How Do Environmental Policies Affect Jobs? -- Discussion Anne E. Smith, Senior Vice President RFF First Wednesday Seminar May 6, 2015 Projected Changes in Labor Earnings: Partial vs. CGE w/ Full-Employment Job-Eq. Impact Estimates Rule MATS (*) Sectors Subject to Rule EPA (“MPS” partial model) NewERA (CGE model) Electricity +8,000 -71,000 (-15,000 to 30,000) CSAPR Electricity +700 -34,000 (-1,000 to 3,000) Boiler MACT Non-Elec. Industries +2,200 -28,000 (-4,100 to 8,500) Source: Smith, Gans, and Yuan (2013), available: http://www.nera.com/content/dam/nera/publications/2013/Chamber-Employment%20Impacts_FinalReport-w-Addendum.pdf (*) MATS impact analysis was performed relative to baseline with CSAPR, as in RIA. The other 2 policies were analyzed relative to a baseline with CAIR for comparability to EPA’s RIAs for those 2 rules. 2 A Few Comments on H-W’s “Initial Findings” Might be due to lack of diversity among emitters 3 A Few Comments on H-W’s “Initial Findings” Might be due to lack of inter-sectoral connections in capital, energy, materials 4 A Few Comments on H-W’s “Initial Findings” Might be due to lack of occupational skill & locational differences 5 A Few Comments on H-W’s “Initial Findings” Might be larger when accounting for productivity impacts of emissions control costs 6 Conclusions Premature to conclude that job losses and job shifts are small relative to overall policy cost Premature to conclude that partial analyses overstate labor impacts compared to CGE Is reasonable to conclude that CGE modeling is better for assessing net regulatory impacts to labor – whether modeled with or without involuntary unemployment 7