152 JUNE 2013

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INDEX OF CONTENTS
Regular Features
Page
Editorial
Julie Smith
The Chairman
Peter Cousins
News and Views from the Exec Committee
Executive Committee Nominations
AGM 2013
Mick Rawle’s Odds and Ends
Mick Rawle
About The Cover
Brian Johnson
News from the County Record Office
Query Box
Useful Websites
Letters to the Editor
Information Pages
News from the Groups
New Member’s Addresses and Member’s Extra Interest Addresses
Member’s Interests
Mike Hutchinson
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Your Articles
Voss, A Surname Review
Thimble Hall Road, Twyford
Police Line Up!
George Toller
Book Review
Amendments To Sarah Brown Etc.
Correction -Ye Lost Runes
Obituary - Peter D'Arcy
Never Trust The Transcription!
War Memorial Project
War In The Mediterranean
How Long Did They Live?
Did It Really Happen?
Opening Of The Leicester And Swannington Railway
Strays From Carlisle Journal
More From The Registers
Did You Know?
Are You Related To James Alfred Hartopp?
Vic Voss
John Wallace
John Wallace
Mavis Battell
Anne Paling Lawson
Pat & Malcolm Glasse
Joan Rowbottom
Steve Tunnicliff
Marion Vincent
Ian Phillpott
Pat & Malcolm Glasse
Brian Johnson
Richard Ellis
David Scott
Gavin Carr
Cis Taylor
Peter Cousins
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Society Events and Family History Updates
Forthcoming Events – Bus Trips to Kew
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ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING
& FREE OPEN DAY 2013
SUNDAY 17TH MARCH 2013 10.00AM TO 4.30PM
AT BEAUCHAMP COLLEGE, OADBY, LEICESTER
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ABOUT THE COVER
If this undated postcard of Uppingham Road was a newspaper picture of the day the
caption may well have read something like ‘More should be done to stop youths
hanging around street corners!’ (nothing new is it?), perhaps these youths are too well
dressed to be trouble-makers though and were only attracted to the location by the
presence of the photographer. The picture shows Overton Road to the left and
Uppingham Road to the right, with Sparrow Park (original name Uppingham Road
Garden) behind the trees on the right of the picture. Just off the picture to the left the
Shaftsbury cinema was built in 1914. The oncoming tram is car number 133, built in
1905 by the United Electric Car Company as an open top vehicle but given a canopy
in 1912, its destination appears to be Clarendon Park. In the distance along Overton
Road can be seen the bridge carrying the Great Northern Railway towards the resorts
of Mablethorpe, Skegness and even further afield. When we look at the present day
photograph we can see that the scene hasn’t changed very much, the majority of the
houses are still standing – now well over a hundred years old, but many are now
shops. Both the railway and bridge disappeared many years ago.
Once again, many thanks to Arthur Hubbard for the loan of one of his postcards.
Brian Johnson
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THE CHAIRMAN – PETER COUSINS
The end of another busy year for the Society, culminating in the family history fair we
ran on Saturday 29th September at Parklands Leisure Centre in Oadby, Leicester,
combined with the General Meeting of the FFHS. It was well attended, and I am sure
all visitors and exhibitors had an enjoyable day.
Our next event will be our Open Day and AGM on Sunday 17th March 2013 at
Beauchamp College in Oadby, details of which can be found in this journal.
During 2012 we again ran several successful day trips by coach including an excellent
day out to the "Who Do You Think You Are Live" at Olympia, which we shall be
repeating in February 2013.
The Committee are now looking at plans for several events for 2014, the Society's
40th anniversary year. We shall run another Fair along with a conference with guest
speakers, and other events throughout the year.
2014 is also the 40th anniversary of the founding of the FFHS, and as you
probably all realise, it is the 100th anniversary of the start of World War 1, so to
celebrate both of the societies anniversaries and to commemorate WW1 we are
planning to run a joint trip with the FFHS to the WW1 areas of France and
Belgium, including taking part in the wreath laying ceremony at the Menin Gate .
Look out for details in the journal and on the website.
Thanks to all who signed our on-line petition to try to prevent any more cuts at the
Record Office. I was somewhat surprised to receive some adverse comments to the
campaign, stating that we should have to put up with these cuts which are not only in
the archive and museum services but are across the board in all public services. This
point is very true, but to restate our aims, the museum services have been subject to
40% cuts in Leicestershire, and what we are trying to do is to prevent any further cuts
in access to what are after all public records.
I hope you all have had a good year finding those elusive ancestors, and I wish you all
continued success in 2013.
Peter Cousins, Chairman
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EDITORIAL – JULIE SMITH
Sorry about my absence in the last issue. I was suddenly struck down with a detached
retina in my right eye. I had to have an emergency operation and spend a month with
my head face down. All this happened just before I was due to work on issue 149 of
the Journal. I had to hurriedly email all my submissions to Peter Cousins. So I am
grateful to Peter and his wife, Ann, for putting the last issue together at the very last
minute.
I managed to spend a small amount of time at the Family History Fair at Parklands, so
it was good to have a chat to some of you who were there. I took some time to browse
through various stalls and was impressed with what was on offer.
Thanks for all of you who have contributed to this issue, as ever. I am running a bit
low on articles at the moment so if you have anything you feel fellow members would
be interested in, please send it in, it will be greatly appreciated.
John Chapman of Birstall sent me a list of amusing snippets from a book by D.J.
Steel-Phillimore, some of which I have used in this issue as fillers. So a big thank you
to John and if anyone has anything similar, I would be grateful if you could pass them
onto me.
I hope you enjoy this issue and you find some of it helpful in your pursuit of lost
ancestors.
Julie Smith
GOOD NEWS!
BY THE TIME YOU RECEIVE THIS JOURNAL THE GILROES
CEMETERY BURIALS INDEX CD SHOULD BE READY FOR
SALE. THE INDEX COVERS BURIALS FROM THE OPENING
IN 1902 UNTIL 1950, WITH 80,000+ BURIALS.
PRICE £15 PLUS POSTAGE.
AVAILABLE BY POST (SEE CENTRE PAGES) OR FROM
OUR ONLINE SALES AT www.lrfhs.org.uk/onlinecdsales.htm
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NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE EXECUTIVE
COMMITTEE
L.R.F.H.S. RESEARCH CENTRE
RECENT DONATIONS.
THANK YOU TO THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE.
Helen Powell, Market Bosworth Historical Society, Steve Harris, for the Estate of
the late Christopher Braddock. Liz Lockwood Jones, The Wood family, Michael
Perry, Diana Birks, Angela Smith & Neil Bertram.
BOOKS
The History & Architecture of the Turkey Café. By Jean Farquhar & John Skinner.
Stilton Cheese a History. By Trevor Hickman.
Bosworth, (Market Bosworth) 2000 AD. By M. Bosworth Historical Society.
Portrait of Beaumanor. By Caroline Wessel.
Brief history of Beaumanor Hall & Park. By Pamela Drinkall.
A Short History of Great Dalby. By Angela Smith.
UK Timeline for Family Historians. By Angela Smith.
A Prospect of Oadby. By Helen Boynton.
Before my time, A History of The Little Theatre.
Leicester At work. By David R. Burton.
Leicestershire Photographic Memories from Around Leicestershire. Francis Frith.
The Quality of Leicester.
Leicester’s Trams. By George Creese.
Memory Lane Leicester.
Past & Present Leicestershire & Rutland. By David R Burton.
More Memories of Leicester.
Transport Memories of Leicester.
A Century of Leicester. By Jesse & Robin Jenkins.
Leicester at War. By Robin Jenkins.
Directory of Market Harborough 1954.
Through six Decades 1868-1925 The story of Co-operation in Longeaton and District.
Co-op Wholesale Society. By Gertrude R Lane and Robert Bully.
Birstall St. James In and outside the Parish Church. Includes an index.
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The Royal Tiger’s, A short history.
The Tiger’s A short History.
A Diary of the Siege of Ladysmith. By Brian Faigin.
Loughborough a History and Celebration. By David Jones.
Where Leicester has worshipped. By Andrew Moore. Worth a read, contains all the
places of worship for all denominations, and useful maps of their locations.
FICHE.
Northampton.
Shropshire.
Lancashire.
Kislingbury
Parish Registers 1772-1812.
Cruckton
Parish Registers.
Harewood
Moel Brace
Westbury
Great Plane Christchurch. Grave yard Plan.
Thank you to all who donated these items.
Cis Taylor T154
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RESEARCH CENTRE HOLIDAY OPENING TIMES
THE CENTRE WILL CLOSE ON FRIDAY 21ST DECEMBER
2012 AT 4PM AND OPEN AGAIN ON THE 3RD JANUARY
2013 AT 10AM.
I hope every one has a good holiday and hope to see you all next year.
Joan Silvey
Centre Manager
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MEMBERS INTERESTS AND STRAYS
We are now well into the renewals for 2013, although as usual there are still a few
from 2012, a big thank you to those who have already renewed. The Family History
Fair in September resulted in a large number of new members and some lapsed
members re-joining, this is reflected in the number of interests and addresses in this
journal.
Geoff Powell
Those of you who attended Loughborough meetings will be saddened to hear that
Geoff passed away in October. He was an enthusiastic member of the society, and for
some time a respected member of the Loughborough committee, he will be sadly
missed He was always ready with advice on improving the way we ran the
Loughborough group.
E Mail Addresses
Sorry to go on about this, but after another four complaints of supplied addresses
being invalid, could you please make sure that when you change e mail address, that
you inform the society.
I have also had one case where I have tried to reply to a member’s request, only to
have the message bounce, please make sure that you can receive messages from the
society via LRFHSservice@aol.com which is the normal e mail address for supplying
contact details.
Military Deaths
As you may know overseas military deaths are recorded in a separate register to the
main GRO system. The index can be found on “Find my past “, but death which
occurred within the UK are if fact to be found in the main indexes, which can be
searched either on the pay for view sites or on FreeBMD. The only problem is
determining the location.
On FreeBMD the registration district is highlighted in blue, this is in fact a link to the
GenUKI site, the page for the district also has a link which if clicked on goes to a list
of all parishes in that particular registration district. This was particularly helpful
recently in checking the death of a Canadian Soldier buried at Shorncliffe Camp in
Kent. The registration district is given as Elham, which on the face of it could be
anywhere, however by following the links you find that this district includes
Folkestone, which is the location of the camp.
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Sometimes though burials can be a long way from the place where the death took
place, certainly with the additional information given by his WW1 service records it
was considerably easier to find that my Thomas Hutchinson who died of Spanish Flu
on 5 November 1918 and who is buried in Nottingham actually died at a hospital on
Salisbury Plain.
Probate Records
Ancestry have now extended the images of the probate register to 1966, so we can
now search for more recent members of the family, it can also be used to discount
deaths that might seem correct when looking solely at the GRO deaths indexes. Is the
Arthur James Hutchinson who died in Kent in 1922 actually a brother of my
grandfather. Fortunately it states that his estate is left to an Alice Emily Hutchinson,
checking the census records for 1911 shows it to be a totally unrelated family.
No Hiding place
From the 1851 census for Hallaton, Leicestershire.
In the household of Robert Lount in Flag Lane
John Babcock age 2, relationship – illegitimate – occupation given as Sisters son born
Whetstone.
Showman and Fairground Records
I was asked at the Family History Fair, where records of circuses and fairgrounds
could be found, I knew they were in a Yorkshire University but not which one. The
answer is the University of Sheffield holds the National Fairground Archives.
Access to Archives describes this as:The National Fairground Archive (NFA) was inaugurated at the University of
Sheffield Library in 1994, with the support of the Showmen's Guild of Great Britain
and the Fairground Association of Great Britain. It has grown out of research material
collected by Vanessa Toulmin for her Doctor of Philosophy thesis "Fun without
vulgarity: community, women and language in Showland Society" (1997), and forms
a large collection of photographic, printed, manuscript and audiovisual material
covering all aspects of the culture of travelling show people, their organisation as a
community, their social history and everyday life; and the artefacts and machinery of
fairgrounds. In addition the National Fairground Archive holds associated material in
the field of popular performance culture, such as theatre, circus and early film.
The photographic images have formed the basis for a digitisation project, initially
funded by the Heritage Lottery Fund for the initial 30,000 images, and subsequently,
as the collection has grown, continued with funding by the Pilgrim Trust, which is
producing an image-related descriptive database for the complete photographic
collection.
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Contents:
The National Fairground Archive collections are continuing to grow, primarily by
donations from within the fairground community, and presently include 80,000
images in the photographic collection, in addition to audio and video material,
journals and nearly 3,000 monographs. The collection also includes a collection of
fairground ephemera (programmes, handbills, posters, charters and proclamations,
plans and drawings).
Mike Hutchinson
NEWS FROM THE SECRETARY
JOAN ROWBOTTOM
The fair in September was great – I was on the Help Desk and didn’t seem to stop
talking all day! (not unusual some may say) - thank you so much to Peter Cousins
without all his hours of organisation – these events would not take place. Do our
members realise how much time he commits to the Society – I think some forget
how much time our volunteers give.
My thanks go to Graham Banbury as MELTON MOWBRAY Marriage index has all
been typed and is being checked as we speak. MARKET HARBOROUGH RD
Marriage Index needs a trip to Northampton to fill in some gaps.
