KP: That’s what we needed to do, so I think if we just leave it there and then forget that it’s
there, we’ll be fine. But, we have about 8 questions, and we would like for any of you who want
to, and hopefully everybody, to make a comment about each question. And these questions are
both questions that talk about your interview, and then they also ask some questions about you.
So, let’s go ahead and get started if you guys are ready. Do you need to, or want to say anything?
Okay. Let’s do this. Number 1, what was the most important or memorable moment in your
interview?
2: For the woman that we interviewed-we interviewed together-she had talked about all her jobs
that she’d done over the years, especially during WWII. She had done welding and construction.
She manufactured pants for the troops. And she worked a wide-array of things.
KP: Was she in the military or she did it back home?
2: No, she did it back home, her husband3: Her husband was in the military
KP: Okay. That sounds interesting. Okay, somebody else?
5: Mine, at the very beginning, you know, you ask her when-how old she is-what year she was
born in. I knew that she was 97 when I was going to interview her, I knew that. When she said
her birthday is 1913, I think that’s when I realized, man, there’s so much history there. Like,
1913! That’s so long ago. You hear things, and you read in books about 1913 but, that’s-there’s
so many things that she went through, and just the different stages of our country and of the
history of the last 100 years that she has witnessed all of. So, I thought that was really cool, just
kind of-there’s so much here.
KP: Yeah. All the inventions and everything else, yeah. Okay. Jessica?
4: I think, just all the things that she experienced, I think, was kind of memorable. She talked
about how they lived in Monett at one time and the church that-the Christian church in Monett
started in her house in the living room and the Sunday school classes were in their bedrooms.
And that was kind of cool and just-the various trials, too, just talking to this lady and she told me
that she had a child that they lost very early on and just the things that she’d been through. Still
very strong and she was, like you said, lot of history.
KP: Yeah, yeah. Shyla, what about you?
1: The mission trips. Like, where they went or her husband’s job. Where they went with him, and
saw how they lived and how they experienced life.
KP: So she was a missionary for a while?
1: No, she just went on a lot of mission trips.
KP: Okay. Okay, number 2, what is your strongest childhood memory related to God or religion.
And this would be for you. What is your strongest childhood memory related to God or religion?
It might be your earliest, too. But you may not remember your earliest, but what is one childhood
memory of God or religion?
3: I think I would say that the strongest memory I have was-and probably the most important is
when I got saved. And I remember I was laying in my mom and dad’s floor in their bedroom and
I just started asking my mom all these questions about it, and so we just got to talking and I was
seven at the time and it just still seems like it was yesterday.
KP: Okay.
4: I think about church, the first thing that I think of is the clothes and getting dressed up in
dresses, and I remember running through the pews and all that type of stuff, and I just remember
it being a fun place. But conversation-wise about God, I have this memory of sitting in my
parent’s bedroom and, I think it was about bedtime and my dad started telling me-picked out his
favorite Bible story and read it to me and told me why, and we always went to church growing
up, but having those conversations about it didn’t necessarily occur all that often. So I just really
thought that was cool. Learning about what my dad liked and what his favorite story in the Bible
was.
2: I grew up in the church. The first memories are of running in between the chairs of the aisles
after church. My parents were always the last one there, because they talked so much.
((laughter)) It was always my best friend’s parents who they were talking to, so we had the run
of the church inside and out, we’d play hide-and-seek; we’d play for hours. Or it seemed like
hours, it was probably like 10 minutes. Everything in my early life was pretty much centered
around church and my best friend and all-most of my friends, we’d go three times a week for
Sunday school on Sundays and Wednesdays and whatever in between. So it’s always been a
major part of my life.
1: Church camp. I really like going there, because I get to see a lot of people I know and hear
their-how they’ve been doing in church.
KP: Okay.
5: I’d say my earliest memories are of people of Sunday school teachers, and [inaudible] and all
those things that we-that I did when I was younger, and just the people that I saw teaching and
that taught me-taught me about the Bible, but also taught me by an example that they set, and
what they did, and how they talked and how they lived and how they treated me. And so, some
of the my Sunday school teachers that I had and my parents’ friends that taught me in school and
youth group would probably be the thing that really sticks out to me about my religion and my
childhood.
KP: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, nobody’s asking me, and that’s good. But I will share one
quick story-this isn’t the only story, but I also have a lot of memories similar to some of those
you shared, but one outstanding one was going to my grandparents’ church on Easter. One
particular Easter, and I had my new Easter dress on, and I got too close to the wood burning
stove and my dress caught on fire. That was memorable.
