[This Document is the Property of His Britannic Majesty s Government.]
Printed, for the Cabinet.
October 1922.
SECRET.
CP
4270.
CABINET.
REPORT
OF
T H E COMMITTEE ON E X P E N D I T U R E
(CIVIL
DEPARTMENTS).
W E were a p p o i n t e d by Cabinet M i n u t e 5 (b) of Cabinet 34 (22) to consider the
D r a f t Estimates of the C i v i l Services f o r the year 1923-24.
T h e B u d g e t f o r that year is threatened by t w o dangers. T h e charge i n respect of
our debt to U n i t e d States may be very g r e a t l y increased, while the loss of anticipated
revenue f r o m the Excess Profits D u t y is now assuming very large dimensions. W h i l e
a forecast of revenue f r a m e d so far in advance must necessarily be somewhat
speculative, w e are i n f o r m e d that on present indications there may be a deficit of
£60 millions t o £ 6 5 millions i n 1923-24 on the basis of existing taxation unless
e x p e n d i t u r e can be reduced by that amount.
Our task w a s to examine the Estimates for the C i v i l Departments, the expendi­
ture on the F i g h t i n g Services, including the M i d d l e East, being referred to the
C o m m i t t e e presided over by the Secretary of State for the Colonies.
2 O n the 16th J u n e the Treasury issued a circular d r a w i n g attention to the
position a n d calling on Departments to submit sketch Estimates of their expenditure
in 1923-24. T h e replies to that circular are set out i n A p p e n d i x I to this report.
T h e o r i g i n a l Estimates for the C i v i l Services ( O r d i n a r y B u d g e t ) in 1922-23 were
£320 millions a n d the replies f r o m the Departments indicated reductions on 96 V o t e s
amounting to £ 2 4 ^ millions and increases on 22 V o t e s amounting to £ 1 0 millions,
the net result being a decrease of £ 1 4 ^ millions, or 4-5 per cent.
T h e charge f o r W a r Pensions showed a decrease of £ 1 2 millions, if allowance is
made f o r the revision of pension rates w i t h the cost o f l i v i n g , to w h i c h reference is made
in p a r a g r a p h 5 below. I n respect of the bonus to C i v i l Servants, Departments w e r e
instructed to estimate on the basis of a cost of l i v i n g of 85 points above the p r e - w a r
rate, and the sum so calculated shows a reduction f o r the whole Service of over
£ 4 millions.
I r i s h V o t e s show a decline of nearly £ 2 ^ millions.
These largely
automatic savings account f o r a g r e a t p a r t of the £ 2 4 ^ millions of reductions.
Comparison is made in all cases w i t h the O r i g i n a l Estimates f o r 1922-23, not
including, therefore, the Supplementary Estimates put f o r w a r d last summer, and )
the increases o f £ 1 0 millions are l a r g e l y accounted for by t w o decisions taken a f t e r
the O r i g i n a l Estimates f o r 1922-23 w e r e framed, v i z : —
v
increased charge of roughly £31 millions in respect of ' ' T h e
U n e m p l o y m e n t Insurance A c t , 1 9 2 2 . "
E x p e n d i t u r e of nearly £ 3 millions under " T h e E m p i r e Settlement A c t ,
1922."
An
3. I t immediately became apparent to us that the need f o r further retrenchment
was i m p e r a t i v e , but the difficulty of c a r r y i n g out detailed investigation over so w i d e
a field b y the full Committee w a s so serious that w e decided that the p r e l i m i n a r y
work should be undertaken by sub-committees.
L o r d C r a w f o r d examined the F o r e i g n and Colonial Estimates, as w e l l as the
P o l i c e and certain other H o m e Office V o t e s . I n dealing with the F o r e i g n and Colonial
Estimates he was assisted by S i r John B a i r d .
L o r d P e e l assisted by M r . A m e r y examined the H e a l t h V o t e s .
S i r L . W o r t h i n g t o n - E v a n s examined the W a r Pensions V o t e w i t h the
assistance o f Commander Eyres Mbnsell, and the M i n i s t r y of Labour V o t e w i t h the
assistance o f M a j o r T r y o n .
A t our request M r . H i l t o n Y o u n g undertook the examination of the E d u c a t i o n
and W o r k s V o t e s .
T h e r e m a i n i n g Votes r e q u i r i n g examination were dealt w i t h by the Chancellor
of the Exchequer assisted, as r e g a r d s A g r i c u l t u r e , by L o r d Gorell and, as regards the
P o s t Office, by S i r M o n t a g u e B a r l o w .
W e h a v e considered in d e t a i l the R e p o r t s o f the different sub-committees, and as
presented h e r e w i t h they represent our unanimous recommendations.
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4. A s shown in A p p e n d i x I , the further savings recommended amount to
£171- millions, m a k i n g , w i t h the savings o f £141 millions shown in the sketch
Estimates a total of £ 3 2 millions, or 10 per cent, of the sum included for these services
in this year's Budget.
T h i s result, w e trust, w i l l be supported by the Cabinet.
'
T h e g r e a t efforts made in the current year to effect economies have in many cases
rendered our task more difficult.
Several Departments which contrived to.,reduce
their votes in 1922-23 by realising assets, utilising balances on funds, and reducing
stores in hand have found it necessary to a p p l y for increased grants in 1923-24.
W e have in no case suggested a reduction i n a V o t e without s p e c i f y i n g clearly
in what direction, in our opinion, the actual economies can be carried out.
5. Our recommendations in the main do not affect policy.
W e have not, for I
example, proposed any change in the financial arrangements with L o c a l A u t h o r i t i e s ,
the question of the percentage g r a n t system being under consideration by a Committee
presided over by L o r d Meston.
One l a r g e issue of policy is the effect of clause 24 a in the Pensions W a r r a n t of
the 6th December, 1919, under which W a r Pensions f a l l to be reduced on the 1st A p r i l
next by an amount proportionate to the f a l l in the cost of l i v i n g between 1919 and
1922. T h e resultant saving would be £ 7 or £ 8 millions, and is included in the savings
of £14-]? millions shown in the replies to the T r e a s u r y Circular. I t therefore appears
also in the a g g r e g a t e savings of £ 3 2 millions shown in p a r a g r a p h 4 above.
W e are of o p i n i o n that this matter must be decided by the Cabinet
W e call attention to the passage on page 5 of our R e p o r t on the B o a r d of
Education ( E . ( C . S . ) 5 ) i n d i c a t i n g that the Board are in favour of salaries lower than
those of the B u r n h a m scales being p a i d to new entrants to the teaching profession.
Should an arrangement o f this k i n d be adopted in the case of teachers w e see very
considerable advantages in e x t e n d i n g it to new entrants in other Services.
I n our R e p o r t on the P o l i c e V o t e (E.(C.S.)4, P a r t I I . p a g e 5). w e have expressed
our opinion that i f the present position as to wages is substantially unchanged early
next summer, a revision o f the scales l a i d down in the Desborough R e p o r t should
then be taken in hand, and w e consider that an e x a m i n a t i o n of the question should
be undertaken soon in order that proposals may be ready for Cabinet consideration
early in the new financial year
6. One p o i n t which emerges from our i n v e s t i g a t i o n may have a bearing on the
enquiry by the Committee presided over by the Secretary of State for the Colonies.
T h i s relates to the excessive cost of the M e t r o p o l i t a n P o l i c e employed by Government
Departments.
W e are i n f o r m e d that recently the Office of W o r k s h a v e replaced
thirty-three policemen employed in C i v i l Departments by thirty-one n i g h t watchmen
at a saving o f £250 per annum for each policeman replaced. L a r g e numbers o f the
M e t r o p o l i t a n P o l i c e are employed in the dockyards and arsenals. W e suggest that
a special ad hoc enquiry should be instituted at once i n t o this question, as w e believe
l a r g e economies can be effected.
7. W e are impressed w i t h the value of such enquiries as those which have been
c a r r i e d out by our sub-committees. T h e y have been concluded in good t i m e f o r the
full effect of the recommendations to appear i n the annual estimates, and w e are
i n f o r m e d that a very l a r g e measure of agreement-has been reached w i t h the D e p a r t ­
ments concerned.
W h i l e it cannot be expected that every economy w i l l be immediately accepted
without question, w e most strongly represent to the Cabinet that our recommenda­
tions throughout are safe and moderate, that the full savings are most urgently
required, and that, in the event of objection being taken by any D e p a r t m e n t to par­
ticular economies, i t is the p r i m a r y duty of the D e p a r t m e n t before asking for relief
to investigate anew every branch of its activities with a v i e w to effecting equivalent
;economies in other directions.
W e have no doubt that a close scrutiny of expenditure by the T r e a s u r y and by
the Departments when the o r d i n a r y estimates are in actual p r e p a r a t i o n w i l l produce
further economies, and the figures we have suggested for different V o t e s should be
r e g a r d e d as m a x i m a capable of reduction.
8. F i n a l l y , we have to observe that our recommendations are based on the
assumption that every effort w i l l be made to carry into l a w at the earliest possible
moment the Economy (Miscellaneous P r o v i s i o n s ) B i l l . T h i s is o f v i t a l importance
to the success o f our recommendations as regards Education and certain other
services.
Signed on behalf o f the Committee,
R . S. H O R N E .
1
Treasury Chambers, October 11, 1922.
1
APPENDIX
I.
SUPPLY SERVICES I N ORDINARY BUDGET, 1923-24.
SUMMARY of Provision for Civil Departments.
Original
Estimates,
1922-23.
£ '
Education g r o u p
..
H e a l t h and Lunacy g r o u p
M i n i s t r y of L a b o u r
..
Old A g e Pensions
W a r Pensions
..
R e v e n u e departments
...
Trade group
Agriculture group
..
Colonial group
F o r e i g n group
Police group
H o m e Office g r o u p
..
Works group
Irish g r o u p . .
..
Miscellaneous
Total
1923-24.
.
.".
..
52,172,375
24,145,491
17,797,900
22,615,000
77,968,100
63,663,470
1,515,875
2,928,135
5,950,508
1,645,275
. 6,947,088
2,300,519
7,104,7.17
6,892,609
12,183,597
..
320,374,604
305,830,659
.
,,.
.
.
Net
Decrease
on Group.
Net
Increase
on G r o u p .
£
640,139
689,540
£
52,812,514
24,835,031
14,447,760
22,615,000
89,991,000
66,096,781
'; r,711,580
2,355,853
2,540,235
1,696,622
7,048,725
2,292,081
.
7,582,948
' 9,336,747
15,011,727
..
'
Sketch
Estimates,
12,022,900
2,433,311
195,705
51,347
101,637
478,231
2,444,138
2,828,130
21,885,078
O r i g i n a l E s t i m a t e s , 1922/23
S k e t c h E s t i m a t e s , 1923/24
N e t decrease s h o w n o n D e p a r t m e n t s ' e s t i m a t e s
Further reductions recommended in this Report
T o t a l r e d u c t i o n , b y c o m p a r i s o n w i t h 1922/23....
Further
reductions
recommen­
ded in this
Report.
£
2,233,487
1,147,020
1,938,000
£
mm
3,350,140
8,179,000
1,042,470
369,900
194,640
1,420,277
65,355
572,282
3,410,273
8,438
51,925
300,000
9,000
493,149
7,341,133
17,444,223
320,374,604
305,830,659
14,543,945*
17,444,223
31,988,168*
* T h e s e t w o figures assume the cut of £7 to £8 millions in W a r Pensions, referred t o in paragraph 5 p f
t h e R e p o r t , t o h a v e been effected.
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—
Education
Group—
Board of Education . .
Public Education
Scotland,
U n i v e r s i t i e s and Col­
l e g e s , G r e a t Britain
T o t a l Education
Educatio n
Group
Grou p
Health
and
Lunacy
Group—
M i n i s t r y of H e a l t h . .
Scottish
Board
of
Health
Board
of
Control,
England
General Board of Con­
t r o l , Scotland
T o t a l H e a l t h and
an d
L u n a c y Group
Grou p
Ministry
Old Age
War
of
Labour
Pensions
Pensions
Revenue
Departments—
Customs and Excise . .
Inland R e v e n u e
Post Office..
T o t a l R e v e n u e DepartDepart ­
ment
ments
s
Group—
Trade
B o a r d of T r a d e
Bankruptcy
Depart­
on ent
Department of Over­
seas T r a d e
M e r c a n t i l e Marine . .
M i n e s Department . .
M i n i s t r y of Transport
Total T r a d e Group
Group—
Agriculture
Ministry of A g r i c u l t u r e
and Fisheries
Board of A g r i c u l t u r e
for Scotland
Fishery
Board
for
Scotland
Ordnance S u r v e y
F o r e s t r y Commission
D e v e l o p m e n t Commis­
sion
Total A g r i c u l t u r e
Group
Original
Estimates,
1922/23.
Sketch
Estimates,
11923/24.
£
£
44,900,000
6,713,314
44,621,000
6,352,175
1,199,200
1,199,200
52,812,514
Decrease.
Increase.
£
£
Further
Beductions
recommended
in this
Beport.
£
279,000
361,139
1,971,000
. 262,487
52,172,375
640,139
2,233,487
22,501,562
1,707,922
20,824,800
2,731,168
1,676,762
529,075
521,730
7,345
41,000
96,472
67,793
28,679
1,000
24,835,031
24,145,491
1,712,786
14,447,760
17,797,900
22,615,000
22,615,000
89,991,000
77,968,100
12,022,900
8,179,000
5,120,000
7,154,781
53,822,000
4,920,000
6,974,000
51,769,470'
200,000
180,781
2,052,530
10,000
66,000
966,470
66,096,781
63,663,470
2,433,311
1,042,470
601,498
10
476,925
10
124,573
8,250
342,923
325,450
17,473
25,450
384,915
170,284
211,950
354,930
162,560
196,000
29,985
7,724
15,950
270,200
6,000
60,000
1,711,580
1,515,875
195,705
369,900
1,834,804
1,834,159
645
45,500
275,953
401,147
125,194
86,660
52,450
65,779
13,329
18,480
172,646
20,000
170,050
207,000
250,000
2,596'
187,000
250,000
44,000
2,355,853
2,928,135
3,241
575,523
194,640
1,023,246
860,000
245,020
1,023,246
1,147,020
3,350,140
1,938,000
.
Original
Estimates,
1922/23.
Sketch
Estimates,
1923/24.
Decrease.
£
£
Further
Reductions
- Increase. ,* recommended
in this
Report.
£
£
674,637
1,865,598
3,137,632
2,812,876
2,462,995
947,278
1,161,277
259,000
2,540,235
5.950,508
3,410,273
1,420 277
244,679
1,451,943
241.736
1,403,539
2,943
. 48,404
15,810
49,545
1,696,622
1,645,275
51,347
65,355
Police Group —
Police—
England and W a l e s
Scotland
6,292,025
756,700
6,190,388
756,700
101,637
Total Pol ice, Group
7,048,725
6,947,088
101,637
368,956
358,990
9,966
1,166,804
196,100
1,214,254
190,200
' 5,900
455,000
105,221
439,325
97,750
15,675
7,471
Office
Offic e
2,292,081
2,300,519
39,012
Works Group—W o r k s , & c , i n Class
Clas s I
Rate
Ratess o n G o v e r n m e n t
Property
5,616,500
1,966,448
5,379,617
1,725,100
236,883
241,348
300,000
7,582,948
7,104,717
478,231
300,000
9,336,747
6,892,609
2,444,138
9,000
15,011,727
12,183,597
2,828,130
493,149
Colonial
Group—
Colonial Office
Colonial Services
T o t a l Colonial C r o u p
Foreign
Group—
Foreign Office
Diplomatic and Con­
sular Services
Total Foreign Group
Home Ojjice
Group—
H o m e Office
Prisons—
England
Scotland..
K e f o r i n a t o r y and I n ­
dustrial S c h o o l s —
England
Scotland
Tota
Totall Hom e
Group
Grou p
T o t a l W o r k s Group
Irish
Group
Miscellaneous
Votes
£
--
47,450
36,000
1,600
14,325
47,450
51,925
B SPORTS OF SUB-C0MMITTSi5S.
(Cog.) 4 ,
F i r s t Commissioner
Sub-Committee.
of
Work^s
Foreign
Office.
Colonial
Office.
Home O f f i c e ,
(C.S.)
5.
Financial Secretary
Sub-Cdmmittee.
(0,8.)
6.
S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e
Sub-Cdmmittee.
0,3J
7.
Financial Secretary
ub-Committee
((J.S.)
8.
Chancellor of
Committee.
to
the
for
Treasury
p AST I .
Ministry
PAIJT I I .
S c o t t i s h Board
PAST I I I .
Board
PART I V .
G e n e r a l Board o f
Control, Scotland.
to
P u b l i c Works
Buildings.
and
Agriculture,
etc.
the
Exchequers
JC.S.)
9.
C h a n c e l l o r of
Committee ,
10.
S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e
Sub-Committee
Education.
India's
Treagury's
Sub-
of
of
Health.
of
Health..
Control,Sngland.
PART
I.
Ministry
PAST
II.
Board o f A g r i c u l t u r e ,
Scotland.
of
Agriculture
PART I I I
F i s h e r y , Board
Scotland.
P ART,^IY.
Ordnance
Survey.
Forestry
Commission.
PART V I .
C.S.)
fee-
E x c h e q u e r s SubT
for
Development
Trade
for
Fund.
Groups.
War s
T
PART^I
M i n i s t r y of
Labour.
PART
Ministry
Pensions.
II.
of
.
X
.
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N E T .
COMMITTEE OH NATIONAL
EXPENDITURE.
LORD CRAWFORD'S SUB-CO ISdlTTEE
R E P O R T .
We w e r e a p p o i n t e d a s a S u b - C o m m i t t e e
Committee
for
the
on E x p e n d i t u r e ,
following
Votes
to
for
examine
the
year
the
the Sketch
Cabinet
Estimates
1923-4.
Foreign Office
Diplomatic
of
Glass
II
Vote
6,
and
Consular
Services
Class
V
Vote
1.
Colonial
Office
Class
II
Vote
7.
Colonial Services
Class
V
Vote
2.
Home O f f i c e
Class
II
Vote
5.
Class
III
Vote
7*
Class
III
Vote
14.
Class
Class
III
III
Vote
Vote
8.
15.
Class
III
Vote
9.
Class
III
Vote
16,
Police,
England
and
Waleso
Police,
Scotland
P r i s o n s , E n g l a n d and
Wales.
Prisons, Scotland
R e f o r m a t o r i e s and
Industrial Schools
E n g l a n d and W a l e s ,
R e f o r m a t o r i e s and
Industrial Schools,
Scotland.
We h a v e
of
discussed
the Departments
these
Estimates
concerned,
with
representatives
and we now b e g
to
submit
it
would
our
report.
As S i r
appropriate
Office
the
John B a i r d d i d
not
consider
for
him t o
take
group of
Votes,
the Report
sake o f
Scotland,
convenience
the V t e
and R e f o r m a t o r i e s
is
submitted as a deparate
is
alone
responsible.
part
0
in
the
that
examination
on t h e s e
for
Votes,
Police,
and I n d u s t r i a l
section for
of
be
the
including
Home
for
Scotland, Prisons
Schools,
which Lord
Scotland,
Crawford
P
Foreign
Office
ART
1^
- Diplomatic
Colonial
Office
and C o n s u l a r
and C o l o n i a l
Services.
Services.
FOREIGN OFFICE,
Class
II,
fcote
6.
fi.
1913/14 A u d i t e d E x p e n d i t u r e .
1921/22 E s t i m a t e s
Transfer
£212,520
67,868
plus
from Navy E s t i m a t e s
32,214)
)
26,000)
Supplementary Estimatej
270, 734
1922/23 E s t i m a t e s .
244,679
1923/24 S k e t c h E s t i m a t e s .
241,736
At
our r e q u e s t
with the Foreign
into
the
and t h e
been g i v e n
School
Office
staffing
Passport
the Treasury have
oarried
arrangements
Office,
out
of
the
staff
required
and t o
the
necessity
for
reductions
provision
are
of
these
made i n
the Foreign
Office
retaining
the
services
the F o r e i g n
the S k e t c h E s t i m a t e
Office.
the
School.
Higher D i v i s i o n
Staff.
Staff
engaged
"Articles
on
of
­
Junior
1,100.
700
editing
Peace
"Treaties"
800
Administrative
Assistants
Registry (surrender
margin of twelve
clerks)
Reduction
in
of
750
of
3,060
Bonus.
6,000
" Total.
£15,810
following
Office
3,400.
Code and C y p h e r
also
officials.
£.
Passport
Registry
c o n s i d e r a t i o n has
investigations,
now p r o p o s e d b y
investigations
I n t h e Code and C y p h e r
c e r t a i n Temporary Higher D i v i s i o n
As a r e s u l t
conjunction
detailed
and f u r t h e r
to
in
We/
in
the
Re hope howe-ver- - t h a t . fhnrther^ "T^duxrtijC^ris^rlll^J^^
possible
the
In the R e g i s t r y
Passport
Office),
Staff,
on t h e l i n e s
submitted by the Treasury
Sections
a
the Estimate
reduced
to
for this
total
Vote
as t o t h e s t a f f i n g
f o r the year
o f £225,^26^
-
3 ­
of
1923/24
and a t o t a l
f o r 1922/23,
m
report
these
the n e t t o t a l
i . e . a redaction
as s u b m i t t e d ,
£ 1 8 , $ 5 3 on t h e E s t i m a t e
extent
suggested i n t h e
M e a n w h i l e we recommend t h a t
on t h e S k e t c h E s t i m a t e
of
(and t o a l e s s e r
...
of
s h o u l d be
of
£15,810
reduction
DIPLOMATIC .*P]) q o r J S f J l A R SERVICES.
CLASS V - VOTE I .
£.
1913/14 Audited Expenditure.
-
692.. 376
1921/22 Estimates
Ordinary Services (net) 2,053, 137
War Services (net)
vj.
60. 000
B, 118. 187
1922/23 Estimates
Ordinary Servicea (net)
1,464,443
War Services (net) Surplus of Apuropriau
tionB-in-AidT
*
12, 500
1,451,943
1923/24 Sketch Estimates
Ord inary Se rvicos
War Services (in
ordinary Budget)
1,371,039
32,000
1,403/529
The net total of the Sketch Estimate for ordinary Services
for 1923/24 shows a net reduction of £93,404 on the Estimate for
the year 1922/23.
£58,550.of. this reduction is, however, attri­
butable to a decrease in the sum to be provided under Subhead LL
(Refund to India in respect of Eastern Services) an adjustment
of charges between Imperial and India funds over which the
foreign Office has little control.
DIPLOMATIC),SEEEICB .
. .
The provision for the Diplomatic service in the tketch
Estimate is £620,744 or a redaction of only £544 on the Estimate
for 1922/23.
After discussion with us, the Eoreign Office have
proposed the following reductions in the Sketch Estimate
(1)
Exchange compensation (owing to move- . .
ments in the rate cf exchange)
, 3,000.'
(2)
Elimination of the suggested.provision
for a Minister in Russia
g, 000
(3)
Reduction in cost of Mission to Moscow
1,500 :
(4)
Elimination Oof' provision, for the
suggested. Mission to Transcaucasia ...
2, 9 00
£12,400
We/
3 5$
We a c c o r d i n g l y
Sketch Estimate f o r
recommended a r e d u c t i o n
the D i p l o m a t i c
of
Service by
the
£12.400-
CONSULAR SERVICES.
-
11
i
­
wm
After
­
­
J- - ­ ­
1 [ r
d i s c u s s i o n w i t h \XB, the. F o r e i g n O f f i c e
proposed the f o l l b w i n g
reductions
hatfe
i n t h e p r o v i s i o n made
in
the Sketch ­ E s t i m a t e ; ­
(1)
The a b o l i t i o n o f 2 C o n s u l a t e s and
5 V i c e - C o n s u l a t e s , and ^ho r e d u c t i o n
of 2 Consulates to Vice^Consulatos,
a t a s a y i n g on Subhead N. o f . . . . . . . . . .
( 2 ) , A r e d u c t i o n i n t h e p r o v i s i o n made
f o r P r o b a t i o n e r s In the Levant
........
Service;. of *
( 3 ) A r e d u c t i o n i n t h e amoiiht
f o r Rent a l l o w a n c e s o f
£6,805
1,500
allowed
,
14,000
( 4 ) A r e d u c t i o n i n t h e amount p r o v i d e d
f o r L o c a l Allowances td O f f i c e r s
t e m p o r a r i l y attached td expensive
posts.. i i . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
i,06o
( 5 ) A r e d u c t i o n on a c c o u n t o f the o f f i c e
- a l l o w a n c e s p a y a b l e i n c u r r e n c y due
t o t h e r a t e s of. e x c h a n g e a t which
these allowances are p a i d . *
(6)
(7)
15,000
The e l i m i n a t i o n o f t h e sum o f
. £4,000 provided, f o r compensation
f o r l o s s o f e f f e c t s i n enemy t e r r i ­
t o r y , on t h e u n d e r s t a n d i n g t h a t an
a r r a n g e m e n t i s made f o r t h e s e t t l e ­
ment o f a l l o u t s t a n d i n g c a s e s
b e f o r e t h e end o f t h e c u r r e n t
financial year,....
4,000
R e d u c t i o n i n t h e sum p r o v i d e d u n d e r
subhead p . S p e c i a l S e r v i c e s , O u t ­
f i t s aad T r a v e l l i n g . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
2,000
( 8 ) A r e d u c t i o n in t h e p r o v i s i o n under
Subhead R. I n c i d e n t a l E x p e n s e s o f . . . . . .
( 9 ) R e d u c t i o n s i n Subheads W , X , Y , A A ,
and F F , ( F a r E a s t e r n S e r v i c e s
. I n c i d e n t a l E x p e n s e s , e t c . ) , amount­
ing in a l l t o . . . . . . .
(10)
1,000
.,3,214
S a v i n g on t h e s t a f f s e m p l o y e d on
Passport ( c o n t r o l abroad, in Holland
S w i t z e r l a n d , I t a l y , Spain,.Portugal
and L u x e m b u r g , as a r e s u l t o f t h e
d e c i s i o n as t o t h e m u t u a l a b o l i t i o n
of visas with these c o u n t r i e s . . . . . . . . .
TOTAL .
6,000
£54,445
Against/
Against
(1)
(S)
these
s a v i n g s must "be
The a d d i t i o n a l p r e v i s i o n ,
conditionally,
a p p r o v e d by t h e T r e a s u r y f o r the
B r i t i s h School at C a i r o . . . . . . . . . . . .
£1,300
The l o s s on v i e s f o e s w i t h t h e
c o u n t r i e s mentioned In (10) above
£16,000.
i.e.
..........
£17,300
Tho t o t a l n e t S a v i n g p r o p o s e d on t h e
Consular S e r v i c e s i s t h e r e f o r e . . . . . . . .
£37,145
We t r u s t ,
will
however,
be found p o s s i b l e
finally
closed.
the n e t
total
£1,581,484,
Estimates
for
of
the T o t e
a total
that
this
certain
Vote
and
Ordinary
additional
before
the
we recommend t h e
for
a reduction
of
ordinary
Services
reduction
Services
reduction
for
be
is
of
to
Sketch
of
1922-23.
War S e r v i c e s , t h e
1923/24 w i l l
savings
estimate
£ 4 9 , 5 4 5 on t h e
a total
£32,500 f o r
for
of
on t h i s v o t e
Meanwhile
as submitted
the p r o v i s i o n
of
in
i,e.
the E s t i m a t e
total
set
£142,949
on
Including
revised
£1,353,994.
C O L O K I A l
CLASS I I
Q ? ?' I
C E .
* VQT3 7 .
£.
1913/14 A u d i t e d E x p e n d i t u r e
1921/22 E s t i m a t e s ,
£854,104
60,169
plus
Supplementary E s t i m a t e
Transfer
from
330,000
Class V-3
20,000
1,204,104
1922/23 E s t i m a t e s
674,637
1923/24 S k e t c h E s t i m a t e s
Subhead A .
Salaries
Subhead B .
incidental
I n the
that
since
one o r
two m i n o r
the p r o v i s i o n a l
Department,
staff
etc.
Expenses.
Course o f
Vfe U n d e r s t a n d t h a t
our e n q u i r i e s
economies
staff
ascertained
have been
staffing
of
certain
sections
the K i d d l e E a s t Department
and
is
shortly
we do n o t p r o p o s e arry m o d i f i c a t i o n
of
the p r o v i s i o n
that
these
Irish
subheads a t
the present
time.
some r e d u c t i o n may b e found p o s s i b l e
Estimate
is
effected
AS h o w e v e r ,
business,
under
required for
in
we h a v e
E s t i m a t e was s u b m i t t e d i
the
notably
3,137,632
of
the
t o be
We t r u s t
before
the
reviewed,
proposed
however,
the
closed.
OVERSEAS SETTLEMENT.
General.
G.Grindle'8
From t h e t e r m s 6 f t h e o f f i c i a l l e t t e r f r o m t h e
er o f
li J u l y
C o l o n i a l o f f i c e to t h e Treasury c o v e r i n g the Sketch E s t i m a t e
fe.
Mr.
a' l e t t e r
f o r 1 9 2 3 - 4 i t a p p e a r s t o us t h a t t h e e s t i m a t e o f t h e
B4th
pst
1922.
expenditure
to be i n c u r r e d
f r a m e d by t h e O v e r s e a
consultation with
on O v e r s e a
Settlement
the Secretary
Settlement has
C o m m i t t e e w i t h o u t any
of
State
and h i s
advisers.
The/
-
7 ii.
been
close
immediate
The schemes u n d e r t h e E m p i r e " S e t t l e m e n t
involve
liabilities
extending
over a period
a maximum e x p e n d i t u r e
of
Secretary
responsible
schemes
of
State
i3
and t h e e x p e n d i t u r e
the utmost
importance
Accounting
Officer
schemes
of
Was u n t i l
this
course,
arrangement'
the
affecting
Overseas
C.l.
Since
this
Subhead
the
Salaries
of
the
Colonel
Secretary
of
Overseas
the p r o v i s i o n a l
C.2.
Travelling
it
is
of
of
the
the
excellent
Amery,
of
to
State
who
State
the
the
for
post
Admiralty,
on a l l
Settlement
Estimate
matters
Office.
was f r a m e d
result
arrange­
in reducing
the
cost
£3,277.
and I n c i d e n t a l
subhead i n c l u d e s
we u n d e r s t a n d
the
men t C o m m i t t e e w i l l
have
the y e a r
these
in
while holding
Secretary
of
the assumption that
in
The
Settlement.
by
expenses;
with
personal.
continued,
staff
This
Vote,
Under S e c r e t a r y
m e n t s h a v e b e e n made w h i c h w i l l
of
and t h a t
Office
whereby
and F i n a n c i a l
to
for
and we t h i n k
i n t e n d no c r i t i c i s m
since
t o be r e s p o n s i b l e
15 y e a r s
o b s e r v a t i o n we h a v e n o t h a d i n m i n d ,
1921 p a r l i a m e n t a r y
Of p a r l i a m e n t a r y
1922
any o n e y e a r .
interest,
and
of
to parliament
Colonial
now p r e v a i l i n g
the C o l o n i e s , has
Subhead
that his
for
in
involved
should be immediate
I n making
and w e ,
£3,000,000
Act
a sum d f
that
this
£2,500 f o r
estimate
Chairman o f
to v i s i t
Expenses.
is
travelling
based
the Overseas
two o r
three
on
Settle­
Dominions
1923-4.
We thiffik
this
e s t i m a t e might
safely
be r e d u c e d
by
£500.
Subhead C . 5 .
w
Subhead
Free
e make no
C.4.
passages.
observations.
Grants
to Voluntary
We h a v e no o b j e c t i o n
grants
to voluntary
to
societies
the
Societies.
continuance
made u n d e r t h i s
of
existing
subhead.
We/
360
We recommend t h a t any
head
s h o u l d be
societies
n
charge
to
on t h e b&Bis o f
1922)
at
(against
t o be c a r r i e d
out
Funds.
28,000 i n
cost
Funds o f
We t h i n k
of
£1,200,000 f o r
reduced, t o £ 1 , 1 0 0 , 0 0 0
to
take
flow
of migration
Assisted
is
arrived
to A u s t r a l i a
ended 30th
Funds o f
at
and
June
£ 6 8 5 , 9 8 5 and
t o Canada a t a t o t a l
cost
of
to
£389,250.
that having
will
the year
Imperial
30,000 persons m i g r a t i n g
for
c o n n e x i o n w i t h JSmtptre
52,000 persons m i g r a t i n g
a total
Imperial
to
passages.
subsequently
Hew Z e a l a n d
in
sub­
1981.
m
The s u g g e s t e d p r o v i s i o n
passages,
this
as p r a c t i c a b l e ,
otherwise have
Imperial
Settlement Act,
As s i s t e d
so f a r
out a c t i v i t i e s
w h i c h w oil I d
as a d i r e c t
Empire
confined,
carrying
Settlement
f r e s h g r a n t s made under
regard
Land S e t t l e m e n t
largely
sufficient
to
calculate
proceeding
to A u s t r a l i a
to
the
Schemes,
depends,
time which
on w h i c h an
to mature,
on t h e b a s i s
of
it
40,000
and Hew Z e a l a n d i n
it
increased'
w o u l d be
migrants
the y e a r
1923-4.
The C a n a d i a n Government h a s n o t
in
the past
adopted
t h e A u s t r a l i a n and Hew Z e a l a n d p o l i c y
of
offering
reduced
passages
not y e t
to approved migrants
signified
Government
of
the
shortly
Oversea
for
for
Settlement
co-operate
the. p u r p o s e
of
the A c t ,
discussing
concerned,
are
closed.
p r o v i s i o n which w i l l
to
The
and we s u g g e s t
especially
that
Canada i n a d d i t i o n
Canada
as
that
the
the
total
Assisted Passages
to
for
40,000
of
the p r o ­
so f a r
M e a n w h i l e we t h i n k t h a t
for
Chairman
to v i s i t
should be r e v i e w e d b e f o r e
be r e q u i r e d
Majesty's
the p o s s i b i l i t i e s
b e assumed t o b e £ 8 0 0 , 0 0 0 , w h i c h w o u l d a l l o w
21,000 migrants
and h a s
with His
Committee p r o p o s e s
Assisted passages,
Dominion i s
Estimates
to
country
i n a schem,e f o r A s s i s t e d p a s s a g e s . .
c o - o p e r a t i o n under
vision
its desire
from t h i s
nearly
to
Australia.Land/'
should
La nd S e 111ement
Schernes.
The s u g g e s t e d p r o v i s i o n
of
£1,500,000
i s made up as
follows:Victoria
West
450,000,
Australia
487,000
say
37,000
500,000
Canada
750,000
Other p a r t s
of
The V i c t o r i a
to
settlers
holdings
for
will
the
Scheme i s
based
the purchase,
be
s h a r e d by
m e n t s and r e c o v e r e d
250,000
Empire
on t h e p r i n c i p l e
equipment
the B r i t i s h
from the
settlers
that
and s t o c k i n g
and V i c t o r i a
of
loans
their
Govern­
over a period
of
36
years.
Under a scheme o f
required
to provide
repayment
in
Under
capital
small
a large
and t h e B r i t i s h
equivalent
to
so r a i s e d ,
will
sum a t
out
of
loans
small
but
of
b e a d v a n c e d by
to be r a i s e d
share
for
of
by t h e D o m i n i o n
t h i s - type
and i s m o r e o v e r
course
no p a r t
and w i l l
the whole of
contribution,
its
be
receive
period.