A letter arrived from Eileen Robson in Newark (thank you) enclosing 3 entries of
burials for Militia men from Leicester, which she found in Plymouth whilst searching
for an ancestor in St Andrew Plymouth
20th November 1779 John MANSFIELD, soldier of the Leicester Militia
1st December 1779 William CLARK, soldier of the Leicester Militia
7th December 1779 William HARTOP, soldier of the Leicester Militia
The History of King’s Lock Cottage has even more updates from people using the tea
rooms! With their help I am now researching the names on the Aylestone (St Andrew)
War Memorial in time for 2014 – this will be my project for the winter whilst the tea
rooms are closed, although I may have to revisit the Black Horse & The Union to
continue their histories!! So if you have any ancestors from AYLESTONE and are
looking for anyone – let me know.
Joan Rowbottom
joanrowbottom@hotmail.com
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PROJECTS CO-ORDINATOR – GAVIN CARR
It was nice to see lots of people at the Fair at Parklands in September, and to catch up
with some of the project volunteers. The Gilroes Burials CD will be out this month,
covering from the opening in 1902 to the end of 1950. There are over 80,000 burials
during this period, giving details of age, address and grave number etc.
Work still continues on the transcription from 1950 onwards, and also on Saffron Hill
Burials. I have about five parishes to get round to in the Melton area before Joan can
complete her Index for that District and will try to do it before the year end. I have
also been busy getting round some of the Non-Conformist churches in the city that
have not lodged their completed Marriage Registers at the Record Office in Wigston
to get the details for the Index from 1912.
I hope everyone has a good Christmas and look forward to the New Year.
Gavin Carr
projects @lrfhs.org.uk gb_carr@hotmail.co.uk
THE MEMBERSHIP SECRETARY
ANGELA SLATER
The Open Day in September went well – more than 20 people decided to join the
society on the day.
Membership renewals are coming in at a steady pace. Nearly 350 of you have
renewed as I write this report. If you have not already renewed, a renewal form can be
found in the centre of the Journal. Please try and renew on time so that there are less
renewal letters to be sent out in the spring.
If you decide that you do not want to continue to be a member, it would be helpful if
you could let me know, either by post or by email, so that fewer reminder letters have
to be sent out. If you need acknowledgement of this, please enclose SAE, and if you
pay your subscription by standing order, then don’t forget to cancel this with your
bank before January 1st 2013. Also, please do NOT pay twice. Last year there were
several members who paid when they received the September Journal, and then paid
again when they received the December Journal. This results in more work and cost
as cheques have to be returned. Please check before you pay.
Angela Slater
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EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
NOMINATIONS 2013-2014
Applications are invited for Committee members for the year 2013-2014. These
applications will be the subject of a vote at the Annual General Meeting on Sunday
17th March 2013 at the Beauchamp College, Oadby, Leicester.
The positions on the Committee are:
 Chairman
 Vice-Chairman
 Secretary
 Treasurer
 Journal Editor
 Project Co-ordinator
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Research Centre Manager
Membership Secretary
Publicity Officer
1 Liaison person for each of
The Society Groups
Anyone voted on to the Committee becomes a Trustee of the Society as required by
the Charities Commission. If you wish to submit an application to become a
Committee member, or wish to nominate someone (with their knowledge and
approval), you can apply for a nomination form by post from the current Secretary:
Mrs. Joan Rowbottom, 37 Cyril Street, Leicester LE3 2FF or by e-mail at
secretary@lrfhs.org.uk. You can also download a nomination form from
www.lrfhs.org.uk/nominations.html
Please ensure all applications are sent to the Secretary, Mrs. Joan Rowbottom to
arrive 28 days before the AGM, i.e. 17th February 2013. Any nominations received
after this date cannot be accepted.
100TH ANNIVERSARY
OF THE START OF WORLD WAR 1
2014 sees the 40th anniversary of the LRFHS and also the 40th
anniversary of the Federation Of Family History Societies. This
coincides with the 100th anniversary of the start of World War 1 in
1914, and we are planning a joint trip to France and Belgium to
commemorate the war, including taking part in the wreath laying
ceremony at the Menin Gate. Watch out for details in the journal and on
the website.
To put yourself on a mailing list for details - e-mail your name to:
chairman@lrfhs.org.uk
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ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING
& FREE OPEN DAY 2013
SUNDAY 17TH MARCH 2013
10.00AM TO 4.30PM
AT BEAUCHAMP COLLEGE, OADBY,
LEICESTER
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THE AGM WILL TAKE PLACE AT 11.30AM
FOLLOWED BY TWO GUEST SPEAKERS:
1.30pm To 2.30pm
MARRIAGE LAWS, RECORDS & CUSTOMS
WAS YOUR ANCESTOR REALLY MARRIED?
Dr. Colin Chapman
3pm To 4pm
TO BE ANNOUNCED
WE HAVE INVITED SOME LOCAL HISTORY AND
HERITAGE GROUPS TO JOIN US FOR THE DAY
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HELP DESK…..LET THE EXPERTS HELP YOU
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MEMBERSHIP, MEMBERS INTERESTS, BOOKSTALLS
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CD ROMS, MAPS & GUIDES ON SALE
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TEA, COFFEE AND SANDWICHES AVAILABLE
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DETAILS, DIRECTIONS & MAP AVAILABLE AT
www.lrfhs.org.uk/agm2013.html
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VOSS - A SURNAME REVIEW
The origin of a Surname is always intriguing and I have been interested in the
series of articles “How Did They Spell Their Name?” by Pat & Malcolm
Glasse. I cannot dispel nor verify that the local name of VOSS, whose ancestors
can be traced back to the early 1600’s in the vicinity of Oadby, had its original
spelling of FOSS. However, this cannot be said of all the Vosses living in
Leicestershire in the 1800’s. My research has shown that there are two distinct
and separate “clans” of Voss. The one, as mentioned above appearing to
emanate from Oadby, and the other are my ancestral “clan” who strayed over
from nearby Northamptonshire and Warwickshire, in the 1800’s.
My great grandfather, William Henry Voss was born in Lutterworth in 1852,
the only son and first of five children of Edward and Ellen Voss (whose
gravestones can be seen in Lutterworth Churchyard). Edward, born in 1816 in
Welford, Northants was the son of my 3 x great grandfather John Vaus (Voss)
and Elizabeth Peabody. Incidentally, Edward moved to Lutterworth to become
“Boots” in the “Denbigh Arms Coaching House” in about 1850, marrying Ellen
Goode and eventually became the Proprietor before becoming the Publican of
the “Fox Inn” a hundred or so yards away until the 1870’s. John, the son of
Samuel Vaus (Vause) and Ann Wright and born in 1776 in Thornby, Northants,
may have had his surname spelled as VAUS but this changed very quickly to
VOSS. As we go back in time we find the surname being spelled VAUSE and
in the 1500’s and early 1600’s as VAWES, residing in Crick in
Northamptonshire on the border of Warwickshire, and not far from the border
with Leicestershire, where the family stayed for around 200 years.
Of the vast family of Vawes, Vause, Voss, it appears that those living near the
Leicestershire border changed their spelling to VOSS, whilst those families
living further within Northamptonshire or who had moved to Yorkshire or
Warwickshire retained their spelling of VAUSE. We do find the odd occasion
when the spelling was VAUX. However, I can find no connection to the VAUX
family living at Great Harrowden Hall, whom I suspect were descendants from
the Norman Conquest.
Some of our ancestors emigrated to America, where we find families of VOSS
and also VAUSE.
My direct line can be traced back to my 14 x great grandfather, William
VAWES in the 1550’s. Also, my Y-chromosome DNA has been analysed by
two different firms and coming up with a very similar result. It indicates that
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my Haplogroup is I, which arose in Scandinavia about 24,000 years ago, and is
nick-named the “Viking Gene”. Thus I can conclude that the name of VOSS
from my ancestral family never was FOSS - but then we were only
“incomers” to Leicestershire and not belonging to the VOSS families already
living there. Incidentally, I live in Margate, Kent. Anyone interested in “my”
Voss family “clan” should contact:
Vic Voss (Member VO030) e-mail: vicvoss@aol.com
THIMBLE HALL ROAD, TWYFORD
An episode well worth retelling was told to me by my father who had been told
the story by both his father and Grandfather (Harry Hollier of Twyford), it must
have taken place in the 1902-1908 period when Sir Frederick Fowke of
Lowesby Hall objected to the famous, one-up-one-down cottage situated on the
B6047 about ½ mile south of Twyford being known as Thimble Hall, and he
had a name board “Porters Lodge” fixed between the only upstairs and
downstairs windows. This annoyed the local people, none less my Greatgrandfather, as their entrance to Streethill Farm was nearby.
It so happened that my Great-grandmother, Polly Hollier, took in paying guests
at the farmhouse during summer months, and one visitor, a painter and sign
writer by trade, volunteered on hearing the story, to supply a name board
“Thimble Hall” so that it could be screwed on top of the existing board.
However the job of fixing it was not so easy! My Grandfather, Samuel
Wallace, worked for my Great-grandfather at that time, and they fixed the new
board. My Grandfather had hid a ladder near by, then they accomplished the
task at night with the occupants in bed but apparently they heard voices once
and had to keep silent for a period before completing the job. (The things our
ancestors got up to!)
It is said that both boards were removed within a few days presumably on
instruction of the squire of Lowesby Hall. For the rest of its life the decorative
cottage, remained Thimble Hall (but without a name board!). Sadly, I believe
the cottage has been demolished for some years but the road is still known
locally and on Ordnance Survey and Google maps as “Thimble Hall Road”. I
wonder if anyone has any pictures of the cottage before its demolition. I would
love to see one.
John Wallace
ericajohn@tiscali.co.uk
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POLICE LINE-UP!
The most unusual photograph above must have been taken outside a
Leicestershire police station sometime in the early 1950s. The man third from
the left is Leonard Wallace, he was born 7th December 1916 at Brentingby, and
died 11th June 2002. He was my uncle. He joined Leicestershire Constabulary
in December 1937, retiring as Detective Inspector in 1968. His police service
for Leicestershire was only interrupted by his call up to the army in August
1942, and he landed on “D” day, subsequently passing through France, the
Netherlands, Belgium and Germany. Does anyone know which Police Station
is in the background and perhaps any of the other officers? He served in
Loughborough, Coalville and Blaby, but it could be others. I would love to
know.
John Wallace
ericajohn@tiscali.co.uk
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GEORGE TOLLER
George Toller was born c1816 at Kettering, Northamptonshire. In the
December quarter of 1841 he married Jane Eliza Gibbon at Coventry,
Warwickshire, and by 1851 they were living at 104 New Walk, Leicester, with
their son George who was born c1843 in Leicester.
They lived all their married life at 104 New Walk, Leicester. George was a
solicitor, becoming an Attorney and Solicitor by the 1871 census. George died
on 15th October 1885 at Eastbourne, Sussex. Probate was granted on 23rd
November 1885 in Leicester;
“The Will of George Toller late of
Leicester........... was proved at Leicester by George Toller of 2 Wickliffe Street,
Leicester, Solicitor, the son one of the executors....”
In the 1891 census Jane Eliza and son George, who is single, are still living at
104 New Walk, Leicester. Jane Toller died on 13 May 1891 at Leicester.
George retired to Branksome, Dorset where he is on the 1901 and 1911 census,
living at Charnwood, 1 Tower Road, Bournemouth. He died on 28th February
1930 aged 87. The house, Charnwood has now been converted into flats.
I assume that the letter postmarked 28 September 1881 and sent to George
Toller Esq., Wickliffe Street, Leicester, is from one of his clients, and that
Wickliffe Street was his office and business address.
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It is hard to decipher the name of the sender, but they were staying at the
Langham Hotel, London. The writer says “Twice I wrote to you. This evening
I have received a letter from Mr Gribble enclosing a letter from the Professor
dated the 25th inst: saying he had just heard from the Minister declaring he
must have more proofs that there are no other heirs, also that he will publish in
the English papers – if he carries out this threat, we should have no end of
trouble in fact I may look as the money is lost. The will I fear must be proved.
I am terribly upset by this last letter from Mr Gribble. What is to be done?
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I cannot at all understand all this contradiction, saying the thing to the niece
then saying the contrary to me, it appears most extraordinary behaviour. Yours
truly”
“PS Does it not appear to you as if there was some unknown person in the
background advising the minister to act as he is acting?”
Mavis Battell
BOOK REVIEW
ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH THROUGH TIME
By Stephen Butt
This ancient market town on the borders of Leicestershire and Derbyshire has
always been well placed in the centre of a web of roads leading to most of the
principal towns and cities in the Midlands. It is also the furthest town from the
sea anywhere in the country. Ashby de la Zouch castle was of importance from
the 15th to the 17th centuries. In the 19th century the town became a spa town
and before the growth of Coalville it was the chief town in north-west
Leicestershire.
In the 19th century its main industries were ribbon manufacture, coal mining
and brick making. The town was served by Ashby Canal from 1804 and the
Leicester to Burton upon Trent Line of the Midland Railway from 1845. Join
Stephen Butt on this fascinating visual journey through time, which will
surprise and delight anyone who knows and loves the area.
