(c) crown copyright Catalogue Reference:CAB/65/19/27 Image Reference:0001 THIS DOCUMENT IS T H E PROPERTY OF H I S BRITANNIC MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT . Printed for the War Cabinet. September 1941. SECBET. Copy N o . W.M. (41) 91st Conclusions. TO B E K E P T UNDER LOCK AND KEY. It is requested that special care m a y be taken to ensure the secrecy of this document. W A R C A B I N E T 91 ( 4 1 ) . CONCLUSIONS of a Meeting of the War Cabinet held at 1 0 , Downing S.W. 1 , on Monday, September 8. 1 9 4 1 , at 5 P . M . Street, Present: T h e E i g h t H o n . W I N S T O N S. C H U R C H I L L , M . P . , P r i m e M i n i s t e r (in the Chair). The R i g h t Hon. S i r J O H N ANDERSON, L o r d P r i v y Seal. M . P . , L o r d P r e s i d e n t of t h e Council. The R i g h t H o n . ANTHONY EDEN, M.P., The R i g h t H o n . A. GREENWOOD, M.P., S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e f o r F o r e i g n Minister without Portfolio. Affairs. The R i g h t H o n . L O R D BEAVERBROOK, T h e R i g h t H o n . S i r K I N G S L E Y W O O D , M i n i s t e r of S u p p l y . M . P . , C h a n c e l l o r of t h e E x c h e q u e r . The Right Hon. ERNEST BEVIN, M.P., M i n i s t e r of L a b o u r a n d N a t i o n a l Service. T h e R i g h t H o n . C. R . A T T L E E , M . P . , T h e following w e r e also p r e s e n t : The Right H o n . H E R B E R T MORRISON, M . P . , S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e f o r t h e H o m e D e p a r t m e n t a n d M i n i s t e r of Home Security. T h e R i g h t H o n . V i s c o u n t CRANBORNE. Secretary of State for Dominion Affairs. The R i g h t The Right H o n . L . S. A M E R Y , M.P., S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e f o r I n d i a a n d S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e f o r B u r m a . The R i g h t H o n . A . V . ALEXANDER, M . P . , F i r s t L o r d of t h e A d m i r a l t y . Hon. LORD MOYNE, Secre- t a r y of S t a t e for t h e Colonies. Captain The Right Hon. H . D. M A R G E S S O N , M . P . , S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e for W a r . The Right SINCLAIR, Hon. Bt., Sir M.P., ARCHIBALD Secretary of State for A i r . \ The R i g h t H o n . LORD LEATHERS, M i n i s t e r of W a r T r a n s p o r t . (Item 9.) The R i g h t H o n . S i r D O N A L D S O M E R VELL, M . P . , A t t o r n e y - G e n e r a l (Item Mr. H A R C O U R T J O H N S T O N E , M . P . , Secret a r y , D e p a r t m e n t of O v e r s e a s T r a d e (Item 9 ) . [22901] 142 The R i g h t H o n . S i r A N D R E W DUNCAN, M . P . , P r e s i d e n t of t h e B o a r d o f T r a d e . (Items 7 a n d 8.) T h e R i g h t H o n . B R E N D A N BRACKEN^ M.P., Minister of Information. The R i g h t H o n . J A M E S STUART, M . P . , Joint Parliamentary T r e a s u r y (Item 1 0 ) . Mr. GEOFFREY LLOYD, M.P., for P e t r o l e u m (Items Secretary, Secretary 7 and 8). 4 3 A d m i r a l of t h e F l e e t S i r D U D L E Y P O U N D , F i r s t S e a L o r d a n d C h i e f of N a v a l Staff. G e n e r a l S i r J O H N D I L L , C h i e f of t h e I m p e r i a l G e n e r a l Staff. A i r Chief M a r s h a l S i r CHARLES F . A . P O R T A L , C h i e f of t h e A i r Staff. Sir O R M E SARGENT, D e p u t y UnderS e c r e t a r y of S t a t e , F o r e i g n Office. Secretariat. Colonel L . C. H O L L I S . Mr. W . D . WILKINSON. Mr. L . F. BURGIS. WAR C A B I N E T 91 (41). CONTENTS. Minute No. Subject. Page. 1. Naval, Military and Air Operations .... .... Air Operations: Egypt. High altitude bombing of enemy occupied territory. Naval Operations: Shipping losses. Military Operations: U.S.S.R. Middle East. .... 