(c) crown copyright Catalogue Reference:CAB/23/82 Image Reference:0008 I ijlg 111 DOCUMENT IS THE PROPERTY OF HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY S GOVERNMENT). ! I gjj R E T . COPY NO. C A B I N E T 40 ( 5 5 ) . M e e t i n g o f t h e Cabinet t o he h e l d a t N o . 1 0 , Downing S t r e e t , 8 . W . I . , on WEDNESDAY, 24th JULY, 1935, a t 11.0 a,m. A G E N D A. 1. FOREIGN AFFAIRS 2. DISPUTE BETWEEN ITALY AND ABYSSINIA (Reference (i) - (if required). C a b i n e t 39 ( 3 5 ) Subsidiary (ETHIOPIA). C o n c l u s i o n s 1 and 2 ) . Questions. Memorandum by t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r Foreign A f f a i r s . C P . 147 ( 3 5 ) already circulated. (ii) Probable Procedure at Geneva. Memorandum by t h e M i n i s t e r f o r League o f Nations A f f a i r s . C P . 151 ( 3 5 ) already circulated. (iii) Supply o f Arms t o Abyssinia. Memorandumby the S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r Foreign A f f a i r s . C P . 138 ( 3 5 ) already circulated. Memorandum "by the S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r the C o l o n i e s . C P . 146 ( 3 5 ) already circulated. 3. RE-ORIENTATION OF BRITAIN. THE A I R DEFENCE SYSTEM OF ( R e f e r e n c e C a b i n e t 38 ( 3 5 ) GPEAT Conclusion 2 ) . N o t e by the S e c r e t a r y , c o v e r i n g R e p o r t by the Committee of I m p e r i a l D e f e n c e Sub-Committee on Defence P o l i c y and R e q u i r e m e n t s . C P . 144 ( 3 5 ) already circulated. 4. SINGAPORE DEFENCES. (Reference Cabinet 6 (35) Conclusion 4 ) . N o t e by the S e c r e t a r y , c o v e r i n g R e p o r t o f the Committee o f I m p e r i a l D e f e n c e Sub-Committee on Defence P o l i c y and R e q u i r e m e n t s . C P . 152 ( 3 5 ) already circulated. 5. THE UNITED KINGDOM BEET SUGAR INDUSTRY. (Reference C a b i n e t 31 ( 3 5 ) Conclusion 9 ) . R e p o r t o f C a b i n e t Committee. C P . 155 ( 3 5 ) t o be 6 * circulated. PUBLIC WORKS LOANS BILL. (Reference C a b i n e t 38 ( 3 5 ) Conclusion 8 ) . Memorandum by t h e C h a n c e l l o r o f the Exchequer, covering draft B i l l . C P . 149 ( 3 5 ) . t o be c i r c u l a t e d . 7. CONCLUSIONS OP HOME AFFAIRS COMMITTEE. 10th C o n c l u s i o n s ( 3 5 ) o f Home A f f a i r s Circulated Committee. herewith. 1* Employment o f Women and Young P e r s o n s Bill. ( R e f e r e n c e C a b i n e t 38 ( 3 5 ) C o n c l u s i o n 8 ) . Memorandum by the Home S e c r e t a r y , c o v e r i n g draft B i l l . H.A. 27 ( 3 5 ) already circulated. 2 . E x p i r i n g Laws Continuance (Reference Bill. C a b i n e t 38 ( 3 5 ) Conclusion 8 ) . Memorandum by the F i n a n c i a l S e c r e t a r y to the T r e a s u r y , c o v e r i n g d r a f t B i l l . H.A. 28 ( 3 5 ) already circulated. (Signed) M.P.A. Secretary 2 , W h i t e h a l l Gardens, 22nd J u l y , 1935. S.W.I., HANKEY, t o the Cabinet. BgjroGJJMBNT IS THE PROPERTY OF HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT). I COPY NO. C RET. C A B I N E T 40 ( 5 5 ) . CONCLUSIONS o f a M e e t i n g o f the C a b i n e t h e l d a t 1 0 , Downing S t r e e t , S . W . I . , on WEDNESDAY, 24th JULY, 1935, a t 1 1 . 0 a.m. PRESENT: The R i g h t Hon. S t a n l e y B a l d w i n , M . P . , Prime M i n i s t e r . ( i n the C h a i r ) . The R i g h t Hon. I J . Ramsay MacDonald, M . P . , B Lord P r e s i d e n t o f t h e C o u n c i l . The R i g h t Hon. N e v i l l e Chamherlain, M . P . , C h a n c e l l o r o f t h e Exchequer. The R i g h t Hon. H The V i s c o u n t H a i l s h a m , I Lord C h a n c e l l o r . The R i g h t Hon. S i r John Simon, G . C . S . I . , K . C . V . O . , O.B.B., K.C., M.P., Secretary of S t a t e f o r Home A f f a i r s . The R i g h t Hon. S i r Samuel H o a r e , B t . , G . C . S . I . , G.B.E., C.M.G., M.P., S e c r e t a r y I of S t a t e f o r F o r e i g n A f f a i r s . The Most Hon. The Marquess o f L o n d o n d e r r y , K . G . , M.V.O., Lord P r i v y S e a l . The R i g h t Hon. * The V i s c o u n t H a l i f a x , K.G. , G.C.S.I., G . C I . E . , Secretary of S t a t e f o r War, The R i g h t Hon. J . H . Thomas, M . P . , Secretary of State f o r Affairs. The R i g h t Hon. \ Sir P h i l i p C u n l i f f e - L i s t e r , B G . B . E . , M.C. , M.P. , S e c r e t a r y State f o r A i r . The Most Hon. The Marquess o f Z e t l a n d , G . C . S . I . , G.C.I.E., Secretary State for India. of Dominion The R i g h t Hon. flj S i r G o d f r e y C o l l i n s , K . B . E . , I C M . G . , M.P. , S e c r e t a r y o f State f o r Scotland. The R i g h t Hon. Malcolm MacDonald, S e c r e t a r y of State Colonies. The R i g h t Hon, .' W a l t e r Runciman, M.P. , I P r e s i d e n t o f the Board o f The R i g h t Hon. S i r Bolton Eyres M o n s e l l , M . P . , F i r s t Lord o f t h e Admiralty. Trade. M.P., f o r the G.B.E., The R i g h t Hon. Anthony Eden, M . C , M.P. , I M i n i s t e r f o r League o f N a t i o n s Wk A f f a i r s . The R i g h t Hon. Lord Eustace Percy, M i n i s t e r without P o r t f o l i o . The R i g h t Hon. I I W a l t e r E l l i o t , M.C. , M . P . , H I M i n i s t e r f o r A g r i c u l t u r e and I Fisheries. The R i g h t Hon. O l i v e r Stanley, M.C., M.P., P r e s i d e n t e f the Board o f Education. -The R i g h t Hon. S i r K i n g s l e y Wood, M . P . , ( * Minister of Health. The R i g h t Hon. E r n e s t Brown, M . C , M i n i s t e r of Labour. The R i g h t Hon. W. Ormsby-Gore, M . P . , F i r s t Commissioner o f Works. of M.P., IDISPUTE BETWEEN I ITALY AND f : ABYSSINIA (ETHIOPIA) . General. II ; '!