1 STATION FIRE TELEPHONE COMMUNICATIONS 2 AUGUST 31, 2009 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 c2626_01_09_9002_004255 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Angeles Operations. Hello. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Oh, yeah. Angeles Operations. I -- I live in Malibu, and I was wondering if I should be worrying about the fire. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Huh? Who’s the (inaudible)? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) A darned mess. (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: She said -- well, I -- she said she 17 wasn’t feeling good, and she said (b) (6) 18 and (b) (6) 19 20 21 22 23 (b) (6) Yeah. She said -- (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: She said, “As soon as (b) (6) go, I’m going to leave.” I said -- 24 25 can take care of me I doubt that. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) How are you doing? (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Hi, (b) (6) (b) (6) Oh. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 2 Please don’t, you know, do nothing to her because we do need her. 3 So, but, you know, she needed a little break. 4 But I’m going to let you talk to (b) (6) (b) (6) 5 Oh, okay. 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Hello? (b) (6) 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 (b) (6) 10 11 (b) (6) (b) (6) 24 25 That is correct. And then she can have the rest of Wednesday off. And she’s -- we’re going to put through the basics on Thursday. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 20 23 She’s going to be in Tuesday night and go to her ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 22 She’s actually going to be in, leave appointment early Wednesday? 17 21 ’s going early so she can make it to her appointment. 16 18 He said for me to tell you that -- (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 15 What you need? to be off Wednesday; right? 12 13 Hello. (b) (6) Yeah. She didn’t tell me that. (Inaudible) but I’m just saying, I want to pick up Thursday. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) That’s on Thursday. Then who do I get? Nobody. ANGELES OPERATIONS: You’ve got to be kidding, I’m going down to two? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 2 (b) (6) 1 You and the three boys. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 (b) (6) 3 I -- I’ll give you (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 You’ve got, like, six now. Hell, no. 5 Oh, recorded line. 6 No, thank you. (b) (6) 7 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 10 16 (b) (6) 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 As soon as you figure out how you’re going to do it. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, I’m going to steal back from the day shift. So what day do you want her back on? 17 18 Well, then when do night shift get a day off? 13 15 Well -- -- at least one day off each. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 14 Well, Tuesday (inaudible) day shift it’ll be easier for me to get the day shifters all days off -- 9 12 Sorry. (b) (6) Thursday. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 7:00 a.m.? Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. Because I’ll need one back here to rotate for their days off. (b) (6) Well, I’ll tell you what, why don’t we put her through -- what do you think about Wednesday? Because, I mean, I just want to -- well, no. Then HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 3 1 she’s on Thursday a full day. 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 taking all Thursday off. 4 (b) (6) Yeah. If you’re going -- if (b) ’s Yeah. (6) So maybe what I’ll do is (inaudible) 5 Thursday a full day for her, and then Friday -- starting 6 Friday, maybe a swing shift, like a 10:00- or 11:00-thing. Because I want -- I only want two dispatch people -- 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) -- (b) (6) Well -- -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) -- sure he’s not picking it up? I -- I know it’s a little complex right now. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. Okay. I think something like that would work. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) So 11:00 to 23:30? For Friday? And probably for the duration, or whatever how -- run with that for a while. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. That would probably be sufficient because that would give me somebody in the evening, as well. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. Yeah. Even if -- that sounds good. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. Okay. I will let her know. It’s best not to talk about it if -- if she doesn’t mention it to you. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. She’s going to kill you. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 4 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 15 16 17 18 19 (b) (6) doesn’t want to go to days. She does. ANGELES OPERATIONS: She -- she -- then who do I get for an aircraft dispatcher in here? (b) (6) When? ANGELES OPERATIONS: In the morning. (b) (6) starts getting busy, like, at 4:30, 5:00 with her aircraft stuff. (b) (6) I’d get (b) (6) . ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) ? No. No. That won’t work. That’s too complex. (b) (6) Well, I don’t know, but -Well, then, she can come in 7:00 - 7:00. 13 14 Huh. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 7:00 -- When does she start getting busy? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) what time do you start getting busy with the aircraft, the phone calls and everything? (b) (6) I usually start calling (inaudible) 5:30. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5:00, 5:30. Because if I have to take over the aircraft and do 20 21 the aircraft in that time, then that’s what my job is, is I’m 22 just going to concentrate on aircraft. 23 about when they run in here in the morning and they’re all 24 crazy and they can’t figure out who’s doing what. 25 (b) (6) No. I’m not going to worry Well, we’ll have to figure something out. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 5 1 Well, we’ll try to talk about it some tomorrow. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 3 and tell (b) (6) (b) (6) 4 5 But do you want me to go ahead to plan on this for now, then? Yeah. Because I definitely need to cover Thursday. She -- I mean, it’s a little complex right now to get 6 7 Okay. someone with -- that’s still loading aircraft in it -ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 (b) (6) 9 -- so -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 (b) (6) 11 (b) (6) 13 15 /// 16 c2626_31_08_2009_064202 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 18 (b) (6) 20 See you in the morning. Bye. Angeles Operations. Hey, good morning. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 All right. Bye-bye. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 I will let her know. So, all right. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 Okay. It’s (b) (6) Hey, what’s up, (b) (6) Not much, man. 21 I’ll be in service in that Little T. 22 Can you put me on a 30-minute delay to (inaudible) 23 24 25 too? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. I can do that, brother. Cool. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 (b) (6) 2 (b) (6) 4 Yeah. lost Mill Creek, but the (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 (b) (6) 8 (b) (6) (b) (6) 14 16 /// 17 c2626_31_08_2009_064851 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 25 Later. Angeles Operations. Good morning. How can I help you? 19 23 All right, man. All right, buddy. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 22 burning down Texas Oh, shit, yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 21 Yeah. Canyon. 12 20 I know. That’s the payback for (b) (6) 10 18 Yeah. Mill District. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 11 Is that right? I called our station, they all (inaudible) we -- we 5 6 Awesome, man. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 How does it look over there? (b) (6) Dang, you sound cheerful and happy this morning. ANGELES OPERATIONS: No, I’m not, man. I’ve been up all night, dude. (b) (6) So you’re just delirious? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yes. Call me delirious. What’s going on, (b) (6) HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 7 1 2 3 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 7 8 9 12 13 Yeah, I do. (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: What you got out to do today, brother? (b) (6) Say that again. ANGELES OPERATIONS: I said, what you got planned today? You going to save your part of the district? 10 11 Yeah. End my day with a smile, you know? Well, hey, man, Patrol 15 is in service. 5 6 Yep. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Man, just trying to end my day. (b) (6) Yes, I am. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Oh. I am part of the district. I said, “Are you going to save it?” You know what, dude? I’ll be honest with you, 14 I was telling my wife, we needed this fire just for (inaudible) 15 back in -- 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Not like this, though. You know what? Not -- not with people getting hurt and houses being burned, but -ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, you know the acreage right now is 85,000 acres. (b) (6) Wow. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) This fire’s been doubling every day. Man. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Every day, this fire’s been -- I mean, I’m not talking 5,000 acres run. It happened 20 and HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 8 1 2 3 30,000 acres run. (b) (6) 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: That’s -- that’s catastrophic, man. I -- I’ve never been -- I’ve never seen some -- where 4 5 Yeah. are you in service to, first of all, (b) (6) (b) (6) Area 20. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. I’ve never seen a fire move -- I mean, in Alaska, but not like -(b) (6) Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) -- in California. Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: I mean, I’ve seen it like this in Alaska numerous times, man. (b) (6) But, dude -- No, you’re right, dude. I was over in Big T, and I was like, “Man.” 15 That 16 fire was -- was doing things I hadn’t seen -- only last time 17 was in ‘93 over at the (inaudible) fires. 18 19 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Oh, okay. Yeah, so -- (Inaudible) I -- I hear that. ANGELES OPERATIONS: I (inaudible) yep. You know, to be 5,000 acres one day, 21 and then you come in here, it’s 15, it’s 18. 22 it’s 30-something. 23 now, it’s 85. 24 25 The next day it’s 50. This fire’s five days old. And the next day A couple days later It started on the 26th, I think; right? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 9 (b) (6) 1 Okay. (b) (6) Yep. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 And it’s -- and it’s -- it’s not even a five full days. (b) (6) 7 Right. Right. 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 exactly what time it started. (b) (6) 10 (b) (6) 12 Yep. But it started probably 3:00 -- -- 3:20. Yep. So, dude, man, that’s -- that’s some shit. But just be (b) (6) out there, brother. 15 (b) (6) 16 Yeah. Definitely. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 (b) (6) 18 We will. All right. All right, man. Well, go home and get some sleep in a while. