Backcountry Skiing - Yellowstone National Park
Roger Zimmerman/Lynne Zimmerman
SUMMARY OF TRIP INFORMATION
Backcountry Skiing - Yellowstone National Park
Leader Roger Zimmerman
Co-leader Lynne Zimmerman
Yellowstone National Park, Wyoming
Jan 24 to Feb 2, 2013
Total # of days 10
Hiking
Downhill skiing
Kayaking
Title of trip
Leadership
Location(s)
Dates
Type of trip
check all that apply
Backpacking
Cultural
Road biking
Nordic ski
Mountain biking
Snorkeling
Other – please describe
Number of participants
(excluding leaders)
Advertised cost
Airfare range if not included
Do you wish to have your trip
listed online before it is
published in The Outdoors?
Smaller trips and leader
subsidization
Max 12
Min 12
$ 3,000.00
Does it include airfare? Yes
No
$
Yes
No If yes, please list the approximate month (max is one year in
advance of trip)
as soon as possible
Is this proposal for a small group trip – i.e., less than 14 participants and 2
leaders or 7 participants and 1 leader? Yes
No
If yes, why is a small group proposed? snow vehicle capacity, as in previous years
If a participant fee increase of more than 15% is proposed, please explain why? as
above
LEADER AND CO-LEADER INFORMATION
Trip one
Trip two
Trip three
Other related trip experience
Roger Zimmerman
14 Pleasant Ave, Portland, ME 04103
zimozimmy@yahoo.com
Home 207-824-3763
Work 207-775-1221
WFA
AWFA
WFR
Expiration: Jan 2015
CPR
BLS
Expiration: Jan 2014
Please list the last three longer (5+ day) trips you have led for the AMC including
destination, type of trip, dates and number of participants. Feel free to list additional
trips you have led, particularly if they demonstrate experience related to the trip you
are proposing.
Yellowstone X-C 2012 12
Yellowstone X-C 2006 12
Yellowstone X-C 2005 12
AMC trips to Alaska, Dolomites, Austria
Co-leader name
Lynne Zimmerman
Leader name
Leader address
Leader email
Leader phone
Wilderness first aid training
CPR training
Prior leading experience

To lead a major excursion you must have current CPR and WFA at the time of your trip (or AWFA for all backcountry
trips). If you do not have the required level of certification at the time you submit your proposal or it will expire before
the date of your trip, you will need to make arrangements to recertify in a timely manner.
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Roger Zimmerman/Lynne Zimmerman
Backcountry Skiing - Yellowstone National Park
Co-leader address
Co-leader email
Co-leader phone
Wilderness first aid training*
CPR training*
Prior leading experience
Trip one
Trip two
Trip three
Other related trip experience
14 Pleasant Ave, Portland, ME 04103
lynnesz@yahoo.com
Home 207-824-3763
Work 207-595-0780 cell
WFA
AWFA
WFR
Expiration: May 2013
CPR
BLS
Expiration: 2012
If you are a new co-leader you must submit an application to be a major excursions
leader or co-leader prior to submitting this application.
Explore Alaska hiking 2010 16 leader
Yellowstone X-C 2008 12 co-leader
Yellowstone X-C 2006 12 co-leader
AMC trips to Switzerland, Dolomites, Canada
Scouting
Have either of you led this trip
before or traveled to this
area?
Languages
Does either the co-leader or
leader speak the local
language?
Couples
Do the leader and co-leader
have a significant personal
relationship?
Private trips
Do either of you lead trips that
are private - not sponsored by
the AMC?
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below:
Executive summary
Please provide a brief
description of the trip and the
activities planned.
Accommodations
Please describe your plan for
accommodation(s)
Meals
Please describe your plan for
providing meals
Permits or permissions
Does the trip require special
permits or permissions?
(required on many U.S.
federal lands and national
parks)
Backcountry skiing in Yellowstone National Park. Park Museum and Visitor's Center.
Naturalist lectures.
Special equipment
Does the trip require special
equipment?
Special experience
Does the trip require special
skills on the part of the
participant?
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below what type of equipment and how you
will ensure that people know how to use it:
Backcountry ski equipment. Questionnaire is part of application.
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below what type of experience? Also describe
how you will ensure that the participant has this experience?
Previous cross-country ski experience. Lessons offered in Yellowstone, Roger is
Certified PSIA Nordic Instructor level III.
Co-leader: Yes
No
Leader: Yes
No
Not applicable:
Yes
No
If yes, please list who has agreed to be your back-up in case one or
both of you need to drop out. This is required for approval!
Goeke
Yes
No
If yes, please note that you cannot advertise AMC and private trips
together unless there is a clear distinction between the two in any marketing
materials you send out.
LOGISTICAL DETAILS OF TRIP
Revised October 2009
Double occupancy rooms at Mammoth Hotel and Old Faithful Cabins
breakfast and dinner at hotels. Participants provide their own lunches.
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below what you will need to do to obtain them:
permits as temporary guides will be obtained from the National Park Service
If no, please describe the process you went through to find out that they were not
required:
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Pre-trip activities
Do you plan to get your group
together before the trip for an
activity or social event?
Conservation, education and
recreation
How will this major excursion
meet the mission of the AMC?
www.outdoors.org/about/
mission.cfm
Yes
No
If yes, please describe below what you will do:
Outstanding opportunities for wildlife observation, learning about thermal areas,
geology, winter ecology, snow conditions.
TOUR OPERATOR AND GUIDE SERVICE INFORMATION
Will this trip require a tour
operator or guide service
during part, or the entire
trip?