(Previous MB fjpf^p enc e ' m C a b i n e t 39 ( 3 5 ) , Con­ c l u s i o n 1.) l.The general C a b i n e t resumed t h e i r d i s c u s s i o n on t h e question of the dispute between I t a l y A b y s s i n i a , which had been adjourned a t t h e Meeting in order t o Foreign Affairs give the Secretary before of state proposals. Affairs (CP.-151 further (35)) for on t h e The S e c r e t a r y brought t h e end of of S t a t e f o r before t h e month. Foreign t h e f o l l o w i n g new f a c t o r s referred League probable p r o c e d u r e a t Geneva when t h e d i s p u t e comes t h e C o u n c i l towards for They a g a i n had them a Memorandum by t h e M i n i s t e r o f Nations previous time t o consider the matter and t o f o r m u l a t e f r e s h and Affairs s i n c e the Meeting to i n the margin t o the a t t e n t i o n of the Cabinet; In Paris interest of t h e French Government was showing more i n t h e q u e s t i o n as t h e M e e t i n g o f t h e League of N a t i o n s in particular in Paris t o telegrams of from t h e B r i t i s h of the t o t h e League showed t h e d e s i r e o f tion He drew Italy These telegrams France t o s e c u r e t h e when t h e C o u n c i l m e t . representa­ The French Government a l s o appeared r a t h e r k e e n e r than In I t a l y attitude. (1) that o f a change S i g n o r M u s s o l i n i had not y e t signatories of a Conference of the Abyssinian T r e a t y , and ( 3 ) of accepted, of the three namely, t h e I t a l i a n Government should be a t Geneva, before Conference. t h e r e w e r e no s i g n s t h e two p r e - c o n d i t i o n s insist­ Covenant and French of Nations. on t h e p r o p o s e d t h r e e - P o w e r attention Ambassador (Nos... 143 and 143) r e p o r t i n g French ence on t h e s a n c t i t y loyalty approached. the Council represented t h a t t h e y should, n o t h a v e recourse t o war w i t h A b y s s i n i a w h i l e t h e C o n f e r e n c e was - s i t t i n g . . The f o r m e r condition, explained l a t e r , I t a l y might as t h e S e c r e t a r y was v e r y of State i m p o r t a n t , because otherwise s u c c e e d i n k e e p i n g t h e League out o f the question altogether, that neither real issues i n which c a s e i t was possible P r a n c e n o r I t a l y would f a c e up t o the and t h e r e m i g h t not even b e a t h r e e - P o w e r C onference. It early seemed p r o b a b l e t h a t t h e C o u n c i l would meet next week. narrow q u e s t i o n The d i s c u s s i o n m i g h t b e g i n on t h e o f a f i f t h member t o t h e Commission, but to the general $£LLM-D Conciliation wao botund t o £ILA^ question. The S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e added t h a t he was up t h e s u g g e s t i o n made a t t h e l a s t M e e t i n g , D e s p a t c h should b e s e n t t o t h e B r i t i s h Paris that f o r him t o hand t o M, L a v a l , this talks i n P a r i s and. o f t h e t a l k s w i t h t h e French a t G e n e v a . he proposed, t o d e p l o y following that a Ambassador of the preliminary In this Despatch the w h o l e c a s e as t o the­ dangers t o European p e a c e and. s e c u r i t y involved i n an I t a l o - A b y s s i n i a n w a r , and t o end on t h e n o t e t h a t two Governments war. ought t o a g r e e a p o l i c y His aim was t o a v o i d by e i t h e r \ Covenant, I crude q u e s t i o n s out t h e i r obligations jointly \the d i f f i c u l t y . i n t e r e s t e d t o find He f e l t g i v e the Minister wide authority obligations for that b e i n g put under t o put a l l were the that and w e r e a way out of i t was n e c e s s a r y to League o f N a t i o n s Affairs present very p o s s i b l e p r e s s u r e on t h e Drench t o j o i n us i n i n d u c i n g S i g n e r M u s s o l i n i modify h i s the averting The u n d e r l y i n g assumption, would be \ b o t h Powers r e a l i s e d t h e i r therefore for s i d e t o t h e o t h e r as t o w h e t h e r they prepared t o carry at and he p r o p o s e d Despatch should be t h e b a s i s Ambassador's extend to attitude. The C a b i n e t w e r e i n f o r m e d t h a t t h e L i t t l e w e r e p u t t i n g p r e s s u r e on t h e French i n t h e same d i r e c t i o n as our s e I v e s . Entente If the I t a l i a n s should r e f u s e t o be represented at Geneva or should w i t h d r a w owing t o t h e of the discussions thought that