Scheme
the' i n t e r e s t
represent
expenditure
6 years,
of
Government':S
l/ord
relatively
the outset
t h e scheme w i l l
Under a scheme o f
5 or
the Exchequer w i l l
the Western A u s t r a l i a
D o m i n i o n Government
is
type
sums o v e r a l o n g
r e q u i r e d by
coverable
this
the
for
the
purpose
be
on t h e
estimated
loans
irre­
Government.
call
on t h e
spread over
of
the
which w i l l
5-years
the
the
the
Exchequer
a period
contribution
of
is
recoverable.
The p r o v i s i o n
estimate
of
£450,000 i n c l u d e d
i n the
for
the V i c t o r i a ,
scheme r e p r e s e n t s
Government's
contribution
in
1,500
farmers.
The p r o v i s i o n
scheme r e p r e s e n t s
year
to
the
cost
the B r i t i s h
of
settling
1923/4 t o
of
the
the
co3t
£37,000 f o r
Government's
2,000
sketch
British
of
settling
t h e We3t
Australia
contribution
farmers.
The/
in
that
The
striking
difference
Exchequer under t h e s e
from these
position
of
conform t o
this
is
two t y p e s
comparative
We a c c o r d i n g l y
this
consider
raise
country
loans
settlers
would i n a y e a r
stage
case..
informed
of
to propose
the
that
any a l t e r a t i o n
basis
of
the
for
Victoria
reasonable
settlers
at
in
estimate
since
the
for
and
Government
advances
repayments
charges
on
to
by
loans
of
difficult
with
the V i c t o r i a
our
contribution
that
the matter
at
Government
in
that
should be
The change w o u l d n o t
scheme i t s e l f ,
the
two
but merely
necessl­
the
Governments.
doubt w h e t h e r t h e p r o v i s i o n
as a t p r e s e n t
pro­
contemplated,
year,
we t h i n k w o u l d be £ 3 0 0 , 0 0 0
for
having
c a n be
C o l o n e l Araery h a s
We a l s o
regard
A more
(viz.:
1,000
i n Canada
seems
learn ^the
the f a c t
as t o
from
the
that
no
by
factor
Scheme i n
but
sum r e q u i r e d
of migrants
i n Dominions
considered
schemes
no
until
Canad.a.
eligibility
be a m a t e r i a l
on Land S e t t l e m e n t s
to
the Canadian a u t h o r i t i e s
returned
now b e i n g
decision w i l l
Land S e t t l e m e n t
expressed
c o u n t r y who a r e a l r e a d y
is
to provide
eombrig f i n a n c i a l
b e e n p r o p o s e d by
opinion
the Act
should
£300).
us p r e m a t u r e
final
apparent
financial
schemes
w o u l d be v e r y
scheme,
the
The sum p r o p o s e d
have y e t
the
them.
between
considerable
be r e q u i r e d
be
when t h e D o m i n i o n
Government-.
We f e e l
the
to
however,
adjustments
on
type wherever p o s s i b l e ,
two c o v e r
negotiations
We c o n s i d e r . ,
financial
to
or
that i t
a different
discussed with
will
serious,
c a p i t a l p u r p o s e a,
to provide; advances
We a r e
posed
remains
sufficient
and o t h e r
raised
schemes w i l l
t h a t - so l o n g as t h e
the Western A u s t r a l i a
to
call
figures..
settlers
tate
of
s h o u l d we t h i n k be p o s s i b l e
able
this
i n the immediate
for
from
assistance
t h e Law O f f i c e r s
in estimating
the
this
under
whose
outlay
1923-4.
We/
We a r e
a total
disposed
provision
to
6f
consider
£750,000
that
for
on p r e s e n t
indications
Land S e t t l e m e n t
s h o u l d he
am.ple.Xf a l l schemes w e r e t o c o n f o r m t o t h e W e s t e r n A u s t r a l i a
type,'
the p r o v i s i o n
think
that
Estimates
required
the p o s i t i o n
are
closed
which
should
Loans
to r e l i e v e
hitherto
unless
given with
that
of
Cor4irge.ncles
bute a t
least
long
the
this
run.
cost
and t h e
less
iyely
is
on t h e O v e r s e a
informed
immediate.
engaged
this
in
figure
t h i s work,
Dominion Governments
of
equal
funds
Societies
cost
of
willing
of
but,
Society,
the
haading
to
only
contri­
the
Committee
that
a sum
the
Treasury
is
obtained.
Migration.
settlement
form o f
gives
Committee
settlement
in
as r e g a r d s
children,
to
the
case
this
the
of
adults,
country
which has been
estimated
cost
Committee a r e
are
act­
at
of
£90
opinion
reduced.
it
i s proposed
and V o l u n t a r y
by
the
to
co-operate
Societies
three p a r t i e s ,
c a n , --with t h i s
than they have h i t h e r t o
the B r i t i s h
Oversea
Settlement
that
contributions
Voluntary
is
concurrence
this
that
under
not
likely
should be g i v e n
p e r head than i n
One- V o l u n t a r y
We u n d e r s t a n d
w o u l d be
We s u g g e s t
and e c o n o m i c b e n e f i t s
c a n be
it
Settlement
the
question
the Oversea
o v e r s e a s has
C h i l d and Y o u t h f u l
that
much g r e a t e r
financial
information
Funds and we t h i n k
assistance
and t h e p r i o r
We do n o t
the
Overseas.
should be p r o v i d e d
and t h a t
half
fuller
settlers
discretion
a s t h e most h o p e f u l
per head but
that
to
repercussions.
and A s s i s t i n g
We a r e
regard
relief
t h e Dominion Government
representative
Stimulating
the
from I m p e r i a l
than £4,000
i n c a s e s whore
of
among s e t t l e r s
the utmost
to have undesirable
not more
light
We
available.
been p r o v i d e d
of
the
distress
We u n d e r s t a n d
much s m a l l e r .
s h o u l d he r e v i e w e d b e f o r e
in
t h e n be
w o u l d he v e i y
done,
on t h e
but,
inducement,
the
effect
with
basis
unless
raise
the
more
would be
a n d D o m i n i o n G o v e r n m e n t s w o u l d staare e q u a l l y
that
the
increased migration.
We
are/
We a r e
to
of
opinion
any a u t h o r i t y
sent
overseas
now b e i n g
that,
the
in excess
sent
sum n o t
serious,
of
the
in this
s h o u l d be made
respect
children
children
or o r g a n i s a t i o n
financial
schemes
of
number o f
authority
£50 a h e a d i n
situation
all
that youthful
is
limited
(including
age,
and
migration
that
contemplated.
moderate
expenditure
there
clear
the
to
Aiding
that
of
its
a brief
We s e e
on t r a i n i n g
evidence
of
the
the work of
to
children,
fore
there
it
in
these
voluntary
schemes
for
juveniles,
of
cost
should not be
Societies
provision is
provision
covers
persons
period
of
and t h a t
Assisted passages
the m i g r a t i o n
and women.
Voluntary
for
type
Societies,
schemes
to
of
f o r which
We c o n s i d e r
that
Assisted passage
the p r o v i s i o n s
the Act
should not g e n e r a l l y
extension of
activities,
the p r o p o s e d p r o v i s i o n
Youthful
Migration,
b u t we
for
of
to
special
example
separate
item
under
Schemes.
the
f o r w o r k by
successful
should
t h e Work o f
Estimates.
conform
secretary
the
suggest
£150,000 f o r
and A i d i n g
v/hich
For
exceed h a l f
do n o t
that
of
nature
and t h a t
there­
contributions
i s made i n t h e
this
of
extent,
stimulate
no p r o v i s i o n
any shemes o f
of
to
relates
in respect
be necessary
contribution
in
the
societies
calculated
settlement,
least
We c o n s i d e r
for
P r o v i s i o n may, h o w e v e r ,
to
To a l a r g e
separate p r o v i s i o n
of
that
the
and s e t t l e m e n t
should be i n c l u d e d as a
the general heading
to
societieg.
the p r o v i s i o n proposed
contributions
training
cases- p r o v i d e d
a l r e a d y made i n t h e E s t i m a t e s ' .
for
of
State.
Overlaps with other p r o v i s i o n s .
Voluntary
total
no o b j e c t i o n
usefulness
Secretary
We und.ersts.nd t h a t
largely
this
unless
to a
Domlniori G o v e r n m e n t s a r e p r e p a r e d t o ^ c o n t r i b u t i e ? $ a t
equal
in
should not be agreed
is
and
fares).
leaving
country
is
the p r e s e n t
1
and. r a i l
school
in
State a contribution
We u n d e r s t a n d
at
only
any r a t e a s t h e
exceeding
passages
of
o v e r s e a s by t h e
remains
Secretary
contributions
or organisation
so l o n g a t
country
that
Child
any
of
State s
c o s t -of
!
the
alteration
Migration,
Voluntary
Societies/
Societies.
Training.
will
be
We h a v e g r a v e
s e r v e d by
though i t
training
is possible
c o u n t r y may t e n d
to
c a s e we c o n s i d e r
that
until
are prepared
at present
of
to bear
known.
such s c h e m e s ,
at
if
b e pre.po.red t o
period
the
any,
co-operate
We t h i n k
It
must b e remembered t h a t
that
of
this
I n any
approved
clearly
concerned
cost.
in training
Governments
overseas
is
co-operate
£50,000 f o r
this provision
the Estimates
are
not—
in
training
should, h o w e v e r
finally
the Empire S e t t l e m e n t
an a n n u a l e x p e n d i t u r e
not e x c e e d i n g
Act
closed.
1922
three
million
Settlement.
The r e v i s e d
estimate
follows:­
suggested
for
£.
etc.,
B. I n c i d e n t a l s
Overseas
the
in
applicants.
to which the Overseas
to review before
Salaries
testing
s h o u l d be
the proposed p r o v i s i o n
p o u n d s on E m p i r e
adults,
expenditure has been
least half
subject
contemplates
unsuitable
of
purpose
the Dominion Governments
be
Cl.
a brief
for
Should t h e s e Governments
may b e r e q u i r e d .
A.
country
no such schemes
and u n l e s s
The e x t e n t ,
will
that
in this
eliminate
the usefulness
demonstrated,
d o u b t s w h e t h e r any u s e f u l
140,000
4,140
Settlement
Salaries
18,115
C.2.
Travelling
etc.,
C.3.
Eree passages
C.4.
Grant t o V o l u n t a r y
Societies
2,600
50,000
7,500
t h i s Vote
is
as
aaspEiroiTUKss
i g t e
EMPIRE
SETTLEMENT ACT *
Assisted Passages
800,000^
Land S e t t l e m e n t
750,000^
Contingencies
4,000*
(
Child Migration
)
j
Youthful
j
150,000!
Migration
1,754,000
A i d i n g t h e work o f
Voluntary S o c i e t i e s
Training
50,0001
TOTAL
i.e.
a reduction of
Sketch Estimate
increase
of
Estimate
for
of
£1,151,277
£3,137,632,
£ 1 , 3 0 1 , 7 1 8 on the
1922-3
.
on
the
"tout an
original
1,976,355
COLONIAL SERVICES..
CLASS V
VOTE & ,
£781,195,
1*917,027
£
2,117,027.
200,000
1,865,598
2,fil2,876.
The t o t a l
for
the
year
for
the Sketch Estimate
the e s t i m a t e
i s however
"Rhodesia
of
be r e q u i r e d
to incorporation
We u n d e r s t a n d t h a t
of
this
date
financial
of
year.
i n the
non-recurrent
event
of
the
Government
the Union o f
of
increase
£ 8 3 0 , 0 0 0 u n d e r Subhead E 7 ,
Responsible
in
Vote
a net
current
only
the r e s u l t
South
in
Africa.
the referendum w i l l
be
November*
Some s a v i n g may a l s o
A8 G r a n t
the
this
Public Works" a
Rhode n$£ o p t i n g f o r
preference
known I n
for
included for
Purchase
charge which w i l l
people of
for
1923/24 i s £ 2 ^ 6 1 2 ^ 8 7 6 , i . e .
£947,278 over
Provision
of
I n a i d of
Southern Rhodesia,
s a v i n g cannot
administration
For
the
pres;ent
these
under
of
Subhead
but t h e
be f o r c a s t e d u n t i l
the
as r e g a r d s
be l o o k e d f o r
it
amount
is
known on what
t h e C h a r t e r e d Company w i l l
therefore
contingent
no r e c o m m e n d a t i o n
end.
c a n b e made
obligations.
S o m a l i l a n d . Subhead A4^
The g r a n t
administration
In aid of
expenditure
at £75,000, a figure
have
t o be
the excess
over
of
local
the cost
revenues
which the C o l o n i a l
Office
of
is
estimated
t h i n k may
Increased.
We s e e no p r o s p e c t
appreciably
diminished
Information
submitted
of
in
this
grant
the f u t u r e .
t o us as t o
the
in aid
After
being
hearing
advantages
to
the
be
/derived
derived
from the
occupation
the q u e s t i o n whether
of. t h e
territory
which d e s e r v e s
Government
the
benefits
justify
the
S d r a a l i l a n d , - we t h i n k
submit might
serious
continued
consideration
and s t r a t e g i c
suitably
of
the heavy annual
Many D e p a r t m e n t s
0
political
Ministers
the
of
of
State
questions
be r e f e r r e d
occupation
cost
of
is
His
are
that
one
Majesty's
concerned
in
involved,.which
we
t o a Committee
of
c
Ugandao.Subhead A 4 .
Since
Colonial
total
will
the
Provisional
Office
grant
not
of
of
reduced t o
£350,000
the
in
i n the Sketch
the y e a r
1923/24.
that
annual I n s t a l m e n t
subject
to
Parliament
the C o l o n i a l
the
the y e a r
Office,
are
3 years
able o
The t o t a l
if
therefore
the
present
Protectorate's
of
the
the
in the
amount
ffe
of
-p^^Sd^"
this
£150,000
voted
immediately
arrangement
in
1923/4
be g r a n t e d i n
total
sum o£
ultimately
figure
the
understand
already
to accept
promised w i l l
in the
each
one
be
avail­
Sketch
£200,000,
capital
development
s h o u l d be made a t
and t h e
£150,000
so that
on N a t i o n a l
any f u r t h e r
Funds f o r
Estimate
Development
1922/23 b e i n g
reduction
The C o m m i t t e e
the
that £150,000 w i l l
pounds o r i g i n a l l y
is
of
prepared
million
that
the
thereby
accordingly.
a reduced instalment
succeeding
Estimate
of
2 years
instalment
on t h e u n d e r s t a n d i n g
the
of
The
1923/24 i s
period
diminished
the
for
which i n v o l v e s
of
in
the
£250,000.
L o a n s h o u l d be e x t e n d e d f o r
by
£100,000
included
sum r e q u i r e d
We c o n s i d e r
that
was f r a m e d
h a v e i n f o r m e d us t h a t
be r e q u i r e d
estimate
Estimate
is
purposes
same t i m e
Expenditure
recommended
p r o v i d e d from
i n Uganda,
for
War E x p e n d i t u r e
Imperial
arrangements
the l i q u i d a t i o n
liability.
of
We a r e
/informed
informed
that
that
Uganda
the Secretary
shall
a n n u a l payments
any b a l a n c e
the
time
of
the
the
proceeds
such
of
observations
It
Uganda
is
affect
that
of
tb
the
precise
the
Governor
consider
is
a fair
on a c c o u n t
to
of
not
of
the
1923/4 o f
its
of
the
the
be d e t e r m i n e d
the S e c r e t a r y
the
until
been
obtained
of
the
State's
question,
a n y payments made
by
Liability
proposed grant
to allow
all
would
and w o u l d n o t
that
s h o u l d be
somewhat r e t a r d e d ,
the grant
we t h i n k
t h e Works programme a t
Research.
Subhead
On t h e S k e t c h E s t i m a t e ,
proposed.
activities
of
restoration
that
and we recommend
to
regard
it
is
contemplated
the
reduction
£750,000.
B5.
an i n c r e a s e
from
£1,000
that
the
the C o l o n i a l Research Committee
of
situation,
prepared to accept, t h i s
execution
present
But we u n d e r s t a n d
with a grant
the f i n a n c i a l
the
of
Nevertheless,.having
i n a i d by £ 5 0 , 0 0 0
Is
of
in aid
the works o f
stringency
essential
to
out
at
Vote.
required.
to the acute f i n a n c i a l
be f i n a n c e d
l o a n on
a s an E x t r a R e c e i p t
Services
that
which a r e u r g e n t l y
existing
imrepaid
amount o f
t h e War E x p e n d i t u r e
sufficient
during the y e a r
t o £10,000
first
that
Subhead A S .
£800,000 i s
Scientific
still
o f Uganda h a v e
reasonable,
the Exchequer
We a r e a w a r e
of
agree
t h a t ^ p r o v i d e d t h e amount o f
solution
the C o l o n i a l
Tanganyika.
its
and
the Exchequer
should be o b s e r v e d t h a t
be p a y a b l e
liability
which i s
to
prepared t o
t o make m o d e r a t e
i n q u e s t i o n cansiot
annual i n s t a l m e n t
proposal
is
I6an.
annual i n s t a l m e n t
We a r e d i s p o s e d
this
raises
bo r e p a i d
We u n d e r s t a n d
the
of
liability
Protectorate
shall
State
commence f o r t h w i t h
on a c c o u n t
own a c c o u n t
of
£2,000,
and t h a t ,
the C o l o n i a l
reduction.
having
Office
We a g r e e
regard
are
that
can
this
reduced p r o v i s i o n
Telegrams,-
is
reasonable *
Subhead G.
A new c o d e and c y p h e r h a s r e c e n t l y
it
is
that
anticipated w i l l
the
suggested
provision
The r e d u c t i o n s
of
t h i s Vote
are
result
as
in
of
been I n t r o d u c e d
some e c o n o m y .
£20,000 might
w h i c h we recommend on t h e
which
We t h i n k
be r e d u c e d b y £ 1 , 0 0 0 .
sketch
estimate
follows:£
Uganda A . 4 .
200,000
Tanganyika A , 5 .
Scientific
Telegrams
50,000
R e s e a r c h B5.
8,000
G,
1,000
TOTAL:
being a reduction
£259,000
but
I n the
of
of
the
sketch estimate
an i n c r e a s e
event
incorporation
of
of
of
the
£&68,278
Rhodesia
Grant
I n October
in Aid
of
in
of
for
1922/25.
favour
this vote
s u b h e a d E7 and p r o b a b l y
£150,000 under
(Signed)"
1922.
estimate
South A f r i c a ,
(Signed)
pad O c t o b e r ,
as s u b m i t t e d
oh t h e
deciding
i n the Union of
r e d u c e d by £ 0 3 0 , 0 0 0 u n d e r
proportion
259,000.
by a
could
substantial
subhead A . 8 .
CRAWORD AND BALCARRES.
JOHN B A I R D . ­
be
Home O f f i c e
-
Police
(England,
W a l e s and
Scotland)
HOME OFFICE.
CLASS I I
1913/14 A u d i t e d
; Anthrax D i s i n f e c t i n g
of
368,956
Station.
i n the S k e t o h E s t i m a t e
the e x p e n d i t u r e
this
358,990
Estimates
The p r o v i s i o n
etc.,
471,446
(net)
Estimates
1923/24 S k e t c h
1923-4, f o r
£
255,009
Expenditure
1921/22 E s t i m a t e s
1922/23
VOfByS.
station
is
t o be i n c u r r e d
for
on the
e x a c t l y b a l a n c e d b y the
j r e c e i p t s from f e e s u n d e r the Anthrax D i s i n f e c t i o n
estimated
Act.
the q u e s t i o n
fee r e v e n u e
and d e p r e c i a t i o n
cost
so as to cover i n t e r e s t
of
the b u i l d i n g , and p l a n t .
Home O f f i c e
a r e prepared to r a i s e
disinfected
as soon as
the s t a t e
recommendation on t h i s matter.,,
reduction
I for t h i s
i n t h e net t o t a l
Department.
the f e e
of
and I
trade
year
maintenance
have d i s c u s s e d w i t h t h e Home O f f i c e
j capital
t!
the
I
of r a i s i n g
on t h e
I understand
per l b .
of
permits.,
that
the
wool
I make no
am u n a b l e t o s u g g e s t
o f the Sketch Estimate f o r
the
any
1923-4
POLICE, ^ENGLAND AM) WALES)
Class
III
Vote
7.
Payments
f r o m Consolldated
Fund.
Voted
Money.
(
f
.
i
i,
i ii
i-1 - '
i i ii
,
i \
J
1
ited E x p e n d i t u r e
limated n e t
1"
"
ten E s t i m a t e s
*nx.
o r . . , ....
-
1915/14
1923-24
1
* -
£
'
*'
£
109,241
2,863,000
2,972,000
6,741,474
2,917,000
9,658,000
6,292,025
2,917,000
9,209,000
6,190,388
2,917,000
1922-23
i - ... i. -
£
1
expenditure
1921-22
"
Total
Exchequer
Contribution.
9,107,000
,.
....
i,;
,
U
1
POLICE (SCOTLAND) .
Class
III
- Vote
14.
j
Money.
!
1
Total
Exchequer
Contribution.
Payments
f r o m Consolidated
Fund.
Voted
i:
ted E x p e n d i t u r e
mated n e t
1913-14
expenditure
1921-22
"
"
"
.ch e s t i m a t e s
1922-23
1923-24
I
j
£
I
nil
220,000
1,075,200
S
756,700
220,000
976,700
I
756,700
-220,000
976,700
,
. v:f t l ^ n - '
Estimate
E n g l a n d and W a l e s , , shows a d e c r e a s e
the y e a r 1922/23.
t o the
alteration
220,000
855,200
t o d e a l w i t h these
The P r o v i s i o n a l
220,000
I
w * -
propose
£
£
I understand
two V o t e s
together.
for
the year
1923/24 f o r
of
£101,637
on t h e
however t h a t
I n t h e method o f payment- o f
this
the
estimate
decrease
police
Police,
is
gr^ant,
for
due
the
actual
year
expenditure
1923/24 i s
which I t
therefore
is
the
estimated
will
same as i n
the
be
Incurred
current
in
the
financial
year.
The S c o t t i s h
reduction
of
the. c u r r e n t
of
Forces
1..
the
are
of
ensuing
estimates
2.
I
Carrying
their
financial
that
regard
year u n t i l
it
is
that
but i t
elate
that
Scottish
All
the
is
total
with
compared
any
on t h e
precise
maintenance
reasons:­
their
estimates
and t h e Home
ask f o r
Office
detailed
h a s b e e n made
i n the
to
with
economy made by
the p r e s e n t
economies
reductions
too e a r l y
the
Home
dsvoted
recommended b y
current
aimed
at
the
the
financial
year.
i n 1922-23
s a y what f u r t h e r
will
economies
1923-4*
no s p e c i a l
a detailed
the
of
Office
Police
is
steps
as
been taken
on
the
strength
by the
with
National
should be c a r r i e d
of
out.
the
I
Home O f f i c e
and
follows:have
Authorities
the
of
contemplated
Authorities
percentage,
have
the Committee
examination
procedure
When P o l i c e
the r e q u i s i t e
Authorities
to
as t o
s t r e n g t h b y 5% ( 4 $ I n S c o t l a n d )
suspended.
as
I understand that
Expenditure
the
at
consider
h a v e up t o
C o u n t y and B o r o u g h F o r c e s
understand
by the
that
any
t
Office
the recommendation
Expenditure
various
in
to forecast
the f o l l o w i n g
October
useless
Expenditure
In p a r t i c u l a r
to
do n o t
recommendations
on N a t i o n a l
can be e x p e c t e d
3.
arriving
have e n q u i r e d what p r o g r e s s
on N a t i o n a l
be r e a c h e d ,
in
t o be i n c u r r e d
Authorities
the present
thought
1923/24
1923/24 f o r
attention to realising
is
their
year
end t h e S c o t t i s h
Committee
It
difficulty
i n the
out v a r i o u s
Committee
i n the y e a r
expenditure
opini.cn
at
have, not b e e n a b l e
year.
great
The P o l i c e
the
Office
find
as t o t h e
Police
for
expenditure
financial
I
figures
the
Office
been i n s t r u c t e d t o
reduce
and r e c r u i t i n g
been
have r e d u c e d
situation w i l l
? / i l l be a s k e d w h e t h e r
t h e y cannot
has
their
forces
be r e v i e w e d
effect
some
by
and t h e
further
reduction.
It
t h e burden
is
thua^lrrt.ertde d "to "put-"upon - t ^ e " " T ^ l l o ^ ^ u t l i o y l A J t o ^ ^
,
of proving that
and i n t h i s way d e t a i l e d
various
forces
will
is
t h i s method has t h e
arises
on a r e d u c e d s t r e n g t h .
carried
proposed procedure but
Committee
resulted
than i n
police
on N a t i o n a l
the y e a r
am u n a b l e
5.
who w i l l
Constable.
6.
As
i n the
maintained subject
of
year
this
1923/24.
as immediate e f f e c t
could
the
have
i n the year
1923/24 ­
however i n f o r m me
can be a n t i c i p a t e d
by annual
It
in
this
Increments
Police
forces.
of
This
State
the anomalies
instanced
Police
I n the
-
Forces,
functionary
to
is
an admin-
attaches
of
the
a county which
each w i t h i t s
rules
proceed
consider­
existing
contains
own C h i e f
n i n e men.
I had hoped t h a t
it
for
reduction in Police
an e f f e c t i v e
and p u b l i c
to the
etc.
Minor
i s not p o s s i b l e
w o u l d be
l a i d down i n the D e a b o r o u g h R e p o r t ,
l i v i n g was h i g h
experience
actual
t h e s e economies would
into law,
In Brechin t h i s
of
estimating
Amalgamation C l a u s e s
may be
t o make recommendations
strength
the
the
that
the d i f f i c u l t y
be o f f s e t
an example of
Pay.
claimed
for
assumption.
small
separate
question
on
r e f o r m t o which t h e S e c r e t a r y
Police
The s c a l e
will
this
of
of
In expenditure
savings
have p a s s e d
than s i x
is
the
I make n o comment
The Home O f f i c e
the P o l i c e
situation Porfarshire
of
light
be r e q u i r e d
Expenditure,
to c r i t i c i s e
importance.
It
of
t h e economies recommended b y
additional
Until
Istratlve
cost
of
1922/23.
the amalgamation
no l e s s
increases
such s a v i n g s
Economies B i l l
able
out i n the
In greater reductions
way and t h a t
with
it
to certain
that v e r y small
I
and when t h e
I s h o u l d have e x p e c t e d t h a t
not be g i v e n
strength
advantage t h a t examination of
of
4*
the
i n each f o r c e .
will
t h e number of
of
out as
each f o r c e
working
n e c e s s a r y t o resume . r e c r u i t m e n t , "h
examinations
be c a r r i e d
resuming recruitment
be
it
at
possible
a time when the
apprehension g r e a t ,
small reductions
pay.,,.,
imposed l a s t
has
been
April.
The p r e s e n t
of
wages are v e r y h i g h
comparable
where
police
wages
are
exists
classes
are
among r a t i n g
artisan
are
fully
the
central
that
which the
local
is
approval
for
a reduction
I
for
two
the
of
the
the
of
living
datum l i n e
by that
is
of
Report
scales
in
I
am o f
if
have
subject
from
to
case
by the
to
views
of
the
differential
of
existing
Police
service.
It
statement.
opinion that
some f i g u r e
as s o o n as
the
substantially
revision
as
below
contemplated
I m m e d i a t e l y b e made..
the
present
next
position
summer,
as t o wages I s
the r e v i s i o n
down i n the D e s b o r o u g h R e p o r t
should
of
then be
3ub­
the
taken
hand.
For
the reasons
what r e d u c t i o n s
stated
c a n be e f f e c t e d ,
as c o m p a r e d w i t h t h e c u r r e n t
be spared
Police
the
taking
overwhelming.
on t h e
the Desborough R e p o r t ,
unchanged e a r l y
laid
at
of
The a r g u m e n t a t i v e
any e a r l y r e d u c t i o n
stabilised
should
Moreover
stantially
less
from
choice
Influenced
a
themselves
should be d e v i s e d
t o me t o b e
so g r a v e
police
among
the S c o t t i s h O f f i c e
scales
disastrously
Ignore
None t h e
the
opposed i n p r i n c i p l e
that
would r e a c t
to
engendered
authorities
authority,
deeply
the
The a t t i t u d e
s h o u l d make i t s
i n pay a p p e a r s
He I s
local
model
central
am, h o w e v e r ,
impossible
is
places
veasorl t h a t
or t h r e e
and c o n s i d e r s
emoluments
price
this
districts,
Dissatisfaction
ill-will
certain
precludes
earnings
as much as i n L o n d o n ,
the d i s p r o p o r t i o n .
authority
Home S e c r e t a r y .
is
of
authority
suggested
scales
and i n
to the
and i n r u r a l
excessive.
authorities,
conscious
th
c-ormnntiity,
wholly
classes,
action.
the
paid p r a c t i c a l l y
considered
the
of
in relation
to effect
Service,
Estimates
every
and I
are
above. 1 am u n a b l e
on t h i s
financial, year..
possible
trust
Vote
that
it
r e c e i v e d from the
to
i n the
report
year
No e f f o r t
administrative
1923/4,
should
economy i n
may b e f o u n d p o s s i b l e ,
various
Police
the
when
authorities
t o make a p p r e c i a b l e
financial
effected
year.
The l i n e s
are d e a l t
on N a t i o n a l
reductions
with in
Expenditure,
in the
Estimate
on w h i c h t h e
detail
but
I
in
for
the
economies
the Report
wish t o r e f e r
can be
of
to
current
the
the
Committee
following
points.
(1)
whether
Metropolitan
the
Department
fees
Police.
can be
Increased
should
any d e f i n i t e
recommendation
a l s o be
The s u b s t i t u t i o n
buildings,
the
Police
(5)
I
annum,
on t h i s
of
t o make t h a t
Department
the S p e c i a l
Constabu- ,
I
t o make
but
am u n a b l e
Police
by c i v i l i a n s
s h o u l d be
this
produces
pensioners
change w i t h
an i m m e d i a t e
a s a v i n g which however
pursued.
marked
saving
does not
subject
and A r s e n a l s
strength
of
and War O f f i c e
of
accrue
general
of
the
In the
Police
use M e t r o p o l i t a n
Provincos.
Force
is
to
police.
By c o m p a r i s o n G r e e n o c k B u r g h h a s 1 3 9 ,
Ayr 201 p o l i c e .
The a t t e n t i o n
should be u r g e n t l y
number o f
Police
also
the
the redundant
accrue
to
directed
employed
Central
For
comment I n E a s t e r n S c o t l a n d .
and s e l f - o o n b a i n e d ,
to
Force
constables
Admiralty
of
to the
the
Is
forthwith,
and War O f f i c e
This
be
small
the County
desirability
I n London w i l l
instance
p a t r o l l e d by about
si/ar O f f i c e
t h e minimum.
Police
s o l a r g e ' as t o
enclosed
will
or
actively
district,
all
Licensing
point.
am e f f e c t i n g
The A d m i r a l t y
at R o s y t h the
that
considered
Votes.
to p a t r o l Dockyards
the
examined,
Each s u b s t i t u t i o n
some £ 2 5 0 p e r
Carriage
sufficiently
museums, e t c .
I n my own D e p a r t m e n t
economy *
a g a i n be
The p r o v i s i o n made f o r
lary Reserve
in public
should
c h a r g e d by the P u b l i c
self-supporting.
(2)
It
It
and
n o t be a b l e
and t h a t
Votes,
of
Admiralty
of r e d u c i n g
must be
these
160
the
remembered
to
absorb
savings
PRISONS
(ENGLAND AND WALES).
Class
III
Vote
8,
£
Audited
Expenditure
1913/14.
767,903.
Net E s t i m a t e .
1921/22.
1,577,254.
Net E s t i m a t e .
1922/23.
1,166,804.
Sketch Estimates.
1923/24.
The n e t t o t a l
the
£ 1 , 2 1 4 , 2 5 4 or: a n e t
1923-24 i s
net t o t a l
of
of
the Estimate
for
The -gross, i n c r e a s e
but t h i s
figure
and b y s a v i n g s
This
is offset
due t o
Sketch Estimate
15,300 while
for
the
Estimate
a l s o made f o r
increase
year
of
for
the
£47,450 on
the
is
however
£122^499
by increased appropriations
In the
partly
Prison
cost
the
of
caused b y
b a s e d bn a
for
year,
1922-3.
on t h e V o t e
1923-4 i s
b a s e d On an e s t i m a t e d
is
is
1,214,254.
Sketch Estimate
the
the f a l l
increase
.
Population of
an i n c r e a s e d e x p e n d i t u r e
the f a c t
that
the
Population
financial
Provision
£42^e&0-on
Buildings.
;
;
gramme o f
Ihe
P r i s o n Commissioners have
reform.
The t o t a l
y e t been e s t i m a t e d ,
For t h e year
it
of
reforms
service.
are
i n mind a l a r g e
this
would be V e r y
1923-4 o n l y a v a r i e t y
administrative
educational
but
cost
of
proposed,
Some o f
these
programme h a s
comparatively
proposals
which s h o u l d be
discussed Departmentally
Treasury,
and a s
I make n o
which
I understand
that
not
minor
Improved
involve
questions
to
pro­
considerable.
i n c l u d i n g an
with
the
p r o p o s a l s h a v e b e e n made f o r
the
appointment
of a Royal
Commission t o
question of
the A d m i n i s t r a t i o n
of
recommendation.
consider
Prisons
and
the
of
year iis
15^500.
of
aid
housing.
Prison
current
in
whole
Borstal
Institutions.
from
the
to
financial
these
circumstances
situation,
the
suggested the
discussion
following
(l)
w i t h me t h e
reductions
in
in the
is
Prison
Home O f f i c e
the
in­
Service.
have
Sketch. E s t i m a t e .
E l i m i n a t i o n of proposed
provision for quarters for
Staff
(2)
t h i n k t h a t --apart
p r e s e n t moment
opportune, f o r , making any i n n o v a t i o n s
After
I
a t Manchester
Reduction i n the Estimated
p r i s o n popo.Iat.ion f r o m ­
15,300 to 14 300
;
-
£16,000
-
. £20,000
£35,000
I recommend t h e r e d u c t i o n
this
amount,
smaller
Items
subject
on t h e
to
of
departmental
Vote.-.
the
Sketch Estimate
discussion
of
the
by
. PRISONS
Class
Audited
(SCCTIANP)..
III
Vote
Expenditure
15.
£
1913/14
123,437
Net Estimate
1921/22 *
Net
1922/23.
Estimate
Sketch
In
Estimates.
238,957.
196,100.
1923/24.
the Sketch Estimate
for
190,200.
1923-4,
reductions
amounting t o £ 5 , 9 0 0 a r e a n t i c i p a t e d on t h e n e t t o t a l
the Estimate
for
Since
small
1922-3.
the Sketch Estimate
economies a r e a n t i c i p a t e d
and a s a r e s u l t
Prison to
closing
the
of Ayr
found p o s s i b l e
the
the year
Local
result
of
Local
the y e a r
It
savings
anticipated
in
of
These
not
of
and o f
it
therefor
total
be
Prisons
of
the
£188,600.
to
should
than £1,600
£ 7 , 5 0 0 on t h e n e t E s t i m a t e
partial
may b e
and L e r w i c k
economies
Victualling
Stornoway
the
the Sketch Estimates
The r e v i s e d n e t
1923-4 w i l l
less
further
subhead f o r
i s a l s o hoped t h a t
t o hand o v e r K i r k w a l l
reduction of
of £196,100,
on the
authorities
Police Authorities.
the s a v i n g s
was s u b m i t t e d
probable handing over
Police
Prison.
in further
a total
the
for
which
-will
for
Estimate
with
effect
1922-3
for
REFORMATORY AND INDUSTRIAL SCHOOLS,
CLASS I I I ,
i t eel E x p e n d i t u r e
Estimatesi
ch E s t i m a t e s
VOTES 9 and 1 6 .