17 2. U n i t e d S t a t e s of A m e r i c a .... .... German attacks on United States ships. The Greer. Steel Seafarer. .... 18 3. Middle E a s t Yugoslavia. 18 4. Persia .... .... .... .... Negotiations with the Persian Government regarding the handing over of Germans. 18 5. U.S.S.R The Prime Ministers reply to M. Stalin's message. Supplies. Aluminium. Need for increased production in the United Kingdom. The Moscow Meeting. Discussions on strategy. 19 6. Atlantic Charter Interpetation of Point I I I . 20 7. Mexico Resumption of diplomatic relations and settlement of the oil dispute. 20 8. Petroleum Recording of journeys by motorists holding supplementary petrol rations. 20 9. T h e B l a c k - o u t .... .... Report of Inter-Departmental Committee. , 21 10. .... .... .... ' Parliament ..... .... .... .... .... .... Detention of a Member under Defence Regulation 18B. .... 21 Naval, Military and Air Operations. (Previous Bef erence: W.M. (41) 89th Conclusions, Minute 1.) Air Operations. Egypt. High Altitude Bombing of EnemyOccupied Territory. (Previous Reference: W.M. (41) 85th Conclusions, Minute 2.) 1. The Chiefs of Staff g a v e t h e f o l l o w i n g i n f o r m a t i o n amplification of C a b i n e t W a r R o o m R e c o r d s Nos. 7 3 3 - 7 3 6 : — in S u m m a r y of a i r c r a f t losses since t h e 4 t h S e p t e m b e r :— Home Theatre— Enemy— 14 d e s t r o y e d . 12 p r o b a b l e . 7 damaged. Our Own— 13 F i g h t e r s (2 P i l o t s safe). 31 B o m b e r s . Overseas Theatres— Enemy— 18 d e s t r o y e d . 14 p r o b a b l e . 18 d a m a g e d . Our Own— 6 destroyed. 11 d a m a g e d (10 of t h i s n u m b e r h a v i n g been d a m a g e d ' on t h e g r o u n d ) . O n t h e p r e v i o u s n i g h t w e h a d m a d e o u r h e a v i e s t r a i d so f a r on B e r l i n . Of 198 a i r c r a f t d e s p a t c h e d , a b o u t 150 h a d a c t u a l l y r e a c h e d t h e objective. Of t h e 20 a i r c r a f t m i s s i n g d u r i n g t h e n i g h t ' s o p e r a ­ tions, 18 h a d been d e t a i l e d for B e r l i n . O u r bombers h a d destroyed 2 e n e m y fighters a n d p r o b a b l y a t h i r d . A n e w i n c e n d i a r y bomb h a d been u s e d for t h e first t i m e w i t h success. T h a t m o r n i n g 4 F l y i n g F o r t r e s s B o m b e r s h a d been d e s p a t c h e d to a t t a c k t h e A dmiral Scheer a t Oslo. U n f o r t u n a t e l y , t h r e e of t h e s e m a c h i n e s h a d been lost, t w o of t h e m o w i n g t o e n e m y action, t h e t h i r d h a v i n g crashed on landing. A n investigation into the matter w a s being made. D u r i n g t h e n i g h t of t h e 6 t h / 7 t h S e p t e m b e r , w h e n t h e e n e m y h a d a t t a c k e d A b u S u e i r a n d I s m a i l i a , o u r n i g h t fighters h a d destroyed t w o e n e m y a i r c r a f t , p l u s one p r o b a b l e a n d one d a m a g e d . I n home w a t e r s o u r a i r c r a f t h a d s u n k t h r e e m e r c h a n t vessels a n d one flak s h i p , a n d i n t h e M i d d l e E a s t five m e r c h a n t s h i p s a n d one d e s t r o y e r . A n e n e m y s u b m a r i n e h a d a l s o p r o b a b l y been h i t . I n a n s w e r to a question, the Chief of the Air Staff s a i d t h a t , i n a c c o r d a n c e w i t h t h e C a b i n e t ' s decision, i n s t r u c t i o n s h a d been g i v e n t h a t t h e r e should be n o i n d i s c r i m i n a t e h i g h - a l t i t u d e b o m b i n g over enemy-occupied f r i e n d l y c o u n t r i e s . Naval D u r i n g t h e p r e v i o u s f o u r d a y s 20,000 t o n s of o u r s h i p p i n g h a d Operations. been sunk, i n c l u d i n g 12,000 b y enemy a i r a c t i o n . A i r c r a f t h a d Shipping Losses. d a m a g e d 13,000 t o n s . 