to beyond t h e Wal-Wal i n c i d e n t , t h e C o u n c i l would b e bound, consider the Abyssinian proposals Abyssinia, nevertheless, and met w i t h a good t h a t we should be on our guard for i t was appeal. The v i e w was e x p r e s s e d , of support, extension a s e t t l e m e n t which was not deal against fair to and t h a t we should aim a t a s e t t l e m e n t acceptable to Abyssinia and. w i t h i n t h e g e n e r a l frame­ work, o f t h e L e a g u e . m h e C a b i n e t w e r e i n f o r m e d t h a t such information as was a v a i l a b l e indicated that the I t a l i a n s were faced with difficulties, Eritrea, great on t h e m i l i t a r y ready t o b e g i n especially s i d e o f t h e p r o b l e m , and m i g h t not be operations even i n O c t o b e r . o p i n i o n f o r c e d them t o a c t p r e m a t u r e l y running g r e a t r i s k . the view of in If t h e y would b e T h i s was u n d e r s t o o d a l s o t o b e t h e French G e n e r a l Staff. T h e r e was g e n e r a l a c c e p t a n c e o f t h e v i e w t h e r e were advantages, for public for the present, in that playing t i m e , as t h e l o n g e r a c a t a s t r o p h e c o u l d be averted t h e g r e a t e r would b e the r e a l i s a t i o n by I t a l y , o f difficulties directions, by w h i c h she was c o n f r o n t e d from many and. t h e hope o f a weakening on h e r '— though t h e p r o s p e c t s w e r e not b r i g h t The C a b i n e t a g r e e d the part a t t h e moment. — That t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r F o r e i g n A f f a i r s should p r o c e e d on t h e l i n e s t h a t he had i n d i c a t e d in. h i s s t a t e m e n t summarised abovev that is t o say, t o continue e f f o r t s t o i n d u c e t h e French Government t o combine w i t h o u r s e l v e s i n p u t t i n g p r e s s u r e on t h e I t a l i a n Government t o modify t h e i r a t t i t u d e : and t h a t t h e M i n i s t e r f o r League o f N a t i o n s A f f a i r s - should be g i v e n latitude t o pursue t h e same p o l i c y at t h e f o r t h c o m i n g M e e t i n g o f t h e C o u n c i l o f t h e League of Nat i o n s . BETWEEN MAW AND KBYSSINTA (PPPIOPIA). Supply o f A n to A b y s s i n i a (previous Reference: Cabinet 39 (.35), Oon­ clusion 2.) The C a b i n e t f u r t h e r 2, b-rcpTTTF of the supply considered the o f arms t o A b y s s i n i a , and question certain s u b s i d i a r y m a t t e r s , which had been p o s t p o n e d a t the M e e t i n g mentioned, i n t h e m a r g i n , and a g a i n had b e f o r e them t h e f o l l o w i n g documents:- Memoranda by t h e S e c r e t a r y o f for Foreign Affairs ( C P , - 1 4 7 and C , P . - 1 3 8 ( 3 5 ) ) : State (35) A Memorandum by t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e fof t h ^ C o l o n i e s ( C . P . - 1 4 6 (35)) . The S e c r e t a r y of State informed t h e Cabinet that if for Foreign l i c e n c e s were for the export few days t h e r e would, b e f i e r c e of a settlement. In a d d i t i o n , upset resentment transit at a u n i l a t e r a l t o any hope carry out our under t h e e x i s t i n g T r e a t i e s of being Italy d e c i s i o n on our across B r i t i s h t e r r i t o r y . advantage in next t h e French Government His a d v i c e t o t h e C a b i n e t was t o obligations granted o f arms t o A b y s s i n i a w i t h i n t h e and t h e d o o r would b e shut i r r e v o c a b l y would b e -Affairs part. definite: and t o allow T h i s had t h e i n consonance w i t h t h e French attitude. On t h e q u e s t i o n o f t o the view t h a t , if w i t h by t h e n a t i o n s might export possible, l i c e n c e s he inclined t h i s should be collectively, and t h a t t h e m a t t e r be r a i s e d , i n t h e most a p p r o p r i a t e way, soundings might dealt be t a k e n by t h e M i n i s t e r for o f N a t i o n s A f f a i r s , when t h e C o u n c i l m e t . or League This would p o s t p o n e a d e c i s i o n f o r - t e n d a y s , a f t e r which, a final d e c i s i o n might be t a k e n . The - a t t e n t i o n i n the Press t h e export outburst in o f t h e C a b i n e t was drawn t o t h a t we had a l r e a d y of arms t o A b y s s i n i a , Italy. I t was f e l t s t a t e m e n t must b e made t o clear reports issued l i c e n c e s for which had caused an that some p u b l i c the matter up. The C a b i n e t w e r e i n f o r m e d t h a t S o m a l i l a n d had now n o t i f i e d Colonies the the Secretary / t h a t he d i d n o t c o n s i d e r i t in transit o f arms t h e l e s s of of State for i n d i s p e n s a b l e t h a t arms through t h e P r o t e c t o r a t e p a n i e d by an e s c o r t , the Governor s h o u l d b e accom­ and t h a t t h e l a r g e r need, was t h e r e f o r an the quantities escorts The Cabinet w e r e informed, a l s o t h a t no licences f o r e x p o r t o f any arms t o I t a l y had been g i v e n s i n c e March, when