England
&
Wale's.
Scotland.
£
£
-
1913-14
1921-22
597,586
140,915
1922-23
455,000
105,221
1923-24
439,325
97,750
Sketch Estimate
f o r 1923-4
£*
Estimate f o r
1922-3 ,
dand a n d
It]
455,000
Wales
439,325
105,221
s ^ x d ^ ^
reduction
£15,375'.
8
of
9.7'^750 L e , a r e d u c t i o n
of £ 7 , 4 7 1 .
[gland a n d T f e l e s .
Since
the--...Fr^-vl-el-crna-l. E s t l m & t e - w a s
ve i n f o r m e d me t h a t
tal r e d u c t i o n of
Irrent f i n a n c i a l
it
is
£30,000
closed;
ea
Schools.,
one
in
the
'e u n d e r
I
am o f
may h e
Home
possible
1923-4^ as
t o me a s t o
opinion
that
i n the South Western A r e a ,
i n f o r m me t h a t
the
year
submitted
( i n a d d i t i o n t o Durham S c h o o l
June O f f i c e
It
the
to
Office
effect
compared w i t h
a
the
year.
Erom t h e f i g u r e s
I Industrial
hoped t h a t
framed,
Control
lwith
caution,
irther
s c h o o l s as
of
the
Boards
of
and one
of
to be
i n the North
closed
closing
offers
the
will
vacancies
Schools
these
possibility
be b o r n e
could
Eastern
shortly).
schools,
V o l u n t a r y Managers, has
b u t t h e y a s s u r e me t h a t
opportunity
two f u r t h e r
which i s
question
t h e number- o f
to be
of
in mind.
The
which
approach­
closing
two
I
Vote
Recommend t h a t
should be r e d u c e d
to
the net t o t a l
of
the
Estimate
for
this
£425,000.
Scotland.
!'he a v e r a g e
is
estimated
figure
parental
at £1.2s.lOd.
i n England and Wales
contribution
for
the
is
year
p e r h e a d p e r annum
1923-4.
s h o u l d b e made b y t h e S c o t t i s h
to
level
the
a p p r o x i m a t i n g more
of
contributions
closely
t o the
English
closing further
I s now u n d e r
consideration,
but
t o recommend a r e d u c t i o n
in
is
not
A
Department
figure
schools
possible
In
at
the S k e t c h E s t i m a t e
Scotland
the
for
CRAWFORD AND BALCARRES.
2nd O c t o b e r ,
1922.
deter­
figure.
possibility, of
it
Education
i n Scotland to a
The
time
corresponding
approximately £3.6s.0d.
mined e f f o r t
raise
The
present
1923-4.
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I S DOCUMENT I S THE PROPERTY OP H I S BRITANNIC MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT)
E C R E T.
(CS)
C A B I
5.
N E T.
COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL EXPENDITURE.
EDUCATIONAL ESTIMATES.
N I L
.1
I
' -FR I m
- -
MWWW
- - M " -1
REPORT OF Mr..'HILTON ,YOUNG'S
1.
On t h e
forecast
of
16th June,
estimates
for
the
m
N -
1
-
-'
SUB-COMMITTEE.
Board
1923-24.
of
Education
This
showed
submitted
a total
a
of
£44,621,000.
In
this
total
comparison w i t h
of
£44,621,000
The r e d u c t i o n
chiefly
J services
of
original
Estimate
showed a r e d u c t i o n
was, however,
apparent
rather
an a u t o m a t i c
decrease
of
due t o
the post-war
the
scheme
of
educational
£279*000.
£674,000 in
Increase
was b a s e d Upon
1922/23,
than r e a l .
training.
the B o a r d showed a n e t
The f o r e c a s t
of
for
The
of
It
respect
of
ordinary
£395,000.
an assumed t o t a l
I
I
was
of
expendi-
'
J ture
by l o c a l
J£75,450,000
I education
Education A u t h o r i t i e s
(for
elementary
education
available
with
the
as a r e s u l t
advancing
with your Sub-Committee,
a reduction
of
total
£ 6 1 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 , and f o r
This r e d u c t i o n
Exchequer.
a further
Authorities,
for
same
reduction
and o f
to
time,
of
assumed f a l l
grant
the
fuller
of
higher
of
Local
of
in
grants
of
reduction
war
to
estimate
elementary
-
£12,500,00*0).
£1,074,000
t h e B o a r d saw i t s
to
Education
(for
education
a saving
of
consultations
E d u c a t i o n was a b l e
higher
rate
Information
preliminary
£73,500,000
£150,000
A further
in
the
and o f
£15,700 I n r e s p e c t
administration.
from t h e
grant
would, r e p r e s e n t
At the
of
expenditure
education
of
for
- £ 6 2 , 6 5 0 , 0 0 0 and f o r
Board o f
to
-
rank
the
the
year
Authorities
for
rank
£12,800,000),
Subsequently,
for
to
to
wny t o
the
estimate
non-Local
Education
museums and g e n e r a l
of
£45,900 w i l l
bonus.
cost
result
The
to
Estimate
£43,335,000,
for
1 9 2 3 - 2 4 was t h u s
Your Shb-Committee has a c c e p t e d
as a b a s i s
for
whether
can be red\iced by a d d i t i o n a l
it
2.
forecast
at
estimate
enquiry
of
table
period
are not yet
be r e g a r d e d
as
of
and h a s p r o c e e d e d
shows t h e
£43,335,000
with the Estimate
an e a r l y
year
further
The f o l l o w i n g
the t o t a l
reduced by
the
available
for
this
to
figure
investigate
economies.
prih c i p a l
items
on w h i c h
composed and compares
1922-3,
year,
for
is
£1,286,000
Having been
when t h e
results
information,
of
these
that
rendered
the
current
figures
must
tentative.
TABLE
ain H e a d s .
I,
Board's Estimates
1922-23,
Board's revised forecast
of Estimates 1923-24.
STS TO L . E , A . ' S
lementary
34,983,693
igher
34,160,000
5.693.000
5 , 4 4 3 000
40,676,693
foTS TO N 0 N - L . E , A ' S
"
lementary
39,603,000
'
84,650
Higher
84,650
2,511.847
2,256.260
2,596,497
2,340,910
BCELLANEOUS
Administration &
Inspection
843,102
787,102
luseums
195,000
189,300
Teachers P e n s i o n s
1,860,000
2,360,000
Ex-Servlcc
1,036,808
.
3,936,910
etc.
Students
OSS TOTAL -
1
365,000
3,701,402
47,210,100'
45,646,312
2, 310,100
2,310,100
8S
r
Appropriations
I TOTAL
i n Aid
m
44,900,000
"
43,335,212
It
whole
Is
bo o b s e r v e d t h a t
gross estimated
required
ities
will
for
exren^iture
grants
b a s e d upon t h e i r
estimated
total
Authorities
for
£73,500,000.
distribution
to
expenditure
that
with the
actual
probable
expenditure
Board
Author­
expenditure.
of
Local
table
expenditure,
expenditure
for
the
the
The
Education
as a l r e a d y m e n t i o n e d ,
The f o l l o w i n g
of
of
Local Education
total
1923-24,
87? 6 f
of
sets
in
out
the
comparison
1 9 2 1 - 2 2 nnd t h e
1922-23.
is
TABLE
II.
Sketch, o f t h e d i s t r i b u t i o n o f an e x p e n d i t u r e b y L . E . A a i n
1523-24 o f "£7.3. 6 0 0 . 0 0 0 on E d u c e t I o n . E l e m e n t a r y end H i g h e r .
1
GEMENTARY EDUCATI.ON.
mm
"
mmmMi
1
Actuals
1921-22
2 '
1
£
Possible
Expre.
1922-23.
3
£
alaries of Teachers
oan C h a r g e s
dmini s t r a t i on
ither E x p e n d i t u r e st
ipecial S e r v i c e s
x
41,649i320
3,066*040
2,832,607
9,2S2j23S
3,874*828
43,120,777
3,107,830
2,756,273
8,980,616
3,184,681
OTAL NET EXPENDITURE
60,735,030
161,150,177
447,580
5,359,705
Difference
between
C o l s . 4 Sc 3 .
5
Sketch f o r
1923-24.
4
£
'
£
4 3 , 4 0 0 , 0 0 0 4, 2 7 9 , 2 2 3
3,150,000 *
42,170
2,500,000 - 256,273
8,550,000 - 430,615
3,400,0CO *V 2 1 6 , 3 1 9
61,000,000
-
150,177
441,162
5,376,599
430,000 5,350,000 -
11,162
26,599
3,584,583
3,629,878
3,270,000
-
S59,878
664,462
650,232
1,422,376
306,556
671,113
738,886
1,651,482
413,796
650,000
800,000
1,600,000
400,000
*
-
21,113
61,114
51,482
18,796
12,535,494
12,927,916
12,50O,O0C -
427,916
73,270,524
74,078,093
73,500,000 -
578,093
ER EDUCATION.
1
!olleges,etc .for
raining of Teachers,
iecondary S c h o o l s .
Ither Forms o f F u r t h e r
iducation.
idmini s t r a t i on and
napectlon.
/Oan C h a r g e s
lid t o S t u d e n t s
Ither E x p e n d i t u r e *X*
IOTAL
NET EXPENDITURE
i
i
IOTAL ­
iLEMENTARY & HIGHER
Other e x p e n d i t u r e " ( E l y ) I n c l u d e s R e n t , R a t e s , T a x e s , I n s u r a n c e , F u e l ,
I g h t , C l e a n i n g , C a r e t a k e r s ' Wages, S t a t i o n e r y , R e p a i r s t o B u i l d i n g s
ind F u r n i t u r e , C a p i t a l o u t l a y when c h a r g e d t o R e v e n u e and o t h e r
Hscellaneous charges.
S p e c i a l S e r v i c e s " ( E l y ) i n c l u d e s S c h o o l ivJedioal S e r v i c e , P r o v i s i o n
teals, S p e c i a l S c h o o l s f o r D e f e o t i v e C h i l d r e n , O r g a n i s a t i o n o f
Physical T r a i n i n g , E v e n i n g P l a y C e n t r e s and N u r s e r y S c h o o l s .
Other e x p e n d i t u r e " ( h i g h e r ) i n c l u d e s S u p p l e m e n t a r y , S o c i a l and
physical T r a i n i n g ( S e c t i o n 17 o f t h e E d u c a t i o n A c t " o f 1 9 1 8 ) , M e d i c a l
I n s p e c t i o n and T r e a t m e n t , Payments t o o t h e r A u t h o r i t i e s and o t h e r
' i s e e l 1 aneous Charge s .
of
It
will
be apparent
economies
a r e t o be e f f e c t e d
Is
r e g i o n of
in
the
which account
for
grants
87;' o f
2 above w i l l ,
order
to point
your Sub-Committee,
any s u b s t a n t i a l
the
Local Education
total
gross
further
reductions
that
headings
now be b r i e f l y
directions
i n which,
set
those
out
examined
in
can r e a s o n a b l y
it
Authorities,
Estimate,
The r e l e v a n t
therefore,
out t h e
if
in the Education Estimates,
to
E c o n o m i e s must be s o u g h t .
Table
that
the
be
in
in
opinion
of
effected
therein.
SALARIES OF TEACHER"..
3.
This
accounting
i s by f * r
for
on e l e m e n t a r y
over
the
71? o f
the
education.
Is
1st A p r i l
which t h e
come up f o r
not
revision,
year,
It
for
year
the
at
is,
expenditure,
expenditure
of
principle
before
Burnham s c a l e s
will
therefore,
assumed t h a t
the
the
l.e.a's
that
the
the
date,
automatically
was adopter- b y t h e C a b i n e t
earlier
scales
must
in
the
stand
1923-24.
certain
economies
without
interfering
with
t h e Burnham s c a l e s .
It
salaries
lower
paid
t o new e n t r a n t s .
o n l y who w e r e
however,
the
already
of
in rates
opinion
of
is
suggested
of
the
by the
because,
according
Burnham s c a l e s
or
altering
Board o f
Burnham s c a l e s
T h i s would i n v o l v e
are
that
remuneration
t h e Burnham S e t t l e m e n t
than t h o s e
Burnham S e t t l e m e n t
Settlement,
is,
can be e f f e c t e d ,
that
that
total
of
t o be d i s t u r b e d
Your Sub-Committee
the
itew
The g e n e r a l
Burnham S e t t l e m e n t
1925,
largest
Education
might
no d i s t u r b a n c e
to the
to
employed as t e a c h e r s
terms
applv t o
at
the
be
of
of
those
time
of
the
Settlement.
Your Sub-Committee
is
strongly
of
opinion
that
suggestion
s h o u l d b e a d o p t e d and a c t e d u p o n f o r t h w i t h .
of
that
opinion
salaries
of
It
would be n o t u n r e a s o n a b l e
certificated
if
this
It
initial
men w e r e l o w e r e d b y £25 p e r
annum
is
( 2 annual
increments)
and t h o s e o f
annum ( 3 a n n u a l i n c r e m e n t s ) .
on t h e
the
Estimate
following
4.
of
1923/24
the
If
effected
sought
any f u r t h e r
matter
a reduction
(A)
t h e number o f
(B)
the
A.
determined
(i)
class
of
are
by
the
As t o
of
subject
£250,000
for
in
to
country,
revision
the
scales
on 1 s t
then reduce
April
the
economies
salariesj
are
to
be
t h e y must
be
­
teachers,
teacher
and
in
employed,
tefichers
children
proportion
(i)
of
employed i s
chiefly
teochers
Education
Bill
Bill
to
and
children.
optional
may r e s x i l t
number o f
children
in attendance
t h e Board e s t i m a t e s
that
on t h e 1 s t
July,
1922,
100,000.
The consequent
the
becomes
net
law i n
attendance
of
raising
of
the
average
the
of
of
160,000.
the
nucumn,
average
On the
school
reduction
that
may b e
the
children
the
average
Economy
other
age t o
in
is
hand,
14
attendance
by
children
of
in
opinion
by no means an o v e r - e s t i m a t e
at endance
;
If
the
Your Sub-Committee
probably
In average
that,
in a reduction
may i n c r e a s e
attendance would be 6 0 , 0 0 0 .
is
estimates
w h i c h makes t h e
under s i x
figure
t o be t a u g h t ,
-
clause
net reduction
the
proportionately.
teachers'
Provisions)
this
of
substantial
(Miscellaneous
that
saving
­
The B o a r d o f
in that
rest
benefit
The number o f
t h e number o f
(ii)
in a
and o f
London E d u c a t i o n A u t h o r i t y
in the
in
would r e s u l t
£100,000,
the
the Exchequer w i l l
5.
of
unlike
London t e a c h e r s
1923 and i f
This
per
year,
Moreover,
pay o f
scales
for
women b y £ 3 7 * 1 0 s .
expected
of
the
As t o
(11)
-
Your Sub-Committee
Education that
economy i n
but i t
It
is
is.recognised
still
of
that
The Code o f
Issued by the
reducing
staff
smaller
of
by a l l
foreshadows
does not
in the
schools
immediate
further
In themselves
teachers
the
of
the
year
to
Local
children,
Education
Schools
measures
for
gradually
A (l)
Board has a l l o w e d
the
in
above.
.
Your
. It
of
might
standards
is
of
1923/24, w i t h o u t
loss
In
which
Sub--Committee
b y t h e prompt
of
1,129
in
average
reduction
t h e maximum t h a t
adequate.
of
reduction
decline
future
in
teach.
s u b s t a n t i a l , economy c a n bo. e f f e c t e d
course
of
a reduction
and a b o v e
Local Education A u t h o r i t i e s
are
to
above-mentioned
represent
policy
and. r e q u i r i n g Head T e a c h e r s
expected
t o under
of
Elementary
measures the
over
Board,
proportion.
for
1923/24 f o r
by the
referred
be e f f e c t e d
the
for
opinion that the
teachers
that
these
teachers,
justified
attendance
is
of
Sketch Estimate
w o u l d be
Board
of
the
areas,
too high a
and mi d i e - s i z e d
t h e number o f
certain
such a r e a s ,
In view
its
proportion
in
by the
pursuing
regulations
recently
tho
the
maintain
in
informed
consistently
the m a t t e r
Authorities
is
1,129
reasonably
acceptance
of
staffing
opinion
that
In this matter
of
in
educational
efficiency.
B.
In
tho r e c e n t l y
Board p r o v i d e s
teachers
qualified
(i.e,
in
for
some
areas,
teachers
infants'
larger
code
employment
rmd f o r
i n the
classes).
issued
the
referred
of
less
of
the
above,
highly
employment
instruction
to
of
qualified
less
youngest
the
highly
children
It
is
not
clear
t o . y o u r Sub.-Committee" t h a t
maximum economy t h a t , can b e a t t a i n e d b y
enforcement
Board s
of
t h e s e measures has been a l l o w e d
forecast
f
6,
of E s t i m a t e
for
Your Sub-Committee
here
to
briefly
to
exerciasS. b y t h e
educational
directly
of
can be e f f e c t e d
refer
control
over
economies
which have been r e f e r r e d
paragraphs
ore
Authorities
in the
chief.Influence
of
the
manner.
that
the
indirect
the
of
maximum t o t a l s
the
Education A u t h o r i t i e s
and t o a d h e r e
staffing
amount
it
appears
are
in t h e
control
by
excluding
it
is
reductions
a position
to your
to
efficient
Sub-Committee
suited
by t h e
The
direction
a prompt and
specially
is
them.
any n e c e s s a r y
in
part
for
the
fixation
of
expenditure.
To e r . a b l e
of
pressure
itself
That
ground t h a t
that
Education,
Education
indirectly
on t h e
the
greater
must e f f e c t
B o a r d must b e p u t i n
t h e . method o f
of
is
of
there/tore,
the Local
is
therefore
Board's Estimates
application
general,,
grant
reason,
necessary
If,
B o a r d can e x e r t
financial
For: t h i s
the
of
is
cn e d u c a t i o n .
that
expenditure
In,order
may be e f f e c t e d ,
exercise
of
calculation
extravagant,^,
place
that.the
reduction
from, t h e
first
it
the
foregoing
Board of
of by f a r
spent
t o be e f f e c t e d ,
the
teachers's
characteristic
done b y t h e L o c a l E d u c a t i o n A u t h o r i t i e s ,
economies
in
The B o a r d d o e s n o t
the expenditure
t h e , p u b l i c mcney that- I s
rigid
deal with
It
u
through the
expenditure.
control
to
to in the
special
State,
for
as r e g a r d s
in practice
the
and
1923/24*
now p r o c e e d s
manner i n w h i c h t h e p o s s i b l e
salaries
a prompt
the
Board e f f e c t i v e l y
to
avoid
to
in p a r t i c u l a r ,
extravagance
economical
it
to require
is
and w a s t e
standards
eminently
desirable
not be r e c o g n i s e d
in
in the
should be f i x e d , beyond which t h e e x p e n d i t u r e
Education A u t h o r i t i e s , w i l l
Local
for
matter
that
of
grout.
an
Local
This
principle
has a l r e a d y
Chamberlain
in effect
Committee
Education Estimates
been a c c e p t e d by
and a d o p t e d by t h e
of
the current
Parliament
effective
and,
essential
for
will
i n the
that
case,
the
opinion of
provisions)
B o a r d t o make
the
Bill
the
now
maxima
your Sub-Committee,
the method o f
control
your Sub-Committee
r e d u c t i o n s h o u l d be made
iii the
reoofenised
f o r grant,
ih
respect
the matter
of
1
teachers
paragraphs.
for
is
purpose.
Applying
the present
enable
Cabinet
year.
The Economy ( M i s c e l l a n e o u s
before
the
total
of
Salaries
The amount o f
the
is
b y maximum t o t a l s
of
1
opinion
a
that
sum o f £ 7 3 , 5 0 0 , 0 0 0
tho
further
as s p e c i f i e d
reduction is
to
economies
i n the
dealt
in
be
in
foregoing
with
hero­
after.
EXPENDITURE OE LOCAL AUTHORITIES 03 AXMIHL5TRATION*
7.
Expenditure
Authorities
watched
is
in the
over elaborate,
The t a s k
of
difficult
theless,
no s t a g e
other,
of methods
economy i n t h i s
with
ore
their
the B o a r d o f E d u c a t i o n
staff
Authorities
to a d v i e o
in the
and o f
Board w h i c h y o u r
wont
of
is
improvements
accoraiting,
of
fully
It
methods
on t h e
is
more
to
learns,
their
is
Kever­
alive
Local
Sub-Committee b e l i e v e s
-9.
a
is
Sub-Committeo
certain
an a c t i v i t y
are
t o ba
r e c e n t l y undertaken
and a s s i s t
to
slovsnly.
education
Your
r e q u i r e d by t h i s m a t t e r .
B o a r d has
that are
business methods.
into extravagance,
t h a t the
closely
in order
direction
not
degenerate
that
to be
one h a n d , o f m e t h o d s t h a t
the administration
attention
business
on t h o
of
recognises
expert
interference
Education
e c o n o m y and e f f i c i e n c y
Local A u t h o r i t i e s
of
instance,
of
and on t h e
tolerant
special
form,
safeguarding
one:
to
by L o c a l
undoubtedly a matter which needs
in the interests
check waste
lively
on a d m i n i s t r a t i o n
the
for
through
its
Education
of
office
part of
capable
of
the
the
most/
most
beneficial
as o p p o r t u n i t y
Your
that
the
results
is
administration
education
is
be d e s i r e d .
to
expenditure
largest
of
Autb.orj.ties,
former
as a r u l e ,
bonus;
Education
sirggests
and t h e
but
that
in
to
room f o r
further
and t h a t ,
in
order
Education
promptly
the necessary
particular,
that
fixed
it
estimated
for
salary
are
the
the
is
board
of
the
paid
is
not
In t h e
under t h i s
tration,
the methods
of
of
the
opinion
Service
the
that
there
administration.,
the
and s t a n d a r d s
above
by
living *
Board
education
a reduced
Local
of
Authorities
in
this
total,,
less
forecast,
than
should
Education A u t h o r i t i e s
be
to
grant.
case
heading,
your
education
Of
on
on
(other
b e i n g made
cost
per
expenditure
Civil
t h e hands o f
Local
10/4d
principle
in the
the
urban
amounts p a i d by
in the
its
between
average
is
of
as
London .;bba
the
Local
upon L o c a l
that
of
of
on s a l a r i e s
in expenditure
in
evidence
small
authorities
OTHER EXPEND ITURfc OF LOCAL EDUCATION
8.
some
child;
formed the
methods
desirable
expenditure
be r e c o g n i s e d f o r
of
fall
to enforce
by t h e
child;
scales
strengthen
economical
authorities.
b a s e d on t h e
have
is
number
proportion
reduction
economy
to
there
discrepancy
expenditure
with those
Your bub-Committee
is
greater
of
sufficient
proportion
per
education
comparison
authorities
that
a striking
a s E/- p e r
the
consists
than t e a c h e r s ' )
extended
by no means a s e c o n o m i c a l
different
Local
by f a r
administration
is
spends 1 7 / l l d .
all
Again,
variable
of
however,
no i n c o n s i d e r a b l e
is
spend a s l i t t l e
expenditure
child.
of
There
child
centre,
districts
find,
Authorities
per
w i t h a d v a n t a g e " be
afforded.
Sub-Committee
Local
and. m i g h t
of
the
objects
as i n t h e
bub-Committee
some L o c a l
case
find
of
that
of
AUTHORITIES.
expenditure
expenditure
there
included
on admin i s - . ,
is evidence
Education A u t h o r i t i e s
are
not
that
as
economical
a s t h e state
economical
The f o l l o w i n g
Table,
shows a v e r y
head,
of
the-n&tJbOTaal^llaa^
analysing
wide v a r i a t i o n
London and t h e r e s t
of
the
fee o f
-urea.
this
between e x p e n d i t u r e
in
III,
Other e x p e n d i t u r e
Bocks
and
Stationery.
under
country,
TABLE
Cost p e r
expenditure
(1920-21).
Child.
J^uel,
Light
and
Cleaning.
Upkeep, o f
Buildings
& Grounds
including
Repairs &
Insurance.
Rates
and
Taxe s .
s.
d.
s.
d.
s.
d.
s.
d*
12.
1.
£0.
4.
20.
8.
7.
5.
6.
2.
12.
3.
2.
4.
7.
6.
7.
3.
14.
0.
4.
6.
8.
2.
5,
7.
13.
0.
2*
6.
Droughs
9.
4.
9.
6.
15.
1.
5.
8.
iban
8 . 3*
8.
5.
14.
1.
4.
7.
)hdon
I
I
,
lunties ( i i i x c l u d ­
I London).
1
flinty
Boroughs
Districts
12.10.
j AYERAGE
Taking " O t h e r e x p e n d i t u r e "
as a whole
c o s t (£10,160, OOv)'was e q u i v a l e n t
e
39/- per c h i l d .
I n some a r e a s i t
20s.
and i t
58s.
i n West a&m, 6 2 s . i n H a l i f a x ,
Stationery
suggests
amount o f
s
was a s l o w a s 1 5 / - and
73s.8d,
comparison with the c o s t
to figures
Office,
supplied
in the case
of
these
Authorities
are not
services
as g r e a t
of
that
49s. in
similar
of
Inspeotor
by t h e L o c a l
should
services,
Viorks,
of
a r e now b e i n g
as they
Berbyshire
i n London.
by t h e O f f i c e
and t h e T r e a s u r y
that the reductions
total
t o an a v e r a g e
r a n g e d up t o 4 5 s . i n M i d d l e s e x ,
Against,
according
in 1920-21 the
Rates,
effected
Education
be i n v i e w
of
general
the
- g e n e r a l . , f a l l .in t h e o o e t o f -l&bour..-and.-materials.
Bub-Committee
can
is therefore
be e f f e c t e d
this
case,
fixed
in this
Education a u t h o r i t i e s
enable
the board
benefit
8.
Your
specifying
b e y o n d which
desirable
that
should
headings
of
in respect
fixed
that
however,
a fixed
is
eduction
to
above.
of
£61,000,000 f o r e c a s t e d
Education
Sub-Committee
of
by t h e B o a r d
is satisfied
the
of
these
A u t h o r i t i e s on
s h o u l d be
economies
i s of opinion
in a saving
with
between the
f o r grant
s h o u l d be r e d u c e d b y £ 1 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0
(which would r e s u l t
possible,
be named by w h i c h
of the possible
Your bub-Committee
total
total.
t o be r e c o g n i s e d
ih c o n s i d e r a t i o n
to a
to distribute
sum s h o u l d
of Local
so
practically
of Education,
i n pursuance
total
h a s done
a s may be
t o t h e Board
in the
of the
education
it
matlEaa,
resjiOnsibility,
included
expenditure
elementary
It
t o the
of expenditure
be l e f t
now r e m a i n s ,
total
Your
education
whioh a r e thus r e n d e r e d n e c e s s a r y
principles,
2 above
f o r grant
in applying
an a r e a
whom i s t h e e x e c u t i v e
reduced,
by L o c a l
t h e maximum s h o u l d be a p p l i e d
it
the
EDUCATION
under c o n s i d e r a t i o n .
that
the p r i n c i p l e
It
question.
opinion
Estimates
and t h a t
f o r the
in i t s
expenditure
as wide
would
the reduction which
be r e c o g n i s e d
covering
Local
from
in the expenditure
believes
of
so f a r
headings
various
have
by a
for grant,
to r e a l i s e
in
in
refrained
to
economies
the e x p e n d i t u r e
the economies
bub-Committee
and t h a t
a reduction
K i l l n o t be r e c o g n i s e d
Authorities
it
A
T-Q EAIEJNDIIUKE ON E U i ^ i i T A h Y
s h o u l d be made
because
f u r t h e r -eeoucm-ie B
to above,
of Education promptly
in figures
of
that
of exjjahditure,
referred
of the taxpayer
LIMIT
opinion
region
as in others
sum o f t h e t o t a l
of
Your
that
the
of Education
to
this
total
in
Table
£60,000,000
£ 5 6 0 , 0 0 0 t o the
that
referred
reduction
Lxchecue^).
can bo
effected
e f f e c t e d . An. e x p e n d i t u r e - on? e l ^ i a & o t - i r y e d u c a t l o a i hyMiae^meiaMis"
preferred, t o without
educational
hardship
to
the r a t e p a y e r
or l o s s
of
efficiency.
HIGHER EDUCATION.
10.
total
In f o r e c a s t i n g
expenditure
the f i g u r e
by L o c a l E d u c a t i o n a u t h o r i t i e s
education
t o be r e c o g n i s e d
the
of- e d u c a t i o n h a s s t a r t e d
Board
£12,928,000
for grant
at a figure
deducted from t h a t
figure
expenditure
discontinuance
t h e sum o f
at the f i g u r e
I t h a s t o be t a k e n
into
account
i n 1923-24 o f
expenditure
i n 1922-23;
be a b l e
being
to e f f e c t
taken
increase
for
In f e e s ,
that
automatic
some £ 3 2 0 , 0 0 0
equivalent
schools
i^eoondary
for
will
1923-24.
of
places
require
in excess
this,
The
increases
S c h o o l s and o t h e r
but a s a g a i n s t
decreases
to
£12,500,000
on t h e Burnham s c a l e s
expenditure
to
grants
of
In secondary
of
t o be s a v e d by t h e
Education A u t h o r i t i e s ,
Board t h u s a r r i v e s
Higher Education
in respect
of Continuation
o f t h e system o f double
of t e a c h e r s
of .
i n 1922-23 as a b a s i s .
£207,OOQ,
of expenditure
S c h o o l s n o t p r o v i d e d by l o o a l
a figure
2)
1923-24 t h e Board h a v e
t o be s a v e d by t h e c l o s i n g
and £ 2 0 0 , 0 0 0 i n r e s p e c t
of
with
for
on h i g h e r
( a s shewn I n ' s t a b l e
as t h e p r o b a b l e e x p e n d i t u r e
In o r d e r t o a r r i v e
salaries
o f £12,500,000 as the
of
an
similar
the hoard
hopes
e c o n o m i e s ' by m e a s u r e s now
in' t h e numbers o f ' t e a c h e r s
and by t h e f a l l
In the c o s t
of
and f o r
labour
and
materials.
On c o n s i d e r a t i o n
Sub-Committee
of
the
economies
factors
and p r i c e s ,
o f t h e iioard o f
in these
,
your
in thus a l l o w i n g
£320,000 f o r economies t o
of staff
estimate
relevant
i s not convinced: that
the order of
reduction
of a l l
be e f f e c t e d
and by t h e r a i s i n g
Education a l l o w s
directions that
Of
a sum
by t h e
fees,
f o r a l l the
are p o s s i b l e ,
and
essential
indeed
39 o
essential
la t h i s
in the present
connection
has been s a i d
matter
of
ii
above
state
shduld
as i o
administration
elementary
education
of
the n a t i o n a l
finances,
be o b b b r v e d t h a t ranch o f
urteooiaoinib&l
standards
and O t h e r E x p e n d i t u r e
applies
with equal
force
in
as
to
what
the.
regards
higher
education,
11,
There
economies
of
the
is
1933-24 e s t i m a t e
training
are
being
of
in
by t h e
the
r e d u c e d maxima f o r
adopted,
it
accelerated.
to
It
with consequent
Education,
the
number o f
when t h e
to f o r e c a s t
a restricted
to training
academic
year
this
substantial
reduction
at
the
now f o r e s h a d o w e d
by t h e
Tho p r i n c i p l e
for
the
of
immediate
training,
Board
future
of
Ja e m p l o y m e n t
that
it
admission
after
review
will
beginning
be
training
when t h a t
for
herein
the
into
be
of
of
has
possible
new
their
e c o n o m i e s may t h e r e f o r e
which w i l l
total
in
the
and o f
by t h e
believes
result
If
on
situation
programme
direction
in
will
in
taken
teachers
September 1923.
la
by t h e C a b i n e t
of
oolleges
anticipated
12,
the
be u n d e r t a k e n
Uib-Committee
in
toachers
of
measures
measures w i l l
be p o s s i b l e
become a v a i l a b l e ,
students
tioa
of
returns
rummer v a c a t i o n
been made y o u r
to
those
reduction
is that
recommended
in the expenditure
review
It
described,
education
which
in a
teachers employed.
should t h e r e f o r e
has y e t
education,
expected that
oconomies
in
would r e s u l t
of education that
elementary
the
particular
AS a l r e a d y
number o f
A general
leciiiremeats
that
higher
Board
may be
reduce
colleges.
for
teachers,
taken
a reduction
future
a; s p e c i a l
s h o u l d be o b t a i n a b l e
the
are
further
permit
of
be
a
estimate
for
higher
by f i x e d
ma&ima was
educa­
Board.
control
the h i g h e r e d u c a t i o n e s t i m a t e
in the
adopted
current
year
year.
The l i m i t
of
£11,000,000 f o r the expenditure
l..e.*a *s t o be r e c o g n i s e d
the
vieddes Committee
attainment,
1922-23,
respect
with
f o r g r a n t w h i c h was recommended by
was r e j e c t e d
but a l i m i t
of
as i m p o s s i b l e
the a d d i t i o n
kub-Committee
that
"a further
recognises
p r o p o s e d by t h e ..ioard o f E d u c a t i o n
way t o meet
the requirement
it
i s of
opinion
that
at
a somewhat l o w e r f i g u r e
It
i s observed
that
£13,000,000 f o r 1922-23,
put
of
thus made
later
without
in the
by t h e C a b i n e t ;
any undue
for
i n by t h e L o c a l a u t h o r i t i e s ,
the Local
Education
within
t h e new l i m i t j
to
Your kub-Committee
on h i g h e r
should be r e d u c e d t o
The f u r t h e r
at
estimates
promptly
£12,927,000.
therefore
recommend t h a t
1 9 2 3 - 2 4 t h e maximum e x p e n d i t u r e
Authorities
but
sacrifice.
on t h e
expenditure
some
1923-24
t h e maximum had been f i x e d
in reducing
year".
£12,500,000 g o e s
reduction
succeeded
in
t h e l i m i t now
a large
Authorities
year
that
for
reduction
t h e maximum may be f i x e d
after
of
£ 1 3 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 was a d o p t e d
o f 1 9 2 3 - 2 4 s h o u l d be c o n s i d e r e d
Your
of
education
of Local
f o r the
Education
to b e . r c c o g n i s e d
for
grant
£12.250,000,,
saving
t o the exchequer w i l l
be
£125,000.
^MIIISIPATION AMD.