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 (b) (6) 21 All right, brother. All right, man. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 23 /// 24 c2626_31_08_2009_065554 25 Because it started -- I don’t know Yeah, 3:30. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 19 Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 14 And where -- and today is the 31st. 4 6 I believe so. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 3 Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Later. Angeles Operations. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 10 CALLER: 1 Yeah. Hey, this is (inaudible) in Green Valley. The captain -- Engine 237 captain today. 2 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: Yeah. /// 8 c2626_31_08_2009_065724 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) -- captain (inaudible). Hello. Angeles Operations. This is (b) (6) (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah, (b) (6) (b) (6) it’s (b) . Hey, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) (phonetic). What’s up, man? (6) Huh? Engine 18’s in service in Area 8 right now. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) All right. All right, man. 7 9 Engine 237 out of Green Valley -- And you’ve got five with you? We actually got -- I got six -- myself plus six. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. Yourself plus six. The Captain and six. (b) (6) Yeah. And just so you -- I guess (b) (6) 20 21 (phonetic) was -- they -- they planned on her coming out there 22 today. 23 24 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Confirm. But I’ve got her with me. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 11 (b) (6) 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 (b) (6) 3 (b) (6) 5 She will not be there. (b) (6) 9 Okay. guys now? So what they going to do with you To keep you -You talk to (b) (6) 12 (b) (6) 13 No. at (inaudible) yet? I haven’t talked to -- I talked to (b) (6) 14 I’ll pass that on. Thanks, (b) (6) Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 You know when she’s coming? Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 and it sounds like we’re going to be somewhere, you know, Aqua Dolce today. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 Oh, okay. I’ve got you available, Area 8 right now, brother. (b) (6) 18 All right. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 (b) (6) 20 Thank you, sir. Later. Later. 21 /// 22 c2626_31_08_2009_070545 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 Okay. She’s not coming at all. (b) (6) 7 17 That is correct. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 15 Correct. So she’s not coming today, or what? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 11 So we’re squared away on that. Angeles Operations. Yes, Angeles. This is Engine 15. Do you have a cell phone number for (b) (6) at HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 12 1 Division 1? 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 CALLER: 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 CALLER: Okay. No. You got it? I got a pen. Sorry. I’m going to need another pen. 6 7 /// 8 c2626_31_08_2009_070611 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 10 CALLER: 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. Stand by. -- (b) -- (b) (6) -- Yes. (6) Yeah. (b) (6) . /// 17 c2626_31_08_2009_071003 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: Hello? -- (b) (6) . Thank you. 16 All right. Please hold. Hello? 20 /// 21 c2626_31_08_2009_071030 (Inaudible.) (No Audio recorded.) 22 23 /// 24 c2626_31_08_2009_071043 25 Yes. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Angeles Operations. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 13 1 CALLER: (Inaudible) and I’ll be in (inaudible). 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 CALLER: 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 CALLER: Thank you, sir. /// 7 c2626_31_08_2009_075705 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 9 (b) (6) 11 It’s (b) (6) 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) How are you? (b) (6) 16 doing dispatching, or -- 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 21 24 25 I believe that (b) (6) Who’s is doing IA. Who did -- what did you -- what did you have? (b) (6) 22 23 Yeah. Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 How are you doing? Do you know who’s on the console today? 17 19 All right. I’m all right too (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 This is (b) (6) Hi, (b) (6) 12 14 Angeles Operations. This (b) (6) Hi. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 Thank you. Bye-bye. 6 8 Okay. (b) (6) I wanted to let you know that I’m covering for (phonetic). ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Covering for (b) (6) ? And probably some of the Santa Clara -- if you HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 14 1 need me. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 3 I just wanted to make sure he knew that -- direct. Okay. Thank you. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 6 /// 7 c2626_31_08_2009_075758 8 9 10 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 Uh-huh. This is (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: Hi. (b) (6) It’s (b) (6) Hey, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yes, (b) (6) How are you this morning? 11 12 I’ll let you talk to him Hold on. (b) (6) 4 Okay. (b) (6) Are you -- are you dispatcher today? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yes, I am. Oh, good to hear. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yes. Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yes. That’s great. I just wanted to let you know I’m -- I’m on -- I’m covering for (inaudible) probably -I don’t know if anybody’s talked to you, but they 20 21 don’t want the (inaudible) to be (inaudible) it’s time to give 22 them a break. 23 24 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Actually, not -- they’re going strong, right. (b) (6) What’s the -- oh, okay, yeah. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 15 Did they talk to you about it already? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: there. No. No. I just know he’s been out I’ve been -- been on the days for -- (b) (6) Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: know -- I know (b) (6) (b) (6) Yeah. -- a while during this. So, yeah, I been out there going strong. So we’re trying to give him a little break. 8 So I’ll -- I’m going to cover, I think (inaudible) is on too 9 and -- 10 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. And then also Santa Clara. I’ll be at Little T so 12 if -- if I’m closer to something like that, I tell you , you 13 can go ahead and dispatch him there too. 14 15 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 19 20 21 I understand. I just want to let you know. Because sometimes they don’t show up in the cab and they forget. So I just wanted to let you know -- 17 18 Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. Because -- -- to remember, you just got to add him in. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yes. I understand. And I’ll make a little note of it here. 22 What’s the other thing I had? 23 Oh, so you’ll be working on the north side, but able 24 25 to dispatch over to the (inaudible). (b) (6) Yeah. I’ll be at Little T so kind of be HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 16 1 (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 (b) (6) 3 4 Or I’ll be out and about. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 6 (b) (6) And you’re -- and you’re going out to Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 Okay. Super. Good information, (b) (6) 11 All right. And we’ll talk to you later. (b) (6) 13 Thanks, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 (b) (6) 15 All right. Bye. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 17 /// 18 c2626_31_08_2009_081536 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 MR. 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 MR. 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 Okay. Division 9, of course. 9 24 But either way, I just -- (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 12 Very good. wanted to let (inaudible) and -- 5 8 Okay. (b) (6) (b) (6) Yes. Bye. Angeles Operations. Who’ve I got? Hello? Is this dispatch? This is the Angeles National Forest, sir, yes. MR. (b) (6) Yeah. This is (b) (6) (b) (6) I work for the HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 17 1 Mina Polico Canyon up in there. 2 to open up so I can get back in? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 4 (b) (6) MR. 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. 7 /// 8 c2626_31_08_2009_082010 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 (b) (6) 21 22 While this (b) (6) Sorry. Okay. Thank you. You’re welcome. Angeles Operations. Hello? Did I just call Angeles? ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yes, you did. So this is Skeet 71 from the National Park Service. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. Uh-huh. “Hello” isn’t usually the answer that I get when I call the ACC. ANGELES OPERATIONS: “Hello. Well, I’m sorry. I usually say, This is (b) (6) But I’m -- we’re really busy, so I’m just saying -- 19 20 I have no idea, sir. fire’s going, it’s going to be shut down. 5 10 Do you know when that’s going (b) (6) Yeah. I -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) -- Angeles Operations. Right. Angeles Operations. 23 I’m sorry. I missed it 24 altogether, so I’m sorry I sounded confused, that’s all I’m 25 saying. I sounded confused because I couldn’t hear anything. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 18 This is (b) (6) 1 2 Park Service. 3 near my park -- (b) (6) 5 (b) (6) 8 12 13 14 15 16 17 -- and it came from (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 11 c2626_31_08_2009_082137 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Good morning. (b) (6) It’s (b) (6) Hi, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: assignment right now. (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) I am. 24 25 Are you? Are you? I’m still committed to an incident. there. We do I think his name is up on the But -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) I know you’re committed to an I’m -- board for you to call. 23 Yes. Chief (inaudible). Just a brief -- 19 22 Hold on one second. /// have (b) (6) 21 Yes. Thank you. 18 20 Uh-uh. Is he still working? 6 10 I’m 271 at the National I got a phone call this morning about a fire ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 9 I’m sorry. Okay. -- if you have a minute, I’d like to know what’s happening and -ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Sure. -- I hope you’re going to tell me they caught it. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, the (inaudible) Fire Department HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 19 1 is on scene there. 2 are on scene also with the -- the incident. 3 (b) (6) They’re sporting a (inaudible) 76 and 78 Okay. 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 Ventura Fire Department. 6 to the bridge. 7 But she mentioned the bridge at -- Well, the ICP, first off, is 8 Danielson, Pyrode (phonetic) and Sycamore Canyon Road. 9 10 (b) (6) And 78’s with the IC right now, They have two of the three spot fires They said -- I don’t know exactly where it is. Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: And so to the -- that area there by 11 the bridge. So I don’t know where that bridge is because I’ve 12 never been there. 13 Lagoon (inaudible) theme parks (inaudible). Was (inaudible) Fire expecting to have it contained 14 15 in about an hour. 16 down there. 17 basically. 18 19 20 21 But she mentioned bridge at -- at Point (b) (6) So they’re taking five engines right now They’re taking -- they’re taking action, Okay. Very good. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) (Inaudible) small down there. Uh-huh. (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yes. That’s correct. And we’re 22 trying to their traffic right now (inaudible) right now. 23 Chief (inaudible) -- 24 25 (b) (6) So, Yes. ANGELES OPERATIONS: -- are you still there? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 20 1 (b) (6) Yes, I am, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 Have a good one. Okay. That’s where it is right now. 3 So the ICP’s at Danielson (inaudible) Road and Sycamore Canyon 4 Road. 5 they’re doing a fire scene, two to three spots. 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 And a known (inaudible) vehicle right now. (b) (6) There’s -- Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: And to the bridge. That’s what 78 said, to the bridge, or somewhere in the bridge area. (b) (6) Yeah. You and me both. is, but I don’t know the bridge. ANGELES OPERATIONS: No. I kind of know where it I don’t (inaudible). Well, I meant for me, I’ve never been there. (b) (6) It’s really hard -- it’s a hard place to know. But now I can call -ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) number. Hi. Hello? I’ll just call L.A. 78’s phone -- cell phone And I hope at least I’ll be able to text -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. 78 or 76, they’re -- they’re the ones that responded to that incident by now. (b) (6) Okay. Thank -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. Do you want me to call (b) (6) (inaudible) also? (b) (6) No. No. No. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) That’s -- it’s all good. It’s -- (Inaudible) feel good. Let the law enforcement handle it, but -- you HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 21 1 know, I have a list there of who to call next. 2 (b) (6) 3 be back real soon. 4 they’ll -- they’ll keep calling you guys (inaudible). 5 don’t -- I like the phone calls, so thanks a lot. 9 (b) (6) (b) (6) Nope. So But Their -And (b) (6) ’s -- ’s really good for his going to a fire -- (b) (6) 11 should So (inaudible) you still want Sounds like it’s handled. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 12 Okay. me to call any -- anybody else? 8 And (b) (6) (b) (6) And he -- he will be your contact. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 7 ’s up on your white board now. And I think Uh-huh. -- he likes (inaudible) and good for -- he’s helping you guys find a resource order. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 (b) (6) 14 So -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 Yeah. I’ll make sure he’s -- he’s there 16 right now or he -- he’s known about it already by now -- by 17 this time. (b) (6) 18 All right. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 (b) (6) 20 (b) (6) 22 Bye. Bye. 23 /// 24 c2626_31_08_2009_090043 25 You’re welcome. Talk to you later. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 Well, thank you, very much. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Angeles Operations. (b) (6) speaking. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 22 (b) (6) 1 2 Hey, (b) (6) him calling me. It’s (b) (6) All right. 4 know what? 5 doing all the forest stuff, okay? (b) (6) 6 8 Hold -- actually, you Okay. So the communication doesn’t get broken down. Hold on. 9 10 /// 11 c2626_31_08_2009_090111 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 (b) (6) 13 Hey, (b) (6) (b) (6) 15 Hey, (b) (6) Good morning. (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 This is (b) (6) Hi. This is (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 17 I hear I’m going to have you talk to the dispatcher who’s ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 ? We lost all radio here (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 Can you call (b) (6) Yeah. He was saying to reach him on his cell phone when you get a chance. (b) (6) 18 Will you have him call me at 247 training center? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 20 Bye. 21 /// 22 c2626_31_08_2009_095022 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 247 training center. Angeles Operations. Got it. Bye- (b) (6) this Engineer 16, Engine 14. Yeah. That’s (inaudible). Hold on HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 23 1 (inaudible). Can you hold on a second? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 3 (inaudible) station. 4 sounds like. 5 CALLER: 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 CALLER: 8 (inaudible)? 10 They’re on the way now with They’re just getting off the freeway, it Okay. So (inaudible) a little bit. Can you deliver a message for them to call ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 Okay. Sure. Call Little T, that’s your 14; Okay. Will do. right? 11 CALLER: Yeah. 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Bye-bye. 15 /// 16 c2626_31_08_2009_100035 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 CALLER: 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 CALLER: Hi, (b) (6) Good. Bye. Angeles Operations. (b) (6) What’s up? How are you? I’m great. Thank you. I need a number of -- you have an 21 investigator who’s in charge of the (inaudible) fire 22 (inaudible). 23 24 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: number for (b) (6) CALLER: (b) (6) Yeah. . I’m going to give you the That’s our (inaudible) 372 -- ? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 24 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 CALLER: 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Do they -- 5 CALLER: 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Pass me the number real quick. the Forest. (b) (6) 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. 10 CALLER: 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. Last name is (b) (6) /// 13 c2626_31_08_2009_101127 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 MS. 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 MS. 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: You’re welcome. Angeles Operations. (b) (6) speaking. Hello? Oh, yes. Hello. Can I help you? Is this Forest Dispatch? This is -- yeah. MS. (b) (6) My name is (b) (6) (b) (6) 21 lot of times throughout the year -- 22 /// 23 c2626_31_08_2009_101202 25 Bye-Bye. This is the Angeles Forest. 20 24 . Thank you. 12 (b) (6) And she’s our special agent here for . CALLER: (b) (6) . Okay. 8 19 And her number is -- Her number is (b) (6) 4 7 Yep. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. I’ve called there a We don’t have any of that information. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 25 1 CALLER: Uh-huh. 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: I can give you the Fire Information 3 Center, and they can better tell you all that. 4 the information on the fire. 6 CALLER: 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 CALLER: (Inaudible.) Okay. I was given that number the other day. ANGELES OPERATIONS: CALLER: 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. Okay. Thank you very much. 17 /// 18 c2626_31_08_2009_101424 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 CHIEF 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) You’re welcome. Bye. Angeles Operations. Yes. (b) (6) May I speak to (b) (6) I can’t transfer you. speaking. please? I can give you his number to his office. And I don’t know exactly if he’s in his office or not 23 25 They’re very You’re just going to have to keep on trying. 13 24 There are people there. busy with calls. 12 22 It’s area code (626) 821-6700. And I called it and it -- there’s no answer. 10 11 We do not have anything here. Are you ready to copy that phone number? 5 9 They have all because he’s walking around doing a lot of other things. CHIEF (b) (6) Not a problem. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 26 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 CHIEF 3 This is Chief -- this is Chief (b) (6) from (inaudible). You might be able to assist me with some of the 4 5 (b) (6) questions that I have. 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 CHIEF 8 Okay. (b) (6) Okay. I’m the bureau chief out of the San Bernardino unit. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CHIEF 10 (b) (6) Uh-huh. And I wanted to find out on the fire -- 11 as an example, the station fire, where the point of origin was, 12 whether it was with -ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 14 best to talk to (b) (6) Okay. Actually, that’d probably be about. Or the best I can do is give you the Fire Information 15 16 Center number, and they have all the information on the fire, 17 too. (b) (6) 18 CHIEF 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 Okay. So I’ll -- would you like the Fire Information Center number? (b) (6) 21 CHIEF 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CHIEF 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 CHIEF (b) (6) (b) (6) Please. Okay. It’s area code (626) -- (626) --- 821 -- -- 821 -- HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 27 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 CHIEF 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CHIEF 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 (b) (6) (b) (6) -- 6700. (b) (6) 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Thank you very much. 13 c2626_31_08_2009_111204 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Hey. There you are. Are you (inaudible) still? CALLER: 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yes. Okay. I couldn’t reach you on the air, but -- 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 Angeles Operations. Hey, (b) (6) 18 24 Bye. (No audio recorded.) /// 23 You’re welcome. c2626_31_08_2009_102652 12 20 is area code (661) 723-2707. /// 11 17 (b) (6) phone number? That’s his office number. CHIEF 10 Yeah. What’s (b) (6) 7 9 -- 6700. I heard you calling (inaudible). Cool. I appreciate that. That’s good, good, good. I’ll tell (b) (6) CALLER: that you 10-31 and (inaudible). Yeah. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 28 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 CALLER: 3 (inaudible). 5 I don’t have -- I don’t have my radio ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 CALLER: 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 c2626_31_08_2009_114432 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Hey, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) bad spot. 17 Los Padre -- 19 20 21 22 23 (b) (6) speaking. This is (b) (6) 105. Hi. Uh-huh. Okay. -- (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: And I can hear you on the radio over 10-7, but I didn’t know if you could hear me. So I -- 24 25 Angeles Operations. Bye. -- we’ll be in service (inaudible) area -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Talk to you later. But myself and Seven-Edward-Seven from the ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. I’m just calling to give notice, we’re in kind of a 16 18 That’s it. Okay (inaudible). /// 14 I believe (inaudible) is 13. Okay. 10 13 Cool. But Aqua Dulce was hoping you’d call that station. 