t h e c r i s i s was not y e t a c u t e , and t h a t at the present were held time a l l were f o r e s e e n r a i s i n g the question its the d i f f i c u l t y encounter of c o l l e c t i v e a c t i o n at the l a r g e r mentioned, either throughout disadvantage firms for for adverse of a decision to refuse t h e means t o defend, t h e m s e l v e s . of a l l o w i n g a l l of view orders fromAbyssinia in this of the capacity and moral of country, our armament out, point of v i e w , both, of the Treaty 19 30, r e g u l a t i n g t h e i m p o r t a t i o n o f arms,, ammunition and implements on t h e q u e s t i o n o f being was a r o s e as t o t h e p r e c i s e b e a r i n g , o f August S I , the l e g a l or I t a l i a n s elsewhere instead o f from t h e l e g a l to nations. p r o d u c t i o n , was a l s o p o i n t e d Doubts Ethiopia and owing o f B r i t i s h weapons Abyssinians Black A f r i c a t o t h e Abyss i n i a n s from t h e p o i n t Geneva, Italian t h e C a b i n e t w e r e reminded o f t h e t o be p l a c e d of t h e B r i t i s h r e p r e s e n t a t i v e would, in g i v i n g advice t o other used t o k i l l he on t h e question, While the u n d e s i r a b i l i t y m countries in the matter probable repercussion a t t i t u d e towards effect t o both up. Difficulties owing t o licences export. of war, A s u g g e s t i o n was made t h a t q u e s t i o n might w i t h advantage be an O p i n i o n by t h e Law O f f i c e r s -5­ into referred o f t h e Crown. The a t t e n t i o n o f t h e C a b i n e t was drawn t o f o l l o w i n g Q u e s t i o n t h a t had b e e n put down f o r i n t h e TTouse o f Commons the. same "Major Sir the answer afternoon:­ Archibald S i n c l a i r , - To ask t h e P r e s i d e n t o f t h e B o a r d ' o f Trade what r e s t r i c t i o n s h a v e been p l a c e d by His M a j e s t y s Government on t h e e x p o r t o f arms, a i r c r a f t , or o t h e r m i l i t a r y s u p p l i e s t o A b y s s i n i a which do not a p p l y t o s i m i l a r ' e x p o r t s t o Italy: and w h e t h e r F i s M a j e s t y ' s Government i s t a k i n g any i n t e r n a t i o n a l a c t i o n w i t h a v i e w t o p l a c i n g an embargo upon t h e e x p o r t o f such m a t e r i a l t o e i t h e r or both o f t h e s e c o u n t r i e s " . f The C a b i n e t a g r e e d — (a) That, in view of the probable adverse e f f e c t of a decision to issue licences f o r e x p o r t a t i o n t o A b y s s i n i a o f arms and m u n i t i o n s o f war on. t h e a t t i t u d e o f I t a l y and F r a n c e , and c o n s e q u e n t l y on t h e c r i t i c a l n e g o t i a t i o n s i n w h i c h we were engaged f o r t h e p r e s e r v a t i o n o f peace ( a s d e s c r i b e d i n C o n c l u s i o n 1 ) , we should f u l f i l our o b l i g a t i o n s under e x i s t i n g T r e a t i e s t o a l l o w t r a n s i t of arms and m u n i t i o n s o f war a c r o s s B r i t i s h t e r r i t o r y , but s h o u l d n o t f o r t h e p r e s e n t i s s u e l i c e n c e s f o r the e x p o r t a t i o n of arms and m u n i t i o n s o f war t o e i t h e r I t a l y or A b y s s i n i a . Our e v e n t u a l a t t i t u d e must b e g o v e r n e d by t h e p r i n c i p l e of equal t r e a t m e n t t o b o t h countries: (b) That t h e r e p l y t o t h e f i r s t p a r t o f S i r Archibald. S i n c l a i r ' s Question s h o u l d be t o t h e e f f e c t t h a t no d i s c r i m i n a t i o n has b e e n e x e r c i s e d as between I t a l y and. A b y s s i n i a , and s i n c e t h e s i t u a t i o n became c r i t i c a l no l i c e n c e s h a v e been i s s u e d f o r e x p o r t o f arms t o e i t h e r country. The r e p l y t o t h e second part of the Question should be t h a t a s t a t e m e n t would b e made by t h e S e c r e t a r y of State for Foreign Affairs within the n e x t few d a y s : (c) That t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r F o r e i g n A f f a i r s s h o u l d d r a f t t h e Statement r e f e r r e d , t o a b o v e at t h e end o f ( b ) in the l i g h t of the Cabinet's discussions on t h e s u b j e c t and on t h e l i n e s o f C o n c l u s i o n ' ( a ) a b o v e . He should a v o i d any s u g g e s t i o n o f c o l l e c t i v e a c t i o n , or t h a t t h e q u e s t i o n would b e r a i s e d f o r m a l l y a t the forthcoming Meeting o f the C o u n c i l , and s h o u l d e x e r c i s e c a u t i o n i n any r e f e r e n c e t o soundings t h a t may b e t a k e n a t Geneva: ( d ) That t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r t h e C o l o n i e s should, h a v e a u t h o r i t y t o .endorse t h e a t t i t u d e o f t h e G o v e r n o r I o f S o m a l i l a n d as t o e s c o r t s f o r t r a n s i t o f arms and m u n i t i o n s b e i n g u n n e c e s s a r y , but should r e s e r v e sending his r e p l y u n t i l a f t e r the S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e f o r Foreign A f f a i r s had made t h e Statement i n Parliament r e f e r r e d t o in ( c ) above. 