((laughter))
KP: Okay, yeah, I was in flames so, I remember that. On fire. Exactly. Next question: what ways
do you think your religious life is different from the woman you interviewed?
2: For the woman that we interviewed, she had lived-seems like several lives before she began a
relationship with God. She knew about God; growing up she’d go to Sunday school, but her
parents didn’t go, she would walk and they’d always go to Sunday school and come back after
church. So it wasn’t part of her upbringing, it wasn’t part of her life. And it wasn’t until she had
children that she wanted them to be in church when she started attending. So the time in between
those two periods, it just seemed like she had lived so many other lives, living in so many
different states and so many different areas, and then after having all those experiences, chose
God. And chose this relationship. Whereas, I on the other hand, have always known God, and
grew up knowing God, and immediately it’s all I can think of. It’s the only way I can think of to
live a life, but now as I-something that I’ve learned is that there is-there’s a whole life-there’s a
world going on out there that you have to find your place in. And you can either do with God or
without God, so it’s kind of-I feel like it’s kind of flipped that I found God, and now-or I have
God, and now I need to find how to make that work in the world, where He’s not prevalent.
4: Yeah, I think similarly, the lady that I interviewed, like I grew up, you know, going to church
with my parents and my grandma because that was kind of the church my dad had grown up in
too. But she talked about how her family-her parents didn’t take her to church, because they
didn’t have clothes, she felt like they didn’t have the Sunday-best to wear, but her grandparents
would take her occasionally, like when she spent time with them, and so kind of along the same
lines that she didn’t necessarily, you know, those are her earliest memories-going to church with
her grandparents, but that wasn’t a consistent part of her childhood. Yet, she made-from what I
can tell, made that decision early on when she was on her own and married that that would be
the, you know, the thing that she would choose. And she talked a lot about searching for a church
and things like that, so kind of a little difference in her childhood.
5: I think, talking with Elizabeth, her upbringing was a lot like mine. Her parents took her to
church, and she was involved in church, and had that foundation from the very beginning. Which
is a lot like mine, but I’ve always had strong tendencies to be a leader in the group that I’m in,
and in church, and in youth group, and now I’ve always kind of been on the forefront, I guess,
and kind of out front. And she was the exact opposite. And partially, we talked a little bit in the
interview that partially that is because she likes to be in the background, but it was also just her
role to be in the background. As she grew up, as she got married and did those things that rather
than playing a role at the church, that she was more of a supporting role for those that were
playing a role at the church. And that, you know, she never taught a Sunday school class, she
never was on any committees, and never did any of that stuff, but she was a host, and so they
talked about missionaries that came to visit the church, they always stayed at her house. And
visitors that came to the church always came to her house on Sundays for lunch, and that she was
a hostess there, and that was her role rather than being-playing a role on Sunday mornings, or in
the church as the leader, and so, that’s a difference that I saw, and something that-I’ve always
just kind of been told “you need to lead, you need to step up, you need to do this, you need to be
out there,” but she was very content with being back behind the scenes.
KP: Thank you. Andrea, or Shyla?
1: I don’t know.
3: I think a lot about what Jake said, just she grew up not really going to church, her parents
didn’t take her and she-it was up to her to go. And I was brought up in church, we’d go every
Sunday. Everything we did, everywhere we went was usually a church function. So, and I think
what amazed me is one of the questions that I asked her was: while she was-when her husband
was in the military, and they were living in California or Illinois or wherever they were, she
never went to church, until they got here. And so I asked her if that ever affected her, now having
a spiritual backbone or any of that to kind of rely on, or any Christian friends, and she said, “I
had my husband, and he was a Christian, and we just kind of relied on each other, so it didn’t
really affect us.” And I look at the world today and even if you do have your partner, if we didn’t
have the friends at church, or the events at church, and it’d be really hard in today’s culture to
stay out and stay a strong Christian like we are, without that spiritual background-backbone that
we have here.
KP: Okay, good, thank you. Okay, the next question is: have you had a situation in life that
caused you to really think about your religious beliefs more deeply? What was that situation and
how did it affect the way you think about your religious beliefs?