THE AUTHOR
After a career in production and management with the BBC, Stephen is now a
full-time writer, researcher and photographer. He has six books in print which
combine a practical interest in photography with an academic background in
local history. He holds degrees in Psychology and English Local History.
Stephen is the Honorary Secretary of the Leicestershire Archaeological and
Historical Society, and edits their newsletter. He is also clerk to his local parish
council. He lives in Leicestershire.
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AMENDMENTS TO ARTICLE PUBLISHED IN
L&RFHS JOURNAL, SEPT 2012, ENTITLED
“SARAH BROWN ...ETC”
Mary PALING, Joseph SARGENT and George HARRIS
In the above article I included a paragraph on Mary PALING, the illegitimate
daughter of the subject of the article, Sarah PALING (nee BROWN). Mary
was christened in St Catherine’s church at Houghton on the Hill on 4 April
1854. She married Joseph SARGENT in Leicester in 1873. He came from
Thorney which is about 7 miles NE of Peterborough in Cambridgeshire. In the
article I said that Joseph died in 1888 in Billesdon. This was not correct. The
Joseph SARGENT who died in 1888 in Billesdon District was aged 54; our
Joseph was only 36.
Joseph & Mary must have split up because on 1891 Census our Joseph is
enumerated as living with a Mary Emma MOORE and his son by Mary
PALING, Matthew, in Glenfield, Leicester. He is still living with Mary
MOORE in Anstey in 1901. Mary is enumerated with step-father, Joseph
PERKINS, on 1901 Census. They are living in Kate Street, Leicester. Mary is
described as a W (widow) and her surname is given as HARRIS but George
HARRIS is not in the household. It is definitely Mary as she is Head of
household and Joseph is described as her step-father both born in Houghton on
the Hill. Mary could have married a Mr HARRIS between 1891 and 1901. She
could also have lived with a Mr HARRIS and been known as Mary HARRIS.
Mr HARRIS would then have “disappeared” before 1901. I can’t find a
marriage as yet. There is a faint possibility that her real father was a Mr.
HARRIS and Mary chose to use his name. Obviously this is another of the
puzzles that an interest in family history. You solve one puzzle but are then
presented with another!
I am fairly certain that the George HARRIS living with his wife Mary in
Belgrave in 1911 are not my relatives. I have traced this George & Mary
through the Censuses and believe that they are a different family. This means
that my Mary probably did not live with a George HARRIS in or out of
wedlock. After 1901 the trail goes cold and I need to do some more research as
I cannot find Mary or Joseph on 1911 Census for definite. Nor can I find a
Death for either of them.
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On 1911 Census Mathew SARGENT, Mary’s son, and his wife, Jemima, are
living in Glenfield with their 2 children and the wife’s sister, Ada RUSHIN.
I tender my sincere apologies for this mistake. I do hope that no one has been
led on a wild goose chase because of my error. I must remember in future to
double and treble check my information before publishing it.
Anne Paling Lawson
LRFHS JOURNAL-SEPT 2012
CORRECTION
Ye Lost Runes
In the last edition of the Journal, the Runes got lost from page
32, apologies for this
These are , the letter Thorn
itself (and its neighbours)
Runic
Roman
A R
F
U TH
K
Pat & Malcolm Glasse
MINISTERS
In the 16th Century ministers had a great deal of influence of names. While
Thomas Heley was minister of Warbleton (1585-9) names registered included
Sorry For Sin and No Merit.
Edmund Snape curate of St. Peter’s, Northampton, in 1590, refused to Christen
a child Richard (after his grandfather) because it wasn’t a scriptural name.
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OBITUARY
RD
23
PETER SAMUEL D’ARCY
JULY 1945 – 27TH AUGUST 2012
Those of you who come to the Research Centre on a Saturday morning will
remember Peter for his kindness & patience, as a regular volunteer. He was a
gentleman, in the true sense of the word.
One regular member remembered him for his quiet sense of humour, “he was
always smiling nothing was too much trouble”.
Another long time member – unused to computers – had a wonderful family
tree, all hand written, meticulously researched over many years – Peter did
nothing more than take home all the information – put it onto Family Tree
Maker and printed it into a book – this must have taken him hours.
A member of the society for many years – I have happy memories of Saturday
mornings, when we were at Freeschool Lane – in the days when we could drive
into town – Peter would come to do duty whilst his wife Elizabeth would go
shopping – We send our love and thoughts to her and the family – Thank you
Peter for all your knowledge & help - We will miss you.
Joan Rowbottom
BAPTISMS IN LEICESTER – COMBINED
INDEXES 1892-1921
This third combined index consists of baptisms in all the Leicester Anglican
Churches between the above dates (some might be children or adults rather
than new born babies). Please check the original records to confirm our index
details and any other information given at the time of the baptism. There are
more than 91,000 entries and included are the churches affected by the town
boundary changes at the beginning of 1892. (see CD87 for combined years
1558-1837 and CD103 for combined years 1837-1891).
Sue Shore
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MARRIAGES
LEICESTER BOROUGH 1558-1753
The following ancient churches contain the marriages of your ancestors if they
took place in Leicester before 1754.
1558 to end of 1753 - St Martin’s
1560 to end of 1753 - St Nicholas
1570 to end of 1753 - All Saints
1600 to end of 1753 - St Mary de Castro
1605 to end of 1753 - St Margaret’s
Containing over 10,600 marriages, the index contains brides/grooms names and
indicates the date, month, year and church of their marriage. Also if the
register indicates a marriage licence was issued this is indicated by an ‘L’. We
suggest you consult the original record for any further details given at the time
of the marriage.
Sue Shore
NEVER TRUST THE TRANSCRIPTION!
While ferreting about via Ancestry in Mrs T.'s Rhodes forebears, I looked at the
1911 Census entry for her great grandfather, William Rhodes (1838-1919, born
Tathwell, Lincolnshire) and his wife Jane who were then living at 28,
Woodland Road, Leicester. William had been a carpenter and joiner all his life
but was now in his 70s.
Imagine my bemusement to find the following transcription:
"Occupation: Branins Auperson & Paygram Amslg Sod Of Carpenter & Joieber
Old Age Penmoner Market Gar Deser Out Pat"
I was particularly amused by the "sod of carpenter": having dabbled in a bit of
woodwork on occasion myself, I think this is a sentiment that Mrs T. might
echo. The concept of a "penmoner" also appealed (Why, oh why, oh why?).
Needless to say I looked at the original and discovered this:
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"Drawing Superand Pay from Amalgd Socy Of Carpenters & Joiners Old Age
Pensioner Market Gardener Own Act"
[the terminal "d" of superand = superannuated and amalgd = amalgamated
and "y" of socy = society are written as superscript]
See the Society of Carpenters and Joiners a trade union founded in the 1860s.
Steve Tunnicliff T013
WAR MEMORIAL PROJECT -CAN YOU HELP?
Marion Vincent has been involved in the recent War Memorial Project in
Rothley. She has found details of most of those on our village memorials.
However there are two that remain a mystery. They served in the 1914-18 war
and are William Harrison and James Ross. Their names appear on both the
Cross Green Memorial and also on the Parish Church Roll of Honour.
If you have any knowledge of either of these, please contact Marion on 0116
2375156 or vincentmbe82@yahoo.co.uk
WAR IN THE MEDITERRANEAN
My father never spoke very much about WWII. Like so many others perhaps
the memories were too painful to bring back to the surface. I certainly know
that, as a small boy, I was fascinated to learn more and was overjoyed when he
offered his medals for me to keep. I learned from my mother some years later
that his view was that they were “bits of tin” and worth nothing. She believed
that this was a result of his experiences of losing close friends and colleagues
during the war. It was many years later, after his death, when I was researching
my family history that something of the truth about what my father had
experienced became apparent. By obtaining a copy of his Service Record and
doing some exploration in both libraries and online I managed to put together a
more detailed picture of his wartime experiences, specifically those gained
while serving on what I understand was his favoured ship HMS Auckland.
From this work both my mother and I gained a better understanding of what he
and so many others had gone through.
Cyril Claude PHILLPOTT enlisted with the Royal Navy on 9 July 1936 for a
12-year term. He served in a number of vessels and shore establishments until
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he first joined the crew of HMS Auckland on 15 November 1938. The
Auckland was an Egret-class sloop and, with the threat of war, was slated to
join the New Zealand navy. My father was part of the crew when she sailed
around South Africa bound for New Zealand. When war broke out on 3
September 1939 they were in Simonstown. The ship was recalled and sailed
back to Portsmouth for a refit (this voyage lasted from 17-30 November). This
time in South Africa was one of the periods that my father clearly enjoyed and
did speak of often.
The Auckland then moved to Rosyth from where my father left her for a short
time and served at HMS Victory, a shore station/barracks at Portsmouth. He
soon rejoined the ship and HMS Auckland sailed to Devonport, arriving 15
May 1940, then moved on to arrive in Gibraltar on 19 May. From there she
went on to Alexandria before moving on to Aden by 31 May 1940. Here the
ship provided convoy escort cover until she went to Bombay where she
underwent a refit from 18 June to 12 July 1940.
In August 1940 my father was involved in the evacuation of the town of
Berbera in what was then British Somaliland. While other vessels went in to
evacuate shore personnel HMS Auckland (among others) shelled Italian forces
in the area to buy time to complete the evacuation. I have a small photograph
taken from the masthead of HMS Auckland showing clouds of dust rising on
shore. I suspect this may have been taken at this time. My father described
seeing “tyres, wheels and camels all in the air”. War at a distance may not have
seemed so bad. That would change before too long.
Later that month through to the start of 1941 HMS Auckland worked in the
Aden Force providing escort cover. From January to February 1941 the ship
sailed again to Bombay for repair and refit. According to my mother it must
have been either at this point or the previous visit to Bombay that my father
made friends with an Indian restaurant owner named George who apparently
taught him the secret of how to make a good Indian curry. Certainly my father’s
curries were a much-loved feature at home during my childhood so he must
have learned well!
HMS Auckland kept my father on escort duties through early 1941 before she
sailed in April-May to provide cover for the Malta convoys. Ineffective air
attack by Italian aircraft in his early Mediterranean voyage was also one of the
few wartime things father would speak about. He loosely described a number of
occasions when he said they saw Italian aircraft so high up they could barely
make them out and then watched as the bomb loads exploded harmlessly in the
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sea some distance away. The aircraft then quickly disappeared, back to base.
Unfortunately he and his shipmates were to discover that the German Luftwaffe
was rather a different prospect.
In May 1941 HMS Auckland was based in Alexandria and undertook escort
duties for the Tobruk convoys. On 24 June 1941 an event that I believe was to
shape him as a person occurred.
HMS Auckland, under the command of M.S. THOMAS, DSO, RN sailed from
Alexandria with the Australian sloop HMAS Parramatta to escort the oiler
Pass of Balmaha, carrying 750 tons of aviation fuel, to Tobruk. At 17:36 hrs,
when about 20 nautical miles east of Tobruk, the convoy was attacked by
several Italian bombers. Perhaps the crew were thinking that this would be
another relatively ineffective Italian attack. However on this afternoon in 1941
things were going to be very different. Quickly following the Italian attack a
German presence of Ju88 bombers and the infamous Ju87 Stuka dive-bombers
materialised, led by Major Walter Ennecerus. There were now a total of 48
dive-bombers in 3 groups. The first wave of two formations of German planes
dived from the sun and concentrated on HMS Auckland, mistaking her for a
light cruiser. The Italian planes simultaneously attacked the oiler.
HMS Auckland sustained an immediate hit on the stern and lost her steering.
Emerging from a cloud of smoke and out of control she was heading for the
Parramatta who had to take avoiding action. As the Auckland passed she was
seen to be wrecked behind the mainmast with no stern visible; she was on fire
aft but the forward turrets were still firing. I wonder if my father was still in
action here. She continued to make way at 10 knots until three more bombs hit
her, causing her to go dead in the water with a major list to port. The crew
began to abandon ship – but the agony was not over. Another attack started at
18:29 hrs. During this attack a huge internal explosion occurred inside HMS
Auckland, throwing the ship upwards. Her back was broken, there was a large
opening down her starboard side and she quickly sank. Commander THOMAS
was thrown off the bridge and landed 50 yards away in the sea. I have no idea
what was happening to my father during this period but of the crew of 200, up
to 85 were dead or wounded by this time.
The survivors were now scattered in the sea. HMAS Parramatta closed in
dropping whalers and skiffs, life belts and floats to attempt to rescue the
Auckland survivors, who were being machine gunned in the water by the
attacking aircraft. One hundred and sixty two survivors were picked up,
including Cdr THOMAS, Lt D.G.D. HALL-WRIGHT, Lt A.P. CULMER, Lt
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J.F. HOUSE, Surgeon Lt C.J. ROBARTS, T/A/Sub Lt P. WHITEHEAD
RNVR and – of course – my father. She then proceeded to Alexandria, arriving
on the 25th.
The Pass of Balmaha was damaged by near misses but managed to reach
Tobruk with its precious cargo, escorted by the newly arrived Destroyers
Waterhen and Vendetta. The tanker was unloaded on the 28th and escorted
from Tobruk by sloop Parramatta and anti-submarine whaler Southern Maid.
