above).
(For L'Estrange and Grey, see Complete Peerage references above; for Fitzalan,
Burke's Dormant and Extinct Peerages (1883), 200, where Alianor is spelt
Alaive. The most useful source for d'Albini and de Somery for our purposes is
the chart printed in G. Famham, Leicestershire Medieval Pedigrees (1925), 11.)
A second royal descent is from King John's illegitimate daughter, Joan, who
married Llewelyn Fawr prince of Wales d.1240: their daughter Gwladus Ddu
m. Ralph Mortimer d.1246; Roger Mortimer d.1282 m. Maud, daughter of
William de Braose and Eva Marshall (Eva was the daughter of William
Marshall earl of Pembroke: see also below); Isabel m. John Fitzalan d.1272;
Richard Fitzalan d.1302; Edmund Fitzalan d.1326; Alianor Fitzalan d.1385 m.
Roger L'Estrange d.1382; Alianor L'Estrange d. 1396 (descent continues as 2.
above).
(For King John's daughter as ancestor of the Mortimers, and the descent down
to Isabel and John Fitzalan, see Complete Peerage, ix. 275-81; see also the
Mortimer-Braose marriage in Burke's Dormant and Extinct Peerage, 72.)
The Starmers also have two parallel Welsh descents – from Anarawd and
Cadell, sons of Rhodri Mawr of Wales d.878.
1.
ANARAWD d.916; Idwal Foel d.942; Meurig d. 986; Idwal d. 996;
Iago d.1039; Cynan; Gruffydd ap Cynan d.1137; Owain Gwynedd d. 1170;
Iorwerth Drwyndwn; Llewelyn Fawr d.1240 m. Joan, illegitimate daughter of
King John; Gwladus Ddu m. Ralph Mortimer; Roger Mortimer d. 1282 m.
Maud (descent as above).
2.
CADELL d.909; Hywel Dda d.950; Owain d.988; Maredudd d. 999;
Llewelyn ap Seisyll d.1023; Gruffydd ap Llewelyn d.1063 m. Ealdgyth of
Mercia; Nest m. Osbern Fitzrichard; Nest m. Bernard of Neufmarche; Sybil m.
Miles of Gloucester earl of Hereford; Bertha m. William de Braose; Reynold de
Braose d.1228; William de Braose d. 1230 m. Eva Marshall; Maud m. Roger
Mortimer d.1282 (descent as above).
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(Both Welsh descents are set out in Montague-Smith, The Royal Line of
Succession, 31: this also shows Eva Marshall's descent from Dermot
MacMurrough, king of Leinster (p.32); the descent of David earl of Huntingdon
from Malcolm III Canmore, king of Scots (p.28); and the Saxon descent of the
Norman kings (pp.5-6).)
The information provided above should be sufficiently complete to enable
interested readers to construct an outline chart; but there are other descents,
especially from Anglo-Saxon and early medieval French royal and noble
families, besides those obtained via the houses of Flanders (Matilda wife of
William I) and Cerdic (St Margaret wife of Malcolm III Canmore), too complex
to recite here.
Dr Ian Payne
ian@paynei26.fsnet.co.uk
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Solving a Family Mystery
By Ann Cave
I have always been intrigued by a certain lack of family on my mothers side and
couldn't find out the reason. So the detective in our family emerges from out of
the woodwork.
My late mother was born in Leicester in 1916. My grandmother, Ida Austen
(Snow), unbeknown to my mother had 3 children from a first marriage. These
children stayed in Surrey with their father and in 1923 two of them emigrated to
Adelaide, Australia. The children were shown photographs of my mother only
to be told she was there mother's adopted daughter. Then out of the blue around
1955, contact was made to my late parents, through a relative in Croydon,
Surrey who knew of my mothers existence. He informed her of the half sisters
in Adelaide .The secrecy surrounding my mother was how you would expect it
to be, as her mother was still married to her first husband and being Catholics
they obviously wouldn't divorce.
When my grandparents came to Leicester, they kept a commercial Travellers
hotel called "The Norvic" in Nelson Street opposite the London Road, Railway
Station. I had looked at
the electoral registers
showing them both at
this address with my
grandmother and they
were using name of
second husband. I
searched
without
success
on
many
occasions to find their
elusive
marriage
certificate
of
2nd
husband only to be told
by one of our helpful
librarians "start looking from her husband's year of death". That made it easy to
find, there it was, three years after her first husband's death, in 1947, and only
two years from her death in 1952. Was she legally married to Bill Larkman in
1950, her second husband, in Maidstone, Kent?
We now realise our family secret is nothing out of the ordinary, but times have
changed. The happy ending to my mother's sisters in Australia is she did meet
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the granddaughter of the family who came here in 1974. When my parents died,
a lot of important papers were destroyed. The most important address and
phone number went missing, It belonged to this family, the only link with the
other half of our family in Australia. During the last few years I have asked all
the usual questions and tried all the usual routes to get in touch, posting my
information on many family history sites with no luck at all.
Only a few months ago I wrote to another surname family tree website, owned
by a man who had the name of Larkman. I enquired about the possibility of a
connection as it was mother's maiden name. He replied, telling me he had a lot
of information on the origins of this Norfolk surname, and would put me in
touch with a Nottingham man of the same name who could perhaps help me
more.
I was aware a few years ago that someone had written to my father asking for
details to my mother's family name. Needless to say father, who was shocked to
think someone might be unearthing the past, told us he most definitely wasn't
related and promptly wrote back to that effect. Enclosed with this letter were
lots of photos and addresses, which father thought might possibly help this man
with his research. And so everything comes full circle as only a few months
ago, I was put in touch with this very same man. He sent me these missing
addresses, and so once more our link with Australia has been renewed. I
searched the White Pages directory and found a phone number to match the
address of the granddaughter. Luckily they were still living in same house after
30 years and were keen to get in touch with us, but had lost our addresses.
I had struck oil and have been walking on cloud nine ever since. So its
Adelaide, Australia here I come… … ..
