August 7, 2007 File no: R-3630-2007 IGUA’S response to Information Request #1 by Gaz-Métro to IGUA INFORMATION REQUEST #1 FROM G AZ MÉTRO, LIMITED PARTNERSHIP (”GAZ MÉTRO”) TO IGUA CONCERNING THE EVIDENCE PRODUCED BY DR. L AURENCE D. B OOTH 1) Reference: Schedules 1 – 24 appended to Evidence of Laurence D. Booth Question: 1.1 Please provide electronic versions (in MS Excel or a comparable electronic format) of Schedules 1-24 appended to Dr. Booth’s testimony. Include all underlying data and calculations associated with these schedules with sources clearly noted and all formulas included. 2) Reference: Tables and charts (or Schedules) in Evidence of Laurence D. Booth on pages 17, 41, 47, 48 and 49 Question: 2.1 Please provide electronic versions (in MS Excel or a comparable electronic format) of the tables and schedules appearing on pages 17, 41, 47, 48 and 49 of Dr. Booth’s testimony. Include all underlying data and calculations associated with these tables and schedules with sources clearly noted and all formulas included. Provided in answer to IR1 3) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 3, lines 1 – 3 “Using the traditional risk premium tests I would judge that utilities have a relative risk rating of 45-55% of the overall market. Given that I make risk adjustments through the common equity ratio I would use a value of 0.50 for Gaz Métro.” Question: 3.1 Given Dr. Booth’s estimate of a 0.50 beta for Gaz Métro, please provide a list of all business risk factors that are not mitigated by regulatory protection that cause Gaz Métro’s returns to covary with the market at large. It is Dr. Booth’s judgment that it is not business risk factors that are the primary cause of the 0.50 beta estimate. This estimate is caused primarily by investment factors, such as changes in interest rates. 4) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 5, lines 15-16 “This 7.3% dividend yield may be ‘contaminated’ by GMPL’s other businesses, but most of them are also regulated.” Questions: 4.1 Would Dr. Booth agree that Vermont Gas Systems is a wholly owned subsidiary of Gaz Métro’s wholly owned subsidiary Northern New England Energy Corporation? 4.2 Would Dr. Booth agree that Vermont Gas Systems has a 55% deemed equity thickness for the 2007 fiscal year? 4.3 Would Dr. Booth agree that Vermont Gas Systems has an allowed ROE of 10.5% for the 2007 fiscal year? 4.4 Would Dr. Booth agree that Gaz Métro owns 38.3% of the Portland Natural Gas Transmission System (PNGTS) pipeline? 4.5 Would Dr. Booth agree that PNGTS’ rates are currently set using a pre-tax rate of return of 12.33%? 4.6 Would Dr. Booth agree that Gaz Métro’s allowed pre-tax return (including incentives) in 2002 – 2006 were as follows: 2002 9.69% 2003 10.34% 2004 10.96% 2005 11.64% 2006 9.33% 2007 9.57% 4.7 Would Dr. Booth agree that Green Mountain Power is a wholly owned subsidiary of Gaz Métro’s wholly owned subsidiary Northern New England Energy Corporation? 4.8 Would Dr. Booth agree that Green Mountain Power currently has an allowed ROE of 10.25%? 4.1-4.8 Dr. Booth has no reason to disagree with the answers to these self asked questions, but they are not part of his testimony. What is part of his testimony is that GMLP’s « core business » according to its annual report is the distribution of natural gas and this business is regulated on a rate of return basis. 5) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 33, line 10 to page 34, line 23 Questions: 5.1 Dr. Booth does not mention competition risk in his discussion of short, medium and long term risk. Does Dr. Booth recognize competition as a risk facing regulated utilities? 5.2 If the answer to a) is yes, please explain how regulation mitigates competition risk. 5.1 Competition can sometimes impact on a regulated utility but unlike in the US in Canada it is very rare as generally regulatory boards protect ‘their” utility and award it an effective geographical monopoly. Of course in the truest sense all companies compete with all other companies for the consumer dollar; this shows up in electricity versus natural gas competition in Quebec in certain sectors. However, the only direct competition that Dr. Booth is aware of is Alliance vs the TransCanada Mainline, and even here Alliance is currently full, so that there is no significant effective capacity with which it can compete in the immediate future. 5.2 Not relevant 6) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 37, line 15-16 “and increased its allowed depreciation rate to keep the stranded asset risk constant.” Question: 6.1 Please provide the statement by the NEB (and identify the source of the statement) that is consistent with this statement in Dr. Booth’s testimony. In RH-4 2001 the National Energy Board addressed the question of whether changes in the depreciation rate changed the TCPL Mainline’s business risk, it stated (page 28): “Depreciation The Board views the issues of cost of capital and depreciation as being related, but as addressing different factors. The primary goal of a depreciation rate is to reflect the assessment of the economic life of an asset. Business risk, which is a key determinant of cost of capital, addresses the probability that the utility may not be able to recover its prudently incurred costs over the economic life of the asset, whatever that economic life may be. In RH-1-2001, the Board approved a modest increase in the Mainline’s composite depreciation rate. This increase, however, did not materially change the assessed economic life of the Mainline and, in the Board’s view, its impact on business risk and cost of capital is negligible.” In RH-2-2004 the NEB indicated (as stated by Dr. Carpenter in his answer 9.1a ) “The NEB explains that: (1) depreciation rates should be set to reflect current estimates of economic life, (2) “the assessment of cost of capital should assume that the depreciation rates reflect the best assessment of economic life of” the underlying assets, (3) the “potential that a company’s tolls may not incorporate sufficiently high depreciation rates because competitive factors would prevent such rates from being charged…if significant, is appropriately compensated through the cost of capital”, and (4) “resetting depreciation rates to reflect a new best estimate of economic life does not, by itself, reduce business risk” . Clearly depreciation rates are set to reflect the economic life of a pipeline and thus the risk of stranded assets. If the NEB had not altered the Mainline’s depreciation rate to reflect this supply risk its business risk would have changed.” 7) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 37, lines 15-16 “The BCUC marginally changed its ROE formula when it increased Terasen Gas’s common equity ratio to 35%.” Questions: 7.1 Please confirm that Dr. Booth recommended a 7.75% ROE for Terasen Gas for 2006 in his written testimony in the BCUC proceeding “In The Matter Of Terasen Gas Inc. And Terasen Gas (Vancouver Island) Inc. Application To Determine The Appropriate Return On Equity And Capital Structure And To Review And Revise The Automatic Adjustment Mechanism.” 7.2 Please confirm that had the BCUC not revised the formula it uses to determine Terasen’s allowed ROE in that proceeding, Terasen’s allowed ROE would have been 8.29% for 2006. 7.3 Please confirm that the BCUC did revise the formula it uses to determine Terasen’s allowed ROE in that proceeding, and as a result Terasen’s allowed ROE for 2006 increased to 8.80%. 7.4 Please also confirm that the BCUC revised the formula is uses to determine Terasen Gas Vancouver Island’s allowed ROE to increase its 2006 allowed ROE from 8.79% to 9.50%. 7.1 Confirmed 7.2 Confirmed 7.3 Confirmed the BCUC switched its adjustment to 75% of forecast long Canada interest rate changes from 100% to bring it into line with other jurisdictions. Dr. Booth recommended this change. 7.4 The BCUC has one formula and the TGVI allowed ROE is keyed off this formula. Dr. Booth did not present evidence on TGVI. 8) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 24, lines 8-10 “Since business risk is the primary determinant of capital structure, it is to be expected that a board will change an allowed capital structure relatively infrequently in response to significant changes in business risk.” Questions: 8.1 Please confirm that in 2001 Dr. Booth recommended a 30% deemed common equity ratio for the TransCanada Mainline. 8.2 Please confirm that in Decision RH-4-2001, the NEB approved an increase in the TransCanada Mainline deemed common equity ratio from 30% to 33%. 8.3 Please confirm that in 2004 Dr. Booth recommended a 33% deemed common equity ratio for the TransCanada Mainline. 8.4 Please confirm that in Decision RH-2-2004, the NEB approved an increase in the TransCanada Mainline deemed common equity ratio from 33% to 36%. 8.5 Please confirm that according to Schedule 15 attached to Dr. Booth’s evidence in this proceeding, the TransCanada Mainline earned its allowed return in all but one year during 1990 – 2005. 8.1-5 Confirmed. Dr. Booth recommended that the TransCanada Mainline’s capital structure be maintained. However, the Board felt that the introduction of Alliance, when combined with increased longer term supply risk, increased the Mainline’s business risk. The Board did not feel that the short run ability of the Mainline to earn its allowed ROE had suffered as the data in Schedule 15 confirms. As the Board stated in RH4-2001 (page 28) “Overall, the Board concludes that the level of business risk facing the Mainline has increased since 1994, although it remains low. The increased business risk primarily reflects an increase in the risk resulting from pipe-on-pipe competition and increased supply risk. Other sources of risk have not changed materially.” This change is specific to the Mainline and has no impact on Gaz Metro. 9) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 24, lines 8-10 “Since business risk is the primary determinant of capital structure, it is to be expected that a board will change an allowed capital structure relatively infrequently in response to significant changes in business risk.” Questions: 9.1 Please confirm that in 2005 Dr. Booth recommended a 33% common equity ratio for Terasen Gas Inc. 9.2 Please confirm that in Order No. G-14-06, the BCUC approved an increase in Terasen Gas Inc.’s common equity ration from 33% to 35%. 9.3 Please confirm that according to Schedule 16 attached to Dr. Booth’s evidence in this proceeding, Terasen earned its allowed return in all but three years during 1992 – 2004. 