19/10/2012 Straight Thinking about International Education (1) | HESA About One Thought Blog Services Publications Clients Resources Straight Thinking about International Education (1) One Thought to Start Your Day Daily reflections on issues, trends and data in higher education Posted on October 1, 2012 by Alex Usher Over the past summer, we at HESA have been thinking a lot about international enrolment, and speaking to international student recruiters and advisers, and international students themselves. You’ll get to see some of the results of this in the coming months as we publish some of this research, but I wanted to share a couple of thoughts with you all now, while the federal task force report is still fresh in everyone’s minds. My main thought is this: we’re not ready to double international student enrolment in this country. Not by a long shot. Institutions don’t have the capacity, and provincial governments aren’t prepared to create the right incentives to make them do so. Let’s take an example. Institution A is a big, research-intensive school in the GTA while institution B is a regional school in northern Ontario. They both get about $12,500 per student per year in tuition and government grants for a domestic student, and both can charge about $16,000 per year in tuition for international undergraduates (net of stuff like health insurance and other fees that haven’t much to do with running a university). For the regional school, the decision to go after foreign students is a no-brainer. These schools have declining enrolment and capacity to spare. Any dollar they get on the margin is a dollar they wouldn’t get otherwise – as long as they cover their recruitment costs, any income they earn from international students is a net gain. But for Institution A, which doesn’t have any problems picking up domestic students, it’s a different equation. They have a choice between an international student and a domestic student, and so the decision will simply come down to: “is the margin between revenue from an international student and a domestic student large enough to cover all the costs associated with recruitment”? You lose ten to fifteen percent of the first year’s tuition right off the top in agent’s fees – that wipes out half your margin in year one right there. Then there’s paying for the international admission staff, the international recruitment staff (and presidents and VPs) and all their trips overseas. Throw in international student advisors and the cost of any head-taxes that a deeply confused provincial government may have thrown at you in the last budget, and it’s not clear why you’d go for foreign recruitment. Search HESA GO If you like reading One Thought to Start Your Day online, you'll love getting it by email. Click here to sign up for our daily email. And there’s the central problem. Big research-intensive universities – the ones great foreign students would probably most like to attend (prestige matters in this market, folks) – have no financial incentive to accept them. Any plan to double enrolment that doesn’t address that simple issue isn’t going to work. Recent Posts This entry was posted in international. Bookmark the permalink. More Korean Lessons Korean Lessons 2 Responses to Straight Thinking about International Education (1) Incentives Is Research Getting Harder Pingback: Margin Notes | A few doubts on internationalization | University Affairs Pingback: Straight Think ing about International Education (4) | HESA The Other Demographic Challenge Publications Measuring Academic Research in Canada: Field-Normalized University Rankings 2012 Making the Most of It: Canadian Student Employment in Summer 2012 Making Research Count: Analyzing Canadian Academic Publishing Cultures Jobs Don’t Come to Those Who Wait: the Search for Student Summer Employment in Canada The 2012 Federal Budget: A Canadian Education Project Commentary higheredstrategy.com/straight-thinking-about-international-education-1/ 1/2 19/10/2012 Straight Thinking about International Education (2) | HESA About One Thought Blog Services Publications Clients Resources Straight Thinking about International Education (2) One Thought to Start Your Day Daily reflections on issues, trends and data in higher education Posted on October 2, 2012 by Alex Usher Yesterday, we looked at one of the big mismatches in Canadian international education; namely, that big-names schools simply don’t have the financial incentive to take many more international students than they do already. Today, we’ll look at another pervasive mismatch: the one between program demand and program capacity. Bluntly, international students tend to be less interested than domestic ones in programs like philosophy, women’s studies, fine arts, education, social work, etc. What they’re really interested in learning about is business, science and engineering/technology. It’s a cultural thing; most of our international students come from countries which view higher education in a fairly pragmatic light. If we had more students from America and Western Europe, it might be different, but we don’t and it isn’t; our customers want science, engineering and business. Most schools offering undergraduate programs to international students would prefer to have them take