107,000 t o n s of s h i p p i n g h a d been s u n k during August. A n enemy s u b m a r i n e h a d been s u n k b y a d e s t r o y e r i n t h e Atlantic that morning. H . M . C r u i s e r s Aurora a n d Nigeria h a d had an action w i t h e n e m y forces i n a N o r w e g i a n fiord on t h e p r e v i o u s m o r n i n g , s i n k i n g t h e Bremse, a s m a l l d e s t r o y e r , a t r a w l e r a n d one o t h e r vessel. Military N o r t h of K i e v t h e G e r m a n p i n c e r m o v e m e n t s s o u t h f r o m Operations. C h e r n i g o v a n d n o r t h - e a s t from t h e b r i d g e h e a d n e a r G a r n o s t a i p o l U.S.S.E. w e r e closing, t h o u g h t h e R u s s i a n s m i g h t w e l l h a v e been able t o [22901] B 2 Middle East. w i t h d r a w t h e b u l k of t h e i r forces f r o m t h i s s a l i e n t . On t h e D n i e p e r t h e G e r m a n s w e r e t h r u s t i n g n o r t h from t h e b r i d g e h e a d a t K r e m e n t s e h u g in t h e d i r e c t i o n of L u b n i , a n d m i g h t j o i n u p w i t h t h e G e r m a n forces p r e s s i n g s o u t h from Obolonje. T h e y m i g h t t h u s c u t off R u s s i a n t r o o p s i n t h e K i e v sector. N e i t h e r t h e W a r Office n o r t h e A i r M i n i s t r y h a d a n y confirma­ t i o n of t h e s t a t e m e n t m a d e by M . S t a l i n i n h i s t e l e g r a m t o t h e P r i m e M i n i s t e r , d a t e d t h e 3 r d September, to t h e effect t h a t 3 0 - 3 4 fresh G e r m a n d i v i s i o n s a n d a n u m b e r of t a n k s a n d a i r c r a f t h a d been t r a n s f e r r e d f r o m t h e W e s t to t h e E a s t e r n F r o n t . T h e r e h a d been m o r e evidence t h a t t h e G e r m a n s w e r e p l a n n i n g a combined o p e r a t i o n i n t h e B l a c k Sea. T w o n e w G e r m a n divisions h a d r e a c h e d t h e B a l k a n s from G e r m a n y . I t w a s t h o u g h t t h a t a n a d d i t i o n a l I t a l i a n m o t o r i s e d division h a d a r r i v e d a t T r i p o l i . T h e r e h a d a l s o been a n unconfirmed r e p o r t t h a t a L o r r i e d I n f a n t r y R e g i m e n t of t h e G e r m a n 5 t h A r m o u r e d D i v i s i o n h a d been issued w i t h t r o p i c a l e q u i p m e n t . T h e W a r C a b i n e t took n o t e of t h e above s t a t e m e n t s . United States of 2. The First Sea Lord g a v e p a r t i c u l a r s of t h e a t t a c k by a America. U - b o a t on t h e U n i t e d S t a t e s d e s t r o y e r Greer on t h e 4 t h September. German Attacks on United States Ships. The Greer. Steel Seafarer. The Foreign Secretary r e f e r r e d t o t h e s i n k i n g of t h e Steel Seafarer by e n e m y a i r c r a f t a t t h e e n t r a n c e to t h e G u l f of Suez on t h e n i g h t of t h e 5 t h / 6 t h September. A i r b l o c k a d e w a s u n k n o w n to international law, and the U n i t e d States Government would appear t o h a v e a good case for d e m a n d i n g r e d r e s s . Middle East. 3. T h e W a r C a b i n e t discussed t h e m i l i t a r y s i t u a t i o n in the (Previous Middle East. Reference: A full r e c o r d of t h e discussion is c o n t a i n e d i n t h e S e c r e t a