9.1-2 Confirmed that Dr. Booth recommended that Terasen Gas’s common equity ratio should remain at 33% and it was increased to 35%. This was partly due to the lack of preferred shares. As the BCUC states (Decision March 2, 2006 page 32) “As indicated in the above table, all the other major gas distribution utilities have preferred shares in their capital structures. Since 1994 the allowed common equity of TGI has been 33 percent. In 1999 preferred shares were redeemed that accounted for 9.4 percent of the capital structure. The preferred shares of ATCO Gas, Enbridge, and Union are perpetual preferred shares. The Commission Panel accepts the evidence of TGI that it does not have a credit rating high enough to enable it to issue perpetual preferred shares (T3: 267). Therefore, the Commission Panel concludes that the preferred shares of ATCO Gas, Enbridge and Union need to be considered when comparing the capital structures of those utilities with TGI.” And again page 36 “The Commission Panel concludes that the appropriate capital structure range for consideration of TGI is in the range of 35 percent to 38 percent and that given the effect of deferral accounts in reducing the risk of TGI, the appropriate equity component for TGI is 35 percent. Given the preferred shares in the capital structure of all other Canadian gas distribution utilities, (italics and bold added) the equity component of TGI will remain the lowest in Canada for gas distribution utilities.” This change is specific to Terasen Gas and has no impact on Gaz Metro. 9.3 Confirmed that a natural gas utility, similar to Gaz Metro, has very low risk and can earn its allowed rate of return on 33% common equity. 10) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 24, lines 8 -10 “Since business risk is the primary determinant of capital structure, it is to be expected that a board will change an allowed capital structure relatively infrequently in response to significant changes in business risk.” Question: 10.1 Please confirm that the following table comparing Dr. Booth’s recommendations for allowed equity thickness before the EUB in 2003 and the EUB’s decisions on allowed equity thickness in Decision 2004-052 is correct: Company Dr. Booth’s Recommended Equity Thickness EUB Approved Equity Thickness ATCO TFO 30% 33.0% AltaLink 32% 35.0% EPCOR TFO 30% 35.0% NGTL 33% 35.0% ATCO Electric Disco 35% 37.0% FortisAlberta (Aquila) 35% 37.0% ATCO Gas 35% 38.0% ENMAX DISCO 35% 39.0% EPCOR DISCO 35% 39.0% AltaGas 35% 41.0% ATCO Pipelines 36-42% 43.0% No. The comparisons are incorrect. Dr. Booth did not make specific recommendations for individual companies he made general recommendations as follows (page 15 of Appendix A of his Alberta Generic Testimony) “Consequently, I recommend the following common equity ratios: Lowest risk: Electricity transmission assets, for example AltaLink, 30% Very low risk: Gas transmission assets, for example NGTL, 33% Average risk: Gas and Electric LDCs, for example, ATCO Gas 35% 10 Absent the merchant function the allowed common equity ratio can be reduced to at least the 33% of Terasen Gas. If the revenue requirement is recovered through a fixed delivery charge the allowed common equity ratio can be the same 30% I deem appropriate for the transmission wires and pipes. Above average risk: ATCO Pipelines 36-42%, (depends on 2004 EUB decision)” Some of the comparisons above indicate companies that Dr. Booth did not provide testimony on and they also include municipally owned utilities that do not pay income taxes that again Dr. Booth did not make recommendations on, but the AEUB allowed an additional 2% to their common equity ratio. Further the recommendations were conditional on proceedings that were scheduled to come before the Board, such as that on intra Alberta pipeline competition. 11) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 24, lines 8 -10 “Since business risk is the primary determinant of capital structure, it is to be expected that a board will change an allowed capital structure relatively infrequently in response to significant changes in business risk.” Questions: 11.1 Please confirm that in 2006 Dr. Booth recommended a 35% common equity ratio for Enbridge Gas Distribution Inc. as “reasonable if not generous.” July 12, 2007 11.2 Please confirm that on July 5, 2007 in Docket No. EB-2006-0034, the OEB approved an increase in Enbridge Gas Distribution Inc.’s common equity ratio from 35% to 36%. 11.1 Confirmed that Dr. Booth recommended the continuation of Union Gas’s 35% common equity ratio. 11.2 Confirmed but a material fact is ignored. The OEB approved a black box settlement that included as part of it an increase in the common equity ratio to 36%. Settlements by their nature are supposed to be without prejudice, since the tradeoffs that generated particular values are unknown. All we know is that the OEB considered the package fair and reasonable. 12) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 35, lines 24-26 “Further it was my judgement that none of the Alberta utilities were as risky as Pacific Northern Gas (PNG) with a 36% common equity ratio or Gaz Métropolitain (GMI) with a 38.5% common equity ratio, where I regarded those two as the riskiest regulated utilities in Canada.” Question: 12.1 Please provide excerpts from all written testimony and all transcripts from regulatory proceedings where Dr. Booth has discussed the risk or relative risk of Gaz Métro. The only area where Dr. Booth has discussed Gaz Metro is included within his testimony. This passage itself is extracted from his 2003 Alberta generic testimony. Dr Booth is unaware of any questions ever being directed at him in any hearing related to Gaz Metro. 13) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 35, lines 24 -26 “Further it was my judgement that none of the Alberta utilities were as risky as Pacific Northern Gas (PNG) with a 36% common equity ratio or Gaz Métropolitain (GMI) with a 38.5% common equity ratio, where I regarded those two as the riskiest regulated utilities in Canada.” Questions: 13.1 Please confirm whether Dr. Booth stated in written testimony before the EUB in September 2003, “In my judgement, none of the Alberta utilities are as risky as Pacific Northern Gas (PNG) or Gaz Métropolitain (GMI).” 13.2 Please confirm whether Dr. Booth stated in written testimony before the OEB in November 2006, “It was, and remains, my judgement that none of the Alberta utilities were as risky as Pacific Northern Gas (PNG) with a 36% common equity ratio or Gaz Métropolitain (GMI) with a 38.5% common equity ratio, where I continue to regard these two as the riskiest regulated utilities in Canada.” 13.3 Please confirm that Dr. Booth’s opinion continues to be that Gaz Métro is one of the two riskiest utilities in Canada. 13.4 If Dr. Booth cannot confirm this, please explain why his opinion appears to have changed since he filed testimony before the OEB in November 2006. 13.5 Please confirm whether it is Dr. Booth’s understanding that Gaz Métro has had a 38.5% equity thickness and a formula-based ROE since October 1999. 13.6 Please confirm whether it is Dr. Booth’s understanding that Gaz Métro has had a weather normalization mechanism since 1979. 13.7 Please confirm whether it is Dr. Booth’s understanding that Gaz Métro has operated under a performance based rates (PBR) plan since October 2000. 13.8 Please indicate whether to Dr. Booth’s knowledge there have been changes since 1999 in his assessment that the “size and diversity of the Québec economy and the fact that Gaz Métro serves 97% of the province dramatically reduces its risk.” (Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 39, lines 25-27) If there have been changes in this assessment, please identify them with specificity. 13.1 Confirmed the passage in Dr. Booth’s current GMI testimony specifically refers to his Alberta generic testimony! 13.2 Confirmed the OEB passage similarly relates to the risk ranking in Dr. Booth’s testimony before the Alberta EUB, so of course they are the same. 13.3 Confirmed in terms of the utilities that Dr. Booth has provided testimony on. In terms of underlying business risk, as Dr. Booth notes in his current testimony, Gaz Metro would be regarded as above average risk for a Canadian utility, but it also it has greater regulatory protection and a higher common equity component as he notes in his overall summary “Overall I would judge that the greater regulatory protection to have equalized the risk of Gaz Metro with other gas distribution utilities, so it can be allowed the same ROE.” 13.4 Dr. Booth’s opinion has not changed. In fact it is exactly the same. 13.5 It is Dr. Booth’s understanding that “the Regie has established that the rate of return on the rate base is to be fixed using an adjusted capital structure of which partner’s deemed equity is in the order of 46%, including 38.5% that is compensated as common shares of a company and 7.5% as if it were preferred shares.” (Gaz Metro 2006 Annual Report, page 38) It is Dr. Booth’s understanding from Dr. Chretien’s report (page 5) the present formula for the ROE was adopted in 1999. 13.6 It is Dr. Booth’s understanding that Gaz Metro currently has a weather normalisation deferral account. Dr. Booth can not confirm that this deferral account has remained unchanged since 1979. 13.7 Yes. 13.8 Dr. Booth would not judge any changes to be material. Changes in these factors occur only slowly over time. 14) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 37, lines 20 -21 “The important point is that almost all the boards across Canada that have looked at their ROE adjustment formula have reaffirmed the fact that they are fair and reasonable.” Questions: 14.1 Please identify all proceedings where boards in Canada have evaluated their existing ROE adjustment formulas and reaffirmed that they are fair and reasonable. Please identify the board, the docket and/or decision number, and the date of the relevant decision. 14.2 Please identify all proceedings where boards in Canada have evaluated their existing ROE adjustment formulas and made changes to either allowed ROEs as determined by the formula or the ROE adjustment formula. 14.1 & 14.2 Please see Dr. Carpenter’s answer to information request 2.1b. Dr. Booth agrees with Dr. Carpenter’s description of changes to formula allowed ROEs. 15) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 42, lines 9 -10 “This gleeful announcement to investors hardly indicates that PBR is a risk factor for Gaz Métro.” Question: 15.1 Please provide excerpts from all written testimony and all transcripts from regulatory proceedings where Dr. Booth has discussed the effects of incentive regulation on risk. The impact of PBR has been greatest in BC where the BCUC moved its utilities on to PBR ahead of most other jurisdictions notably Ontario, where they are only now moving to PBR. The following comments relate to Professor Booth’s testimony. He does not keep transcripts of the hearings, but to the best of his knowledge PBR was not seriously discussed in any of the hearings. The following passage relates to Dr. Booth’s FortisBC testimony (January 2005) Q. HAVE YOU TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THE EFFECTS OF PERFORMANCE BASED REGULATION ON FORTISBC? A. Yes. FortisBC has been under performance based regulation (PBR) for almost ten years, which is why it has fewer deferral accounts than other utilities. The essence of PBR is to ensure that costs, that can be controlled by the utility are as low as possible, the utility is allowed to share in cost savings. Under traditional cost of service regulation the utility is assumed to operate efficiently, but since lower costs get passed on in a lower revenue requirement there is little “in it” for the shareholders to lower costs. In contrast under PBR rates are set for a base year and then in subsequent years, rates are subject to an inflation adjustment less a productivity factor, which in the case of FortisBC has been 1.0-2.0%. This general PBR model has been modified in the case of FortisBC, since only some costs have been subject to PBR. The three main categorise are: 1) Flow through costs such as extraordinary operations and maintenance costs and capital expenditures, transmission expenses, water fees, taxes, etc, which are all flowed through directly to rate payers. Hence the shareholders are not at risk for these costs. 