IUSPJSOTIOB
MUSBbllS e t c g
13*
In the
sketch estimate
had n o t b e e n made f o r
w a r bonus t o
deducted
is
Your
85 p o i n t s
of
the
year
the
Clerical
levy,
1983-24 r e n d e r s
economies
it
enquired
r^te
of
be
Into
the
economies,
B o a r d by t h e
cost
difficult
the A d m i n i s t r a t i v e
at
The
introduction
least
to e f f e c t
Board can e f f e c t
£IE,600,;bringing
the
total
circumstances,
investigation
of
the
reductions
at
£5,000
any
of
in
saving
investigation
and f o r
Sub-Committee
have
£787,102,
further
of
the purposes
the
reductions
on
have
a reduction
other
close
authorities
this- r e p o r t ,
above
saving
present
moment w o u l d n e e d
of
a
amounting
specially
local
close
your
figure.
on a d m i n i s t r a t i o n
being
In t h e
require
present
Board
and. by c e r t a i n
£15,700,
which
accepted
The e x p e n d i t u r e
to
tho
thereby e f f e c t i n g
vacancies
expenditure
the
otaff,
posts
By t h e n o n - f i l l i n g
the
exceptional
i n the
The sum t o
staff
which w i l l
suppressed 4 f u r t h e r
£3,100,.
allowance
C
Staff.
As r e g a r d s
stand a t
further
w o r k i m p o s e d upon t h e
Superannuation
furthor
have c l o s e l y
effecting
the
of
assumed r e d u c t i o n
above p r e - w a r .
Sub-Committee
additional
i n *UD8
£15,900,
possibility
already
the
submitted
of
and i n s p e c t i o n
£56,000 or
will
nearly
to
Conclusion
14.
The f i g u r e
basis for
be
further
of
£ 4 3 , 3 3 5 , 0 0 0 w h i c h was a d o p t e d a s
enquiry
can u n d e r t h e
above
recommendations
reduced
£
as t o £ r a n t s t o L o c a l iiducation
A u t h o r i t i e s f o r elementary
e d u c a t i o n by
-560,000
as to Grants to L o c a l e d u c a t i o n
Authorities for higher
e d u c a t i o n by
125,000
in
making
a revised
But i t
itself
total
will
be
all
of
in
Department
estimate
report
showing
in
for
total
June
training:
of
on t h e
Sketch
Estimate
originally
s u b m i t t e d by
on
set
£1,000,000
operation
of
is
reduction
£
279,000
out
in
this
in 1923-24,
the. e s t i m a t e s
cost
of
by
1922-23, of
£674,000 i s
due t o
of
war
the
bthr.r hand,
reduced
£500,000
by
Burnham
post
the
cost
£2,i250, 000
an a u t o m a t i c
scheme o f
of
the
cost
of
salaries
teachers'
decrease
educational
ordinary
£1,576,000 d e s p i t e
on t h e
on t e a c h e r s '
the
the
1,971,000
reduction
on t h e
of
£42,335,000
the
....
reductions
of the
Board
increases
of
figure
showed a s a v i n g
1922-23...of
a total
respect
the
the
amount t o
Of t h i s
of
£42,650,000.
June.
comparison w i t h
in
£ 6 8 5 , 000
remembered t h a t
The S k e t c h E s t i m a t e
and t h e
.
showed a l a r g e - r e d u c t i o n
submitted
the
services
automatic
pensions
due i n 1 9 2 3 - 2 4 u n d e r
and
the
scales.
15.
finally
15* ^ j ^ a l l y y y o u r - - . ^ ^ ^
opinion
that
adequate
to
the
in view
financial
division
of
if
the
t o be e f f e c t e d ,
Provisions)
at the
Bill
earliest
the
control
intrinsic
difficulty
responsibility
the
relating
possible
of
between
ahd t h e B o a r d o f e d u c a t i o n ,
reductions
that
record
its
securing
over educational expenditure,
executive
Education A u t h o r i t i e s
essential,
of
to
suggested
clauses
of
the
to education
moment.
in t h i s
-economy
due
Local
it
report
is
are
(Miscellaneous
s h o u l d become
law
PART
Public Education
15.
II.
(Scotland).
W i t h i n narrow l i m i t s ,
Scotland,
the
sum v o t e d
for
i s c a l c u l a t e d a u t o m a t i c a l l y under
the c u r r e n t
estimates
of
public
Education^
statute
the Board o £ E d u c a t i o n
once
have
been
determine d.
Original
Estimates
19 2 2 ^ 2 3 .
'.
Main Heads.
F o r e c a s t f o r 19 83-24
on b a s i s o f Board of
Education Sketch
E s t i m a t e o f June,
-
£
(I)
(ii)
(iii)
(iv)
Grants t o L o c a l
Education Authorities
Superannuation
Teachers
6,372,725
6,065,793
242,872
321,382
232,362
122,500
181,605
172,500
of
Higher Education
E x - s e r v i c e Men
of
A l l other expend!­
ture
(Administration,
I n spe c t i on, Museums
e to ) .
GROSS T O T A L . . .
less
7,029,564
6,682,175
316,250
330,000
6,713,314
.6,352,175
Appropriations
in Aid
BET T O T A L . . . . . . . . . .
The p r o v i s i o n u n d e r h e a d s
statute
(iii)
from t h o
is
not
(i)
of
have no r e c o m m a n d a t i o n t o
-
report
of
the
Board of
reduction of
which would
would
Education
follow
thus
be
of
effect
11/80ths o f
automatically
(ii)
and y o u r
for
under
in Part
£262,487,
Public
I
expenditure
A
£1,909,000*
£6,089,688.
head
(iv).
i n the
amount v i z ,
Vote
reduced to
of
under
sub-committee
your sub-committee
a reduction
this
determined
under head
on g r a n t s
on t h e
is
the e x p e n d i t u r e
control,
offer
The r e c o m m e n d a t i o n s
this
and
English f i g u r e s ;
susceptible
of
­
would
Education,
Scotland,
The s k e t c h E s t i m a t e showed a s a v i n g
and y o u r s u b - c o m m i t t e e
further
saving
o f . . . - . ^ 3 6 1 . 159
recommend a
of
262,487
making a t o t a l r e d u c t i o n i n 1 9 2 3 - 2 4 , b y
comparison with the o r i g i n a l e s t i m a t e s
f o r 1922-23 o f
.
16.
It
may a t
first
r e d u c t i o n on t h e
viz.
o v a r 9f
on £44,900,000
the
are
a fund
of
on t h e
it
is
underspent,
difference
actual
between
expenditure.
require
respect
Grants
of
and
£2,250.000
is
as
follows.
grants
to
Scottish
teachers
surrendered at
in any year
if
at
the
is
have
of
been
t o o much b y 1 1 / 0 0 t h e
year.
has
and t h e
to
The
be
of
the
English
adjusted
Scottish
manner i n
based
the c l o s e
estimates
estimates
in this
surrender
to U n i v e r s i t i e s
not
figure
This d i f f e r e n c e
adjustment
a large
are
the English
in a subsequent
by
of
to
the
£6,713,314
explanation
in that year;
English
on
reduced
pensions
has r e c e i v e d
the
that
in respect
Scottish
found t h a t
Scotland
under s t a t u t e
will
The
English estimates
the year
and o f
and s a v i n g s
the y e a r .
is
The
the E x c h e q u e r
Authorities
close
£623,626
E n g l i s h Vote
Scottish Local
into
is
or by 5$ o n l y .
The sums drawn f r o m
paid
a p p e a r anomalous
S c o t t i s h Vote
while
e
sight
£623,626
vote
1923-24
on t h e E n g l i s h V o t e
in
for
X92l/22o .
Colleges.
R e c u r r e n t Son - - r e c u r r e n t " .
B
£
1913-14 A c t u a l
"y.
443,623
5/.-:".G3
1921-22 E s t i m a t e
1,500,000
500,000
19S2-23 E s t i m a t e
1,169,000
1923-24
1,169,000
17.
The
page
122)
1922-23,
Expenditure
"
Sketch Estimate
Geddes C o m m i t t e e
t h a t a sum o f
subject
to
recommended
£1,200*000
any r e d u c t i o n s
.20-
(first
should
r
Interim
Report,
be p r o v i d e d
which might
in
automatically
.
f
0
l
l
0
7
?
/
follow
from t h e
Universities
transfer
of
and C o l l e g e s .
r e c o m m e n d a t i o n wbuld have
to
£1,089,000.
report
o f the
I t was,
Royal
to the
transfer
in
respect
of
£20^000 was p r o v i d e d
of
Geddes
list
the
fixed
figure.
exactly
reduced
however,
of
out
for
this
1922-23
i n view
of
the
and C a m b r i d g e
grants
sums o f
£30,000
and i n a d d i t i o n a m a r g i n
of
a special
College.
at £1,169,000 v i z .
It
carried
necessary
in respect
Imperial
Irish
the e s t i m a t e
recurrent
each U n i v e r s i t y
into
accordingly
If
C o m m i s s i o n on O x f o r d
to
proceeding
responsibility, fbr
i s now p r o p o s e d
enquiry
was
The v o t e
£80,000 above
to
repeat
the
sum i n
this
1923-24.
It
real
must be r e o o g n i a e d
assistance
increased
at
its
if
consider
reduction
that
as t h e
grant
but
this
grani
remain
(o)
is
to
do n o t
justify
(a)
a
face
very
of
(b)
increase
Inevitable
I n the
the
obtaining
could
some
almost
w i t h d r a w s money f r o m
State
Universities
assistance
and A p p r o v e d B e n e f a c t o r s
more
recommend-accordingly that
-
unchanged.
(Sgd.)
a
r e d u c t i o n s , , which
is
is
maintained
a reduction
t a s k of
the
Universities
that
in the
assistance
make t h e i r
Sub-Committaa
should
prices,
the c o n t r o v e r s y ;
develop:
Local Authorities
Your
year
and f u r t h e r
In state
only d i r e o t l y
to
the
sufficient
the r e a s o n s
would r e v i v e
tends also
from
for
is
was made t h i s
year
to
the c a s h g r a n t
argument
Universities
not
State
falling
But y o u r S u b - C o m m i t t e e
opposition
be l a r g e ,
to
of
level.
cut
considerable
from year
total
on t h e v o t e
substantial
not
g i v e n by the
the
present
that with
HILTON YQUHS*
the
difficult.
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MINISTRY OF HEALTH.
CLASS v T I
1913^4
Audited-,1.4iixpeailturo
-
£4,206,913.
1921/22
Estimates
(not)
-
£24,745,598.
1922/23
Esclmat-es
(net)
-
£22,512,562.
1923/i2-4
Sketch Estimates
-
£20,824,800.
*-.
1,
for
The
(net)
I"
-*
S
*£*
Sketch Estimates
Q
i'.
s
of
the M i n i s t r y
1923/24 compare w i t h t h e E s t i m a t e s f o r
financial
year
as
the
of
Health
current
follows
1922/2^
jlnary
1.
e
1923/24
Increase
Decrease
Services.
linistration
...
1,518,707
l 411,800
-
106,907
9.650,000
9 450,000
-
£00,000
...
3,121,500
3,115,500
-
6,000
...
210,000
149,500
-
60,500
Grants
450,000
1,000,000
;lth I n s u r a n c e
yjpes a r i s i n g
of t h e vJTar
fate B u i l d e r s
6 0G?,000
5,886,000
jiiy
...
2,500,000
...
261,000
2.000
23,718,207
21,014,800
550,000
1.205.645
190,000
1,015,645
£22,512,562
£20,824,800
1,565,645
fiing
1th. G r a n t s
c
0
I
1
ital
Grants
Sanatoria
ffiployment
r
550,000
-
121,000
-
2,500,000
-
259,000
B
fr
...
-
Special
fVices
Sopriationo
lid
Bet T o t a l
Net
decrease
-
1
­
£1,687,762.
3,253,407
3,253,407
It
will
be seen t h a t
Sketch Estimate
Housing
Insurance
(approximately
the
the
of
expenditure
Unemployment
Vote
in respect
little
of certain
Apart,
the Ministry
Venereal Diseases,
The Sub--Committee
desire
of the Estimates
indicate
the l i m i t e d
practicable,
In s h o r t ,
of this
sphere
o f the Blind,
i s a fundamental
change
scheme,
less
the product
of the whole
drastic
The $ u b - C o m m i t t e e n e v e r t h e l e s s
of
o f t h e penny r a t e ,
or
system
of National
reductions
have
in this
reduce
the p a s t
of
the
It will
t h e Vote
result
be c o n v e n i e n t
as I n d i c a t e d
reduction
Sketch Estimate
Estimate.
impressed
have made t o
two y e a r s .
t o taice t h e main
and r e p o r t
of the Sub-Committee's
(1)
The
above
Health
been f a v o u r a b l y
which t h e M i n i s t r y
2,
of i t s
in respect
by t h e c o n t i n u o u s e f f o r t s
during
in p o l i c y .
b y t h e Government
the Housing
expenditure
this
vvithin which economies a r e
the whole o f the d e f i c i t
could e f f e c t
e t c
in order t o
to bear
Insurance,
from
t o emphasise
Department
but a r e p u d i a t i o n
recasting
on t h i s
M a t e r n i t y and
undertaking
an e n t i r e
of
w i t h a sum
is left
Welfare
a t the outset
unless there
nothing
activities
£3,000,000 i n r e s p e c t o f i t s H e a l t h work
more t h a n
Child Welfare,
£1,000,000
therefore,
i , , e . the g r a n t s f o r /Tuberculosis,
proper,
Health
-which i s borne
of convenience.
of administration,
cost
o f H e a l t h f o r 1923/24,
£9,000,000) and N a t i o n a l
Grants Committee,
f o r purposes
aspect
by the M i n i s t r y
£6 , 000, OuO.);. a f u r t h e r
(approximately
represents
o f £20, 82^,800, t h e
£15,000,000 i s e s t i m a t e d e x p e n d i t u r e i n r e s p e c t
approximately
of
presented
out o f a t o t a l
Subheads
under each
head
investigation..
ADMIN IS TKATIOH.
as p r e s e n t e d p r o v i d e s
i n 1923/24 o f £106,907,
This
a c u t o f £656,.648 a s b e t w e e n , t h e l a s t
for a
r e d u c t i o n f o l l o w s on
and t h e c u r r e n t
financial
year'a
estimate*
representatives
that
they
In response
of
the
may be a b l e
£ 1 0 , 0 0 0 on t h e i r
w o u l d be
by t h e
Sub-Oonamittee
in
to
of
places
charge
in
would be
proposed
to
i n c o n n e c t j on w i t h
subsidy,
of
understand
that
that
on t h i s
be r e g a r d e d
of
programme,
or
of
the
of
existing
i n 1923/24 w i l l
temporary
matter,
as p a r t
building.
rates
the
of
of
this
suggested
the
to
non­
the
1923/24
on the
however,
it
not
The
of
of
the
that
respect
the
interest
at
the
financial
of
the
Housing
176,, 000 h o u s e s ,
year
be met
agree
the
by t h e
by a f u r t h e r
with
the
after
deficit
Exchequer
£200,000
presented,,
expenditure
respect
view
should
on money b o r r o w e d
any f u r t h e r
of
programme
in vie% of
as o r i g i n a l l y
in
utilisation
t o o k the
Government's
that
be r e d u c e d
Cabinet
the
Housing
The S u b - C o m m i t t e e
fall
that
of
t h a n as .a p a r t
ocheme t o
to
the
approached
Cabinet
stabilised
present
that
Sub-Committee
has a l r e a d y
in
Housing
on a much l o v i e r b a s i s
Housing
by t h e
of
deficit
were
and t h a t
expenditure
therefore
be a p p r o v e d
the
Scheme.
Minister
Sketch Estimates
Assuming
of
k e e p i n hand £ 1 5 0 , 0 0 0 f o r
They now u n d e r s t a n d
the beginning
on t h e
of
£9,300,000,
which has been
view.
on t h e
the
an e x t e n s i o n ,
the
rather
built
reduction
or p a r t
the M i n i s t r y
t o w a r d s m e e t i n g Unemployment,
this
£art
transference
They a d m i t t e d ,
the- H o u s i n g
any f u r t h e r
either
the
indicated
reduction
figure *
whole
respect
£9,450,000.
figure
Minister
H e a l t h have
the
HOUSING.
Sketch Estimate
the
Cabinet
the
pressure
staff.
Scheme a t
real
of
work f r o m
(2)
The
of
make a f u r t h e r
respect
insurance
permanent
Ministry
further
Sketch Estimate
saving
compliance
to
of
Housing
w h i c h may
will
come
out
of
money
Out o f
this
figure
for
set
aside
Subhead o f
originally
of
of
Unemployment
Subhead w i l l
on t h e
that
very
in
a vigorous
order to
however,
oi
against
Provisions)
carefully
the
the
Bill
of
made
policy
reduce
fact
the
that
insertion"
a clause
of
as
enabling
possession
the
Sub-Committee
saving
in
a Departmental
considering
Restrictions
tinsanee' of
the
Committee
Act
of
the
Should t h a t
be
ineffective.
the
(Miscellaneous
that
policy
of
of
the
bo
any
understand
time
the
Rent
recommend a
Government
compel
cannot
They
of
to
under
the p r e s e n t
Committee
In
already
prospect
continuance
and s h o u l d t h e
such a r e c o m m e n d a t i o n ,
to
at
has
Minister
sales.
should
burden.
o f houses
little
from
is
the
the\fact
verj
subsidy
Question
Act...
the
the
see
houses
Economy
Act f r e e
Restrictions
of
the Cabinet
in the
the
Geddes
T
Eent
continue
£9,100,000,
taxpayer s
and o f
accept
not
revised
considered
sale
to. sell,
that
be
by t h e
Local Authorities
material
the
Sketch E s t i m a t e
w h i c h was o r i g i n a l l y
be a d o p t e d
given,
Vote,
ana
presented.
suggestion
decided
this
£350,000
The S u b - C o m m i t t e e
view,
respect
the M i n i s t r y ' s
1923/24 f o r
a reduction
Committee
in
decide
sale
will
con­
to
(3.)
PUBLIC HEALTH GRAFTS *
The p o s i t i o n a s
heading
is
regards
summarised i n t h e
expenditure
table
Expenditure:
1922-?j3
19 2 0 - 1
! Gedd.es
j Recomman­
i dation
under
hereunder.
'
iternity and
this
EiJ uinia t e a
Sketch
Estimate
1923/24*
ihild W e l f a r e
989,000
; 1,042,000
1,117,000
1,072,000
iberculosis
Maintenance)
961,OOC
i
1,202,001
1,452,000
1,484 ,000
325,000
!
424,000
424,000
420,500
85,000
80,000
90,000
45,000
45.000
3,118,000
3,112,000
me r e a l
liseases
i
ilfare o f
the B l i n d
58,000
I
ort S a n i t a ­
ftion.
TOTAL
:
Nil
27,000 i
2,753,000
2,360,000
The S u b - C o m m i t t e e
possibility
of
steady
the
to
the M i n i s t r y
fixing
the
rationing
Ministry
decline
that
i n the c o s t
a material
the
of
total
of
each grant
Local Authorities
replied
that
Government
position
In respect
of
explored
of
these
of
living
reduction
every
grants,,
they
on t h e
n o t u n r e a s o n a b l y be o b t a i n e d b y
grants
Health
c e r t a i n l y not without
a term of
accordingly.
it
would be
imposing
Grants.
weight.
the
In
figures
arbitrarily
and
To t h i s
the
Percentage
Grants
as regards
unfair
view
suggested
years
the whole s i t u a t i o n
by v i r t u a l l y
these
for
w h i l e Lord Meston's
C o m m i t t e e was e x p l o r i n g
basis
carefully
economy i n r e s p e c t
of
proposed might
have
to
the
prejudge
b l o c k j j r a h t . -system
This
argument
Furthermore,
the
is
representatives
i n the c o s t
automatio
of
o f the M i n i s t r y
living
increase
was more
urged that t h e
fall
than o f f s e t
the
of expenditure
resulting
m e n t s w h i c h c o u l d n o t now be r e p u d i a t e d
of
faith.
On t h e o t h e r hand
acknowledging
out
that
that
the
commitments
the Minister
Venereal
capita
Diseases
v e r y wide
Welfare
the
variations,
to
reserve
Service,
for
Moreover the
tables
the c d s t s
of
a less
economical
o f money b y some
The S u b - C o m m i t t e e
o f Health are
investigations
of
Local
into
figures
into
all
have
not,
for
of
the m a i n i t e m s o f
these
and a p p a r e n t
in framing
Public
Health
These g r a n t s
useful
representatives
the
constitute
form o f
in
of
the
should
be
enquiring
as a
this
the
They
result
fact,
of
Maternity
substantial
that
reduced by
T
and
and
Ministry
consider
sub-Committee s
the M i n i s t r y s a c t i v i t i e s ,
1
the
contained a
Sub-Committee
G r a n t s as a w h o l e
at
view
Estimate
in respect
and V e n e r e a l D i s e a s e s
development,
and
regard to
the Sketch estimates
and C h i l d W e l f a r e
for
by the
with a
any e c o n o m i e s
Hav i a .
local
extravagances.
the S k e t c h
for
the
expenditure
expenditure
variations
admission
margin
and
by
adthorities
exhaustive
with e f f i c i e n c y ,
investigations.
Health that
out
consistent
however,
institu­
that
on g r a n t - a i d e d s e r v i c e s ,
1 9 2 3 / 2 4 made a l l o w a n c e
to the
of
local
understand
now c a r r y i n g
per
be a c c o u n t e d f o r
the administration
Authorities
to standardising
lowest
expenditure
of
the
indicated
different
only
Ministry
the
and £ 2 4 , 0 0 0 f o r
v a r i a t i o n s which could
others.
pointed
Sub-Committee c a l l e d f o r
in
while
£120,000
tione,
than
breach
must be h o n o u r e d ,
and d e v e l o p m e n t s
Servicei
c o s t s which
without
commit­
'!
Respect of contingencies
M a t e r n i t y and C h i l d
from
sub-Committee j
had p r o p o s e d
i
i
in
by
view
they
the
£100,000.
the
most
understand
t h a t any f u r t h e r
of
the
services
not prepared
advising
cut would
and t h e
therefore
a larger
i n the
(a)
cost
of
Health
the
under t h e
allowed
Insurance
from
effecting
of
claims
sickness
(a)
present
the
for
possibility
two
of
economies
standpoints:­
a reduction
to appropriate
to e f f e c t
a suin n o t
in
the
figure
On t h e o t h e r
hand
the
permitting
sum i n r e s p e c t
induced
t o assume
an a r r a n g e m e n t
Exchequer
reduction
Societies
benefits
towards
of
audit,
of
Health
impression
are
the
of
would s a v e
suggested
extent
they could
the
the
e t c
Such
the Exchequer
i n the end
temporary
for
to
additional
to
to t h i s
Societies
were
Geddes
Moreover
revert
liable
between
the
I n answer
original
if
be
4/10 t o 4 / 5 .
would be
if
to r e t a i n
and be a v a i l a b l e
urged that
that
propose
the £ 6 0 , 0 0 0 w h i c h
2/9ths,
until
4/5 a member
valuation,
of
cost
Health
£ 6 0 , 0 0 0 would b e o n l y o f
reserves
of
that
a member
Societies
a reduction
of
to
administration
which the S t a t e
proportion
the M i n i s t r y
under tha
1
4/10
a muCh g r e a t e r
as t h e money s a v e d would
Approved
usual
to
as a g a i n s t
would s a v e b y
latter
duration,
of
practicable
£ 2 0 0 , 0 0 0 and £ 2 5 0 , 0 0 0
Funds t o
Sub-Committee
Approved
the c o s t
if
understand
t h a t the M i n i s t r y
this
present
over-estimated.
Insurance
of
for
expenditure
Apr-roved S o c i e t i e s
exceeding
t h e Exchequer would g a i n
in return
had b e e n
of
Sub-Committee
out o f
a reduction
possible.
the e s t i m a t e
arrangements
3 1 s t D e c e m b e r 1 9 2 2 , and
its
are
IHauPAiapB.,
that
administration
this
They
responsibility
e x a m i n e d the
of
beds.
than £100,000^
possibility
AS r e g a i - d s
that
the
of
cuartallment
administration,
in respect
of
taica
ILEAITH
the p o s s i b i l i t y
of
(b)
tb
Sub-Commit t e e
cost
in a general,
a c t u a l chsiug
reduction
(4)
The
result
contribute
suggestion
clearly
suggestion
410
that
the
cost
of
audit
mentioned above)
would not
pointed
case
induce
fee
s h o u l d be
be r e - o p e n e d
furthef
to
( t h e most e x p e n s i v e
until
out that
the
April
a lower
1923,
In
of
C o m m i t t e e do n o t p r o s s
that
to
tho
transferring
Approved
the
assumption t h a t
then
have to
State
would
thereof.
result
from
h a v o to
this
have
to
the
6 months
The C o m m i t t o e
and d i s a b l e m e n t
of
for
of
of
the
of
selected
Sub-
valuation,
be
etc.,
effected
benefit
of
i n so
in
Societies
1
On t h e
tho
respect
Health
far
by
would
as
have
not
they
£60,000 c o n t e m p l a t e d
each of
been
the
propose
as a
administration
annum,
indicates
charges
past
three
and t h a t
a similar
understand
friendly
lives.
greatly
to
years
impressed
the
the extent
VLe
result
of
experience
for
of
the
year.
claims
that
are
over-estimated
that
the
have h i t h e r t o
societies,
13 p e r o e n t was made
fact
or
consider
share
the M i n i s t r y
the
the Manchester U n i t y Experience
about
the
contributions,
two-ninths
of
January
Thoy
medical
Sub-Committee
££00,000 per
financial
experience
the
for
£500,000
being
its
saving
(b)
tnat
Bicxuess c l a i m s
present
of
Societies
4/5 a member.
As r e g a r d s
last
cost
reducing Approved
fact
stronger
i n D e c e m b e r 1923..
contingency except
i n hand t h e
4/10 t o
b y the
bear
in
audit,
Ministry
capitation
appropriately
be met b y an i n c r e a s e
for
of
of
inevitable
any e x t r a
a lower
proposal.
c o u l d more
which i s
a much
charge
funds,
The
representations
the c o s t
The e s t i m a t e s
provided
t o keep
their
items
society
c o u l d be shown t h a t
these
of
Societies
legislation
to a c c e p t
it
the
December 1 9 2 3 ,
administration
view
to
t h e y w o u l d have
doctors
I n December 1923 i f
had a c c e p t e d
transferred
of
the
friendly
to t h i s
estimates
of
sickness
b e e n b a s e d upon
latest
1893-7,
the
tables available
when an
experience
to
addition
compensate
s o c i e t i e s i n g e n e r a l dealt w i t h
It
of
appears
the p a s t
30 y e a r s
few y e a r s
ago,
the p r e s e n t
general
whole
to the
day.
heavy e x p e n d i t u r e
the
throw
benefit
next year
trade
this
is
itself
the
reduce
In view
of
those
opinion that
reduction
and d i s a b l e m e n t
Government
to reduce
the
tending
expensive
the r a t e
of
line
the
too high
'
25
to
for
the
community a s a
as
will
a result
of
and s o c i a l
that
the
services
in the
Actuary,
is
p r o v i s i o n now made
for
suggested
adequate
below:
the
i n the
of
to
unemployment
course
of
but
the
past
would
benefit.
for
a sub­
in
aid o f
After
of
unemployment
Sub-Committee
ground
1923-24.
of
tends
trade
f o r grants
but the
at l e a s t
sickness
consultation
H e a l t h are
by £250,000
with
prepared
sub-Committee
&4'10,000.
by t h o Sub-Committee,
compared w i t h tho M i n i 3 t r y s o r i g i n a l
T
of
benefit
for sickness
the M i n i s t r y
sketch estimate
the rate
on t o
the
for
some 12 m i l l i o n s
any r e v i v a l
estimate
claims
in importance,
considerations
there
reduce
sickness
diminish
the c l a i m s
benefits
The s a v i n g s
in tho table
to
that
cases
t h i n k t h a t t h e r e d u c t i o n s h o u l d be
3.
of
borne out by
covering
The f a c t
indicate
to
stantial
of
improves s u b s t a n t i a l l y
tend
of
is
results
experience
on h e a l t h
unemployment,
factor
e x p e r i e n c e would
the
factor
h i g h e r than
If
actual
decidedly
no d o u b t ,
the nation
tho charge i n border
Pund.
is
this
health
largely,
of
against
is
is,
the
employed p o p u l a t i o n .
benefit
are
that
important
sickness
insurance
that
the
decade,
Another
for
it
that
Such a c o n c l u s i o n
improving;
in t h e past
indicate
w e i g h t e d as
indications
is
Committee
estimate
are
as
summarised
E M i s t r y of
H e a l t h Sketch
E s t i m a t e 1923/24
E s t i m a t e as
r e v i s e d by
Sub-Committee.
Ordn
i ary S e r v i c e s .
1:
Idraifiistration
lousing
Health
Grants
1,411,800
1,401,800
9,450,000
9,100,000
3,115,500
3,015,500
149,500
149,500
Capital G r a n t s
to S a n a t o r i a
Unemployment
alth
1,000*000
1,000,000.^
5,886,000
5,486,000
2,000
2,000
014,800
20,154,800
190,000
190,000
£20,824,800
£19,964,800
Grants
Insurance
s arising
Service
cut o f t h e
War.
Urivate
Builders
Subsidy
pier
Special
Services
21,
Ippropriations
in Aid
1
let
Total
Ihe
Sketch E s t i m a t e
Bid t h e
Bet d e c r e a s e
laking a t o t a l
submitted
by t h e D e p a r t m e n t showed
a reduction of
- reoomnseaded b y t h e S u b - O o m m i t t e e I s
reduction,
I Ibe g r a n t s p a y a b l e u n d e r
are o f
Icheme
the loan charges
for
relieving
by c o m p a r i s o n w i t h
this
Unemployment
Ivenue and. r e v e n u e - p r o d u c i n g
1922/23, o f
Sub-head r e p r e s e n t
incurred
by l o c a l
£1,687,762
860,000,
the
2,547,762.
Governments
Authorities
under
b y means o f e x p e n d i t u r e
works..
The S u b - C o m m i t t e e
the
on n o n -
understand
I
at s i n c e t h e
Spenditure t o
Sketch E s t i m a t e s were p r e s e n t e d
be i n c u r r e d u n d e r
this
the
limit
Scheme h a s b e e n
of
capital
increased
for
19EE/24 w i t h
and t h a t
by
this
£50,000.
by r e a s o n
the
Cabinet
sanction
Sub-head w i l l
Should t h e
of
accordingly
limit
any e x t e n s i o n
from £EO,000,000 t o
of
of
Sub-head w i l l
be
the Housing
inevitable.
(Sgd, )
J . Bo Bore o f o r d .
Secretary.
October
3rd,
1-3EE.
to
£ 3 0 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 be
G o v e r n m e n t ' s Unemployment p r o g r a m m e ,
in t h i s
have
EE&L
Scheme
£30,000,000,
be
increased
increased
as p a r t
a further
of
increase
csL-6.
COMMITTEE ON BAT LOWAL. EXPENDITURE-.
LORD PEEL' S, -SUB-COMMITTEE.
R E P O R,;T.
PART
II.
SCOTTISH BOARD OE HEALTH.
CLASS
1913/14
1921/22
1922/23
1923/24
The S k e t c h E s t i m a t e s
Board o f
Ordinary
the
2.
- Audited Expenditure
- Estimates (net)
- Estimates (net)
- Sketch E s t i m a t e s ( n e t ) -
1.
for
VII.
Health
current
for
£652,392
£3,375,999
£1,712,422
£2,735,168.
of
Scottish
1923/24 compare w i t h
year
as
1922/5.
a
the
Estimates
Increase.
Decrease,
follows:
.
1923/4.
Services.
Administration
...
198,530
188,020
Housing
...
' 426,320
1,235,670
Health Grants
...
517,620
514,550
Capital Grants
to Sanatoria
...
-
Health
the
...
Insurance
46,000
10,510
809,350
3,070
46,000
827,750
796,000
31,750
420,000
15,000
405,000
34,500
4,000
30,500
2,424,720
2,799,240
855,350
712,298
64,072
643,226
1,712,422
2,735,168
1,503,576
Services arising
put o f t h e V?ar.
Subsidy t o P r i v a t e
Builders . . .
...
Other s p e c i a l
services
Appropriations)
in Aid
)
Net
Increase
£1,022,746.
480,830
480,830
The v e r y
due,
the
less
rapidly
rate
of
progress
shows a v e r y
will
Schemes
for
requiring
the
the
current
the
practicable
Moreover
our
2
Estimate
Health,
Scottish
of
for
to further
Board o f
Sub-Committee
statistics
£3,000
to
although
Subhead
in
pro­
Scotland
1924/5
year
there
or
will
materials.
this
of
the
of
the
Health
economies
as
aro
Department.
Scottish
Board
the E n g l i s h
c a n be s h o r t l y
the
cost
of
of
Ministry
s u m m a r i s e d as
cut i n t h e
for
the
enquiries
the
that
of
cost
by the
follows:
of
illnesses
the Permanent
the
of
for
the
Ministry
of
administration
financial
year.
Sub-Committee,
to effect
in respect
the
o f £ 1 0 , 5 1 0 on
current
Sketch Estimates
to
Administration
case
with satisfaction
relative
The;/ u n d e r s t a n d
slower
corresponding
Ministry of
those
Health propose
note
h a s b e e n made i n
force
deficit
the
that
within which r e a l
As i n t h e
substantial
approximately
on t h e
and p r a c t i c e
was made I n t h e E s t i m a t e s
In response
to
r e m a r k s w h i c h w e r e made b y
shows a d e c r e a s e
1922/23.
a very
the
ADMINISTRATION.
£138,020
for
on t h e
building
t h e most p a r t
The e s t i m a t e
1923/24 o f
of
report
sphere
(1)
is
Moreover next
sale
conclusions
*
owing
The r e s u l t
year.
as t h e p o l i c y
Health
in England,
mainly
h a s m a t u r e d much
t h e maximum d e f i c i t
apply with equal
for
that
1
in t h e i r
foJlow
the f a c t
i n t h e E s t i m a t e s made u n t i l
from t h e
limited
is
to
Increase
same g e n e r a l
Sub-Committee
£1,022,746
t o be made u n d e r t h e H o u s i n g
year
following
The
regards
than
substantial
be n o r e c e i p t s
Health
of
Local Authorities
in building.
n o t be r e f l e c t e d
possibly
of
of
in Scotland
provision
vision
increase
Sub-Committee u n d e r s t a n d ,
on t h e H o u s i n g
the
large
a further
the
reduction
Administration.
that
for
of
no s p e c i a l
the
The
provision
compilation
insxired
Consultative
of
persons.
Committee
on
Statistics
If
advised
any work on t h e
Committee
suggest
on S t a t i s t i c s
against
1922 c a r d s
that
should
(2)
The
ties
in respect
restricted
to
55/
Board i n t h e i r
in
respect
mately
of
of
were c o n t e m p l a t e d t h o
t h e Permanent
first
be
Consultative
Cards.
Sub-
Committee
consulted.
HOUSING.
Board have
the Sub-Committee
worn: on t h e 1921 I n s u r a n c e
that
concurred
payments
i n the
of
the
70;"- a s
Sketch Estimates.
the Housing
made
on a c c o u n t . t o L o c a l
the Housing Subsidv i n
instead
proposal
Subsidy w i l l
Author1*
1923/24 s h o u l d
contemplated
By t h i s
by
by
be
the
means t h e
Estimate
be r e d u c e d ; b y
apprcxi­
£191,000.
-
(3)
PUBLIC HEALTH GRANTS. ' .
The p o s i t i o n
is
head/summarised
in the
Expend!ture
1920-1.
as r e g a r d s
table
e x p e n d i t u r e under
this
hereunder:­
Oedd.es
Recorranendation.
Estimates
1922-23.