business courses than science or engineering, simply on grounds of cost. The average international student fee doesn’t cover the cost of an undergraduate engineering degree, so it’s actually a financial burden to let them into that field (though of course international students may bring some other benefits which make it worthwhile). But what happens when the business courses fill up, or when an institution hits capacity in science or engineering? One of the hot memes in campus international offices these days is the need to “spread the international student experience around,” by which people mean that they would like to get more students into faculties other than business, science and engineering. Usually, it’s clothed in language about making sure domestic students get the benefit of contact with these exotic foreigners (a lingering relic of the days when the argument for international students emphasized how they were here for our benefit, rather than vice-versa). Rhetoric aside, though, an increasing number of schools have a substantive problem: they genuinely can’t accommodate more international students in the fields which are in demand. And their solution, apparently, is to try to shift demand. This Canute-like response is doomed to fail. Success in international education depends on meeting and satisfying demand, not on trying to divert it into areas to suit our own preferences. If we’re going to be an international education powerhouse, meeting demand is something we need to learn how to do. Bottom line: doubling international enrolment means vastly expanding programs in business and to a lesser degree science, even as other parts of the university shrink. No one says this out loud, because in our ultra-collegial universities, the political implications of such a policy change are brutal. But if we’re serious about doubling international enrolment, we need to face up to this imperative and plan accordingly. This entry was posted in international. Bookmark the permalink. Search HESA GO If you like reading One Thought to Start Your Day online, you'll love getting it by email. Click here to sign up for our daily email. Recent Posts More Korean Lessons Korean Lessons Incentives One Response to Straight Thinking about International Education (2) Is Research Getting Harder The Other Demographic Challenge Todd Worsham says: October 3, 2012 at 2:34 pm This analysis is DEAD on, especially the part about what subject international students are looking for and why. In developing countries education is viewed as a tool for modernization, a means to pull oneself up, a way to get the job you want and that your country needs you to do. For many western countries education is a time to explore yourself, get to know what you like, and most importantly to party as much as possible. All of this is well and good (well mostly) but the fact is for many they pay 100k+ much of it in loans and are left with a degree with questionable market value and hazy memories of the last 4-6 years Reply Publications Measuring Academic Research in Canada: Field-Normalized University Rankings 2012 Making the Most of It: Canadian Student Employment in Summer 2012 Making Research Count: Analyzing Canadian Academic Publishing Cultures Leave a Reply Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked * Name * Jobs Don’t Come to Those Who Wait: the Search for Student Summer Employment in Canada The 2012 Federal Budget: A Canadian Education Project Commentary Email * Website higheredstrategy.com/straight-thinking-about-international-education-2/ 1/2 19/10/2012 Straight Thinking about International Education (3) | HESA About One Thought Blog Services Publications Clients Resources Straight Thinking about International Education (3) One Thought to Start Your Day Daily reflections on issues, trends and data in higher education Posted on October 3, 2012 by Alex Usher If we’re going to get into this international education business seriously, then we need to drop a lot of the pretense and mythologizing that goes on in the field and take a really hard-headed look at what our strengths and weaknesses are. These come into two categories: things we say all the time that aren’t really true, and things which are true but which we are reluctant to say. The alleged “truth” that bothers me the most is the one about how international students love us Canadians because we are “friendly.” This pleasant and cozy self-image is, unfortunately, not necessarily how international students actually see us. “Friendly” has a number of shades of meaning. It can mean “welcoming”, which we are, up to a point. But it can also mean “easy to be friends with,” which frankly doesn’t describe Canadians at all. Most international students report that it’s difficult to form close friendships with Canadians. Though pleasant and helpful, we aren’t actually all that open to new friendships. It takes a very long time for Canadians to get to the point with someone where we say “please, come to our house for dinner” – an act which in many cultures signals the beginning of a real friendship. Lots of international students never have that moment with a Canadian. Thus, in addition to “friendly,” international students also use words like “distant” and “superficial” to describe us. Search