3 . The C a b i n e t protection considered the question of of B r i t i s h subjects in Abyssinia, i n paragraph 5 o f t h e Memorandum by t h e of State for Foreign A f f a i r s The S e c r e t a r y Cabinet of India raised Secretary (35)). (C , P . - 1 4 7 State for informed t h a t h e had a g r e e d w i t h t h e S e c r e t a r y State for Foreign A f f a i r s a Statement I n d i a by t h e V i c e r o y r e l a t i n g Indian subjects. Balf the r e p r e s e n t a t i v e s and l o y a l f i r m , had r e f u s e d and t h e q u e s t i o n o f t h e i r the of t o b e made t o the p r o t e c t i o n the Indians including the of in of i n Abyss i n i a , one v e r y to leave the p r o t e c t i o n was wealthy country, therefore important. m he Secretary of t h e s u g g e s t i o n was t o the Capital Government and t o State for Foreign Affairs said concentrate B r i t i s h subjects increase the guard. d i s l i k e d the idea The Egyptian o f s e n d i n g a guard of Sudanese from t h e Sudan, and i t m i g h t b e necessary f o r him t o ask f o r in a s s i s t a n c e from I n d i a respect. The C a b i n e t approved t h e o r o p o s a l s i n C P . - 1 4 7 ( 3 5 ) , P a r a g r a p h 5 ) as a g e n e r a l g u i d e f o r t h e p r e s e n t as t o the pr o t ect ion of B r i t i s h subjects In A b y s s i n i a . in this DISPUTE BETWEEN ITALY AND ABYSSINIA (ETHIOPIA). — Appointment of O f f i c i a l Sub-Committee. 4 . On t h e s u g g e s t i o n o f t h e P r i m e M i n i s t e r , and i n v i e w agreed of the approaching Recess, t h e Cabinet — T h a t a Sub-Committee o f t h e Committee o f I m p e r i a l D e f e n c e , composed as follows — Repres e n t a t i v e s m of he Foreign Office Th e The The The The The The The (including the Chairman), T r e a s ur y , War O f f i c e , Dominions O f f i c e , Air Ministry Colonial Office, Board, o f T r a d e , Admiralty, I n d i a O f f i c e ( t o a t t e n d when I n d i a n i n t e r e s t s are affected) should, d e a l w i t h q u e s t i o n s r e f e r r e d t o i t by (Government Departments on Abyssinia. The Committee would w o r k , m u t a t j s . m u t a n d i s , on t h e same l i n e s as t h e O f f i c i a l M i d d l e East Sub-Committee;. mHB A I R DEFENCE 5. The C a b i n e t had b e f o r e them an I n t e r i m R e p o r t qYFTEM OP G-REA.T P R T T A I N — R E - ( 0 . P . - 1 4 4 ( 3 5 ) ) o f t h e Sub-Committee o f t h e Committee ORIENTATION OF. — o f I m p e r i a l D e f e n c e on D e f e n c e P o l i c y and R e q u i r e m e n t s , Interim R e p o r t . on t h e q u e s t i o n o f t h e R e o r i e n t a t i o n o f t h e A i r (previous Refpr^nc^: Cabinet 38 ( 3 5 ) , Con­ elusion 2.) D e f e n c e System o f G r e a t B r i t a i n . Sub-Committee w e r e not y e t recommendations as t o t h e r a t e a t which t h e s t a g e s provisional (II) t h e y had r e a c h e d approval:­ To a p p r o v e i n p r i n c i p l e t h a t t h e f i n a l , scheme, as l a i d down i n paragraphs 35 and 36 on. page 11 o f t h e R e p o r t by a Sub-Committee on t h e R e - o r i e n t a t i o n o f t h e A i r D e f e n c e System, o f Great B r i t a i n and as I l l u s t r a t e d i n Map N o . 3 attached, t o t h a t R e p o r t , i s t h e scheme t o b e aimed a t . Subject t o the f u r t h e r consideration, which i s now b e i n g g i v e n t o t h e r a t e a t which t h e s t a g e s o f t h e w h o l e Scheme should be c o m p l e t e d , t o a p p r o v e t h e c o m p l e t i o n by 1940 o f t h a t p a r t o f Stage 1 of the defences described i n t h e f o l l o w i n g p a r t s o f p a r a g r a p h 49 on p a g e 13 o f t h e R e p o r t on t h e R e ­ o r i e n t a t i o n o f t h e A i r D e f e n c e System of Great B r i t a i n : ­ ( a ) The p a r t i a l p r o v i s i o n o f A,.A. defences in the Inner A r t i l l e r y Zone c o v e r i n g G r e a t e r London and c o n s i s t i n g o f 8 A . A , b a t t e r i e s and 6 s e a r c h l i g h t companies: (ill) (b) t h e p r o v i s i o n o f 9 o f t h e A..A. b a t t e r i e s f o r t h e Outer A r t i l l e r y Z o n e , o f which 5 a r e t o be l o c a t e d i n t h e Thames and Medway a r e a : (c) the p r o v i s i o n of s e a r c h l i g h t s in t h e A i r c r a f t F i g h t i n g Zone and Outer A r t i l l e r y Zone from Portsmouth, t o H u n t i n g d o n , e x c e p t t h a t t h e depth of the portion of the A i r c r a f t F i g h t i n g Zone from Portsmouth t o Godalming s h o u l d b e l i m i t e d t e m p o r ­ a r i l y t o 15 m i l e s . This w i l l r e q u i r e 36 s e a r c h l i g h t c o m p a n i e s . To r e s e r v e f o r f u r t h e r d i s c u s s i o n and c o n s i d e r a t i o n that part of the proposals f o r Stage 1 (contained, i n sub-paragraph ( d ) of paragraph 49) which r e l a t e s t o t h e r a i s i n g and t r a i n i n g o f a d d i t i