^
Sketch
Estimates
1923-24.
£7
e r n i t y and
Slid W e l f a r e
65,000
120,000
120,000
116,000
Brculosls
Maintenance)
200,000
269,, 000
269,000
260,000
46,000
65,000
35,000
75,000
12,000
14,000
14,000
14,000
Nil.
7,000
7,000
468,000
475,000
$real
iseases
i
fere o f
iLnd
the
Sanitation
PTAL.
323,000
472,000.
The S c o t t i s h B o a r d o f
generally- s i m i l a r
to
of
the
Health against
reduction
in these
those
H e a l t h advance
g i v e n by the E n g l i s h
Sub-Committee's
grants
by 15"
of
the
in their
applies
the
Ministry
report
on t h a t
equally to
Ministry
of
sum, £ 1 4 4 , 0 0 0 ,
in respect
Diseases
of
beyond t h a t
For t h i s
the
of
a
over a period
of
years.
for
the
in
however,
Maternity
the
their
for
Scottish
inserted in
the
in the
themselves
who r e s e r v e d
Sketch Estimates
indicated
Unlike
a. c o n s i d e r a b l e
and
developments
and
for
any
the
expenditure
close
s c r u t i n y which
on t h e s e
services,
recommend any r e d u c t i o n
apart
committed.
i n the
recent
on t h e
the
figure
of
g r a n t which t h e Board have
NATIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE.
Ministry
force here,
in
their
o f H e a l t h under t h i s heading
apply
A similar
over-estimate
y e a r s has b e e n made i n r e s p e c t
in Scotland,
Estimate
the
from a r e d u c t i o n
The r e m a r k s made b y t h e S u b - C o m m i t t e e
w i t h equal
Venereal
expendit\ire
already absolutely
Sanitation
the
proposed,
(4)
report
in
B o a r d o f H e a l t h h a v e made
Sketch E s t i m a t e s ,
Part
general
conclusion
and C h i l d W e l f a r e
r e a s o n and i n v i e w o f
do n o t
This
contingencies
t o which they are
Sub-Committee
the r e a s o n s
Department.
possible
B o a r d a r e making i n t o
£1,000
Health
reduction
S c o t t i s h Board o f H e a l t h .
Health,
Services,
no p r o v i s i o n
of
Ministry
proposal
The S u b - C o m m i t t e e h a v e n o t p r e s s e d t h i s
case
arguments
and t h e
in respect
be r e d u c e d b y n o t
Sub-Committee
of
less
sickness
of
sickness
suggest
claims
than £50,000.
during
that
claims
the
i n 1923/24
Sketch
should
(5)
SUBHEAD K ­ RELIEF OF DEPENDANTS OF
REPATRIATED RUSSIANS.
Provision
ing
items
t o Russia
Military
relative
for
I s made u n d e r
to
the
military
Service
dependants
service
Convention,
terms
of
the
who
returned
Anglo-Russian
1917:­
Repayment i n f u l l o f e x p e n d i t u r e b y P a r i s h
Councils according t o the Treasury scale i n
m a i n t a i n i n g d e s t i t u t e women and c h i l d r e n o f
"Russian" n a t i o n a l i t i e s o t h e r than L i t h u a n i a n .
P a r t i a l repayment of the e x p e n d i t u r e o f c e r t a i n
Parish Councils in maintaining d e s t i t u t e
L i t h u a n i a n women and c h i l d r e n who h a v e d e c l i n e d
the o f f e r o f r e p a t r i a t i o n .
got r i d
lump sum p a y m e n t ,
matter
of
and t h e y
(£3,200)
this
of
current
this
year's
for
Committee
the
as
of
regards
considered
with the
Board of
3.
compared ? : i t h
the
table
The
the
savings
Board's
belov-j.
for
this
In t h i s
s h o u l d be f u r t h e r
Scottish
the
case
the
out o f
suggest
that
savings
remaining
sum a l r e a d y
proposal,
by t h e
sr d
suggest
Service.
precise
Scotland.
f
the
the
of
the
the Government s
be f o u n d
Estimates,
cost
generally
question
in
of
by a
Board t h a t
Thev f u r t h e r
provision
year's
the annual
concur
head.
Vote,
4
with
Ministry
liability
the
would l i q u i d a t e
lump sum s h o u l d
b e i n g made i n n e x t
therein
dealt
to
the
Sub-Committee' s proposal
a lump sum o f £ 7 , 2 0 0
under
that
corresponding
suggested
s h o u l d be s i m i l a r l y
liabilities
understand
their
The B o a r d c o n c u r i n t h e
in
Russians
follow­
(b)
Health have
that
of
the
C o s t o f r e p a t r i a t i o n o f a few L i t h u a n i a n
women and c h i l d r e n whose d e p a r t u r e has b e e n
delayed for various reasons.
The S u b - C o m m i t t e e
the
in
Subhead f o r
(a)
...... ( c )
that
this
The
but
Treasury
in
on
£4,000
included
Sub-
they
sum t o be
part
set
think
aside
consultation
Health.
suggested
original
by t h e
Estimate
Sub-Committee
are
summarised
as
E s t i m a t e s as
r e v i s e d by SubCommittee.
Sketch
Estimates
Ordinary
Services.
1923*4.
Increase.
£.
185,000
£i
Administration
188,020
Housing
Health
Grants
Capital grants
Sanatoria
Health
1,044,670
1,235,670
to
46,0CO
46,000
796,000
746,000
15,000
15,000
4,000
4,000
2,799,240
2,554,220
64,072
64,072
2,735,168
2,490,148
Insurance
Services arising
o f the War.
out
Subsidy t o P r i v a t e
Builders
Other s p e c i a l
Appropriations
Aid
513,550
514,550
services
in
The S k e t c h E s t i m a t e s u b m i t t e d b y t h e D e p a r t m e n t
showed a n e t i n c r e a s e o f —**
&L,-022, 746
b u t t h e Sub C o m m i t t e e recommend r e d u c t i o n s o f 245,020
making a n e t i n c r e a s e ,
1922/23, o f - -
)
by c o m p a r i s o n
-
J . B . BESS SPORE,
Secretary.
(Sgd)
(
£££-October.
1922.
"
)
PEEL.
L.S.
AMERY.
with
£777,726.
s"document
xs the property of his beitImxp MAJESTY S &0^MEJSl!O
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COMMITTEE OH NATIOMAL
I III
LORD PEEB S
SIB-COMMITTEE
T
' "
EXFBJDTJ"ORE
REPORT
PART I I I ,
BOARD OF CONTROL.
CLASS I I .
1913/14 A u d i t e d E x p e n d i t u r e
1921/22 E s t i m a t e s
(nfcfc)
1922/23 E s t i m a t e s
(net)
1923/24 S k e t c h E s t i m a t e s
1.
oocpare
. ,
(net)
The S k e t c h E s t i m a t e s
with
the E s t i m a t e s
.
EN GLAND
24.
.
.
.
.
..
. £
21,464
.
. * £511,564
- .
.
.
.
. . . £521,730
.
.
f o r t h e Doard
f o r the current
£529,075
of O c n t r o l
financial
f o r 1923/24
y e a r aa
follows
Vot* f o r
1922/23
.
£
Forecast
1923/24
£
A, S a l a r i e s a n d Wages
35,800
Travelling
3,250
G. I n c i d e n t a l E x p e n s e s
200
D. C o n t r i b u t i o n s t o w a r d s
expenses of L o c a l
Authorities
451,000
E s t a b l i s h m e n t and M a i n ­
tenance of State
. Institutions.
! , ! . Pay and a l l o w a n c e s
17,800
'1.2. M a i n t e n a n c e o f
12,620
P a t i e n t s and S t a f f
! . 3 . T r a v e l l i n g end Oonyeyance o f " P a t i e n t o
650
'1,4.
Farm aftfi. G a r d e n
10
P.
Contributions t o
Societies
7,700
Gross
Total
Deduct : G. A p p r o p r i a t i o n s
Aid
Net
in
Total
Incre ase
£
362
36,162
- - 3,250
130
M
70
-
458,000
18,930
Decrease
£
7,000
1,130
f
100
12,720
650
10
­
M
6,700
1,000
^529 , 0 3 0
536,552
1,070
7,300
7,477
177
£521,730
529,075
1,247
Net
Decrease
£7,345
8,592
8,592
2.
It
will
estimate
be
that
£451,000 of t h e
o f £529,000 r e p r e s e n t s
authorities
expenditure
Sub-Committee
Board
observed
of
ere
C o n t r o l have
contributions
in r e g a r d to mental
g l a d to l e a r n
been a b l e
tstal
to
local
defectives.
t h a t by b a r e f u l
t o effect
gress
The
enquiry
considerable
the
reduo­
t
tions
in t h i s expenditure
in the
current
mental
defectives
estimates.
year
is
anticipated
under
After
and t h a t a f u r t h e r
cwing
t o t h e numbers
treatment proving
a careful
review
substantial
t o be b e l o w
of a l l
the
circumstances
their
butiotiH t o l o c a l
authorities
for
1923/24 f r o m £ 4 5 1 , 0 0 0
The sub-Commit t e e
are
hopeful
estimate
for
tc
reduce t h i s
to
count
3.
figure
somewhat f u r t h e r ,
on any f u r t h e r
They do n o t
subheads, but
-sideration
r e d u c t i o n .at
the r e o r g a n i s a t i o n
of
occupational
far
more
shorld therefore
4. ,
The n e t
The
and t h e
expensive
be
to
tho
possible
would be
unwise
at present
the s t a f f
now u n d e r
gcohdmies.
in. r e s p e c t
of
institutional
on
the
The
other
oon­
increase
establishment
t o reduce
the
need
a c c o m m o d a t i o n and
approved.
sketch estimate
Is therefore
submitted by
reduced t o
the Department
of
S u b - G c m m i t t e e reeemmsnd f u r t h e r
making a t o t a l r e d u c t i o n ^ ,
(Signed)
but i t
c e n t r e s which should tend
ok£tc:& E s t i m a t e
a reduction
i t may b e
eontri­
present,
should l e a d to a p p r e c i a b l e
£ 1 , 0 0 0 under s u b h e a d F i s
the
of
of
t h a t b e f ere
rfecommend a n y r e d u c t i o n s
of
for
Eketon- e s t i m a t e
1 9 2 3 / 2 4 come t o b e p r e p a r e d
of
the
the Beard are a b l e t o reduce
£41C.C0C:.
saving
b y Comparison
savings
of
w i t h 1922/23
^of
£480,730
showed
£
7..3451 ,
41j000
"
£48,345
J . B . - BBBS3P0M3,
(Signed)
Secretary.
''
3rd October,
1922.
PEBL
'
"
L . '3 * ''AMBRY ,
f
^rS-DOCUMEHP I S p I E PROPERTY OP HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY'S
GWERNIfENT-).
0 & -B I N E T .
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COSgffiilffEE
6.
ON NATIONAL EXPENDITURE.
LORD PEEL'S
iPART I V ) .
SUB-COMMITTEE.
REPORT
if ART
-V .
GENERAL BOARD OP CONTROL - SCOTLAND.
Class
1913/14
Audited
1921/22
Estimates
1922/23
Estimates
1923/24
Sketch
1.
for
11.39.
Expenditure
...
£S ^139
......
£96,472
...
£67,793
Estimates
The S k e t c h E s t i m a t e s
Scotland
for
the General Board o f
compare w i t h t h e E s t i m a t e s
for
the
Ccarte'oI
current
f i n a n e I a 1 y e a r a s f o i l ows : Subhead
Provisional
Estimate
1925-24.
Estimate
1922-23
Increase
Decrease,
£
I, S a l a r i e s
I'
B. T r a v e l l i n g
pens e s .
]. I n c i d e n t a l
penses.
11,453
Ex­
3,000
12,10.^'
3,000
Ex­
D. C o n t r i b u t i o n s
towards Expenses
of L o c a l A u t h o r i ­
ties.
90
85
;
53,000
81,440
500
300
E. C o n t r i b u t i o n s
towards Expenses
of S o c i e t i e s a s ­
sisting Defec­
tives.
p
.
Grant i n a i d of
Scientific Inves­
t i g a t i o n and
Research.
GROSS TOTAL
300
60 343
;
28,440
200
300
97,022
505
29.18-4
t.
1
Gross
Forwd . T o t a 1
68,343
97,022
550
550
67,793
96,472
Appropriations
in A i d .
Net t o t a l
2,
The b u l k o f
fact
that
of
grant
this
payment.
and i t
institution
will
in
experience
total
attributable
the c u r r e n t
year
is
not a t
a large
present
we
to
the
contain
arrears
new
institution
c l e a r whether
this
1923-4,
some r e d u c t i o n t o b e made
do n o t recommend I t
-vacancy f o r
a Depots
o p i n i o n remain u n f i l l e d ,
the
proposed under Sub­
occupied throughout
may e n a b l e
of £53,000 but
of
£-28,679.
on a c h a n g e i n
the grants
in, r e s i e c t
be f u l l y
The e x i s t i n g
our
Is
£5,000 of
1923-4 i s
(Kirklands)
3,
for
29,184
N e t DECREASE
amounting t o £22,274 c o n s e q u e n t
head D f o r
the
decrease
the e s t i m a t e s
method of
Later
505
at
present.
Commissioner
thus e f f e c t i n g
on
should
a saving
of
£700.
4.
The g r a n t
(£300)
for
in aid
was r e m o v e d
of
scientific
from t h e s e
estimates
research i n t o mental d e f i c i e n c y
Medical Research Council
again
Investigation
when t h e
and
research
responsibility
was r e m o v e d t o
the
and we do n o t recommend t h a t
It
inserted,
We a c c o r d i n g l y
recommend t h a t
the
provision for
this
"Vote s h o u l d be £ 6 6 , 7 9 3 .
The S k e t c h E s t i m a t e s u b m i t t e d b y t h e
Department showed a r e d u c t i o n o f
and we recommend f u r t h e r
savings
Making a t o t a l r e d u c t i o n ,
w i t h 1922/23, of
(Signed)
"
J.B.
BERESPORD, '
Secretary.
October
3rd
1922.
by
of
£
28,679
1,000
comparison
29,679
PEEL,
L.S.
AMERY,
be
I h I S DOCUKEIHT IS "T30! PROP7.21TY OF HIS ' B R I T A I N 0 MAJESTY 3 WTORHHZKT)
1
SEC
L
R
E TV
(C*S.)
7.,
C A B I
IT E
T.
'COMMITTEE OH HATIOHAL EXFEHDITURE i
i
MR-- HILTOH YOUHG*S
SUB-COMMITTEE
REPORT.OH
PUBLIC WORKS AKD BUILDIHGS VOTES.
OFFICE OF WORKS SERVICES.
1.
-
The c o m p a r i s o n w i t h p r e v i o u s y e a r s
is
as
follows:­
&t
Thus,
1913-14
Ordinary
1921-22
Estimate
9,326,750
1922-23
Estimate
6,100,000
1923-24
Sketch E s t i m a t e
5,536,517
after
a decrease
t h e Works V o t e s
year.
Of
decline
this
in
will
of
expenditure
over
decrease £326,600
borne
b u d g e t and £ 2 3 6 . 8 8 3 o n l y h e l p s
ordinary
is
of
in
on t h e
this
£563,483
respect
year,
next
of
a
extraordinary
the reduction
in
the
budget.
The S k e t c h E s t i m a t e s
Treasury
three millions
show a d e c r e a s e
the expenditure
-2,106,929
are:­
for
1923-24
submitted
to
the
19,22/23
1983/24
Increase,
120,40C
118,630
-
17,650
18,500
850
loyal P a r k s
218,800
200,045
-
18,755
buses o f P a r l i a m e n t
liscellanaous L e g a l
Buildings
115,250
86,060
-
29,190
88,000
81,500
-
6,500
Art and S c i e n c e
Buildings
374,800
415,750
40,950
Diplomatic
Consular
115,800
273,145
157,345
1,534,480
1449,120
-
85,360
805,350
641,855
-
163,495
2 , 5 5 4 , 9 5 0 aj.60,292
-
394,658
lioyal P a l a c e s
Decrease
1,770
1
ftsborne
and
Buildings
Revenue B u i l d i n g s
labour and H e a l t h
I Buildings
fablic
Buildings
I
Bouse B u i l d i n g
100,000
50,000
-
50,000
Housing scheme
52,020
24,620
-
27,400
fitchener, h o b e r t s
lad C h a m b e r l a i n
-
Ijemorials
2,500
sar k e m o r i a l s
1922/23
Collecting
17,000
-
-
£ 6 , 1 0 0 , 0 0 0 5,536,517
the
similar
If Hew w o r k s , M a i n t e n a n c e ,
17,000
316,145*"
i t e m s irom each
etc,
the
3,500
result
Vote under the
is
1923/24
( e x c l u s i v e o f Housing
Schemes)
Maintenance
1,155,533
1,854,330
1,278,995
1,585,975
Rentals
1,149,205
979,955
972,670
896,955
furniture
349,325
324,175
M i s c e l l a n e o u s and u n c l a s s i f i e d
618,937
470,462
6,100,000
5,536,517
Puel,
I
heads
­
1922/83
Hew Works
779,628
Light
and Vvater
2.
In
the o r d i n a r y
by t h e
which
Financial
course
Secretary
time the p r o p o s a l s
in
the f o r t h c o m i n g
financial
o f Works a r e a b l e
year
for
detail,
to
the d i f f e r e n t
the probable
year
give
sketch
formed
is
examined
i n January,
by
Departments
have
trend of p r i c e s
c a n be f o r c a s t ,
in
and t h e
s t a t e how w o r k h a s p r o g r e s s e d
this
Sir Lionel Earle
and h a s
the Treasury
be r e q u i r e d
i n S e p t e m b e r h a s none o f
and c a n a c c o r d i n g l y
to
votes
in
Office
the
i n the
next
expenditure.
An e x a m i n a t i o n
examined the
group o f
and w h a t p r o v i s i o n w i l l
remanet
Subject
to
of
been c o n s i d e r e d
current year
this
only
approximate
reservation,
estimates
Of
officers
opinion that
the
advantages
results.
sub-committee
as c l o s e l y
and t h e o t h e r
the
your
these
has
as p r a c t i c a b l e
of
the
sketch
with
Department
estimate
£5,536,517
can s a f e l y be
r e d u c e d by
300,000
to
This
£5,236,517
r e d u c t i o n has been e f f e c t e d
(i)
The P o s t
Office
as
follows:­
b u i l d i n : : programme
for
Hew Works
has been reduced
f r o m £ 5 3 7 , 0 0 0 t o £ 4 0 0 , 0 0 0 a s a maximum w h i c h
latter
a c c e p t e d by t h a t D e p a r t m e n t ,
Works
figure
subhead f o r
by £ 1 0 , 0 0 0 i n
from o t h e r
Art
Works y o u r
postpone, the
of
the
;
for
of
of
Museum f i t t i n g s
the
representations
feels
of
that
contemplated rebuilding
in
reduced
w h i c h c a n b e met
Vote.
sub-committee
£ 5 0 0 0 0 vans i n s e r t e d
and t h e New
and S c i e n c e B u i l d i n g s h a s b e e n
respect
subheads
In view
of
is
the
sketch
of
the F i r s t
it
is
necessary
the Mint
estimate
Commissioner
for
as t h e
to
which
provision
1923/24.
(ii)
in respect
The s k e t c h e s t i m a t e
of
a purchase
of
included a revote
for
l a n d a t £1thorn w h i c h i t
... 3 ­
£44,000
is
now
found/
found w i l l
"be c o m p l e t e d t h i s y e a r ,
on t h e H o u s e B u i l d i n g V o t e
sketch estimate
(iii).
£23,300
w h i c h £ 5 0 , 0 0 0 was t a k e n
the p r o v i s i o n
the p r o v i s i o n
Removals
The a b o v e
savings
by
for pensions Hospitals
on t h e V o t e
been reduced
£2,000):
on
the
to
for
£4,800.
total
t o £321,600
h a v i n g b e e n e x p r e s s e d as t o t h e
provision
buildings
Vote
f o r maintenance
by
L e g a l B u i l d i n g s V o t e by £ 2 , 5 0 0 and t h a t
on L a b o u r B u i l d i n g s
in"the
sum.
for
L a b o u r and H e a l t h B u i l d i n g s
Miscellaneous
but
sufficiency
and t h e E n g i n e e r i n g
for Public
doubts
of
the
provision
maintenance
Buildings
this
figure
has
£300,000.
The p r o v i s i o n p r o p o s e d i n
under
provision
(Revenue B u i l d i n g s Vote £ 5 , 3 0 0 ; p u b l i c
and b y r e d u c i n g
3.
the
can be r e p l a c e d by a t o k e n
By r e d u c i n g
Vote £15,000;
fuel
for
while
c e r t a i n main heads
of
the Sketch
expenditure,
Estimates,
shows t h e
following
reduction^, v i z .
Maintenance
14$
Rentals
15f
Puel,
a
Light
and W a t e r
8%
Purni t u r e
1%
The b a s e s
on w h i c h t h e O f f i c e
estimates
under t h e s e heads have been examined but
sub-committee
properly
is
of
Works h a v e
opinion that
b e made f r o m t h e
additional
of
no f u r t h e r
figures
i n f o r m a t i o n which w i l l
may o r may n o t j u s t i f y
a further
at
be a v a i l a b l e
reduction
of
below pre-war
apart
further
economies
number o f
i n the
lifts).
and,
from the f a l l
can o n l y be
in
etc.,
agreed
a r e much
in prices
the
the
January
and
( o r by a d e l i b e r a t e
accommodation e . g .
can
time;
s e c u r e d by a r e d u c t i o n
Government e m p l o y e e s ,
standard of
your
then.
V. orks and t h e T r e a s u r y ,
f
their
reduction
the present
The s t a n d a r d s o f m a i n t e n a n c e , c h e a t i n g
between the O f f i c e
framed
abolition
costs,
in
the
change
of
4.
The a r e a
time
is confined
of possible
to
further
t h e New
'.orks subheads.
£1,155., 523 i n 1922/23 w h i l e ,
above,
the
The
at
total
latter
Bangkok,
for
of
Includes
This p a r t i c u l a r
-Exchequer a n y t h i n g
sale
the
Excluding
farther
in
the
to
the
savings
Departments,
on t h e
of
-building
in
it
recommended
legation
cost
the
are
this
the p r o v i s i o n
largest
for
New
schemse n o t
items
­
£48,600
Factory
£25,700
to which your
the a c t i v i t i e s
be p o s s i b l e
Votes in
on
15$.
on S e v e r a l
the
the
year.
Labour
factories
will
by
however f a l l s
which
Chart
extent
may reoommend r e d u c t i o n s
Government
item,
sketch estimates
M i n i s t r y of
Training
g^nerally^
not
£1*79,538 o r O v e r
Treasury,
a
present
totalled
sum has been r e a l i s e d
may be p o s s i b l e
admiralty
and,
£1,081,995.
The e x p e n s e
of
reductions
e x a m i n e d by t h e
included
be
£106,000 f o r
exceptional
Works shows a r e d u c t i o n
the
These
redaction
t h e money was r e c e i v e d
this
at
the
scheme w i l l
as a l a r g e r
old legation.
1923/24 a l t h o u g h
yet
with
1923/24 S i l l
figure
retrenchment
other
oi
suc-committees
particular
to e f f e c t
further
January.
The o k e t c h E s t i m a t e , a s s u b m i t t e d , showed
a r e d u c t i o n on t h e e s t i m a t e f o r 1 9 2 2 - 2 3 o f
and t h e f u r t h e r r e d u c t i o n s recommended i n
t h i s r e p o r t amount t o
making a t o t a l r e d u c t i o n i n 1 9 2 3 / 2 4 , by
comparison w i t h the o r i g i n a l e s t i m a t e s
f o r 1922/23, of
£
563,483
300,000
£863,483
R a t e s on Gove r n m e n t . I r o p e r t y .
The e x p e n d i t u r e
in recent
years
on t h i s
Vote has been
­
1913-14
Estimate
Sketch Estimate
£821,479
1920-1
£2,326,122
1921-2
£2,366,611
1922-3
£2,006,443
1925-4
£1,745,100
The r e d u c t i o n shown i n t h e Sketch. Estimate i s
£261.345 o r a f a l l
of 13^.
Of t h i s
therefore
decrease £20,000
is
in
respect of e x p e n d i t u r e b o r n e on t h e e x t r a o r d i n a r y b u d g e t and
£241,348 on the o r d i n a r y
budget.
The possibilities o f r e d u c t i o n on t h i s Estimate a r e
entirely
rates
dependent upon
(l)
a reduction
l e v i e d by local a u t h o . i t i e s ,
accommodation o c c u p i e d f o r
llo f u r t h e r
decrease
p r o v i s i o n necessary
the f u l l e r
Estimates
of
and ( 2 )
the p u b l i c
t h e poundage
of
the surrender
of
service.
c a n b e made a t present.
can o n l y
be determined
i n f o r m a t i o n which w i l l
on the b a s i s
be a v a i l a b l e
a r e be in.:.: p r e p a r e d .
(S."d. *.
;?nd October, 1921
The p r e c i s e
I . HILTOK YOUNG-.
when t h e
of
final
%1IS DOCUMENT I S THE PROPERTY OP HIS BRITAINIG l i * J B S T Y S . GOvEPJiKt^OUi.
l
(G.S,)
OA
8.
B I I E 5.
OOMvilTTEE OH M l O M
EXPENDITURE.
THE QHAHOELDOR OP THE BACBBtyUER'S
REPORT OH AGRICULTUREETC.
PART
Ministry
1913/14 -
SUB^OO^ITTEBy
ESTIMATES.
I.
of
agriculture.
Het A u d i t e d e x p e n d i t u r e
1921/22 - Het - u s t i m a t e
£2*4,312.
...
£3,211,615,
...
1922/23 - B e t E s t i m a t e recommended
By Geddes C o m m i t t e e . . .
£1,765,000...
1922/23 - A o t u a l n e t E s t i m a t e
£1,834,804.
1923/24 1*
Sketch
Estimate...
We u n d e r s t a n d t h a t
in the
tions
^stinate
for
the
£1,834,159.
savings e f f e c t e d
19^2/23 o o n s i s t e d verj?
in non-recurrent
difficulties
...
expenditure.
in suggesting
further
ihis
by t h e
largely
Department
of
increases
economies at
redua­
our
the
present
moment,
2.
Agricultural. Education
Our a t t e n t i o n
Treasury
on t h e
and t h e
pledge
Production
preclude
for
expenditure
It
^ae c a l l e d
kinistry
given
Aots.
The c l a i m
all
the
receive
for
(ii)
that
between
interpretation
repeal
put f o r w a r d
by t h e
possibility
of
to
of
the
be
placed
the
Corn
Ministry
reduction
would
in
the
services.
assumes a t r i p l e
five
a discussion
in c o n n e c t i o n w i t h t h e
on t h e s e
that
to
as t o t h e
the p r e s e n t
(i)
and R e s e a r c h .
form,
agricultural
a sum o f
years
Great
in
continue
viz:­
industry
i n England
should
£850,000 spread o v e r a term
as i t s
share
in t h e
£1,000,00-
of
promised
Britain,
addition,
at
the
normal e x p e n d i t u r e
rate
prevailing
should
when t h e A c t
passed.
(iii)
that
was
that a f t e r
(ill)
peridd
(say,
the expiration
i n 1927,
roughly,
- voted, f o r
the
of
£135,000 p e r
cohtinuahce
these' t h r e e
-were, p r o m i s e d ' n o t
.
lump - sum: t o . be s p e n t
.
.
.
down an a b s a l u t e
be made . f o r
the
broadly
will:not
sum' o f
the
£850,000
(which
in
it
hoi
in
"The
annuity
rule
of
and w h i l e
dispute.
agricultural
but a
special
desire
1937j;they
to
cases,
set
should
a sufficient
While
set
we t h i n k
apart
has a l r e a d y
to
not
must
that
up a s e r v i c e
endowment
:
we do
seme a l l o w a n c e
particular
should'be' noted
the Sxchec;uer)
be
i
Ministry
have t e r m i n a t e d
i s s u e d from
for
if
expenditure
the ..swoial...s^rvlce^.
in- r e j o e t i n g .
.
circumstances
speaking
of
o v e r - a s h o r t ' term: p e r i o d .
wish'to'lay
year's
annum) s h o u l d
prOp-OBiti-*hs' i s
a permanent
.
five
( i )i
The- . t h l r d -vie..have - n b h e B i t a t I o n
-industry
the
a eohsiderahle-ajanual
. i n l t fated-under
The. f i r s t
of
which
from
the
been
provide
it.
^vith r e g a r d
to
the
The i n t e n t i o n - a p p e a r s t *
should
receive
actually
a sun Of
receiving
otherwise
have
at
Second p r o p o s i t i o n ,
we f e e l
have been t h a t
agricultural
£850,000 n o t
the time,
received-.
normal e x p e n d i t u r e
at
It
is
s t o o d at
a high l e v e l
that the
Ministry
of
of
reductions
Departments
of
State-.
our agr?ement
and do n " t
think
reasonable
reductions
appreciate
the
effect
justify
that
they
by t h e
practical
and we t h i n k
raising
assured us would
was t o
that
Treasury
should
be
there i s
trouble
be
caused.
b e i n g made
we h a v e
of
was
would
that
^otS
the
were
to
contend
from
in a l l
felt
other
involved
from asking
carrying
we
this
Minister
of
f%r
fully
view
n o t e n o u g h money i n v o l v e d
which the
the
bound t o
on t h e p r i n c i p l e
debarred
Industry
it
be s a f e g u a r d e d
Government's p l e d g e ,
difficulties
the
observe
seey.ns d i f f i c u l t
v s h i l e , hi-rwevsr,
the
what
Corn P r o d u c t i o n
such a s w e r e
with
to
doubt.
of w h a t . i t
i n excets-s o f
and i t
agriculture
possibility
in excess
relevant
t h e -time -the
repealed
record
but
the
more
into
to
Agriculture
3*
Vve w i s h t o p l a c e
on r e c o r d
our v i e w
of developinents which a r e o f d i r e c t
a g r i c u l t u r a l ' i n dust fyV
Recording
that
ochemos,
every
effort
which - w i l l e n a b l e
"ve h a v e
which State
notice
should be k e p t
should
a l s o come
launched;
across
after
and t h a t
the i n i t i a l
steps
financed
be o b s e r v e d
that
Institutes
4.
Land
It
M d
o f these
be remembered t h a t
will
that
Assistance
cannot
self­
indicating
on schemes
f o r t h e development
grants
of
It
should
a r e made d i r e c t
to the
on t h e E s t i m a t e .
should
that
P
be r e d u c e d t o
f o r some t i m e ,
t h e County C o u n c i l
building
programmes and i n s i s t i n g
expensive
review
i s that
Local authorities
the t o t a l
l a n d has been
last,
that
shall
of the
the limit
£17,000,000.
the Ministry
properties
be s o l d .
of the s o - c a l l e d
i s approximately
£ 1 5 , 4 0 0 , 0 0 0 I n November
that
Schemes o f e q u i p m e n t ,
to develop
sum a p p r o v e d
*s the result
i t i .-as d e c i d e d
revising
properties
capital
t h e Land S e t t lemon t, - A c t s
was £20, OoO, 0 0 0 ,
expenditure
Vve a r e i n f o r m e d
of
expenditure
the t o t a l
t o be e x p e n d e d u n d e r
o f t h e Ueddes C o m m i t t e e ,
capital
this
State
of agriculture
and do n o t a p p e a r
i n E n g l a n d and W a l e s ,
of
desirable
Settlement
by P a r l i a m e n t
report
when s c h e m e s
as Appendix A t o o u r R e p o r t ,
certain
concerned
it
in
p e r i o d has passed,
f r o m t h e '^development
i s attached
Associations
t h e s c h e m e s must become
c a n be t a x e n t o r e d u c e
agriculture
l i m i t s and
Into being
at the tine
that
A memorandum by t h e M i n i s t r y
what
to the
number o f c a s e s
:
indefinitely
supporting
moderate
but i n w h i c h we t h i n k
i n due t i m e
benefit
itself.
a certain
was l u s t i f i e d
s h o u l d be g i v e n
continue
within
to help
in aid
B o a r and l - I l k
b e made t o b r i n g
the Industry
grants
financial
e , g * tho Bull'arid
assistance
were b e i n g
that
has' been
cutting
or parts
of
The e f f e c t
of
"commitments" of
£ 1 5 , 3 0 0 , 0 0 0 compared
though i n t h e meantime
acquired/and p r o v i s i o n
down
with
additional
made f o r t h e s e t t l e m e n t
more men.
During
During t h e p r o g r e s s
a plodge
to the
themselves
without
to
Treasury
spending
re-submitting
it
the t i m e .
V;e e n t i r e l y
s h o u l d be
5,
We a r e
presented,
the
our "disetissixxn.
that
they
a capital
the
discussing
it
in
of
would not
of
to
the
of
of
and
as t h e y
t h i s course
and
commit
£16,000,000
Treasury
circumstances
approve
spend o r
sum i n e x c e s s
questions
light
the-JiinXstTy--gaYe
exist
at
recommend
adopted.
informed
that
two f u r t h e r
sihoe
the
c u t s have
Sketch E s t i m a t e s
been found t o
be
wore
practicable,
viz
Capital
expenditure
settlement
on
farm
J . l . ) . . . . . ,
(Subhead
£6,000.
Eecoupment o f l o s s e s and payment o f
compensation in r e s p e c t , p t - .
a l l o t m e n t s (Subhead J . 2 . ) , r e d u o ­
t i o n from £48,000 t o £28,000 . . . .
TOTAL
6,
Horse
Breeding ^ c t .
The e s t i m a t e d
Act
i n 1923/24,
The
including
We t h i n k t h a t
legislation
tion
of
should
stallions
on t h e
Headquarter
receipts
The e s t i m a t e d
£26,000.
1918.
expenditure
estimated
....
£20,000,
deficit
administration
expenses,
from f e e s
is
is
are
therefore
a s recommended by t h e
Geddes
be o b t a i n e d t o e n a b l e
the f e e s
t o be i n c r e a s e d
of
-
this
-
£11,300
£ 4. 300
'
-
£
7,000
Committee,
for
so a s t o make t h i s
registra­
service
self-suppo rt ing.
7.
Fisheries.
The g r o s s
the
oketoh Estimate
1923/24.
A further
the Ministry
the
expenditure
on t h e
from
on f i s h e r i e s
£85,302 in
reduction
schemes
D e v e l o p m e n t -aund,
of
s e r v i c e s was r e d u c e d
1922/23 t o
£400 h a s s i n c e
of " d i r e c t e d "
reducing
£78,585
for
been o f f e r e d
research financed
the g r o s s "expenditure
in
to
by
from
£78,185,
but
but t h i s
Vote.
saving w i l l
Other
Fishery
aocrue t o the-Fund and.not
savings
t o the net
on d e v e l o p m e n t -mind e x p e n d i t u r e &n
schemes a r e i n d i c a t e d
i n a :heport
by the M i n i s t r y
A g r i c u l t u r e -(Appendix B ) but t h e bulk of t h e r e d u c t i o n s
i t e m s w h i c h d o n o t a p p e a r oh t h e E s t i m a t e
p a i d d i r e c t :.to t h e I n s t i t u t i o n s
generally
were
severely
curtailed
on t h e a d m i n i s t r a t i v e
any s a v i n g
we recommend no f u r t h e r
Adminlstrative
8*
ooncerued
Considerable
last
reduction
outs in S t a f f
staff
of
from
(see next
paragraph)
of
the ministry,
and o f t h e n e c e s s i t y
expenditure
recently
oan be no c h a n g e
further
We c o n s i d e r . ,
o f the pledge
for
given
with
keeping
w i t h i n the narrowest p o s s i b l e
£ 1 0 , 0 0 0 s h o u l d be e f f e c t e d
i n t h e main,
and a p a r t
be e f f e c t e d .
in particular
regard to land settlement
a saving
services
explained there
cannot e a s i l y
in view
administrative
Fisheries
h a v e b e e n made q u i t e
a s r e g a r d s t h e main s e r v i c e s
that
being
oervioeso
in policy
however,
year
a r e on
i n 1923/24.
in the circumstances
of
c
services
and s i n o s
reductions
the grants
of
on t h e t e m p o r a r y
staff
limits,
On a d m i n i s t r a t i o n
e m p l o y e d on l a n d
­
settlement
work.