Ann Cave, 3 Cavendish Crescent, Hugglescote, Coalville. LE67 2GY
nw.cave@ntlworld.com
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Welcome to the following New Members
February 2004
A0265 ARCHER , Mrs. NORMA E. 6 St. ANDREWS CLOSE, ROMILEY , STOCKPORT , CHESHIRE
SK6 3JR
B0962 BAKER, Mrs. ADRIENNE R, 11 SOUTHDOWN DR, THURMASTON, LEICESTER LE4 8HS
B0963 BRAILSFORD, Mrs. LINDA J, 7 KNIGHTS CLOSE, STENSON FIELDS, DERBY, DE24 3DL
B0964 BAXTER , Mr. RICHARD D, 2 WOOD ST, MERSTHAM, SURREY , RH1 3PF
B0965 BRYAN . Mr. JOHN P, 4 HURLEY GARDENS, BURPHAM, GUILDFORD, SURREY, GU4 7YH
B0966 BURTON, Mrs.MARIANNE S, CRO-LEIGH COTTAGE, SHORE RD, LAMLASH, ISLE OF
ARRAN KA27 8LG
B0967 BOTTOMLEY Mr. STEPHEN C, LOWLAND COTTAGE, St. CATHERINES HILL, St. MARTIN
JERSEY CHANNEL ISLANDS JE3 6DB
B0968 BRYANS, Mr. DAVID, 19 FULMAR CLOSE, COLCHESTER, ESSEX, CO4 3FJ
C0608 COLE , Miss. MARIANNE, ALEXANDRA VILLA, 20 ZIG ZAG RD, VENTNOR, ISLE OF
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C0609 COWLEY, Mrs. ALISON, 4 THE GREEN, ALLESTREE, DERBY, DE22 2RH
D0314 DILKS, Mr. STEPHEN B, 1302 BROOKDALE TERRACE, VIENNA,VIRGINIA,22182, U.S.A
D0315 DEXTER, Mr. DAVID, 1036 PEMBROOK DRIVE, NEENAH, WISCONSIN 54956, U.S.A.
D0316 DICK, Mrs. PATRICIA R. 937 Mt. EDEN RD, Mt. ROSKILL, AUCKLAND 1004 NEW ZEALAND
E0163 ELLIS , Mrs. BRENDA, 56 SIDNEY RD, RUGBY, WARKS. CV11 5LD
E0164 ELLIOTT ,Mr. PAUL ROBERT, 153 GLENHILLS BOULEVARD, LEICESTER, LE2 8UH
F0272 FIELD , Mr. PHILIP KEITH, 1 GILLAMORE DRIVE, WHITWICK , LEICS. LE67 5PA
G0415 GEESON, Mrs. LINDA J, 20 NENE GROVE , AUCKLEY DONCASTER, S/YORKS DN9 3JJ
G0416 GREEN, Mrs. ANN, 15 ELGAR DRIVE, LONG EATON, NOTTINGHAM, NG10 3PY
G0417 GILDOVE, Mr.DAVID - Mrs.ROSIE 40 REDWOOD AVE, MELTON MOWBRAY, LEICS.
LE13 1UT
G0418 GODRICH , Mr. STEPHEN J, 13 NORWOOD CLOSE, SWALLOWS GREEN, HINCKLEY
LEICS. LE10 1TS
G0419 GOODMAN, Mr.FRED-Mrs.BARBARA 18 THE OVAL, MKT HARBORO, LEICS. LE16 7LB
G0420 GREEN, Dr. ANDREW , 59 BARROW RD, SILEBY, LEICESTER LE12 7LW
G0421 GRUDGINGS, Mr. JOHN ,14 BEACON DRIVE, LOUGHBORO, LEICS. LE11 2BD
H0714 HARE, Mrs. SUE, 6 STANHOPE TERRACE, HORNCASTLE , LINCS. LN9 5EG
H0715 HASELGROVE, Mrs. ALISON, 4 CHARLES WAY, WHETSTONE, LEICESTER LE8 6WA
H0716 HEWITT, Mr TERENCE L. 52 BIDDLE RD, LITTLETHORPE , LEICESTER , LE19 2HD
H0717 HUBBARD, Mr. D.P. - Mrs. B.D. 40 FALCON RD, ANSTEY LEICESTER LE7 7FY
H0718 HAWORTH , Mr. R. - Mrs. P. 1769 MELTON RD, REARSBY , LEICESTER LE7 4YR
H0719 HARDWICK, Mrs. LAVINIA, 26 LAURELWOOD RD, DROITWICH SPA, WORCS. WR9 7SE
J0205 JEFFREY, Mr. STEVEN, 60 SANVEY LANE , AYLESTONE , LEICESTER LE2 8NF
J0206 JONES, Mrs. PAULETTE, ROSEBRIARS, 22 - 24 MAIN ST, KIRKBY GREEN - LINCOLN
LN4 3PE
K0189 KNIGHT , Mrs. JACQUELINE ANN, 94 HEACHAM DRIVE, LEICESTER, LE4 0LG
K0190 KNIGHT , Mr.G.A.HOLMAN-Mr.G.A 1A EDWARD RD, FLECKNEY, LEICESTER, LE8 8AD
M0528 MELLOR , Mrs. VALERIE, 51 CHORLEY WAY , WIRRAL, MERSEYSIDE, CH63 9LS
O0093 OVER , Mr. FRANK, 14 LANGTON ROAD, WIGSTON, LEICESTER LE18 2HT
P0461 PETHERBRIDGE , Mrs. AUDREY K, 115 LOUTH RD, SCARTHO, GRIMSBY N.E. LINCS.
DN33 2JU
P0462 POULTER, Mr. DOUGLAS, 2232 Sw DANFORTH Cir, PALM CITY, FL,34990, U.S.A.