o n a l A . A * d e f e n c e u n i t s f o r t h e second and t h i r d stages , of the C o n c l u s i o n s , which t h e y submitted to the Cabinet f o r (I) the i n a p o s i t i o n t o make t h e scheme should, b e c o m p l e t e d , following Although ( T V ) To t a k e n o t e of t h e f a c t t h a t t h e p r o p o s a l ( c o n t a i n e d i n sub-paragraph ?e) o f paragraph 49) f o r t h e e x p a n s i o n o f t h e O b s e r v e r Corps O r g a n i s a t i o n had a l r e a d y been a p p r o v e d by t h e Committee o f I m p e r i a l Defence at t h e i r Meeting h e l d on t h e 1.6th A p r i l , 1935, when t h e y had under c o n s i d e r a t i o n a R e p o r t o n t h e O r g a n i s a t i o n and Expansion of t h e O b s e r v e r Corps ( C . I . D . Paper No. 206-A). (v) To t a k e n o t e o f t h e c o n t e n t s and c o n c l u s i o n s o f t h e I n t e r i m Report o f t h e Sub-Coromittee on A i r D e f e n c e R e s e a r c h ( P a p e r N o . .D.P.R.-3.) , Some doubts were e x p r e s s e d as t o the expediency of a d o p t i n g a scheme t h e effectiveness o f which was s u b j e c t t o the l i m i t a t i o n s i n the R e p o r t o f the Chiefs o f Staff indicated Sub-Committee; the manning arrangements f o r which had n o t y e t worked out s a t i s f a c t o r i l y , been and which would c o s t a v e r y l a r g e sum o f money t o c o m p l e t e . The C a b i n e t were reminded, that the Chiefs of Staff nevertheless, Sub-Committee had a p p r o v e d t h e scheme as " t h e p r o p e r one t o be aimed a t " ; t h a t the C h i e f s meetings of of S t a f f had taken p a r t the Sub-Committee Requirements; and t h a t in the on D e f e n c e P o l i c y the Sub-Committee on A i r Defence R e s e a r c h had e x p r e s s e d the o p i n i o n that the recommendations s h o u l d b e a c c e p t e d pending practical d e v e l o p m e n t and the p r o v i s i o n o f The C a b i n e t were a l s o reminded t h a t t h e y w e r e only being i n v i t e d to approve.the f i n a l in scheme and n o t i n d e t a i l as w e l l a s the c o m p l e t i o n b y 1940 o f p a r t o f S t a g e I o f "subject to the f u r t h e r the the a p p a r a t u s and weapons now b e i n g e x p l o r e d . principle and the p l a n c o n s i d e r a t i o n which i s now b e i n g g i v e n t o t h e r a t e a t w h i c h the s t a g e s o f the w h o l e scheme s h o u l d he completed". The s u g g e s t i o n was made t h a t a t any moment the q u e s t i o n m i g h t he r a i s e d i n P a r l i a m e n t or i n P r e s s as t o what p r o v i s i o n was b e i n g made f o r defence of this nature and t h a t from a p o i n t o f v i e w i t was i m p o r t a n t The S e c r e t a r y o f decision. Foreign Affairs s a i d t h a t he was n o t a t a l l happy as t o t h e o f c o m p l e t i o n f o r w h i c h the p l a n s under had been worked o u t . a t the F o r e i g n O f f i c e being e a r l i e r possibly All dates consideration t h e i n f o r m a t i o n he had p o i n t e d t o the critical than was a n t i c i p a t e d i n i n d e e d as e a r l y as 1938. these He was and Requirements Committee b y the C h i e f o f I m p e r i a l General S t a f f and the Chief concerned Policy the of the A i r the r a t e a t w h i c h German p r e p a r a t i o n s being carried date plans; a l s o at information furnished t o the Defence as t o air political to take a State f o r the Staff were out. The L o r d P r e s i d e n t o f the Council t h a t the d a t e a t which we s h o u l d aim i n reported defensive p r e p a r a t i o n was under c o n s i d e r a t i o n b y t h e Ministerial Committee on D e f e n c e P o l i c y and R e q u i r e m e n t s he w o u l d p r o b a b l y have t o p r e s e n t a R e p o r t C a b i n e t on t h e s u b j e c t a t an e a r l y The C a b i n e t to and the date. agreed:- To a p p r o v e the f o l l o w i n g recommendations o f t h e Sub-Committee on D e f e n c e P o l i c y and Requirements ­ (I) (II) To approve i n p r i n c i p l e t h a t t h e f i n a l scheme, as l a i d down i n p a r a g r a p h s 35 and 36 on page 11 o f the R e p o r t by a Sub-Committee on the R e - o r i e n t a t i o n o f the A i r D e f e n c e System o f Great B r i t a i n and as i l l u s t r a t e d i n Map No. 3 attached to t h a t Report, i s the scheme t o be aimed a t . Subject t o the f u r t h e r c o n s i d e r a t i o n which i s now b e i n g g i v e n t o t h e r a t e a t which t h e s t a g e s o f t h e w h o l e scheme s h o u l d he c o m p l e t e d , t o a p p r o v e the c o m p l e t i o n by 1940 o f t h a t p a r t o f Stage 1 o f t h e d e f e n c e s d e s c r i b e d i n the f o l l o w i n g p a r t s of p a r a g r a p h 49 on page 13 o f the R e p o r t on the R e - o r i e n t a t i o n o f t h e A i r D e f e n c e System of Great B r i t a i n : ­ (a) The p a r t i a l provision o f A . A . d e f e n c e s i n the I n n e r A r t i l l e r y Zone c o v e r i n g G r e a t e r London and consisting of 8 A.A. b a t t e r i e s and 6 s e a r c h l i g h t companies: (b) the p r o v i s i o n o f 9 o f the A . A . b a t t e r i e s f o r t h e Outer A r t i l l e r y Zone, o f w h i c h 5 a r e t o be l o c a t e d i n the Thames and Medway a r e a : (c) the p r o v i s i o n of s e a r c h l i g h t s i n the A i r c r a f t F i g h t i n g Zone and Outer A r t i l l e r y Zone from Portsmouth t o Huntingdon, e x c e p t t h a t t h e d e p t h o f the p o r t i o n o f t h e A i r c r a f t F i g h t i n g Zone from Portsmouth t o Godalming s h o u l d be l i m i t e d t e m p o r ­ a r i l y t o 15 m i l e s . This w i l l r e q u i r e 36 s e a r c h l i g h t companies. SINGAPORE DEFENCES. 