r y ' s W.M. (41) 73rd S t a n d a r d F i l e of W a r C a b i n e t Conclusions. Conclusions, The Prime Minister s u g g e s t e d t h a t t h e p a r t p l a y e d by Minute 2.) Y u g o s l a v i a , a n d i n p a r t i c u l a r G e n e r a l Simovitch, in d e l a y i n g the Yugoslavia. G e r m a n p l a n a n d m a k i n g t h e G e r m a n s fight for t h e i r success should n o t be overlooked. E n c o u r a g i n g references a b o u t Y u g o s l a v i a s h o u l d be m a d e in t h e P r e s s f r o m t i m e t o t i m e , a n d w e s h o u l d do e v e r y t h i n g possible to r e - e q u i p Y u g o s l a v forces w h i c h w e r e fighting on o u r side. Persia. Negotiations 4. The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs s a i d t h a t the P e r s i a n G o v e r n m e n t h a d n o t y e t s e n t a definite r e p l y t o o u r demands with the Persian Government regarding the handing over of Germans. (Previous Reference: "W.M. (41) 89th Conclusions, Minute 2.) t h a t t h e G e r m a n c o m m u n i t y should be h a n d e d over t o u s . I t looked a s t h o u g h t h e y w e r e m a k i n g every effort t o s p i n o u t t h e discussions, w o u l d be v e r y u n s a t i s f a c t o r y if o n l y a l i m i t e d n u m b e r of Germans were rounded up, and the rest got away. A t t e n t i o n w a s d r a w n t o A n g o r a t e l e g r a m N o . 2176, which r e p o r t e d a G e r m a n - t h r e a t t h a t , if w e i n t e r n e d t h e G e r m a n s in P e r s i a , G e r m a n y w o u l d i n t e r n B r i t i s h s u b j e c t s i n t h e Channel I s l a n d s . D o u b t s w e r e e x p r e s s e d w h e t h e r i t w a s necessary to pay m u c h a t t e n t i o n t o t h i s c o m m u n i c a t i o n , so f a r a s o u r P e r s i a n policy s concerned. ^ A d i s c u s s i o n followed, w h i c h is r e c o r d e d i n t h e Secretary's S t a n d a r d F i l e of W a r C a b i n e t Conclusions. x t w a U.S.S.R. (Previous Eeference: W.M. (41) 90th Conclusions, Minute 3.) The Prime Minister's reply to M. Stalin's Message. Supplies. Aluminium. 5. The Prime Minister r e a d t h e m e s s a g e ( t e l e g r a m N o . 1202 to Moscow) w h i c h h e h a d s e n t i n r e p l y to M . S t a l i n ' s p e r s o n a l m e s s a g e ( t e l e g r a m s Nos. 1091, 1092 a n d 1093 from Moscow) r e g a r d i n g t h e p r e s e n t p o s i t i o n on t h e R u s s i a n f r o n t . On t h e q u e s t i o n of s u p p l i e s , t h e m e s s a g e s t a t e d t h a t we h a d never t h o u g h t of r e q u i r i n g p a y m e n t f r o m t h e Soviet G o v e r n m e n t . A n y a s s i s t a n c e w h i c h we could"give h a d b e t t e r be on t h e same basis of c o m r a d e s h i p a s t h e L e a s e - L e n d Bill. The P r i m e M i n i s t e r s message was unanimously approved. A f u r t h e r m e s s a g e w o u l d be r e q u i r e d i n r e p l y t o M . S t a l i n ' s r e q u e s t for 30,000 t o n s of a l u m i n i u m a t t h e b e g i n n i n g of October. T h i s request bore no relation to realities. W e h a d to determine how m u c h a l u m i n i u m w e could m a k e a v a i l a b l e for R u s s i a , h a v i n g r e g a r d t o o u r a v a i l a b l e stocks, to t h e r e q u i r e m e n t s of t h e R o y a l A i r Force, a n d to t h e s h i p p i n g s i t u a t i o n . I t w a s a g r e e d i n discussion t h a t t h e R u s s i a n need w a s so p r e s s i n g t h a t t h e m a t t e r could n o t be left over for decision a t t h e f o r t h c o m i n g m e e t i n g i n