My father emerged from this carnage with “only” a broken ankle. However he
had spent many hours afloat in the sea and this caused severe pneumonia to
develop. According to my mother he spent a long period in hospital in Gibraltar
recovering from this illness. Although, like so many of his generation, he
smoked heavily we firmly believe that the long-term effects of what he had
endured were active in leading to his early death in 1982 aged 68.
I have since discovered details of the casualties resulting from the events of 24
June 1941. LT (E) C.L. MEADLEY, thirty two ratings and the NAAFI
manager were killed on the sloop. Three ratings died of wounds. Surgeon Lt
C.J. ROBARTS and seven ratings were wounded. The full listing of those
killed reads:
BOWSHER, Charles J, Able Seaman, RFR, P/J 44141, killed
BROOKS, Cecil, Ordinary Seaman, P/JX 212128, killed
BURDEN, Maurice R H, Stoker 1c, P/KX 83670, MPK
CHALMERS, John, Able Seaman, P/SSX 17095, MPK
DAVIES, Arthur, Able Seaman, P/JX 176189, MPK
DINES, James H, Cook (O) 1c, P/L 14276, MPK
DONNELLY, Hugh, Able Seaman, C/SSX 20366, DOW
GRANT, Henry A H, Able Seaman, D/JX 145064, killed
GRANT, Jack, Leading Steward, P/LX 22360, MPK
HALLAS, Uriah, Stoker Petty Officer, P/KX 78803, MPK
HARVEY, Edwin, Able Seaman, D/JX 187955, MPK
HAYWARD, Thomas E, Cook, P/MX 56899, MPK
HEATH, Frederick W, Able Seaman, C/JX 169057, MPK
HOUSE, Harry N, Stoker 1c, P/KX 83487, MPK
HUNTER, Thomas, Able Seaman, RNVR, P/CD/X 2794, MPK
KELLY, John A, Leading Stoker, P/KX 84559, MPK
MAY, William F, Stoker 1c, P/KX 97347, MPK
MCKELVIE, David C, Stoker 1c, P/KX 93398, MPK
MCKINLAY, George P, Able Seaman, P/SSX 18304, MPK
MEADLEY, Cecil L, Lieutenant (E), killed
MERRITT, William A, Stoker Petty Officer, P/K 64970, MPK
O'BRIEN, William, Stoker 1c, P/K 59853, MPK
RAMSEY, Edward, Stoker 1c, P/KX 93359, MPK
RATCHFORD, William R, Stoker 1c, C/KX 96588, killed
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ROBARTS, Charles J, Surgeon Lieutenant, MPK
SCARLETT, George E, Able Seaman, P/JX 174206, MPK
SIDEY, George S, Able Seaman, RNVR, P/CD/X 2618, DOW
SMITH, Herbert H, Stoker 1c, P/KX 93362, MPK
SMYTH, Arthur P, Act/Engine Room Artificer 4c, D/MX 52272, MPK
SOPPITT, Robert, Stoker 1c, P/KX 97628, killed
SOUTHALL, Henry T, Act/Leading Seaman, P/JX 142300, DOW
STEPHEN, George, Able Seaman, RNVR, P/CD/X 2901, killed
STURGESS, David A, Able Seaman, P/JX 171092, MPK
SWEENEY, Daniel, Able Seaman, RNVR, P/CD/X 2714, killed
SWEENEY, John, Stoker 2c, C/KX 108672, killed
WALLACE, Johannes P, Stoker 1c, P/KX 93393, MPK
WILBY, William H, Able Seaman, D/JX 165233, MPK
WILSON, Robert H D, Canteen Assistant, NAAFI, MPK
One tragic aspect of this list, repeated time and again with other ships lost in
action, is the staggering proportion of those listed as “MPK – Missing
Presumed Killed”. We are somewhat accustomed to WWI memorials listing
thousands “with no known grave” but tend to forget that this was of necessity
also the case with naval losses.
In modern war and conflict we tend to expect near-immediate news and update
of what is happening in combat. Indeed we now have ‘embedded’ reporters,
satellite links and digital photography; all speeding the news back home
(although still subject to the censor’s digital pencil). Back in 1941 things were
very different.
At the time of the Auckland sinking my mother was staying with father’s sister
in Hinckley. Helping out in the family newsagent shop (this is now the Tesco
Express on London Road in Hinckley) a small note was spotted in a single
paper stating “Auckland lost” – and almost nothing else. Knowing that my
father was sailing on the Auckland the family swept the rest of the papers for
more news but to no avail. My mother told me that it was a further three weeks
before she got confirmation that her husband was alive albeit seriously ill in
hospital in Gibraltar with pneumonia.
The wreck of the Auckland still lies at 32-15N, 24-30E, and is listed on diving
websites as a “wreck of some interest”.
Some sources
MINISTRY OF DEFENCE, Defence Records 2A, Bourne Avenue, Hayes,
Middlesex UB3 1RF Telephone: 020 8573 3831 ext 323, email:
navysearch.defencerecords2@gtnet.gov.uk
www.naval-history.net
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http://www.naval-history.net/xDKCas1941-06JUN.htm
Google “HMS Auckland” and explore . . . .
HMS Auckland during her travels around South Africa
HMS Auckland in her death throes June 1941
Ian Phillpott
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HOW LONG DID THEY LIVE?
The Society produces indexes to help its members to trace their ancestors. But
because they exist as computer files, they can also be used for other purposes:
to investigate more general features of our history. For example to count how
many people were baptized, married or died in different places at different
times.
Purpose and Process
The purpose of this investigation is to find the life expectancy of our Leicester
ancestors in general. This has been defined as the number of years a person is
expected to live, from any given starting age. The starting age is important
because high infant mortality can reduce life expectancy at birth to below 50,
yet a 50 year old can still have many years to live. For this reason, and to make
comparisons easier, instead of giving the result as “years to live”, it can be
expressed as “age at death”.
Also, the average may not be the best way to show the conclusion because
averages can be misleading if there are many particularly high or low numbers.
A more useful calculation is to show the median instead. This is the age by
which 50% of people will have died, and beyond which 50% can expect to live.
So if a 60 year old is given a life expectancy of 85, they will have lived longer
than most if they reach 86. (This is not necessarily true if an average is used.)
To acquire such figures means using historical data. The future can sometimes
be predicted from the past. Here we are only analysing the past, not promising
to predict.
To do this we need lots of ages at death. To match births (or baptisms) to deaths
or burials, could mean matching each “John Smith” correctly and is likely to be
impossible. Fortunately, some of our burial registers record the age of the
deceased and we can use this to find the year of birth.
Sources
We had access to two useful LRFHS burial projects. One was from Leicester’s
Early Burials (CD 99). The other was later and came from Welford Road
Cemetery Burials (CD 71).
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The earlier burials were recorded from 1558, but ages were not entered until
1700, so we have from 1700 to 1812, more than a lifetime, and can calculate
back from their burials to find all the people who had been born in the first few
years of the 18th century, 1700-1710. There were 647 such people to work with.
The Welford Road burials run from 1849 to about 1950, so we again have a
century to work with and can analyse the lives of those born during the first full
decade, from 1849 to 1859. Here there were over 23,000 people who had been
born at that time and were subsequently buried in the new Leicester Cemetery.
Results
The data in the tables that follow relate to people born (not buried) in the
decade referred to. The exceptions to this are the burials of stillborn babies
recorded in Welford Road Cemetery. There were 1180 of these in the first
decade, corresponding to about 5% of the total burials. In the earlier parish
burials, the stillborn were not recorded. The rest of the data refer to live births.
The tables show the two periods beside each other for comparison.
Median Life Expectancy
Leic Early
Start Age 1700-10
0
30
1
42
10
51
20
52
30
56
40
60
50
65
60
74
70
77
80
84
90
92
WfRd
1850-60
42
53
62
63
65
68
71
73
78
84
91
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At birth, we see that a baby born in the 1850s was likely to live for at least 10 more
years than one born 1700-1710. This expectation continued until over the age of
30. Over the age of 60, the two sets of figures are nearly the same. The Great War
is unlikely to affect these results as those born around 1850 would be too old to
fight.
Another way to see the same people is to ask how many will have died before a
certain age. These results are shown in the next table.
We see that about half the population will have died before the age of 30 in the
early period, but that age rises to the early 40s by the middle of the 19 th century.
Three quarters died before they were 60 in the early parishes, but that proportion
could approach an age of 70 from the later period.
Leic Early
Dead by
N
o
WfRd
%
0 (StBn)
No
%
1180
4.78
1
141
21.79
3934
16.76
10
239
36.94
7638
32.55
20
264
40.80
8311
35.42
30
321
49.61
9643
41.09
40
378
58.42
11308
48.19
50
435
67.23
13256
56.49
60
511
78.98
14953
63.72
70
549
84.85
17927
76.40
80
611
94.44
21254
90.57
90
641
99.07
23236
99.02
Total:-
647
23466
You may be curious to know whether this can tell us anything about those alive
today; something that insurance companies need. As family historians, the best that
we can do is to cover the early 20th century, but for this we must await the results
of the Gilroes Cemetery Burials project.
Pat & Malcolm Glasse
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DID IT REALLY HAPPEN?
I read the letter from Richard Ellis in the last journal regarding the Leicester and
Swannington Railway with great interest as it raises an important point. As family
historians we all know the dangers of believing family stories unless we can prove
them to be correct, but what about the printed word? How far should we believe
what is written? Richard suggests Clement Stretton invented the story of the
locomotive’s chimney striking the roof of the Glenfield Tunnel as this incident
doesn’t appear in any other reports of the opening of the railway. Why though
would a notable Victorian historian want to make-up such a story when it could
easily have been proved untrue? When I was researching this railway every report,
including the well-known book by C R Clinker reports this story, in fact Mr
Clinker even explains the reason the incident happened, he wrote “Slight delay was
caused by the engine chimney striking the roof of the tunnel at a point where the
platelayers had temporarily raised the track at a low place”. I must admit though I
have often wondered how the train still arrived on time at its destination if this
incident did happen. Whilst I don’t doubt what Richard is saying, I still wonder if
the incident did happen but the railway company, not wanting bad publicity, asked
the press not to report it. Perhaps we will never know for sure but, as I asked
earlier – just how much should we believe what is written?
Brian Johnson
OPENING OF THE LEICESTER AND
SWANNINGTON RAILWAY
10TH JUNE 1833
First – apologies to all those members who tried to read the photostat copy of the
old newspaper article in the LRFHS journal on Page 51 of the September issue of
the LRFHS magazine- about this railway. My apologies but it was the wrong
newspaper article!
To make up for it – here is a complete transcribed copy of the correct version of
this newspaper report published in the “Leicester Chronicle” dated 13 th June 1833
– which I promise you is an interesting “read”………
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“The Leicester and Swannington railway was opened Tuesday, the day being
ushered in with the ringing of bells, firing of canons , and other demonstrations of
joy. As early as seven o’clock numbers were seen entering the town for the
purpose of seeing so novel a sight, and the partaking of festivities provided on the
occasion.
About ten o’clock, the company, who were furnished with cards of admission, took
their seats in the different carriages , according to their numbers : the arrangements
being complete , the engine was brought down to the train of carriages and
attached, when the whole moved on at a rate of five miles an hour for a short
distance, and after having been stopped and brought back for the gratification of
the immense number of spectators, the whole train advanced at a very rapid pace,
amidst the deafening shouts of the crowds, which lined the sides of the road and
soon arrived at the entrance to the tunnel.
It is impossible to conceive the feeling that instantaneously struck the company in
the carriages on exchanging the glaring light of a July sun for the almost
impenetrable darkness of this subterraneous passage, and the heat of a summer’s
day for the chill of the night.
On emerging from the darkness of the tunnel into the clear light of day, the
cheering effect was
evinced in a simultaneous of pleasure and delight from the whole party : and the
spirits which had been depressed by the passage through the gloomy cavern were
soon elated to the highest pitch.
On passing the branch line at Groby, W. Martin Esq., Lord Stamford’s agent, with
the Groby band, and a great number of people from that place were waiting the
arrival of the train, and received them with loud exclamations. The speed was then
much increased until about a mile of Bagworth, when the carriages were moved at
a very small pace, owing to ‘a bit of a garg’ as the engineer, Gillespie, quaintly
expressed it; or as we should suppose, the supply of steam not being sufficient to
hold out to the end of the journey.
The whole party arrived without accident at a field near Bagworth, where marques
were erected and tables set out with a cold collation for the gentlemen, and the
ladies were hospitably entertained with
cakes, wine etc, at the house of Mr Pickard. Water was almost the only liquid in
request, - ale, porter, cider, Sherry, Bucellas, and Champagne being provided in the
greatest profusion.
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About a quarter past two, the party were again called together, and the carriages,
with several loads of coal, and stones attached, returned at the rate of twenty miles
an hour. Oh again emerging from the tunnel they were greeted by the report of
cannon and the shouts of thousands of spectators on each side of the road into the
town. The carriages arrived at the spot from whence they started about three
o’clock, every person being highly delighted with the journey. In the evening, a
party of about 50 gentlemen dined at the Bell.