P0463 PARR, Mrs.VICKI, GREENWAYS, 75 THE FLATTS, SOWERBY, THIRSK, N/YORKS YO7 1LZ
P0464 POTTER ,Mr. & Mrs. BERNARD, 9 AVON CLOSE, OADBY , LEICESTER , LE2 4JD
P0465 PALLETT, Mrs. JENNIFER, 41 HEATH RD, MARKET BOSWORTH, NUNEATON , WARKS
CV13 0NX
R0324 ROWE, Mr. MICHAEL JOHN , 19 PETWORTH DRIVE , LEICESTER, LE3 9RF
R0325 ROBERTS , Mr. DEREK ARTHUR, 63 NELSON DRIVE, HINCKLEY , LEICS. LE10 1PH
R0326 RICHARDSON , Mrs. PAMELA , 66 GREAT BOWDEN RD, MARKET HARBOROUGH
LEICS. LE16 7DG
S0768 SMEDLEY, Mr. MICHAEL J, 89 CASTLE ROCK DRIVE, COALVILLE, LEICES LE67 4SE
S0769 SNUSHALL, Mr. GEOFFREY E, THE COTTAGE, LINKS RD, KIRBY MUXLOE, LEICESTER
LE9 2BP
S0770 SOUTH , Mr. JOHN A, 24 WALTHAM RISE, MELTON MOWBRAY , LEICS. LE13 1EJ
S0771 SMITH, Mr. DARRYL ANDREW , 101 WESTCOTES DRIVE, LEICESTER, LE3 0SQ
S0772 SLACK, Mrs. CELIA, APPLETREE COTTAGE , THE GREEN--19 MAIN STREET SPROXTON
MELTON MOWBRAY LE14 4QS
S0773 SMITH, Mrs. ALTHEA LILIAN, 38 DURHAM RD, LOUGHBORO, LEICS. LE11 5UA
W0645 WORTHY, Mr. GEOFFREY, 2 LINFORD CLOSE, WIGSTON MAGNA, LEICES LE18 3PZ
W0646 WADE , Mrs. KATHLEEN F., 8 WOODBANK RD, GROBY LEICESTER LE6 0BN
W0647 WALLACE, Mr.JOHN - Mrs.ERICA, 4 NANTWICH RD, AUDLEY, STOKE ON TRENT
ST7 8DH
W0648 WALFORD, Mr. J.G. CHORCAILL , HARBOUR ROAD, REAY BY THURSO, CAITHNESS
KW14 7RG
W0649 WEBB, Mr. JOHN, 81 CHRISTOPHER DRIVE , LEICESTER, LE4 9FX
March 2004
B0979 BRADSHAW, Mrs. LESLEY ALISON, STANDERLANDS, TERRINGTON, YORK ,
N/YORKS. YO60 6PP
B0980 BECK, Mrs. JOAN MARGARET, 19 THORNLANDS, EASINGWOLD, YORKS. YO61 3QQ
B0981 BRASH, Mrs. DOT., 1 LEE CLOSE, STONEY STANTON, LEICESTER, LE9 4ED
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B0982 BELL, Mr. PETER ROBERT, 9 ANDREWS PLACE, HUNSTANTON , NORFOLK, PE36 5PD
B0983 BROWN, Miss. ALISON MAY, 76 QUEENS DRIVE, ENDERBY, LEICESTER, LE19 2LJ
B0984 BARRATT, Mr. COLIN ERNEST, (PF49414) ISTANBUL, FOREIGN+COMMON WEALTH OF.
KING CHARLES STREET
LONDON SW1 2AH
B0985 BECKETT, Mr. MICHAEL GRAHAM, 11 POWYS AVENUE, OADBY, LEICESTER, LE2 2DQ
B0986 BREWARD, Mr. RAYMOND CLIFFORD, FLAT 29--HIGHAM WAY HOUSE, HIGHAM WAY BURBAGE HINCKLEY LEICS. LE10 2PQ
B0987 BRIERS, Miss. ANDREA HEATHER, 7 GEORGE ST, KINGS LYNN, NORFOLK, PE30 2AQ
C0614 CLOUGH, Mr. HOWARD JEFFERY, 3 HIGHFIELD ST, STONEY STANTON, LEICES, LE9 4DF
C0615 CRONIN, Mrs. JANE MARILYN, 11 BROOKSBY CLOSE, OADBY, LEICESTER, LE2 5AB
C0616 CAWTE, Dr. E.C. , HALF ACRE COTTAGE, NOTTINGHAM RD, LOUNT - ASHBY-DE-LAZOUCH LEICS. LE65 1SD
C0617 COPELAND, Mr. RONALD WILLIAM, 11A PIERS ROAD, GLENFIELD, LEICESTER LE3 8BP
C0618 CHAMPION , Mrs. EVELYN BETTY, 21 HOUGHTON STREET, LEICESTER, LE5 0EF
E0165 EVANS, Ms. JUDY , 28 BURMA ROAD, LONDON , N16 9BJ
F0278 FARROW, Mr.GEORGE - Mrs.JEAN, 81 ALEXANDRA ST, THURMASTON, LEICES LE4 8FE
G0428 GREEN, Mrs. PAULINE JILL, 25 DARENTH DRIVE, LEICESTER , LE4 0PJ
G0429 GOSLING, Mr. IAN THOMAS, 41 BUCKINGHAM DRIVE, AYLESTONE, LEICESTER, LE2 8PY
G0430 GEE,Mr. RAY - Mrs. JOY,11 FRANKLYN RD, OLD AYLESTONE, LEICESTER, LE2 8LN
G0431 GRIFFITHS, Mrs.M.JANET-Mr.JOHN, 57 HYLION RD, W KNIGHTON, LEICESTER LE2 6JE
H0725 HERBERT, Mr. ANTHONY, WHETSTONE PASTURES FARM, WHETSTONE, LEICESTER
LE8 6LX
H0726 HOLDER, Mr. ANTHONY BRIAN, 1 PACKHORSE GREEN, LEICESTER, LE2 9FN
H0727 HAWKSWORTH, Mr. HARRY G, POOL VIEW, 43 MARKFIELD RD, GROBY, LEICESTER
LE6 0FL
I0041 ICHIKAWA, Mrs. VALERIE, 8 BURGESS COURT, BURLAND RD, BRENTWOOD, ESSEX
CM15 9BL
J0208 JUDD, Mrs. GAYLE, 19288 BOUNTIFUL ACRES, SARATOGA, SANTA CLARA CALIFORNIA
95070
U.S.A.