Name of tour operator/guide
service
Tour operator website
Safety record
Please provide information
about their safety record.
Insurance
Do they have liability
insurance?
Emergency response
Please describe the outfitters’
response plan in the case of an
emergency.
Yes
No
Please describe their services. If you are using a tour operator for the entire trip,
please describe why you will be using them rather than doing this trip on your own:
1 guide for 1 day in Canyon area..
Xanterra Ski Shop
no known problems
Liability? Yes
No yes
Are they willing to list AMC as an
additional insured?
call National Park Service
Maximum amt: $
Yes
No
RISK ASSESSMENT
Please assess the risks and hazards of your trip. Carefully consider each area of risk and how it may affect your trip.
Devise a plan to prevent each hazard and to respond to it if it becomes necessary. Please be very specific for each section
if applicable.
Trail conditions, river crossings, weather, wildlife (bears, snakes, etc.)
Climate/terrain
Potential hazards
hardpack snow, ice [unlikely], cold, avalanche
Response
appropriate clothing and equipment, instruction, avalanche evaluation,. Roger has
Certification level I from Canada Avalanche Assoc. and level III from American
Avalanche Institute.
Regarding avalanche risk, we charter a snow coach for a morning ski in the Canyon and
an afternoon ski in the Washburn Hills area. We ski on a snow covered road to a high
pass, roughly 2 miles, and return the same way. Those with desire and skills can ski
back with intermittent stops on steep slopes for tele skiing. The road is bordered at
points by steep slopes on the upper side of the road and lower angle on the lower side.
At the beginning of the road, in between the AM and PM portions of this day, the group
eats lunch in the snow coach. I have gone ahead to do snow pack analysis. The major
pit dug is surface to ground; 2-3 stability tests are carried out. In addition I have
reviewed the most recent avalanche bulletins, from the local avalanche center regarding
the Gallatin and Washburn ranges, obtained information on recent ski trips in the area
from Xanterra [facilities management] ski shop personnel, consulted with the snow
rangers if they are available, and queried local skiers if they are around. Following my
analysis in the field, combined with this other information, I make a decision regarding
whether or not we will undertake the Washburn portion of the trip. I’ve led the trip for
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Backcountry Skiing - Yellowstone National Park
Foreign Country
Potential hazards
Response
Transportation
Potential hazards
Response
Participants
Potential hazards
Response
Other
Potential hazards
Response
Roger Zimmerman/Lynne Zimmerman
close to 25 years, and during this time I have called off this portion of the trip, I think, on
two occasions; both times were due to my judgment call regarding snow pack stability
and recent snowfall.
Two people carry equipment pertaining to this aspect of the trip, myself and the Xanterra
guide who assists me. We carry shovels, and I have a snow saw and probe [for
penetration analysis]. Group participants do not have shovels, probes, or beacons, nor
are they appropriately trained in the use of such [such training should require sustained,
regular, and detailed practice].
Both the other guide and myself have, individually, decades of experience.
Political concerns, crime, language translation, terrorism
Road conditions, drivers, insurance
Snow coach gets stuck or breaks down.
Drivers are professionally trained, have redio contact, repair service available.
Level of fitness, screening concerns, experience with equipment or activity
Should be fit, regular exercise, some prior ski experience
Questions on trip application, lessons offered.
Conditions unique to this type of trip
Wildlife contact
Precautions covered in meeting
EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN
Please describe your plans for dealing with emergencies. Use as much detail as possible, and list any special
communications equipment you may need to ensure the safety of your participants. DO NOT LEAVE THIS SECTION
BLANK
Skiing is done in remote ares, emergency services are provided by Park Rangers on
Emergency communication
Phone contacts, language,
snowmobiles. Snow vehicles have redios, leaders have cell phones..
documentation, distance from
emergency services
We carry emergency first aid and survival equipment. We have cell phones, may not
Emergency equipment
What sort of emergency first
have service in all places, and 2 way radios.
aid or communication
equipment (satellite phone,
two-way radios) do you plan
to use, if any?
Contact National Park Service and arrange for evacuation with them by snowmobile,
Evacuation
Please describe your plan for
snow coach or helicopter if necessary.
evacuation from the
backcountry location if
applicable?
There is a Clinic at Mammoth, some Rangers are WEMTs or WFRs. Roger is WFR.
Medical care
Please describe the medical
Contact through Group Reservations 307-344-5293.
care available in the area(s)
where you will be traveling
and list names and telephone
numbers for these facilities.
COST AND BUDGET DETAILS
Foreign currencies
For int’l trips list each foreign
currency, the current $US
dollar exchange rate and what
contingencies you have if that
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Backcountry Skiing - Yellowstone National Park
rate changes. If a tour
operator or agent is being
used, what currency is the
agent to be paid in?
Deposits
What deposits will be required
by airlines, hotels, tour
operators, etc., and when?
Refunds
What is the latest date you can
cancel and still receive a full
refund?
Participant deposit
What are the initial deposit
and your schedule of
payments?
Cancellation policy
What will your cancellation
policy be for the participants?
Minimum numbers
Will you still run the trip if you
do not get the minimum
number?
Reference web links:
MEC Home Page:
Forms:
Deadlines:
E-Mail Addresses:
Club House:
MEC Chair:
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Facilities 25% by summer.
6 weeks prior to trip start date.
$100. non refundable deposit
Deposit of $100. non refundable. Partial refund up to 6 weeks prior to trip, of money not
already spent or commited to be spent. Cancellations will not be allowed to increase the
cost to trip leaders or other trip members. Airline tickets ,once bought, belong to the
individual.
Yes
No
If yes, please describe conditions:
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