The 12th OECD-NBS Workshop on National Accounts Research on Real Value-added Measure of the Finance Industry in China (LU Feng, NBS) Comments on paper by Roger Jullion, Statistics Canada October 2008 Measuring output in the Finance Industry 2 Evolution of international standards NBS estimates of nominal output NBS estimates of real output Method used at Statistics Canada Suggestions for further development Statistics Canada • Statistique Canada 2016-07-27 Banking industry Measuring nominal output and value added at NBS • Value added as sum of incomes from production • Output composed of net interest receivable + net inter-bank transactions receivable + other bank output • Intermediate inputs derived residually 3 Statistics Canada • Statistique Canada 2016-07-27 Banking industry Real output estimates • Each of the three output components deflated with loan rates, deposit rates, offered rates and CPI • There may be variations in the loan and deposit terms that could affect the deflator • NBS could consider weighting the various terms 4 Statistics Canada • Statistique Canada 2016-07-27 Banking industry Method used at Statistics Canada • FISIM estimated as interest receivable less interest payable • Reference rate is chosen as the mid-point between the deposit rate and the lending rate • Allocation of FISIM between depositors and lenders is based on loan and deposit levels and the reference rate • Allocation over sectors is based on asset and liability levels from the balance sheet accounts • Real output is based on the growth of assets and liabilities deflated with the overall CPI 5 Statistics Canada • Statistique Canada 2016-07-27 Banking industry Suggestions for further development • Research the reference rate approach • Examine the volume of assets and liabilities approach to project real banking output • Look into whether transactions data are available for the various banking outputs e.g. number of ATM transactions, number of loans, etc. 6 Statistics Canada • Statistique Canada 2016-07-27 Insurance industry Measuring nominal output at NBS • Premiums less claims • Premium supplements??? SNA 2008…use of expected claims • Catastrophic events create volatility in claims and therefore volatility in insurance output • Use of expected claims results in smoother series which is more reasonable 7 Statistics Canada • Statistique Canada 2016-07-27 Insurance industry Real output estimates • NBS using CPI and IPI as a deflator • NBS could consider using deflated premiums Methods used at Statistics Canada • Premiums earned + premium supplements – claims due • Real output based on deflated premiums for non-life insurance • Number of persons insured and deflated assets are used as a volume projector for life insurance 8 Statistics Canada • Statistique Canada 2016-07-27 Insurance industry Suggestions for further development • Are premium supplements included in nominal output? • Consider using deflated premiums • Examine the expected claims approach as suggested by SNA 2008 9 Statistics Canada • Statistique Canada 2016-07-27 Securities industry 10 Measuring nominal output at NBS Real output estimates Methods used at Statistics Canada Suggestions for further development Statistics Canada • Statistique Canada 2016-07-27