J0209 JONES , Ms. PAM, 54 CENTRAL DRIVE, CLIPSTONE , MANSFIELD, NOTTS. NG21 9AG
L0292 LUDBROOK, Mr. MARK B , 30 GALLOWAY CLOSE, BARWELL, LEICESTER LE9 8HL
L0293 LEWIN, Mr. ROBIN F, RINGWOOD COTTAGE, BIRNAM, DUNKELD, PERTHSHIRE PH8 0DW
L0294 LORD, Mrs. BRENDA, 14 PARK HOUSE, PARK DRIVE, MKT HARBORO, LEICS. LE16 7BS
L0295 LEONARD, Mr. PATRICK, FAIRLIGHT,14 CROSS ST, MOULTON , NORTHANTS NN3 7RZ
M0533 MOUNFIELD, Mrs. PATRICIA, 14 HOLMLEIGH GDNS, THURNBY, LEICESTER, LE7 7QH
M0534 MOORE, Mr. MELVYN A.E., STABLE COTTAGE, CRAZE LOWMAN, TIVERTON
DEVON EX16 7DG
M0535 MEIGH, Mrs. EILEEN MAY, 243 BROOKSIDE, BURBAGE, LEICSTER LE10 2TJ
M0536 MASON, Mrs. MONA C, THE OLD CHAPEL, MAIN ST, WILLOUGHBY WATERLEYS
LEICESTER LE8 6UF
P0469 PEARSON, Mr. JOHN ROBERT, FAIRLAWN, SKETCHLEY MANOR LANE, BURBAGE
LEICS. LE10 2NQ
P0470 PRATT, Mrs. CAROL ANNE, 51 SADDINGTON RD, FLECKNEY, LEICESTER, LE8 8AX
R0327 RICHARDSON, Mr. ALAN JOHN, 71 NURSERY ROAD, LEICESTER, LE5 2HQ
S0783 SKERMER, Mr. KEITH EDWARD, 138 SLEETMOOR LANE, SOMERCOTES, ALFRETON
DERBYS. DE55 1RF
S0784 STANDISH, Mrs. CHRISTINE ANNE, 7 WINDMILL GARDENS, KIBWORTH HARCOURT
LEICESTER
LE8 0LX
S0785 STEWART , Mr. EVERETT, 7 MANOR CLOSE, BOUGHTON, NEWARK, NOTTS. NG22 9JS
T0315 TAYLOR, Mr. JOHN MICHAEL, 32 COSBY RD, COUNTESTHORPE , LEICESTER LE8 5PE
T0316 TURNER, Mr. COLIN M. 11 RED HOUSE RISE, LEICESTER LE2 9LZ
W0659 WARIMG-MOORE, Mrs. SUSAN, 19 BURNTWICK DRIVE, LOWER HALSTOW,
SITTINGBOURNE
KENT ME9 7DX
W0660 WARD, Mr. WILLIAM JOHN , HAIMWOOD , LLANDRINO, LLANYMYNECH, POWYS
WALES SY22 6SQ
W0661 WRIGHT, Mrs. SONIA, 11 CORNWALLIS AVE, LEICESTER , LE4 0QP
W0662 WALTERS, Mr. STEVE, 23 BARLEY CLOSE, GLENFIELD, LEICESTER LE3 8SB
W0663 WILFORD, Mr.MIKE - Mrs.BRENDA, 42 GREAT ARLER RD, LEICESTER, LE2 6FF
W0664 WILFORD, Mrs. GLADYS, 33 WEST STREET, WELFORD, NORTHAMPTON NN6 6HU
W0665 WILLIAMSON, Mr. PAUL, 28 RIPON DRIVE, BLABY , LEICESTER
LE8 4PU
W0666 WOODLEY, Mrs. DOROTHY JOYCE, THE BUNGALOW, SOUTH CROXTON RD, BARSBY
LEICESTER LE7 4RD
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Y0042 YOUNGJOHN , Miss. SYLVIA ANN, ALLEY COTAGE, 44 BIRMINGHAM RD, COVENTRY
WARKS. CV5 9GU
April
A0270 ASHWELL, Mr. MARK STEVEN, 20 MOUNT RD, COSBY, LEICESTER, LE9 1SX
B0988 BOOTH, Mr. TREVOR, 100 YARANA DRIVE, Mt. HELEN, VICTORIA 3350, AUSTRALIA
B0989 BRADLEY, Mrs. JANET, 26 ASHBURY DRIVE, HAWLEY, CAMBERLEY, SURREY GU17 9HH
B0990 BOSTOCK, Mr. MARK, 18 BRIGHTON AVE, WIGSTON , LEICESTER, LE18 1JA
B0991 BENISTON, Mr. MARK ANDREW, 57 OWEN STREET, COALVILLE, LEICS. LE67 3DA
C0619 CROOKS , Mr. ANDREW PAUL, RAMBLERS, EDEN VALE, EAST GRINSTEAD, WEST SUSSEX
RH19 2JH
C0620 COLTMAN, Mrs. JOAN, CLODMORE HILL FARM, ARKESDEN, ESSEX , CB11 4HQ
C0621 COOPER, Mrs. PAMELA, WESTWAY, WEST ST, ROGATE, PETERSFIELD, HANTS. GU31 5HQ
D0319 DICKSON, Mr. TERRY, 29 FINESHADE AVENUE, LEICESTER, LE3 9TN
D0320 DAVIES, Mr. PAUL, 15 RIDLEY CLOSE, BLABY, LEICESTER, LE8 4AW
F0279 FURBOROUGH, Mrs. LILIAN JEAN, 24 HILL VIEW DRIVE, COSBY, LEICESTER, LE9 1UR
H0728 HOBSON, Mrs. CHRISTINE, 83 AUCHINLECK CLOSE, DRIFFIELD, EAST YORKS, YO25 9HE
H0729 HERON, Mrs. DOROTHY KAY, 1 VALIANT CLOSE, GLENFIELD, LEICESTER, LE3 8JH
H0730 HOWE, Mrs. MARION ESTHER, 101 GREENHILL STREET, CROYDON PARK,
NEW SOUTH WALES 2133 AUSTRALIA
H0731 HALL, Mrs. SARAH, 7 CHAPEL LANE, NORTH SCARLE , LINCOLN, LINCS. LN6 9EX
H0732 HALL, Mr. GARRIE, 39 ALBERT PROMENADE, LOUGHBOROUGH, LEICS. LE11 1RB