The only circumstance worthy of censure was that of several individuals displaying
flags and attempting to excite a party feeling in the celebration of an event fraught
with so much interest to
all parties.
We understand that a person on horseback, riding after the carriages, ran over an
old woman, who was too eager in approaching the train : and another imprudently
took his horse through the tunnel, but having no light by which to steer his course,
had both legs severely injured, by coming into contact with the wall on either side.
In the evening, a boy was playing with others, on one of the soil wagons on the
rail, when one of his companions opening the inlet in the bottom of the wagon, fell
through, and the wheels passed over his arm near his elbow ; he was taken to the
Infirmary, and it is not yet known whether amputation is necessary. “
Phew! Those early railways were certainly dangerous places – and demonstrates
how naïve people were in those days about the infrastructure – no fencing off raillines /tunnels/crossings/wagons etc. I recall from my history lessons, a more
famous incident when John Huskisson MP and minister was killed when he was
run over by the famous “Rocket” engine at the opening of the Liverpool &
Manchester railway in 1830 as he crossed the line to speak to the Duke of
Wellington!
Richard Ellis (richard_ellis@ntlworld.com)
MICK RAWLE’S ODDS AND ENDS
Roy Gordon-Smith one of my ex pupils emailed me this story some time ago and I
came across it again recently. It just goes to show how much ‘Political Spin’ can
alter what really happened.
An Australian family historian Judy Judd was working on her family tree and
discovered that she was distantly related to the Australian ex-Prime Minister Kevin
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Rudd. During her research she came across a photograph of a great-great uncle
Remus Rudd standing on the gallows at Melbourne Gaol with a rope around his
neck.
On the back of the photo was this inscription “Remus Rudd, horse thief, sent to
Melbourne Gaol 1885, escaped 1887, robbed the Melbourne-Geelong train six
times. Caught by Victoria Police Force, convicted and hanged in 1889.”
Judy wrote to the ex-Prime Minister’s office to ask if he could tell her anything
about Remus Rudd and received this biographical sketch :“Remus Rudd was famous in Victoria during the mid to late 1800s. His business
empire grew to include acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and intimate
dealings with the Melbourne-Geelong Railroad. Beginning in 1883 he devoted
several years of his life to government service, finally taking leave to resume his
dealings with the railroad.
In 1887 he was a key player in a vital investigation run by the Victoria Police
Force.
In 1889 Remus Rudd passed away during an important civic function held in his
honour when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed.”
When you have recovered from that one, let me tell you about a marriage I came
across in Thornton in 1843.
Thornton Parish Register 1843 - Marriage of John DOWELL and Ann EGGS and
one of the witness signatures said ‘Rotten EGGS’. I couldn’t believe what I saw,
so called in Lois the archivist and showed her, and she immediately burst out
laughing - and I was trying to be serious!
John Savage who is a volunteer researcher for the Record Office showed me an
entry in a Quarter Session Book in the Epiphany Quarter of 1767.
It was regarding a Bastardy Case for a girl of Kegworth called ‘Ellen Tortoishall’
How Old?
Long Clawson Baptism 1692 - Sarah Dubleday, a person of ripe years was
baptized July 20th.
Mick Rawle
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STRAYS FROM CARLISLE JOURNAL
25th April, 1835: On the 6th inst., at Ragdale, near Leicester, the Rev. R.
COALBANK, son of Mr. Isaac COALBANK, of Netherwasdale, in this county
[Cumberland], to Maria, only daughter of W. RICHARDS, Esq., Ragdale Hall,
Leicestershire.
9th April, 1836: At Seagrave Rectory, Leicestershire, on Tuesday, the 5th inst., by
the Rev. Robert GUTCH, George DIXON, Esq., of Carlisle, to Mary, youngest
daughter of the late Reverend Jonathan POUCHER, vicar of Epsom, Surry.
19th November, 1836: At Brampton, on the 13th inst., by the Rev. J. TOPPING,
Henry, son of the Rev. Mark SCOTT, of Howston, Leicestershire, to Eleanor,
eldest daughter of Mr. Thomas RICHARDSON, grocer, Brampton.
On the evening of Sunday, the 20th May, at Gretna Hall, Scotland, James
BAKEWELL, Esq., of Manchester, to Louisa Caroline, only surviving daughter of
the late Thomas WHITEHEAD, Esq., of Mountsorrel, Leicestershire.
[This was a famous place for irregular marriages.]
David Scott.
USEFUL WEBSITES
A member told us of her problems with cancelling Ancestry.co.uk. This problem
can apply to a full subscription or a 2 week free trial:
"I cancelled well before the end of period, but guess what! - they still took my
money for the next 12 months"
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I have hopefully dealt with it and will be getting refunded !!
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INFORMATION PAGES
The National Archives, the Friends of The National Archives and the Federation of
Family History Societies have embarked on a joint project to digitize and
transcribe the MH 47 record series.
The series is a key collection of First World War records, including records of
around 10,000 men who did not wish to see Army service, for a variety of reasons.
The files contain the minutes and papers from the Central Military Service
Tribunal and Middlesex Appeal Tribunal as well as some selected papers of the
Veterinary Tribunal and a printed set of minutes from the Central Medical War
Committee.
These tribunal records include some fascinating and touching stories including a
real life 'Saving Private Ryan', a butcher who was needed to help introduce meat
rationing and a violinist from Poland. It is hoped that the digitization of these case
papers will help to open up these stories and stimulate new discussion about
conscientious objection.
For more information on the project, visit nationalarchives.gov.uk/conscriptionappeals.
Project members will also be blogging about the records and the project progress at
nationalarchives.gov.uk/blog.
These records only cover a small proportion of the appeals made against
conscription and other appeals to local tribunals may exist elsewhere in the UK.
We already know of records that exist for Peebles and Lothian and we will be
searching Access to Archives, http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/ to see what
other records survive. This is not a task that can be done in an instant and we hope
to be assisted by societies and individuals who know of such records held around
the UK.
If you know of any records held locally, please let us know.
I strongly suggest you have a look at the websites above, especially the blog as it is
developing daily. If you have any information, please let me know on
Chairman@FFHS.org.uk
David Holman
Chairman
The Federation of Family History Societies (FFHS)
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Hartshill
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Stockingford
For further information about the dates and records that these microfilms cover you
can check online from the following link www.warwickshire.gov.uk/localstudies
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Genealogical Research in the East Midlands
Derby, Nottingham, Lincoln, Leicester, Rutland,
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All types of Family History Records researched
Documents photocopied or photographed
Courses, Advice, Talks to groups
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Tel : 01664 - 854691
Email : mick.rawle@ntlworld.com
Website : “Mick Rawle”
Go to website for more details, including
NEW CD of Leicestershire & Rutland Will Indexes
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THE RECORD OFFICE
FOR LEICESTERSHIRE
LEICESTER & RUTLAND
Long Street, Wigston Magna,
Leicester LEI8 2AH
Telephone 0116 2571080
NEWS FROM THE RECORD OFFICE
What have we been up to at the Record Office since over the summer and early
autumn? As usual, the first week of October was devoted to our annual stocktaking. The week-long closure may be a nuisance to you (which we very much
regret) but it really is a Godsend to us. We have no other opportunity to tackle
major jobs or to meet together for training or debate over policy and practice.
This year we worked hard on two collections. The first was the ‘Exton Collection’,
the papers of the Noel family of Exton in Rutland. This has a strong claim to be our
largest archival deposit and has just been completely catalogued as a result of a
National Cataloguing Fund award. Now we have the mammoth task of
renumbering and re-boxing the papers to make them readily available. Our second
search room was filled with boxes and staff (and volunteers) for the week. Not a
second was wasted – and we managed to process just over a quarter of the 650
boxes!
We also worked on an important set of records from the old Desford Boys’ School.
As well as being of great interest, of course, to the former pupils, the papers are a
valuable – possibly near unique – record of an old ‘industrial school’. As with the
Exton papers, the Desford Boys’ records yielded some wonderful material for
future historians. We can now chart the progress through the school of almost
every pupil, as well as much background information.
It would never do to forget all the other, routine or mundane work done too. You
will applaud the firm stand taken against disorder in our parish register
transcriptions and for a few weeks the microfiche will have a more convincing
order than usual. In a hundred different ways we have cleaned, sorted, counted and
ordered – ready for the winter onslaught!
We also spent an enjoyable day at the Family History Fair at Parklands in
September. It was lovely to be able to talk to so many of you, and in some cases
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put faces to names; always a pleasure. As some of you may have noticed we now
have two fantastic CDs for sale: “Leicestershire, Leicester and Rutland Indexes to
Baptisms 1706-1921 and Burials 1633-1978 and “Leicester Poor Law Union
Indexes to Admission and Discharge Records 1875-1921. The CDs are on sale at
the office for £15 each. The CDs, produced with the hard work of our volunteers,
contain nearly a quarter of a million entries between them. The entries on the nonconformist CD are taken from the 435 registers that are held at the office, so if you
can’t find a baptism or burial that you are looking for it is certainly worth a look.
The index for the Leicester workhouse includes the Receiving Home (1906-1921,
children born before 1911) and the Countesthorpe Cottage Homes (1884-1911).
They should certainly make life easier for anyone who suspects that one of their
relatives spent some time in the workhouse. For more details have a look at the
advert in the magazine.
Many of you will know Jess Jenkins, an archivist at the office, and may be
interested to know that she has written a superb book on the women's sufferage
movement. Mainly concerned with the involvement of local people, it puts their
participation into the national context . “The Burning Question” is on sale at the
office for £8 and is well worth reading. As well as “The Burning Question” the
latest edition of “The Searcher” is now available. This time the articles cover
various sportsmen and women and the sports that they participate in. A fascinating
read, especially if like us you have enjoyed this spectacular summer of sporting
excellence.
Don’t forget our Great War appeal. We need your help to create Leicestershire and
Rutland’s archive of the First World War. If you have family photographs or
papers recording life on whatever Front; we would love to know. We intend to be
the ‘one-stop-shop’ for 1914-1918 – but we need your help to achieve our goal.
Jan Pearson, Lois Edwards and Robin Jenkins
MORE FROM THE REGISTERS
Here are more marriages where the bride changes only one letter in her name.
Belgrave 1930
Thurcaston 1852
Grimston 1887
Louis Spencer & Mary Spence
William Waldon & Isabella Wadson
Arthur Giles & Susannah Miles
A few interesting ones:
Stonesby 1851
Thomas Black & Frances Kettell
Did their marriage go to pot?
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Thurcaston 1899
Alfred Leake & Eliza Ann Seal
Belgrave 1943
Kenneth Love & Sylvia May Pole
Primitive Methodist
Claremont Street 1915
Charles Batt & Ellen Ball
Gavin Carr
gb_carr@hotmail.co.uk
DID YOU KNOW?
PLACE NAMES
ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH
There are several Ashby’s in the Midlands, hence the need for suffix…de la Zouch.
Ashby means ‘ash tree farm’ from the Old Norse askr (ash) and by (farm
settlement).
The second half of the name denotes the Norman ‘lord of the manor’ in the 13 th
century, roger de la Zuche. (His surname, which means ‘tree stump’ gave the
English surname Such.)
The name was recorded as Ascebi in the Domesday Book and as Esseby la Zouch
in 1241.
CASTLE DONINGTON
A village well known for its nearby Airport and motor racing circuit. ‘ Donington’
means The ‘place of Dunn’s people’, with this recorded in the Domesday Book as
‘Dunintone’. Slight traces of the Norman castle remain.
COALVILLE
The name of this mining town is a modern one, given to the mining settlement that
developed here around a house called Coalville house in the 1820s and 1830s.
The original hamlet comprised of a few straggling cottages known as Long Lane.
The ‘- Ville ‘ part of the name is a typical nineteenth century habitation element.
Taken from Dictionary of Place Names in the British Isles, by Adrian Room.
Cis Taylor T154.
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ARE YOU RELATED TO
JAMES ALFRED HARTOPP?
I have recently acquired from my mother-in-law two silver tankards engraved with
the name J.A. Hartopp. James Alfred Hartopp was born in Leicester around 1869,
and became a Wine Merchant, with premises in Bond Street, Leicester. The 1911
Census shows him living in the Manor Hotel in Quorn, along with his wife Annie.
According to the 1901 Census he had two daughters Grace J. born in 1890 and
Lillian born in 1896. Researching James Hartopp revealed an amazing story,
featured in a newspaper the Traralgon Record, in Victoria, Australia on the 23rd
September 1904, also in a Scottish newspaper:
Towards the close of last year whilst Mr J. A. Hartopp, of Leicester, was driving
up the steep incline known as Woodhouse Eaves, in a pony and trap, he saw in
front of him a lady cyclist descending the hill at a great speed, loudly crying for
help. Grasping the situation at once. Mr. Hartopp jumped from his trap, and
setting himself firm, waited for the lady, and as she passed, caught her round the
waist and lifted her bodily off the machine. Had it not been for his prompt and
courageous action, the young lady would have undoubtedly been killed. Mr.
Hartopp is an enthusiastic cyclist himself, and vice-president of the Leicester C.C.
We are glad to report that he has been awarded for his action, and at the recent
distribution of medals and certificates of honour at Marlborough House, by the
Prince of Wales, was presented with a certificate.