2) Power purchase costs, which are also mainly flowed through to ratepayers, except that FortisBC gets 35% of the savings up to $1million and 25% thereafter. 3) Shared operating expenses such as operating and maintenance expenses and miscellaneous costs are then shared 50:50 between ratepayers and FortisBC. The above brief description of PBR should be contrasted with the more traditional model of a forward test year, where the utility is held responsible for all deviations from forecast. There are two main differences. First, in a forward test year model the benchmark is increased each year based on the company’s forecast, as adjusted in a rate hearing or settlement. In contrast, under PBR the benchmark is the “base year” adjusted for inflation and the productivity factor, so that in real terms the benchmark is ratcheted down each year.1 Second, in a forward test year model the company is 100% exposed to 1 In practise this is moderated by a true up after a pre-specified period. higher than expected costs, whereas under FortisBC’s PBR it is a 50:50 sharing, so its exposure is limited. Q. DOESN’T THIS EXPOSURE MAKE FORTISBC RISKIER? A. Not necessarily. The PBR mainly applies to O&M expenses which are largely under the control of the company, so that the risk depends on how much “fat” was in the system during the base year. Further the 50:50 sharing reduces the risk, as does the existence of the truing-up date and the exception to “extra-ordinary” O&M expenses. FortisBC accurately describes the effect of the PBR system as “Furthermore, in a PBR framework the shareholder is able to enhance its returns by achieving certain defined performance, reliability and safety criteria.” That is, the main impact of PBR is to incent the company to operate more efficiently and earn a higher ROE, not to expose it to material risk. An example of this is found in the performance of the main gas transmission pipelines regulated by the National Energy Board. In Schedule 6 is the allowed versus actual ROE for the TransCanada Mainline (TCPL), Foothills, the TCPL BC System (formerly Alberta Natural Gas or ANG) and Trans Quebec and Maritimes Pipeline (TQM). Foothills and ANG are regulated on a full cost of service basis, where their rates are continually trued up, so that all costs are passed on to rate payers. As a result they exactly earn their allowed ROE. The only exception to this was for ANG where some merger expenses were absorbed on its acquisition by TCPL. In contrast, TCPL and TQM are on a forward test year plus deferral accounts basis, where they consistently over earn their allowed ROE. TQM has done this every year since at least 1990, while TCPL under earned in one year as a result of some fuel cost disallowances by the NEB. On average being exposed to the forecasting risk of a forward test year has been worth 25-37 basis points for TCPL and TQM versus the no risk cost of service regulation of Foothills. In any dictionary risk means to incur the possibility of harm, it is difficult to see how being on a forward test year and being exposed to forecasting risk has harmed either TCPL or TQM. A further example is for the companies in Schedule 7. This data is for the two big gas utilities regulated by the Ontario Energy Board and Nova Gas Transmission (NGTL) regulated by the Alberta EUB. Enbridge Gas Distribution (Consumers Gas) has over earned on a weather adjusted basis every single year and Union almost every single year since 1990. In their case being exposed to forecasting risk means that they over-earn on average 78-110 basis points a year. Finally, there is the data for NGTL, where the allowed data is that for NGTL where known or that for Foothills when NGTL operating under negotiated settlements. What is important here is that while under negotiated settlements NGTL has routinely earned 1.50-2.0% more then the equivalent allowed ROE for Foothills. The upshot of the data in schedules 6 and 7 is that we have to be very careful in defining risk. Consider two situations, in case 1 you get $10 for sure, whereas in case 2 you either get $10 or $20 with equal probability. Clearly in case 2 you are exposed to “risk” in the sense that you don’t know which of the two outcomes will happen. However, no-one would chose case 1 over case 2, since you are never worse off with 2 than 1 and half the time you are better off. This example highlights a situation of “stochastic dominance” and the fact that variability does not always mean risk. In my judgment utilities are almost always better off in a “risky” situation that involves their forecasting their costs, since they have control over these costs and in practise use this to enhance their actual ROEs. Further, negotiated settlements may have reduced hearing costs, but in my judgment they also work to the advantage of the utility, since the settlements frequently involve an asymmetry of information between the utility and the interveners that is not subject to cross examination. The persistent over-earning by regulated utilities subject to forecasting “risk” is clear evidence of this. Q. HAS FORTISBC PERSISTENTLY OVEREARNED? A. Yes. In answer to BCOAPO IR #91.2 Fortis BC provided actual versus allowed ROE for regulated operations back to 1986. The following graph summarises this data: Actual vs Allowed FortisBC ROE 16 % 14 12 10 8 6 Actual Allowed 4 2 19 98 20 00 20 02 20 04 19 96 19 86 19 88 19 90 19 92 19 94 0 The company clearly believes that this sort of data is important since similar data was also provided in a presentation to DBRS in October 2004 with the sub heading “a consistent history of earning the regulated ROE.” My only qualification is that the correct sub heading should have been “over earning.” However, the most important insight is the very limited variability in the actual ROE around the regulated ROE until 1996, when FortisBC moved to a PBR mechanism. After 1996 the actual ROE clearly moves above the allowed ROE indicating “over earning,” except for 2002 when the failure to earn the allowed ROE was due to integration expenses and software write-offs.2 From 1996-2004 the average ROE exceeded the allowed by 0.56% and if 2002 is ignored the excess increases to 0.78%. It is difficult to see from the above graph that being under PBR has hurt the shareholders of FortisBC. Consequently, I see no reason for adding a bonus to the ROE for a system that already effectively enhances the company’s ROE and does not increase its risk. In the case of Dr. Booth’s Terasen Gas testimony (October 2005) Q. 2 HOW DO THESE COMMENTS APPLY TO TERASEN? Hence the request for a deferral account. A. I have already indicated the significant amount of regulatory protection afforded Terasen through deferral accounts. The BCUC has recognised the value of this protection through its 33% allowed common equity ratio, which is marginally lower than the 35% allowed the big Ontario LDCs. Of note is that approximately 60% of Industrial customers arrange for their own gas supply, while approximately 75% of large volume commercial customers do so. As Terasen notes in its 2004 Annual Information Form (AIF) “Customers arranging their own supply in fact reduce the credit risk to Terasen.” Also the BCUC is generally regarded as a progressive regulator in encouraging the use of incentive or performance based regulation. The essence of these PBR measures is for 50:50 sharing of earnings above and below the allowed ROE, which effectively reduces Terasen’s earnings exposure, since it is only exposed to 50% of the variability instead of 100%. The following graph indicates Terasen’s allowed and actual (post sharing) ROE since 1995 when the adjustment formula went into effect and the company started operating under PBR. Of note is that Terasen has consistently exceeded its allowed ROE, even under the effects of PBR. The graph indicates the degree of regulatory protection afforded Terasen and the obvious fact the incentive based PBR essentially works to increase Terasen’s earnings and not to expose it to any additional risks. This is why DBRS describes the regulatory environment in BC as “supportive,” and in this case they are referring to supportive of the bond rating, that is good for bond holders and credit risk. ACTUAL vs ALLOWED ROE 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 Allowed 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 Post The only “blip” in Terasen’s performance came in 1998 when it failed to earn its allowed ROE. . In answer to JIESC-BCOAPO-CEC 7.1 Terasen indicated that the reason for this was employee severance payments resulting from a major reorganisation, which were not covered by its PBR settlement. These expenses are not normal operating expenses and do not reflect on Terasen’s going forward ability to earn its allowed ROE. The above data clearly indicate Terasen’s low risk nature. In Dr. Booth’s Union Gas testimony (April 2006) he stated Q DOES THE MOVE TOWARDS PERFORMANCE BASED REGULATION INCREASE UNION’S RISK? A. No. I am aware of the Board’s intention to move to multi year incentive regulation with rebasing through periodic rate reviews, but in my judgment this has no impact on Union’s risk. Union operated under PBR from 2001-2003 and in these years it over-earned by 1.50%, 2.41% and 2.13%, which is above Union’s long run tendency to over-earn. Further Terasen Gas has been on a PBR mechanism for sometime and continues to earn in excess of its allowed ROE. In Dr. Booth’s EGDI testimony (November 2006) he stated I am also aware of the Board’s intention to move to multi year incentive regulation with rebasing through periodic rate reviews, but in my judgment this has no impact on EGDI’s risk. EGDI has operated under PBR before, while Terasen Gas has been on a PBR mechanism for sometime and continues to earn in excess of its allowed ROE. I see PBR as a mechanism for allowing a utility to over earn while flowing some of the benefits though to ratepayers. I do not see it as a mechanism that materially affects the risk of the utility 16) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 42, lines 9 -10 “This gleeful announcement to investors hardly indicates that PBR is a risk factor for Gaz Métro.” Question: 16.1 Please provide all scholarly articles, regulatory decisions, or other materials that support the notion that moving from cost of service regulation to multi year PBR regulation has no impact on a utility’s business risk. Dr. Booth is not aware of any scholarly articles that have analysed the impact of PBR on Canadian utilities, since it is a recent phenomenon and its impact is restricted to a small minority of utilities. However, he would agree with Dr. Chretien that it reduces the risk of the utility, whether its impact is of the order of 0.50% on the ROE as he recommends is doubtful. 17) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 41, lines 19 -21 “In this sense PBR has had the same effect on Gaz Metro as it has had on Fortis BC and Terasen Gas: it has allowed them to over-earn the fair ROE.” Question: 17.1 Please explain how it would be easier for a regulated utility to achieve its allowed rate of return (before any incentive rate of return) under Gaz Métro’s PBR than under a traditional cost of service regime. 17.1 The utility controls its expenditures, in the sense that it can time them to meet particular targets, particularly in terms of O&M. The observed empirical results are thus that PBR serves to increase the earned ROE. Dr. Booth is concerned that PBR generates short term gains that eventually results in a rebasing of expenditures and resulting « give back ». 18) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 42, lines 13 -15 “This is a substantive difference from US utilities where it seems that rate hearings are less frequent, there is less use of deferral accounts and interventions are less common.” Question: 18.1 Given Dr. Booth’s comparison of Canadian and US LDCs and his estimate of Gaz Métro’s beta, what is Dr. Booth’s estimate of US Utility Beta? 18.1 Dr. Booth does not normally incorporate US utility betas into his testimony. However, in response to Dr. Carpenter’s statement s before the OEB in Enbridge Gas Distribution’s recent hearing (February 2007) he did draft the following comments for use in direct examination. Q In Mr. Carpenter’s direct examination he discussed your evidence and EGDI’s business risks, do you have any comments on that new evidence? A. Yes it would have been nice to have been able to ask information requests on Mr. Carpenters’ beta estimates and other new evidence that he provided. However the first thing I should mention is that he criticised my conclusion that EGDI has little or no business risk by providing some beta estimates for US gas utilities. However, these beta estimates do not estimate business risk; they estimate the sum total of business risk, financial risk and investment risk so observing beta estimates can not directly tell us anything about business risk. The second thing I should mention is that I did pull off the data for the nine companies he mentioned and estimated their betas using data back to 1973 where available. The most recent beta estimates for the nine are as follows: AGL ATMOS 0.3752 0.43706 laclede NJ Resources Northwest Piedmont SJ Inds 0.4869 0.02442 0.14216 0.32988 0.30892 0.791724 0.812343 0.828952 Southwest WGL 0.2316 0.26856 0.67481 0.714053 0.776618 0.769632 0.743863 The first row is the beta estimate and the second if you weight the estimate 1/3 the actual estimate and 2/3 with 1.0 which obviously increases them all. For convenience I graph the average of all nine estimated from five years of data going back to January 1973. There are several obvious conclusions from the graph: 1) 2) 3) There is no tendency of these betas to revert to 1.0 so weighting them with the overall market’s average beta of 1.0 makes no sense. This just confirms the well known result that utility betas tend to revert to their long run average value not 1.0 Betas for these US gas utilities have been declining over time; Recent estimates of average values of 0.30 are consistent with my recent estimates of 0.45-0.55 given the fact that these utilities as Dr. Carpenter points out do not have the same level of financial leverage as Canadian utilities. 0.75618 Dec-05 Dec-03 Dec-01 Dec-99 Dec-97 Dec-95 Dec-93 Dec-91 Dec-89 Dec-87 Dec-85 Dec-83 Dec-81 Dec-79 Dec-77 Average Betas for Mr. Carpenter' s US Gas Utiltiies 1 0.9 0.8 0.7 0.6 0.5 0.4 0.3 0.2 0.1 0 19) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 2, lines 25-27 “Further, Gaz Métro benefits from relatively generous performance based regulation (PBR) so that together I judge them to have equalized the overall risk to shareholders as compared to the Ontario LDCs implying a similar fair ROE.” Questions: 19.1 Please provide all support for Dr. Booth’s opinion that Gaz Métro’s PBR is “relatively generous.” 19.2 Please identify the years during which Enbridge Gas Distribution Inc. and Union Gas operated under PBR. 19.3 Please compare Gaz Métro’s performance under PBR with that of Enbridge Gas Distribution Inc. and Union Gas. Please make specific reference to the allowed vs. actual ROE data Dr. Booth employed for Gaz Metro on page 41 of his testimony, and for Enbridge Gas Distribution Inc. and Union Gas in Schedule 16 attached to his testimony. 19.1 The fact that Gaz Metro’s expert financial witness, Dr. Chretien thinks that it is so generous that he reduces his recommended ROE by 0.50% is the most obvious sign. 19.2 & 19.3 Please see Dr. Booth’s answer to 15.1 20) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 3, lines 9-13 “In my judgement current formula allowed ROEs are excessive across Canada and have failed to recognize that the use of an adjustment mechanism has lowered the investment risk attached to Canadian utilities and converted their equity into a form of floating rate preferred share, where observed yields are significantly lower than current allowed ROEs.” Questions: 20.1 Please comment on whether in Dr. Booth’s opinion the predictability of formula allowed ROEs outweighs the necessity of an adequate return to attract capital. 20.2 Please identify any regulatory decision that has determined that it is appropriate to lower allowed returns ROEs to account for the fact that they have been made more predictable by using a formula-based approach. 20.1 Of course not. The crucial question is whether the resulting allowed ROE is fair and reasonable. In Dr. Booth’s judgment the Regie’s adjustment mechanism gives generous returns even given the greater predictability that flows from the formula adjustment. 20.2 Dr. Booth is not aware of any. Most boards have simply reaffirmed the general validity of their formula allowed ROEs without going into substantial reasoning. 21) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 3, lines 14-17 “It is the generosity of current allowed ROEs that has caused utility assets to be valued so significantly above their book values. The evidence from takeovers of Canadian utilities indicates that they are very attractive investments since the takeovers are uniformly at significant premiums to book value.” Question: 21.1 Please reconcile Dr. Booth’s statement with the following opinion expressed by the BCUC on page 52 of BCUC Commission Order No. G-14-06 (its March 2, 2006 Decision on Terasen’s Return on Equity and Capital Structure): “The Commission Panel agrees with the AEUB that acquisition premiums may result from a number of strategic factors which are unrelated to the establishment of a fair return for a benchmark low-risk utility.” 21.1 Dr. Booth disagrees with this statement and their interpretation of the AEUB decision, as it is inconsistent with effective utility regulation. If a utility always earns its allowed ROE, and that is always expected to be fair, then there are no strategic factors unless the utility becomes part of a holding company and services are transferred at non-arms length prices, which should not happen in a regulated utility Dr. Booth also notes the decision of the Alberta EUB in its generic cost of capital hearing (July 2004) Market-to-Book Ratios and Acquisition Premiums The Board notes the evidence, including that of AltaGas3 and Calgary/CAPP 4 that the equity of utilities that earn a large portion of their earnings based on regulated formulas in other Canadian jurisdictions tends to trade at market-to-book ratios well above 1.0, albeit at premiums less than the average market premium. The Board also notes that there have been a number of acquisitions of Alberta utilities in recent years, at prices that significantly exceeded book value. For example, in 2000, Aquila acquired TransAlta Corporation’s distribution and retail businesses at a total price of 1.5 times book value. Book value was forecast to be $472 million at time of close, resulting in a forecast premium of $238 million.5 Aquila subsequently sold TransAlta’s former retail business to EPCOR Energy Services (Alberta) Inc. for $110 million, including a premium of $99 million.6 As well, in 2004, Fortis purchased Aquila for a premium of $215 million above the book value of $601 million.7 3 AltaGas Argument, page 24 4 Exhibit 016-11(b), Written Evidence of J.D. McCormick, page 5 5 Decision 2000-41, page 3 6 Decision 2000-71, page 3 7 Decision 2004-035, page 18 Similarly, with respect to the AltaLink acquisition of TransAlta Corporation’s transmission assets, the Board notes Mr. McCormick’s8 evidence that a premium of $200 million was paid to acquire a rate base of approximately $644 million. The Board agrees with the Applicants that there are a number of factors impacting market-to-book ratios of utility holding companies and that one has to be cautious making inferences regarding the regulated utilities. The Board also agrees that there may be strategic factors affecting the price that is paid to acquire a utility. For example, NGTL submitted that its parent did not acquire a further interest in the Foothills pipeline, paying 1.6 times book value, for the opportunity to earn a return at the NEB formula rate; rather, the investment was made in an effort to increase the probability that TCPL will participate in a Northern pipeline project. The Board also recognizes that, in some cases, a premium might be paid for regulated assets in anticipation of significant future growth in rate base, to achieve geographic diversification or to obtain a foothold in a new market. However, parties are also aware of the constraints placed on regulated utilities with respect to affiliate transactions, particularly those with unregulated affiliates. In the absence of such strategic factors, the Board would not expect a prudent investor to pay a significant premium unless the currently awarded returns are higher than that required by the market. The Board acknowledges the views of some parties that payment of a premium over book value for a regulated utility indicates that the recent ROE awards may have been higher than required by the market. The Board is not aware of the strategic factors that may have affected the price paid to acquire Alberta utilities in recent years. Nevertheless, the experience regarding the market-to-book values of utilities and the experience regarding the acquisition of Alberta utilities in recent years gives the Board some comfort that its recent ROE awards have not been too low. Further in this regard, the Board notes AltaLink’s testimony, in response to examination by the Chairman,9 that AltaLink’s decision to purchase TransAlta’s transmission business considered Board awards for transmission entities of 9.75% ROE on a capital structure including 35% equity. Directionally, the Board concludes that the experience regarding the market-to-book ratios of utilities and the experience regarding the acquisition of Alberta utilities in recent years is relevant and supports continuation of an ROE at or below the Board’s CAPM estimate. (italics and bolded added) 8 Exhibit 016-11(b) Evidence of J.D. McCormick, pages 39-40 9 Transcript, Volume 15, pages 2004-2006 22) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, pages 3 and 37 Preamble: “In my judgement current formula allowed ROEs are excessive across Canada and have failed to recognize that the use of an adjustment mechanism has lowered the investment risk attached to Canadian utilities and converted their equity into a form of floating rate preferred share, where observed yields are significantly lower than current allowed ROEs.” “I therefore find it difficult to imagine that the Regie’s adjustment formula does not also continue to give fair and reasonable estimates of the ROE.” Question: 22.1 Please indicate if Dr. Booth favours an automatic adjustment formula for the rate of return, and, if so, where in his evidence the formula he proposes is to be found. 