March 2016
doc.: IEEE 802.11-16-0247r1
PAR Review - Agenda and Meeting slides March 2016
Date: 2016-02-12
Authors:
Name
Affiliations
Address
Phone
Jon Rosdahl
Qualcomm
Technologies Inc.
10871 N 5750 W
Highland, UT 84003
+1-801-492-4023 jrosdahl@ieee.org
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Slide 1
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Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)
March 2016
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Abstract-Snapshot
Mar 13-18, 2016, Macao, China
• 802.1Qcr - Amendment: Asynchronous Traffic Shaping, PAR and CSD
• 802.3bs - Amendment: 200 Gb/s Ethernet and 400 Gb/s Ethernet, PAR
Modification and CSD Modification
• 802.3bt - Amendment: DTE Power via MDI over 4-Pair, PAR
Modification and CSD
• 802.3cc - Amendment: 25 Gb/s over Single-Mode Fiber: PAR and CSD
• 802.3cd - Amendment: 50 Gb/s Ethernet, 100 Gb/s Ethernet and 200 Gb/s
Ethernet Physical Layers; PAR and CSD
• 802.15.12 - Amendment: Upper Layer Interface (ULI), PAR and CSD
• 802.15.4v - Amendment: Usage of Regional Sub-GHz bands, PAR and
CSD
• 802.16s - Amendment: Air Interface for Broadband Wireless Access
Systems , PAR and CSD.
• Meeting times: Monday PM2, Tuesday AM2, Thursday AM2
Submission
Slide 2
Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)
March 2016
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PAR Review SC – March 2016
Chair: Jon Rosdahl
Draft Agenda:
Monday Agenda:
1.
2.
3.
4.
Welcome
Determine order of review
Review PARs/CSD posted for review this week.
Recess
Tuesday Agenda:
1.
2.
Complete review of PARs/CSD and post comments to 802 WGs
Recess
Thursday Agenda:
1.
2.
3.
Submission
Review Response to Comments
Prepare Report for 802.11 WG closing plenary
Adjourn
Slide 3
Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)
March 2016
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PAR Review Comments
Submission
Slide 4
Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)
March 2016
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802.1Qcr - Amendment: Asynchronous
Traffic Shaping, PAR and CSD
8.1 requires “(Item Number and Explanation)”
Either add the PAR “Item Number” that is missing
or delete the sentence” The core operation of the intended
mechanism on the data plane is described in
http://www.ieee802.org /1/files/public/docs2015/new-tsnspecht-ubs-queues-0521-v0.pdf.”
2.1 Title does not seem correct for an Amendment.
Expected to see “Amendment:” after the base standard
title followed by the amendment title.
Submission
Slide 5
Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)
March 2016
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802.1Qcr - Amendment: Asynchronous
Traffic Shaping, PAR and CSD
CSD 1.2 5c: Need to expand TSN for first use.
Submission
Slide 6
Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)
March 2016
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802.3bs - Amendment: 200 Gb/s Ethernet and 400
Gb/s Ethernet, PAR Modification and CSD
Modification
PAR – No comment/concern
CSD – No comments or concerns.
Submission
Slide 7
Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)
March 2016
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802.3bt - Amendment: DTE Power via MDI over
4-Pair, PAR Modification and CSD
PAR – No Comment/Concern
CSD – New CSD Format approved by 802, would prefer
update to this nominal slide deck to readily validate the
correct set of CSD criteria. Note that the order of the
CSD does not match this format.
Economic Feasibility: Who’s Experience” the experience”
Submission
Slide 8
Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)
March 2016
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802.3cc - Amendment: 25 Gb/s over SingleMode Fiber: PAR and CSD
PAR: in section 8.1, it is missing the standards cited in 5.2
Note From NesCom Conventions #5. “…For references to other
standards within the Scope and Purpose fields, the number, title,
date (if appropriate), and source of the referenced standards shall
be listed in the Additional Explanatory Notes field. “
Add full titles for “IEEE Std 802.3-2015 as amended by the IEEE
P802.3by”
CSD: The Technical Feasibility mentions a standard for
25 Gbps and yet the Distinct Identity mentions there is
no other standard. Please clarify.