I would like to hear from anyone who thinks they are connected with James Alfred
Hartopp family, and reunite the tankards with the family.
Peter Cousins
petercousins@ntlworld.com
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QUERY BOX
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to a minimum of information as the requests are
many, and this gives scope to print more of your
ancestral problems. Always quote your membership
number on all correspondence. –
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QUERY BOX NOW ONLINE
As well as sending your queries for inclusion in the Journal you can now add them
to our web site. Go to the main web page at www.lrfhs.org.uk and go to the
QUERY BOX link on the left hand side. Send your queries by e-mail and they will
be added to the page
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Hello
Charles Shultz
I am trying to trace Charles Schultz. He is listed on the 1901
census in Leicester as a policeman. I no longer live in Leicester myself so it is
difficult to get to the records office. Is there anyway anyone can check police
records for me? His wife was Ethel Elizabeth Schultz (nee Cooper) although I have
been unable to find a marriage record for them also. I am led to believe Charles
was born in New Jersey, USA although all records I have found thus far just state
USA.
Many thanks
Angela Vinnicombe
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I am trying to find out what happened to Charlotte Newham b.1856 Kegworth,
Leics. She appears aged 15 in the 1871 census as living at the Female
Reformatory in Exeter, Devon arriving there on 29/07/1869 and discharged on
19/08/1872. Prior to 1869 she was living with her parents William and
Charlotte Newham (nee Plackett) at Cockpit Hill, Derby. I cannot find her on
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the 1881,1891, 1901or 1911 censuses, nor can I find any record of her
marriage, death or emigration. Can anyone help or suggest any further lines
of enquiry?
Carole Baker
Hi
I am afraid I am not familiar with the Somerby area but I do know that my great
grandparents lived in the ‘stable yard ‘ Somerby for a number of years in the early
part of the 20th century. My best guesstimate is from 1901-1912 . They are listed as
living there in the 1911 census and my query really is the name of the family that
employed them was. Their names were Timothy and Ellen Looney and they were
born in County Cork and Count Tipperary Ireland respectively. I would appreciate
any help that you could give me or perhaps you could direct me as to where I
might find the answer. As far as I know the family had connections with county
Tipperary
Regards,
Margaret O’Sullivan
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Is there anywhere I can find the names of men that fought in the Civil War
of the 1640s.I know it’s a long shot but there’s a lot of knowledgeable
people out there.
Many Thanks
Terry Ratcliffe 36 Bordeau Crescent Petrie QLD. Australia 4502
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I'm trying to trace 'our Martha' around the 1840's /1850's. I wonder if any of your
helpful members could help.
Martha Tailby, daughter of William and Phoebe Tailby was born/baptised 16-031832 in Leicester. Ancestry and Find My Past tells me that on the 1841 census she
was living in the civil parish of St Margaret with Bishop Fee, with her parents
William and Phebey and a younger sister Marriet (Harriet).
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This is where I am really stuck and would appreciate some help. I just cannot trace
her on the 1851 census, or any where else for that matter. Her parents, younger
sister and a grandson are now living in the Sanvey Gate (All Saints) area (Alma
Row?). But I just cannot find Martha. I have enquired at the Record Office
regarding looking through the Workhouse records. I have been advised that
although the Workhouse was up and running, the Record Office do not hold
records that early.
On the 1861 census, I have found Martha and her young son Thomas, living with a
family called Wood, at 49 Carley Street, St Margaret, Leicester.
I have a copy of Thomas Tailby's birth certificate. This tells me that that he was
born December 1852, Sanvey Gate, All Saints. Martha registered his birth that
same month. I am assuming she was back with her parents for the birth.
I am also aware of so many spellings of the surname. e g Trilby, Tailly, Tealby,
Talby, Frailby, Tallboys,Tally and it could be just something like a spelling error
or transcription problem. Martha had signed Thomas's birth certificate with her
mark, so I am assuming she would not be able to assist with spelling her name.
Any help or suggestions with this little glitch is very much appreciated.
Regards
Sheena C Bell BO557
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Your Letters
The Executive Committee Members are happy to receive letters from anyone,
whether delivering a brickbat or bouquet, and these will be dealt with according
to content. However, we cannot give credence to, or print material that is
received anonymously. Any person who wishes to contact the Chairman or any
other committee member in total confidence may do so.
Dear Editor,
Firstly praise for an excellent publication – I have been an avid “cover to cover”
reader for several years. I was interested to see in the September issue the report of
Brian Johnston’s talk to the Leicester Group (page 54) and the mention of Joseph
Herbert Marshall. This reminded me of a long standing question in my family
history research.
Joseph was a piano maker and seller and had a big shop in Leicester and went on to
open in Regent’s Street London. His customers included the King of Greece and
the Crown Prince of Denmark. He was born around 1852 in the tiny hamlet of
Zouch Mills just over the border in Nottinghamshire, the son of James and
Caroline. James was a bookseller, born in Ireland – the place of birth variously
recorded as Cavan, Bailieborough or Lisbull. Why did an Irish bookseller move to
such a small place where the trade was, no doubt, minimal? That’s where my
history may come in.
There was a second family of Marshall’s in Zouch Mills at the same time. These
were my ancestors and can be traced back to Wymeswold around 1710. Did James
choose Zouch Mills because of a family connection with my Marshalls?
Some years ago I was in contact with an American lady also investigating this
possible connection. She had been in contact with an UK researcher who thought
that James’s father was a William Marshall from England. There seems to be a
definite possibility of a connection – but more questions as well – why did William
go to Ireland? – why did James return?
If any members can help with the above then I would be delighted to hear from
them. I do have some details of Joseph Herbert's achievements which I will gladly
share. He was obviously an important Leicester citizen.
Dave Marshall M0546 dandj.marshall@gmail.com
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Hello,
While in Tasmania we visited the old docks at Hobart. There are 2 dockside cranes
cosmetically restored and what a surprise to see that one was manufactured in
Leicester ! I learnt some of it's history from a pamphlet issued by the Engineering
Heritage Committee. It is a 25 tonne capacity, travelling steam crane, built by
Appleby Bros and commissioned in 1899 for Kings Pier South , Hobart. It was
down-rated to 20 tonnes in 1960 and remained in service until 1969.
Regards Michael Hull H0303
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Dear Editor
I have a question that I am hoping you can answer for me. There are now at least
four Dawson families in the United States whose DNA shows they are the same
family; and three of these families have firm paper trails leading back to Henry of
Breedon as their common ancestor.
That obviously in itself does not prove that we are related to Henry or his son
Griffin Dawson, only that we are related to “a common ancestor”; and that that
ancestor predates the first generation of the Jamestown Colony which is where our
respective Dawson families all had their beginnings.
As our families have become acquainted recently and have begun to share pictures,
we have discovered something we think is quite interesting.
Our Dawson men who are in the direct male line back to our “common ancestor”
all have a noticeable family resemblance even today.
Since Sir Bernard Burke’s Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed
Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland gives us the lineage of Henry Dawson of
Breedon from 1577 to 1892 (the death of Edward-Finch Dawson Squire of Launde
Abbey).
Henry Dawson of Newbold/Breedon, d. 1577
Griffin Dawson of Breedon d. 1657
Edward Dawson, b. 1628, Esq., of Long Whatton
Atkins Dawson, b. 1657, Esq. of Whatton
Edward Dawson, b. 1694, Esq. of Whatton
Edward Dawson, b. 1730, Esq. of Whatton
Edward Dawson b. 1778, Esq. of Whatton
Edward Dawson b. 1802, Esq. of Whatton
Edward Finch Dawson b. 1836, Esq. of Launde Abbey
Those were important, high-profile men of their day. Surely some portraits or other
pictures of them must still exist today.
Do you know of any volunteer genealogy groups who might be willing to attempt
to locate any such pictures and use a phone-camera to take a snapshot of them,
and e-mail them to us? If those men have a family likeness to our men today, then
our paperwork is probably accurate; and we are in fact related to them, albeit
distantly. If they don’t look like us, then we’re probably not related.
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I am attaching two pictures to give you an idea of what I mean when I say our
families have a likeness even today. The people in the pictures are all from the
WWII generation. Henry Clay Dawson and Delphine Dawson Wilson are brother
and sister, and are of my Dawson family. Again, our common ancestor for all of
them predated the founding of the Jamestown Colony in Virginia.
Any help you could give us would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
John Dawson Pierson Email: ab7fe@hotmail.com
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Many of us are probably putting our family history into words, or perhaps writing
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looks very similar to an earlier version of Word, ‘Calc’ is a spreadsheet programme
very similar to Excel, ‘Impress’ is a presentation programme like PowerPoint and
‘Draw’ is a graphics programme very similar to ‘Paint’, all of these can be used for
writing your book. We all know when we buy a new computer it can be almost as
expensive to buy the Microsoft programmes, but these are free and compatible
with the equivalent programmes. Looking at their website, they have had
18million downloads since May and won two awards. Their ‘Writer’ is used by
the French police and the Singapore Government among many other large bodies.
Mike demonstrated how to lay-out and manipulate a page and also how to draw a
family tree. However, it does have limitations, for this reason Mike also showed a
programme from Serif called PagePlus, this is much better but isn’t free, it costs
£81.69 – but the previous version can be bought from Amazon for £17.99.
Another interesting and informative evening.
Brian Johnson
HINCKLEY
The Main Hall, St. John's Church Centre, 351 Coventry Road, Hinckley (near
Trinity Marina) LE10 0NF
Open 7 for 7.30 start. Refreshments Available.
CHAIRMAN
PROGRAMME SEC
DEBORAH PHILLPOTT
SUZANNE MOUNTAIN
hinckley@lrfhs.org.uk
Membership Number M216
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Forthcoming Meetings
Jan 3rd
Orson Wright Champion Of The People Peter Cousins
Feb 7th
AGM Followed By Members Questions & Answers
October Meeting
At their October meeting we heard from Dr. Simon Pawley about “The Loneliness
of the Long Distance Bigamist”. Divorce in Victorian times was the province of
the wealthy: bigamy became known as the “poor man’s divorce” and was a subject
of intense fascination for Victorian folk. Dr. Pawley’s study started with one John
Hill, the father on an ancestor’s marriage certificate. Identified as simply a
“soldier”, Dr. Pawley lead us on a voyage of discovery into his background – with
some surprising results.
Dr. Pawley demonstrated how he traced John’s life as a framework knitter in
Leicestershire and his marriage in the county. John then appears in a barracks in
Plymouth where his service records suddenly begin to show him claiming to be
“single”. His service records then continue to show him as single and his final
“intended destination” at his discharge from the Forces as Plymouth. Clearly John
had no intention of moving back to his family in Leicestershire.
We then saw the record for John’s marriage in Devon. Here he stated he was a
widower – yet we also saw evidence that his wife and children were still alive and
well in Leicestershire. 30 years and 200 miles away John had started a new family
life. In a lively discussion the group speculated on why John would have uprooted
himself from Leicestershire and started a new - albeit bigamous - life in Devon. A
favoured possibility was an escape from the grinding poverty of a framework
knitter's life back in the Midlands. He remained elusive even in death! Dr. Pawley
explained that John died in 1905 and although the burial register records his burial
the plot register for the church involved has gone missing. So, as there is no
headstone, it is impossible to locate
his grave!
Ian Phillpott
September Meeting
At their September meeting Hinckley Family History Society heard from Prof.
Mark Jobling about “what genetics can and can’t tell us about the past”. Mark gave
illustrated examples of the use of ‘hard’ evidence in mapping and understanding
the past. These included using maps, the structure of language and archaeological
evidence. He explained how genetics had recently come onto the scene and was
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commonly thought of as a “magic bullet” to provide all of the answers! He then
explained why this was not the case.
The genetic sequence is passed down through the generations and Mark explained
the difference between Direct Reading (e.g. taking samples from old skeletons) and
Indirect Reading (analysing modern people and extrapolating into the past. The
first is riddled with problems of modern genetic contamination of the sample. The
latter is somewhat disrupted by population migrations that have become prevalent
in the last 500 years or so.
However Mark gave some convincing examples of how genetic mapping can
provide at least very strong indicators of population movement and intermingling.
Sadly for family historians the evidence becomes much less clear within the last
few centuries! Mark also illustrated the use of genetics with surnames to identify
genetic origins. For “Smith” this doesn’t work too well – there is little geographic
focus on these common names. But Mark demonstrated that the more obscure the
name the clearer the picture of genetic origin.
We also learned about using language structure to look for origins. Mark gave the
example of the Romany language spreading from origins in north India out across
southern Europe. Mark achieved a good balance between explaining the use of
genetics in historical research without losing us in the technical detail of genetic
science. Well done, Mark!
Ian Phillpott
LEICESTER
Age Concern Oadby & Wigston
Hawthorn House, 51 Paddock Street, WIGSTON, Leicester LE18 2AN
Tel: 0116 288 5203
Plenty of free car parking opposite the building
Open from 6.30. Tea and coffee before and after the meetings.
