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Motion was made by Councilmember Dulin, seconded by Councilmember Howard, and
carried unanimously, pursuant to North Carolina General Statute 143-318.11(a)(4) to go into
closed session to discuss matters relating to the location of industries or businesses in the City
of Charlotte, including potential economic development incentives that may be offered in
negotiations.
The City Council of the City of Charlotte went into closed session at 1:15 p.m. on Thursday,
September 27, 2012 at the Westside Service Center, 4150 Wilkinson Boulevard, for the purpose
of discussing matters related to the location or expansion of an industry or business in the City of
Charlotte, including economic development incentives that may be offered in negotiations.
Present were Mayor Anthony Foxx, John Autry, Michael Barnes, Patrick Cannon, Warren
Cooksey, Claire Fallon, David Howard, Patsy Kinsey, LaWana Mayfield and Beth Pickering.
Also present: City Manager Curt Walton, Deputy City Manager Ron Kimble, Assistant City
Managers Julie Burch, Ruffin Hall and Eric Campbell; City Attorney Bob Hagemann, City Clerk
Stephanie Kelly
ABSENT: Councilmembers Andy Dulin and James Mitchell
Mayor Foxx said this one is going to be unusual because I’m going to start out talking and then
we will all talk. I called this Closed Session to talk about the Carolina Panthers, our NFL
Franchise that all of us know contributes so much to our community and to the notoriety of our
City. I don’t think I have to tell you that its impact on the City is tremendous and anyone who
was here before the team came and who has lived to see after the team came, you know the
difference.
We have an owner who by his own admission is aging and as that happens he’s started to think
about his future and his affairs.
Councilmember Howard said given what Bill James did last week, can we just reiterate how
important it is to keep stuff in closed session.
Mayor Foxx said this is highly, highly, highly sensitive. He is very committed to Charlotte and
very committed to keeping the team in Charlotte, but at some point there is going to be a
transition and we have a franchise that is not tethered to our City. By that what I mean is, most
cities, and in fact we are one of the few if not the only one, I don’t know how many of them have
a stadium that was privately financed. I don’t think there are any. We can check that, but most
of the time it is sort of like the Bobcats, we contribute and there is a commitment of years that
the team has to stay there and it sort of locks the team into the area. I do know that there is a
public report that one of the wealthiest people in Los Angeles came to sit in Mr. Richardson’s
box for the Thursday night game. I also can tell you that my good friend from Los Angeles has
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been to visit Mr. Richardson, so we have a real issue. The good news is the Panthers are already
going through a process of looking at their long-term plans for the stadium. That process has not
reached a conclusion. They haven’t asked us for anything, but I think it would be wise for us to
authorize the staff to begin discussions with the Panthers about what their plan means and how
we can be of assistance. I suggest that because that is the only way we are going to be able to
work to negotiate a way to tether the team to the City, long-term. I can answer any questions,
but what I’m asking for right now is Council’s blessing to have the staff working on it.
Councilmember Barnes said in light of what we went through for the last two hours, I have no
interest in having staff do that and I’ll tell you why I say that. L.A. has had and lost a football
franchise two or three times and if they want to yank them out there, and I don’t think they will,
then we are not going to be able to control them anyway. I have a growing problem with us
helping people who are already loaded and who have billion dollar businesses and who should be
able to and would ordinarily tell me to pull myself up by my boot straps and they need to do the
same thing. If they want to try to hold us hostage and say if you don’t do X we are going to do
Y, fine. I like the Panthers, like the Red Skins more, but in terms of me saying Mr. Manager
please go entertain them, I don’t even want him to do that because if the Panthers want
something, I want them to put together a package and say here is what we need and here is why,
as opposed to us saying what can we do for you. Obviously, there is something you know that
we don’t, but I’m not there yet.
Mayor Foxx said were you around when we had the issue with the basketball team?
Mr. Barnes said with the Hornets? I wasn’t on Council, but I was in Charlotte.
Mayor Foxx said, but you were around?
Mr. Barnes said yes.
Mayor Foxx said I think we have an opportunity to address this issue ahead of it becoming a
public controversy and to put it to bed in a way that gets the City in a position to keep the team
for a long term.
Mr. Barnes said what does that look like, or do you know? Like what might they want?