Moscow. I t m i g h t be possible, a t some r i s k t o o u r o w n p o s i t i o n , t o m a k e 5,000 t o n s of a l u m i n i u m a v a i l a b l e for R u s s i a i n October. A f t e r t h a t a s m a l l e r a m o u n t could be m a d e a v a i l a b l e m o n t h l y for, say, six m o n t h s . T h e m e s s a g e t o M . S t a l i n w o u l d h a v e t o b r i n g o u t t h e l i m i t i n g f a c t o r s i n such a w a y a s t o convince M . S t a l i n t h a t w e w e r e h e l p i n g h i m t o t h e u t m o s t of o u r ability. The W a r C a b i n e t Invited the P r i m e Minister, in consultation with the M i n i s t e r of S u p p l y , to settle t h e t e r m s of t h e r e p l y to be sent t o M . S t a l i n ' s r e q u e s t for a l u m i n i u m . N o w t h a t w e w e r e c o m m i t t e d to s e n d i n g s u p p l i e s on a l a r g e Need for scale t o R u s s i a , i t w a s e s s e n t i a l for t h e S u p p l y M i n i s t e r s a n d t h e increased M i n i s t e r of L a b o u r a n d N a t i o n a l Service t o s t a r t f o r t h w i t h a production in c a m p a i g n for i n c r e a s e d p r o d u c t i o n in t h i s c o u n t r y . B o t h sides of the United Kingdom. i n d u s t r y w o u l d h a v e t o p u t f o r t h a n a d d i t i o n a l effort t o fill t h e g a p i n t h e s u p p l i e s r e q u i r e d by o u r o w n A r m e d F o r c e s . The Prime Minister s a i d t h a t h e p r o p o s e d t o s t a t e i n t h e H o u s e The Moscow of C o m m o n s t h a t n o t i m e h a d been o r w o u l d be lost i n t h e d e s p a t c h Meeting;, of o u r M i s s i o n , b u t t h a t i t m u s t a w a i t t h e a r r i v a l of t h e U n i t e d (Previous States delegates. I n the meanwhile, i m p o r t a n t supplies were being Eeference: W.M. (41) 87th d e s p a t c h e d to R u s s i a . H e w o u l d a d d t h a t t h e M i n i s t e r of S u p p l y Conclusions, w o u l d t a k e c h a r g e of a l l n o n - d i p l o m a t i c M i s s i o n s i n Moscow. Minute 4.) The Minister of Supply u n d e r t o o k to s u p p l y t h e P r i m e M i n i s t e r w i t h a list of t h e p e r s o n n e l a c c o m p a n y i n g h i m to Moscow. Discussions on The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs drew attention to Strategy. Moscow t e l e g r a m No. 1109. I t seemed u n d e s i r a b l e t o r u l e o u t i n a d v a n c e a l l discussion of s t r a t e g i c a l m a t t e r s a t t h e Moscow M e e t i n g . I t w a s s u g g e s t e d i n discussion t h a t i t w o u l d be u n n e c e s s a r y t o send s p e c i a l r e p r e s e n t a t i v e s , t o Moscow t o d i s c u s s s t r a t e g y . G e n e r a l . I s m a y c o u l d r e f e r h o m e for i n s t r u c t i o n s if t h e R u s s i a n s r a i s e d s t r a t e g i c a l p o i n t s on w h i c h h e o r o u r M i s s i o n i n Moscow n e e d e d guidance. ' The W a r C a b i n e t A g r e e d t h a t s t r a t e g i c a l m a t t e r s c o u l d n o t be r u l e d o u t i n a d v a n c e from discussion a t t h e Moscow M e e t i n g , b u t t h a t special representatives need not accompany, the Mission for this purpose. 