HESA GO That’s not fatal; nothing says we have to be friendly to be a great education destination. But we shouldn’t try to build a brand around a promise we can’t deliver on. That’s just bad business. On the other side of the ledger are promises we can deliver upon but never make. And number one on that list is our status as an English-speaking country. If you like reading One Thought to Start Your Day online, you'll love getting it by email. A very high proportion of international students are looking specifically for an education in English. We can and do deliver that. But for political reasons, the federal government feels it cannot say that out loud. And so English-language education, which is one of our obvious value point, is not only unmentioned in our national education branding efforts, it’s actively undermined with the frankly bizarre “Education au/in Canada” brand strategy. Click here to sign up for our daily email. (Seriously – did no one focus test this slogan on foreign students before launching? It only works if you’re already bilingual. If, on the other hand, you have only a moderate capacity in one language and none in the other, it’s just downright confusing). Recent Posts These examples are symptoms of a common problem: too often our approach to international education is based on comfy pre-conceptions rather than honest, rigorous analysis. If we’re going to double our numbers, that needs to change. This entry was posted in international. Bookmark the permalink. More Korean Lessons Korean Lessons Incentives Is Research Getting Harder One Response to Straight Thinking about International Education (3) Pingback: Margin Notes | A few doubts on internationalization | University Affairs The Other Demographic Challenge Publications Measuring Academic Research in Canada: Field-Normalized University Rankings 2012 Making the Most of It: Canadian Student Employment in Summer 2012 Making Research Count: Analyzing Canadian Academic Publishing Cultures Jobs Don’t Come to Those Who Wait: the Search for Student Summer Employment in Canada The 2012 Federal Budget: A Canadian Education Project Commentary higheredstrategy.com/straight-thinking-about-international-education-3/ 1/2 19/10/2012 Straight Thinking about International Education (4) | HESA About One Thought Blog Services Publications Clients Resources Straight Thinking about International Education (4) One Thought to Start Your Day Daily reflections on issues, trends and data in higher education Posted on October 4, 2012 by Alex Usher As the recent Task Force on International Education earnestly said, international education is about more than attracting fee-paying foreigners; it’s also about sending our own students abroad to gain international experience, learn new languages and cultures, etc., etc. As we wrap up our international education series, there’s only one problem with this argument: neither institutions not students actually seem to want to commit to the idea. There’s not a school in the country that won’t tell you how much more international they could be or how many more international opportunities they could create if only they had more money. In fact, they are so committed to this view that they got the AUCC to make government investment in study-abroad for Canadian students one of the five priorities in their pre-budget submission. Now, I’m all in favour of international education, and generally pro-government investment in higher education, but this seems to me to be one of those “hold on to your wallet” situations. If study-abroad is such a great idea, why do institutions need someone else to pay for it? Surely if it really mattered they could stump up a few million for this, the way they can for, say, sports scholarships, or any one of a hundred other things that have been funded with the extra two billion or so dollars that have gone their way in the last decade. Search HESA GO (To be fair, some have tried to put the squeeze on donors for this, without much luck. Turns out donors – many of whom are business people – don’t put the premium on international experience one might expect.) AUCC implicitly pushes the idea that study abroad is about gaining knowledge of foreign languages and cultures, and that this is the kind of thing that can help Canada by forging relationships that eventually become trade links. But this – to put it mildly – is wishful thinking. No one keeps statistics on this, but pretty much anyone in study-abroad will tell you that the three most common destinations for study-abroad are the U.S., the U.K. and Australia. HESA’s 2011study of students on internationalization found more or less the same thing: the top two preferred destinations of Canadian students by a long shot were the U.K. and Australia. China and India? They came eleventh and sixteenth on the list, with less than three percent of all mentions between them. If you like reading One Thought to Start Your Day online, you'll love getting it by email. Click here to sign up for our daily email. To sum up: study abroad is one of those things Canadian universities like as long as they can get someone else to pay for it, and students agree that it’s an important way to learn about new cultures provided they don’t actually have to learn a new language or go anywhere that feels more foreign than Leeds. Recent Posts Not promising. Not promising at all. Korean Lessons This entry was posted in international. Bookmark the permalink. More Korean Lessons Incentives Is Research Getting Harder Leave a Reply The Other Demographic Challenge Your email address will not be published. 