Mayor Foxx said I was asking somebody for some details on what other cities have done.
Chicago, you remember Old Soldiers Stadium, there was $308 million in public money and $200
million in private money, Green Bay $169 million in public money and $126 million private.
Kansas City $263 million public money, $125 million private. The three most recent new
stadiums which were built brand new, New York City, Dallas and San Francisco all cost a billion
dollars. They are not trying to build a brand new stadium.
Mr. Barnes said the three you mentioned were retrofits, right?
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Mayor Foxx said they were upgrades and what I have gleaned is that this would be a partnership;
it would not be the City going in alone to do this for the Panthers. Their plan is not complete so
there is not a number there, but I expect that it will be complete by the end of the season.
Councilmember Kinsey said I will be honest with you, on top of the fact that we can’t decide
on a CIP, this doesn’t hit me at the right time. The fact that they haven’t come to us doesn’t hit
me at the right time. It doesn’t please me. For us to come up with hundreds and hundreds of
millions for an upfit when we can’t build a streetcar line it rubs me the wrong way and I’m not
real sure what the public is going to think. I’m not a sports fan but if I go to one Panther’s game
a year I’m fine and I don’t even have to do that. I do remember the Hornets and we had PSLs for
the Panthers, we had the Hornets and went to the games. I don’t want to see them leave but I
don’t want to see us sinks millions and millions of dollars when we haven’t approved the CIP yet
that really does benefit all the sections of the City. There are an awful lot of people in Charlotte
that can’t afford to go to those games. I’m not quite there yet.
Mayor Foxx said let me suggest to you that if the team were to leave, I think it would be the
psychological equivalent of Bank of America leaving and I wouldn’t be suggesting this if I
didn’t feel like it was a very serious issue and one that we need to get ahead of as opposed to
being back on our heels because someone who is willing to buy a team and build a stadium is
going to be throwing a lot more zeros than what we are talking about light rail. We’ve got an
owner that wants to be here, wants to keep the team here a long term and I think if we get ahead
of it we can avoid that problem.
Councilmember Howard said remind me again when does this go public.
Mayor Foxx said after the conclusion of our discussions.
Mr. Howard said the whole subject matter?
Mayor Foxx said the whole subject matter.
Mr. Howard said until we do a vote that says we won’t do it? I just want to make clear what we
say in this room can throw this process off.
Ms. Kinsey said I just have a quick questions, where are we going to get the money?
Mayor Foxx said one source potentially is the food and beverage tax, which supports the
Convention Center. There are whole lot of ifs, ands and buts, but legally that tax supports the
maintenance and upkeep of the Convention Center and one of the questions about whether that
tax could be used is whether there is a Convention Center like use that could be established in the
stadium as I understand it. The other possibility is that we’d have to go to Raleigh to ask them
for additional capacity within that food and beverage tax and to redefine it in a way that would
allow us to use it for the Panthers. I’ll be honest with you, the numbers that I have heard are
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somewhere in the range of $150 to $250 for the entire refresh of the stadium, a portion of which
would come from the Panthers. So that is the scale we are talking about and that is what these
other cities are dealing with.
Ms. Kinsey said did they sign an agreement to stay in Charlotte?
Mayor Foxx said that is what we would negotiate. It wouldn’t make sense for us to do it without
something like that.
Councilmember Cannon is there a time table that they have to operate on? Could they not do
this in 14?
Mayor Foxx said I don’t think we have that long.
Mr. Cannon said the point is relative in terms of what is on the plate right now and I think she
makes a very good point of what we are trying to swallow now. When you are talking about
taking some cinder blocks down and it is without any water, even if we had it, it’s rough. I’d
like to see what it is going toward and I’d like to know if their plan is for MWBE participation
and all that kind of stuff. Staff when you say that they will go giving them charts to work on,
what does that mean?
Mayor Foxx said initially I think it means digging through the source alternatives, having some
discussions with them about what the number actually is, what it would go to pay for. Again
their plan is still under construction so to speak, but we kind of need to let the staff talk it
through and perhaps come back to us as that process is ongoing to give us updates on what is
happening.