6. The Prime Minister r e a d t h e d r a f t of t h e s t a t e m e n t which h e p r o p o s e d t o m a k e o n t h e first d a y of t h e Session on P o i n t I I I of Interpretation of t h e A t l a n t i c C h a r t e r . H e u n d e r t o o k t o consider c e r t a i n f u r t h e r amendments Point III. s u g g e s t e d by t h e S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e for I n d i a a n d B u r m a . (Previous Atlantic Charter. Reference: W.M. (41) 89th Conclusions, Minute 3.) Mexico. (Previous Reference : W.M. (41) 87th Conclusions, Minute 3.) Resumption of Diplomatic Relations and Settlement of the Oil Dispute. The W a r C a b i n e t A p p r o v e d t h e g e n e r a l lines of t h e p r o p o s e d s t a t e m e n t . [ A copy of the s t a t e m e n t , as m a d e by the P r i m e M i n i s t e r i n the H o u s e of Commons o n t h e 9 t h S e p t e m b e r , 1941, is a p p e n d e d to these conclusions.] 7. T h e W a r C a b i n e t h a d before t h e m a M e m o r a n d u m by the S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e for F o r e i g n Affairs ( W . P . (41) 215) p r o p o s i n g t h a t H i s M a j e s t y ' s C h a r g e d ' A f f a i r e s i n W a s h i n g t o n should be i n s t r u c t e d to i n f o r m t h e S t a t e D e p a r t m e n t t h a t we w e r e p r e p a r e d to consider f a v o u r a b l y t h e r e s u m p t i o n of d i p l o m a t i c r e l a t i o n s w i t h Mexico. I t w a s n o t considered p r a c t i c a b l e to m a k e t h i s step con­ d i t i o n a l on t h e B r i t i s h oil c o m p a n i e s o b t a i n i n g b r o a d l y t h e same t e r m s a s the A m e r i c a n oil c o m p a n i e s , b u t t h e E m b a s s y w o u l d ask t h e S t a t e D e p a r t m e n t for t h e fullest possible i n f o r m a t i o n a s t o the k i n d of s e t t l e m e n t w h i c h t h e y w e r e i m p o s i n g on t h e A m e r i c a n companies. The President of the Board of Trade a n d the Secretary for Petroleum r e m i n d e d t h e W a r C a b i n e t t h a t o u r oil i n t e r e s t s in M e x i c o w e r e t h r e e t i m e s a s l a r g e a s those of t h e U n i t e d States. T h e U n i t e d S t a t e s s e t t l e m e n t w i t h M e x i c o w o u l d p r o b a b l y include a l a r g e loan, o u t of w h i c h t h e A m e r i c a n oil c o m p a n i e s would i n d i r e c t l y be compensated. A s w e could n o t g i v e a s i m i l a r loan, it d i d n o t look a s t h o u g h t h e A m e r i c a n n e g o t i a t i o n s w o u l d be of much u s e t o u s . I n these c i r c u m s t a n c e s , o u g h t we n o t t o m a i n t a i n our p r e s e n t policy of m a k i n g t h e r e s u m p t i o n of d i p l o m a t i c relations d e p e n d e n t u p o n a s e t t l e m e n t o n lines r e a s o n a b l y s a t i s f a c t o r y to ourselves ? The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs a g r e e d t h a t we o u g h t n o t to sacrifice t h e B r i t i s h c o m p a n i e s . T h e p r o s p e c t s of their o b t a i n i n g a s a t i s f a c t o r y s e t t l e m e n t o u g h t to i m p r o v e a f t e r we h a d r e s u m e d d i p l o m a t i c r e l a t i o n s w i t h Mexico, since we m i g h t hope to benefit by t h e good offices of t h e U n i t e d S t a t e s G o v e r n m e n t i n our o w n oil n e g o t i a t i o n s . The W a r C a b i n e t A u t h o r i s e d t h e S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e for F o r e i g n Affairs to proceed on t h e lines of p a r a g r a p h s 3 a n d 8 of W . P . (41) 215, subject to i t s b e i n g m a d e clear t o the U n i t e d States G o v e r n m e n t t h a t , w h i l e h o p i n g t h a t w e m a y c o u n t on the U n i t e d S t a t e s G o v e r n m e n t s a s s i s t a n c e i n o u r negotiations w i t h t h e M e x i c a n G o v e r n m e n t , w e w i l l n o t necessarily a c c e p t t h e same t e r m s a s t h e U n i t e d S t a t e s oil companies. 