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While anonymous or pseudonymous comments are permitted, those that are inflammatory or disrespectful may be blocked. higheredstrategy.com/straight-thinking-about-international-education-4/ 1/2 19/10/2012 Margin Notes | A few doubts on internationalization | University Affairs Subscribe Site Map Contact Accueil français Search Articles UA Home > Blogs > Margin Notes > A few doubts on internationalization Search Jobs Brow se Career Resources Adv ertisement Margin Notes Careers Café Speculative Diction « Previous post Next post » The Black Hole Taking the Plunge A few doubts on internationalization Posted on 2 October 2012 by Léo Charbonneau In its 2011 budget, the federal government announced funding for the development of a new Canadian international education strategy, and in October of that same year it named an expert panel led by Western University President Amit Chakma “to provide guidance and direction” for the development of such a strategy. The expert panel released its report this past August, and it can fairly be described as a whole-hearted endorsement of the need to increase the number of international students at Canadian campuses (among other recommendations, including increasing the opportunities for Canadian students to study abroad). The advisory panel’s vision for Canada is to “become the 21st-century leader in international education.” Specifically, the panel recommends doubling the number of “quality international students” coming to Canada within 10 years (from the current number of 239,000 today, of which about 100,000 are enrolled at Canada’s universities). About Margin Notes University Affairs deputy editor Léo Charbonneau shares his insights on interesting trends and happenings in Canada’s university sector. Read Léo’s bio Send Léo an e-mail Subscribe to this blog by e-mail | RSS Subscribe to comments: e-mail | RSS The panel lists the many benefits of internationalization that have been cited frequently over the years by university leaders: international students bring an “international dimension” to campus activities and give other students a “global perspective.” Moreover, if international students choose to remain in Canada after their studies, notes the report, they constitute “a desirable source of qualified immigrants who are capable of integrating well into Canadian economy and society.” Even if they don’t stay, international students who return to their home country “become allies with Canada by fostering successful commercial and political relations, given their understanding of Canadian values and society.” Search Margin Notes There is also a financial dimension: a 2011 report commissioned by the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade indicated that in 2010, international students in Canada spent in excess of $7.7 billion on tuition, accommodation and discretionary spending. Great read: ‘social mobility’ is now the guiding (and misguided) principle of #highered policy (in U.K.) http://t.co/XSuyMGDB Doubling the number of foreign students to Canada, however, will have its challenges. Two separate Canadian higher education consultants recently outlined some of the issues. RT @robannan: évidemment :) RT @paslap: Les gens + intelligents préfèrent Twitter à LinkedIn et Facebook. Eh oui. http://t.co/ZVtYKncm Search for: Search about 45 minutes ago from TweetDeck ReplyRetweetFavorite Alex Usher, president of Higher Education Strategy Associates, in a recent blog post, opined that Canada is not ready – “not by a long shot” – to double international student recruitment. For regional universities, Mr. Usher explains, going after more foreign students is a no-brainer: they have the spare capacity, and the money they earn from international students is a net gain. But, for big research-intensive universities in the large population centres, there’s a different calculation. His conclusion: these latter universities, which are the ones most foreign students wish to attend, have no financial incentive to accept them. “Any plan to double enrolment that doesn’t address that simple issue isn’t going to work,” he says. about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck In a follow-up post, Mr. Usher points to another “pervasive mismatch”: the one between program demand and program capacity. In a nutshell, he says that the programs that international students are most interested in, like business, Recent Comments about 3 hours ago from TweetDeck www.universityaffairs.ca/margin-notes/a-few-doubts-on-internationalization/ ReplyRetweetFavorite RT @scienceadvocacy: 47% of scientists in Canada were born outside of Canada science is truly international. http://t.co/Jao2YUsg #cdnpse about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck ReplyRetweetFavorite Good overview. "Re-imagining #highered Follow @m argin_notes 921 follow ers in Canada: A National Discussion" by @alyssa_lai http://t.co/YdiuWOUB #cdnpse