Councilmember Fallon said I’m going to shock you. I’m for it because I have a number of
reasons. One, they play in Charlotte. Number two, it is a hometown team and number three, and
I don’t know if this is disclosure or not, that team will be sold. It is not going to be inherited
because he is not talking to his sons. You will lose it if we don’t do something and I think it is
important that we do something. It is identified with Charlotte, Charlotte is on the map now,
because of the DNC, more than it was. You keep a hometown team that gets a lot of publicity
because it is a brand name. We saw what happened with Shinn and people still talk about it. I
just think that is an investment we have to make. It is not pleasant because we are going to get a
lot of push back because of the money, but there are some things that you do because they are
necessary. It is a driver of economic development. It brings a lot of money in here and he is
willing to put some of his own money in it.
Mr. Cannon said how much of his own?
Ms. Fallon said that is to be worked out, but he is.
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Mayor Foxx said I think the posture I would suggest is just asking the staff to begin to kick the
tires on the sources, enter into discussions and if necessary negotiations and come back to us
with the best possible deal.
Councilmember Mayfield said I do not support staff moving forward on this. I think if they
want to ask us for additional funds then just like we have other groups that need to come to us
with a proposal, they need to do the same. Just because they are being courted outside that can
always happen. I’m not as interested in that. We have a lot of things locally in community as far
as business development that is going on for staff, in my personal opinion should be working on,
that is helping the community opposed to this. If they want to submit a proposal then they need
to do their due diligence and come back with a clear ask that tells us exactly what they are asking
for and how that money is going to be paid. Just the idea of us running behind to try to say
whatever you want let’s see if we can make it happen, you need to come with a specific ask
because we have to go back to the community and tell them that we worked on this when we
should have been working on your investment plan. If we can’t come together for that, that feels
too much like the whole baseball conversation to me and at the end of the day that did not feel
good that we couldn’t look at coming together on growing out City, but we came together around
this investment deal. Whether or not he keeps it in the family or it is sold, how is our investment
going to change that? Are we putting in that investment that if something happens, God forbid,
that it is time for him to go home that this property now becomes property of the City of
Charlotte? If it is sold another person coming in could still move it. What are we going to tell
them, are we going to give them additional funds too? That is just my personal opinion and if
they want an ask they need to come in with a clear ask. I don’t think we should have staff
working on it.
Councilmember Autry said are they losing money?
Mayor Foxx said I don’t know the answer to that, I haven’t looked at their books.
Ms. Kinsey said they are losing games.
Mayor Foxx said I get it, everybody is right and I get what people’s concerns are, but this is a
BIG decision to allow this to play out outside of our eyesight. I think what we are really doing is
putting ourselves in a position to engage our staff in the conversation. Patsy and I always have
this conversation because sometimes these things start taking a life of its own, but you realize
you are not committing to do anything other than to let staff talk to them. I think it is worth doing
it because doing it this way will be a lot less painful for this community than waiting to see what
else happens and I think that is where we are. Quite frankly, when the stadium was built it really
was a different model. The building itself was a different model, but the funding was a different
model, too. Our stadium, believe it or not, is about 16 or 17 years old and is now the 29th oldest
stadium in the League. This is a different sport at that level and I’m just telling you we are
putting ourselves at risk if we don’t do this.
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Mr. Cannon said I hear you and I don’t disagree with a lot of what you said, but that stadium was
damn good. TJ and I could go over there and hang out every now and then and do the games, and
if he had put dome on it, it would have been that much more better economically as far as
generating more money than what is going to the place right now. That said, I’m not opposed to
having staff talk to them. Talk to them, but again I want to know what specifically they are
asking money for. I want to know what level MWBE participation there is that is supposed to be
coming. I’d want to see a spread sheet, to Councilmember Autry’s ask relative to what do those
bottom line numbers say about what is coming in and what is going out to determine that whole
“but for” question. I think that is the least that we could do, so I agree that there should be some
talk, but I think we ought to be very pointed about that.
Mayor Foxx said let me get to the “but for” issue because this is a bit like a corporate retention
and that is really what we are talking about. What I’m suggesting is what I might call a head of
the curve strategy, not waiting for someone else to make an offer on the team and then we are
reacting to it. I’m suggesting that we get ahead of it and work with them on a plan to get the
stadium upgrades and tether that to a long-term commitment to the City. That is what I’m
suggesting. There may or may not be a “but for” in a technical sense because we normally have
an incentive, but I think we need to go in with eyes wide open and this is a different approach.