H0733 HARDING, Mrs. CAROLE, 161 PICKFORD DRIVE, KANATA, ONTARIO, K2L 2C4 CANADA
H0734 HEMSELL, Mr. DARYL, 12 MARSHALL STREET, HEANOR , DERBYSHIRE DE75 7AT
H0735 HARFIELD, Miss. SARAH, 26 CROWSHAW CLOSE, LANCING, WEST SUSSEX, BN15 9LE
L0296 LONGLEY, Mrs. MARY BERNARDINE, 78 RUTLAND ROAD, WEST BRIDGFORD,
NOTTINGHAM, NG2 5DG
L0297 LANGLEY, Mr. WILLIAM RICHARD, 33 MAIN STREET, SOUTH CROXTON, LEICES, LE7 3RJ
L0298 LOUGHNANE , Mrs. VALERIE, 87 WOOSEHILL LANE, WOKINGHAM, BERKSHIRE, RG41 2TR
M0537 MASON, Mr. DAVID, 35 GEORGE STREET, TAUNTON, SOMERSET, TA2 7DF
M0538 MUGGLETON, Mrs. SHARRON, 6 TYMECROSSE GARDENS, MARKET HARBOROUGH
LEICS. LE16 7US
P0471 PULL, Mrs. MERYL , ELM TREE HOUSE , 2 ELM TREE LANE, LEAVENHEATH, COLCHESTER
ESSEX CO6 4UL
Q0006 QUINTON, Mrs. PATRICIA, THE OLD ORCHARD,16 WOODCOTE AVE, WALLINGTON,
SURREY SM6 0QY
S0786 SWALLOW, Mr. GRAHAM PATRICK, 15 HILLCREST AVE, MARKET HARBOROUGH
LEICESTER , LE16 7AR
S0787 SHEPHERD, Mr. R.- Mrs. K., 1 SOMERFIELD WAY, L. F. E. LEICESTER. LE3 2LX
S0788 SOWARDS, Ms. LILA, 496 NORTH 1080, EAST OREM, UTAH 84097, U.S.A.
S0789 SMITH, Mrs. GILLIAN ANNE, 17 HARENE CRESCENT, L.F.E. LEICESTER . LE3 3HS
W0667 WARNER, Mr. JIM, 64 STANFELL RD, KNIGHTON , LEICESTER, LE2 3GA
W0668 WILKINS, Mrs. JUDITH ANN, 6 DALLEY CLOSE, SYSYTON, LEICESTER, LE7 2LN
W0669 WILLIAMS, Mr. BRIAN HENRY, 13 ELSALENE DRIVE, GROBY , LEICESTER, LE6 0FG
W0670 WILLIAMS, Mrs. PATRICIA, 6 BROUGHAM HALL GARDENS, BROUGHAM, PENRITH
CUMBRIA CA10 2DB
W0671 WEST, Mr. CLIVE , 11 OUSELEY LODGE, OLD WINDSOR, BERKSHIRE, SL4 2SQ
W0672 WILLSHAW, Mrs. CHRISTINE, KNOWLE TOP, REAPSMOOR, Nr. LONGNOR BUXTON
DERBYS. SK17 0LL
Members with Extra Interests (included in the members interests below)
A0232 Mrs. K ABRAHAM, 63 DEVITT WAY, BROUGHTON ASTLEY, LEICS, LE9 6NQ
D0262 Ms MARGARET DOWELL, 15 WHARFEDALE ROAD, LONG EATON, NOTTS NG10 3HG
JOO01 Mr MICHAEL JONES, 44 SANDHURST RD, WOKINGHAM, BERKSHIRE RG40 3JD
M0093 Mrs DIANNE MEAKIN, 1 FOREST ROAD, LOUGHBOROUGH, LEICS LE11 3NW
SO695 Ms JAN SMITH, 17 OLD HALL DRIVE, DERSINGHAM, NORFOLK PE31 6JT
W009 Mrs ELAINE WAITE, 49 MOORGATE AVE., BIRSTALL, LEICS LE4 3HJ
Members Obituary
Mr. W T BUTLER, 11 CHANTRY ROAD, STOURTON STOURBRIDGE, WEST MIDLANDS
Mr. KENNETH GREENHAM, 9 WILTON AVENUE, LOUGHBOROUGH, LEICS. LE11 2AS
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Leics LEI
COUSINS
1800-1900 Banbury OXF
CULLEY
ANY Leicester/Tugby LEI
DAVENPORT 1730-1750 Arnesby LEI
DAVENPORT 1770-1830 Burton Overy LEI
DAVIDSON 1869
Bury LAN
DAVIES
1890
Worthington LEI
DAVIES
<1900
Glos GLS
DAWES
1850
Leicester LEI
DEAKIN
18C
Whittington STS
DEAN
>1700
Wales WLS
DEAN
>1700
Markfield LEI
DEAN
>1700
Ibstock LEI
DEAN
>1700
Hugglescote LEI
DENTENEER 1889
Leicester LEI
DENTENEER 1889
Belgium BEL
DEXTER
ANY
Leicester LEI
DREWETT
19C
Wilts WIL
DREWITT
19C
Wilts WIL
DUFFIELD
1850-1890 Greasley NTT
DUNKLEY
1800-1900 Wilbarston NTH
DUNMORE
<1815
ANY ANY
DYPSEY
17C
Packington LEI
EBOURN
1900-1950 Leicester LEI
ELLIOTT
1800S
Liverpool LAN
ELSON
17C
Edingale STS
EVANS
1900
S.Wales WLS
June 2004
C0621
B0980
H0726
C0575
W0655
W0658
G0422
C0615
L0291
L0291
B0979
T0312
M0529
P0462
S0787
W0655
W0643
J01
J01
B0972
G0413
G0413
G0413
C0620
C0612
C0612
M0530
M0530
F0274
F0274
S0775
S0775
S0775
G0429
M0538
M0529
W0671
W0671
C0614
J0209
H0726
G0426
J01
B0966
B0966
B0966
B0966
S0784
S0784
P0466
W0664
W0664
B0987
