(c) crown copyright Catalogue Reference:CAB/65/7/23 Image Reference:0001 THIS DOCUMENT IS THE PROPERTY OF HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTVS GOVERNMENT Printed for the War Cabinet. 1 May 1940. SECRET. Copy N o . W.M. (40) 128th Conclusions. TO B E K E P T UNDER LOCK AND KEY. I t is r e q u e s t e d t h a t special care may be t a k e n to ensure the secrecy of this document. 128 ( 4 0 ) . WAR CABINET CONCLUSIONS of a Meeting of the War Cabinet held at 10 Downing S.W. 1, on Saturday, May 18, 1940, at 5-30 P . M . Street, Present: T h e R i g h t H o n . W I N S T O N S. C H U R C H I L L , M . P . , P r i m e M i n i s t e r (in the Chair). T h e R i g h t Hon. N E V I L L E CHAMBERLAIN, M . P . , L o r d P r e s i d e n t of t h e Council. T h e R i g h t H o n . C. R. A T T L E E , M . P . , The Right Hon. VISCOUNT HALIFAX, Secretary of S t a t e for F o r e i g n Affairs. T h e R i g h t H o n . A . GREENWOOD, M . P . , L o r d P r i v y Seal. Minister without Portfolio. T h e following w e r e also p r e s e n t : The R i g h t H o n . S i r J O H N ANDERSON, M . P . , S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e for the H o m e D e p a r t m e n t a n d M i n i s t e r of H o m e Security. The Right Hon. LORD HANKEY, Chancellor of t h e Duchy of L a n c a s t e r . The Sir Hon. Sir ALEXANDER CADOGAN, P e r m a n e n t t J n d e r - S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e for F o r e i g n Affairs. THOMAS Secretariat. Sir EDWARD BRIDGES. Group Captain W . ELLIOT. M r . D. H . F . R I C K E T T . (21299 I PHILLIPS, Permanent Secretary, M i n i s t e r of L a b o u r , WAR CABINET 128 (40). CONTENTS. Minute No. Subject. Page 1 T h e W a r Effort Need for additional powers. 177 2 Civil Defence M e a s u r e s ... ... ... ... ... Dispersal of persons resident in the immediate neighbourhood of specific targets. 177 3 I n v a s i o n of G r e a t B r i t a i n ... Aliens and the Fifth Column. 177 ... ... ... ... The War Effort. 1. The Lord President of the Council m a d e a n oral s t a t e m e n t Need for in r e g a r d to c e r t a i n a d d i t i o n a l powers w h i c h i t m i g h t be necessary additional to confer on the Government in t h e event of the t h r e a t of a t t a c k powers. on t h i s country becoming i m m i n e n t . A p r e l i m i n a r y discussion took place, t h e m a i n p o i n t s of which a r e recorded i n the S e c r e t a r y ' s S t a n d a r d File of W a r C a b i n e t Conclusions. The War Cabinet:— I n v i t e d the L o r d P r e s i d e n t of t h e Council to c o n t i n u e h i s consultations w i t h the M i n i s t e r s a n d Departments concerned, w i t h a view to the p r e p a r a t i o n of a d e t a i l e d scheme which could be a p p l i e d if circumstances should r e n d e r this necessary. Civil Defence Measures. Dispersal of persons resident in the immediate neighbourhood of specific targets. (Previous Reference: W.M. (40) 118th Conclusions, i inu e .) 2. T h e W a r C a b i n e t h a d before t h e m a N o t e by t h e L o r d P r e s i d e n t of t h e Council covering a M e m o r a n d u m by t h e H o m e S e c r e t a r y on t h e d i s p e r s a l of persons r e s i d e n t in the i m m e d i a t e neighbourhood of specific t a r g e t s ( W . P . (G.) (40) 130). y / £ £ President of the Council d r e w a t t e n t i o n to t h e first recommendation, namely, t h a t no a t t e m p t should be m a d e to a r r a n g e f v o l u n t a r y dispersal of p o p u l a t i o n u n t i l there h a d been such a i r a t t a c k on t h i s country a s would b r i n g home clearly to people the d a n g e r s to which they were exposed. E v e n t s on t h e C o n t i n e n t m i g h t have a r a p i d a n d considerable effect u p o n public opinion in t h i s respect. p Minister t h o u g h t t h a t t h e G e r m a n s would n o t a d o p t p i j y £ i n d i s c r i m i n a t e bombing. T h e i r action in N o r w a y a n d P o l a n d could n o t be t a k e n as a guide. I n a t t a c k i n g this country they would find i t f a r more profitable to concentrate on specific military targets. i e o r c or T a 0 h C e r i m g 0 The Home Secretary s a i d t h a t he h a d a r r a n g e d for public feeling to be continuously tested a n d for persuasion to be a p p l i e d both by school-teachers a n d by civil defence officials. So f a r t h e response h a d been small. I t w a s essential to secure the co-operation