22.2 Dr. Booth was asked to recommend a fair ROE for Gaz Metro. He has frequently stated in other hearings that he believes that automatic adjustment mechanisms have basically “got it right” in terms of the general level of ROEs, albeit at generous levels. Dr. Booth believes that the formula allowed ROE granted Gaz Metro is generous and is near the top end of a range of reasonableness. 23) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, pages 4 and 5 Preamble: Concerning the use of Gaz Métro’s distribution rate as an estimate of the rate of return required by investors. Questions: 23.1 Please confirm that the bond maturity yield represents the expectations of investors on coupons and on bond futures capital gain while the return on the distribution side represents past distributions (paid out over the past year). 23.2 Please calculate the annualized capital gain earned by an investor who purchased a Gaz Métro security in 1993 for resale in December 2006. 23.3 Please indicate if the capital gain calculated represents a non-negligible portion of the return for an investor who has purchased Gaz Métro units. Please indicate if Dr. Booth believes that investors with rational expectations have integrated this capital gain into the return they expect to earn. 23.1 Bonds issued at par have no expected future capital gains. Such gains and losses only come about due to unexpected changes in interest rates as a result we can use the yield on a par issue Government of Canada bond as an estimate of the investors’ expected rate of return. This is also why we use them as a base for the fair ROE in the CAPM. For non-par bonds there is a built in capital gain or loss as the bond is redeemed at par. In the case of GMLP, Gaz Metro’s policy is to pay out nearly all of its income. This is equivalent to a par bond and as such capital gains should only come from changes in interest rates or required rates of return. 23.2 In 1993 the average yield on a Government of Canada bond was 7.85% and in 2006 it was 4.29%, so investors reaped unexpected capital gains due to the decline in interest rates. The same is true of investors in GMLP partnership units, but such unexpected capital gains have no bearing on the expected rate of return. In the case of GMLP the units increased in value from $13.125 in December 1993 to approximately $16 at the end of 2006 for a compound capital gain of 1.5%, this is similar to the unexpected gain on long Canada bonds and would not indicate that this was expected or should necessarily be added to the dividend yield component in the estimation of an expected rate of return. 23.3 Relative to the current dividend yield of 7.3% the realized capital gain of 1.5% is marginally significant, but not excessively so. No rational investor would incorporate this into the expectation of future capital gains. To do so would fly in the face of the known interest rate changes that generated it and the fact that GMLP is an income stock. 24) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, pages 6-17 Preamble: Concerning economic and financial prospects. Questions: 24.1 Please elaborate on the relevance of examining macroeconomic and accounting data ending in 2006 (see Schedule 1, for example) to establish a reliable economic and financial picture for 2008. 24.2 Please specify the academic literature which demonstrates that the macroeconomic and accounting data used make it possible to predict stock performance in Canada and the US. 24.3 Please elaborate on the reasons why Dr. Booth does not suggest incorporating the macroeconomic and accounting variables used within the formula for establishing yield rates in order to improve the results. 24.4 Please explain the concept of myopia and confirm that the validity of the CAPM on a period by period basis relies on the presence of a form of myopia. Please explain if the CAPM on this basis is still theoretically valid if the macroeconomic and accounting variables used actually make it possible to predict the prospects on investment opportunities. 24.5 Please describe the conclusions to be found in the academic literature on the reliability of economists’ forecasts. 24.1 There is inertia built into the economy which is why almost all macroeconomic models incorporate distributed lag functions and exhibit serial correlation. Most interest rate models for example exhibit serial correlation with mean reversion. The classic example is the Vasicek model discussed by Dr. Chretien and the fact that Dr. Chretien wants to rebase the ROE formula using an historic average long Candaa yield. . Consequently where we are is critical for understanding where we can go. Dr Booth believes that this is so obvious it doesn’t need further stating. 24.2 Dr. Booth’s testimony does not discuss stock market prediction and such propositions play no part in his recommendations. 24.3 Good question, while it is possible to use a mean reverting process to forecast interest rates Dr. Booth prefers the market’s judgment as reflected in current rates and his judgment as to the state of the economy and where interest rates are likely to go. 24.4 Dr. Booth thinks what the question is referring to are myopic utility functions, such as a time separable logarithmic utility function, whereby changes in the future opportunity set play no role in the current portfolio decision. Jan Mossin, The Theory of Financial Markets, Prentice Hall, 1973, developed the concept of myopia and its implication for asset pricing were expounded in two classic papers. Stapleton and Subrahmanyam show that a multi-period CAPM only results in a discrete time model if there are no changes in the opportunity set and investors have negative exponential utility functions. This causes the capital gain to be completely predictable and each period’s cash flows are discounted back using the CAPM fair rate of return. While these theoretical results are interesting they are mainly of concern in advanced finance courses. For example, the last time Dr. Booth taught the Ph.d financial theory course at U of T these topics figured prominently and the course outline can be downloaded from http://www.rotman.utoronto.ca/~booth/ under the teaching button and MGT3030. However, the CAPM is now more normally developed based on the distributional properties of security returns and the desire to reduce risk through diversification. Consequently the CAPM can be developed in a multi-period setting under general utility functions and the concept of myopia has been relegated to a theoretical backwater. 24.5 Dr. Booth does not make any use of economist’s forecasts so researching this literature is of no value. However, the fact that they exist indicates that they add value. Otherwise since they are costly to produce they would have long since gone out of business. Economic forecasts are like mutual funds, theoretical economists can not explain why they exist, but they do. Layman, on the other hand, have no such trouble. 25) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, pages 11-12 Preamble: Concerning long term interest rate forecasting. Questions: 25.1 With reference to the statement that “long-term rates have continued their gradual year over year decline without these peaks,” please justify this affirmation with respect to the data presented in Schedule 1 on long term rates. 25.2 With reference to the statement that “long-term bond yields reflect the long-term future of the Canadian economy, while T-bill yields reflect short-term expectations,” please explain the Pure Expectation Theory of interest rates and discuss the empiric validity of this theory. Please confirm that there exist interest rate theories according to which the above affirmation is not valid. 25.3 With reference to the forecast of a 5% long-term rate, please point out and supply all analysis used to arrive at this figure. 25.4 With reference to the forecast of a 5% long-term rate, please indicate if an objective reliability standard, such as a statistical standard deviation, or a subjective one, such as a qualitative assessment, was established for this forecast. If so, please supply this reliability standard. If not, please supply a range of long-term forecasts for a 90% confidence level. 25.1 The Schedule 1 data is averages for the year which smooths out volatility, it is more obvious if you look at the graph in Schedule 3. 25.2 The pure expectations theory posits that long run rates are simply a geometric average of the future short term rates. It is the basis of most interest rate models. The pure expectations theorem has been adjusted by some to include liquidity premiums and maturity matching strategies, resulting in what are normally called biased expectations models. For example, we would expect the average yield curve to be flat if the pure expectations theorem held, but in practice it is upward sloping which is what it is called a normal yield curve. This empirical observation is why many, including Dr. Booth, believe in liquidity or risk premiums embedded in the yield curve. However, the use of the yield curve to gauge the path of future interest rates results from either the biased or pure expectations theorem. Dr. Booth does not use any of these models and sees no point in surveying a huge literature in finance. 25.3 This is a judgment call by Dr. Booth based on his assessment of the state of the economy. Notably since this testimony was filed the Bank of Canada increased its over night rate by 0.25% and indicated there was more to come. 25.4 This question is confusing no confidence interval was used to come up with the best estimate of the forecast long Canada rate. As indicated in 25.3 this is Dr. Booth’s best estimate and consistent with the path the Canadian economy is taking. If external verification is needed what follows is the interest rate forecast provided by the Royal Bank of Canada that is freely available at http://www.rbc.com/economics/market/pdf/fcst.pdf. The Royal sees long term rates increasing to 5.45% over the next year. 26) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 17 Preamble: First table on page 17 Question: 26.1 Please explain the significant differences between the average and the median reported in this table. The distribution of the earned ROEs is not symmetric, they are highly skewed 27) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 19 Preamble: “However, when the commodity is an intangible service that cannot be resold or arbitraged away, like a distribution company, there is no feasible competition. Consequently they have market power.” Questions: 27.1 Please confirm that the use of Gaz Métro’s distribution service is dependent on the consumption by Gaz Métro’s clientele of an energy source, natural gas in this case, which is itself in competition with other energy sources, constituting an energy market over which Gaz Métro does not have significant control (except for certain specific applications). 