(c) crown copyright Catalogue Reference:CAB/23/82 Image Reference:0007 jrHTS DOCUMENT IS THE PROPERTY OF HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT) IS E C R E T . re E V I S COPY NO. E. C A B I N E T 59 ( 5 5 ) . lee t i n g o f the C a b i n e t t o he held, a t 1 0 , Downing S t r e e t , S . W . I . , on MONDAY, 22nd JULY, 1935, a t 1 1 . 0 a.m. A G E N D A . 1. DISPUTE BETWEEN ITALY AND ABYSSINIA (Reference (i) C a b i n e t 38 ( 3 5 ) Subsidiary (ETHIOPIA). Conclusion l). Questions. Memorandum by t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r Foreign A f f a i r s . C P . 147 ( 3 5 ) circulated-herewith. (ii) Probable Procedure at Geneva. Memorandum by t h e M i n i s t e r f o r League o f Nations A f f a i r s . C P . 151 ( 3 5 ) t o be c i r c u l a t e d . (iii) Supply o f Arms t o A b y s s i n i a . Memorandum by the S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r Foreign A f f a i r s . C P . 138 ( 3 5 ) already circulated. Memorandum by the S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r the C o l o n i e s . C P . 146 ( 3 5 ) already circulated. I F TIME PERMITS. 2. LABOUR PARTY RESOLUTION IN HOUSE OF COMMONS ON TUESDAY, JULY 2 5 r d , ON REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS FOR THE SPECIAL AREAS. (Reference C a b i n e t 37 ( 3 5 ) Conclusion 2 ) . N o t e by the M i n i s t e r o f Labour. C P . 148 ( 3 5 ) circulated (Signed) M.P.A. Secretary I I 2, Whitehall Gardens, 19th J u l y , 1935. S.W.I., herewith. HANKEY, t o the Cabinet. g 0 RET. COPY NO. C A B I N E T 59 ( 5 5 ) . CONCLUSIONS o f a M e e t i n g o f the C a b i n e t held, a t 10, Downing S t r e e t , S.W. 1. , on MONDAY', 22nd JULY, 1935, a t 1 1 , 0 a,m. PRESENT: The R i g h t Hon. S t a n l e y B a l d w i n , M . P . , Prime M i n i s t e r . ( i n the C h a i r ) . !e R i g h t Hon. J. Ramsay MacDonald, M . P . , J Lord P r e s i d e n t o f t h e C o u n c i l . The R i g h t Hon. N e v i l l e Chamberlain, M.P., Chancellor o f the Exchequer. flhe R i g h t Hon. The V i s c o u n t H a i l s h a m , Lord C h a n c e l l o r . The R i g h t Hon. S i r John Simon, G . C . S . I . , K . C . V . 0 . O.B.E., K.C., M.P., Secretary o f S t a t e f o r Home A f f a i r s . Ihe R i g h t Hon.. Sir Samuel H o a r e , B t . , G . C . S . I . , G.B.E., C . M . G . , M . P . , S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e f o r F o r e i g n A f f a i r s . The Most Hon. The Marquess of L o n d o n d e r r y , K.G., M.V.O., Lord P r i v y Seal. The Right Hon. The V i s c o u n t H a l i f a x , K . G . , G.C.S.I., G.C.I.E., Secretary of S t a t e f o r War. The R i g h t Hon. J . H . Thomas, M . P . , Secretary of State for Affairs. The Right Hon. Sir P h i l i p C u n l i f f e - L i s t e r , G.B.E., M.C. , M.P. , S e c r e t a r y of S t a t e f o r A i r . The Most Hon. The Marquess of Z e t l a n d , G . C . S . I . G . C . I . E . , Secretary of State for India. The Right Hon. Sir G o d f r e y C o l l i n s , K . B . E . , I C.M.G. , M.P. , S e c r e t a r y o f I State f o r S c o t l a n d . The R i g h t Hon. Malcolm MacDonald, M . P . , S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r the Colonies. Ihe Right Hon. f a l t e r Runciman, M . P . , P r e s i d e n t o f the Board o f The R i g h t Hon. S i r B o l t o n Eyres M o n s e l l , M . P . , F i r s t Lord o f the Admiralty. Trade. Dominion G.B.E., the Right Hon. Anthony Eden, M . C , ' ; ^ , . , . , M i n i s t e r f o r League e f N a t i o n s Affairs. The R i g h t Hon. L o r d Eustace P e r c y , Minister without P o r t f o l i o . Ihe R i g h t Hon. Walter E l l i o t , M . C . , M . P . i M i n i s t e r o f A g r i c u l t u r e ana. Fisheries. The R i g h t Hon. O l i v e r Stanley, M.C., M.P., P r e s i d e n t o f t h e Board o f Education. f t e Right Hon. S i r K i n g s l e y Wood, M.P. Minister of Health. The R i g h t Hon. E r n e s t Brown, M . C . , M i n i s t e r of Labour. M P n T c The R i g h t Hon. W. Ormsby-Gore, M . P . , F i r s t Commissioner o f Wsrks. M.P., 1 . I n a c c o r d a n c e w i t h t h e C o n c l u s i o n mentioned InisHJTE BETWEEN ITTALY A N D IABYSSINTA !