6 12 Perfect. (b) (6) It was real scratchy. We got on the bottom of Camp HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 29 1 Canyon right now. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 3 (b) (6) (b) (6) 7 -- is that correct? And we’ll be a single unit. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 Okay. So you guys are going to be -- oh, you guys are each going to be single units, then? (b) (6) 10 No. We’re going -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 (b) (6) 12 (b) (6) 14 Yeah. (b) (6) 16 (b) (6) 18 (b) (6) 20 All right. Thank you. Bye-bye. Bye. 21 /// 22 c2626_31_08_2009_114915 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. Thank you. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 Okay. Cool. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 You’re going to double up. Double up. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 You’re going to double -- -- to double up. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 25 So Little Okay. 6 24 Okay. Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 23 So, yeah. Tujunga Road, then -- 4 9 Okay. Hey, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: Angeles Operations. This is (b) (6) (b) (6) speaking. Info 3. Hi, (b) (6) HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 30 (b) (6) 1 2 Do you have a cell phone number for the Big Conga Captain, (b) (6) ? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 (b) (6) 4 Yeah. /// 6 c2626_31_08_2009_114938 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 CALLER: 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) ? (b) (6) 5 10 (b) (6) . Yeah. Captain -- You ready? Yeah. It’s Captain 13, and it’s area code -- 11 CALLER: Uh-huh. 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: -- (b) (6) . ( (b) (6) 13 CALLER: . 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 CALLER: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Great. Thank you. /// 20 c2626_31_08_2009_115144 22 23 24 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Hi. This is (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) You’re welcome. Bye. 19 21 Uh-huh. Bye. Angeles Operations. speaking. from 31. Uh-huh. Hey, I want to update you guys. I’m not available. (b) (6) I’m on today, but I’m at the ICP dealing with some interviews HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 31 1 and stuff like that. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 (b) (6) 3 All right? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 (b) (6) 5 Okay. (b) (6) 7 Thank you. Thanks. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 Okay. Bye. Bye. 8 /// 9 c2626_31_08_2009_120306 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 (b) (6) 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) Angeles Operations. Is this (b) (6) Hey, there. This is (b) Yeah. (b) (6) (6) And I’m going to -- could you have Chief (b) (6) 14 15 me a call at extension two -- 16 /// 17 c2626_31_08_2009_120316 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 19 give I have 22, call -- what’s the extension, 22? 20 CALLER: 233. 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 CALLER: 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Will do. Thank you. 24 /// 25 c2626_31_08_2009_131304 You’re welcome. Bye. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 32 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 ENGINE 18: 3 It’s (b) (6) Hi. over here at (inaudible) on Engine 18. 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 ENGINE 18: 6 Angeles Operations. Hey. Hey, what’s up, (b) (6) You guys wanted me to give you guys a call. 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Hold on. 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Hey. 9 ENGINE 18: Hey. How’s it going? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 12 ENGINE 18: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 ENGINE 18: 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 ENGINE 18: 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 knew that. 19 same. What was that? You’re at Aqua Dulce still; right? Yeah. Okay. Just -- (Inaudible.) That’s what I wanted to make sure. I But just making sure things are still staying the 20 ENGINE 18: 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. And, let’s see, how are you guys doing? 23 ENGINE 18: 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 Good, man. Are you guys still in Aqua Dulce? 11 22 Let me see. Good. Well, like -- like the rest of us, the best we can over here. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 33 1 ENGINE 18: Yeah. 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: All right. You guys are there until further notice; right? 3 4 ENGINE 18: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 change time? Yeah. I mean, until we -- the staffing I mean, as far as schedule limit? 7 ENGINE 18: 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 ENGINE 18: Yeah. As far as schedule goes, we are. Right on, man. They’ll let us know to go somewhere else. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 11 I understand. And -- and, of course, 77’s still there. 12 ENGINE 18: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (Inaudible) let me (inaudible). 14 /// 15 c2626_31_08_2009_131416 ENGINE 18: 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 ENGINE 18: All right. 16 All right. Okay. /// 20 c2626_31_08_2009_132501 Bye. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 (b) (6) 22 Bye-bye. Okay, thanks, man. 19 Hey, (b) (6) Angeles Operations. (b) (6) speaking. It’s (b) (6) Could you give me (b) (6) ’s cell phone number? 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 25 Cool, man. Sure. /// HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 34 1 c2626_31_08_2009_132521 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 (b) (6) 3 Yeah. (b) (6) 5 (b) (6) 7 -- (b) (6) . Thanks. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 -- (6) Uh-huh. (b) (6) 9 11 /// 12 c2626_31_08_2009_151111 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 DEPUTY 15 Operations. (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 DEPUTY (b) (6) Bye. Angeles Operations. This is Deputy (b) (6) (b) (6) speaking. at Sheriff’s Uh-huh. Is there an Officer -- in fact, I’m telling you it’s spelled (b) (6) 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 DEPUTY 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) You’re welcome. Hi. 16 (b) (6) . ( b . -- ( b -- U.S. Forestry Service. With -- with the -- would it be Angeles? (b) (6) 23 DEPUTY 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 -- (b) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 -- Uh-huh. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 22 (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 18 Are you ready for it? Sorry. (Inaudible.) Well, hold on one second. I have to turn down my radio. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 35 DEPUTY 1 (b) (6) What we’re trying to find out is: We’ve 2 gotten some -- we’re trying to verify some information about 3 some people on Gold Creek Road -- 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 DEPUTY 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 DEPUTY 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) (b) (6) Okay. -- that -- that refused to leave. Okay. We’re not -- Now they’re stuck in there. Well, we’re not -- 9 I mean, I’m going to try to help you the best I can. 10 We’re not the communications that’s dealing directly 11 with the fire and more unfortunate stuff. 12 Dispatch. But what -- I -- I don’t know if -- I know some of 13 14 We are the Forest our law enforcement units are out there. But none of -- Hold on one second, okay? 15 16 /// 17 c2626_31_08_2009_151527 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 19 Dispatch right now. 20 /// 21 c2626_31_08_2009_151537 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 23 down right now. 24 /// 25 c2626_31_08_2009_151549 Yeah. I’m on hold with the Forest Yeah. Let me put the other phone HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 36 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 Hello? 2 /// 4 c2626_31_08_2009_151707 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 DEPUTY 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 DEPUTY 9 (b) (6) I’m sorry about that. Hello? 3 (b) (6) Hi. Hi. Hi. Angeles Operations. Is this Forest Dispatch? Yes. This is (b) (6) with the Sheriff’s Operations -- 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 DEPUTY (b) (6) Hey. How’s it going, (b) (6) -- Command Post. 12 Pretty good. 13 Hey, we’re trying to get some information about some 14 people that were stranded up off of Gold Creek Road. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 Hold on, let me -- 16 (b) (6) 17 DEPUTY 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. 19 (Inaudible.) /// 21 c2626_31_08_2009_151810 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 DEPUTY 25 (b) (6) -- put you on hold right now. Let me put you on hold. 20 24 Gold Creek Road? Hi. This is (b) (6) How can I help you? This is Deputy (b) (6) I’m with the Sheriff’s Department Command Post. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Uh-huh. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 37 DEPUTY 1 (b) (6) I’m trying to get some information on 2 some -- apparently a case of you guys first, regarding some 3 people that were caught up on Gold Creek Road. 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 DEPUTY 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) On Gold Creek Road? (Inaudible.) You know, let me have you talk to 7 our -- the dispatcher who’s dealing with all the forest stuff, 8 and everything. DEPUTY 9 (b) (6) All right. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 11 Because -- Because I -- I’m -- I’m unaware of anything. Hold on one second. 12 DEPUTY 13 (b) (6) Okay. 14 /// 15 c2626_31_08_2009_151915 16 -- he might know something. ANGELES OPERATIONS: The best I can do right now is if you 17 call the Fire Information Center, they can give you all the 18 updated information regarding the fire. 19 20 DEPUTY (b) (6) Well, I just want to find out about the people that are stuck up on Gold Creek Road. 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 DEPUTY 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 DEPUTY 25 (b) (6) (b) (6) went back in. Okay. Do you know anything about that? We’re unaware of anything. They were evacuated, and apparently they And they were going to send in a helicopter to HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 38 1 get them. But then -- then Fire said that it was too dangerous 2 to go back in. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 4 /// 5 c2626_31_08_2009_152019 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 DEPUTY 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 DEPUTY 10 (b) (6) (b) (6) Hi. 12 DEPUTY 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 DEPUTY (b) (6) (b) (6) This is Deputy (b) (6) with the Uh-huh. Okay. We’re trying to find out about some people that are supposedly stuck up on Gold Creek Road -ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 DEPUTY 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) desk. 20 /// 21 c2626_31_08_2009_152105 Okay. They gave you the aircraft Hold on just a moment. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 Oh. -- off (inaudible) Canyon. 