Mr. Howard said is this more of a personality thing with Mr. Richardson? We should respect him
a lot for what he and his family have done for our community. I was wondering if your
approaching him and explain – it is really almost like what they do with trying to tie one of their
key, start talking ahead of time before the team starts talking just like you would do a play on a
professional team. I was just wondering if it is more Mr. Richardson and him wanting to know if
we wanted to be in it out of maybe pride and just saying - because he has not asked for a lot in
this community.
Mayor Foxx said he has not asked for hardly anything.
Mr. Howard said how do you try to tell him ahead of time we are your partner and we want to
make sure you stay.
Mayor Foxx said that is a lot of what this is about.
Mr. Howard said because that is who he is as compared to the deal with George Shinn and who
was going to hold us up no matter what the situation was and you might as well wait for a
proposal. So is some of your strategy tied to him and his personality I guess is what I’m trying to
say?
Mayor Foxx said I would say yes and I would further that by saying this is my impression and no
one has said this to me, but my read of him is that he has given so much to try to build this team
and try to build it in this City that if we send the wrong signal that can further inflame the
situation. I’m trying to say some things without saying them.
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Ms. Kinsey said I just have a couple comments. Number one, I very much admire and respect
the Richardson Family, but number two; I’m reluctant to put staff on this because it will be a
done deal. We’ve seen it over and over and over again.
Councilmember Barnes said we just bought a Mall.
Ms. Kinsey said yeah, we could name a lot of different projects and that is what happens. It is a
done deal. Number three, whoever talks or reports to Andy please tell him this is top secret so he
doesn’t go straight to Steve Harrison because that is exactly what he does most of the time and I
know because I was in the car with him when he did it.
Mr. Barnes said so that is the leak?
Ms. Kinsey said I literally was. And James, whoever talks to James.
Mr. Barnes said can I just make a couple observations? You sent a letter to the Panthers saying
let us know if you have any problems and then today you are saying, and I hate to put this on
you, but you are the person kind of sphere heading the conversation, you are saying let staff go
talk to them. When they are going to come in here and present something to us? Just a general
question, just a general thought okay. Secondly, didn’t the public put $60 million into that
franchise when it started?
Ms. Kinsey said we did the land.
Mr. Barnes said it is not like we haven’t done anything, but we have done something. Thirdly,
they have made a fortune owning that damn thing. They act like they are struggling to put two
nickels together; they’ve made a lot of money running that team. Fourthly, Jerry Jones, the
owner of the Cowboys built a $1.3 billion stadium in Arlington, Texas for the Cowboys. He put
$975 million of his own money into it, $325 million came from the public, but obviously almost
a billion dollars out of his own pocket. Impressive. The other piece is the Panthers own the
current stadium, right? So if they leave who is going to buy it?
City Manager Curt Walton said we are stuck with it.
Mr. Barnes said that land and redevelopment like Mr. Howard loves, affordable housing, there
you go.
Mr. Walton said you haven’t asked my opinion, but here it is anyway. I take Patsy’s comments
as a compliment that we always deliver the deal.
Ms. Kinsey said I didn’t mean it that way and you know I didn’t.
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Mr. Walton said it will cost us more to tear that thing down than it would to throw the money in
now because we won’t get another team and they will leave. I don’t have a crystal ball but we
didn’t have a team except for Mr. Richardson’s connections, and being a former player and all
that stuff. We are still too small a market and I don’t think the NFL will expand in the United
States. They will relocate within the United States. I think Jacksonville is probably first and then
we are right behind them.
Ms. Kinsey said it would easier if they were winning.
Mayor Foxx said maybe if we proceed with this action they will start winning.
Ms. Kinsey said I doubt it.
Mayor Foxx said this is a serious issue folks.
Councilmember Cooksey said in terms of the preferred revenue sources, have I missed the
Session Law or, I think we have to go to Raleigh anyway because unless I missed the Session
Law, prepared food and beverage tax expires on July 1, 2031 anyway and I don’t think we have
enough time between now and 2031 in terms of the revenue to meet what they are looking for,
even if we could.
Deputy City Manager, Ron Kimble, said that is an issue with or without this subject. That was
a Fountain Odum amendment.