(ETHIOPIA) . [ general. (pj*eyi ous Reference: Cabinet 38 ( 3 5 ) , Con­ c l u s i o n 1.) i n the margin, mainly the Cabinet h e l d a S p e c i a l to consider Abyssinia, Meeting t h e d i s p u t e between I t a l y and had b e f o r e them a number o f On t h e g e n e r a l q u e s t i o n t h e S e c r e t a r y for Foreign Affairs the Minister for had c i r c u l a t e d league of and documents. of State a Memorandum by Nations Affairs p r o b a b l e p r o c e d u r e a t Geneva when t h e on t h e Italo-Abyssinlan comes b e f o r e t h e C o u n c i l towards t h e end of dispute t h e month ( C . P . - 1 5 1 The S e c r e t a r y (35)). of S t a t e f o r Foreign Affairs i n f o r m e d t h e C a b i n e t t h a t when he asked f o r p r e s e n t M e e t i n g h e had thought Meeting of t h e C o u n c i l take place on Thursdav of it the c e r t a i n that, t h e t h e l e a g u e o f N a t i o n s would or F r i d a v n e x t . Now i t seemed p r o b a b l y t h a t t h e M e e t i n g would b e postponed f o r few d a y s . At f i r s t S i g n e r M u s s o l i n i had favourable to a meeting r e p r e s e n t e d at G e n e v a . Italian Foreign Office e i t h e r a meeting or o f showed s i g n s of the parties of in his the opposition t o t h e 1906 ,,T! to reaty He h i m s e l f , instructions to the Ambassador a t Rome t h a t h e saw no p r o s p e c t of the p o s s i b i l i t y Council or o f of postponing the Meeting of confining t o who was t h e o r i g i n a l it still t o t h e mere q u e s t i o n as o f a m e e t i n g under t h e 1906 held the f i e l d . If, however, t h a t n o t h i n g was coming out o f it was i t , h e was f r o m our b e i n g drawn i n t o a b l i n d a l l e y , c a r d i n our hands was t h e d e t e r r e n t , w h i c h h e meant p u b l i c i t y averse more he s t u d i e d t h e q u e s t i o n t h e more s t r o n g l y h e f e l t the only the a g g r e s s o r at W a l - W a l . At present the p o s s i b i l i t y clear the More r e c e n t l y , h o w e v e r , h o w e v e r , had made c l e a r Treaty of I t a l y would, b e I t a l i a n r e p r e s e n t a t i o n a t Geneva. British appeared of the s i g n a t o r i e s Treat;/ o f 1906 and had i m p l i e d t h a t a that by and c o n v e r s a t i o n s w i t h the French i n o r d e r t o g e t before them t o put p r e s s u r e on t h e Geneva d i s c u s s i o n s . T h e r e was g e n e r a l agreement t h a t important to i t was most Induce M. L a v a l t o t a k e t h e more s e r i o u s l y view Italy' question than he had done h i t h e r t o , w i t h a to very strong j o i n t p r e s s u r e b e i n g put upon Italy. Among t h e p r o p o s a l s were t h e (i) discussed at the Meeting foilowing That t h e M i n i s t e r Affairs f o r League o f should s e e M . L a v a l , Nations either h i s way t o Geneva or a t Geneva, on and should be authorised t o inform him, the privacy o f n e g o t i a t i o n but n o t p u b l i c , that prepared their in the l a s t r e s o r t had b e e n t h e i r to f u l f i l opinion in this on i f it led i t would probably irritation . this country to w a r ) , leak to I t a l y , that attitude. c o u r s e w o u l d be consistent with the presenttrend later were engagements under t h e Covenant and W h i l e i t was s u g g e s t e d t h a t public : in t h e B r i t i s h Government would e v e n t u a l l y h a v e t o announce this in of development (though not of necessarily t h e comment was made t h a t out at and t h a t once and cause great i n any e v e n t M* L a v a l would b e under a s t r o n g t e m p t a t i o n t o i n f o r m Italy and o b t a i n t h e c r e d i t proposal for sanctions-. not l i k e l y This f o r h a v i n g b l o c k e d our course, i t t o be s u c c e s s f u l was s u g g e s t e d , was in stopping I t a l y making