19 25 Hello. -- Command Post. 16 24 (b) (6) Sheriff’s Department -ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 Just -- just hold on. Hi. 11 15 Okay. Hi, how can I help you? This is (b) (6) DEPUTY (b) (6) Hi. This is Deputy (b) (6) with L.A. County Sheriff -HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 39 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 DEPUTY 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 DEPUTY 5 (b) (6) (b) (6) -- I’m here at the Sheriff’s Command Post. were some people trapped up on Gold Creek Road. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 DEPUTY 9 10 (b) (6) Okay. I -- (Inaudible) we’re trying to verify some of this. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Creek. Okay. Gold Creek. Yeah. (b) (6) DEPUTY 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (Inaudible) information? I have not heard of anything related to that. 14 Again, it was people injured and stuff? 15 What was the thing at the location? 16 17 18 What was the report? DEPUTY (b) (6) We’re trying to find out. We’re trying to verify it. 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 DEPUTY 21 Gold Gold Creek. 11 13 Yes, sir. And we’re getting information that there 6 8 Yes, sir. (b) (6) Okay. We heard forest -- we heard the Forestry was one of the initial informants of it. 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 DEPUTY 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 DEPUTY (b) (6) (b) (6) Okay. Let me see here. You guys haven’t heard of any of that? No. Can I get your name? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 40 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: But hold on one second. 2 3 4 Dispatch. And you say -(b) (6) DEPUTY 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 9 10 11 Uh-huh. -- “Forestry,” were you monitoring a radio channel, or something? DEPUTY (b) (6) Or what did you hear? Well, I just told you. I mean, just we’re getting people coming into our trailer here telling us, have we heard anything about people being stuck up there. And we were trying to verify if they are. 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 DEPUTY 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 Because we’re here in There’s a team handling this fire. 5 7 My last name is (b) (6) . Yeah. (b) (6) Yeah. Have not. You haven’t heard a thing, huh? No. And I welcome you to call our Incident Communications, because that’s the main -(b) (6) 16 DEPUTY 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 DEPUTY 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 DEPUTY 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 DEPUTY 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) What’s that number? Yes, sir. They’re at (818) -- (818) -Uh-huh. 897 -- -- 897 --- 4696. -- 4696. Yes. 24 Communications. 25 know, with the Type I team. And that’s the Station They handle all the coms, because it’s up, you HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 41 We’re -- we’re here in the Angeles Forest Dispatch 1 2 Center. I don’t have any word on anything regarding Gold Creek 3 at all, other than when the fire came through several days ago. (b) (6) 4 DEPUTY 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: I hope that helps. back. My name is (b) (6) 8 DEPUTY 9 (b) (6) (b) (6) , like I said. I will. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 11 /// 12 c2626_31_08_2009_152458 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 REC 27: 15 All right. If you do find something out, feel free to call us 6 7 Okay. Thank you, sir. Bye. Angeles Operations. (b) (6) speaking. Angeles, this is Rec 27, and I’m going out of service. 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 REC 27: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 REC 27: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. Okay. Okay. Bye-bye. 21 /// 22 c2626_31_08_2009_154151 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 MR. 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Rec 27 out of service? Bye-bye. Angeles Operations. Hello? Hello. (b) (6) ’s Operations. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 42 Hey, (b) (6) 1 CALLER: 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 MR. 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 MR. 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 MR. 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 MR. (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) How you doing? Good. 11 MR. How are you doing in there? Pretty good. Yeah. Lots of stuff, man. Pretty good. When you guys get a chance, contact Engine 14 for me -ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 MR. (b) (6) /// 16 c2626_31_08_2009_154225 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 Contact Engine 14, okay. -- ask them to call me at extension 233. 15 So -- so contact 18 -- 18 and 14 and have them contact you at extension 233? 19 CALLER: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yes, sir. Okay. I’ll pass the word. Thank you. 23 /// 24 c2626_31_08_2009_171118 25 Hey, How’s it going, (b) (6) Do me a favor: 13 18 (b) (6) (6) Good. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 It’s (b) Learning some stuff? 10 (b) (6) Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: All right. No problem. Angeles Operations. (b) (6) Bye. speaking. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 43 Hey, (b) (6) 1 CALLER: 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 CALLER: 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 Is 509 still on the ground, as well? CALLER: Hold on. Let me -- hold on one Okay. 7 /// 8 c2626_31_08_2009_171224 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 Yes, it is. Do you have any way of (inaudible) (b) 10 CALLER: 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: (b) (6) (6) Yeah. I just -- 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: Okay. (b) (6) (b) (6) He’s the air -- he’s Air Tact Department. 13 Let me see. But do you have a number to their -- their (inaudible) over there? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 18 /// 19 c2626_31_08_2009_171256 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CALLER: 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 Hello. second. 6 16 It’s Battalion 11. Hold on one second. It’s 723-2580. (Inaudible.) Did you copy? No. It is 723-274 -- 723-2580 is the direct line. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 44 1 CALLER: 2580? 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 CALLER: 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 CALLER: 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Great. Okay. Okay? Thanks very much. 7 /// 8 c2626_31_08_2009_172601 You’re welcome. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 10 Yes. Bye. Angeles Operations. This is (b) (6) Hey, (b) (6) 11 CALLER: 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: this is (inaudible.) Hey. How’s it going? I’m doing alright. How are you? I’m doing good, other than the -- really, I’m 16 pretty broken up about the fatalities that we had up there 17 yesterday. 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: 20 Yeah. That was -- that was the only guy -- that was the only other guy that was on the (inaudible) up there. 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 CALLER: 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 (inaudible). Yeah. (Inaudible.) Uh-huh. So, you know, (inaudible) things happened HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 45 1 2 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. How are you, in regards to your incident? CALLER: Well, that’s what I mean, that -- those two 4 things kind of -- it -- that -- that makes (inaudible) it just 5 makes -- 6 7 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: than you probably thought it was? CALLER: Yeah. Yeah, totally. Because, you know, I don’t know if you heard the 9 10 More seem -- seem more significant reports that we -- that we went over, like, at length. 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: Yeah. (Inaudible) when I was up there. And those fires coming out from down below, I -- I 13 14 kept -- you know, I’m trying to move his truck there. 15 did it. 16 I’m going to die.” And I just kept thinking, “If I go over the side, then And that -- that -- that gets into my head. 17 18 And I That’s when I found out that that’s what happened to him. You know, it just made everything (inaudible). 19 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: Yeah. So I’m going to be going off -- well, between -- 22 between then and now, there is a lot of stuff that I’ve been 23 busy with. 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 CALLER: Uh-huh. Now that the direction is slowing down. I feel HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 46 1 like I’ll catch (inaudible) so I -- I did talk to (b) 2 I’m going to be going into the (inaudible). some, and (6) 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: Okay. Try to take a breath. Yeah. Okay. But, yeah, thanks for, you know -- it was a -- it 7 was a pretty good comfort on the phone, you know, the other 8 day. I kind of -- I mean, I’m trying to keep calm, but it 9 10 was kind of hard. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 12 that. I can tell you that much. CALLER: 13 Well, you do really good at doing Well, the funny thing is I was scared. 14 you know, I can’t even tell you how scared I was. 15 was -- I was pretty scared. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 17 /// 18 c2626_31_08_2009_172832 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 CALLER: Yeah. I mean, I was -- I Well, you did really good, so -- Yeah. Are you all right? No, the most I can do right now, 21 I’m just -- just finally feeling like I can take a breath. 22 /// 23 c2626_31_08_2009_172841 24 25 CALLER: It felt like it’s been one long day between then and now. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 47 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 CALLER: Right. I’m not sure -- a lot of people, between the 3 investigation of the -- 4 /// 5 c2626_31_08_2009_172850 6 CALLER: (Inaudible.) 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 CALLER: Uh-huh. Yeah. You know, and I’m -- I mean, I’m happy. I mean, my -- you know, the biggest thing that was 9 10 going off in my mind was that I felt -- I felt pretty good 11 where I was. 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: 14 Right. And -- and then I think you asked me if I had deployed my shelter. And then I told you, “No.” Because I didn’t want it going out -- and it did. 15 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 CALLER: Uh-huh. Because I didn’t want -- I didn’t want people, 18 you know, doing (inaudible) to get in. 19 helicopters getting -- 20 /// 21 c2626_31_08_2009_172921 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CALLER: 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 CALLER: Or I didn’t want But did you -- I cancelled the drop. Yeah. Yeah. But did you deploy your shelter? That’s -- that’s -- well, yeah, in HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 48 1 the truck. And that’s -- I mean, that’s all -- 2 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Because I know -- -- (inaudible). Because I know -- I know that you -- 6 I know that you had told me -- see, that -- that makes sense to 7 me. 8 sheltered in place. 9 Because I asked you if you, if you deployed and if And you said, “Yeah. In my truck.” 10 And I said, “Did you deploy your shelter?” 