9,
A further
Subhead " F "
10
o
saving
of
£E 50O I s
To r e c a p i t u l a t e
by t h e M i n i s t r y
land settlement
on C a p i t a l
t o be p r o v i d e d
the f o l l o w i n g
on r e c o r d
w h i c h s h o u l d p r o d u c e economy
A c c o u n t nexfc y e a r
and t h e
I n s u b s e q u e n t y e a r s ) w? h a v e
savings
future,
with
t h e amount o f
e
certain
In the
g i v e n by t h e M i n i s t r y
(which should reduce
on
Committees),
In addition, t o placing
and t o e n d o r s i n g t h e p l e d g e
t o be f o u n d
offered
( G r a n t s t o County A g r i c u l t u r a l
guiding p r i n c i p l e s
to
r
regard
money
annuities
recommended
s h o u l d be m a d e ; Capital
that
Capital
expenditure
on Earm
(Subhead J . l . ) . . .
Recoupment o f l o s s e s
Horse
Breeding Act
Grants t o
ete.
settlement
£6,000.
on a l l o t m e n t s . £ 2 0 , OOO.
...
£
County C o m m i t t e e s
Administration
7,000.
£ 2,500.
...
£10,000
£45,500
of £400 i s
A saving
Research financed
net
The
the
Yote
expenditure
same t i m e
from the
r e d u c e d by
making a t o t a l
on " d i r e c t e d "
Development Fund.
from
,
be r e d u c e d t o
the Development
Fishing
£1,788,659,
iund being
at
the
£400.
shown on t h e
specific
recommended
should a c c o r d i n g l y
recouped
The s a v i n g
and t h e
also
sketch Estimate
was
£
645
-
£45,500
-
£46,145
s a v i n g s we h a v e
reduction,
recommended
amount t o
by c o m p a r i s o n w i t h
1922/23 o f
-
APPEKDIX A .
REPORT B Y MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE JDK AGEICUITUR2LL
SOHE&BS O L T S S I F I W S Y ^ H J S " B ! V 1 I O B £ S ; N F ' C O M I S S I O 1 1 R S A S
tinae
if
Under Head. " B " . " S c h e m e s w h i c h i t i s
money can be f o u n d " a r e c l a s s i f i e d
the national
work
Institute
in a g r i c u l t u r a l
The M i n i s t r y
vital
B i f f eh,
seed
its
regards
supplies
a new v a r i e t y
the
Official
has b e e n l e n t
the
Institute
Institute
and
one o f
will
Seed
special
in
agriculture
be,
to
the
farmer
which
the
of
the
the work
greatly
agricultural
of
labour
receiving
(high
for
his
that
provision w i l l
the
the above
classified
f o i l owing j ­
of
machinery
moment when t h e
The M i n i s t r y / h o p e s
both
of
hampered,
the improvement
and more t o
of
£13,000
closed.
present
is
(ex­
maintenance
mere
The schemes
are
If
the
with
£35,000
refused,
for
work i n
cost
e t c . , - and
commercial
turn the farmer
continuance
portant
avenues
the
and t h e h i g h
the
of'some
or a t l e a s t
pro/tanto,
at
are
Professor
oats
of
a3
essential
The I n s t i t u t e
Station)
years
be s t o p p e d
importance
the p r i c e s which
are l i k e l y
after
the
as
improvement work
initial
The e x p e r i m e n t a l
of
such
a cost
Testing
t h e most h o p e f u l
crops w i l l
experimental
schemes
is
of wheat,
farmer
at
these
Institute
has b e e n p r o v e d .
on t h e c r o p
during the
the
of
from t h e Eovelopment Fund..
grants necessary
British
first
The n a t i o n a l
f a r m has b e e n e s t a b l i s h e d
eluding
the
the
who p r o d u c e s new v a r i e t i e s
of
d e s i r a b l e to eon­
the maintenance of
B o t a n y and
between r e s e a r c h w o r k e r s ,
trade which
value
Agricultural
"c"
w
machinery.
and n e c e s s a r y .
intermediary
of
"B , &
is
depression
relative
to
produce)
machinery.
be made
for
schemes.
under
Head
,7
G " as l e s s
im­
( )
a
Electro-Culture Experiments'.
While the M i n i s t r y -deprecates., -the;...iramebla te
abandonment of this investigation it agrees that a definite,
limit o f time should be set:, and would be glad t o discuss
w i t h the Development Commissioners what should be that
limit. .
(b)
Demonstrations Iri -. Milk Production on arable land'
These small demonstrations have hardly yet had a
fair opportunity, and while the Ministry does not of course
regard them as equal in importance to the national
Institute of Agricultural Botany, it suggests that it
would be premature t o stop them immediately. , In this
case also it would be glad to discuss with the Develop­
ment Commissioners the question of fixing a time, limit .
a
(c)
The Lactose Factory Demonstration, has not really had a
season's trial yet. - It has been proved within the last
month that lactose of a commercial standard can be pro­
due ed from wheyj but the plant has not had a fair
seaaen's running and the Ministry is strongly of opinion
that it would be a great mistake to scop the experiments
before the end of the season of 1923*
It is, however
willing to agree that after the end of that season no
further subsidies from Government funds should be asked,
and that the factory should then either be sold or,, if it'
is continued,-continued without an annual subsidy
(d)
0
The £500 for Tobacco Experiments will not be spent this
year and the Ministry does not now propose to ask for
it next year.
The whole question of the method of giving
aid to the homegrown tobacco industry Is, however, now
being reconsidered,, and it Is possible that as a result
of such reconsideration proposals for help from the
Development Fund may be put forward, though on different
lines from the scheme for which the £300 now appearing
on the Estimates was intended.
A P P S g D I X
438
B.
REPORT BY MINISTRY OP AGRICULTURE ABB FISHERIES
FISHERY SCHEMES C h A S S I F I E B . BY T H E DEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONERS.
ASJI.BII
(B)
AND
^CV
MISCELIANEOUS RESEARCHES,
This
-understood
item does not
£500.
appear
from t h e Development
contingency
item in the event
on t h e M i n i s t r y ' s
Commissioners t h a t
o f a n y demand f o r
work c o m i n g f r o m t h e M i n i s t r y d u r i n g t h e
year.
T h e r e would b e no o b j e c t i o n
did n o t renew t h i s
SHELL-FISH
the purpose
to
the
since
it
to t a k e the f i g u r e
the cost
Estimates e
to
of
Staff
the S c i e n t i f i c
in respect
expenditure
- at
£5,700 g i v e n
the
figure
i n the
research
financial
Commissioners
of
it will
be
Staff
can b e f o u n d
sisn t h e r e a r e
estimated
Conway and a t
net
Development
£2,180, apart
this
must be s o t
purification
work -
charges,
(1922-3)
£1,400,
apart
in
the
receipts
in
Lympstone
expenditure
of
Against
more
£ 5 , 7 0 0 w h i c h d o e s not.
expenditure
shell-fish
especially
Estimates
provisional
- apart
from
Esti. ates
for
from t h e
estimated
leaving
from t h e
the
net
next
cost
of
receipts
estimated
Scientific
£780.
regards
and t h e amount d e v o t e d t o
paragraphs
substantial
mussel
of
the
£4,700 g i v e n by t h e
Ou
Staffc
for
years,
£3,500,.
The M i n i s t r y
for
a
includes r e c u r r i n g maintenance
leaving the
- at
o f mussel
of
o f muss&Tsr a t
£2,200,
show e s t i m a t e d
Staff
of
expenditure,
future
the S c i e n t i f i c
cleansing
Scientific
year
only
As against this
of
amounting
of
figure
of
The d e t a i l s
respect
a piece
the Development
the s h e l l - f i s h
of comparison with
ignore
Commissioners,
include
is
is
INVESTIGATIONS AHP MAINTENANCE OF CASTLE BANK.
convenient
and
it
It
item.
In considering
for
if
course
Vote.
-
is
small.
capital
it
as w i l l
Moreover,
sums h a v e
purification
-
the s h e l l - f i s h
just
it
be seen from
should
been
at Lympstone;
work a s
essential
the
foregoing
be n o t e d t h a t
spent
on b u i l d i n g
on t a n k s f o r
fairly
tanks
Oyster
/purification
1
purification,
and b r e e d i n g a t
on t h e m u s s e l
purification
last
Conway,
tanks
at
fcr
the
apart
future
the
the
at
C on way
oyster
purification
oftmpleted
interest
basis
will
is
(I)POKP
in the
ERIN
it
of
and
far
fish
up-to-date
work a n t i c i p a t e d
are
­
the maintenance­
of
the
is
on a
interest
Laboratory
attracted
commercial
The
the
Ministry
experiments
oysters.
important
and has r e c e n t l y
Although
Association
centre, for
research
would b e r a i s e d
saw f i t
the M i n i s t r y
b e i n g b y means o f
opinion
that
a grant
reorganised
dees
and
on t h e
repu­
West
if
the g r a n t t o
Coast
the
Port
that t h i s
from t h e
£700 i s
not
Manchester.
considers
a grant
of
it
by t h e M i n i s t r y
t o reduce
biological
been
in status
s t u d e n t s f r o m L i v e r p o o l and
£ 7 0 0 . . A-t t h e same t i m e ,
in
on g e n e r a l m a r i n e
equipment, e t c .
Commissioners
of
of
hatching,
in
No o b j e c t i o n
is
successful
engaged
-
be kept
have a l r e a d y
reaching importance.
Marine Biological
i s an
Development
if
the greatest
Institution
and t e n d s t o a t t r a c t
Fund, and
-
and
£1.000.
including
with the
should
Staff
experiments
to the p u r i f i c a t i o n
and.brought
tation,
trade,
watching with
This
rank
shell-fish
and b r e e d i n g t a n k s and
breeding
have r e s u l t s
with regard
research,
are solf-supporting
o
great
Health
tanks
of the Scientific
The o y s t e r
the
expenditure
Conway was o n l y
only charges f o r
from t h e c o s t
of
to
capital
year.
The mussel p u r i f i c a t i o n
of
while
439
K
Erin
station
Development
t h e minimum
for
purpose.
UN I YE iS') " T Y 00LI.EC3 OF
rfAIBS.
No o b j e c t i o n
e r s were t o withdraw
the
Wi th r e g a r d
that
their
bc .';h t h e s e
-
case to
are reduced
would
to
£.300.
be raised
grant
to
t h e Development
the U n i v e r s i t y
t h e two f o r e g o i n g
Institutions
should
the Development
or taken
if
have an
Ccmmisaioners
College
items,
it
opportunity
before
their
away.
"
1
0
" '
is
/(II)
Commission
of
Wales.
considered
of
stating
grants
m Hi)
DIRECTED RESEARCHES.
The M i n i s t r y would
of
the grant
from
be prepared
the Development
to
agree to
Fun-a f o r
directed
r e s e a r c h e s t o £700 w h i c h sUm -would,, when added
£300 a d v a n c e d b y t h e T r e a s u r y u n d e r t h i s
total
It
of
£1,000 f o r
this
is anticipated
allocated
as f o l l o w s
those
during
caffied
the
purpose.
that t h i s
Irish
to
h e a d , make a
amount w i l l
the f i n a n c i a l
Sea i n v e s t i g a t i o n s
be
year
£750 t o L i v e r p o o l U n i v e r s i t y
i n the
a reduction
lfdS3/24.
to carry
out
complimentary
cut by t h e M i n i s t r y
on t h e
to
East
Coast.
£250 t o v a r i o u s
the investigation
accredited
of eertain
Institutions
specific
WEST COEYIWAIL FISHERY LOAN COMMITTEE -
for
problems.
Administrative
Expenses,
The West C o r n w a l l F i s h e r y
administers a l o a n of
£6,000 i n a l l
Fund f o r
the i n s t a l l a t i o n
The l o a n
i s repayable
made a n n u a l l y
expenses.
Loan
of
motors
i n 1926.
Committee
from t h e
grant cannot
Development
in fishing
A grant
t o t h e Committee f o r t h e i r
This
£65.
v e r y w e l l be
of
vessels.
a b o u t £65
is
administrative
stopped.
B A R T
BCAKD .
OP
II,
AGRICULTURE,.
3Q0TLA.HD.
1913-14 A u d i t e d E x p e n d i t u r e
233,245
1921-22 E s t Betima-te
452.064
1922-23
Eat Bstircate
recomnandod
by Gacdes C o m m i t t e e
275 OO0
f
1922-23 Net Estimate
Per
1923-24 the Board s u b m i t t e d a s k o t a h e s t i m a t e
a portion of
of
their
expenditure
the Agriculture
d i d not
(sectland)
include i n the
than t h a t r e q u i r e d
It
assumed
have
appears
Toy t h e
been
Department,
required for
settlement'and
son i s
that
£57,000,
of
of
tho
on t h e b a s i s
a further
of
Bootland
dstails
prior
being
The s e r v i c e s
years
of
the A g r i c u l t u r e
of
out
informed
duo t o
included
undor t h i s
of
of
tho'
( S c o t l a n d ) ' Fund
£46.,000.
rvovolopmont,.
(Repeal)
(Appendix
head w e r e f i n a n c e d
Tote,
£ 1 5 0 , 0 0 0 was
in
p a r t l y from the
allocated
£1,000,000 provided f o r
A).
past
Agriculture
Fund.
to the
Board
Agricultural
Corn P r o d u c t i o n Acts
to
in
A c t was £ 1 4 3 , 5 0 %
(Repeal)
t h a t i n E n g l a n d on w h i c h
commented i n e u r R e p o r t on t h o M i n i s t r y
It
compari­
b a l a n c e s 'on tfio f u n d ,
1921 a s i t u a t i o n a r o s e s i m i l a r
2 ).
that
land
ino.lua.ing
in tho s t t c h e d statement
E d u c a t i o n and R e s e a r c h u n d e r t h e
(para.
£125,194*
pund and p a r t l y f r o m t h e [Development
f r o m t h e fund
we have
ohargo
would
sketch
s o he m e n f o r E d u c a t i o n a n d R e s e a r c h
When a g r a n t
Act
total
1982/23 w i t h w h i c h
p a r t l y from the Board's
(Scotland)
£199,508
figure
to t h o Coir, p r o d u c t i o n
set
of
tha
for
they
t h e Fund
£30,0*90 i n
utilisation
position
originally
i n e r s - s e - e , we a r e
Agriouitural
The c o s t
grant
o v e r 1922/3 o f
thie
tc
for
re-settlement.
down b y s p e c i a l mdh&uitfi
assets
and t h o
in
t h e Fund m a k i n g the
of
mode was k e p t
realisation
a larger grant
the l o s s
an I n c r e a s e
on i n o r o o s o
£201.86C b u t a s t h e
Fund was u n d e r d i s o u s a i o n
however t h a t ,
In explanaticn
is
of
estimate
to recoup
e s t i m a t e £401,147,
there
275,353
was c o n t e n d " ! b y t h e D e p a r t m e n t
of
Agriculture
that
tho
£ 1 5 0 * 0 0 (Kmu3-t "be: a d d i t i o n a l .
to--euairtiffig---e^^^
on a g r i c u l t u r a l
development.-
however
reductions
certain
expenditure
line"
of
( w h i c h was t a k e n
a t . £143,500.-
over
of
expenditure
"normal"
is
the
committed
if
of
the
for
continuance
d e s i r e to set
endowment t o
In the
course
of
to c o n s i d e r ' d e f e r r i n g
Corn R e p e a l g r a n t
of
and we u r g e
it
that
the
£143,500
pledge
should not
given
to
i n mind t h a t c e r t a i n
"datum l i n e "
culties
the
sohemes
up a s e r v i c e
provide
Government
initiated
for
of
the
36-^ r d
e c o n o m i e s b e i n g made
if
and
fur the r r e d u c e d ;
were
desire
advanced
to
by t h o .Ged8.es C o m m i t t e e
£150,000
offered
from
the
to
this
end., .
expenditure
i n view
of
bearing
effected
the
when
practical
in t h i s
diffi­
directions
preclude
We
reasonable
offers.
( Scotland)
draw a t t e n t i o n
have
community and
should not
Agriculture
the
economical
but
considerable
opportunity
not
expenditure
s t e p s s h o u l d be t a x e n
pledge
to
(p.
be
speaking
from t h e
may be p o s s i b l e
economies
that
it.
agricultural
further
that
there
will
with
which w i l l
apart
progress
reductions
level
(para,
that
We t h i n k t h a t b r o a d l y
was f i x e d , we s e e
i n making
think however
be
the
should
existing
we c o n s i d e r
We h a v e c o n s i d e r e d w h e t h e r , t h e n o r m a l
of
"dat
fixed
grant
in England
our d i s c u s s i o n s tho
the
where
and a
maintained.
by 1927 t h e y s h o u l d s e t
a sufficient
t o d o so
be
year period
£150,000 g r a n t .
terminated
1921-22)
t h e a s s u m p t i o n by t h o D e p a r t m e n t
to
Board
existing
Corn R e p e a l
of Agriculture)
the five
the
the
the s i m i l a r g r a n t
end o f
the
Treasury
on a g r i c u l t u r a l , s e r v i c e s , was
should
of
on M i n i s t r y
no j u s t i f i c a t i o n
for
the
y e a r s - and t h a t meantime t h e
in the case
Report
after
aid
five
with
i n the,
as £ 1 5 4 , 5 5 5
I t was a r r a n g e d t h a t
bo e x p e n d e d
2 of
were e f f e c t e d
normal e x p e n d i t u r e
As
By a g r e e m e n t
the
42 o f
Pnnd.
considerations
second
Interim
Report/
Report)
regarding
(Scotland)
t i o n Acts
the a d m i n i s t r a t i o n
Fund.
Act
an a n n u a l i n c o m e . o f
h a s been p a i d
by
fund
is
(Scotland)
administered
the
Secretary
for
oh t h e
Estimates
or
We c o n s i d e r
confined
Scotland
subject
for
annually
that
so
general
voted
has
moneys
Taxation
Account.
ten years
has b e e n
provided
Act
1919 f o r
it
Is
The t o t a l
e x p e n d e d under t h e
Following
the
that
improving
to
Treasury
and C r o f t e r
subject
shovm
of
t h e Fund s h o u l d
Housing
leaving
to be
be
the
voted
parliamentary
control.
sum a p p r o v e d b y P a r l i a m e n t
Land S e t t l e m e n t A c t s
of
not
control.
purposes
to d i r e c t
is
authority
Settlement.
capital
limit
B e a r d on t h e
and e x p e n d i t u r e
recommendation o f
the
by t h e
agricultural
Land
to
Fund w h i c h
local
that t h e expenditure
t o Land S e t t l e m e n t
expenditure
decided
for
Produc­
Housing.
This
of
into this
Scottish
£15,000 annually
the Land S e t t l e m e n t
Crofter
agriculture
n o t more t h a n £ 1 8 5 , 0 0 0 o f
t o g e t h e r w i t h £15,000 from t h e
to
the
The £ 1 5 0 , 0 0 0 g r a n t u n d e r t h e C o r n
(Repeal.)
In addition
of
i n S c o t l a n d was
t h e Geddee C o m m i t t e e
capital
expenditure
it
s h o u l d be
to
be
£3,500,000.
was
reduced
£3,000,000.
The " f i g u r e g i v e n t o t h e Geddss C o m m i t t e e
as t h e e m c u r t o f t h e s o c a l l e d " c o m m i t m e n t s "
o f t h e B o a r d a t t h e end o f 1921 was
By t h e
abandonment
figure
is
of
certain
this
now r e d u c e d t o
Schemes no?j i n v i e w w i l l
expenditure
making
schemes
of
a total
about
of
about
£
2,666,252
2,409,751
involve
a
further
200,000
2,600,000
We/
We u n d e r s t a n d
reached
for
that
this
another
In view
of
total
two
of
expenditure
will
not
years..
the magnitude
of
tho
loss
on
Scottish
Land S e t t l e m e n t
w h i c h was
r e o e h t l y commented on b y
Public
Accounts
Committee
we c o n s i d e r
should
be made t o
and t o w e e d o u t
importance
to
men and t o
the
to
the
than
in
the
restrict
whsro
Lowlands
We u n d e r s t a n d
t h e 7/ h a v e
and
agreed
themselves
to
£ 2 , 6 0 0 , 0 0 0
without
for
settlement
is
the
excess
light
of
course
far
ex-service
as
not
this
to
the s i t u a t i o n
should
be
commit
capital
the q u e s t i o n
acute.
view
spend or
a total
possible
expansive
demand i s m o r e
will
of
to
much l a s s
they
that
Act
expenses w i l l
Receipts
from
Of s t a l l i o n s
of
already
1918 i n
limit
the
then
of
Treasury
prevailing.
adopted..
amount
to
recqmne nded
to
fees
service
administering
including
.........
(para.
as
this
Scotland
about
that the Act
of
c o s t of
** * .
£2,160
. . . . . . . . . . . -
1,000
registration
Agriculture)
permit
total
amount t o
fees - for
will
the
of
of
new schemes a s
that
overhead
cost
the p r i o r i t y
Breeding,
Horse Breeding
We have
of
resubmitting
We u n d e r s t a n d
the
attach
t h e Board a c c e p t
We recommend t h a t t h i s
Horse
I n p a r t i c u l a r we
that
i n the
effort
scheme
and where
spend in
discussion
of
every
the
on t h e
tho maintenance
limitation
that
expenditure
applicants.
Highlands
be
being'
6 of
s h o u l d be
increased
saving
in
Report
Ministry
amended s o
to c o v e r
Scotland
of
about
the
whole
£l,160a
A dm I n i a t r a t i o n *
We u n d e r s t a n d
staff
s o as
to secure
t h a t the
as from 1 s t
Board a r e
reducing
January n e x t t h e
their
reduction
in/
in administrative
annum,
the
expenditure
recommended b y t h e
fall
and a f t e r
a further
expenditure
10.
in
of
If
reduction
is
obtained
Act
should
agreed
in
for
Fund.
1923-24
on t h e
31st
to e n a b l e
r e s p e c t of
saving
therefore
of
to
administrative
Agriculture
from
the
the
Land
i n o r d e r t o meet c e r t a i n
the
will
Land
accrue to
be a v a i l a b l e
Vote
with regard
for
oom­
Sottle­
t h e Fund o f
in
we have
laud
81,500
recommended a c h a n g e
t o the a d m i n i s t r a t i o n
for
31,500
1 9 2 3 - 8 4 a sun o f
Fund and a f a r t h e r
smount a v a i l a b l e
On t h e
Board have
estimate
a balance
under t h o
To r e c a p i t u l a t e
(Scotland)
savings
of
50,000
ment a f u r t h e r
There w i l l
In view
per
of
peuaation charges
future
the not
Fund o n
sums a v a i l a b l e
Settlement
policy
on t h e
to borrow r e t r o s p e c t i v e l y
capital
11.
that
(Scotland)
legislation
Board
tho
£4,000 i n
balances
reduced by u t i l i s i n g
March n e x t
further
£130,000
1983-24,
We u n d e r s t a n d
Agriculture
that
of
of
Committee.
discussion
reduction
Utilisation
c a n be
the r a t e
Sadies
i n bonus we c o n s i d e r
be p o s s i b l e
effect
to
reduction
settlement
of
the
i n tho
in
Agriculture
capital
which should
reduce
liabilities,
total
not e s t i m a t e
we h i v e recommended the
Administration.
Horse Breeding'' A c t .
U t i l i s a t i o n of balances
t u r e Fund
for
19 2 3 - 2 4 o f
following
........
&
401,147
savings
4,000
1,160
on t h o
Reducing the net estimate
1923-24 to . . . . . . .
Agricul­
81,500
86,660
for
£314,487
But/
But
in view
the A g r i c u l t u r e
as w e l l
figure
that
83 o f
of
the very
(Scotland) fund
must b e r e g a r d e d as p r o v i s i o n a l
examination
and f r o m t h e A g r i c u l t u r e
the Estimates
question
of
of
the e xt e n t
(Scotland)
of
the
p o i n t e d out
obtained
sums a v a i l a b l e
compensation
charge
on t h e
to enable
for
passed i n
in para.
from t h i s
January,
and t h e
t o be k e p t
on
(Scotland)
borrow from t h e
in order
Fund.
of
legislation
t o meet
which have h i t h e r t o f a l l e n
-17­
Vote
place
10 a b o v e , £ 3 1 , 5 0 0
t h e Board t o
Agriculture
final
examined.
land settlement,
payments
our
Fund s h o u l d t a k e
s a v i n g s w h i c h we recommend d e p e n d upon
being
Fund,
o n l y and we recommend
the balance required
t h e Fund s h o u l d t h e n be a g a i n
As we h a v e
6 above,
the expenditure
are f i n a l l y
Involving
and t h e D e v e l o p m e n t
our r e c o m m e n d a t i o n i n p a r a .
a further
before
complicated finance
as a
capital
certain
final
APPENDIX A ,
Statement
icultural
oat i o n a n d
exarch."
showing S e r v i c e s i n c l u d e d i n
Expenditure of £143,500.
the
A g r i c u l t u r a l and V e t e r i n a r y C o l l e g e s Maintenance
R e s e a r c h i n A n i m a l N u t r i t i o n At R o w e t t
Research I n s t i t u t e , Aberdeen
M i n o r Schemes o f R e s e a r c h a t N o r t h o f
Scotland C o l l e g e of A g r i c u l t u r e
Research I n t o Diseases of Animals
Animal Breeding A s s o c i a t i o n
Plant Breeding Association
M i n o r Schemes o f R e s e - r m h a t W e s t o f
S c o t l a n d A g r i c u l t u r a l C o l l e g e and
U n i v e r s i t y C o l l e g e , Dundee
Milk Records A s s o c i a t i o n
T e r r e g l e s School - Maintenance
Grant t o S c o t t i s h B o o k - k e e p e r s
Association
£76,778
5,811
1,622
2,900
i;900
1,100
1,318
4,664
800
1
Stock,
fegeroial
oirlfroi.
nd C u l t i ­
50
7,000
5,000
- $00
6,650
1,000
3; goo
6', 000
2)800
200
' 949
C a t t l e Scheme N o . 1
"
"
No. 2
P i g Scheme
S h e e p Scheme
A g r i c u l t u r e Shows
Improvement o f P o u l t r y B r e e d i n g
Heavy Horse B r e e d i n g
H i g h l a n d Pony S t a l l i o n s
Shetland
"
"
Horse Breeding A c t
S h e t l a n d and Sutherland" V e t e r i n a r y
Service
Miscellaneous Expenditure, including
G r a n t s f o r P r i s e s and M i n o r E x p e r i m e n t s
Administration of Destruction
and P e s t s A c t s , S e e d s & c t s ,
573
287
of Insects
etc.
2,961
I n c l u d i n g Land R e c l a m a t i o n , D e s t r u c t i o n
o f R a t s and M i c e and o t h e r P e s t s
1,102
j
jfomy.
7,937
£143,502.
PART
III.
"ISEERY BOARD FOE SCOTLAND.
Expenditure from
D e v e l o p m e n t Fund.
Expenditure
from' V o t e
23,511
1,259
Estimate
62,451
66,041
122/23 E s t i m a t e
52,450
10,5-10
123/24 S k e t c h
65,779
10,300
1113/14 A u d i t e d
1
1/22
Expenditure
Estimate
1.
Included
in the
Item
of £15,980 f o r
Superintendence
Sketch Estimate
a supplementary
the
£15,000 from the L o c a l
together
vessels
that
t o meet
of
cost
of
every e f f o r t
estimates
maintained
on an e f f i c i e n t
per
ana u p k e e p
at
appears,
that
to
this
7e
to
are
this
at
is
informed
the
can o n l y
present
of
Fund
protection
o b t a i n economy
service
basis
payment
the f i s h e r y
an e x p e n d i t u r e
however,
accumulated during
that
from
t h e war t h e r e
be
cost
about
of
£30,000
on 3 1 s t
that
should be u t i l i s e d
this
reserve
coming y e a r
grant
of
and t h i s
£.15,000 w i l l
that year
should be
?-e c o n s i d e r
economy ton t h i s
The c o s t
of
in
further
that
Ve
for
assistance
there
of
consider
upkeep
sum. t o g e t h e r w i t h t h e
1923/24.
fund
be a b a l a n c e
March 1 9 2 3 .
render
Exchequer unnecessary
the r e s e r v e
will
£25,000 remaining
2.
Marine
annum.
It
the
the
a new
from f i n e s , e t c . ,
t h e Fund.
Department
wages
to
Taxation Account
the
maintained from
In s p i t e
grant
annual s t a t u t o r y
w i t h the minor r e c e i p t s
insufficient
1923/4 i s
Fund.
We u n d e r s t a n d t h a t
of
for
during
statutory
from- t h e
The p o s i t i o n
after
considered.
is
further
scope
for
Vote.
the
administrative
-19-
staff
w h i c h was
only/
o n l y £ 1 4 , 1 6 0 I n 1913/14 i s
The l a t t e r
but,
it
as
figure
the
shows a d e c l i n e
sutmati-c
appears
that
saving
Tie t h i n k t h a t
about £1,700,
Salaries
is
a reduction
increased
s h o u l d be
here..
Board have
ed t o agree
of
Provisional
The g r a n t
i n a i d of
d.oes n o t
may b e p o s s i b l e
Estimate
for
Harbours
(£2,000)
appear
of
the
£8,970
Research.
w h i l e no doubt
a n d i t may
we t h i n k t h a t
a further
net
f i n a n c e d by the
a saving
the p r o v i s i o n
prepar­
in
the
reduction
£2,500,
services
F e n d we c o n s i d e r t h a t
reducing
of
are
to
reduction.
Beard should be asked t o e f f e c t
regards
later
Fishery
t o us e s s e n t i a l
and o t h e r d i r e c t i o n s
I n the Sketch Estimate
Fishery
o f £300 on t h e sum o f
our o p i n i o n b e s u s c e p t i b l e
In these
the
£200 on t r a v e l l i n g ; , and t h e y
to a reduction
S$OWB i n t h e
desirablo
was s u b m i t t e d ,
i n f o r m e d tis t h a t i t
a saving
As
1933/24.
£ 1 , 0 4 1 o n 1922/23
on bonus i s
Since the Sketch Estimate
effect
of
the provision f o r
b y n e a r l y £700.,
effected
put a t £35,644 f o r
for
of
Development
£ 1 , 0 0 0 s h o u l d b e made b y
some o r a l l
of
t h e f ollo?d n g
s e r v i c e s :.P r o v i s i o n i n Sketch
Estimate.
- r*
Grants t o independent
L o b s t e r Culture
institutions
650
Oyster Culture
Salmon F i s h e r y
Accordingly
Fishery
and
500
we recommend t h a t
the net
estimate
of
Board s h o u l d be r e d u c e d from £65,779 t o
that expenditure
S k e t c h E s t I ma to- as s u b m i t t e d showed
oa t h e
recommendations
estimates
estimates
It
will
a reduction
of
r-20^
of
Fund
The
an i n c r e a s e
1922/23 but under
of
our
show b y c o m p a r i s o n w i t h
£5,151,
the
£47,299
recouped from the Development
should be reduced f r o m £ 1 0 , 3 0 0 t o £ 9 , 3 0 0 ,
£13,329
300
835
these
PART
IV.
ORDNANCE SURVEY.
1922/23 E s t i m a t e
,
1923/24 S k e t c h E s t i m a t e
1.
The V o t e l o r
reduced
but
to
this
the f i g u r e
o n l y by r e d u c i n g
...
further
Actually
£19.546 but they
£9,000
the
2.
Office
1,090
of
staff,
Cleaners)
as
In
for
from
mainly
part
on p a y ,
time workers
artificers
of
of
of
opportunity
and t h e
staff
offers.
continued u n t i l
a strength
1,000
is
hoped t h a t
will
3.
In all
tory
steps
of
be e f f e c t e d
are b e i n g taken t o
no?/ numbers
No
be
circumstances
(I.e.
1913/14.
that
An
secure
extensions
is
being
assurance
this
policy
is
reached..
by t h e end o f
we c o n s i d e r
t o recommend a n y r e d u c t i o n
Estimate.
the
sales.
has been g i v e n by t h e Department
unable
economy
explains
and a d e c l i n e
a r e now b e i n g g r a n t e d
the
an
a b s o r b e d b y an i n c r e a s e
and i n c l u d i n g
this
stores,
Committee
1923/24.
stores
excluding
s t e a d i l y r e d u c e d as
G-eddes
and w h i c h p a r t l y
compared w i t h 2,077 i n
service
1922/23 was
provision for
nearly
on e x p e n d i t u r e
The
£170,050
are economies,
are
£ 7 , 9 5 0 on r e c e i p t s
...
recommended b y t h e
reduction
there
£172,646
Department f o r
w h i c h cannot be r e p e a t e d
small
,
that
will
It
1923/4.
satisfao­
economy and we a r e
on t h e
Sketch
PART
Y.
-
FORESTRY COMMISSION-,
t.
T h e amounts v o t e d f o r
/
i
follows?­
the s e r v i c 4 have b e e n as
. £
1919/20
...
...
99,000
1920/21
...
...
379,000
1921/22
...
...
200,000
1922/23
...
...
20,000
1923/24
(proposed)
The a n n u a l V o t e
and i t s
"the end
2.
a grant
amount t h e r e f o r e
expenditure
at
is
but
of
207,000
in aid
paid
depends not
i n t o the
only
on t h e
the p r e v i o u s
Expenditure
recommended
operations
of
the Commission should b e brought
the a d v i c e
of
the
Heports, the
Cabinet
and a c c e p t e d
& modified
a
The b a l a n c e
at
fet
decided
expenditure
grant
an e x p e n d i t u r e
is
reducing
of
...
...
Fund c a r r i e d
...
reduce
year
to
Oeddes
1922/23.
£195,000
forward
£175,000
for
1922/23 t o
...
....
for
...
on 3 1 s t March
£
20,000
£
...
212,000
1923
of
in aid
for
1922/24 t o
discussions,
expenditure
...
the F o r e s t r y
on a d v a n c e s
£207,000
Commissioners
for afforestation
...
effect
the
for
...
1922/23 b y
and t o
On
5,000
grant
AS a r e s u l t
the
recommendation
at
the
agreed t o
enforce t h i s
1923/24 p r o v i d e s
which the balance
estimated
3.
of
to
that
end.
examinee t h e
...
in aid
The S k e t c h E s t i m a t e f o r
not
t o an*
programme o f a f f o r e s t a t i o n
3 1 s t March 1922 was
against
Committee which
on t h e F o r e s t r y
reducing the
o f t h e Fund
year.
on n a t i o n a l
Cabinet
Fund,
proposed
a l s o oh t h e b a l a n a e t o t he o r e c i t
The Committee
involving
Forestry
other
extent
savings
of
in
...
the
...
have
in
19,000
current
...