war on A b y s s i n i a , b e c a u s e i t was unlikely Even i f that F r a n c e would and. t h e r e w e r e s i g n s to i t might co-operate, t h a t French o p i n i o n i n t h i s m a t t e r was r a t h e r M, L a v a l — extremely co-operate i n sanctions . France should be w i l l i n g however — from i n advance l e a d t o war between the public of U n i t e d Kingdom and F r a n c e on one B i d e and I t a l y the other . Wars w e r e e a s i e r t o s t a r t and. i t was d i f f i c u l t than t o t o f o r e s e e how f a r 9 ' i t u a t i o n might l e a d i n Fur ope t o d a y . on stop, such a What, it was a s k e d , would he t h e r e a c t i o n on Y u g o - S l a v i a towards Italy, on Germany towards A u s t r i a , the effect of In fact, and what t h e i n e v i t a b l e bankruptcy of Italy? t h e q u e s t i o n o f s a n c t i o n s had t o be w e i g h e d i n the l i g h t of its effect on t h e w h o l e European s itnation . (ii) A second s u g g e s t i o n was t h a t t h e M i n i s t e r for League o f N a t i o n s A f f a i r s intimate view t o M. L a v a l t h a t (citing speech) should in his personal S i r Austen C h a m b e r l a i n ' s t h e B r i t i s h Government would b e c o m p e l l e d t o announce i t s w i l l i n g n e s s fulfil its obligations under t h e o r a t any r a t e t h a t , i f taken, t h e y had been w i l l i n g but m that official could hardly be i n s t r u c t e d , express (iii) personal negotiations abroad or e x p e c t e d , m e r e l y to opinions. as F r a n c e , as a neighbour o f b e more a f f e c t e d hostilities i n so much ­ Italy, would by t h e p o s s i b i l i t y with that of country than anyone e l s e , we s h o u l d be j u s t i f i e d M. Laval t o s t a t e f i r s t Italy. other a Minister A t h i r d s u g g e s t i o n was t h a t attitude that unwilling. h e comment, was made, h o w e v e r , t h a t engaged i n c o n d u c t i n g Covenant, no a c t i o n w e r e t h e y would have t o s t a t e n a t i o n s had been to in pressing what was h i s i n the event of a default by (iv) A f o u r t h p r o p o s a l was t h a t t h e r e should h e a C o n f e r e n c e w i t h t h e French Government, the object survey o f which s h o u l d b e t o make a o f t h e r e a c t i o n t h a t an T t a l o ­ - A b y s s i n i a n war would, h a v e on Europe, and t o b r i n g home t o M. L a v a l t h e consequences on France i n p a r t i c u l a r the provisions o f t h e Covenant and i t s possible reactions If arrangements. o f a breakdown o f on o t h e r mutual this ooxurse w e r e a d o p t e d t h e aim would b e , not s o much f o r t o press country security either t h e o t h e r as t o i t s attitude on. s a n c t i o n s , but t o examine t h e q u e s t i o n from an A n g l o - F r e n c h p o i n t t o d i s c o v e r what s t e p s avert the serious of view, in order c o u l d be taken t o consequences o f an outbreak of war. The C a b i n e t w e r e i n f o r m e d , h o w e v e r , difficult t o p r o p o s e a new C o n f e r e n c e w h i l e t h e 1906 C o n f e r e n c e was s t i l l (v) t h a t i t would, be A fifth the under consideration. s u g g e s t i o n , which had a r i s e n out o f e n q u i r i e s , by t h e A d v i s o r y t h e Committee o f I m p e r i a l Questions Committee o f Defence on T r a d e i n Time o f War, namely,^Miat c o u l d not be a p p l i e d collective sanctions effectively without the exercise belligerent rights, a financial could, be a p p l i e d of sanction ( i n f a c t was a l r e a d y b e g i n n i n g t o apply itself by m e r e l y credits refusing w o u l d o n l y be n e c e s s a r y and t o r e f u s e while any c r e d i t automatically) to I t a l y . t o remain or l o a n . It passive A difficulty in this p r o p o s a l was t h a t o p e r a t e soon enough t o (vi) deter it war. A s i x t h s u g g e s t i o n was t h a t t h e of state for Foreign A f f a i r s a Despatch t o His M a j e s t y ' s Paris setting national f o r t h not aspects particularly d i d not Secretary should prepare Ambassador only the inter­ of t h e q u e s t i o n , and more their vital interest to France, but a l s o t h e p r o b a b l e r e a c t i o n o f an A b y s s i n i a n war on t h e n a t i v e s Africa Empire and France as A f r i c a n Powers . further Italo- throughout - r a m a t t e r which e q u a l l y the B r i t i s h in concerned great The Ambassador would, b e instructed, on r e c e i p t of the D e s p a t c h , t o t a k e tip t h e s e q u e s t i o n s , w i t h M. L a v a l and so t o p r e p a r e t h e way c o n v e r s a t i o n s by t h e M i n i s t e r o f Nations A f f a i r s for on h i s way t o , for League or at, of State for Or eneva * At the request Foreign Affairs o f the Secretary t h e Cabinet agreed o a d j o u r n a d e c i s i o n u n t i l Wednesday n e x t , " J u l y 2 4 t h , in- o r d e r t o g i v e t h e S e c r e t a r y " of S t a t e time f u r t h e r t o c o n s i d e r ' t h e m a t t e r and t o f o r m u l a t e fresh proposals in the l i g h t of the d i s c u s s ! on and more p a r t i c u l a r l y t h e l a s t - n a m e d p r o p o s a l t o send a Despatch t o Paris . m $pUTE IP 2. BETWEEN AND IYSSINIA IIHIOPIA). The C a b i n e t had b e f o r e them the following documents d e a l i n g w i t h c e r t a i n s u b s i d i a r y matters: i n c o n n e c t i o n w i t h t h e d i s p u t e between I t a l y Abyssinia, p l y o f Arms yibyssinia. and namely: A Memorandum by t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r F o r e i g n A f f a i r s ( C P . 147 . ( 3 5 ) ) d e a l i n g w i t h the t r a n s i t of consignments o f arms t o A b y s s i n i a through B r i t i s h contiguous t e r r i t o r y ; the g r a n t i n g o f l i c e n c e s f o r t h e e x p o r t o f arms; a p p l i c a t i o n s from p r i v a t e persons f o r p e r m i s s i o n t o take s e r v i c e w i t h t h e fgvious ference: n e t 38 ( 3 5 ) $elusion 1 ) . i b i Abyssinian forces; the use of retired B r i t i s h Army O f f i c e r s as P o l i c e Instructors in Abyssinia; r e q u e s t s from Abyssinia f o r h e l p from the B r i t i s h Red Cross S o c i e t y ; the p r o t e c t i o n of B r i t i s h subjects in Abyssinia: A Memorandum by t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e ­ f o r F o r e i g n A f f a i r s ( C P . 138 ( 3 5 ) ) e x p l a i n i n g t h e p o s i t i o n under the T r e a t y s i g n e d i n P a r i s on August 2 1 , 1930, b e t w e e n t h e U n i t e d Kingdom, F r a n c e , I t a l y and E t h i o p i a : A Memorandum b y the S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r the C o l o n i e s ( C P . 146 ( 3 5 ) ) s t a t i n g t h a t a d e c i s i o n was r e q u i r e d as t o w h e t h e r any l a r g e consignments o f arms d e s t i n e d f o r A b y s s i n i a s h o u l d be p e r m i t t e d t o b e t r a n s p o r t e d through B r i t i s h Somaliland. The C a b i n e t were i n f o r m e d t h a t 1930 bound us t o a l l o w t h e t r a n s i t British territory condition of or p u b l i c unless Ethiopia o f arms the a t t i t u d e or disturbed peace order. Governor o f S o m a l i l a n d t h a t i n t h e Protectorate ef the interests of e s c o r t s would have t o he p r o v i d e d the c o n s i g n e r ' s available reminded t h a t of of through constituted a threat to In c o n n e c t i o n w i t h the proposal forces the T r e a t y e x p e n s e ) from the m i l i t a r y in Somaliland, or the (at police the C a b i n e t w e r e t h i s was o n l y p a r t o f t h e normal duty the Government and would be a p p l i e d w i t h o u t question i f , question. for e x a m p l e , a caravan o f Only r e c e n t l y g o l d were in the R o y a l A i r F o r c e a t Aden had b e e n used t o ensure the p e a c e f u l caravan i n the h i n t e r l a n d . justification.for this transit of a The I t a l i a n s would have no protesting against a precaution