M0538
W0670
J01
F0279
A0232
J01
H0726
73
FARMER
1860-1930 Broughton Astley
LEI
FAULKNER 1900-1950 Belgrave LEI
FAULKS
<1900
Earl Shilton LEI
FENTHAM
<1830 Hampton in Arden
WAR
FENTHAM
>1830
Birmingham WAR
FLETCHER
18C Appleby Magna LEI
FLETCHER
17C
Edingale STS
FORD
1890
Aldrington SSX
FOULDS
>1500
Leics LEI
FOWLER
ANY Rutland/Leics LEI
FOX
1880-1890 Woodford LND
FOX
1880-1890 Manor Park LND
FREEMAN
1879
Leicester LEI
FREEMAN
ANY
Leics LEI
FURMIDGE 1800-1900 Leicester/Leics
LEI
FURMIDGE 1800-1900 Leicester/Leics
LEI
GAINSFORD 1820 Holborn London LND
GANNEY
1883
Leics LEI
GANNEY
1912
Any ANY
GASK
1850
Leicester LEI
GILLIVER
18C Stretton en Field DBY
GIMSON
1800S
Cosby LEI
GLADISH
1800S
Kent KEN
GOLDER
1880
Scarboro' YKS
GOODRICH 1850-1900 Belgrave LEI
GOODWIN
1800-1890 Leicester LEI
GOSLING
ANY
Essex ESS
GR(A)EY
<1835
Derbys DBY
GR(A)EY
<1835
Notts NTT
GR(A)EY
<1835
Staffs STS
GREASLEY 1885
Leics LEI
GREEN
1800-1900 Leicester LEI
GREEN
1800-1900 Birmingham WAR
GREENWOOD <1883
Leicester LEI
GREENWOOD <1883
Wigston LEI
GREWRY?
1850
Burbage LEI
GRIFFIN
1800-1890 Leicester LEI
GRIMLEY
18C Appleby Magna LEI
GRIMLEY
18C Walton/Wolds LEI
GRIMLEY
17C
Austry STS
GRIMLEY
17C
Lichfield STS
GUNNELL
1850
Wigston LEI
GUTTERIDGE 19C
Coalville LEI
HACKETT
ANY
Rutland/Leics LEI
HACKETT
ANY
N. Ireland IRL
HALL
>1800
Harby LEI
HALL
ANY
Leicester LEI
HALL
1800S
Leicester LEI
HALLAM
1775
Mowsley LEI
HALLAM
1824
Whetstone LEI
HALLAM
1845
Leicester LEI
HAMMOND 1850-1950 Birmingham WAR
HARDBATTLE
ANY Any ANY
HARDY
1880
Nuneaton WAR
HARRA(O)LD 1700-1820 Burton Overy LEI
HARRIS
19C
Hugglescote LEI
74
C0620
H0729
H0720
S0779
S0779
J01
J01
B0972
W094
P0460
P0967
P0967
B0975
G0429
F0274
F0274
G0422
W0657
W0657
G0426
J01
H0732
M0533
B0972
S0786
B0973
G0429
W0670
W0670
W0670
W0657
P0470
P0470
M0529
M0529
S0782
B0973
J01
J01
J01
J01
C0612
W0658
P0460
P0460
B0974
H0723
H0732
M0093
M0093
M0093
P0470
W0654
C0612
W0671
W0658
LRFHS Journal No. 116
HARRIS
HARRIS
HART
HARVEY
HATTEN
HATTEN
HATTON
HAWKINS
HEAFIELD
HEAFIELD
HEALY
HERBERT
HERBERT
HERON
HEWERDINE
HEWERDINE
HILTON
HIND
HOLDER
HOLLAND
HOLLAND
HOLT
HOP(E)WELL
HOP(E)WELL
HORNE
HOUGHAM
HOWE
HOWE
HOWKINS
HUBBLE
HUNT
HUNT
HURST
HURST
ILIFFE
ILIFFE
ILLSON
JARRETT
JEFFERY
JEFFERY
JEFFERY
JENKINS
JOHNSON
JONES
JONES
JONES
JONES
JONES
JOYCE
KELLETT
KILLINGLEY
KIND
KINGSTON
KIRK
KIRK
KIRKMANS
KNAPE
KNAPE
KNAPE
1800-1890 Leicester LEI
1840
Nuneaton WAR
1800S
Bunny NTT
1871
Manchester LAN
ANY
Peckleton LEI
ANY
Rutland RUT
18C Appleby Magna LEI
>1800
Hinckley LEI
18C Appleby Magna LEI
18C Stretton en Field DBY
17C Appleby Magna LEI
>1800 Whetstone LEI
1800-1910 Coventry WAR
1900-1920 Northumberland
NBL
<1850
Leics LEI
<1850
Lincs LIN
1800S
Derby DBY
<1837
Thornley DUR
<1900
E.Yorks YKS
1890
Griffydam LEI
1890
Worthington LEI
<1850
Any ANY
<1830
Leics LEI
<1830
Notts NTT
1874-1882 Netherseal DBY
ANY
Leics LEI
1800S
Nottingham NTT
1800S
Leics LEI
1800S
Ilkeston DBY
1865
Leics LEI
>1500
Cumbria CUL
>1500
Leics LEI
ANY
Rutland/Leics LEI
ANY
N. Ireland IRL
1550-1650 Gumley LEI
1600-1750 Oadby LEI
1858
Thurlaston LEI
1800S
Kent KEN
>1873
Hunts HUN
>1873
Rutland RUT
>1873
Peterboro' CAM
ANY
Yorkshire YKS
<1700 Burton Overy LEI
18C Appleby Magna LEI
18C Ashby/Zouch LEI
17C
Packington LEI
19C
Tamworth STS
19C
Lichfield STS
>1570 Blackfordby LEI
<1837 Tudhoe Colliery DUR
>1500
Leics LEI
1841
Whetstone LEI
1841