27.2 Please confirm that if the demand for this particular energy source is on the decrease as a result of competition on the energy market then the service which Gaz Métro offers and for which it has a regulated monopoly, i.e. natural gas distribution, will also diminish. 27.1 This is obviously true 27.2 Not necessarily. While the demand for natural gas per customer may decline (as it has) increasing numbers of customers may cause aggregate demand to increase. Hence, actual demand and throughout depends on the size, diversity and growth of the provincial economy, as well as the impact of competing fuel sources. 28) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 22 Preamble: Missing formula. Questions: 28.1 Please supply the missing formula. There is no missing formula in the document that Dr. Booth filed? The formula at the top of page 22 is the financial leverage as follows: ROE ROI (ROI R d (1 T )) D S 29) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 37 Preamble: Concerning the statement, “The important point is that almost all the boards across Canada that have looked at their ROE adjustment formula have reaffirmed the fact that they are fair and reasonable.” Questions: 29.1 Please identify the decisions or the boards in Canada which have compared their adjustment formula to other available proposed formulas and have concluded that their adjustment formula should be maintained without modification. 29.2 Please identify the decisions in which Canadian boards have been exposed to the evidence which has developed over the last 20 years on the empiric problems of CAPM in explaining yields. 29.1 See the answer to IR 14. As far as Dr. Booth is aware since their original inception boards have simply assessed whether their formula allowed ROE was continuing to give fair and reasonable results. With the exception of the BCUC which changed the adjustment from 100% to 75% of the change in the forecast long Canada yield they have all agreed that they do. Dr. Booth is unaware of any witness proposing an alternative adjustment mechanism, although this was proposed in 1993/4 when first the BCUC and then the NEB looked at the issue. 29.2 In every hearing Dr. Booth has been a part of someone has discussed the empirical problems with validating the CAPM. Generally the issues flow from who the company witness is. Before the NEB, AEUB and OEB Drs Kolbe and Vilbert have used some variation of the empirical CAPM where arbitrary constants are added to the risk free rate to increase the intercept and flatten the slope of the CAPM. Before the BCUC and OEB Ms. McShane has placed more weight on alternative models. Dr. Booth is not aware of any board specifically putting any weight on asset pricing model alternatives to the CAPM, since apart from the above they have not been proposed. To the contrary the Alberta EUB in 2003 specifically used the CAPM in setting the fair ROE for its generic formula. 30) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 46 Preamble: Concerning the statement, “Why the CAPM is so widely used is because it is intuitively correct. It captures two of the major laws of finance: the time value of money and the risk value of money. I will discuss the third major law of finance, the tax value of money, later.” Questions: 30.1 Please identify balance models of financial assets which are not intuitively correct because they do not capture the two major laws of finance which the CAPM captures. 30.2 Please indicate if balance models of financial assets exist which capture the three major laws of finance discussed. If so, please identify these models and indicate if they are even more intuitively correct than the CAPM. 30.1 & 30.2 This question is hard to understand. Dr. Booth believes there is a translation error, but he will try to answer it anyway. The Fama-French model is not intuitively correct, since it is a straight empirical model and the result of data snooping with no theoretical basis. It’s only possible base is the inter-temporal asset pricing model of Merton (1971) or the arbitrage pricing model of Ross (1977) that suggest that other factors might be possible in either a multi-period model or an arbitrage free economy. However, neither of these models suggest market to book or size as risk factors. The after tax CAPM of Brennan and the dividend model of Litzenberger capture the three laws of finance as suggested by Dr. Booth and generate before-personal tax expected rates of return. However, Dr. Booth uses none of these models in his testimony. 31) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 46 Preamble: Concerning the statement, “As long as the market risk premium is approximately correct the estimate will be in the right ball park. Where the CAPM gets controversial is in the beta coefficient since risk is constantly changing so too are beta coefficients, which makes testing the model difficult.” Questions: 31.1 Please explain how to check if the market risk premium is approximately correct. 31.2 Please specify why there would be little controversy with respect to the market risk premium according to Dr. Booth. 31.3 Please confirm that a central implication of CAPM is that the market portfolio be on the boundary of mean-variance efficiency with respect to returns. Please indicate if tests of the CAPM exist testing this implication for which the beta coefficients do not need to be known. 31.1 You bench mark it against historic averages in the country that you are concerned with, other companies with similar institutional arrangements and theoretical models based on utility theory and risk aversion. All of which Dr. Booth does in his testimony. 31.2 Estimates of the market risk premium lie in a relatively narrow range. For example, as discussed in Appendix D to his testimony the market risk premium (MRP) is theoretically determined as: MRP 2 where is the price of risk and 2 is the variance of the annual rate of return. Over long periods of time approximately = 1.5 to 1.6 so when the capital market was very risky with a standard deviation of the annual rate of return of 20% the market risk premium was 6.0-6.4%. More recently with the standard deviation much lower at 16% the market risk premium was 3.8-4.1%. This range compares to the historic average in Canada of approximately 5.0% so the range of possible market risk premiums is bounded by the perceived risk in the capital market. 31.3 Tests of the CAPM are not part of Dr. Booth’s testimony and nowhere does he use efficient set theory. However the Roll critique indicates that under certain assumptions there are three possible tests of the CAPM: The market portfolio is mean variance efficient; betas are a sufficient statistic for estimating risk premiums and Jensen’s alpha is equal to zero. However, you need the full variance-covariance matrix to derive the efficient frontier and test the efficiency of the market portfolio and if you can do this you can estimate betas. 32) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 46 Preamble: Concerning the statement, “However these tests suffered from two major problems, which have never been overcome.” Questions: 32.1 Please explain why CAPM tests on the stock exchange use treasury bond yield as the risk-free rate, even though it be “only appropriate for very short (91 days) investments.” 32.2 If the simple use of a long-term rate allowed adjustment for the documented bias in the first tests, please indicate why this problem was never overcome. 32.3 Please identify the scientific articles or supply the studies and research which demonstrate that the use of a long term rate allows adjustment for the documented bias which emerged in the first tests. 32.4 Please indicate if CAPM tests exist in which it is not necessary to observe the riskfree rate and which therefore are not subject to the first major problem discussed. 32.5 Please explain why the second problem, related to the beta estimates, was never overcome considering the existence of CAPM tests which did not require the betas to be known. 32.6 Apart from the two major problems discussed, please identify the other CAPM problems which have been documented since the first tests. 32.1 Dr. Booth assumes that tests use the T Bill yield over 30 days since the tests are run over 30 day holding periods. 32.2 The use of a 30 year long Canada bond yield as the risk free rate requires a 30 year holding period which dramatically shrinks the number of observations and the literature is dominated by applied statisticians who like lots of observations and focus more on methodology than getting the right number. 32.3 There can be no scientific tests for the reason given in 32.2. However, the fact that a normal yield curve is upward sloping indicates that the yield on the long Canada bond lies above the yield on treasury bills. This causes the intercept on the empirical CAPM to increase and the slope to decrease since the market risk premium is smaller. From the data in Schedule E1 to Dr. Booth’s testimony this adjustment is worth approximately 1.25% added to the risk free rate. The fact that no-one in business uses the CAPM with a treasury bill yield for valuation purposes validates the model. 32.4 Black’s (JB 1971) zero beta model estimates the effective risk free rate as the return on a security that has minimum variance and zero correlation with the market portfolio. At one point, time series of the return on the zero beta portfolio were available to test this model, just as the size and market to book factors are available to test the three factor model. However, Dr. Booth is not aware that the return on the zero beta portfolio is currently available 32.5 As Dr. Booth indicated earlier tests of the efficiency of the market portfolio in practice need the same data as is needed to estimate betas. 32.6 There have been countless empirical tests that claim that there are anomalies, but Dr. Booth believes that they are the result of data snooping. The main anomalies focus on variables that include price. This is consistent with Fama and French’s (JPE 1986) observation of negative serial correlation over long horizons or over-reaction. 33) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 50 Preamble: Concerning the statement, “It is my judgement that betas tend to revert to their long run average levels: for the market as a whole this is 1.0, but for regulated firms from Schedule 18, this is about 0.5-0.6.” Questions: 33.1 Please explain why betas estimated over a long period are not introduced given Dr. Booth’s judgement that the betas’ long run average levels are more reliable and that the beta levels estimated over a five year period are too influenced by abnormal events such as the Internet bubble. 33.2 With reference to Gaz Métro’s beta estimated at 0.5, please point out and supply all analysis carried out to arrive at this figure. In particular, please justify why a value of 0.5 was retained instead of another value between 0.5 and 0.6. 33.3 With reference to Gaz Métro’s beta estimated at 0.5, please indicate if an objective reliability standard, such as a statistical standard deviation, or a subjective one, such as a qualitative assessment, was established for this value. If so, please supply this reliability standard. If not, please indicate why the reliability of the estimate has not been examined. If possible, please supply a range of beta values for a confidence level of 90%. 