both of p a r e n t s of children to be evacuated, a n d of householders in t h e reception areas. P r e p a r a t i o n s h a d been m a d e to deal w i t h t h e h u r r i e d exodus of t h e population w h i c h m i g h t take place if bombing w a s heavy. T h e W a r Cabinet a g r e e d :— To request the H o m e Secretary to w a t c h t h e s i t u a t i o n from day to day a n d to take the a c t i o n recommended i n para­ g r a p h 4 of his M e m o r a n d u m as soon as he w a s satisfied t h a t t h e r e would be a favourable response from the public. Invasion of Great Britain. Aliens and the Fifth Column. (Previous Reference: W.M. (40) 123rd Conclusions, Minute 15.) 3. T h e W a r C a b i n e t h a d before t h e m a M e m o r a n d u m by the H o m e Secretary on " I n v a s i o n of G r e a t B r i t a i n : possible co-operation of a F i f t h C o l u m n " ( W . P . (G.) (40) 131). The Home Secretary explained t h e steps which h a d a l r e a d y been t a k e n in r e g a r d to enemy aliens. I n the discussion w h i c h ensued on t h e various f u r t h e r measures of i n t e r n m e n t dealt w i t h i n the M e m o r a n d u m , the following p o i n t s w e r e m a d e :-— (1) T h e task of p i c k i n g u p a n d s o r t i n g out aliens imposed a very heavy b u r d e n on the Police, who m u s t not be asked to c a r r y too heavy a b u r d e n a t a n y given moment. WAR CABINET 128 (40). CONTENTS. Minute No. Subject. Page 1 T h e W a r Effort Need for additional powers. 177 2 Civil Defence Measures ... ... ... ... ... Dispersal of persons resident in the immediate neighbourhood of specific targets. 177 3 I n v a s i o n of G r e a t B r i t a i n ... Aliens and the Fifth Column. 177 ... ... ... ... The War Effort. 1. The Lord President of the Council m a d e a n o r a l s t a t e m e n t Need for i n r e g a r d t o c e r t a i n a d d i t i o n a l p o w e r s w h i c h i t m i g h t be necessary additional to confer on the G o v e r n m e n t i n t h e event of the t h r e a t of a t t a c k powers. on t h i s c o u n t r y becoming i m m i n e n t . A p r e l i m i n a r y discussion took place, t h e m a i n p o i n t s of which a r e r e c o r d e d i n t h e S e c r e t a r y ' s S t a n d a r d F i l e of W a r C a b i n e t Conclusions. The W a r Cabinet:- I n v i t e d t h e L o r d P r e s i d e n t of t h e Council to c o n t i n u e h i s consultations with the Ministers and Departments concerned, w i t h a view to t h e p r e p a r a t i o n of a detailed scheme w h i c h could b e a p p l i e d if c i r c u m s t a n c e s should r e n d e r t h i s necessary. Civil Defence Measures. Dispersal of persons resident in the immediate neighbourhood of specific targets. 2. T h e W a r P r e s i d e n t of t h e S e c r e t a r y on t h e n e i g h b o u r h o o d of C a b i n e t h a d before t h e m a N o t e by t h e L o r d Council covering a M e m o r a n d u m by t h e H o m e d i s p e r s a l of p e r s o n s r e s i d e n t i n t h e i m m e d i a t e specific t a r g e t s ( W . P . (G.) (40) 130). The Lord President of the Council d r e w a t t e n t i o n to the first r e c o m m e n d a t i o n , namely, t h a t n o a t t e m p t should be m a d e to a r r a n g e for v o l u n t a r y d i s p e r s a l of p o p u l a t i o n u n t i l t h e r e h a d been such a i r a t t a c k on t h i s c o u n t r y as would b r i n g home clearly to people the (Previous d a n g e r s to w h i c h t h e y w e r e exposed. E v e n t s o n t h e C o n t i n e n t m i g h t Reference: have a r a p i d a n d considerable effect u p o n p u b l i c o p i n i o n in t h i s W.M. (40) 118th respect. Conclusions, Minute 5.) The Prime Minister t h o u g h t t h a t t h e G e r m a n s would n o t a d o p t a policy of i n d i s c r i m i n a t e bombing. T h e i r a c t i o n i n N o r w a y a n d P o l a n d could n o t be t a k e n as a g u i d e . I n a t t a c k i n g t h i s country they w o u l d find i t f a r more profitable to c o n c e n t r a t e on specific military targets. The Home Secretary said t h a t h e h a d a r r a n g e d for public feeling to be continuously tested a n d for p e r s u a s i o n to be a p p l i e d both by school-teachers a n d by civil defence officials. So f a r the response h a d been small. I t w a s essential to secure t h e co-operation both of p a r e n t s of c h i l d r e n to be evacuated, a n d of householders in the r e c e p t i o n a r e a s . P r e p a r a t i o n s h a d been m a d e to deal w i t h t h e h u r r i e d exodus of t h e p o p u l a t i o n w h i c h m i g h t take place if b o m b i n g w a s heavy. T h e W a r C a b i n e t a g r e e d :— T o r e q u e s t the H o m e S e c r e t a r y to w a t c h t h e s i t u a t i o n from d a y to d a y a n d to t a k e t h e a c t i o n recommended i n para­ g r a p h 4 of h i s M e m o r a n d u m a s soon as he w a s satisfied t h a t t h e r e w o u l d be a f a v o u r a b l e r e s p o n s e from t h e public. Invasion of Great Britain, Aliens and the Fifth Column. 