6 * The C a b i n e t had b e f o r e them a R e p o r t Singapore Defences Report o f g^b-Committee on D e f e n c e P o l i c y and Reouirement s (Previous Reference: Cabinet 6 ( 3 5 ) , Conelusion 4 . ) of (C.P.-152 I m p e r i a l Defence (35)) by t h e on Committee Sub-Committee on D e f e n c e Policy . and R e q u i r e m e n t s . The C o n c l u s i o n s and recommendat i o n s o f t h e Sub-Committee w e r e summarised a t t h e end o f t h e i r R e p o r t (a) in the f o l l o w i n g terms:- That w i t h o u t p r e j u d i c e t o t h e f i n a l scheme f o r t h e p r o v i s i o n of S t a g e I I o f the Singapore Defences, the g i f t o f t h e S u l t a n o f Johore amounting t o £500,000 s h o u l d be d i s t r i b u t e d as follows:­ (i) (ii) £400,000 t o t h e War O f f i c e t o b e d e v o t e d t o t h e comp1e­ t i o n o f t h e 1 5 - i n c h gun b a t t e r i e s a t Bee Hoe ( 3 guns) and Buona V i s t a ( 2 g u n s ) . £100,000 t o t h e A i r M i n i s t r y t o meet t h e c o s t o f a c c e l e r a t i n g ' t h e p r e p a r a t i o n o f t h e second and t h i r d l a n d i n g - g r o u n d s and f o r p r o v i d i n g accommodation f o r the non-regular (spotting) f l i g h t at the c i v i l aerodrome. ( b ) T h a t t h e J o i n t Oversea and Home D e f e n c e Committee s h o u l d c o n s i d e r and r e p o r t , w h a t f u r t h e r s t e p s a r e r e q u i r e d on t h e p a r t of a l l Services to complete the d e f e n c e s o f t h e b a s e subsequent t o Stage I . The C a b i n e t a p p r o v e d t h e recommendations. -14­ above £T? BF.RT SUGAR INDUSTRY. jtagport o f fcabinet Committee. ;(Previous ' Reference: Cabinet 31 f S5) ConI elusion 9 . ) 7. The C a b i n e t had b e f o r e the Cabinet them t h e R e p o r t of (35)), Committee on B e e t Sugar ( G . P . - 1 5 5 t o whom t h e R e p o r t of t h e U n i t e d Kingdom Sugar Industry I n q u i r y Committee (Cmd. 4871) had been referred a t t h e M e e t i n g h e l d on May 82nd ( C a b i n e t (35), to Conclusion 4 ) . The Cabinet 50 Committee had come t h e c o n c l u s i o n t h a t under p r e s e n t conditions there was no p r a c t i c a l a l t e r n a t i v e but t o p r o v i d e a measure of State assistance for the industry, a d o p t i o n by t h e C a b i n e t Report) and recommended o f a scheme ( a t t a c h e d , t o proposed by a Committee o f O f f i c i a l s b e s t method t h a t as c o u l d be devised, f o r dealing the s i t u a t i o n . The C a b i n e t Committee further recommended, the proposals if contained in R e p o r t w e r e a p p r o v e d i n p r i n c i p l e by t h e that the Chancellor of Agriculture announcement and t o in into out t h e i r their Cabinet, consultation before to any d e c i s i o n was made, c o - o p e r a t e w i t h t h e Government proposals. The Prime M i n i s t e r Committee f o r with should b e a u t h o r i s e d o f the Government's i n v i t e them t o carrying the o f t h e Bxcheauer and. t h e M i n i s t e r and F i s h e r i e s b r i n g the industry the thanked the t h e i r R e p o r t on t h i s Cabinet complicated question. After h e a r i n g from Exchequer a comprehensive of the Committee, (a) the C h a n c e l l o r of s t a t e m e n t on the the C a b i n e t the proposals agreed: To approve the p r o p o s a l s i n Co P. 155 ( 3 5 ) s u b j e c t t o t h e m o d i f i c a t i o n o f the l a s t paragraph/in ( c ) below: ( b ) That the C h a n c e l l o r o f the Exchequer and the M i n i s t e r f o r A g r i c u l t u r e and F i s h e r i e s s h o u l d be a u t h o r i s e d t o b r i n g the i n d u s t r y i n t o c o n s u l t a t i o n : (c) That the M i n i s t e r o f A g r i c u l t u r e and Fisheries shouldbe authorised early n e x t week t o make a s t a t e m e n t i n P a r l i a ­ ment w i t h o u t f u r t h e r r e f e r e n c e to the Cabinet. HP. PUBLIC OBFS LOANS ILL . Pr evious Reference: Cabinet 38 ( 3 5 ) . Conelusion 8.) 