5: I think college had a huge effect on my religious beliefs and I think for a lot of people it does,
but it was the first time that I wasn’t expected to go to church, and I didn’t have an accountability
of a family saying, “you have to go to church on Sunday mornings.” And so it was a very big
struggle, especially my freshman year, I wasn’t involved in religion; I wasn’t involved in
Christian Campus House. And did a lot of things kind of opposite of what I’d grown up as,
because I didn’t have the support, I guess, there. And it caused me, you know, it’s a time where
I’m glad that I went through it because it caused me to have to figure out for myself what I
believed, and how I wanted to live, and to figure it out, and to own my own faith, and not to be
just riding on the coattails of my family and my friends back home. And so, there was strength in
me, and when I went through the fire and I’m stronger now for that. It’s given me just a really
good sense of what I believe and why I believe it, and so I’m stronger doing that.
KP: Okay, thank you.
4: I don’t know. I don’t know if there’s one moment that I can look back and say it was this
instant. But probably just that transition from being in my parents’ house and once I could drive,
I kind of had the option of going to church or not, you know, because I was kind of my own
transportation, but making that transition from high school to college and really kind of figuring
out what I believed and, you know, for myself and I went to a Christian high school, and so that
helped some, too. Just kind of understanding the Bible and things a lot more, but that transition
of, you know, why am I really going to church, and am I going to church because I want to know
God better, or it’s just a social function, that kind of was what I think what I dealt with a lot
during college.
KP: Okay.
3: I think it’s the same thing for me. When-and I also had, like when I started driving, it was up
to me to go and you’re living at your parents’ house and they expect you to go to church, and
when you come to college, like Ryan said, there’s nobody here to tell you what to do and tell you
“you need to go to church.” And, I mean, I came down here and I had already had quite a few
friends that came to Missouri State, and a lot of people from my class came down here the same
year, and we all went to youth group together, we all went to church together, so we just kind of
stayed together and found a church and we all went to church together and we all-so I mean it
wasn’t very hard, but still, we were keeping each other accountable, instead of having to answer
to our parents at that time.
2: I’d say the most profound, for me, was-I think I was about 11 or 12, and I-every Saturday I
would go and help an older gentleman at our church lawn mow the church lot. He would do the
weed-eater and I would push the mower. And he was just this old man who was really nice and
he’d come pick me up and then drive me home and he gave me 10 dollars. It wasn’t worth the 3
hours of work, but, it was good to be serving. But, on the drives back home, it’d be a 10 minute
drive, he would tell me stories of his life, of the-and I had no idea and it really opened my eyes
what a 75 year old man could do in his life. And every story he had, he talked about how he
relied on Christ and how he applied his faith in all areas. He was in WWII. After WWII he went
and started a church in Japan. And I’m like, you’re the old man who plants tomatoes behind the
church, and you ran a church in Japan right after the war for 7 years? But what it did is, I had all
these preconceptions as a child of what church is: it’s a place you’re supposed to go because
that’s what you should be doing. You should give offering, because that’s what you should do.
You should always dress up, because that what you should do. And it wasn’t until talking with
him, and sometimes he’d just be telling a story and other times he’d be talking directly to me and
what I should be, but what it showed me was what a Christian man looks like, but also how-how
God fits into this world, and how you can fit into God’s world. And that it’s not just stories from
the Bible, which I believe-I’ve always believed as fact, but they’re stories, they’re removedeverything’s removed from real life. And that was really the-that I’m like this is more than just
doing what you should do every Sunday, but the faith that he exhibited for 70 years, was really
eye-opening.
KP: Sounds like he sort of became a model for you.
2: He did, he really did.
KP: Yeah. Okay. Moving on: who has most influenced you as far as faith and religion in your
life?
2: I think I just answered.
((laughter))
KP: It was him?
2: Yeah, yeah.
KP: okay.
2: Him, and as much him as my dad. My dad was, growing up he was always on the board he
was always working at the church, and in construction he was [inaudible] there. Any projects
you’d want to do, and I don’t know, I just assumed that was his job. It wasn’t until I got older
that that’s not his job, it’s everyone’s job, and you have to do it. So I try to do that.
4: I think of my grandma, that’s the first person that pops into my head. And I spent a lot of timea couple days a week at her house growing up. And she would take me to dance, and make me
frozen TV dinners and stuff like that. But my grandma was very active in church, but I think
even beyond being on committees or that type of stuff, she always had-her house was open and
she had groups over, and just a quiet faith. And she had lost her eye sight over the past 10 or 15
years, I’m not sure. And just watching her handle that with grace and finding ways to live her life
as a [inaudible] and still be used by God. She is 85 years old, but she is by no means retired, and
by no means tell people that “I’m 85 years old, I’m retired.” You know, they’ve tried to kick her
out of the church kitchen, and tell her that young people can handle it, and she still shows up.