3. T h e W a r C a b i n e t h a d before them a M e m o r a n d u m by the H o m e S e c r e t a r y on " I n v a s i o n of G r e a t B r i t a i n : possible co-operation of a F i f t h C o l u m n " ( W . P . (G.) (40) 131). The Home Secretary explained the steps which h a d already (Previous been t a k e n i n r e g a r d to enemy aliens. Reference: I n t h e discussion w h i c h ensued on the v a r i o u s f u r t h e r measures W.M. (40) 123rd of i n t e r n m e n t d e a l t w i t h in the M e m o r a n d u m , t h e following p o i n t s Conclusions, were m a d e :— Minute 15.) (1) T h e t a s k of p i c k i n g u p a n d s o r t i n g o u t aliens imposed a very heavy b u r d e n on t h e Police, who m u s t n o t be asked to c a r r y too heavy a b u r d e n a t a n y given moment. (2) I n t h i s connection, t h e P o l i c e a l r e a d y h a d a very heavy t a s k on h a n d in d e a l i n g w i t h 100,000 refugees who were on t h e i r w a y to t h i s country, mostly from Belgium. The H o m e S e c r e t a r y r e g r e t t e d t h a t we h a d a l r e a d y under­ t a k e n to receive a n o t h e r 100,000 refugees, b u t he hoped t h a t t h i s n u m b e r m i g h t be c u t down. A n y G e r m a n s f o u n d in t h e batches of refugees r e a c h i n g t h i s country would a t once be i n t e r n e d on a r r i v a l . (3) If w a r broke o u t w i t h I t a l y , i t w a s proposed to i n t e r n all male I t a l i a n s who h a d been less t h a n 20 y e a r s i n this c o u n t r y a n d such B r i t i s h I t a l i a n s as w e r e members of the Fascist P a r t y . (4) T h e H o m e S e c r e t a r y t h o u g h t t h a t , if it w a s felt to be desirable to impose some f u r t h e r r e s t r i c t i o n s on enemy aliens, t h i s should t a k e t h e form of i m p o s i n g further r e s t r i c t i o n s on e x e m p t e d enemy aliens who lived outside t h e special m i l i t a r y zone, subject to exceptions in p a r t i c u l a r cases. I f t h i s course were a d o p t e d , t h e same r e s t r i c t i o n s should also be imposed on non-enemy aliens who h a d been here for less t h a n five y e a r s . (5) T h e e x t e n t of t h e d a n g e r to be a p p r e h e n d e d from women refugees w a s open to a r g u m e n t . T h e H o m e Secretary was, however, p r e p a r e d to i n t e r n all women enemy aliens in category B as soon a s t h e necessary o r g a n i s a t i o n had been established to cope w i t h them. (6) T h e question w a s r a i s e d w h e t h e r t h e u p p e r a g e l i m i t of 60 w a s a p p r o p r i a t e , seeing t h a t men above t h i s a g e m i g h t well be actively e n g a g e d in o r g a n i s i n g enemy activities. (7) I n r e g a r d to B r i t i s h F a s c i s t s , the H o m e S e c r e t a r y explained a t l e n g t h t h e difficulty of t a k i n g a n y effective action in the absence of evidence w h i c h i n d i c a t e d t h a t the o r g a n i s a t i o n a s such w a s e n g a g e d in disloyal activities. (8) T h e view w a s expressed t h a t t h e position in E i r e w a s a very d a n g e r o u s one. T h e difficulty w a s to see how to deal w i t h it, f a i l i n g some easement of t h e r e l a t i o n s between the North and South. The Prime Minister summed u p the discussion by s a y i n g t h a t he t h o u g h t t h e general view of t h e W a r C a b i n e t w a s t h a t it would be desirable to stiffen u p t h e m e a s u r e s a l r e a d y t a k e n . T h e H o m e S e c r e t a r y w a s i n v i t e d to review the m a t t e r in c o n s u l t a t i o n w i t h the L o r d P r i v y Seal a n d the M i n i s t e r w i t h o u t P o r t f o l i o , i n t h e l i g h t of t h e above discussion, a n d to r e p o r t a g a i n to t h e W a r C a b i n e t w i t h i n a w e e k ' s time. Richmond Terrace, S.W. May 18, 1940. 1,