Mr. Cooksey said in terms of this conversation, if I understood the lay of the land talk at the
beginning, I heard it that Raleigh would present it as a potential option. I think it is a necessity;
we are going to carry to Raleigh one way or the other.
Mayor Foxx said that is actually true.
Mr. Howard said one option is extension and one is change.
Mayor Foxx said one possibility is using capacity now and going to get additional capacity to
cover the Convention Center, you are right, that is true.
Mr. Cooksey said as far as this issue goes, my inclination as a reasonable outside observer on
this process, is to go with the idea of letting them develop what they need to develop and come
ask us. What I’m chewing over is your discussion about how in this particular case that is not
necessarily the way to go.
Mayor Foxx said please chew very carefully because I’m telling you I’m just really worried
about what happens if we don’t.
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Councilmember Pickering said I hear some real concern in your voice and your strong feeling
that we need to be proactive here, that other things are happening out there that we want to get
ahead of. I’m going to trust your judgment on that and I think the Panthers are important to
Charlotte. It is a jewel in the crown and I know we don’t like to do it, but I cannot imagine them
leaving, I don’t think we can let that happen, so I’ll support this.
Mayor Foxx said I get that we’ve got a lot going on. I get that completely, and I wouldn’t have
even sent that letter last week if I didn’t feel it needed to happen. That is why I added this
agenda item because I wanted to level with you guys on what I know.
Mr. Cannon said anybody in here season ticket holders on the Council?
Mayor Foxx said I’m partial.
Mr. Cannon said are there any conflicts with those of us that might be partial or know for good?
Mayor Foxx said I just buy off somebody else’s PSL.
Ms. Kinsey said if you have a PSL, are you considered part owner?
Mr. Cannon said, no.
Ms. Kinsey said we gave ours up anyway.
City Attorney Bob Hagemann said the team is owned by a partnership and sets you up with the
right to buy the tickets.
Mr. Howard said if we could figure out some language that we could all agree on that is not
necessarily with go see what they need.
Mayor Foxx said I don’t that is what it is. Can I suggest something – to ask staff to participate in
the final stages of the planning process of the stadium and the reason I say that is because they
really are at the end. They have decided they don’t need a new stadium in Charlotte. They have
decided some of the things they need and you’ve heard about elevators and things like that in
some of the literature. I don’t know what else is n there, but they are in the 4th quarter on that
stuff so I think if we are at the table with them and that process concludes and then to ask staff to
look at the potential revenue sources available to support that plan and to negotiate an
arrangement that can be brought back to Council for us to participate, I think those are the three
steps that we have to do.
Mr. Howard said can we take that in bites so that maybe we can get as close to unanimous as we
can today, come back as you have to during that process? I’m asking to kind of talk to the
people who have actually said they won’t support it, is there something that we can at least do as
a first step? I want to keep this going so we can not actually tell the public what we just said for
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now, but just a step we can take and then they can come back to us and we can take incremental
steps, so maybe the first step is just look at sources without meeting and then we come back if
we see sources and we are okay with meeting. I’m just trying to say are there some things we
can dissect from this and then keep this moving?
Mayor Foxx said what I’ve heard from folks who have expressed concern about taking any step
forward is a concern about who asks who. Do we ask them what do you want or do they ask us
what they need from us. I think if we authorize the staff to participate with them in the final
stages of their planning process and ask our staff to look at alternative revenue sources, just do
those two steps.
Mr. Howard said not tell them we are looking at alternative revenue sources. There are two
different things, participate in the planning and then internal start looking at sources, but not tell
them we are going to help you plan and look for sources at the same time.
Mayor Foxx said and ask the staff to bring back whatever requests arise out of that process? I
think there is a risk, just based on the dynamics, there is a risk that if we take a passive position;
I don’t know that they want to ask us. I’m trying to find words and this is a situation where
we’re extending an olive branch before we have to.
Mr. Autry said we want to be proactive instead of reactive.
Mr. Howard said we need to show them that we appreciate them. He needs to know that we
appreciate him.
