Keten and Buehler Reply The MIT Faculty has made this article openly available. Please share how this access benefits you. Your story matters. Citation Keten, Sinan , and Markus J. Buehler. “Keten and Buehler Reply:.” Physical Review Letters 102.12 (2009): 129802. © 2009 The American Physical Society. As Published http://dx.doi.org/10.1103/PhysRevLett.102.129802 Publisher American Physical Society Version Final published version Accessed Wed May 25 21:30:09 EDT 2016 Citable Link http://hdl.handle.net/1721.1/51334 Terms of Use Article is made available in accordance with the publisher's policy and may be subject to US copyright law. Please refer to the publisher's site for terms of use. Detailed Terms PRL 102, 129802 (2009) PHYSICAL REVIEW LETTERS Keten and Buehler Reply: We recently proposed a fracture mechanics model to predict an upper limit for the rupture strength of a polypeptide chain stabilized by H bonds at vanishing pulling rates [1]. In the preceding Comment [2], Makarov raises the concern that in the shear loading scenario discussed in [1], the force prediction should actually be infinite. Here, we emphasize that our original derivation is correct and point out the differences between our approach and that presented in [2]. According to Eq. (1) in [2], the free energy of the system can be written as Aðx; Þ ¼ AWLC ðx=Þ Fðx Þ s ðL Þ. This requires that the attached polypeptide chain is fully extended, which differs from our assumptions [1]. Our assumption is that the bonded chain is fully relaxed, in which case in the force term in Eq. (1) in [2] disappears, leading to Aðx; Þ ¼ AWLC ðx=Þ Fx s ðL Þ. This assumption is evident both from the fact that free energies are consistently calculated with respect to the R fully relaxed state [AWLC ¼ 0 FWLC ðÞd] and from the expression for the work done by the external force. In [1], the variable dx corresponds to the displacement of the chain end, and the integration is performed with respect to a point that remains stationary. While our assumption may be considered limiting, it is not methodologically incorrect as argued in [2]. On the contrary, our original model [1] represents a minimal theory that has the least number of parameters and yields the simplest analytical formulation possible. The underlying assumptions between Makarov’s approach and our derivation represent two extreme cases. In general, the attached segment of the chain would have a finite average end-to-end distance given as sL, where 0 < s 1 and L is the contour length of the attached segment (see inset, Fig. 1). Then Eq. (1) in [2] becomes Aðx; Þ ¼ AWLC ðx=Þ Fðx sÞ Rs ðL Þ þ ðL ÞAFIX ðsÞ where the last term AFIX ¼ s0 FWLC ðÞd has to be introduced since free energy integrals are taken with respect to the zero-stretch state, whereas the liberated segment already has a prestretch (noting that we treat entropic elasticity and H bond terms separately). If this consideration were included in Makarov’s expression, it would yield a rupture strength value of zero as the WLC model diverges at full extension. Quantifying the strength with assumptions on initial extension state of the bonded chain is thus clearly not straightforward. Proceeding as we did previously [1] but with the prestretch accounted for, we substitute ¼ x= and solve for the critical that satisfies AWLC ðcr Þ þ Fðs cr Þ þ s AFIX ðsÞ ¼ 0, FWLC ðcr Þ ¼ Fcr . For Eb ¼ 4 kcal=mol, p ¼ 0:4 nm, variations of s in the range 0 s 0:6 yield results within the error range of results shown in Fig. 4 in [1]. The case s ! 1 (specific to beta-sheet systems) would involve the possibility of stick-slip motion as a key failure mechanism (H bonds 0031-9007=09=102(12)=129802(1) week ending 27 MARCH 2009 FIG. 1 (color online). Strength prediction for varying values of s, including an extrapolation to s ¼ 1 (double stranded slip case). The linear extrapolation is done for 0 s 0:8 (values admissible to the WLC model). The value for s ! 1 approaches the prediction by our original model [1], illustrating the robustness of the main contribution of our Letter with respect to different physical boundary conditions. The inset shows the double strand shear condition and parameter s, defined as the ratio of end-to-end length to contour length for the attached segment. reform after sliding). We evaluate the critical condition as 2AWLC ðcr Þ þ Fðs 2cr Þ þ s 2AFIX ðsÞ ¼ 0 and extrapolate results to the case s ! 1 (Fig. 1). These results are in excellent agreement with our original prediction, illustrating the robustness of the results reported in [1]. Specifically, our results shown in Fig. 1 here and Fig. 4 in [1] (both lead to 127 pN) agree well with experiments (Fig. 1 in [1]). Typical rupture forces (the case considered here, distinct from refolding) in force-quenching experiments [3] agree with our predictions. The number of H bonds present and the loading geometry will affect the strength of the assembly as discussed in [1]. The predictions reported in [1] correspond to an upper strength limit of a large uniformly loaded cluster of H bonds. Sinan Keten and Markus J. Buehler Laboratory for Atomistic and Molecular Mechanics Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering Massachusetts Institute of Technology 77 Massachusetts Avenue, Room 1-235A&B Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA Received 13 October 2008; published 26 March 2009 DOI: 10.1103/PhysRevLett.102.129802 PACS numbers: 82.37.Rs, 62.20.M, 81.40.Lm, 87.15.La [1] S. Keten and M. J. Buehler, Phys. Rev. Lett. 100, 198301 (2008). [2] D. E. Makarov, preceding Comment, Phys. Rev. Lett. 102, 129801 (2009). [3] S. Garcia-Manyes et al., Biophys. J. 93, 2436 (2007). 129802-1 Ó 2009 The American Physical Society