CHAIRMAN
PETER COUSINS, 13 Langton Road, Wigston, Leicester LE18 2HT
VICE CHAIRMAN BRIAN JOHNSON, 2 Gibson Close, Wigston Magna, Leicester, LE18 1AP
SECRETARY
MRS. GAYNOR JOHNSTON, 61 Grange Road, Wigston, Leicester LE18 1JL
Forthcoming Meetings: Jan 10th
Members Evening - Memories, Memorabilia & Questions
Feb 14th
AGM Followed By The Green Room Plaque John Frearson
PLEASE NOTE JAN AND FEB MEETINGS ONLY ARE ON THURSDAY
EVENINGS AND NOT WEDNESDAYS AS NORMAL
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October - Tars in the Trenches Nick Marshall
Nick arrived fully kitted out in WWI battledress, including rifle and gas mask, to
explain the history of the Royal Naval Division and the Royal Naval Volunteer
Reserve. At the start of the First World War, it became obvious more soldiers
were desperately needed, so Churchill, the first Lord of the Admiralty, brought in
the naval reserve, issued them with battledress, tin helmet and rifle and sent them
down the trenches. They received four and a half weeks training at Crystal Palace
before going to the front, where they proved themselves to be determined fighters.
Later, Blandford Camp was also opened for training. Instead of being numbered,
the RND battalions were named after famous admirals. They retained Naval ranks,
regulations and terminology and were paid the Naval rate of 1/3 a day, whereas the
army only paid 1/- per day. They also still received their tot of rum per day – the
soldiers only got a tot per week! Among other locations the RND fought bravely
at Antwerp in 1914, Gallipoli in 1915, The Somme 1916, Ypres 1917 and
Flesquieres in 1918 when 300,000 gas shells rained down on them causing 50%
casualties. The Royal Naval Division was disbanded in 1919. Throughout WW1,
of the 144,000 men who served in the RND, 40,000 were wounded and 8,000 were
killed.
My grandfather served in Hood Battalion of the RND, was wounded, gassed twice
(once at Flesquieres) and blinded by the gas for three days. Fortunately, he
survived.
Brian Johnson
September
Mills and Millers of Leicestershire Dr. Susan Tebby
Susan’s interest in mills began 30 years ago when she moved into a house two
doors from the windmill in Ullesthorpe. Since then has she put many hours into
researching their locations, types and the millers who worked them. At the time of
the Domesday survey there were 5,634 mills nationally and 123 in Leicestershire,
each would have been operated by a Master Miller assisted by an apprentice or
Journeyman Miller and the larger ones would also employ grinders, mill boys and
a number of labourers. The earliest mills were water driven before a move to wind
power in the 12th century, but surprisingly windmills were only about 60% efficient
(now where have we heard this before?), a good number were adapted to steam
power in later years in order to add to their capacity to feed the growing
population. Many of the mills were worked by tenant millers, but a great number
were owned by the miller and many of them became very prosperous. Susan
showed us mills in the city and county and talked about the millers, their families
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and the stories of individual millers. Susan’s passion and knowledge for mills was
obvious and the talk was delivered with a sprinkling of humour.
Brian Johnson
LOUGHBOROUGH
Room F012,Foden Building, Radmoor Centre
Loughborough College, Radmoor Road
Loughborough LE11 3BT
Meetings held on Tuesday evenings
The Room is on the 2nd Floor, There is a lift & wheelchair access
Plenty of on-site parking & bus stop outside
CHAIRMAN
SECRETARY
Jan 8th
Feb 12th
MAGGIE HEGGS, 18 Tamworth Close, Shepshed, Leicester LE12 9NE
My Family History Journey Adrian Hickson
AGM Followed By "Down The Garden Path"
Leics. & Rutland Privvies David Bell
September 2012
Pat Grundy was our speaker this month showing how maps can be useful to the
family historian. There are different types of maps - Ordnance Survey Maps which
had military origins and created to help with the movements of armies. The British
Library holds complete sets and many early sketches. Ordnance Survey became an
independent organisation in 1841 and has been mapping the British Isles ever
since. In Leicestershire the earliest maps are dated from 1880's and can be seen at
the Record Office.
Ariel Maps - there is a series for Leicestershire & Rutland held in the Record
Office - these were taken as photographs during the Second World War.
Tithe Maps are best in terms of family history - by 8th century there was an
obligation to give one tenth of all produce to the church. As tithe ownership passed
to private individuals over time and local customs changed this became
increasingly difficult. In 1836 the Tithe Commutation Act was passed in order to
convert all tithes to rent charges based on price of grain and therefore simplifying
the whole system. As a result maps were created between 1836 and 1852 and are
an excellent source for land use, land ownership and field names.
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Enclosure Maps - Most of the enclosure acts took place between 1750 and 1850.
An enclosure award contains a great deal of information about the ownership and
land-use in a parish including boundaries, roads and waterways. Not all maps have
survived but where they have they are very useful indeed.
Parish and Estate maps were created mainly as a whim of the parish or the estate
owner for a variety of reasons. If it was just concerned with boundaries then it is a
very scant map indeed.
Maps vary from place to place and also vary in quality and scale it is worth having
a look if there is a map in the area you are interested in.
October 2012
My Jewish Roots by Sandra McQueen
As with most of us it takes a death in the family to actually start us on the path of
family history.
Starting with her own parents, after their death Sandra decided to look further back
into her father’s family.
By going back using wedding, birth and death certificates and the census Sandra
has found Jewish Roots that she nor some of the family ever knew about. Of course
looking on the certificates and coming up with biblical names for the males made
her start to wonder.
Sandra has so far found Jewish roots in Poland and Germany which did come
together through a marriage and is hoping in the not too distant future to visit the
places for more clues.
Maggie Heggs
MARKET HARBOROUGH
The Roman Way Day Centre Conference Room,
36, Roman Way, Market Harborough – 7.30 start
Chairman/Secretary
Vice Chairman
Treasurer
Speaker Finder
A. Bott/ M. Hammond
Vacant
Maryan Richardson
Pam Abbott
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Local Liaison officer
Paul Cockerill
Forthcoming Meetings
Jan 17th
"Pop To Uncle" A Pawnbrokers Life Ken Day
Feb 21st
AGM Followed By The Charge Of
The Light Brigade Len Holden
September
We were given a talk about the Royal Navy Division in the first world war by Nick
Marshall, who takes part in re-enactments. They were Naval recruits, conscripts
and reservists who were given army soldier duties when there were not naval jobs
available. They served in the trenches in Naval uniforms in Antwerp, Gallipoli and
Madras. They also had the naval ranking insignia. Their behaviour was not as
good as regular soldiers. The speaker came dressed in an authentic uniform and
showed us some of the equipment they would have carried.
October
At the October meeting, our speaker, Dr Simon Pawley, told us about his family
research into his Hill ancestors. Starting with John Hill he found his wife, Mary.
By using the internet he found John on the 1851 census in Cosby, Leicestershire.
On his marriage certificate (1849) he was a framework knitter. Hs daughter, Ann,
was born in 1851. In the 1861 census they were living with Mary Hill’s brother,
Thomas Henry, and his wife. They had a lodger, James Hammond, in the 1871
census and the 1881 census. Further research found that John was baptised in
1829. He joined up, claiming to be 19, in 1854. He served on HMS Exmouth as a
cooper (this was no so; it was his father’s occupation). He was at sea when Mary
became pregnant, the daughter Mary Ellen (Simon’s relative) hence was
illegitimate. Was James Hammond the father? Simon has no proof of this. John
stayed on in service for 21 years abandoning his wife and daughter. Then,
pretending to be a widower, not so as his wife was still alive, he remarried Ellen
Scott in 1876. This was of course an act of bigamy. They had children as well.
Was it the conditions of being a framework knitter or a disagreement with his first
wife? He died in 1905 his secret kept, until Simon found him out.
Paul Cockerill
RUTLAND GROUP
St Joseph’s Catholic Church, Station Road, Oakham at 7.30 p.m.
CHAIRMAN
PROGRAM SECRETARY
Stuart Temple, 14 Castle Rise, Belmesthorpe, PE9 4JL
Mrs. Marjorie Tacey
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Forthcoming Meetings
Jan 14th
A Flight In The Zeppelin
Richard Davis
Feb 11th
Who Owned Rutland In 1873? Tim Clough
October 2012 -“Censored” by Wendy Freer
Wendy started her talk by giving historical background to how the census began.
The 18th Century population debate – was it growing or was it sinking – led to
ideas of a national census. The first legislation in 1753 was defeated and the first
census arrived in 1801. They have been carried out every 10 years since then with
the exception of 1941 but few before 1841 exist today. In 1801 occupations were
divided into 3 categories: agriculture, trade manufacturing and handicrafts, and
others. Returns were collected by the overseers of the poor and the church, who
had been responsible reporting all births, marriages and deaths from 1700. By
1831 there were 7 employment categories. From 1841 schedules were delivered to
every house (by men); women were allowed to become enumerators in 1891.
Everyone, even the Queen, is required to fill in the census.
She then went on the look at the humorous aspects of the census. Bizarre
occupations: bulldog maker, doctor maker, sad iron maker, tingle maker to name a
few. Also it was amazing how many dressmakers or laundry workers were living
in the same establishments!! Others openly admitted to prostitution. Although
most of us are very familiar with the various censuses it was a very interesting talk.
Were your forebears in Wellington’s Army? By Geoff Lee
Geoff began his tale by giving background history on the Duke of Wellington and
the Napoleonic/ Peninsula wars; with many pictures of the Duke and the numerous
bloody battles. The final battle at Waterloo left more than 10,000 dead and teeth
were taken from fallen officers to make false teeth which were much prized.
(Presumably the ordinary soldier had bad teeth!)
His family interest was in Abraham Pragnell, one of his wife’s ancestors. Using
various documents he was able to map his journey (all on foot) around Spain and
France, also in the UK to Jersey, Portsmouth and Edinburgh.
Lists of officers can be found on the internet and information can be gained from
Militia Lists and Muster Rolls held by local record offices or the Medal Roll at the
National Archives. Regimental museums and books by Philip Haythornthwaite
were also recommended.
Marjorie Tacey
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LIST OF NEW MEMBERS
NEW Members August 2012 to October 2012
Only Members who have accepted the DPA statement are included in this list.
E mail addresses can be supplied on request via the e mail address on the first page.