...
15.OOP
£
34.000
he
The b a l a n c e
on t h e
3 1 s t March n e x t w i l l
be i n c r e a s e d t o
...
...
...
accordingly
...
The C o m m i s s i o n e r s h a v e a l s o a g r e e d
ly
under t h e
for
1923/24
head
of.
Accordingly
be
reduced
...
...
which there w i l l be a balance
the
Grant
...
in Aid
main­
estimate
£10,006
t h e Commission
...
202., 0 0 0
carried
..
in
sksfe&h
of
...
required
on t h e
...
expenditure
to
Fund o f
t o make a l - e d u c t i o n
operations
...
estimated
in the Forestry
Making
cultural
...
the
1923/24 w i l l
Against
of
£39,000
in
over
39J0OJD
i
1923/24 £163,000
?
i
4.
We u n d e r s t a n d
transfer
to
that
a Bill
the F o r e s t r y
in
course o f
preparation
Commission
liability
i n respect
F o r e s t r y schemes I n i t i a t e d
in respect
Land
of
the Development
pfesent
to
of
Commissioners
financed
from
and
the
Revenues.
schemes
is
liability
estimated
With r e g a r d t o
current
£2,000
year the expenditure
leaving a deficit
informed
Forest
on t h e s t a t e
charged to
.
estimated
Development
-
i..
at
that
the
home t i m b e r
£
the
72,900
...
..£ ,,,4.000
item
for
Revenue
68.,900
dependent
market
that
...
la r g e s t
£45,100 which i s
of the
t h e Land
...
of
however
Produce
from t h e
p e r annum.
i.
receipts are
We a r e
at
arising
t h e Crown v/oofls we u n d e r s t a n d
approximately
while
is
by
t h e Crown v/oods a t
The i n c r e a s e d
is
is
of
for
receipts
realisation
and i s u n l i k e l y
to
be reached,
5,,
The S k e t c h E s t i m a t e a l s o
ments w h i c h may h a v e
on t h o d i v i s i o n
on t h i s
of
makes no p r o v i s i o n
t o b e made t o
assets
of
N o r t h e r n and S o u t h e r n
t h e Fund.
a c c o u n t may b e r o u g h l y
for any
estimated
The c o n t i n g e n t
at
£10,000
pay­
Ireland
liability
6.
On t h e
other
hand
p r o v i d e s a sum o f
tation
item
coming
is
for
the R e l i e f
afforos­
Commission
not
he
have
required
t o t h e Commission
o f unemployment
of
in
from
the
winter.
A final
decision
hardly a--ears
:at t h e p r e s e n t d a t e b u t t a k i n g
into consideration
may t r e a t
grant
Fund f o r
all
we t h i n k t h a t
t h e i t e m s mentioned
as b a l a n c i n g
that a
for
susceptible
expenditure w i l l
any money i s a l l o c a t e d
the Vote
7.
This
Estimates
for advances
and i n a n y c a s e t h e
agreed t h a t t h i s
if
i.20,000
i n 1923/24.
reduction;
the Sketch
each other
and
i n a i d should
1923/24 o f
of
circumstances
t h e moment we
paragraphs
we. a c c o r d i n g l y
b e made t o
£163,000,
£ 4 4 , 0 0 0 on t h e amount
the
for
in
possible
being
£207,000
the
4 - 6
recommend
Forestry
a reduction
originally
of
estimate
PART
VI
Development
1.
The D e v e l o p m e n t Fund a t
distinct
the p r e s e n t
time
consists
The
"new f u n d "
consisting
the English ministry
provided
for
(ii)
The
"old"
of
t h e ££$50,000
of A g r i c u l t u r e
from the
issues
(Repeal)
Act
1921.
fund w h i c h was f o r m e d a s t h e r e s u l t
t o t h e Fund up t o
£2,900,000.
A sum o f
by a g r e e m e n t w i t h t h e
on t h e u n d e r s t a n d i n g
in
2.
1922-23 i f
The
account
economic
that parliament
The
is
s t a n d s by
of
in
issued
The
to
1920-21 hut
to
the
Fund
w o u l d be a s k e d t o
of
fund a r e made by t h e
various
revote
the
source
purposes
Commissioners
is
on t h e
either
to
taken
into
on t h e M i n i s t r y
tending
to
the
Grants
from
recommendation of
Government
the
the
Departments
shown on t h e g r o s s v o t e s
r e c o u p e d by a p p r o p r i a t i o n s
of
from which
the United Kingdom.
Treasury
when t h e e x p e n d i t u r e
and h a s b e e n
the Sub-Committee
found f o r
D e p a r t m e n t and i s
itself
" o l d " Fund i s
development
Development
1909.
amount
S I , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0 was v o t e d
T r e a s u r y was n o t
in the Report
expenditure
the present
of
required.
"new f u n d "
Agriculture.
allocated
-SI.000,000
t h e D e v e l o p m e n t and Road I m p r o v e m e n t Funds A c t ,
it
two
e d u c a t i o n and r e s e a r c h u n d e r - t h e
agricultural
Corn p r o d u c t i o n A c t s
total
of
parts.
(1)
to
fund.
for
in aid
the
from
the
I
Fund)
or
to
institutions
and s o c i e t i e s
direct,
i
3.
The b a l a n c e
of
t h e Fund w i l l
have been reduced to
£200,-000 by 3 1 s t March 1S23 a g a i n s t
claim to
4.
a sum w h i c h i s
As m a t t e r s
not e x p e c t e d
stand a t p r e s e n t
have to meet r e c u r r e n t
to
exceed
on c o n t i n u i n g
£200,000 i n
a
£153,000.
the Development
expenditure
amounting t o a p p r o x i m a t e l y
which I r e l a n d has
about
Commissioners
schemes
1923-24.
As/
As r e g a r d s - -non r e c u r r e n t ^ e x - p e n d i t u r e
some £ 4 0 0 , 0 0 0 h a s b e e n s p e n t
approximately
at the r a t e
various
commi t m s n t s
as w e l l
as of
5.
i n the l a s t
i n resp-e-dt o f
ordinating
view
of
t h e Development
schemes
from the Exchequer.
of
We c o n s i d e r
stringency
a stricter
expenditure
For the present
from t h e Fund.
6.
f o r future
times
in
no a v o i d a b l e
in the l i g h t
expenditure
to
of
recurrent
grants
furnished
three
and n e c e s s a r y
or
and no
cannot
i n the Fund.
Commissioners
f r o m t h e Fund
Conditions
us w i t h a
and t h a t
thi3
expenditixre
head.
from t h e
ciassifica­
heads:schemes
B.
Schemes w h i c h ' i t i s d e s i r a b l e t o
c o n t i n u e i f money can b e f o u n d .
0.
L e s s imp o r t a n t
These p a r t i c u l a r s
reoort.
as.vital
g i v e n by t h e
of present
in
no new schemes
available
the continuing
charges under
A. Vital
that
recommending
should be i n c u r r e d under
t h e Commissioners have
involving
should be i n c u r r e d which
that undertakings
With r e g a r d
tion
grants
in co­
s t a n d a r d must b e
development;
t o recommend r e c u r r e n t
should be r e v i s e d
Fund,
of past
met f r o m moneys i m m e d i a t e l y
We c o n s i d e r
in past
the f r u i t
work
however
should be undertaken which cannot be r e g a r d e d
to reap
s i n c e we
development
in future
be f u l l y
-expenditure
to expire
a p p l i e d by the Commissioners
commitments
are
Commission
the Commissioners p e r f o r m u s e f u l
the financial
necessary
i.e.
There
non r e c u r r e n t
o r t h e Fund l e f t
and s c r u t i n i z i n g
expenditure
2-1" y e a r s
that
recurrent"-expenditure.
3hould b e d i s c o n t i n u e d
that
appears
o f £1.60,000 a y e a r .
We do n o t recommend t h a t
consider
it
s cheme s .
a r e shown i n A p p e n d i x A t o o u r
We c o n s i d e r , t h a t
schemes
steps
c l a s s e d B.
be done,, e x c e p t i n g
agricultural
s h o u l d be t a k e n t o b r i n g
and C-*, as s o o n . a s
for
this
the present, these
development wherej
can
to
an end
reasonably
schemes
of
a s we h a v e p o i n t e d
out. i n
our R e p o r t s , on t h e E n g l i s h and S c o t t i s h D e p a r t m e n t s
of
Agriculture,
for
the
the
grant
present
is
Corn p r o d u c t i o n A c t s
The D e v e l o p m e n t
application
precluded
for
(Repea,l) A c t
a grant
of
£1,000,000
we c o n s i d e r
Eund s h o u l d he f e d by a n n u a l
ishm.er.ts and we recommend t h a t
should nbt exceed
1922,
that
or
for
fairly
the -grant
to
(intld)
R,S.H.
(
u-orell.
Sgd)
forward
an
1923-24.
£250,000.
'
5th October,
in
to
1921.
Commissioners have put
On t h e w h o l e ,
the
practically
by t h e a r r a n g e m e n t s made w i t h r e g a r d
under the
7.
reduction
the
present
frequent
replen­
t h e Eund i n
1923-24
ABPSIDIX , A .
DBVELOPIIgJITT C0MM1SSION-.
26th September,
At
the meeting with
expenditure
to-day
to be furnished
charges
on t h e
the Cabinet
the Chancellor
of
Suh-Committee
on
the Exchequer
desired
with a classification
.
1922.
of
the
01d Development Fund' under
recurrent
the
following
categories:A. Vital
B.
important
schemes.
has been c l a s s i f i e d
r e d u c e d amounts a r e p r o p o s e d
originally
schemes.
Schemes w h i c h i t i s d e s i r a b l e t o
c o n t i n u e i f money can b e f o u n d .
C. Less
The l i s t
and n e c e s s a r y
accordingly.
I n some
instead
amounts
of
the
cases
shewn.
The,., r e c u r r e n t c h a r g e s f o r , w h i c h t h e I t e v e l ppment Fund i s
^jA^^fv^^^ifdlca-xXpTnoJ** "thej.r estjmatTccT' duration.
liable
r
"
(i)
Approximate
estimate
Capital Advances)
of
annual advances
required
(other
than
f r o m t h e O l d Fund f o r
existing
schemes.
AGRICULTURE A1TD RURAL IEDUSTRIBS.
Aberdeen U n i v e r s i t y
Scotland College of
A.
Animal
and Bbx-th o f
Agriculture.
nutrition,
Agricultural Organisation
( E n g l a n d and W a l e s )
Board o f A g r i c u l t u r e
A.
for
. 8,000
:
Society
NIL
( F i n a l g r a n t made
for 1922-23).
Scotland.
Schemes o f s p e c i a l r e s e a r c h
agricultural science.
A.
E x t e n s i o n work a t the
Scottish Agricultural
B.
in
500
three
Colleges.
Work o f t h e S c o t t i s h
Records A s s o c i a t i o n .
C.
£
&c.
5,000
Milk
3,000
Statistical Investigation
Milk Records.
into
500
-m
"
-
- -
-
-
-
-
^
-
-
—
- -
—-
—
"
-
-
-
­
a; *
A.
A d v i s o r y o f f i c e r s a t Glasgow
C o l l e g e of A g r i c u l t u r e .
2,500
E d i n b u r g h U n i v e r s i t y and E a s t o f
S c o t l a n d C o l l e g e of A g r i c u l t u r e ,
A.
R e s e a r c h work i n animal b r e e d i n g .
Imperial
C.
College
of
Science
Electro-culture
Ministry
Ai
& "Technology.
experiments.
of A g r i c u l t u r e
and
1,500
Fisheries.
A g r i c u l t u r a l r e s e a r c h and e x p e r i m e n t s ,
t e c h n i c a l and a d v i s o r y w o r k , s c h o l a r s ­
s h i p s and s p e c i a l r e s e a r c h e s .
B.
Maintenance of N a t i o n a l
of A g r i c u l t u r a l Botany.
C.
E x p e r i m e n t a l work i n
105,000
Institute
3^000
Demonstrations i n milk
on a r a b l e l a n d .
B.
1,000
production
3,000
agricultural
6,000
machinery.
C.
Demonstration Lactose
C.
Tobacco e x p e r i m e n t s .
A.
National
A.
Rural
A.
A. B.
Federation
Industries
Factory.
1,000
300
of
Women's I n s t i t u t e s .
Intelligence
Burea.u.
Scottish Agricultural Organisation
Society.
. Scottish Society for research i n plant
breeding.
Village
Clubs A s s o c i a t i o n .
2,500
3,000
2,500
1,100
2,000
FISHERY HARBOURS' A I D FISHERY RESEARCH AND
DEVELOPMENT.
Independent Marine
Institutions.
A.
Dove Marine
Laboratory,
A.
Marine B i o l o g i c a l
Cullercoats.
Association
of
the U n i t e d Kingdom.
C.
Liverpool
A.
Millport
'G.
10,400
University
' University College
Aberystwyth.
1,500
(port Erin)
lyOOO
2,000
of
Wales,
300
Ministry
of A g r i c u l t u r e
Fisheries.
General f i s h e r i e s s c i e n t i f i c work,-­
i n c l u d i n g maintenance of r e s e a r c h
v e s s e l , and p r o p o r t i o n o f g r a n t '
towards the cost o f . t h e M i n i s t r y * s
s c i e n t i f i c f i s h e r i e s staff...
A.C;.-
"Directed''
B.-
Miscellaneous
A.
Maintenance of
at Lowestoft.
B.
A.
and
researches.
1,000
researches.
fisheries
500
laboratory
300
S h e l l f i s h i n v e s t i g a t i o n s and m a i n t e n a n c e
of " C a s t l e Bank", i n c l u d i n g p r o p o r t i o n
of cost of s c i e n t i f i c s t a f f .
Fisheries
Fishery
A.
Organisation
Board f o r
Maintenance
Society.
Scotland.
of
the Board*s
Dredging
£if 7 , 0 0 0
A.
Supervision
B.
Miscellaneous fishery
services.
Grants to Independent
Institutions..
of harbour works.
C.
Experiments
C..
Salmon f i s h e r y
C.
Oyster
West
G.
in
lobster
1,400
research
400
Marine
300
culture.
research.
Fishery
Administrative
900
600
fisheries.
Cornwall
4,700
2,000
Department.
C-
£
15,000
500
Loan Committee.-
expenses.
$ -Partly r e c o v e r a b l e from the
o f the harbours dredged..
65
authorities
Board o f
1923/4
Vote.
1922/3
Reduction.
&
JP
*
Ordinary
Services
it:var S e r v i c e s
Trade
*w m
**** u
476,925
540.200
601,498
1.263.047
1,017,125
1,864,545
'
124,573
722.847
847,420
Salaries
and W a g e s .
Since the
Board o f
submission o f " t h e i r
T r a d e h a v e -informed me t h a t
c a n b e r e d u c e d b y t h e sum o f
and wages
is very
bonus a l o n e ,
in the
that
original
little
Establishment
t h e amount
£5, 600.
automatic
temporary s t a f f
Statistical
and
taken f o r
The d e c r e a s e
more t h a n t h e
A considerable
-ertimafce-rthe.
is
Branches
I
of
££,000 by decreasing
am o f
opinion that
to the
feasibility
Tariff
S e c t i o n s w i t h the
Department
Standards
of
of
still
and I
Overseas
renewed c o n s i d e r a t i o n
separate
library,
similar
in
employed
consider
further
staffs.
should b e
given
Statistical and
sections
in
the
Trade,.
Department.
At p r e s e n t
Department
is
the y i e l d
o n l y £350 p e r
t h e Board o f
Trade,
sufficiently
to bring
addition,
these temporary
amalgamating the
salaries
decrease
t h e Board m i g h t r e a s o n a b l y b e a s h e d t o make a
reduction
in
bonus
the
fees
I
of
fees
annum.
consider that
t o be
Standards
communication w i t h ­
the fees
s h o u l d be
increased
£ 1 , 0 0 0 p e r annum.
c h a r g e d u n d e r t h e new M e a s u r i n g
largely
pumps, s h o u l d , a s f a r
as p o s s i b l e
passed into
After
in approximately
ments B i l l , w h i c h i s
i n v o l v e d to the
charged by the
for
the
purpose
In
Instru­
of
supervising
cover the f u l l
expenditure
Standards Department by that
measure i f
it
of
charging a
fee
but I
agree with
the
petrol
is
lav;.
Pues^sr^ 0 l a i m s
I
for
the
have
considered the a d v i s a b i l i t y
registration
B o a r d of T r a d e t h a t
b e deferred f o r
of
Russian-claims
the question
of
Imposing
such a c h a r g e
should
the p r e s e n t , .
W a ^ g o r y ices..
Kb r e d u c t i o n
taken f o r
the
appears t o be p r a c t i c a b l e
liquidation
of
services
arising
on t h e
provision
out
t h e War,, .
of
The n e t
are
total
of
the
Vote,
if
the
above
recommendations
c a r r i e d o u t , w o u l d be r e d u c e d b y a f u r t h e r
Mercantile
I Jar i n e
1923/4.
£
Ordinary
Services
384,915
55.,750
57.500
410,680
442,415
and. 'Ja'-;ga
Since t h i s
£5,200 but
the
amount t a k e n f o r
decrease
automatic
of
I
reductions
that
accelerated
reduction
.
of
reduction
staff
of
I
bonus can b e
still
staff
the
to the
extent
is
£ 3 , 0 0 0 on R e g i s t r y
only
Marine
as
the
arising"
Department
in
by
admitted
but'"
should
be
i n a d d i t i o n to. t h e
necessary
Vote
have
reduced
Board should t a k e
steps
to effect
1923/24.
an
This
follows
Offices
£ 5 , 0 0 0 on S u r v e y o r s
gees,
It
in this
c o n s i d e r be e f f e c t e d
£ 7 , 0 0 0 on M e r c a n t i l e
Trade
approximately
alone.
l e a s t . £ 1 5 , 0 0 0 on t h i s
might
31,735
a c c o r d i n g l y recommend t h a t ,
reduce s t a f f s
at
1-750 ,
c a n be made " o n v a c a n c i e s
£5,200 mentioned,
forthwith to
economy o f
I
is
d r o p i n bonus
that reductions
consider
29,985
9
the t o t a l
same as t h e
Reductions.
£
e s t i m a t e was s u b m i t t e d t h e B o a r d o f
i n f o r m e d me t h a t
£8,250.
Vote.
1922/3
£
354,930
War S e r v i c e s
Salaries
Services
sum o f
J
of
S h i p p i n g and Seamen.
v
The C a b i n e t
Marine O f f i c e s
estimate
eluding
that
Offices
I?-/ornery t h a t
the
total
oost
for
Ice Patrol,
but
I
p r o b a b l y be p o l i t i c
in re-imposing
Treasury
Offices,
including provision
desire to re-affirm
s h o u l d be s e l f - s u p p o r t i n g
Mercantile
and t h e
1923-24 o f t h e
b e a p p r o x i m a t e l y £ 1 4 0 , 0 0 0 on t h e
Board.
the
s h o u l d b e made s e l f - s u p p o r t i n g
the A t l a n t i c
Votes, w i l l
by t h e
decided l o o t
but
the
figures
the p r i n c i p l e
I
for
on
other
furnished
that
consider that
fee
ex­
it
engagement
these
would
and
discharge
to
its
former
rate
t h e new and i n c r e a s e d f e e s
should
he c a r e f u l l y
a view to
Offices
fix
reduction
consider
1
of t h e
£272,780
case
that
should e f f e c t
(or
if
of the
Board o f
the
Trade
of the
coot
is
of the
The
removal
£40*000,
for
make
raising
sum t h a n t h e
full
the
cost
£264,000 i f
into
becomes
of
the
in
as e s t i m a t e d
law the
existing
£200,000 i n
to
all
for
the
effect)
staff
is
Liar i n e O f f i c e s ,
revenue t o
include
to the
in t h e i r
stronger
but
I
Board o f
Trade
basis
fees
of
1923/4.
General
sketch estimate
a figure
a
L i g h t h o u s e Fund i n
o f war w r e c k s .
recommendations
I
aid
recommend t h a t
t h e Board o f
Sketch E s t i m a t e
of
becomes
are
the Vote as submitted
saving
Trade
law i n
carried
can b e
into
its
this
are
present
effect,
reduced t o
as s u b m i t t e d s h o w e d a
... .
Making a t o t a l r e d i c t i o n ,
with
Of t h i s
....
extraordinary
by
. ...
-
....
1022/23 o f
budget.
and £ 6 , 7 5 0 t o
net
£
3 1 , v'35
£50,000
25,200
comparison
r e d u c t i o n £300,185 w i l l
o r d i n a r y budget
the
form
£135,480.
The i n c r e a s e o f f e e s u n d e r t h e Economy
( M i s c e l l a n e o u s P r o v i s i o n s ) B i l l w o u l d be . . .
o th e r
And t h e / s a v i n g s recommended a b o v e a r e
....
on t h e
with
accept.
and t h e a b o v e
for
case
carried
A s s u m i n g t h e Economy B i l l
total
watched,
of
-Fund.
£ 4 5 , 0 0 0 as a g r a n t
prepared, t o
The y i e l d
necessary t o
approximately
revision
stum o f
sum b e r e d u c e d t o
the
Mercantile
a complete
Lighthouse
The
fees,
t h e Economy B i l l
a view to raising
Gener/i3
if
£/-.
Survey S e r v i c e
recommended a b o v e
than i n the
later
head a s m a l l e r
Parliament
1923/4, v i z :
with
Surveyors
under t h a t
of
scale
of
self-supporting.
As r e g a r d e
Votes
at
increasing the
fully
revenue
it
306,935,
accrue
services
to
services
falling
on
falling
the
BaJakruptcy D e p a r t m e n t
Before
t h e war t h i s
The B o a r d o f
of
£10 i , e .
penditure
recent
s e r v i c e was a l w a y s - s ^ ^ s u p p ^ o - t i j a g .
Trade propose
they
fbV
estimate
on t h i s
estimates
service
borne
£20,000 i n t h e present
year
it
if,
when t h e f i n a l
appears
1923/4 i s
revise
the
that
the
likely
on t h i s
of
and a l s o
Estimate
deficiency
of
fees
unless
for
Treasury that
further
increase
corresponding
loss
revenue. '
of
of
Mines, Department
1921/22
1923/23
1923/24
this
decision
Department
by
steps
I
T r a d e can c o n v i n c e
duties
of the
Government l a s t
I
an i n t e g r a l
e s t i m a t e d at
of the
consider
part
Statistics
£2,000 p e r
Department
pf
in
f e b r u a r y was
part
of
that
of
a
the
were
that
Board
to
Trade
of
carried
out
if
the
b y one o f t h e
t h e Bo-ar-d i n a d d i t i o n t o
his
other
savings,
posts
and R e g i s t r y b r a n c h e s .
annum w o u l d r e s u l t
should
like
consequential
in respect
of
give '
t h e Department
the Board o f
£4,000 ultimately,,
and t h e
Under S e c r e t a r i e s
the
Het E s t i m a t e
£211910
Net E s t i m a t e
£170284
Sketch Estimate
£162560
decision;
of
fully
Vote. ­
e*g*. t h e M e r c a n t i l e M a r i n o - D e p a r t m e n t , w i t h
saving
to
the, s c a l e w o u l d r e s u l t
to that
further
for
make t h e s e r v i c e s
effect
the S e c r e t a r i a t
framed,
as a whole
but no s t e p ^ h a v e ' b e e n taken b y the. Department
which are
recommend
should be taken
s h o u l d become an i n t e g r a l
become
meet
approximately:
Trade,
forthwith
to
1923/4 comes t o be
to
to
be i n s u f f i c i e n t
on t h e s e r v i c e
Board of
Ox­
According
i n 1923/4.
sufficiently
the
to cover the
Vote.
Parliament
t o exceed £10,000,
scale
self-supporting
The
income
however t h e income w i l l
Votes
-
1923/24 a s i n 1 9 2 2 / 2 3 , a t o k e n " W f c e ­
sufficient
t h e ' e x p e n d i t u r e On a l l
that
Jote-
in
A
ministerial
existing
duties,
as i n t e n d e d by the
further
desire
Cabinet
representations
to
make I
last
February,
the President
think that
of
additional
and s u b j e c t
the
Board of
saving
to
any­
Trade
may
s h o u l d now b e
effected.
A reduction
be e f f e c t e d
if
making a t o t a l
the
on t h e
Vote
of
approximately
above p r o p o s a l s w e r e
reduction
carried
by comparison w i t h
6.
£6,000 would
into
1922/23 o f
effect,
£13,724.
1921-22
1922-23
1923-24
A3
the
Jjet i n t i m a t e Jtet E s t i m a t e Sketch. E s t i m a t e -
I have
Beard o f
stated
with
flhe
I
Sections
of
consider
t o the
rendering
or
is
certain
of
overseas
Hie B o a r d o f
should
be t a k e n t o
Trade
Trade.
devise
t h a t e c o n s i d e r a b l e share
supplying
services
falls
information
on t h e
or
an a n n u a l
of
of
individual
staff
Hungary,
the a c t i v i t i e s
are r e l a t i v e l y
in
trade,
firms
subscription
of
already
chance
employed in
of
of
Italy,
the
the
and P e r s i a and
of
immediate
the d e c i s i o n
estimates
to reduce
the
obtaining
increase
reductions
i n which
such a s A u s t r i a ,
I am n o t c l e a r
t h a t the
I am i n f o r m ­
of
that
the Department a r e r e q u i r e d
reversal
!
by
trade
posts
in
Brazil
trade
Greece,
three
in
Germany
prospects
in connection
to abolish posts
eir­
Department
that the
countries
development,
nor
current y e a r s
consider
should b e o f f s e t
and S w i t z e r l a n d .
two i n
in present
good p r o s p e c t s
but I
involved
representatives
justify
by t h e d e s i r a b i l i t y ,
extending
expenditure
has l i t t l e
the
of
statistical
c o u n t r i e s w i t h i n t h e j&mpire i n w h i c h
that there
in the
or
of
c cms i d e r a t l o n
the L i b r a r y j
s u p p l i e d by means o f
an improvement
of
ensure
am i m p r e s s e d
cumstances,
ed
steps
State
t h a t renewed
with
otherwise.
I
in
sections
that
specific
t o whom i t
think
the Department o f
corresponding
cost
I
to amalgamating
a scheme w h i c h w i l l
the
the paragraphs d e a l i n g
Trade t o t e j
s h o u l d he g i v e n
and T a r i f f
in
£488,956
£342,923
£325,450
in
with
Portugal
from
two
r e d u c t i o n s which
but
t o one.
Having: r e g a r d
for
to
t h e new p r o p o s a l s
the
for
large
extending
the a c t i v i t i e s
/the
of
0
468
the
D e p a r t m a n t would, haija
year"a provision.,
Estimate f o r
I
been p o s s i b l e
reccmmeEui "^oat
19S£**S4 be f i x e d
its
cost from
current
t h e to-te.1 e f
*$f&
a t igSGO^OQQ. s u b j e c t
r e d u c t i o n when t h e D e p a r t m e n t ' s
part of
on t h e
proposals
for
the f i r m s b e n e f i t e d have
to
jrec^vei&i?.g
been
formulated..
,She sketch e s t i m a t e
gubmit-ted. showed
a saving
and fee. r e d . i t ^ t i o i f ^ r e c ^ t i ^ d e d
k^te^ag-a
total reduction'by
1 9 2 ^ / 3 Of
^7,473
tff
ih' t h i s
report
eearparis^a-.*i19!i
£ 4 2 , $23,
l&IHISTRY Olf TRANSPORT YOTti.
1921 22
N e t jsistimate - £ 4 5 3 , 5 0 2
1922-23
liet Estimate - £211,950
1923*24 Sketch E s t i m a t e - £196,000
r
1.
ruary
this
it
The
was d e c i d e d
that
be d e a l t
could
*f
require
the/juestion of
with
to
by
the
b r e a k up w o u l d n o t l e a d
(Railway
staff
confirms
employed
ment R e l i e f
could not,be
be d i s p e n s e d
would
the s t a f f
the
of
conclusion
the
that
assuming t h a t
Unemployment
its
Relief
i m p o s e d by
abandoned.
The
Liquidation
its
the
surplus
and'Unemploy­
com­
v
The v i e w
t a k e n by t h e
economy and e f f i c i e n c y
transport
p o w e r and c o a l ,
Including
Treaties
be c a r r i e d
by t h e B o a r d o f
come t a
the
Board
r o a d and
grouped
secretary
secretary
Trade
conclusion
of
the
canal,
and
questions
i n the
taking
Board o f
o f Trade has s t i l l
questions
Trade
the
President,
all
trade
Patents,
that this
as r e g a r d s
the
in present
to perform
under
a
questions,
Bankruptcy,
the Mines Department,
that
that
all
e x p r e s s e d my v i e w
out f o r t h w i t h
was
if
to assist
and T a r i f f s ,
I have a l r e a d y
should
rail,
were
second parliamentary
Geddes Committee
w o u l d be a t t a i n e d
by s e a ,
one p a r l i a m e n t a r y
the
some
it
w i t h when t h a t w o r k i s
plete.
of
and
reorganisa­
was f e l t
permanent work
on R a i l w a y A g r e e m e n t
will
it
of
Agreement L i q u i d a t i o n ,
1921)
until
larger
t o any e c o n o m y ,
Road Fund management,
Railways A c t ,
of
soon,
investigation
Treasury
abolition
s h o u l d be d e f e r r e d
i n hand
recent
the
peb­
Geddes G o m m i t t e e ,
i n connection with'a
be t a k e n
Department
of
Cabinet l a s t
amalgamating i t w i t h
Government D e p a r t m e a t s , w h i c h
A further
work,
by t h e
as recommended
o t h e r Government Department
work
the
was i h a t no s a v i n g w o u l d r e s u l t f r o m
Department^
tion
by
conclusion reached
etc
pclicy
absorption
but
I
hare
circumstances,
i m p o r t a n t -work
arising
out o f
Ministry
of
not r e a l l y
Transport
only
as w e l l
practicable
a Ministry
of
inoUide
the post
But
control
the
the ahao^rption o f
as the Mines
Communications which w o u l d
Office
of
and t h e M i n i s t r y
questions
relating
over
the M i n i s t r y
post
very
is a great
Office
and
different
employer
Transport
should
questions
arising
labour,
occupy
naturally
Transports
such a new d e p a r t m e n t ,
departments.
of
of
estab­
t*?\ sea commuhi c a t i o n s
to
nature
Department, i s
a l t e r n a t i v e w o u l d he t o
c o u l d n o t he t r a n s f e r r e d
the
the
feasible.
liie
lish
war a c t i v i t i e s
of
an i m p a r t i a l
between the
Transport
The
whereas
are
by
Postmaster-General
the M i n i s t e r
position
Railway
and m o r e ­
on
of
labour
Companies and
their
employees.
I
have t h e r e f o r e
the p r e s e n t
time
this Ministry
2.
have
there
on i t s
Since
been informed
recover
from
1923-24
t h e sum c f
incurred
by t h e
prospect
Caledonian
the
the
on t h e
This w i l l
as submitted
case of
circumstances
eohtinuing
of
Companies
Harbour,
I propose
to
these
expenditure
and
total
to
in
that
take
the
over
particularly
Canals.
reduce a t
services
amount.
Bridge,
and C r i n a n
consider
-io­
to
to
during
the n e t
Menai
is remote,
I am n o t p r e p a r e d
Estimate,
enable
Authorities
the Caledonian
for
the
Transport represent
Ramsgate
included
of
I
now h o p e d
t o be r e d u c e d by t h a t
the l o c a l
the p r o v i s i o n
is
Railway Amalagamation
and C r i n a n O a n a l a ,
but
that it
£55,000 i n repayment
State
for
to
at
basis.
by t h e M i n i s t r y
o f inducing
that
s k e t c h E s t i m a t e was s u b m i t t e d ,
The M i n i s t r y
responsibility
so i n
the
conclusion
no r e a l a l t e r n a t i v e
present
Tribunals
the estimate
3.
is
the
the A m a l g a m a t e d R a i l w a y
Ra i l w a y R a t e s
of
come t o
in
the
January
In'
present
Sketch
next,
before
if
the e s t i m a t e s
any,
expenditure
should, c o n t i n u e
Authorities
will
the M i n i s t r y
Estimate
Mb
of
b e b o r n e by t h e
n o t take, o v e r
have agreed
the
of
what,
the C r i n a n
Canal
if
the
Local
undertaking.,,.
Salaries.
Wages a n d
make i n t h e
Allowances,:,
Sketch '
e s t i m a t e s fPs?-the c u r r e n t ' y e a r . ­
discussicr.s
to- r e d u c e
closed,
£ 1 7 5 , Oof- w h i o h c o m p a r e s w i t h . t h e ;
£104,400 i n the
the resu.lt
of
state
Transport proposed to
provision for
of
finally
on t h e m a i n t e n a n c e
Under t h e - h e a d o f
4-
figure
ts
f o r 1923-24 are
the
the Ministry
figure
i n the
of
Transport . *
v
Sketch
Estimates''
t o £17 0, 0 0 0 *
The r e v i s e d
eland at
net estimate
£135.000; and I
for
the V o t e w i l l
recommend t h a t
accordingly
this figure
should
be ' a d o p t e d .
The S k e t c h E s t i m a t e
saving
and t h e
reductions
making
a total
set
.....£3.5,950
out
in this
60,000
by c o m p a r i s o n
the e s t i m a t e
i o a
report
te
reduction
Ol
shewed a
of
amount
-
as s u b m i t t e d
a
*
* e
9
'
of
u
*
* *
with
the c u r r e n t
4
*'*
* * * * * *
(Initialled)
5th October
19 32
'
year
* * * *
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L*. ^ o r t h i n g t o n - ^ v a n s . ' s Sub - C o m m i t t e e .
REPORT'.
Part E .
A?in1 s t r y
of
Labour.
3.
Class V I I .
.
1921-2
Estimates
(net)
1922-5
Estimates
(net)
£
22-,137,405
Original
14,447,760
Supplementary
J5.562,844
18,010,604
1923-4
1.
with
Sketch E s t i m a t e s
The
the
Sketch Estimates
Estimates
financial
year
as
Administration
Unemployment
)
Insurance e t c . )
T r a i n i n g and
o t h e r r&v
Services
)
)
)
Gross Totals
Appropriations
in Aid
of
(original
from
Labour
for
compare
the
1923-4
£
4,297,400
Increase
£
-
12,991,890
13,198,000
206,110
5,463,142
4;986,500
23,359,289
22,481,900
206,110
5,348,685
4,684,000
664,685
current
is
t h e money has
Decrease
£
606,857
-
17,797,900^
£4,297,400.
incurred
Instirance
'
476,642
1,083,499
1.083.499
870.795
-P212,7Q4.
and i s
t h e Unemployment i^und,
insolvent
of
1922-3
£
4,904,257
Administration
Unemployment
the M i n i s t r y
follows:­
Tfet d e c r e a s e
on A d m i n i s t r a t i o n
17,797,900
and s u p p l e m e n t a r y )
18,010,604
2.
(net)
in
The b u l k
connection
recoverable
t h o u g h as t h e
as
of
the
with
the
expenditure
scheme
of
Appropriations-in-Aid
Fund i s
at
t o be a d v a n c e d on l o a n f r o m
present
the
Exchequer.