Paulerspury NTH
1870
Northampton NTH
1850
Lincs LIN
ANY
Belton RUT
12-13C
Suffolk SFK
12-13C
Cambs CAM
12-13C
Norfolk NFK
June 2004
B0973
C0612
A0232
C0614
D0262
D0262
J01
B0974
J01
J01
J01
H0725
H0725
H0729
S0695
S0695
M0536
L0294
H0726
J0209
J0209
W0658
S0695
S0695
B0970
S0786
A0232
A0232
A0232
P0462
W094
W094
P0460
P0460
W0671
W0671
M0535
M0533
G0413
G0413
G0413
G0429
W0671
J01
J01
J01
J01
J01
J0207
L0294
W094
W0650
G0422
C0612
C0612
D0262
C0610
C0610
C0610
KNAPE
12-13C
Yorks YKS
C0610
LANGHAM
1800 Aston Flamville LEI L0291
LANGHAM
1800
Sapcote LEI
L0291
LEATHERLAND >1700 Leics LEI
C0613
LEATHERLAND >1700
Notts NTT
C0613
LEE
1800-1890 Leicester LEI
B0973
LEES
18C Appleby Magna LEI
J01
LENNARD
1824-1900 Leicester LEI
L0295
LILLEY
1800-1900 Helpston CAM
M0538
LIMBIRD
19C
Mkt Harboro' LEI
W0658
LOACH
1880
Leicester LEI
G0426
LOOKER
>1850
Leics LEI
V039
LOVETT
ANY
Barrow/Soar LEI M0529
LUDBROOK 1800-1850 Peasenhall SFK L0292
LUDBROOK 1800-1850 Sibton SFK
L0292
LUDBROOK 1800-1850 Leiston SFK
L0292
MAIDENS
>1800
Leics LEI
L0298
MANSELL
1900-1940 Newport WLS
H0729
MARRIOTT 1800S
Nottingham NTT A0232
MARRIOTT 1800S
Mansfield NTT A0232
MARSHALL 1850
Leicester LEI
B0978
MARTIN
1800-1900 Leicester LEI
F0274
MARTIN
1800-1900 Leicester LEI
F0274
MASSEY
1700-1900 Mansfield NTT A0232
MASSEY
1700-1900 Cambridge CAM A0232
MAYES
1880
Leicester LEI
P0466
MAYES
1880 Northampton NTH
P0466
MAYES
ANY Barrow/Soar LEI
M0529
McMASTER ANY
N. Ireland IRL
P0460
McNALLY
ANY
N. Ireland IRL
P0460
MEDHURST 1900
Leicester LEI
G0426
MELLOR
1855 Fenny Drayton LEI
W0669
MONK
<1850 Mkt Harboro' LEI
M0530
MONK
<1850
Gt Bowden LEI M0530
NEAL
1750-1850 Any ANY
W0658
NEEDHAM
<1765
Leics LEI
W0670
NEEDHAM
<1765
Notts NTT
W0670
NEEDHAM
<1765
Lincs LIN
W0670
NEWBERRY >1600
Nailstone LEI
B0966
NICHOLLS
ANY
Staffs STS
W0655
NICHOLLS
>1875
Kettering NTH
W0665
NICKLIN
18C
Lichfield STS
J01
NOLAN
1700-1900 Ireland IRL
A0232
NOLAN
1700-1900 Liverpool LAN A0232
NORTHERN 1850
Leicester LEI
B0978
NORTON
ANY
Earl Shilton LEI D0262
ORGIL
18C
Edgindale STS
J01
ORR
ANY
N. Ireland IRL
P0460
ORTON
1850
Leics LEI
P0462
OSBOURNE 1882
Leics LEI
H0730
OSWIN
ANY
Leicester LEI
A0267
OSWIN
<1882
Eaton LEI
M0529
OSWIN
<1882
M Mowbray LEI M0529
OVER
>1500
Leamington Hastings
WAR
O0093
PAGE
17C
Misterton LEI
J01
PARKINSON >1800
Leicester LEI
L0298
PARSONS
1860-1880 Nuneaton WAR C0612
PASSAND
>1700
Hugglescote LEI B0966
PATRICK
1700-1900 Netherseal LEI
P0468
LRFHS Journal No. 116
PATRICK
PAWLEY
PEACE
PEGG
PICKERING
PLANT
POS(S)NETT
POTTER
POTTER
POYNERS
REDMILE
RENWICK
1800-1900 Snarestone LEI
1800-1890 Leicester LEI
1860
Staffs STS
1865
Leics LEI
1700S
Leicester LEI
1800
Desford LEI
<1830
N.Leics LEI
ANY Rutland/Leics LEI
ANY
N. Ireland IRL
ANY
ANY ANY
<1730
Ryhall RUT
1800-1850 Winlaton/Durham
DUR
RIDDINGTON 1700-1900 Lubbenham LEI
RIDDINGTON 1700-1900 Mkt Harboro' LEI
RIDDINGTON 1680-1800 Gumley LEI
RIDDINGTON 1680-1800 Saddington LEI
RIDDINGTON 1680-1800 Foxton LEI
RIDDINGTON 1500-1890 Leics LEI
RIDGWAY
1823
Leics LEI
RILEY
>1850
Leics LEI
RIP(P)ON
>1800
S.W Leics LEI
ROBERTS
>1750
Wales WLS
ROBERTS
>1830
Snarestone LEI
ROBERTS
>1830
Coalville LEI
ROSE
1870-1970 Leicester LEI
ROSE
1800S
Belton RUT
SADDINGTON 1840 Swadlincote LEI
SADDINGTON 1840 Church Gresley LEI
SARSON
<1800
Quorn LEI
SARSON
<1800
Loughboro' LEI
SARSON
<1800
Leicester LEI
SAUNDERS >1750
Beachley GLS