A0348 ALCOCK, Mr. BRIAN, 15 HERRICK WAY, WIGSTON, LEICESTER, LE18 3LR
A0349 ANSTOCK, Mrs. JILL, 9 ANTHONY STREET, ROTHLEY, LEICESTERSHIRE,
LE7 7PA
B1269 BROWN, Mr. KEVIN GRAHAM, 55 MOUNT VERNON AVENUE, BARNESLEY,
SOUTH YORKSHIRE, ST0 4EF
B1270 BAKER, Mrs. CAROLE RITA, 12 FOURTH AVENUE, HOLLY LODGE, TADWORTH,
SURREY, KT20 6SJ
B1271 BOSWORTH, Mr. JOHN, 12 BUCKINGHAM WALK, NEW MILTON, HAMPSHIRE,
BH25 5XJ
B1272 BUCHANAN, Mr. WILLIAM, 16 OLDERSHAW ROAD, EAST LEAKE,
NR LOUGHBOROUGH, LEICESTERSHIRE, LE12 6NG
B1273 BOWN, Mrs. JANET, 88 BURLEIGH ROAD, HINCKLEY, LEICESTERSHIRE,
LE10 0DQ
B1274 BARNES, Mr. RISSELL, 6 BIRCHTREE AVENUE, BIRSTALL, LEICESTER, LE4 4LA
B1275 BARRETT, Mr. HUMPHREY, 7 GUILD CLOSE, CROPSON, LEICESTER, LE7 7HT
B1276 BOYLES, Mr. RICHARD, 9 NARVIK ROAD, CORBY, NORTHAMPTONSHIRE,
NN18 9DW
B1277 BROUGHTON, Mr. BRIAN ANTHONY, 20 MANOR CLOSE, YAXLEY,
PETERBOROUGH, CAMBRIDGESHIRE, PE7 3NS
B1278 BROWN, Ms. PAULINE, 21 WITHCOTE AVENUE, LEICESTER, LE5 6SW
B1279 BROWN, Mr. STEPHEN, 4 THE CROFTS, STANTON HILL, SUTTON-IN-ASHFIELD,
NOTTINGHAMSHIRE, NG17 3HS
B1280 BARKER, LAURIE, 6 WEST 1500 SOUTH, BOUNTIFUL, UT 84010, U.S.A
C0826 CLARKE, Mrs. KATHLEEN, 26 TRENDLEWOOD PARK, STAPLETON, BRISTOL, AVON,
BS16 1TE
C0827 CROSS, Ms. JOANNE, 132 HALLAM CRESCENT EAST, LEICESTER, LE3 1FE
D0426 DANIELL, Mrs. LESLEY, 13 CHIRCH ROAD,AYLESTON, LEICESTER, LE2 8LB
D0427 DALE, Mrs. JEAN & Mr. IVAN, 15 LAUNCESTON ROAD, WIGSTON, LEICESTER,
LE18 2GZ
F0356 FITTON, Mr. JOHN BARRAS, 32 FARNDALE VIEWS, MARKET HARBOROUGH,
LEICESTERSHIRE, LE16 9FA
G0551 GONTY, VERONICA, 2 GASTON FARM, HOLT, TROWBRIDGE, WILTSHIRE,
BA14 6QA
G0552 GONZALES-GARCIA, CATHERINE, 47 PORTLAND ROAD, RETFORD,
NOTTINGHAMSHIRE, DN22 7NR
H0965 HEATHCOTE, S. R., 13 MANOR DRIVE, ANSTEY HEIGHTS, LEICESTER, LE4 1BL
H0966 HILL, Mrs. CLARE, 234 ASQUITH BOULEVARD, LEICESTER, LE2 6FB
H0967 HUDSON, Mr. ANDREW MARK, 132 TAMWORTH ROAD, LONG EATON,
NOTTINGHAMSHIRE, NG10 3JU
I0057 ISSITT, Mrs. LYNNE, 15 COOPER CLOSE, AYLESTONE, LEICESTER, LE2 8ST
J0270 JACKSON, Mr. NEVILLE, 32 ORKNEY CLOSE, HINCKLEY, LEICESTERSHIRE,
LE10 0TA
K0264 KETLEY, Mrs. YVONNE CHRISTINE, STONECROFT, VICARAGE LANE, REDBOURNE,
GAINSBOROUGH, LINCOLNSHIRE, DN21 4QW
K0265 KEABLE, Mrs. SANDRA MARY, 2 BURROUGH HALL FARM COTTAGES,
SOMERBY ROAD, BURROGH ON THE HILL, MELTON MOWBRAY,
LEICESTERSHIRE, LE14 2QZ
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L0381 LOWE, JENNY, 42A MORELAND AVENUE, PAPANUI, CHRISTCHURCH, 8053,
NEW ZEALAND
L0382 LYNCH, Mrs. AMANDA, 70 MAIN STREET, SWITHLAND, LOUGHBOROUGH,
LEICESTERSHIRE, LE12 8TH
M0720 MEADES, Mr. BARRIE, 56 DENMAN LANE, HUNCOTE, LEICESTER, LE9 3BS
M0721 MIRFIELD, MR. BOB & Mrs. MARGARET, 20 RADFORD DRIVE, LEICESTER,
LE3 3DR
N0204 NOON, Mr. MICHAEL, 6 De LISLE COURT, LOUGHBOROUGH, LEICESTERSHIRE,
LE11 4PP
P0603 PENNY, Mrs. KATHLEEN BERYL, 6 HUMBERSTONE DRIVE, LEICESTER, LE5 0RA
R0414 REDSHAW, Mr. JOHN, 25 CHATER ROAD, OAKHAM, RUTLAND, LE15 6RY
R0415 RAWSTHORNE, Mrs. BETTY MAY, 205 KINGSWAY, BRAUNSTON TOWN,
LEICESTER, LE3 2PP
R0416 ROENISH, ROWAN, 8 STAUGHTON DRIVE NORTH, LEICESTER, LE5 5BU
R0417 RICHARDS, Mrs. JUNE B & Mr. JOHN S, 77 COOMBE RISE, OADBY, LEICESTER,
LE2 5TU
S1001 SMITH, Miss DIANE MARILYN, 17 WINCHESTER ROAD, COUNTESTHORPE,
LEICESTERSHIRE, LE8 5PN
S1002 SHUTER, Mr. IAN, 114 TURNER DRIVE, NOVATO, CA 94949, U.S.A.
S1003 STOKES, Mr JOHN RICHARD& Mrs. RACHEL, 5 KENMORE DRIVE, WOODHALL SPA,
LINCOLNSHIRE, LN10 6BB
S1004 SMART, Mrs. SHEILA, WHITE COTTAGE, 18 INGARSBY LANE,
HOUGHTON ON THE HILL, LEICESTERSHIRE, LE7 9JJ
W0873 WITHERS, Mr. BRIAN RICHARD,
11 WILLOW LANE, CRANWELL VILLAGE,
SLEAFORD, LINCOLNSHIRE, NG34 8DQ
W0874 WHITE, Mrs. MARJORIE, P.O.BOX 138, BOBCAYGEON, ONTARIO, K0M 1A0,
CANADA
W0875 WILLOTT, JUSTINA, THE WILLOWS, 42 GYNSILL LANE, ANSTEY,
LEICESTERSHIRE, LE7 7AG
WELCOME BACK The following have re-joined the Society
B1219 BROTHERHOOD, Mr. GARELL GILBERT, 17 BALDWIN CLOSE, FOREST TOWN,
MANSFIELD, NOTTINGHAMSHIRE, NG19 0LR
D0049 LEWIS, Mrs. WENDY, 95 RUSKIN AVENUE, LONG EATON, NOTTINGHAMSHIRE,
NG10 3HK
H0640 HAMMOND, Mrs. LESLEY, 71 HOLMFIELD ROAD, LEICESTER , LE2 1SF
K0132 KILLINGLEY, MS DAPHNE ELIZABETH, 11 BRAMLEY ROAD, LEICESTER, LE3 9DA
W0691 WILKINSON , Mrs. BARBARA TAYLOR, 6 MARYLEBONE DRIVE, LUTTERWORTH,
LEICESTERSHIRE, LE17 4DL
W0772 WORRAD, Mrs. CAROL MARY, 53 FOSSWAY, SYSTON, LEICESTERSHIRE, LE7 1NF
W0833 WESTLAND, Mrs. JANICE, 4 HAILEBURY AVENUE, ASHBY-DE-LA-ZOUCH,
LEICESTERSHIRE, LE65 2SE
Contact addresses for additional Members Surname Interests
This list should be used in conjunction with the New Members Listing.
Only Members who have accepted the DPA statement are included in this list.
B1267 BONNETT, Mr. JOHN, BRYN CERYST, PENTRE HILL, FLINT MOUNTAIN,
FLINTSHIRE,
CH6 5QN
C0759 CROSS, Mr. FREDERICK WILLIAM, OAKWOOD, MILL LANE, LEVERINGTON,
WISBEACH, CAMBRIDGESHIRE, PE13 5JP
D0418 DAVIS, Mr. MICHAEL, 69 WESTBOURNE PARK, BOURNE, LINCOLNSHIRE,
PE10 9QS
G0055 GEESON, Dr. ANTHONY J. NIGHTINGALE HOUSE, KINGS COURT,
131 KINGS ACRE ROAD, HEREFORD, HR4 0SP
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R0155 ROBERTS, Mr. ANDREW, 14, MILL CLOSE SHEPSHED, LEICESTERSHIRE, LE12 9UA
T0420 THORPE, Mr. DENNIS, 22 BRADGATE CLOSE, THURNBY, LEICESTER, LE7 9NP
MEMBER’S INTERESTS
Any members who did not sign the DPA statement on their application/renewal form, has not had
their interests included in the listing below, or in the address listings
Interests only appear once in the journal, minor changes and repeat requests will not
be printed, they will only appear on the web site listing.
Contact addresses for there interests are listed in the journal.
Contact address for queries can be found inside the front cover of the journal.
E mail addresses can be supplied on request
SURNAME
AREA & DATES
MEMBER NO:
ALCOCK
GREYSTOKE, CUMBRIA, 18th CENT
A0348
AVINS
LEICESTERSHIRE, ANY
A0349
BARRAS
GLASGOW, SCOTLAND, 1750 - 1850
F0356
BARRAS
DUNDEE, SCOTLAND, 1750 - 1850
F0356
BATES
BROUGHTON ASTLEY, LEICESTERSHIRE
W0874
BODYCOTE
LEICESTER, ANY
W0873
BONNETT
BARROW UPON SOAR, LEICESTERSHIRE, 1820 - 1840
B1267
BONNETT
LEICESTER, 1840 - 1900
B1267
BONNETT
HINCKLEY, LEICESTERSHIRE, 1900 - 1940
B1267
CAULCOTT
LEICESTER
M0720
CHAMBERLAIN
BURLEY, RUTLAND, PRE 1852
R0414
CHAMBERLAIN
EMPINGHAM, RUTLAND, PRE 1852
R0414
CROSS
LEICESTERSHIRE, 1960's
C0827
CROSSBOLT
NOTTINGHAMSHIRE, PRE 1800
B1278
DALE
LEICESTER, ANY
D0427
DRAYCOTT
NEWCASTLE UNDER LYME, STAFFORDSHIRE, 19th C
A0348
FARMER
BELTON , LEICESTERSHIRE, PRE 1870
R0155
FITTON
LITTLE HEATON, LANCASHIRE, 1750 - 1850
F0356
GEESIN
CROXTON KERRIAL, LEICESTERSHIRE, 1650 - 1750
G0055
GEESIN
GARTHORPE, LEICESTERSHIRE, 1600 - 1850
G0055
GESSIN
BUCKMASTER, LEICESTERSHIRE, 1650 - 1850
G0055
GODDARD
LEICESTER, 1910 - 1970
I0057
GONTY
St NICHOLAS, LEICESTER, 1861 - 1937
G0551
GREEN
FOLESHILL, WARKICKSHIRE, 1830 - 1900
B1273
GREEN
LEICESTER, ANY
W0873
HALLS
LEICESTERSHIRE, 1700+
D0418
HALLS
NORFOLK, 1700+
D0418
HILL
LEICESTERSHIRE, ANY
H0966
HODGES
HINCKLEY, LEICESTERSHIRE, 1776 - 1900
B1273
HOLT
LANCASHIRE, 1750 - 1850
F0356
HOYLE
HASLINGDEN, LANCASHIRE, ANY
S1004
ISSITT
NOTTINGHAMSHIRE, 1900+
I0057
ISSITT
LEICESTERSHIRE, 1900+
I0057
JORDAN
ENDERBY, LEICESTERSHIRE, 1887 - 1982
K0264
KEABLE
LEICESTERSHIRE, ANY
K0265
LAMBERT
STREWSTERN, LEICESTERSHIRE, 1760's
B1277
LEATHERLAND
BROUGHTON ASTLEY, LEICESTERSHIRE
W0874
LEWIN
LEICESTERSHIRE
R0415
LEWIS
LEICESTERSHIRE, ANY
A0349
MADDOCK
STAFFORDSHIRE, 1880 - 1960
S1004
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MANSFIELD
LEICESTERSHIRE, ANY
McNAMARRA
St MARTIN, LEICESTER, 1855 - 1929
MEADES
LEICESTER, 1888
MEAKIN
LEICESTERSHIRE, ANY
MORETON
LEICESTER, ANY
MUNTON
EMPINGHAM, RUTLAND, 1797 - 1882
MUNTON
OAKHAM, RUTLAND, 1797 - 1882
NEWBOLD
BELTON, LEICESTERSHIRE, ANY
NEWTON
LEICESTERSHIRE, ANY
NORTH
SEAGRAVE, LEICESTERSHIRE, 1800 - 1810
PARTRIDGE
TUGBY, LEICESTERSHIRE, 1755 - 1820
PEET
LEICESTERSHIRE, 1880+
PEET
STAFFORDSHIRE, 1880+
POLLARD
QUORN, LEICESTERSHIRE, 1812 - 1880
POTTER
LEICESTERSHIRE, ANY
POWDRILL
BREEDON, LEICESTERSHIRE, PRE 1880
PRENTICE
LEICESTER, ANY
READ
WARWICKSHIRE, 19th CENT
REDFERN KIRKLAND LEICESTERSHIRE, ANY
ROBERTS
CUBLEY, DERBYSHIRE, PRE 1850
SHEPPARD
NOTTINGHAMSHIRE, PRE 1800
SMART
LEICESTERSHIRE, 1880+
SMART
LINCOLNSHIRE, 1880+
SMITH
EAST NORTON, LEICESTERSHIRE
SPENCE
ARNESBY, LEICESTERSHIRE, ANY
STEVENSON
MEDBOURNE, LEICESTERSHIRE, 1786 - 1849
STOKES
LANGHAM, RUTLAND, 1682 - 1733
STOKES
MANTON BURNLEY, RUTLAND, 1733
STRETTON
NARBOROUGH, LEICESTERSHIRE, ANY
TAYLOR
LEICESTERSHIRE
THORNTON
SOUTH LEICESTERSHIRE, ANY
THORPE
LANGHAM, RUTLAND, 1628 - 1795
THORPE
WHISSENDINE, RUTLAND, 1802 - 1946
THORPE
RUTLAND, 1575 - 1678
TODD
LEICESTERSHIRE, 19th CENT
TOMLIN
BROUGHTON ASTLEY, LEICESTERSHIRE, 1824 - 1849
TOWERS
HINCKLEY , LEICESTERSHIRE, 1751 - 1900
VOYCE
LEICESTERSHIRE, 1886
WHISTON
LEICESTERSHIRE, 1750+
WHISTON
CANADA, 1750+
WHITE
BROUGHTON ASTLEY, LEICESTERSHIRE, 1796+
WITHERS
St MARGARETS, LEICESTER, ANY
R0155
G0551
M0720
A0349
D0427
R0414
R0414
R0155
H0966
B1267
K0264
S1004
S1004
K0264
K0265
R0155
B1275
A0348
A0349
R0155
B1278
S1004
S1004
W0874
B1275
K0264
S1003
S1003
W0873
R0415
C0759
T0420
T0420
T0420
A0348
W0874
B1273
H0966
D0418
D0418
W0874
W0873
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