8. T h e W a r C a b i n e t h a d before t h e m a M e m o r a n d u m by the L o r d P r e s i d e n t of t h e Council ( W . P . (G) (41) 90), i n w h i c h i t was p o i n t e d out t h a t t h e r e w a s n o legal s a n c t i o n for the ' ' advice ' ' given by t h e P e t r o l e u m D e p a r t m e n t t h a t m o t o r i s t s receiving supplemen­ holding Supple­ t a r y p e t r o l r a t i o n s should keep a log of t h e i r j o u r n e y s . "The Lord mentary Petrol P r e s i d e n t s C o m m i t t e e r e c o m m e n d e d t h e m a k i n g of a n Order Rations. e m p o w e r i n g t h e M i n i s t e r t o d i r e c t t h a t specified classes of motorists s h o u l d keep specified records. Some m o t o r i s t s w e r e a l r e a d y keeping logs, a n d t h e P e t r o l e u m D e p a r t m e n t h a d called on a percentage of a p p l i c a n t s t o p r o d u c e t h e i r logs i n connection w i t h t h e issue of further supplementary rations. Petroleum. Recording of Journeys by Motorists I n discussion, t h e a s s u r a n c e w a s g i v e n t h a t i t w a s n o t i n t e n d e d t o c r e a t e a n e w p u n i s h a b l e offence. T h e r e q u i r e m e n t t o k e e p a log w o u l d n o t be u n i v e r s a l . T h e police w o u l d have n o a u t h o r i t y to s t o p m o t o r i s t s on t h e r o a d a n d a s k t h e m to p r o d u c e t h e i r logs. T h e W a r C a b i n e t accepted t h e r e c o m m e n d a t i o n s of t h e L o r d P r e s i d e n t s C o m m i t t e e a s s e t o u t i n W . P . (G) (41) 90. The Blackout. 9. T h e W a r C a b i n e t a p p r o v e d t h e E e p o r t Report of Inter - D e p a r t m e n t a l C o m m i t t e e ( W . P . (G) (41) 91). Departmental Committee. (Previous Reference: W.M. (41) 87th Conclusions, Minute 9.) of the Inter- Parliament. 10. T h e W a r C a b i n e t h a d before t h e m a M e m o r a n d u m by t h e Detention of a H o m e S e c r e t a r y ( W . P . (41) 213) s t a t i n g t h a t h e h a d received r e p r e ­ Member under s e n t a t i o n s t o t h e effect t h a t t h e r e w a s a s t r o n g f e e l i n g i n t h e H o u s e Defence of C o m m o n s t h a t , if a M e m b e r w e r e d e t a i n e d u n d e r E e g u l a ­ Regulation 18B. t i o n 18B, h e o u g h t to be g i v e n a r i g h t t o h a v e h i s case i n v e s t i g a t e d by a C o m m i t t e e of t h e H o u s e r a t h e r t h a n b y t h e e x i s t i n g A d v i s o r y Committee. The W a r C a b i n e t A c c e p t e d the r e c o m m e n d a t i o n of t h e H o m e S e c r e t a r y ( W . P . (41) 213) t h a t t h e e x i s t i n g p r o c e d u r e should r e m a i n unaltered. Great George Street, S.W. September 8, 1941. 1, APPENDIX. POINT III Extract from OF T H E A T L A N T I C CHARTER. Statement by the Prime Minister in the House September 9, 1941 (Hansard, Cols. 6 8 - 6 9 ) . of Commons, [See M i n u t e 6.] T H E p u r p o s e of t h e J o i n t D e c l a r a t i o n , signed by P r e s i d e n t Roosevelt a n d myself on t h e 1 2 t h A u g u s t , i s s t a t e d i n t h e P r e a m b l e to be :— " T o m a k e k n o w n c e r t a i n common p r i n c i p l e s i n t h e n a t i o n a l policies of o u r r e s p e c t i v e c o u n t r i e s on w h i c h t h e y base t h e i r h o p e s for a better f u t u r e for t h e w o r l d . " N o w o r d s a r e needed t o e m p h a s i s e t h e f u t u r e p r o m i s e h e l d o u t t o t h e w o r l d by such a J o i n t D e c l a r a t i o n by t h e U n i t e d S t a t e s a n d G r e a