8. The C a b i n e t had b e f o r e them a Memorandum by the Chancellor approval o f t h e Exchequer in. p r i n c i p l e 1 9 3 5 , and a u t h o r i t y rises. of (0 . P . - 1 4 9 ( 3 5 ) ) t h e P u b l i c Works Loans to introduce i t asking; Bill, b e f o r e t h e House The main purpose o f t h e P i l l was t o f i x the maximum sum which might be i s s u e d t o t h e P u b l i c Works Loan Commissioners for t h e p u r p o s e o f making from, t h e L o c a l Loans Bund up t o t h e d a t e o f p a s s i n g of a f u r t h e r loans the Bill, The C a o i n e t a p p r o v e d i n p r i n c i p l e the P u b l i c Works Loans B i l l , 1935, and a u t h o r i s e d t h e C h a n c e l l o r o f the Exchequer t o i n t r o d u c e i t b e f o r e the Recess. wr/PLGYMFiNT WOMEN AND TMG PERSONS 9. The C a b i n e t had under c o n s i d e r a t i o n a Memo­ randum by t h e Home S e c r e t a r y the d r a f t evious reference: b i n s t 58 55), Con­ usion 8 . ) the (-35)) Employment o f Women and Young object covering Persons o f which was t o p l a c e on a permanent t h e temporary p r o v i s i o n s t h e Employment Act, (H.A.-27 Bill, basis contained, i n S e c t i o n 3 o f o f Women, Young P e r s o n s and. C h i l d r e n 1920, under w h i c h women and young persons may be employed in a f a c t o r y day-shifts: or workshop on a system o f together with the following by t h e Committee o f Home A f f a i r s Conclusions (35),Minute thereon recommendation (.H.A.-G. 1):­ " T o a u t h o r i s e t h e introdi.icti.on i n t h e Bouse o f Commons o f t h e Employment, o f Women and Young P e r s o n s B i l l , i n t h e form o f t h e d r a f t annexed t o H . A . - 2 7 ( 3 5 ) , s u b j e c t t o t h e amendment o f C l a u s e 4 , and s u b j e c t a l s o t o any d r a f t i n g or o t h e r m i n o r a l t e r a t i o n s t h a t may be found n e c e s s a r y or desirable: i t being understood t h a t t h e Second R e a d i n g and subsequent s t a g e s of t h e B i l l w i l l be d e f e r r e d u n t i l a f t e r t h e Stunner Recess The C a b i n e t a p p r o v e d the above recommendation o f the Committee o f Home A f f a i r s , -17­ two 10th EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUASOE B I L L . tpffTJ; f previous' Reference: Cabinet 38 ( 3 5 ) , Conclusion 8.) 10. The C a b i n e t had under c o n s i d e r a t i o n a Memo- r a n d tan by t h e F i n a n c i a l S e c r e t a r y t o the Treasury (B.A.-88 (35)) E x p i r i n g Laws covering the draft C o n t i n u a n c e B i l l , which had b e e n a g r e e d w i t h Departments the concerned and s h o u l d become law by December 3 1 ; 1935?' together with the following recommendation by t h e Committee o f Home A f f a i r s (.H.A.C. 10th C o n c l u s i o n s thereon ( 3 5 ) Minute 3 ) : ­ "T-O a u t h o r i s e t h e i n t r o d u c t i o n f o r t h w i t h I n t h e House o f Commons o f t h e E x p i r i n g Laws C o n t i n u a n c e B i l l , i n t h e form o f t h e d r a f t annexed t o .-S8 ( 3 5 ) , subject t o any d r a f t i n g or o t h e r minor a l t e r a t i o n s t h a t may b e found n e c e s s a r y o r d e s i r a b l e ; i t b e i n g u n d e r s t o o d t h a t t h e Second R e a d i n g and subsequent s t a g e s o f t h e B i l l would be d e f e r r e d u n t i l a f t e r t h e Summer Recess The C a b i n e t a p p r o v e d the a b o v e recommendation o f the Committee o f Home A f f a i r s . 11. INDIA. The S e c r e t a r y of State f o r I n d i a r a i s e d as a m a t t e r o f urgency a q u e s t i o n r e l a t i n g Civil Disobedience, I previous I Reference: I Cabinet 17 ( 3 4 ) " conclusion 6 ) . continuance to o f t h e P r e s s A c t and c e r t a i n the emergency l e g i s l a t i o n p a s s e d i n 1932 t o d e a l w i t h the Civil The D i s o b e d i e n c e Movement i n I n d i a . t i o n was due t o e x p i r e if, i n December o f a s t h e Government o f be r e - e n a c t e d , v e r y e a r l y taken i n I n d i a f o r legisla­ t h i s y e a r and India proposed, i t \?as t o s t e p s w o u l d have t o be the purpose. The S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e added t h a t he had p r e p a r e d a Memorandum on the whole question. A t the r e q u e s t o f India, the Cabinet (a) the S e c r e t a r y of State for agreed:­ That a C a b i n e t Committee composed as follows: The S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r I n d i a ( i n the C h a i r ) , The L o r d P r e s i d e n t o f t h e C o u n c i l , The L o r d C h a n c e l l o r , The S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r F o r e i g n Affairs (if available), The S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r War, s h o u l d meet t o c o n s i d e r t h e q u e s t i o n o f the c o n t i n u a n c e of the P r e s s A c t and c e r t a i n emergency l e g i s l a t i o n p a s s e d i n 1932 t o d e a l w i t h t h e C i v i l D i s o b e d i e n c e Movement. (b) T h a t , i f the above Committee was i n a g r e e m e n t , the S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r I n d i a should be a u t t i o r i s e d t o p r o c e e d on i t s recommendations w i t h o u t f u r t h e r r e f e r e n c e t o the C a b i n e t , 2 , W h i t e h a l l Gardens, 24th J u l y , 1935. S.W.I.,