SAUNDERS >1830
Leics LEI
SAVAGE
1750-1850 East Leake LEI
SAVAGE
1750-1850 Diseworth LEI
SCHOFIELD <1837
Rochdale LAN
SCOTTON
1850
Leics LEI
SEALY
ANY
London LND
SELLERS
1800-1904 Ashbourne DBY
SELLERS
1800-1904 Tissington DBY
SHAW
1750
Stapleton LEI
SHEPHARD 1860
Odstone LEI
SHEPHERD 1800S
Loughboro' LEI
SIMPKIN
<1800
Mkt Harboro' LEI
SKELHORNE ANY
Liddington RUT
SMITH
>1800 Harby/Stathern LEI
SMITH
1912
Any ANY
SMITH
18C Appleby Magna LEI
SMITH
18C
Lichfield STS
SMITH
18C
Whittington STS
SMITH
19C
Shirley DBY
SMITH
ANY
Leicester LEI
SMITH
1800-1950 Leicester LEI
SMITH-GEORGE 1867 Stoney Stanton LEI
STAFFORD
<1879
Rutland RUT
STAPLES
<1883
Leicester LEI
STAPLES
<1883
Wigston LEI
STEEPLES
1870
Leicester LEI
STENSON
>1750
Coalville LEI
June 2004
P0468
B0973
P0466
P0462
J0208
D0262
S0695
P0460
P0460
D0262
W0663
S0782
B0969
B0969
B0969
B0969
B0969
B0969
S0784
V039
L0298
B0966
B0966
B0966
C0620
H0732
G0422
G0422
W0651
W0651
W0651
B0966
B0966
B0979
B0979
L0294
P0462
C0615
M0536
M0536
D0262
J0209
H0732
W0651
J0142
B0974
W0657
J01
J01
J01
J01
M0535
P0470
W0663
B0976
M0529
M0529
G0426
B0966
75
STENSON
>1750
Coleorton LEI
STENSON
>1750
Glos GLS
STENSON
>1750
Derbys DBY
STENSON
>1750
Leics LEI
STEVENS
1880S
Desford LEI
STEVENS
1800S
Kent KEN
STOKES
1700-1835 Rutland RUT
SUMNER
<1837 Hartley Wespall HAM
SWALLOW
1820-1850 Emley YKS
SWANN
1835
Leicester LEI
SWARSBRICK <1863 Bolton/Rochdale LAN
SWIFT
1820
Leics LEI
TAYLOR
1900-1930 Leics LEI
THORPE
ANY
Rutland/Leics LEI
TIMSON
1850-1870 Ashley LEI
TOPHAM
>1800
Nottingham NTT
TOPLISS
1800S
Burton/Trent STS
TOPLISS
1800S
Derbys DBY
TOSELAND 1900-1950 Leicester LEI
TOVEY
1829
Bristol GLS
TOVEY
1866
Ashby LEI
TOVEY
1875
Leicewter LEI
TREVEY
>1800
Newark NTT
TWELVES
18C Ashby/Zouch LEI
UNDERWOOD 1860 Ibstock LEI
UPTON
1800-1930 Solihull WAR
VESTY 1880-1900 Wigston Magna LEI
WAITE
>1500 Lincs LIN
WALDING
1900
London LND
WALLACE
<1850
Rutland RUT
WALTERS
>1870
Camberwell LND
WALTERS
>1700 Southampton HAM
WALTON
1755
Leicester LEI
WALTON
1500S
Glooston LEI
B0966
B0966
B0966
B0966
D0262
M0533
G0413
L0294
S0786
M0535
L0294
S0784
H0729
P0460
B0989
B0974
T0312
T0312
F0279
M0093
M0093
M0093
S0787
J01
J0209
P0470
S0786
W094
H0726
W0642
W0662
W0662
J0208
J0208
WARBURTON 1871
Leicester LEI
WARD
<1900
Stroud GLS
WARD
1820
Leics LEI
WARING
ANY
Staffs STS
WARNER
1850-1950 Birmingham WAR
WARNER
1850-1950 Leicester LEI
WATERSON 1700S
Appleby LEI
WATTON
18C
Tamworth STS
WEST
1841
Enderby LEI
WEST
1849
Thurlaston LEI
WHALEY
>1800
Derbys DBY
WHITCROFT 1800S
Loughboro' LEI
WHITE
1854 Stoney Stanton LEI
WHITE
1700S
Packington LEI
WILFORD
1853
Mkt Harboro' LEI
WILLDAY
ANY
Any ANY
WILLIAMS
1724-1770 Wales WLS
WILLIAMS
1724-1770 Gosport HAM
WILLIAMS
ANY
Bisbrooke NTH
WILLIAMSON 1840
Leics LEI
WILLIAMSON >1890
Leicester LEI
WILKINSON 1881
Leeds WRY
WILKINSON 1903
Leicester LEI
WILSON
18C
Lichfield STS
WILSON
ANY
N. Ireland IRL
WINSER
ANY
London LND
WOODFORD 1600-1900 Leicester LEI
WOODFORD 1600-1900 Leics LEI
WORLEY
1820 St James London LND
WRIGHT
1850-1890 Heather LEI
WRIGHT
17C
Misterton LEI
WRIGHT
>1841
Leics LEI
WRIGHT
1854
Barwell LEI
WRIGHT
1878
Leicester LEI
M0535
T0312
S0784
W0655
P0470
P0470
J0208
J01
W0650
M0535
S0787
H0732
W0663
J0208
W0663
W0654
H0721
H0721
J0142
P0462
W0665
M0093
M0093
J01
P0460
C0615
B0976
B0976
G0422
J0207
J01
W0672
M0093
M0093
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