t B r i t a i n . I need only d r a w attention, for instance, to the p h r a s e in p a r a g r a p h 6— " a f t e r t h e final d e s t r u c t i o n of t h e N a z i t y r a n n y " t o show t h e p r o f o u n d a n d v i t a l c h a r a c t e r of t h e solemn a g r e e m e n t i n t o w h i c h we h a v e j o i n t l y e n t e r e d . Q u e s t i o n s h a v e been asked, a n d w i l l no d o u b t be asked, a s t o e x a c t l y w h a t is i m p l i e d by t h i s or t h a t p o i n t , a n d e x p l a n a t i o n s have been i n v i t e d . I t is a w i s e r u l e t h a t w h e n t w o p a r t i e s h a v e a g r e e d a s t a t e m e n t one of t h e m shall not, t h e r e a f t e r , w i t h o u t c o n s u l t a t i o n w i t h t h e o t h e r , seek t o p u t special o r s t r a i n e d i n t e r p r e t a t i o n s u p o n t h i s o r t h a t p a s s a g e . I p r o p o s e , therefore, to s p e a k t o - d a y only in a n exclusive sense. F i r s t , t h e J o i n t D e c l a r a t i o n does n o t t r y t o e x p l a i n how t h e b r o a d principles p r o c l a i m e d by i t a r e t o be a p p l i e d t o e a c h a n d every case, w h i c h w i l l have to be d e a l t w i t h w h e n t h e w a r comes t o a n e n d . I t w o u l d n o t be w i s e for us, a t this m o m e n t , t o be d r a w n i n t o l a b o r i o u s discussions on how i t is to fit all t h e manifold p r o b l e m s w i t h w h i c h w e s h a l l be faced a f t e r t h e w a r . Secondly, the J o i n t D e c l a r a t i o n does n o t q u a l i f y in a n y w a y t h e v a r i o u s s t a t e m e n t s of policy which h a v e been m a d e f r o m t i m e t o t i m e a b o u t t h e development of c o n s t i t u t i o n a l govern­ m e n t i n I n d i a , B u r m a or o t h e r p a r t s of t h e B r i t i s h E m p i r e . W e a r e pledged by t h e D e c l a r a t i o n of A u g u s t , 1940, to h e l p I n d i a t o o b t a i n free a n d e q u a l p a r t n e r ­ s h i p in t h e B r i t i s h C o m m o n w e a l t h w i t h ourselves, subject, of course, to t h e fulfil­ m e n t of o b l i g a t i o n s a r i s i n g from o u r l o n g connection w i t h I n d i a a n d our r e s p o n s i b i l i t i e s t o i t s m a n y creeds, r a c e s a n d i n t e r e s t s . B u r m a also i s covered by o u r considered policy of e s t a b l i s h i n g B u r m e s e s e l f - g o v e r n m e n t a n d by the measures already in progress. A t t h e A t l a n t i c m e e t i n g , w e h a d in mind, p r i m a r i l y , t h e r e s t o r a t i o n of t h e sovereignty, s e l f - g o v e r n m e n t a n d n a t i o n a l life of t h e S t a t e s a n d n a t i o n s of E u r o p e now u n d e r t h e N a z i yoke, a n d t h e principles g o v e r n i n g a n y a l t e r a t i o n s i n t h e t e r r i t o r i a l b o u n d a r i e s w h i c h m a y h a v e to be made. So t h a t i s q u i t e a s e p a r a t e problem f r o m t h e p r o g r e s s i v e evolution of self­ g o v e r n i n g i n s t i t u t i o n s i n t h e r e g i o n s a n d peoples w h i c h o w e allegiance to the B r i t i s h C r o w n . W e h a v e m a d e d e c l a r a t i o n s on these m a t t e r s w h i c h a r e complete i n themselves, free f r o m a m b i g u i t y a n d r e l a t e d t o t h e c o n d i t i o n s a n d circum­ s t a n c e s of t h e t e r r i t o r i e s a n d peoples affected. T h e y w i l l be f o u n d to be entirely i n h a r m o n y w i t h t h e h i g h conception of freedom a n d j u s t i c e w h i c h i n s p i r e d the J o i n t Declaration.