33.1 They are, just look at the figures in Schedules 18 and 20 which track betas over very long time periods. The average depends on the sample period which is why Dr. Booth produced a range of 0.50-0.60. 33.2 Dr. Booth’s analysis indicates that Gaz Metros’ risk is similar to that of any other Canadian utility since regulation and financial structure offset business risk. This is why adjustment mechanisms used across Canada give such similar results and why the BCUC adjusted theirs, as the results were out of line with other utilities. On page 54 Dr. Booth believes that a reasonable estimate is 0.50, where the range for average betas since 1980 on page 47 has been -0.09- 0.55. This estimate reflects the recent bubble period passing out of the estimation window. Estimates from the 1960’s and 1970s while include in a long run average reflect a period when utilities were under pressure due to high periods of inflation, regulatory lag and the risks of the merchant function. They would thus over-estimate the current risk and beta estimates for a Canadian utility. 33.3 Dr. Booth does not believe in confidence intervals, since they are a function of the sample period. Generally the standard error is the standard deviation of the underlying variable divided by the square root of the number of observations. Statisticians believe that the standard error goes down as you increase the number of observations so the estimate gets better. They thus want more observations. Anyone who knows even limited economics knows that the only way to do this is to go back in time and take in observations that may or may not reflect current conditions. This means that the estimates often get worse not better. 34) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, pages 53 and 54 Preamble: Concerning the statement, “most of the decline in the market risk premium has been caused not by a decline in equity returns but an increase in bond market returns, commensurate with their increased risk,” and the statement, “it is clear that bond betas increased dramatically until the mid 1990s when they peaked at over 0.50.” Questions: 34.1 Please confirm that CAPM theory requires a market risk premium found based on a risk-free rate. 34.2 Please explain the relevance of using long term Canada Savings Bonds as a riskfree asset when Dr. Booth’s testimony argues that they are not risk free and that their risk would even have increased since 1956. 34.1 Correct but the problem is that there are a limitless number of risk-free rates depending on the investor’s holding period. For example when T Bill yields were at 1.5% two years ago this did not reflect the risk-free rate for an investment project with a thirty year life. It simply reflected the fact that the Bank of Canada was stimulating the economy and pushing down short yields. A 30 day treasury bill yield is only risk-free over a 30 day horizon, since investors with a longer horizon have to reinvest at the end of 30 days. It is thus irrelevant for almost all corporate finance decisions. It is only useful for asset pricing people who are fixated on 30 day investment horizons and need lots of data to get any statistical power for their tests. 34.2 This is the conventional practice in valuation, since they reflect interest rate and inflationary expectations over the investment horizon. They thus avoid many of the standard pitfalls in valuation. Dr. Booth, like every other expert financial witness in Canada, also uses the long Canada yield since this is the practice before regulatory boards for the reasons given in 34.1. 35) Référence: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 54 Preamble: Concerning the statement, “I currently estimate the market risk premium at 5.0%.” Questions: 35.1 With reference to the market risk premium estimated at 5.0%, please point out and supply all analysis carried out to arrive at this precise figure. 35.2 With reference to the market risk premium estimated at 5.0%, please indicate if an objective reliability standard, such as a statistical standard deviation, or a subjective one, such as a qualitative assessment, was established for this value. If so, please supply this reliability standard. If not, please indicate why the reliability of the estimate has not been examined. If possible, please supply a range of values for the market risk premium for a level of confidence of 90%. 35.1 and 35.2. Please refer to Dr. Booth’s answers to 33. 36) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, pages 54-56 Preamble: With respect to the two-factor risk premium model. Questions: 36.1 Please point out and supply all analysis carried out to examine the validity of the two-factor model for explaining Canadian and US market risk premiums. 36.2 Please identify the academic articles which propose and test this model on the Canadian and US markets. 36.3 Please confirm that on March 2, 2006, the British Columbia Utilities Commission concluded that “Dr. Booth’s two-factor model is not helpful in assisting the Commission Panel in determining an appropriate Market Risk Premium.“ 36.1 The theoretical justification would be Ross’s arbitrage model or Merton’s intertemporal CAPM or any other generic factor model., that is the same literature that justifies Dr. Chretien’s use of the Fama-French model. 36.2 Interest rate risk was a natural factor to consider after the development of Black’s two factor model, one classic paper is Sweeney and Varga “Pricing Interest Rate Risk: Evidence from the Stock Market,” Journal of Finance, June 1986 says 36.3 That was the decision of the BCUC but Dr. Booth has presented this model before other boards without eliciting any negative reaction. The reason being that interest rate risk is a primary factor in the risk of investing in utilities. 37) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, pages 54-56 Preamble: Concerning the two-factor risk premium model. Questions: 37.1 Please confirm that the “classic” CAPM presented can be written as follows: MRP R K F 5 . 0 , where 0.5 is the beta with respect to the market. 37.2 Please confirm that the two-factor model presented can be written as follows: 23 . 1 5 . 0 ) 23 . 1 ( 5 . 0 23 . 1 MRP R K F , where 0.5 is the beta with respect to the market and also the “gamma” with respect to the interest rate factor, and where 1.23% is the average deviation between long term rates and treasury bond rates. 37.3 Please confirm that with a bit of algebra, it is possible to rewrite the two-factor model, cancelling the 1.23 as follows: MRP R K F 5.0. 37.4 Please confirm that the two-factor model presented is mathematically equivalent to the “classic” CAPM presented. 37.5 Please justify the relevance of examining a two-factor model which is equal to the “classic” CAPM by mathematical construction and will therefore necessarily give the same rate of return estimate. Please elaborate on the relevance of according equal weight to two models when they are in fact equivalent. 37.6 Please indicate if you have tested the soundness of these two models on securities or security portfolios. If so, please produce the results of these tests. 37.1-37.6 The translation of these questions produced questions that are difficult to answer. In particular the algebra did not translate. Dr. Booth will try to answer all these questions as he understands them. First the traditional CAPM is E ( R j ) RC ( E( R M ) Rc ) j where the long Canada yield is subscripted c. the two factor model is E(R j ) RT (E(RM ) RT )j (E(Rc RT ) where T subscripts the treasury bill yield and expected returns are a function of the short term treasury bill yield and two factors one comprising market risk and the other interest rate risk. The CAPM and two factor models can be rearranged as E (R j ) RC (1 ) E (RM )j And E ( R j ) RT (1 ) E( RM ) j ( E ( Rc ) If beta =gamma=0.50 in both models then they give identical estimates as the treasury Bill yield drops out. However from the data in Schedules 21, 23 and 24 this is not always the case. To take an extreme case of gamma =1, for the two factor model the estimate becomes E ( R j ) E( RM ) j E ( Rc )(1 ) ( Rc RT ) This is then only equal to the CAPM if there is no term premium in which case there is no interest rate risk or interest rate risk is not priced. In this case, the two-factor is not relevant anyway. The following table gives the expected rate of return from both models as gamma varies and all the other parameters are as in Dr. Booth’s testimony. gamma 0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.8 0.9 1 CAPM 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.5 2 factor 6.885 7.008 7.131 7.254 7.377 7.5 7.623 7.746 7.869 7.992 8.115 Dr. Booth developed this model in response to other expert (company) witnesses who argued that utilities needed to have much larger ROEs due to their interest rate risk and estimated the interest rate risk premium from realised excess returns on bonds over treasury bills over the last 25 years or so. During this period interest rates have fallen and this realised excess return has been approximately 4.7% as bonds earned 11.47% and T Bills 6.75%. As a result, this earned interest rate risk premium ex post was very large. Dr. Booth tests the reasonableness of a model in part based on the reasonableness of its results and is happy that the two factor model gives the same general estimate as the classic CAPM when you use reasonable market parameters. 38) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 59 Preamble: Concerning the statement, “There have been two major approaches to explaining the puzzle.“ Questions: 38.1 Please identify all of the approaches considered to arrive at this conclusion. 38.2 Please explain why all of the approaches identified above are not major approaches in the eyes of Dr. Booth. 38.3 Please confirm that the academic literature has shown that the risk premium puzzle also exists in various countries, suggesting a defect in the standard economic model rather than a defect in the historical data used to measure risk premium. 38.4 Please confrim that several explanations exist for the premium risk puzzle which do not throw into question the historic risk premium. 38.5 Please confirm that the historic risk premium which is the basis of the literature on the risk premium puzzle generally uses a treasury bond as the risk-free asset. 38.1 In terms of estimating the market risk premium the two approaches considered by Dr. Booth are the only ones that he is aware of. In terms of theoretical work most of the literature focuses on the time separability of the multi-period utility function of the representative agent and the introduction of additional sources of risk such as cash flow risk and/or housing risk. 38.2 Dr. Booth’s evidence is concerned with the estimation of the fair ROE, not the resolution of interesting theoretical propositions. He leaves the latter to his advanced financial theory courses and does not want to try the Regie’s patience by discussing it in this hearing. 