And it’s just that dedication and just that quiet service, and you know, full of life, and just trust.
And I also think of my cousin, and she’s a little bit older than I am, but I think that in my teenage
years, I really looked up to her and her willingness to-she knew all the camps, and moved kind of
across the country to following where she thought God wanted her to be. And you know, her
family wasn’t the happiest where she wound up, but she’s committed to serving God. And her
husband and her today are still committed to serving God, in you know, urban areas and places
that aren’t the nicest. And so I just-both of them have been very influential in different ways. But
in kind of being my role models of who I would want my life to look like-or what I want my life
to look like.
KP: You have some strong memories.
4: Yeah.
3: I would say mine is definitely my mom, we-all growing up, she-it seemed like every word
coming out of her mouth was something about God and something about your Christianity,
something about Church, and always making sure that we were living a life that we were
supposed to be. And even if we weren’t doing the things we were supposed to be doing, she
wouldn’t really-well with me, I mean she’d say, “should you really be doing this? This is what
the Bible says,” and all this kind of stuff. And just last year, her and my dad got divorced, and
she’s been very strong and closer to God now than I’ve ever seen her, and I never thought I’d see
her any closer to God. But throughout this she keeps saying, “I just got to trust God. And He’s
going to get me through it. It’s hard, but, it’s over and done with, there’s nothing that I can do
about it now, so it’s all in God’s hands.” And so, it’s just reassuring to see that she is keeping a
strong faith through everything that’s happened, and never wavered whatsoever.
2: The biggest, the biggest key to it is that she’s really struggled. It hasn’t been at all a cake walk
for her or anything. She’s really struggled. And she has constant reminders that she tells us about
them of the reminders from God that He’s there, and that He has her. And that’s probably the
thing that’s stood out the most, is that the struggle that she’s had, and she hasn’t given up.
KP: Sounds like she’s modeling for both of you. Okay, anybody else?
1: My grandma, because, my mom-she doesn’t believe in anything, like no religion. And I live
with my grandma—I’ve lived with her my whole life. And she would always bring me to church,
and she still does. And she does so many activities, like she works in the nursery and just does a
lot of things for the church-she’s been on a mission trip with the church, so I look up to her.
KP: Okay. Okay, I think that’s everybody for that question. Okay, the next one: do you see the
woman you interviewed any differently now than you did before you interviewed her? And if so,
how?
4: I think, just understanding her story, like I knew Ruby, I kind of know who the ladies are, I
mean, you know, I knew that she was Ruby and that she gave me cookie recipes for a wedding
shower gift, and you know, those types of things. But really beyond that I didn’t really know
much more than she makes really good cookies. Just getting to sit down and talk with her and
just realize what she’s been through in life, and she’s the same age as my grandma, and so I
really enjoyed talking to her, and I think some of the stuff that didn’t come out in the first
questions, it was kind of, I left my recorder on and just talked to her as other things came up, but
these things that you can tell that she didn’t think was that big of a deal and she didn’t think was
all that important, and you’re like, man, you know, places that she worked, and just her
perseverance, and I just think that now you really understand the life that’s been lived there and
the life that’s still being lived and, I just have appreciation for her.
KP: Yeah, that’s good.
2: I see, Juanita as those old posters of the woman with her sleeve rolled up, “We can do it.” And
I was like, I didn’t say it, but I thought, I mean that was you. You, during that period when we
were at war, and our country-women had to step up and keep society going. They rolled up their
sleeves and did it. You’re a tough old lady and when she was your guy’s age was when she was
out there welding and, you know, in the yard. And just, I saw her as that poster.
KP: So she sort of came to have an identity, instead of just some old lady.
2: Yeah, yeah, she did. Definitely. And that’s how I think anybody, but especially me, I sum
everybody up like, Okay she’s an old lady and that’s an old lady. That’s a teenager, that’s a
teenager, that’s a parent? That’s a mom, okay that’s a mom. And I just think not until you really
can talk to somebody and find out their experiences, and I really think the older you are the more
experiences you’ve had that all the sudden gives and identity and makes them real to me. And I
can see myself there at the time, 60 years ago it would impressed of, and I can see that visual of
her working, you know, and doing what she has to do on her own with her husband gone.
