IETF Bridge WG Transition
to IEEE 802.1 WG
Dave Harrington
Dan Romascanu
Vision Statement
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Improve timeliness and effectiveness of
standard MIB module development
Distribute the editing/publishing work load
Transition MIB module development to the
content experts
Improve cross-SDO standardization of
management
Bridge/802.1 Transition Goals
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MIB modules edited by the 802.1 editors
MIB modules available when 802.1
technology available
802.1 experts consider device, network and
service mgmt needs
MIB modules developed by content experts
Improve IETF/IEEE technology sharing
Today’s Situation
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Bridge MIB modules years behind approved
802.1 technologies
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802.1s (2002) – no standard MIB module
802.1t (2001) – IETF in progress (2004)
802.1u (2001) – IETF in progress (2004)
802.1v (2001) – IETF in progress (2004)
802.1w (2001) – IETF in progress (2004)
802.1x (2001) – including MIB module (2001)
802.1AB (~2004) – including MIB module (~2004)
Today’s Situation
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New work not being accepted in Bridge WG
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Waiting for existing work to be completed
802.1s MIB module and other MIB modules not
being started on a timely basis in IETF; cannot
complete on a timely basis
How Did We Get Here?
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Early 90s
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Mid 90s
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IETF NM experts write standard MIB modules
Wide-spread deployment of MIB and SNMP for IP
management
IESG: protocol WGs should write own MIB
modules
IEEE: protocol-independent management objects
Late 90s
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data/voice convergence
Increased cross-SDO liaison activities
How Did We Get Here?
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Early 00s
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Dramatic increase in IETF standard MIB modules
to manage non-IETF technologies
Mid 00s
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SDOs for non-IETF technologies encouraged to
write their own MIB modules
IETF willing to help MIB module development via
mib-review-guidelines, MIB design advice, MIB
Doctor reviews, etc. O&M area working to clarify
the nature and amount of help we can provide.
Available Options
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Bridge WG continues
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Pro - SNMP experts involved in designs
Con - Unsatisfactory MIB module timeliness
Con - Personnel must attend both IETF and IEEE to
understand technology to do timely MIB modules
802.1 WG takes on 802.1 mibs
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Pro - IEEE process promotes completion
Pro - Timely delivery of MIB modules
Pro – Personnel only need attend IEEE meetings
Pro - IETF assists with MIB module design advice, informal
MIB Doctor reviews, etc.
Status Summary
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Transition has been discussed by IEEE and
IETF leaders
Transition is proceeding smoothly
802.1 transition may take a year
MIB editors must attend IEEE meetings
MIB editors need to learn IEEE style, starting
projects, voting rules, etc.
Progress
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Jan2004 – IEEE Interim Meeting
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Bernard Aboba (IAB/IEEE liaison), Bert Wijnen (IETF Area
Director), Dave Harrington (Bridge EG co-chair), Dan
Romascanu (Bridge and Hubmib co-chair) meet with IEEE
802 Executive Committee and 802.x chairs to discuss
cross-SDO cooperation
Agreement to
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appoint “default” liaisons in 802 and IETF
Cross-organization review of new work
Bridge MIB WG efforts will transition to 802.1 (pilot)
IETF MIB Doctors will provide review
Progress
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Technical Advisor and MIB Doctor advice accepted
in 802.1 WG
802.1 will develop management controls, with
SMIv2-compliant MIB module as an illustration
IEEE 802.1 MIB modules will be published in ASCII
format, free of charge, at
http://www.ieee802.org/1/pages/MIBS.html
MIB Doctor reviews done for 802.1AB (drafts 9, 10,
11) and 802.1AE documents
802.1AB and 802.1AE documents updated to match
IETF mib-review-guidelines (to a degree)
Progress
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New IEEE standards work will include the
corresponding MIB modules
Work on new MIB modules for existing IEEE
standards, and IEEE updates of existing IETF
MIB modules will require following IEEE PAR
process
802.1s MIB module proposals and 5-criteria
are now being considered for a PAR
Schedule
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Nov 04
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Early 05
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Publish RFC1493 update, RFC2674 update, RSTP-MIB
Bridge WG documents to Proposed Standard
IEEE publishes 802.1AB standard, with MIB module
Late 05
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IEEE publishes 802.1aa (802.1X update) with MIB module
IEEE publishes 802.1AE standard, with MIB module
IEEE publishes 802.1af standard, with MIB module