of Kind. On the o t h e r hand, the C a b i n e t were a s s u r e d to provide escorts feeling in i n t h i s way would c r e a t e much that ill­ Italy. On the q u e s t i o n o f e x p o r t the C a b i n e t were i n f o r m e d t h a t we had no o b l i g a t i o n under the 1930 T r e a t y to grant l i c e n c e s Office though i n the v i e w o f the Foreign i t would be i n a c c o r d w i t h t h e s p i r i t Treaty not to withhold of the licences. On the o t h e r hand, the C a b i n e t were reminded t h a t F r a n c e , Germany, Belgium and C z e c h o s l o v a k i a g i v e n I t a l y assurances that henceforth exports had of arms from t h e s e c o u n t r i e s d e s t i n e d f o r E t h i o p i a would b e prohibited. If l i c e n c e s were g i v e n f o r the o f B r i t i s h arms i t would be s a i d i n I t a l y casualties of export that the the I t a l i a n army had been i n f l i c t e d by B r i t i s h weapons and ammunition. W h i l e no arms o r m u n i t i o n s had been t o E t h i o p i a from the U n i t e d Kingdom s i n c e 1934, exported September some v e r y s m a l l consignments had oeen sent Italy. Both c o u n t r i e s British sources. had o b t a i n e d p e t r o l Italy from had become l a r g e l y f o r w a t e r on c o n d e n s e r s s u p p l i e d from G r e a t dependent Britain and was drawing l a r g e s u p p l i e s o f v a r i o u s kinds B r i t i s h East A f r i c a n C o l o n i e s . a number o f motor to from A b y s s i n i a had r e c e i v e d lorries. The S e c r e t a r y of State f o r Foreign A f f a i r s said t h a t w h a t e v e r d e c i s i o n was a d o p t e d , he had p r o m i s e d t o inform I t a l y , and he a l s o p r o p o s e d t o inform t h e French Government and t o t r y t o o b t a i n common action. parties Whatever d e c i s i o n vrere t a k e n , ought t o be t r e a t e d a l i k e . both On h i s suggestion, the C a b i n e t agreed; To postpone the q u e s t i o n u n t i l t h e i r m e e t i n g on Wednesday, July 24th. -8­ SPECIAL AREAS. reports of Commissioners . — Labour P a r t y Resolution in the House o f Commons. 3. ^he C a b i n e t had b e f o r e them a Memorandum, by the M i n i s t e r the l i n e s Resolution o f Labour' (C . P . - 1 4 8 ( 3 5 ) ) of the reply suggesting t o be made t o t h e Labour i n t h e Fou.se o f Commons on t h e day on t h e R e p o r t s o f t h e Commissioners following for Special Areas . (Previous Reference: Cabinet 37 ( 3 5 ) , Con­ elusion 2.) W(jid)l5. The M i n i s t e r o f Labour r e p o r t e d R e s o l u t i o n had now become a V o t e o f that the Censure, The C a b i n e t approved the g e n e r a l t e n o r o f the l i n e s o f t h e r e p l y p r o p o s e d by t h e M i n i s t e r o f Labour ( C P . 148 ( 3 5 ) ) and a g r e e d : (a) That the M i n i s t e r o f Labour should be p r e p a r e d t o speak e a r l y i n the D e b a t e : - (b) Party That the Home S e c r e t a r y should spealc a t the end o f t h e D e b a t e . 4. IlNDlA. The C h a n c e l l o r o f matter o f Suggested use bf Tear Gas tor Dispersing liiobs. urgency the in main o b j e c t i o n gas d i s p e r s i n g mobs and d e a l i n g India. The S e c r e t a r y (previous Reference: -Cabinet 4S^C^) I Conclusion^li). question of whether t e a r c o u l d n o t be used f o r with r i o t s the Exchequer r a i s e d as a of State f o r t o the use o f case^ was t h e danger o f communal crowds. India said that the t e a r gas i n t h a t k i n d o f c r e a t i n g a p a n i c among l a r g e Hitherto i t had o n l y been used t o smoke out armed c r i m i n a l s "brought t o pay i n a house or p l a c e of refuge. The C a b i n e t were i n f o r m e d , h o w e v e r , that the Governor o f Bombay had been a s k e d a few months ago to i n i t i a t e an i n q u i r y i n t o t h e use o f t h a t the m a t t e r was s t i l l 2 , W h i t e h a l l G a r d e n s , S.7T.1.-, 22nd J u l y , 1935. under t e a r gas and consideration.