KP: Okay, thank you.
3: I’d seen her before, but we’ve got our friends that we hang out with and we don’t talk to the
older people. So, it was nice to get to know her and as he said, when she was listing off
everything she did, I was like, I was impressed with, “You welded? You worked in construction?
Really? You did all these things?” Like, it was very impressive to hear what she did.
2: And she just-I was like, man you sure worked up a sweat back then, and she was like, “Oh, it
wasn’t that hard.”
((chatter amongst the group))
5: I think what you said about giving them an identity—that that definitely is something I found.
Neva was setting up the interviews, I had talked to most of them on the phone, in the past, and
you know, her stories about them and somebody asked me, are they a part of Parkview, yeah, I
knew that but if I met them in real life I wouldn’t know who they were, and so even with the
people I did interview-the woman, gave me a definition of who they are and that they’re not you,
know, oh that’s a member of the ambassador’s class, I know that. And that’s a member of the old
person Sunday school class, but then that’s all that I knew. That’s something that I definitely
saw, and got from this. I think that’s good. And you end up being able to talk with them now,
that that’s something that I can see. Elizabeth, the woman that I interviewed, she isn’t able to
come really anymore. She’s living with her daughter, and she has cancer. I know they’re doing
surgery this week, so there’s even chances that she may not be here for very much longer, and
you see that on a prayer request list and you hear that people talking about that, but actually
getting to talk to her and getting to hear her story, and what she went through, makes me want to
pray for her more. Makes me actually-it went from being a person on a list to being somebody
that I cared about, somebody that I really care what happens to this person, and that, you know,
more a friend and somebody that I knew about. So that, you know, I even find myself this week
thinking about her and what she’s going through, and if I had never interviewed her and really
went and met with her, I wouldn’t have done that, so it made an impact there.
KP: Good. Shlya, do you want to comment on that?
1: I’m okay.
KP: Okay, we’re almost finished here, two more. How would you like this church to remember
you when you’re off to the next phase of your life?
2: I’d like to be remembered the way I think of my dad—like a servant. I’d like to be Jake Otto,
the guy who’s just always serving. I really don’t care who, or how, or when, but just always.
3: I’d say always a willingness to be there and help in any way that I could. And that, I mean,
little things, it doesn’t even have to be come help tear down this wall or ((laughter)) whatever. I
mean it could be little things where I’m at church, or going to visit someone, or somehow having
an impact on someone else’s life.
5: Somebody said at Campus House once: love God, love people, and I think that’s something
that is a goal of mine in my life, that everybody sees that in me, and at this church that people
would think of me and say, you know, that I love God, that my relationship with God was
evident, and that people could see my faith through loving people, and through the things that I
did, whether it be serving, or you know just talking with people, working hard, so that people
would remember that and see that example.
4: I think mine is similar to that, I don’t want to necessarily be remembered for the list of
activities that I was involved in, but more for the relationships that I built with people. And just,
you know, being a willing servant, and just being a follower of Jesus, and just that was
committed to that and whatever that meant, whether it was serving and just helping or sitting and
talking and [inaudible].
KP: Okay.
1: I’m not quite sure how I would want to be remembered.
((laughter))
2: You’re pretty young.
((laughter))
KP: Okay, last question: is there anything you wish you could have asked your interviewee, and
if so, what? Anything you wished you could have asked? Or wish now that you would have
asked?
5: I don’t know what there’s anything I wish I would have asked, I wish I would have gone into
more detail on some stuff. And it’s partially just, you know, we went and met at her house, and
she’s not been doing very well, and that day especially wasn’t feeling well, and so some of the
questions, I know she had more to say, but I didn’t want to push. And, you know, try to get it, so
I just kind of left it at what it was. And so some of the things, I still have questions about, and I
even talked to her daughter some about some things and got some more information from her.
But, so I think, you know that I got a lot of stuff, but it would have been nice to know some more
information, and I asked a few extra questions, but we didn’t get much that. Wasn’t in a
conversational mood, I guess, that day. And so that kind of, I think, hurt the interview a little bit.