Mr. Barnes said I appreciate what you are saying David, but after the Mayor’s letter, as soon as
Curt calls and says we want to participate in the planning they are going to know, okay they are
in. Maybe they have kicked the price of one of those beers from $8 to $9 and add a fee to the
tickets or something, but there needs to be a lot more examination done to determine whether
they can do any of this themselves. Secondly, I’m concerned about the precedent this sets
because Bank of America is obviously moving their headquarters to New York or Boston or
someplace, slowly, but surely, so are they going to come and say well if you give us $200
million, we’ll stay. If people are so interested in leaving the City there is clearly something we
are not doing right. We have the Panthers interested in hitting the road, BofA is interested in
hitting the road, Shutterfly hit the road, I mean there is something we aren’t doing right. We
need to start examining that, too. If we are going to be paying people to stay here, then I guess
that is a whole new ED piece that we need to put into budget, but I’m not comfortable with it.
I’m not comfortable with the precedent we set by buying the Mall or the Charlotte Inn because
you are start putting yourself in a situation where you can’t say no and we are quickly heading in
that direction where we won’t be able to say no to anything. That is what bothers me, as a
taxpayer more so than a Councilmember.
Mr. Cannon said I hear you, but I thought we were talking about giving staff a directive to really
go more so on a fact finding, and not that is a deal that is actually done, per se, because they are
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actually going to pose the questions that you are asking right now. You can’t get the answer to
those questions unless you give staff a directive to go ahead and find the answers to those
questions about can they indeed afford it.
Mr. Barnes said that is what I said, as soon as you make that call. I’ve been around seven years,
you’ve been around 25 on this Council and as soon as they get that call they are going to know
exactly what the deal is. Game on, somebody is going to write this check for us.
Mr. Cannon said it would seem to me that a decision would still have to be made by this body.
We are in executive session, you are going to have to raise your hand publicly somewhere about
this, or not.
Mr. Barnes said that is right and I’ll use these notes.
Mr. Cannon said and that is fine. Mayor I would just call the question for us to just go ahead
and make a move on it.
Ms. Pickering said we’ve got a lot in front of us and that is absolutely true, I just think we have
to do all of the above.
Ms. Kinsey said are you going to vote for the CIP?
Ms. Pickering said I’m going to vote for something.
Ms. Kinsey said I meant the whole CIP.
Ms. Pickering said that remains to be seen, but we’ve got to do something, there is no question
about that.
Ms. Kinsey said I’m a no. I’ve got to leave, so I’m a no.
Ms. Pickering said to Michael’s point about setting a precedent, I hear you loud and clear, but I
think we have to take each project individually, each request individually; look at each request
on its own.
Mr. Howard said considering how important this one is and if it gets real close how do we do this
so we make sure we get James in on this conversation?
Mayor Foxx said why don’t we have an informal poll, not an official vote on this?
Ms. Fallon said he’s not taking advantage of this City, he has given to this City. Why would you
think now because we are going to explore keeping him that he would start. From what I
understand, he is going to pay for some of this too. I’ve never known them to take advantage of
anything, he has given to this City.
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Mayor Foxx said that I think is absolutely right.
Mr. Barnes said he has made a fortune.
Mayor Foxx said how many would support authorizing staff to fact find and bring back some
parameters and do some digging on revenue sources for a future conversation? How many
would be in favor of doing that?
YEAS: Councilmembers Autry, Cannon, Cooksey, Fallon, Howard and Pickering
NAYS: Councilmembers Barnes, Kinsey and Mayfield.
Mayor Foxx said can we make that a formal vote now?
Motion was made by Councilmember Howard to authorize staff to do some fact finding,
investigate parameters, and identify revenue sources and to report their findings to the
Mayor and City Council at a future meeting. Mr. Autry seconded the motion. The vote
was recorded as follows:
YEAS: Councilmember Autry, Cannon, Cooksey, Fallon, Howard and Pickering.
NAYS: Councilmembers Barnes, Kinsey and Mayfield.
Mr. Howard said one day that vote is going to be in the history books and I’m going to say I
remember it. Boy, that will be in the paper won’t it?
Mayor Foxx said I know this is a tough issue and it is tough times. I appreciate you all.
The meeting was adjourned at 2:44 p.m.
Stephanie C. Kelly, MMC NCCMC
City Clerk
Length of Meeting: 1 hour, 29 minutes
Minutes Completed: October 16, 2012
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Charlotte City Council
September 27, 2012
Closed Session – Carolina Panthers
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