38.3 No. The US market risk premium is generally larger than that found in other mature capital market oriented countries with similar institutional arrangements, such as the UK and Canada.. 38.4 See the answer to 38.1 38.5 The risk premium puzzle in the US exists whether or not the risk premium is measured over bonds or bills. It is true that part of the risk premium puzzle is also sometimes referred to as a risk-free rate puzzle by economist who do not seem to understand that when interest rates increase realized returns on bonds go down. Dr. Booth cites some of this literature in his testimony. 39) Reference : Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, pages 61-66 of the evidence and Annex C Preamble: Concerning estimates using the standard discounted cash flow method. Questions: 39.1 With reference to different estimates of the risk premium using the standard discounted cash flow method, please indicate if an objective reliability standard, such as a statistical deviation standard, was used for these estimates. If so, please supply this reliability standard. If not, please indicate why the reliability of the estimate has not been examined. If possible, please supply a range of values for each estimate for a confidence level of 90%. 39.2 With reference to different estimates for the dividend rate and the dividend growth rate used for the standard discounted cash flow method, please indicate if an objective reliability standard, such as a statistical deviation standard, was established for these estimates. If so, please supply the reliability standard. If not, please indicate why the reliability of the estimate has not been examined. If possible, please supply a range of values for each estimate for a confidence level of 90%, 39.3 Please elaborate on the risks of using the standard discounted cash flow method to calculate return rates, particularly given the sensitivity of the estimates with respect to hypotheses on dividend growth. 39.4 Considering the National Energy Board’s “concerns related to the absence of methods for measuring objectively the expectations of investors with respect to dividend growth,” (Decision R-H2-94, p. 6), please explain how Dr. Booth’s methods for determining dividend growth are objective. 39.5 Please confirm that Dr. Booth does not propose to use the standard discounted cash flow method as the basis for a Gaz Métro calculation formula. 39.1 The estimates are the best estimates from the data. With a single set of data points it is not possible to set confidence intervals or do the requested tests. 39.2 Please see the answer to 39.1 39.3 The risks are similar to the risks of any estimation technique. Of importance is that the DCF model is the standard model used in the US and the basis for the FERC’s regulation of interstate pipelines and electricity companies. 39.4 Dr. Booth’s direct DCF estimates come from a sample of US not Canadian companies. There are greater problems in finding pure play utilities in Canada which is a major reason why DCF estimates are not popular. 39.5 Dr. Booth uses DCF techniques as a check on the reasonableness of his overall estimates. His recommendations are only indirectly influenced by them 40) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, pages 69-70 of the evidence and Annex D Preamble: Concerning premium risk reduction due to globalization. Questions: 40.1 Concerning the example on risk premium reduction due to globalization presented in pages 5-6 of Annex D, please confirm that the market risk premium is 5.16% in this example for a Canadian investor in a segmented market. 40.2 Concerning the example of premium risk reduction due to globalization presented in pages 5-6 of Annex D, please confirm that the market risk premium is 5.82% in this example for a North American investor in an integrated market where the correlation is 0.85. 40.3 Concerning the example of premium risk reduction due to globalization presented in pages 5-6 of Annex D, please confirm the exactness of the statement, “As might be expected by merging the US and Canadian markets, with a constant market price of risk the new market risk premium is between the US 6.55% and the Canadian 5.16%.” 40.1 Confirmed 40.2 Confirmed 40.3 Confirmed. However, note there was typo in the standard deviation of the US market. On page 5 it was reported as 20.31%, this is the estimate as of 2005. The most recent estimate contained in Appendix F is 20.07% which was used in the estimates. If 20.31% is used the integrated market risk premium is marginally higher. 41) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 70 Preamble: Concerning the statement, “The objective of regulation is to treat investors fairly. This is accomplished by awarding a fair return such that the share price should only increase by the amount of earnings within the firm and not paid out as dividend. If a utility paid out 100% of its earnings as dividend, the share price should approximate its book value, as long as it continues to be awarded its fair return.” Questions: 41.1 Please confirm that there are almost no companies in the composite S&P/TSX index which are traded at or below their book value. 41.2 Please identify all the reasons why Canadian companies generally are traded above their book value. 41.3 For each reason, please explain why it does not apply to utilities. 41.4 Please confirm that utilities generally are traded in multiples with respect to lower book values than companies in other sectors. 41.5 Please confirm that the reduction in Gaz Métro’s rate of return for the distribution rate (about 7.5%) should have the impact, according to Dr. Booth, of making Gaz Métro’s quoted market price go down to a book value of $7.90, thus falling to a market price less than half of its current price. If so, please explain how this decline would then treat Gaz Métro’s investors fairly. If not, please explain why the price would not decline to the book value. 41.6 If Gaz Métro’s price were to drop to half of its value in order to be traded at a multiple of one with respect to its book value, please confirm that the return on distribution side would double to approximately 15%. If so, please explain if the distribution side return of 15% then represents a fair and reasonable return for Gaz Métro. If not, please elaborate on the value which the distribution side return would take as soon as Gaz Métro’s price were to fall by half. 41.1 This cannot be confirmed as Dr. Booth has not collected this data. Further the market to book ratio is only relevant for regulated firms as their revenues and profits are based on it whereas for competitive firms they are not. Hence the market to book ratio for a competitive firm has little relevance. 41.2 The biggest ones are the exercise of market power and that assets are not recorded on their balance sheet. For example R&D and brand names are the biggest assets for most firms particularly as we move into a knowledge economy and these assets are not recorded. 41.3 Utilities are regulated, do not do much R&D and their brand names count for little. The Consumers Gas Company changed its name to Enbridge Gas Distribution and it had very little impact. 41.4 Yes you would expect this since they are regulated and do not have any brand names and do very little R&D. 41.5 This is the problem of regulatory lag. When allowed returns are not cut in line with market interest rates and the stock price goes up, company analysts then say it is unfair to cut the allowed return since the price will fall. On the other hand company witnesses like Dr Kolbe (in his book Kolbe et al) were telling regulators to increase allowed ROEs when market to book ratios were below 1.0, since this indicated they were being treated unfairly. The result is regulatory asymmetry to the shareholder’s gain. It is the job of the regulator to set the fair ROE and let the stock market take care of pricing the stock. 41.6 No. GMLP’s ROE includes non-regulated earnings as well as possibly an income tax component, so its ROE is much greater than the regulated ROE. E-trade records GMLP’s ROE at 15.92% as of September 2006. further a drop in the allowed ROE if followed by a proportional drop in the market price, which is what would happen if GMLP were a perpetuity and paid out all it earnings, would have no impact on the dividend yield. 42) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 10 of Annex E Preamble: Missing formulas Question: 42.1 Please supply the missing formulas. 42.1 There are no missing formulae in Dr. Booth’s submission, but from the question he assumes that the following got lot in translation: E ( R j ) R F MRPj E ( RC ) RF MRP C or E ( R j ) E ( RC ) MRP( j C) 43) Référence : Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, graph on page 62 and Schedules 26-28, 31-32 of the evidence, Schedules 2-4 of Annex B, Schedules 3-4 of Annex C, Schedules 1-4 of Annex D, Schedules 1-8 of Annex E and Schedules 1-7 of Annex F. Question: 43.1 Please supply an electronic version, in MS Excel files, of the graph and schedules refered to above. Please include all of the underlying data as well as their sources. 43.1 See the answer to IR #1 44) Reference: Dr. Booth’s Information Request #1 on Dr. Chretien’s Evidence Preamble: IR #10: “Please indicate and provide any Canadian decision by a regulator that has explcicitly accepted a US sample of regulated firms as a suitable proxy for setting the allowed ROE or capital structure for a Canadian gas LSC.” Question: 44.1 Please confirm that Dr. Booth was recently interviewed by a consultant who has studied, in particular, the issue of Canadian and US capital market integration. If so, please indicate the conclusions of that consultant’s report and please file the report. Please also indicate who had ordered the study and in what context. 44.1 Dr. Booth fails to see any connection between this question and an information request of Dr. Carpenter. Further he is constantly being interviewed by consultants as well as the media, so this questions has to be much more precise. He is not aware of any consultant asking him questions about capital market integration. 45) Reference: Dr. Booth’s Information Request #1 on Dr. Chretien’s Evidence Preamble: IR #24: “Please confirm that Dr. Chretien’s risk measures place US LDCs as riskier than Canadian ones, so that they should have higher allowed ROEs than Canadian LDCs, if not why not.” Question: 45.1 Please confirm that Dr. Booth was recently interviewed by a consultant who has studied, in particular, the issue of Canadian and US capital market integration. If so, please indicate the conclusions of that consultant’s report and please file the report. Please also indicate who had ordered the study and in what context. 45.1 See the answer to 44. 46) Reference: Evidence of Laurence D. Booth, page 32 Preamble: “If risk is the possibility of incurring harm or a loss the insight from the data in Schedules 15 and 16 is that regulated utilities in Canada have very little risk”. Question: 46.1 Please indicate if Dr. Booth considers that risk must be measured taking into account the frequency with which a utility does not attain the return it is authorized to or is this affirmation only a hypothesis. 46.1 Short term business risk is measured by the ability of a utility to earn its allowed ROE. Long-term business risk depends on strategic considerations such as the risk of stranded assets.