Mt. San Antonio College
Minutes
Equivalency Committee
June 2, 2014
3:30 – 5:00 pm
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Dan Smith, Chair
Lida Anderson
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Luisa Howell
Elaine Emanuel
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Michelle Johnson
Richard McGowan-NC
Item/Comments/Discussion
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Matt Judd – Management
X Nancy Gordien – Human Res.
Outcome
Approval of Committee Minutes
April 28, 2014
The minutes were updated and approved
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Information
There were no information items.
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Items for Action/Discussion
Earth Science - Proposal
The committee reviewed the equivalency, and asked for several changes:
1. Two disciplines are listed at the top of the page. Only one can be
listed. An alternative can be to designate Earth Science as the
equivalency required for Geology courses.
2. Per the language in paragraph C.3 of AP 7211 after the first paragraph
add the word “OR,” then “A Bachelor’s degree in the discipline or a
related discipline AND” before “Proof of enrollment in Geology or Earth
Science . . . “
3. The second paragraph does not conform to the language in AP 7211,
since “significant progress” has been redefined.
4. In the third paragraph the physical sciences need to be better defined.
Would this include Physics? What would be excluded?
5. The rationale needs to be expanded upon and changed, since the
equivalency submitted does differ from the one that expired in
December 2013. Some disciplines were deleted from the first
paragraph, while others were added to the third paragraph. In
addition, the title is different.
The committee would ask that the department align the new equivalency with
the new requirements in AP 7211 and resubmit it in fall.
Review of Equivalency Determination
Supplemental form - continued
The need to revise not only the supplemental form but also the brochure was
discussed further, with the objectives of
1) clearly informing applicants under what conditions they would need to use
the form;
2) that the form not duplicate information provided elsewhere in the application
process.
The final recommendations are as follows:
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3.
Suggested changes to the brochure included:
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After Required Qualifications place the following: “If your degree title
is not one of those listed, please explain how/why your degree is
equivalent, using the Equivalency Determination Supplemental Form.”
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Indicate Minimum Qualifications and Equivalency.
Suggested changes to the Equivalency Determination Supplemental Form
included:
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At the end of the first sentence of question #1 add the words “as
indicated in the job posting.”
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Delete last sentence of question #1, “Transcripts must be attached.”
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Remove question #3
Suggested changes to the application included:
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Add “Are you applying under the Equivalency?”
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Add “If you have a degree or experience qualifications equivalent to
those listed above, please submit the Equivalency Determination
Supplemental form” to explain how you meet the equivalency.”
The committee directed the Chair, Dan Smith, to communicate with Cynthia
Hoover in order to clarify the need to move applications forward that might
meet the equivalency, but do not have an Equivalency form attached.
The committee also asked if these elements might be integrated into an
interactive online application.
2014-15 Meeting dates:
The meeting dates were approved.
Sept. 22, Oct. 27, Nov. 24, March 23, April 27,
June 1
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Future Agenda Items
2013/14
Meetings:
3:30-5:00—4th Monday
None designated.
2013
September 23
October 28
November 25
2014
March 24
April 28
June 2
Note:
Committee meets June 2
due to the 4th Monday in
May being Memorial Day.