Submission
Slide 9
Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)
March 2016
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802.3cd - Amendment: 50 Gb/s Ethernet, 100
Gb/s Ethernet and 200 Gb/s Ethernet Physical
Layers; PAR and CSD
PAR – No Comment or Concern
CSD – No comments or concern
Submission
Slide 10
Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)
March 2016
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802.15.12 - Amendment: Upper Layer
Interface (ULI), PAR and CSD
5.2 Scope:
• A consistent reference to “IEEE 802.15.4 MAC” should be made. The
third instance of IEEE 802.15.4 should be IEEE 802.15.4 MAC.
• Expand 6TiSCH in first use.
5.4 Purpose:
• The purpose is not clear -it seams to refer to changes required for itself
• Suggested replacement:
“This standard defines an upper layer interface to support and
harmonize the IEEE 802.15.4 ancillary functionality, e.g.
fragmentation, protocol differentiation and configuration.”
Submission
Slide 11
Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)
March 2016
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802.15.12 - Amendment: Upper Layer
Interface (ULI), PAR and CSD
5.4 Need:
The need statement is overstated. Suggest replace with
“As IEEE 802.15.4 devices have become widely deployed,
deficiencies in IEEE Std 802.15.4 became apparent as an expanding
set of applications were addressed. To address these deficiencies
numerous L2+ protocols were independently developed to interface
to the IEEE 802.15.4 MAC sublayer. These L2+ protocols, such as
KMP, L2R, 6TOP, and network layer abstraction, often replicate
ancillary functionality, e.g. fragmentation and protocol
differentiation, in an inconsistent and often incompatible manner.”
Submission
Slide 12
Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)
March 2016
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802.15.12 - Amendment: Upper Layer
Interface (ULI), PAR and CSD
8.1 This section is for explanatory text, not expanded text from the
PAR sections. Suggest that 8.1 be deleted, and that the titles of the
cited standards be listed: i.e. “IEEE 802.15.4”
Note: From NesCom Conventions #5. “…For references to other
standards within the Scope and Purpose fields, the number, title,
date (if appropriate), and source of the referenced standards shall
be listed in the Additional Explanatory Notes field. “
Add full titles for IEEE 802.15.4
5.2 Scope: “KMP” should be “KMPs”
CSD: No comments or concerns.
Submission
Slide 13
Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)
March 2016
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802.15.4v - Amendment: Usage of Regional SubGHz bands, PAR and CSD
2.1 Title: delete “Approved Draft”
Suggested title replacement: “Standard for Low-Rate
Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs) Amendment:
Enabling/updating the use of Regional Sub-GHz bands”
5.2.b Scope of the project: delete “PHY clauses”
CSD – No comments or concerns
Submission
Slide 14
Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)
March 2016
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802.16s - Amendment: Air Interface for
Broadband Wireless Access Systems , PAR and CSD.
2.1 Title: Replace “ for” with “:”
Suggested Title: “Standard for Air Interface for
Broadband Wireless Access Systems – Amendment:
Fixed and Mobile Wireless Access in Channel
Bandwidth up to 1.25 MHz”
4.2/4.3: The Date for 4.2 seems aggressive, and the
minimum time between these two dates should be at
least 6 months.
3.3 indicates Joint Sponsorship – 7.2 says that no joint
development will be done. Then why the Joint
Sponsorship?
Submission
Slide 15
Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)
March 2016
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802.16s - Amendment: Air Interface for
Broadband Wireless Access Systems , PAR and CSD.
5.3 – 802.16-2016 does not exist. Is this trying to suggest a
new revision project?
CSD – No comment
Submission
Slide 16
Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)
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Responses From 802 WGs
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Slide 17
Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)
March 2016
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References
IEEE 802 PARs Under consideration Webpage:
http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/PARs.shtml
Submission
Slide 18
Jon Rosdahl, (Qualcomm)