The a p p r o p r i a t i o n s
the
total
for
set
1
of
f r o m t h e u n e m p l o y m e n t Fund i n
the a d m i n i s t r a t i o n
vibfeg
provided
post O f f i c e ,
from
Ptationerv
subheads a s
the ^ o t e s
Office,
of
the
fact
they
exceed
include
Office
provision
of-Works,
etc. .
i
The work o f
Scheme
is
benefit
trade o
larpely
and - o u l d
serted
for
an
the
of
decrease
the
that
in
glad
to
these
learn
proposal,
Unemployment
section
of
Fund;
the
of
administering
£10,000 f o r
contributions,
average
of
that
persons
drawing
w i t h any improvement
on a t e m p o r a r y
footing.
c'for
in
lead
to
Division,
expressing approval
generally
Insurance
total
ejtc,
consists
were
increased
the M i n i s t r y
the
of
under
Labour have
figure
to
the
unemployment b e n e f i t
the
to workpeople
for
fares.
withdrawn
This
of
£13,088,000
Unemployment
for
provision
As t h e
of
in unemployment b e l o w an e s t i m a t e d ­
persons
1923-4 would r e s u l t
of
State's
Unemployment Fund a r e a p r o p o r t i o n
any d e c r e a s e
1,250,000
and a s m a l l
and
by £ 7 , 0 0 0 *
a provision
contribution
the
expenditure
.£13,198,000.
of
in­
the T r a d e Boards
e s t i m a t e d a t £100,000 t o A s s o c i a t i o n s
to
of
a sum o f a b o u t £ 7 , 0 0 0 was
the Cave R e p o r t
would
the S t a t e ' s
advances
contributions
in
estimates
payments
is
the c o s t
thus r e d u c i n g
3.
in respect
staff
the Cabinet
recommendations
We a r e
for
coiirse
Increase
impression that
their
on t h e number o f
Sketch Estimates
we do n o t g a t h e r
t h e Unemployment- I n s u r a n c e
dependent
Heariy 70^ of
In the
of
administeriny
I n an
or
10.43f of
excess
the
Insured
population
on this subhead 1
On present information we think that the
figure in the Sketch Estimates should stand.
* draining and other War Services £ 4 , 9 8 6 , 5 0 0 .
The main
item in this group i s the £ 4 ^ 6 9 1 , 5 0 0 for the industrial
4
training of disabled men, which i s the same as the provision
for the C u r r e n t year.
The figures which have been supplied
to us as to the number of men awaiting training, as to the
average cost of training and as to the probable rate of
progress during
1923-4
indicated that this amount is likely
to be largely in excess of actual requirements in 1923*-4*
The provision to be made under this head is dependant on the
Cabinet decision as to the reduction of pensions with the
cost of
livings
According as that reduction is made or
not, we recommend t h a t t h e sum of
£ 2 , 7 0 0 , 0 0 0
or
reduction of
£ 3 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0
£ 6 0 , 0 0 0
Appropriations in
Si,
£ 4 , 6 9 1 , 5 0 0
respectively.
reduced to
be
A corresponding
falls to be made in the estimate of
Aide-
The Sketch Estimates submitted by the Department
showed a reduction of
o
Further decreases recommended
by the'Sub-Committee
£ 2 1 2 , 7 0 4 .
£
7,000
1 P 9 1 , 0 0 0
( 1 9 9 1 , 0 0 0 )
1 6 9 8 . 0 0 0
( 1 9 9 9 , 1 5 9 )
less reduction in
Appropriations in Aid
60 , 0 0 0
making a total reduction in
comparison with
1922-3
of
e
(
1 , 6 3 8 , 0 0 0
(
( 1 , 9 5 8 , 0 0 0 )
(
1 , 8 5 0 , 7 0 4
(
2 , 1 5 0 , 7 0 4 .
(
(
or
according as pensions are or are
not reduced with the cost of living,
(Signed)
oter llth,
1922c
L, WORTH IH GT OH -E VA1TS.
FART II. MINISTRY
OF
PENSIONS.
Class VI. ,3 c
1921-2. Estimates (net)
1922-3
Estimates (net)
. 1923-4
Sketch Estimates
'(net)
:
.£111,556,666,
...
£ 89,991,000...
( £77,968,100
( £ 85,468,100 0
x
.
Allowing for a reduction of pensions with the
- cost of living. .
- e
.
Pot allowing for a reduction of pensions with the
cost of living.
lo
:
It will be seen at the outset that the total of
this Estimate for 1923-^-4 is largely dependent on the
decision taken on the question of the reduction of pensions
and allowances owing to the decline in the cost of living,
Under the Royal Warrants the great bulk of pensions and
allowances are subject to reduction as from 1st April 1923
in proportion to the reduction in the -average .cost of living
index between 1919 and 1922,
The average index figure for
1919 was 215 2 and the average for the first 9 months of
c
this year is 183.-67 '
0
Unless the average for the remaining
three months exceeds 18 5 - 84 - and this would appear to be
somewhat improbable - the whole year will show an average
figure at least one seventh less than the figure for 1919 ,
0
We feel however that so considerable a reduction in pensions
raises questions of policy important enough to merit the
special consideration of the Cabinet and with the assent of
,the Minister of Pensions we make no rocommendation on.the
-matter,,
g.
Following on oorros nondence with, the Treasury,
*
the iJiiiilstry' submitted revised estimates oh the
ft
30th August, amounting to £74,333,100 or £81,574^100
according as allowance.is made, or not made, for cost
of living reduction; these estimates being respectively
£3,635,000 and £3,891,000 less than the original
sketch estimates.
5-.
The revised estimates compare as follows
with the estimates for the- Current year, the figures
in brackets allowing for a dost of living reduction,
1922-23
1923-24
.
B-.3..
;U G.
PENSIONS , GRATUITIES.
AND TREATMENT
A LLO.-VANCES (NURSES )
PENSIONS,GRATUITIES.
AND ALLO .ANCES,.
INCLUDING TREATMENT
AND TRAINING ALLOWS
AKCES CNON-COxviuISS­
10NED OFFICERS AND
; MEN).
il.-0*8i
MEDICAL SERVICES.
1
LOCAL COMMITTEES
V-T 4
MI 3CELLANE0US ,.
£
£
3,685,000
PENSIONS, GRATUITIES
6,078 ,000
AND TREATMENT
ALLOWANCES (OFFICERS )(5 ,618 ,000).
,1.-1.-
,1,-N*
£
2,976,000
ADMINISTRATION
Increase;
129 ;000 .
(116,.000):
12.
P P
R
147 .857 .
( 607 .,857 ) .
125,000. i 4,000 j
71,867,043
1(12,990 ,043 )
i
:
'8,218,000,
;
GROSS TOTAL
APPROPRIATIONS
IN AID.
MET TOTAL
10 ,000
250,100
1 0 , 0 0 0
35 .000
90 ,416,000
165,000
425,000
NET DECREASE( .£8,416,900
( (£15,657,900)
1,567,000
:
285,100
81,739,100
(74,498,100
81,574,100
(74,333,100)­
(9.,000)
! 6,222,043
(58,877,000)
6,651,000
709,000
D R 7
65,645,000
:
- Decrease
;
89,991,000
3,680,900
4 ,000. (15,917 ,900 )
260,00)
: 2 64,000 ! 8,680,900
( 260 ,000;j(.15 ,917 ,900
The f i g u r e s
cf aay a l l o w a n c e
given, below
for cost
are/throughout
exclusive
of living r e d u c t i o n .
Detailed criticism by the Treasury o f t h e s e
revised eDtrcaal.es led. t o the Ministry o f f e r i n g
reduction of £2,141,000, end 6n the e s t i m a t e s
before u s we have felt j u s t i f i e d
£ 4 , 285,, GOO *
Tho r e d u c t i o n s
further
coming
in increasing
offered
a
by the
this
again
sum t o
Ministry
and t h e
further reductions - recommended b y the S u b c o m m i t t e e a r e shown
in
the statement below. I n t h e main t h e s e r e d u c t i o n s do n o t
involve air/ new e c o n o m i e s b u t a r e t h e r e s u l t o f c l o s e r
Two m a t t e r s
call
A reduction
(I)
administration
half
yearly
present
life
certificates
in the cost
en t h e a d o p t i o n
It
reductions
of
practice
of the
Bill.
and £733,000
£500,000
recommended i n t h e r e v i s e d . E s t i m a t e s f o r t h e C o s t
Treatment and T r e a t m e n t A l l o w a n c e s
be n e c e s s a r y
in p l a c e
i s proposed, t o make t h e
changes in the n e x t A p p r o p i a t i o n
respectively
of
o f a system o f
f o r pensioners
certificates..
(II) If t h e f u l l
of
mention
c f £ 4 0 , 000
I s contingent
quarterly
necessary
fes? s p e c i a l
estimation
are t o be r e a l i s e d
for-the M i n i s t r y c f p e n s i o n s t o o v e r h a u l
i t wJ.ll
their
i n regard t o t h e grant- o f t r e a t m e n t t o p e n s i o n e r s w i t h
a v i e w t o e n s u r i n g that treatment i s o n l y g i v e n w h e r e t h e
disability
character
i s t h e r e s u l t of war . s e r v i c e ,
suited
to,the
disability
that
We a r e g r e a t l y
cases s t i l l
u n d e r t r e a t m e n t b y ,the M i n i s t r y
steady
reduction
these
made i n t h e E s t i m a t e s ,
impressed
by the l a r g e n u m b e r s
;
show h e n c e f o r w a r d
at l e a s t
equivalent
the whole
the s u b j e c t o f an e x p e r t enquiry.
is of a
and i s n o t u n n e c e s s a r i l y
prolonged *
Armistice, Unless
it
4 years after
a considerable
of
the
and
t o t h e r e d u c t i o n we h a v e
question
s h o u l d we think b e
Tiie
table
on t h e
b e l o w shews r e d u c t i o n s
r e v i s e d -estimates
64* P e n s i o n s
submitted
the Sketch Estimates
July,
thus making the
by the
Ministry
3 094 000
'
'
192S w h i c h w e r e
submitted
total
4,205,000
t
on. t h e 3T)th A u g u s t ,
below
on t h e
amdunting t o
3
in
r e d u e t i o :a
Sketch Estimates
8,179,000
Original
Estimate
1922-23
89,991,000
S k e t c h E s t i m a t e s ,1923-24
85,468,100
Met d e c r e a s e shown on D e p a r t s
me n t s s Es t i m a t e
4 522,900
:
Further reductions
- in this Report..
recommended
8,179,000
Total reductions in
son w i t h .1922-23
t o which f a l l s
to
£8,000,000
the
with
t o be added a sum o f
if
Royal Warrant
the c o s t
of
effect
as
is given
to
to a reduction
corapari­
'
£12,701,900
from- £ 7 , 0 0 0 , 0 0 0
the
of
provisions
pensions
19 22
-7
r
of
£e^,
livings
(Signed)
11th O c t o b e r ,
5
1^WORTHING TOH-EYASS.
syjegRx.
R e - v i s e d B s t i i r a t e 19.23-4 s u b m i t t e d b y M i n i s t r y ,
P e n s i o n s showing- s u b s e q u e n t - v a r i a t i o n s .
jib-Eeacs.
Ministry *f
Pensions'
F i r s t Revised
' Estimates
1
Mi n i s t r y o f D e e r e a s e on Sub -.0 omPensipns''
First Remiftee ^
Second R e vised
Decision
vised
Estimate.
Estimates
.Total
Decrease
on o r i g i ­
nal Estimate.
1
£
11-3 Admn.
of
- -£ ­
100.000
.
2,9.76,00?
.2,876,000
-3 P e n s i o n s
(Officers,)
3,.400,000
3...400. 000
-Do-(Men)33,129,000
. 32,189,000
392,000
350,000
1-3 Widows
2,020,000
(Officers)
2^020,000
2,020,000
1-3 - D o - ( M e n ) 2 0 , 0 1 7 , 000
20,017,000
20,000,000
17,000
p.
Special
Grants
2,736,000
240,000
2,260,000
140,000
940,000
30,890,000
2,239,000
42,000
350,000
42,000
1-3 D e p t s .
(Men)
8,123,000
8,000,000
123,000
8,000,000
123,000
1-5 M e d l .
Services
1,88,6,000
1,641,000
245,0.00
1,640,000
246,000
I Treatment
.4,300,000
4.200.000
100.000
3.800.000
5 0 0 . 000
591,000
3,500,000
738,000
2,141,000
76,196,000
4,285,000
;H, 2. K.- 4 . T r e a t ­
lent A l l o w a n c e ^ , 2 3 8 , 000
for other
-heads, l e s s
Iropriations­
£80,481,000
.78,340,000
1,093,100
1,093,100
£81,574,100.
.79,433,100
2,141,000
x
7,046,000
. 193,000
72,385,100.
1,948,000
of
and a l l o w a n c e s w i t h
certain
*id
total
Intimate
3,647,000
notion cn
oimt o f f a l l
average c s s t
living under '
We from 1919
1922.
x
7,241,000
74,333,100
at
l/8th
pensions
-
1,093,100
77,289,100
4,285,000
4
x'
Calculated
. .:"
exceptions.
k
The r e d u c t i o n i n r e s p e c t o f c o s t o f l i v i n g i s a u t o m a t i c a l l y
d e c r e a s e d by t h e r e d u c t i o n , i n t h e e s t i m a t e s o f p e n s i o n s ' e t c .
REPORTS OE SUB-COMMITTEES.
;o.S. ) 11..
Chanoallor o f the
Sub-Comroittea.
(0,S.)
C h a n c e l l o r o f the E x c h e q u e r ^
Sub-Committee.
12.
1
Kindly attach
mentioned
Papers
Expenditure
the accompanying
to
(Civil
the Raport of
12th O c t o b e r .
19 2 2 .
S A l .
26s t
today.
Offica,
Stationary
Office.
copies
of
tho
t h e Committee
Departments),. Paper No.
which was c i r c u l a t e d
Whitehall C a r d a n s , .
ISxchaguer's
CP.
above­
on
4270,
DOCUMENT I S Tim PROPERTY OF H I S 3RITAHITIC 1'AJESTY'S GOVEREISI1JT)
C R E
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ii-
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COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL BXPE HP ITURE .
POST OFFICE ESTIMATES.
R e p o r t "by C h a n c e l l o r
Estimate
of
the
Exchequer
1922-23
£53.822,000
Provisional
E s t i m a t e 1923-24
51,769,470
Reduction..
1.
In view of
1923-24
it
is
.22,052,530
the u n c e r t a i n t y
difficult
months b e f o r e
the
to
forecast
commencement
the purpose
of
5% i n c r e a s e
i n volume
the e s t i m a t e
of
as
of
al
staff
in
over
the
possible
increased
We t h i n k t h a t p r o v i s i o n
account
estimate.
need not be i n c l u d e d
The q u e s t i o n
the present
financial
necessary,
on t h e
additional
staff
fuller
proves
than c o u n t e r b a l a n c i n g
budget.
for
estimate
for
A lump sum
for
the
Increased
of
addition­
business
stores
etc.
subheads.
increased
in
expenditure
the p r e s e n t
on t h e
there w i l l
revenue
the
close
readjusted,
then a v a i l a b l e .
to be necessary
on
sketch
towards
and. t h e E s t i m a t e s
information
increase
but
h a v e assumed a
can be r e c o n s i d e r e d
year
year,
1922-23..
the
for
so much as 6
requirements
has been i n c l u d e d under t h e v a r i o u s
of
Office
t h a t would be needed to h a n d l e
and a m a r g i n f o r
prospects
the f i n a n c i a l
business
5320,000, has been indnded
trade
traffic
the post
of
this
to
side
If
if
the
be a more
of
the
fi
2.
The a l l o c a t i o n
of
the
the P r o v i s i o n a l E s t i m a t e ,
reductions
ally
from the f a l l
living
Estimate
1922-23.
Salaries,
Wages &
Allowances.
t r a v e l l i n g &c
.Rent, O f f i c e
F i t t i n g s &c.
following
in
the
derived
on t h e r e d u c e d
shown i n t h e
Bonus
reductions,
are
automatic­
cost
of
table.
Other
variations
or
provsdonal
Estimate
1923-24.
33,542,724
2,135,640
-
450,684
30,956,400
236,400
3,200
-
13,200
220,000
-
13,200
55 6 , 0 0 0
100,000
100,000
-
6,732,202
total
ropriations
Aicl.
379,702
6,352,500
132,070
132,070
p.Stores, other
than E n g i n e e r i n g
materials
K. I n c i d e n t a l
expenses
ji.K.L. E n g i n e e r i n g
Programme
L Telephone
Capital
L Superannuation
&c .
0. P .0 . S a v i n g s
Banks.
Addition for
increase in
traffic,
ITote
are
&c.
to which
for
of
of M a i l s
lF.Rail7/ay C o y s .
for Telegraph
services,
total
extent
1922*23 f i g u r e s
569*200
p.Conveyance
.
and t h e
in s a l a r i e s
index f i g u r e ,
Subhead.
.Purchase
Sites
shown on t h e
expenditure provided
79,250
99 7,000
5,300
79 ,500
142,230
6,195,000
-f 7 1 8 , 1 8 5
129 ,250
4,207,000
2,277,000
-
1,076,250
84,800
6,312,770
260^000
3,488,815
2,219,750
72,000
1,350,513
70,260
55,845,494
2,541,100
1,974,573
52,700
£53,870,921
2,488,400
4­
78,253
1,202,000
-j-. 3 2 0 , 0 0 0
320,000
-
i
-
290,076
5 3 , 5 9 4 ,4 70
96,873
1.825 ,000
385,949
5 1 , 7 6 9 ,470
The f i g u r e i n t h e p u b l i s h e d e s t i m a t e s was £ 5 3 , 8 2 2 , 0 0 0 .
The i n c r e a s e o f £ 4 8 , 9 2 1 shown h e r e i s due t o t h e c o r r e c t i o n
o f a m i s c a l c u l a t i o n o f t h e amount t o be r e c o v e r e d f r o m t h e
Southern I r i s h Exchequer,
The r e d u c t i o n due
to
to
the f a l l
i n "bonus & c *
amounts
£2,488,400.
; Tba main i n c r e a s e s
;
viz.
are
in respect
on S u p e r a n n u a t i o n . (£1.2.9. 2 5 0 )
s
which b e a r s
tho loan
charges
and
of p a s t
commitments
on. subhead M
in respect
of
(.£718,.815)
the c a p i t a l
a d v a n c e d b y t h e N a t i o n a l Dtvbt C o m m i s s i o n e r s
for
sums
telephone
dev 9 l o p m e n t ,
e
3.
Ws -rave d i s c u s s e d , t h e P r o v i s i o n a l
representatives
of
t h a t , on f u r t h e r
examination
that
tho
the Post
Office
of
f allowing additional
Sub h e a d A
"
0
"
.
D
the E s t i m a t e s
St a f f .
Lighting
Heating'
and.
Purchaso
sites,
of
.­
£5,000
100 COO
3
Payments t o
Railways for
Telegraphs
12,000
Motor
20,000
Transport
IoKbLo-Engineeriiig
Pr0grammei
M,
considered
10,000
E
,r
is
can. be made
£o
3 00 ,..000
"
" '
it
informed
reductions
Eo2 R o a d C o n t r a c t s
C
with
and we a r e now
"
Tf
Estimates
Telophone
annuitios
250,000
12,000
£729,000
On t h e
othor
hand t h e
t o be r e q u i r e d
following
additional
: -.
Subhead E C o n v e y a n c e
of Parcel.Mails
.
"
sums a r e
"
Subhead. M-
Australian
Malls
Imperial
W i r e l e s s Chain
£100,000
8,000
95,OOP
£ 2 0 3 , COO
stated
The n e t
result
£526,000
of
on t h e
these
variations
is
a reduction
total
of
the P r o v i s i o n a l
two-thirds
of
the
of
Estimates!
Staffs
Eully
post
of
Office
is
required, f o r
current
expenditure
salaries,
wages
and
of
the
allowances
staff,
The numbers e m p l o y e d by- t h e l o s t
O f f i c e a re
as
follows Non­
j ndus t r i a l .
Total.
I n d u s t r i a 1,
1st
August,
1914.
191..500
19,65 0
211,150
1st
August,
192.1a
192,353
23,187
215,540
1st
December,
187,858
22,668
230,526
1st
April,
185,293
22,648
207,941
1st
August,
185,933
22,418
208,351
The number
period
April
19 2 2 .
19 2 2 .
ox
o:i: t w e l v e
last
to
has i n v o l v e d
The
postal
employees has
August
that
1,590
items are
In the p e r i o d
figures
as
employees have been
the r e d u c t i o n
a substantial
traffic
thus been r e d u c e d
months b y 7 , 1 8 9 *
1st
notwithstanding
1921.
increase
for
follows
of
in
postal
rates
t h e volume
Great B r i t a i n
for
the
in a
frem 1st
reduced
i n May
of
last
traffic-,
5 main
­
* 1921-22,
19 2 2 ^ 2 3 .
3,282,200,000
3,218,000,000
3,410,000,000
889,200,000
482,000,000
530,000,000
1,117,000,000
1,099,000,000
1,433,000,000
Kewspapers
184,100,000
173,500,000
179,000,000
Parcels
128,000,000
118,600,000
118,980,000
1913-14o
letters
Postcards
Printed
Papers
the
average
nearly
Increase
this
year over
1921-22 volume o f
door
and
indoor
amounting
but
the
to
postal
over
substantial
full,
output
in f a c t
less
reductions
and o f
the
present
postal
than b e f o r e
No s u b s t a n t i a l
decided
the
to
since
of
to
of
of
view
existing
and t h e m o n e t a r y
is
1921
re­
that
postal
hours
for
facilities
of
is
work
and
substantially
effect
effected
delivery
of
of
the
bonus.
unless
mails
in
that
the
it
the
country..
we a r e
economies
assured
on t h i s
The m o n e t a r y e f f e c t
of
improve organisation"-,, t o
and t o
stated
are
annum w i t h o u t
could be
organisation
to
eliminate
amount t o
score
the
is
kept
steps
increase
taken
the use
non-essential
£960,750 p e r
unde
of
checks
annum,
bonus.
Negotiations
?aave t a k e n p l a c e
employees'' associations
a higher
postal
Reductions
cannot be l o o k e d
now a v a i l a b l e
saving
the
appliances
and p r o c e s s e s
of
Office
£538,150 p e r
effecting
t h e war t o
without
out­
rendering further
staff
abandon t h e d a i l y
review..
mechanical
war,
further
As r e g a r d s
constant
in
organisation,
facilities
remoter d i s t r i c t s
possibility
a 5% r e d u c t i o n
staff.
c u r t a i l m e n t , amounts
were
in
continuance
The
on
now
The P o s t
the
the
that
b e e n made s i n c e A u g u s t
is
of
of
the view
could be e f f e c t e d .
in t r a f f i c
further
on t h e b a s i s
Traffic
staffs
£% h a v e
improvement
expressed
postal
d u c t i o n s more d i f f i c u l t ,
in
is
11,4$.
The Geddes C o m m i t t e e
the
t h e 1921-2 f i g u r e s
standard
of
and t e l e g r a p h
has been a g r e e d but
than any immediate
Ultimately
with
a view to
output
services *
it
is
saving
the e f f e c t
not
recently
with, the
securing
for.manipulative
the
work i n
An I m p r o v e d r a t e
considered by the
adoption
of
Post
can b e p r o d u c e d on t h i s
the
sorting
Office
accounts
shotxld b e a p p r e c i a b l e , . , e i t h e r
by
enabling/
enabling the existing staff In large towns to be reduced as
vacancies occur or by securing that an increased volume of
traffic will be handled without a corresponding increase in
staff.
We are informed that the question of the relationship
of staff to volume of traffic is under close and detailed
consideration by travelling Committees. We consider that In course of time a substantial
reduction in the cost of staff should be secured from the .
various measures which are now being taken by the Post Office.
On the facts available - at present we do not recommend
that the provision for staff in the Provisional Estimates
should be reduced beyond the'amounts offered by the Post
Office.
Before the estimates for 1923-4 are finally settled
however^ the question should be reconsidered in the light of
later information as to the actual expenditure incurred in the
current year.
Engineering Programme (Subheads
LEE-Lr)
The provision in the Provisional Estimates
(£6 195. 0 0 0 ) requires to be increased by £95,000 in respect of
;:
the Imperial Wireless Chain, consequent on a recent Government
decision regarding the Indian station, and to be reduced by
£250,000., the latter being a general reduction offered by the
Post OfCice on reconsideration of the Estimates *
We have been furnished with an allocation of this
expenditure
a
Telegraph construction requires £3-50, COO of which
£200,000 Is for the Imperial Wireless Chainc
A large part of
"the remainder Is merely in respect of continuation services
carried over from 1922-23-.,
Renewals and rearrangements account for £2.020,000 of
which £1,780/000 is for Telephones,.
Tfelntenance/
Maintenance accounts
£2,840,000
is- f o r
Repairs
of
of
stores
is
-/e u n d e r s t a n d
categories
conjectural
available
the
figures
that
the
point
date
must
of
which
account
the
estimates
be r e g a r d e d
to
under
£303,000
the
last
some e x t e n t
u n t i l more d e t a i l e d
do o r
it
is
not
do n o t
optional
the E n g i n e e r i n g
to
as
particulars
possible
include
to
signt
a margin
of
Programme
effecting
whether
for
We
and t h a t
should
become
say
but: n o t e s s e n t i a l - ,
s h o u l d n o t be l o s t
with a view
for
Telephones,
in the year
which i s
examination
later
that
submitted
expenditure
in Factories
for
and t h a t
later
of
Telephones,,
which £270,000
three
f o r £3,470,000
consider
a
further
be made a t
any r e d u c t i o n s
a
possible,,
T e l e phones
The P o s t
Office
to a considerable
service
which i s
required
loans
for
extent
£16,000^000,
in
the
showing
standpoint
and t h i s
present
capital
to
future
the'telephone
being
the
results
case
development
The
provided
from
it
of
the
not
provided
to
e x p a n s i o n may
service
from
is
are
is
we
revenue
desirable
that
the
the
for
necessary
national
generally-,
capital
Commissioners
of
telephone
directly
1022 and 1923
a reduced r a t e
satisfactory
the
Vote,
Whilst
curtail
of
expansion i s however
for
governed
Expenditure
c a n be f o u n d w i t h o u t d e t r i m e n t
finances
period
development
place,
requirements
understand
the
programme i s
from tho Post O f f i c e
The p r o b a b l e
be l o o k e d f o r
by t h e
now t a k i n g
telephone
and n o t
about
Engineering
is
borrowed
repaid at
15 y e a r s .
from the N a t i o n a l
present
Debt
by a n n u i t i e s
having a
Our a t t e n t i o n h a s b e e n d r a w n t o
/fact
the
fact
that
the p e r i o d
than the a v e r a g e
suggested
of
life
the a n n u i t i e s
is
considerably
of
the t e l e p h o n e
plant
t h a t the
period might,
i n present
stringency,
be l e n g t h e n e d
t o 20 y e a r s .
t o us
financial
of
and i t
less
has
been
conditions
We
-
understand
full
that
technical
justification
As r e g a r d s
Commissioners
as
which have
asked
to agree
interest
low
for
In respect
the
pre
affording
period.
the N a t i o n a l
of
Debt
Bank and
could not
period
w o u l d be
of
available
the Savings
the money,
corollary
is
annuities
trustees
lent
longer
t o an e x t e n d e d
other
properly
be
repayments
the r a i s i n g
of
Indeed
the r a t e
1916 a n n u i t i e s
of
contracted
at
rates.
As r e g a r d s
year
period,
under
future
which i s
annuities
not
Telegraph Acts*
the
annuities
the
the
existing
funds
a necessary
for
evidence
created
calendar
year
by a p p r o x i m a t e l y
in excess
next
1922 t h e
annual
under
of
that
the
the
in respect
of
subhead M
0
of
the
maximum
On t h e
expenditure
c h a r g e w o u l d be
and a r e d u c t i o n
20
statutory
s h o u l d be allowed,-.
in April
£120,000
w o u l d be p o s s i b l e
we t h i n k
in
reduced
to t h i s
extent
provisional
estimate.
Conclusion,
The
total
of
Provisional
the
reduced to £51,243,000
the
Post
traffic
the
Office,,
£120,000
of
at
of
for
staff
repayment
of
can be
will
we t h i n k ,
a later
date
savings agreed
provision
deducted,.
Telephone
can be d e d u c t e d f r o m s u b h e a d
The v o t e
should,
as a r e s u l t
3y e l i m i n a t i n g " the
£320,000
period
Estimates £51,769,000
Capital
subject
on t h e q u e s t i o n s
t
l
h
Chambers, S.W.
October,
1922.
(Signed)
annuities
to
possible
HORUE,
total
variation
above mentioned i n
R.S.
increased
extending
then stand at £50,803,000 which
be a d o p t e d
with
h.
Report,
py
By
for
is
this
*:
':.f
(THIS DOCUMENT I S THE PROPERTY OP HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY S
l
GOVERNMENT.
REGRET.
g.(O.S.)lg.
C A B I N E T .
COMMITTEE
ON
NATIONAL
EXPEIOITURE
STATIONERY OPEICE ESTIMATE.
REPORT BY THE CHANCELLOR OP THE EXCHEQUER ­
1913-14
Actual Expenditure
.
£1,059,724.
1921-22
Estimate
£4,119,944 x
1922-23
Estimate
£2,654,937
1923-24
Sketch Estimate
...
X
£2,108,640.^
E x c l u d i n g s u p p l i e s to l i q u i d a t i o n Denartments 1921-22,
£ 6 7 , 0 0 0 ; 1 9 2 2 - 2 3 £ 2 5 , 0 0 0 ; and 1 9 2 3 - 2 4 £ 7 , 5 0 0 *
1.
The S k e t c h E s t i m a t e
21*35/0.
It
ments o f
the public
£309,297 or
fall
in
be
calculated
ll-g$u
that
service
the
price
the
for
of p a p e r ,
reduotion
stationery
The r e m a i n i n g
i n wages i n t h e p r i n t i n g
Servants
2.
is
shows a r e d u c t i o n
the r e d u c t i o n
in
£563,797
i n the
is
due t o
trades,
is
the
the
t h e bonus o f
or
require
and p r i n t i n g
reduction
and b i n d i n g
of
fall
Civil
etc.
The s e r v i c e s
classified
as
provided
for
in
the Sketch Estimate
may
under:-
Service.
Estimate
1922-23.
f
Sketch Estimate
1925-24.
Administration.
£492,937
£47 7,140
Parliamentary Printing
and S t a t i o n e r y ,
£140,000
£133,000
£24,600
£23,500
£420,000
.£350,000
£1,021,500
£809,000
£2,099,037
£1,792,640
Gazettes,
R e p r e s e n t a t i o n o f the
People Act Expenditure
Office requirements for
P u b l i c Departments,
Servioe.
Estimate,
B/F
£2,099,037.
P r i n t i n g for Public
Departments,
Gross T o t a l
Set
864,300
£865,000
£251.700
£3,454,937
£2,908,640
£800,000
Total
...
3,
Stationery
for
incurred
total
result
Office
for
present
their
the
State
on t h e
Factory
at
on p r i n t i n g ,
of
and - i t
found
£351,000
is
Works *
by the
Treasury
in.their
Vote
This
stability
with t h e i r
Printing-
the Vote,
is
possible
depends
when
in
is
appears t o
the
Estimate
figures
that
the
the
have
firms
actual
level
The
of
reached
have n o t
pro- ,
certain
January.
in the provinces,
wages
a
con­
b u t up t o
the
succeeded
in
appeared
in
employees.
Criticisms
Trading Account
the
considered
in preparation
C o m p t r o l l e r .and A u d i t o r
Press
and
£.626,700
to a reduction
London p r i n t i n g
negotiations
4.
the
time
may be
Trade.
of temporary
£1,394,600
. .,
Printing
remainder
which t h i s
in the P r i n t i n g
dition
agreed
1923-24 a r e
main f a c t o r . o n
...
representations
examined,
reductions
estimates
State
is, . . .
by £ 3 4 , 9 1 2 .
As r e g a r d s t h e
further
....
expenditure
of
have
Administration
posed have been
£800,000
£2,108,640
on P r i n t i n g
......
the d i f f e r e n t
As t h e
.
£2,654,937
...
Of t h e
expended at
£1,908,640
in
The e x p e n d i t u r e
on P a p e r
Estimate
£1,090,900
Stationery Office
Publications
Appropriations
"Aid
Sketch
have
recently
G e n e r a l ^ Report,
of
the Government
H a r r o w b a s e d on two p o i n t s
-
(a)
and i n
the
Printing
that
the
accounto
a t H a r r o w showed a l o s s
(b)
ti at
work i s
which i t
open
of £32,839
assigned t o Harrow a t p r i c e s
could be placed by a c c e p t i n g
Committee
on P u b l i c a t i o n s
which has n o t
yet
in
£161,674;
above
lowest
(l)
the
those
tender
at
in
the
prises
the
of
loss
I
It
is
profit
initial
troubles
at
the
a smaller
financial
be
loss,
in the
in
period
of
the
enter­
on t h e i r
shown f o r
possibly
£20,000
the t w e l v e
Returns
year
are
for
the f i r s t
however
stated
i n q u e s t i o n was one o f
The p e r i o d
in respect
-
it
done e v e n w o r s e volume o f
­
start.
(2)
trade
is
attendant
basis.
printing
Session,
n i n e months
on a c o m m e r c i a l
difficulty
Select
months
1922.
The m o n t h l y P r o g r e s s
current
these charges
the
bad r e s u l t s
on a £ 2 0 0 , 0 0 0 t u r n o v e r w i l l
the
last
a common e x p e r i e n c e
the
am i n f o r m e d t h a t
March 1921-March
for
t o was i n c u r r e d
i.e.
kind t h a t
l a u n c h i n g produce
to
referred
Factory.
this
t o by the
appeared.
1920 t o March 1 9 2 1 ,
work o f
referred
t h e i r Report
The D e p a r t m e n t s r e p l y
of
the
of
market.
The m a t t e r may be f u r t h e r
June
on a t u r n o v e r
of
is
(a)unexampled
believed
and ( b )
Government p r i n t i n g
t o show a
quite
depression
t h a t many p r i v a t e
a very
great
4 months
reduction
as a r e s u l t
of
that
full
abnormal
in
the
firms
in
have
the
measures
of
retrenchment.
It
these
is
frankly
adverse
ment o f
admitted
faotors
f3)
representing
at t h a t
Work i s
the
had b e e n f o r e s e e n
a Government P r i n t i n g
been u n d e r t a k e n
if
1920 t h e
of
experi­
/orks w o u l d p r o b a b l y n o t
have
time.
given
the a v e r a g e
v
in
effect
t o t h e Harrow f a c t o r y
oost o f
such w o r k i f
at. a
put
out
price
t o . the
trade.
( 4 ) On/
(4)
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important,
and i s b e l i e v e d t o h a v e a l r e a d y effected c o n s i d e r a b l e economy.
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taken as
an, e x p e r i m e n t a l
a decision
The
This
year,
future
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that
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to
terminates in June 1 0 2 3 ,
commercial
account f o r
known i n May
or June
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period
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that
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the
next
opinion
that
the
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of
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fi.
date.
losses
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future,
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there
to w h e t h e r t o continue o r
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an
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period
recommend t h a t
definitely
profit
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f i n a n c i a l .year
and I
period
experiemntal
approximate
current
the
should
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Factory p r o v i d e d t h a t
a Government P r i n t i n g
should be
stop.
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