ReplyRetweetFavorite Peter Eglin on The Globe and Mail’s reLearning is more than a lecture - some excellent points by Julia Christensen Hughes 1/3 19/10/2012 Margin Notes | A few doubts on internationalization | University Affairs science and engineering, are not the ones the universities would most like them to take, such as those within the humanities and social sciences. That’s because universities have more capacity to offer the latter programs, which also are cheaper to deliver, than they do the former high-demand, high-cost programs. education: Surely the need of over 50% of students to spend 10-15 hours or more per week in paid employment to keep afloat financially goes a long way in explaining low participation rates in extra-classroom... Some universities, says Mr. Usher, are trying to shift the demand of international students, but such a strategy is doomed to fail: “Success in international education depends on meeting and satisfying demand, not on trying to divert it into areas to suit our own preferences.” Paul Brant on A few doubts on internationalization: I am confused by the argument here – because the key theme seems to be that there is no incentive to recruit and enroll international students. Really? I thought that the key incentives... A related article in Times Higher Education reports on a presentation by Rod Skinkle, chief executive of Academica Group, at the OECD’s Institutional Management in Higher Education General Conference held in Paris in September. Based on a survey of senior institutional administrative staff in Canada, Mr. Skinkle reported that nearly three-quarters of respondents say that their institutions plan to increase international student numbers. However, almost half expressed concern with their institution’s ability to maintain on-campus social and community integration, and a third foresaw challenges ahead in understanding and providing for students’ cultural and religious needs. Mr. Skinkle added that although respondents predicted positive effects from increased international student enrolments, such as more income, there was little evidence to prove it. The inability to keep pace with student service levels meant that the real costs and therefore the benefits to institutions were unknown, says the article. “If we don’t know what the costs are and we’re not measuring the impact and outcomes, it’s … possible for [students] to have a negative experience and this to have a negative outcome for the institution and its reputation,” Mr. Skinkle cautioned. We don’t often read about some of the negative implications to the institutions themselves of trying to recruit more international students, so these pieces provide food for thought. Update, Oct. 3, 9:00 a.m.: Alex Usher added a third instalment this morning to his “straight thinking on international educaton” series of blogs. (1) Leave a comment | Permalink | E-mail post | Share Comments Leo Charbonneau on The fight goes on for free tuition: To Reuben Kaufman and Dr. Craigen, I try generally to give commenters the last word, so to speak, on my blog and so I don’t usually respond directly to comments. But you have invited me to do... Reuben Kaufman on The fight goes on for free tuition: Some interesting ideas, Dr. Craigen …. Leo, do you have some comment on this? Cheers, Reuben R. Craigen on The fight goes on for free tuition: Hi Leo. While I am more or less in accord with your stated position I find your analysis pretty thin and where it has substance that misses the point. Several points, actually. Obviously they... Blog Roll Academica Group Adventures in Canadian Post-Secondary Education Chronicle of Higher Education News Blog Chronicle of Higher Education Wired Campus Archives One Response to “A few doubts on internationalization” October 2012 (3) September 2012 (4) August 2012 (2) July 2012 (3) Paul Brant says: June 2012 (3) 6 October 2012 at 12:04 am May 2012 (3) I am confused by the argument here – because the key theme seems to be that there is no incentive to recruit and enroll international students. Really? I thought that the key incentives were the high international student tuition fees (for undergraduate students) and prestige (for graduate students). Isn’t that why we currently have over 200,000 international students in Canada? Isn’t that why the advisory panel recommends a huge investment in new scholarship programs to attract the best international graduate students? If I understand the strategy document, the objective is simply to maintain Canada’s market share, based on the assumption that the total market will double. Why not interview Dr. Chakma on the recommendations of his committee rather than focus on a views of a private consultant? I thought that the advisory report addressed the exact issues raised by Skinkle. April 2012 (3) March 2012 (4) February 2012 (5) January 2012 (3) December 2011 (2) November 2011 (5) October 2011 (4) September 2011 (5) July 2011 (3) June 2011 (2) May 2011 (4) April 2011 (3) Leave a comment March 2011 (3) February 2011 (4) Name (Required) Mail (w ill not be published) (Required) January 2011 (4) December 2010 (3) November 2010 (3) Website October 2010 (2) September 2010 (4) August 2010 (1) www.universityaffairs.ca/margin-notes/a-few-doubts-on-internationalization/ 2/3