4: I think it’d be fun to go back and talk again or something because during the first set of
questions, she had answers, but it was kind of just chatting with her afterwards that I found out a
lot more stuff, and even then you could still tell that there was probably more, or that there was
more things that happened, and whether she was just waiting for church to start and so she
maybe didn’t want to get into it, or she maybe just didn’t feel like it was important, and so I think
maybe, part of me wonders, I wonder if we would have met a couple more times, would she have
opened up more. And especially the question about the difference between men and women, or
do you feel like there’s a difference between being a woman, and she said no. But I’m sure that if
we would have gone back to that for a while, I wonder if she might have had more. And you
know, some of the other stuff, like challenges in her faith and things like that, you know, given a
little more time or just more familiarity, let her realize that her story is important, and you know
even if she doesn’t think it matters, it is interesting. Because some of the cool stuff were just kind
of off-handed comments.
2: I would have liked, and it’s not that we asked everything that we could think of, and she
expounded on some things, but most of the time she was just very cut and dry answers, and she
didn’t seem standoffish at all just seemed to be her answers and they were-you know the thing
we found most interesting, it was no big deal to her. “Oh, this is what I did, and that’s just how it
was.” And I wonder if maybe going back and talking again and asking the same questions, would
bring up different memories and bring up-just bringing it to the front of her mind a little more. I
think maybe we could get some more specific things, but I think we both agreed we had asked
everything that we wanted to. So, I’d just like to talk to her more and see if she has anything else
that she wanted to add, or anything else brought to mind.
1: I wish I could have went into more detail, because our interview didn’t last very long, but
that’s because I did it during Sunday school, that we were short on time, but I just wish we-I had
more questions to ask, because this was my first interview. I didn’t know what to do. So I just
went by the list and I couldn’t think of any questions, and I wish I could have just thought of
some more and went into more detail.
KP: Andrea, do you have anything else?
3: He pretty much covered it. I mean, she was-a lot of her answers were basically the same. But
all relevant, all important. Like Jake said she was just “That was how it was.”
2: All totally honest. “Oh, that’s just what I did.” And we’re all, “That’s amazing.” “No, not
really.”
3: So, and I also thought-like that was the first time we’d actually met her and talked with her,
and I wonder if now, we know who the other one is, we’ve talked, I wonder if knowing us better,
she would maybe feel more comfortable and be more willing to expound on a few things, or I
don’t know, maybe not.
2: Maybe a follow-up.
KP: Well, that’s really the last question I wanted to ask, but I do think it’s interesting that two or
three of you mentioned that you might be interested in another conversation, because I think
that’s one of the issues about intergenerational interviewing is that question of, does it encourage
people to want to further the conversation, and so I guess that’s up to you guys what you want to
do with that. But you’ve just been a great group, and I appreciate you taking the assignment
seriously, and jumping in, Shyla, when it was completely new and probably a little scary. These
will be posted, and we just really, you know, I think it has value to the women who you visited
with, but I just want you to know that it’s very important to us, and I think getting their stories
out there will be a nice thing, both for the church and for you guys to be able to see. So we’ll
keep you posted on that as we make headway. Marah’s the next step with that, so ((laughter)).
Do you have any questions? Do you guys have any questions you want to ask us?
5: I got-they gave me a paper that the minister at North Side had written when he was doing his
masters work in college, and it is a paper on the history of North Side Christian Church, but
North Side started at Parkview-or Parkview planted North Side, and so it starts out with, I mean
most of it’s about North Side, it’s you know, a really thick paper. But the first third of it or
whatever is about the history of our church. So, I got it, and I haven’t finished reading it so you
can’t have it yet, but I’ll get that to you as well, and that kind of gives a little bit of background
about that.
KP: That’d be neat.
5: But yeah, so that was cool, too, to get that. And to be able to read that. Because I knew some,
you asked me the other day, when did this start—I didn’t remember. Just to see some of the
history stuff.
KP: The history of the restoration movement in the Ozarks and Springfield is fascinating. What
the splits were over, and what caused some of the planting of churches, and it’s-I don’t know it
all, but I know some of it. It’s just being a border state has some implications. Good stuff. Okay,
well, again, my thanks to each one of you, and we will be in touch.
2: We had fun! I really enjoyed it. And it might be because of the gentleman that I mowed grass
with, but when I was younger it just opened my eyes to a person who’s lived with God longer
than me has to say about it. It’s really interesting.
KP: Yeah, we did some interviewing with our parents before they died, and that was just some of
the most meaningful Sunday afternoons that we spent, because it really took us to a new deptch
with them. But, you think you live with your parents your whole life and all the sudden you’re
learning all kinds of things, important things. Okay, thank you.
5: Thank you very much.