Insulation Impossible: Fiscal Spillovers in a Monetary Union Banco de España Conference “Interactions between monetary and fiscal policies” Madrid, 25-26 February 2010 Discussion impossible… by Evi Pappa To start with • Very elegant paper • Well written • In contrast with recently developed models uses minimum number of frictions: one The message of the paper • In the presence of frictions – reserve requirement – the fiscal policy decisions of one region will spillover to other regions • Monetary policy can do little to insulate one region from another. A timely issue But different spillovers • crowding out of capital from the increase in debt – presence of RR allocates extra savings in money rather than capital after increase in b. • Reduction in wage rate • Increase in real interest rate The literature • Dixit and Lambertini (2001,2003): fiscal policy may create coordination failures between the central bank and regional fiscal authorities • Beetsma and Bovenberg (1998) and Beetsma and Uhlig (1999): debt bias originating from government myopia • Uhlig (2002): free-riding problems arising from the interaction between many fiscal and one monetary authority Evidence of spillover effects • Evans (1988) no effects of deficits on the current account balances for Canada, France, Germany, the UK, and the US. • Canova and Pappa (2007), spillover of fiscal shocks in relative prices in US states • Beetsma, Giuliodori and Klaassen (2009), positive spillovers of fiscal policy on trade in the EU. • Gwik-Wieland and Faia et al. Today´s discussion: Testing for spillovers of debt in real wages • Difficulties in checking for Ricardian equivalence • So, check for spillovers on real wages • Annual US data (BEA / BLS) on GSP, GG, TR, state and regional employment and state and regional wages and state debt. • 3 regions: Mideast, Southwest and Farwest Debt shock • VAR : Choleski with state debt, GSP, state employment, state wage and regional wages • Control variables, US GDP, FFR, US inflation, oil prices, exchange rate with RoW, regional employment, government spending and tax revenues • Estimation through Bayesian techniques, sample size 1969-2000 • If spillovers=> shocks in state debt should decrease significantly regional wages SOUTHWEST AR LA NM OK TX Impuls e r es pons es to debt s hoc k Impuls e res pons es to debt s hoc k 0.25 Impu ls e res po ns es to debt s hoc k Impuls e res pons es to debt s hoc k Impulse responses to debt shock state wage 0.12 state wage state wage 0.18 0.00 state wage 0.1 0.12 -0.0 0.06 -0.1 state wage 0.48 0.40 0.00 -0.12 0.32 0.00 -0.2 -0.24 0.24 -0.06 -0.3 -0.25 -0.36 0.16 -0.12 -0.4 -0.18 -0.48 0.08 -0.5 -0.50 -0.24 -0.60 0.00 -0.6 -0.30 -0.72 -0.75 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 horizon regional wage 1.0 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 0 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 0 15 5 10 15 10 15 horizon horizon regional wage 0.75 regional wage 0.8 0.16 0.5 7 horizon regional wage 0.32 -0.08 -0.7 -0.36 0 15 horizon regional wage 0.25 0.6 0.50 0.00 0.00 0.0 0.4 -0.16 0.25 -0.5 0.2 -0.32 -0.25 -0.48 -1.0 0.0 0.00 -0.64 -0.2 -1.5 -0.80 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 horizon 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 -0.50 -0.25 0 -0.4 -2.0 0 -0.96 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 horizon 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 horizon 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 horizon 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 0 5 horizon MIDEAST MA OH state wage 0.6 PA state wage state wage 0.84 WV Impulse responses to debt shock Imp u ls e r e s p o n s e s to d e b t s h o c k Impulse responses to debt shock Impuls e res pons es to debt s hoc k state wage 0.36 0.1 0.24 0.5 0.70 -0.0 0.12 0.4 0.56 -0.1 0.00 0.3 0.42 -0.12 -0.2 0.2 -0.24 0.28 0.1 -0.3 -0.36 0.14 0.0 -0.48 -0.4 0.00 -0.1 -0.60 -0.14 -0.2 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 1 2 3 4 5 regional wage 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 0 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 horiz on r egional wage r egional wage r egional wage 0.6 7 horizon horiz on hor izon 1.5 -0.5 -0.72 0 15 0.2 0.2 0.1 0.5 -0.0 -0.0 1.0 0.4 -0.2 -0.1 0.3 -0.2 -0.4 0.5 -0.3 0.2 -0.6 -0.4 0.1 0.0 -0.5 -0.8 0.0 -0.6 -0.1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 hor izon 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 -1.0 -0.7 0 -0.5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 horiz on 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 horizon 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 horiz on 8 FARWEST CA NV OR WA Impulse responses to debt shock Impulse responses to debt shock Impulse responses to debt shock state wage state wage state wage 0.8 0.6 0.6 0.5 Impulse responses to debt shock state wage 0.3 0.5 0.2 0.6 0.4 0.4 0.1 0.3 0.4 0.3 -0.0 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.1 -0.1 0.1 0.0 -0.2 0.0 0.0 -0.1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 hor izon 9 10 11 12 13 14 0 15 5 10 0 15 5 regional wage 0.75 10 0 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 regional wage 0.08 regional wage 0.4 7 hor izon horizon horizon regional wage 0.6 -0.3 -0.1 -0.2 -0.2 0.00 0.5 0.50 0.2 0.25 -0.0 0.00 -0.2 -0.25 -0.4 -0.08 0.4 -0.16 0.3 -0.24 -0.32 0.2 -0.40 0.1 -0.6 -0.50 -0.48 0.0 -0.56 -0.8 -0.75 -0.1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 hor izon 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 0 5 10 horizon 15 0 0 5 10 horizon 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 hor izon 8 Summary of empirical exercise • Data confirm the presence of spillover effects of increases in debt on real wages • However, such spillovers effects are not always negative as the theory suggests. • And not always significant (southwest region) To conclude…. Any model that is well enough articulated to give clear answers to the questions we put to it will necessarily be artificial, abstract, patently "unreal." Robert Lucas 1980