11 And you didn’t answer me. 12 13 14 you didn’t hear me, or what. we haven’t -- we haven’t really heard anything else about it. CALLER: 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 But -- so -- See, because I think -- you know, from in here, too, 15 17 And I didn’t know if maybe Right. So besides that -- you know, after what happened that night. So -- I mean, but the overall -- I think the gist of 19 it is that we were just glad that you’re okay. 20 what we did in here was the right thing -- 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 CALLER: -- to keep you safe because -- 23 CALLER: Yeah. And I know that Right. Yeah, I know. I mean, and it was -- it 24 was -- it was pretty -- it was -- it was -- it was comforting 25 knowing that there was people coming to look for me. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 49 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 CALLER: Uh-huh. Because it -- you know, between the phone and the 3 radio, it felt -- I felt like I was connected. And I didn’t 4 feel -- I mean, I felt alone, but I didn’t feel completely 5 alone. You know, I knew that -- 6 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 CALLER: Yeah. I knew that I had -- 9 And -- and -- and that was also why I was afraid 10 because I knew that -- that plenty of us were in -- on the 11 outside, that we would be trying to get in to whoever was in 12 the middle. 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: Right. I was afraid -- the last thing that I wanted was 15 for somebody to get hurt trying to get in, you know, and so 16 that -- that -- 17 /// 18 c2626_31_08_2009_173104 19 CALLER: No. It -- it -- I mean, it helped. And 20 knowing -- and knowing that there was aircraft overhead and 21 they were -- and I -- I knew they weren’t going to (inaudible) 22 because it was so black, it was pitch black. 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 Yeah. And that is why I -- and I cancelled -- I cancelled a drop when I talked to Chief 2. And HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 50 1 then a few minutes late, we grouped (inaudible) until I was 2 trying to coordinate it with you. 3 told him to cancel. 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 CALLER: And -- and I called him and Uh-huh. Because even -- even after that there was -- 6 there was two more -- after that, the sky started clearing, and 7 then it went black again. 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: Yeah. And there was at least two more heat blasts 10 that -- that came down low. 11 (inaudible.) 12 cancelled the drop.” I thought, “Oh, no. 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: 15 18 Maybe I shouldn’t have Yeah. Maybe I shouldn’t have cancelled the drop. But then those last two were -- it was the last ones after that. I mean, total, there was -- I don’t know. 16 17 But now we’re going on to the next There’s a lot. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, there’s a lot. But you -- I 19 think from the beginning you did the right thing by telling us 20 where you were at. 21 CALLER: Did you -- did you hear how I got back? 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CALLER: Okay. No. It’s -- okay. Everything that I -- I 24 mean, I -- I have to be careful with what I say because, like, 25 there’s -- there’s a few investigations going on. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 51 But I can, you know, say what I told the safety 1 2 officer because that can be fire records. 3 when I -- when (inaudible) that’s where I found the truck. 4 too long after that is when I ran into the first fire. 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: And that’s that -Not Uh-huh. And I went into the scene. And when I was -- I 7 went to exit the scene, I was still able to get out of what I 8 got into. 9 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: CALLER: Right. The problem was, just as I was about to come out, 11 there was a new fire that had started behind me at both 12 (inaudible). 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: Right. And so it, you know -- so that’s where -- that’s 15 what the problem -- and it -- it wasn’t a spot fire because of 16 the wind and everything. 17 investigation. 18 19 But, you know, the -- the bottom line is: ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CALLER: 25 I went in -- well, when I -- when I called you -- 20 24 There is a lot going on with the Uh-huh. -- initially -Yeah. -- from -- the first details that they (inaudible) the first time that I could (inaudible) -ANGELES OPERATIONS: Right. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 52 1 CALLER: I went into the fire. And then -- and then on my 2 way out, the place where I was at, or somewhere around there, 3 there was new stuff. 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 CALLER: Right. And -- and -- and at that point, when I thought 6 the fire was transitioning from, like, the beginning stages -- 7 like, within a matter seconds -- because I was watching it -- 8 it, it just started (inaudible). 9 10 And that was when -- the -- the only way to -- to try to get out was to go to into the big bowl. 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: Right. And if I wasn’t able to get through that way, 13 then I -- then I was going to have to stack through 14 on a narrow road like that. 15 You know, I was going to be stuck in a -- in a bowl. 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 CALLER: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: 20 21 the smoke Right. (Inaudible.) Right. So after looking at that, that -- you know, that was when I said that I had fire on both sides. And at that time, I still wasn’t 100 percent sure if 22 I was going to get trapped in that or not. 23 looking for a way out. 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 CALLER: And I was still Yeah. I think that was when -- that was when I gave HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 53 1 (inaudible) and I gave you that location. 2 /// 3 c2626_31_08_2009_173414 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 Right. That’s what you gave me, was 5 50 acres and then some other report on conditions. 6 you were -- you were able to give me your -- your coordinates 7 of where you were exactly at. CALLER: 8 9 And then after that -- by that time -- well, after -- and then -- by the time I was done talking to you, the 10 smoke was completely black. 11 (inaudible) talk to you and try -- 12 /// 13 c2626_31_08_2009_173443 14 CALLER: 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 CALLER: 17 And that was when we knew that (Inaudible) called him on the phone. Uh-huh. And that -- which is fine. I dropped my phone, and I couldn’t find it. 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: Uh-huh. And then I had my personal cell phone, and I 20 couldn’t get reception. 21 froze, the screen went white. 22 that it froze on me (inaudible.) 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 And then I mean, at one point it just -- it And I just couldn’t believe it Yeah. Then after that, then that’s when the phone rang. I could hear my phone ringing. And that was the only one that HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 54 1 I had gotten it. So I literally -- I haven’t -- I didn’t really think 2 3 I could hear it ringing. about talking until -- 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 CALLER: 6 After what happened yesterday? I don’t even -- you know, he didn’t -- yeah. Even -- yeah. 7 Even -- even after I got to 8 Northport -- things have happened so fast today. 9 little -- understand what was -- my brain was really crowded 10 once I got to Northport. 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: 13 that -- that I had to be on the airplane to fly out -ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: I finally understood what my instructions were. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 CALLER: Yeah. Which were, you know, not to worry about checking Northport or anything else, but basically to get out. 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: Right. And I knew that resident wanted me fly. 22 that was spread. 23 /// 24 c2626_31_08_2009_173601 25 Uh-huh. -- at that point. 17 19 Yeah. And then once -- I think it was you that told me 14 16 I’m still a I knew And the houses that were left at that -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 55 CALLER: 1 I didn’t want to take ten minutes to try to 2 convince him that he was (inaudible) helicopter and fly -- 3 /// 4 c2626_31_08_2009_173612 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: Right. It was just a long day in this. Half a day is a 7 long day. 8 morning had it -- I finally got to talk to him, but -- 9 /// 10 And yesterday was a long day (inaudible) this c2626_31_08_2009_173635 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 17 Take a break for a minute -- Yeah. -- and take a deep breath. Yeah. glad that you’re okay. Well, I’m glad that you’re -- I’m And, you know -- You did -- you did everything right. It’s hard -- I 18 mean, as far as what you -- you communicated to us everything, 19 you know, you were able to get us to you and that’s what -- 20 that’s what counts. 21 22 CALLER: (Inaudible) not that -- he definitely he did that, you know. (Inaudible) I was going to hurt that dude. 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. Yeah. That’s true. I’m -- I’m in -- what is that (inaudible). Okay. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 56 1 CALLER: 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 CALLER: 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 (Inaudible.) Okay. (Inaudible.) All right. Well, call me if you need anything, okay? 6 CALLER: Okay. 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 CALLER: 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: All right. Have a good night. 10 CALLER: 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: You too. Bye. 12 /// 13 c2626_31_08_2009_181148 Bye. (No audio recorded.) 14 15 /// 16 c2626_31_08_2009_181336 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 CALLER: Angeles Operations. Hey, how you doing? 19 Edward-5. 20 split. 21 27, 29 (inaudible) on him. 22 Patrol. This is Edward-Edward-7 with We’re on top of Santa Clara divide and Indian Canyon I’ve got a -- I’ve got a individual here. 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 (Break in audio) 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Can I get a He claims to be a Sand Canyon Hello? Hello? Hello? Angeles Operations, (b) (6) HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 57 CALLER: 1 2 Hey, how are you doing. 7. 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 8 9 Hey, how are you doing? ANGELES OPERATIONS: sir. CALLER: Yeah. CALLER: 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: folks everywhere. 14 CALLER: 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Yes. Heard of them? 13 18 Yes, I’m listening, Patrol. 11 17 (Inaudible.) And (inaudible) the Sand Canyon Fire ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 I’m at a -- I’ve got one 7-Edward-7. 10 15 Yes, sir. contact here at Santa Clara divide and Indian Canyon Road. 6 7 This is Edward-7-Edward- Sand Canyon Fire Patrol. We have Maybe it’s some volunteers, you mean? Yeah, I guess he -- he’s a part of HOA down here for the Sand Canyon (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: So he’s a volunteer. CALLER: Yeah. Oh, okay. Copy. Home owners association. Or I mean -- Could I get a 27-29 on -- on that individual? ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. Let me pull it up here for one second. CALLER: (Inaudible) right now trying get people out of here that doesn’t belong here. ANGELES OPERATIONS: I understand. Okay. Yeah, you got a driver’s license number; correct? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 58 1 CALLER: 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 Yeah, I do. CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 CALLER: 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: I’m -- bear Oh, no problem. Okay. Go ahead with driver’s number. DL number is going to be California “B” -Uh-huh. (Inaudible) number is going to be (b) (6) -- Uh-huh. -- (b) (6) . 10 CALLER: 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. One second. I’m pulling it up right now. CALLER: 13 It’s going to be last of (b) (6) All right. 14 first of (b) . 15 (inaudible) Santa Clarita. (6) like (b) (6) Okay. (b) (6) , (b) (6) CALLER: 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 /// 21 c2626_31_08_2009_181544 (6) , (b) (6) , (b) , (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. 23 You said the first name (b) ? 18 22 , (Inaudible) white male, adult, out of ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 17 One second here. with me one quick second. 4 12 Okay. (6) Copy. Okay. Let’s see what I’ve got here. It looks like it’s going to be a 24 (b) (6) , DOB of (b) (6) 25 local town, over just North of L.A. there. out of Santa Clarita, which is a I’ve got HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 59 1 (inaudible) 57155. Let’s see -- 2 3 CALLER: (Inaudible.) 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Let’s see. License status valid, 5 restriction made to a fifth wheel recreational trailer between 6 10,000 and 15,000 pounds. Let’s see. 7 8 Standby for a want and warrants real Otherwise valid out of Santa Clarita -- 10 CALLER: 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. second. That is (b) (6) 13 Okay. 14 E -- let’s see. Okay. And let me just pull this up here one . I’ve got one hit but that’s (b) (6) Let’s see. Male, (b) (6) 15 16 Continuing. quick here. 9 12 Otherwise, valid. . Cool. It hits one (b) (6) Out of Las Palos L.A. 17 Disregard on that. 18 I just had one -- a match, that’s all. 19 CALLER: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 22 23 . Okay. Let’s see. Let me just print this baby instead. I’m just going to have to go get a chair to spread them through real quick. 24 CALLER: Yeah. Pretty common last, that’s why. 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. It’s just coming up with stuff HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 60 1 like -- I mean, on most people, his DOB is different names. But let’s see here. 2 3 Let’s see. Let’s see. Different people. Protection, that’s not him. 4 Then, again, he was (b) 5 Just looking through, I think he’s going to be clean 6 (b) (6) DOB, (b) (6) . Yeah. 10 Just a lot of hits on that That’s definitely somebody else. That’s all I have got. He’s negative 29 with a valid driver’s license out of Santa Clarita. 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 Yeah. . Let’s see. 9 11 . here, but it’s a -- let me just make sure here, one second. 7 8 (b) (6) (2) Sounds good. Could I get a number? You sure can. Let me create a number. 15 CALLER: (Inaudible.) 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Absolutely. Yeah. Just -- in the -- 17 in the -- if it’s kind of a closed area, get out. 18 We’ll call it a -- call it a verbal warning, I guess. It’s going to be instant number (inaudible) 3676, 19 20 3676. 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CALLER: 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 We got ya. (Inaudible.) Yes sir. Okay. And -- (Inaudible.) -- what -- what was that location again over here? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 61 1 CALLER: He told me at (inaudible). 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 CALLER: 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 CALLER: 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 CALLER: 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: Correct. All right. Bye-bye. Thank you. 11 CALLER: You’re welcome. Bye. 12 /// 13 c2626_31_08_2009_193351 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Angeles Operations. Hi, (b) (6) (b) (6) speaking. (Inaudible.) You know what? I haven’t heard. Let me check. 18 CALLER: 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (Inaudible.) Okay. Yeah. Let me check real quick. 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. Thank you. 23 /// 24 c2626_31_08_2009_193443 25 Very good. Sounds good. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 Okay. All right. 10 17 That was the one. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Uh-huh. I’m still trying to figure it out. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 62 1 CALLER: Okay. 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 until 2000, then we find out. 4 CALLER: 5 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: I think they were all extended only 6 So scheduled for 2000; right? Well -- well, I’ve seen them do it -- 7 CALLER: 8 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: 9 Yeah. They didn’t -- they didn’t tell you? until further notice. And I don’t know (inaudible). 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 CALLER: 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. 16 c2626_31_08_2009_200238 19 20 21 22 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Hey. Thank you. You’re welcome. Bye. Angeles Operations. Hello, there. ANGELES OPERATIONS: This (b) (6) of Engine 36. Who? (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: Who is -- who the heck is (b) (6) (b) (6) This is (b) All right. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (6) (Inaudible) (b) (6) Uh-huh. You out of service? 24 25 2000. Bye. /// 18 Okay, yeah. Sounds good. 15 17 I’m on the phone (inaudible) 2000 (b) (6) Yeah. We already parked it -- HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 63 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 (b) (6) 2 “Shit. I don’t think I called you guys.” ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 6 -- in quarters. I’m on my way home right now, and I’m thinking, 3 4 (b) (6) (b) (6) 9 All right. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 (b) (6) 11 (b) (6) 13 /// 15 c2626_31_08_2009_200921 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Bye-bye. Angeles Operations. (Inaudible) Phil-13 out of service. ANGELES OPERATIONS: All right, (b) (6) , (b) (6) Have you had a good day today? 20 (b) (6) Yeah, buddy. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 put you to rest. 24 rest, man. 25 All right, brother. You going to bring it back? 17 22 I’ll catch you tomorrow. Bye-bye. 14 21 I’ll catch up with you. All right. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 19 I’ll put you out of service, Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 18 Okay. man. 7 16 Okay. It was good. See, it’s like I birthed you, and I I put you in service, now I’m putting you to They like that one, huh? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 64 (b) (6) 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 3 Dude, you (inaudible). away. (b) (6) 4 That’s awesome, dude. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 (b) (6) 6 Okay. (b) (6) 8 (b) (6) 10 12 /// 13 c2626_31_08_2009_212345 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: /// 18 c2626_31_08_2009_222901 21 22 23 24 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Later. Angeles Operations. Can I help you? Go ahead. 17 20 All right, man. All right, man. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 All right. Cool. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 You can use that one; all right? Cool. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 19 Man, I gave you life, and I take it Can I help you? Angeles Operations. Hey, this is Info 3, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Hi, (b) (6) Hey, I’m moving the station ICP en route back to Arcadia. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. So you’re going call us when you get in? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 65 (b) (6) 1 I’ll call you when I’m off, yep. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 (b) (6) 3 4 Yeah. I’ve got one stop, but then I’m going to end up back there. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 (b) (6) 6 Okay. 8 /// 9 c2626_31_08_2009_224324 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 20 21 22 Angeles Operations. This is (b) (6) Hey, (b) (6) Oh, sorry. Took me -- take a drink of Gatorade. Didn’t mean to interrupt something important. ANGELES OPERATIONS: You’re not. What’s going on? 18 19 Bye. How are you doing? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Thank you. Hey, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. Thanks. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 10 Okay. (b) (6) Okay. We’ve got -- (b) ’s working on the buses -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: (6) I’ve got a bus for him. I’ve got at least one for him. (b) (6) Tell him (Inaudible) Valley. He’s working on something at the incident. 23 They’re going to -- he’s got one tomorrow for sure. 24 the second one probably will be on in the morning. 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: I got one -- okay. And then If you talk to HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 66 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 him, I got -- possible one for him, too, so -(b) (6) 12 13 14 15 16 If it doesn’t work out in the morning, I’ll tell him to give you a call. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. Because we’re not going to have them there until 1800, so we plan to have some time. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. We’re going to have all the crews off to meet at the S.O. at 2:00 And did -- did (b) (6) 10 11 Okay. say -- did (b) (6) give you a training (inaudible)? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. Okay. You got that? (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 (phonetic). Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) (b) (6) . (b) (6) , whatever, yeah. So you’re going -- you’re going to put a list 18 for us together on what crew bosses and what trainees and 19 what -- what crews and -- 20 21 22 23 24 25 (b) (6) Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) We’ll get you that stuff tomorrow, if that’s okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) -- and send that to us? Yeah. Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: The only thing is that I’m out of HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 67 1 here by 0800. (b) (6) 2 Okay. We won’t have it that early. Who can I -- who can I talk to after that? 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 (b) (6) 5 Okay. Probably (b) (6) (b) (6) . We’ll do that. The other -- just so you know, the -- two of the 6 7 other ones -- we’re still working on a couple more things, but 8 the crew boss for the (inaudible) will be (b) (6) 9 (b) (6) (phonetic). If you want me to just wait and give you the whole 10 11 manifest -ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 (b) (6) 13 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 (b) (6) Let’s give -- -- tomorrow -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 15 (phonetic) Let’s ship the whole manifest to tomorrow. (b) (6) Okay. We’ll do that. ANGELES OPERATIONS: And I’ll let her know that you’ll be sending all the info for the two crews to her specifically. (b) (6) Okay. And are you going to let (b) (6) know to have that guy just kind of (inaudible)? ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. Well, I told (b) (6) “Just give me a call in the morning.” (b) (6) Okay. Perfect. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. At the S.O. 2:00 Okay. Thanks, (b) (6) HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 68 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 (b) (6) 2 Talk to you later. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 (b) (6) 4 /// 6 c2626_31_08_2009_230027 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 /// 9 c2626_31_08_2009_230109 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 CALLER: 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: Yeah. c2626_31_08_2009_234155 20 21 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 All righty. Thank -- thank you. Bye-bye. Angeles Operations. How you doing this evening? Hey, (b) (6) What’s going on, man? I am going out of service. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Out of service. And you have a good night, man. 23 24 Hey. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Angeles Operations. Bye. 17 (b) (6) Angeles Operations. Thank you. /// 19 Bye. This is (inaudible). 16 18 All right. Bye. 5 7 Okay. (b) (6) All right. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Anything exciting going on out there? Everything is kind of slow right now. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 69 1 2 (b) (6) past Vallejo? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 4 5 vicinity. (b) (6) 8 Well, we heard it got in that That’s about all we heard. Wow. Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 7 What do you hear out from the fire -- the -- is it It looks like it is slowing down a little now, but, you know, we didn’t -(b) (6) (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 -- we didn’t -- 10 Huh? 11 I said we in here, so we don’t really get too much 12 13 14 15 16 17 info. Not as much as people think we do sometimes, you know. (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) (b) (6) 20 21 22 23 24 25 And -- (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: Huh? Hello? Still there? I said maybe I’ll bug you guys and give you some 18 19 Yeah, that’s true. updating. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) All right? (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) That’ll be good, man. Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. All right, (b) (6) You have a good night. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 70 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 (b) (6) 2 You too, man. /// 4 c2727_31_08_2009_043059 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: 8 9 Angeles Operations. Yeah, hey, where’s the fire in bottom of (inaudible)? ANGELES OPERATIONS: I’m not sure. I just know that that whole front area there is somewhat active by the golf course. CALLER: 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 CALLER: 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 CALLER: 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Oh, still (inaudible) by the golf course. Yeah. (Inaudible.) L -- L.A. -- L.A. County. Where were the guys killed? At one of the camps. Camp 16. Sixteen or 15? Sixteen. Where is (inaudible)? Oh, brother. That’s the one that’s way up there by Mill Creek. 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CALLER: 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 relation to the Has it passed by Riverwood (phonetic)? 10 20 Bye-bye. Bye. 3 7 Good night. Oh, no. That’s horrible. Yeah. (Inaudible.) How are you doing? How are you hanging in there? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 71 1 CALLER: A lost my whole house, everything. 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 CALLER: 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Did you? Everything’s gone. And I lost my (inaudible). Oh, wow. I know for a while there it 5 was real unclear because they hadn’t gone in there, and I was 6 hearing just three cabins. 7 CALLER: 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 No, it was, like, 30. Well, yeah. And then they kept -- but they never always -- they never really referred to that 10 area. It was just kind of general, you know. 11 last -- last night -- or yesterday, (inaudible) ranger station, 12 residences, ranger residences. 13 CALLER: 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: And -- and then (Inaudible.) Okay. Mill Creek. Okay. Yeah. We lost, you know, ranger 17 station and -- and couple residents there and Cal -- or not 18 Caltrans. I think a county yard. 19 CALLER: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: 22 23 The yard is gone. Yeah, it’s up there. Yeah. Yeah. Now, down in (inaudible). They’ve got like 30 cabins gone down there by the (inaudible) fire station. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, I know that big -- yeah, I 24 don’t know -- I don’t know exactly. It took them awhile to 25 figure out what -- what the count was in there. And I don’t HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 72 1 even know myself. 2 still standing. I just know that the Big T Fire Station is 3 CALLER: Yeah. But (inaudible) cement block. 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 CALLER: (Inaudible.) Yeah. I know of one other neighbor that 6 lost their house -- two other neighbors that lost their house 7 in the -- and a bunch of cabins. 8 cabins gone. 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. I think there’s like 30 I mean, it -- we -- you know, 10 it’s -- it’s still -- the thing is still active. 11 other -- it’s weird because it’s moved all around and -- and so 12 there’s -- there’s certain stations up in the forest that 13 they’re -- that they’re still on a defensive mode up there. 14 They just don’t know what’s going to happen. 15 Chilao and -- 16 CALLER: 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 CALLER: 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: What’s that? 20 CALLER: I mean -- 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 CALLER: 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: I mean, in You know, like Sure. -- and all those -- (Inaudible.) It’s huge. I -- oh. It’s -- (Inaudible.) It’s incredible. (Inaudible.) It’s incredible. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 73 1 Where are you staying at now? 2 CALLER: 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 (Inaudible) off Glenoaks in Glendale. Wow. Yeah, my horses are all here, there, and everywhere, but one of them didn’t make it. 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 CALLER: Yeah. And (inaudible) into the barn. And he’s 8 (inaudible) the Yahoo page yesterday with the barn burning 9 (inaudible) horses in front of it, that’s (inaudible). 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 CALLER: 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Huh. (Inaudible.) I -- yeah, I don’t -- I don’t -- I 13 don’t know. I didn’t -- yeah, I don’t have a TV at home so I 14 don’t watch TV much and -- 15 CALLER: Yeah. It was on the Internet, I guess. 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 CALLER: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: Huh. Yeah. Wow. I’m sorry to hear that. Yeah, (inaudible). 20 I had that guy’s card. 21 go get my -- no, I guess I won’t. You know, (inaudible), well, 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Oh, no -- no, I don’t. Yeah. Well, then I’ll Well, what’s so strange is is 23 that, you know, you -- you -- you -- you become so preventive 24 in the sense of other things that could possibly effect the 25 stability in that area. You know, like people coming in that HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 74 1 are reckless and all this. 2 CALLER: Yeah. 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 been pretty diligent on that. 5 then it’s something like this -- 6 CALLER: 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 CALLER: Yeah. Which is just so totally kind of out It happens. You know -- even know how it started? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 12 You know, and -- and it’s -- and of -- out of control. 9 10 And -- and -- and -- you know, you’ve No, I -- I’m not -- I don’t know. don’t know. CALLER: 13 (Inaudible.) (Inaudible) took off so fast. 14 Well, the point of origin was on the (inaudible), is that 15 right? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 Yes. North -- north of Angeles Crest 17 Ranger Station. 18 want to use a name that’s been used in prior fires for that 19 year. So when they pick a name, they -- they don’t 20 CALLER: 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 I (Inaudible.) So I guess the name that came up because it was close to the station was “Station.” 23 CALLER: Station. 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 CALLER: So that’s how it got that name. The Angeles Crest Fire Station, huh? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 75 1 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. station -- the Station Fire. 3 CALLER: 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 CALLER: 6 Fire Station? Uh-huh. But -- Is that a U.S. Fire Service or an L.A. County (Inaudible.) 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 CALLER: 9 10 Well, yeah, but the -- the Uh-huh. Oh, it’s forest service, yeah. So it was up in the forest where it started, (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah, it’s about -- it’s -- if you’ve 11 ever been up the Angeles Crest Highway -- yeah, it’s just past 12 the -- the second real big turnout at the bottom. 13 CALLER: Okay. I -- yeah, I know exactly where that is. 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 there and -- 16 CALLER: 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. There’s a -- couple residences (Inaudible.) -- and all that. But it’s like -- 18 it’s not like the fire moves through and -- and, you know, and 19 -- and then you don’t have to worry anymore. 20 there’s -- they still don’t know. 21 move around and I don’t know. 22 threatened. 23 CALLER: I saw that. I mean -- I mean I think it’s back up and Because now Mount Wilson’s being And I (inaudible) two guys tried to 24 protect their house in Big Tujunga and got in the hot tub and 25 just about got boiled. And they’re in the burn hospital. They HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 76 1 couldn’t even -- you know, I went through the ‘75 fire, and 2 it -- you know, it came on this side of the mountain one way 3 and then it came on the side of the mountain the other way. 4 You know? 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: Uh-huh. It was -- and we made it. We made it okay. And 7 this time it was -- I mean, intense fire balls that was on both 8 sides of the canyon. 9 /// 10 And I’m telling you (inaudible) -- c2727_31_08_2009_043707 CALLER: 11 -- (inaudible). Oh, between 100 feet, you know, 12 from the -- from the (inaudible) clear up probably 2,000, you 13 know. 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: Uh-huh. It was a line of fire with the flames shooting 16 200 feet in the air. It was roaring like about ten freight 17 trains. 18 By the time they -- they told us, “It’s a half-mile from the 19 ranger station.” It was -- we rode it out in the delta, (inaudible). So we got out first load of people out. 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: Uh-huh. And they said (inaudible) got -- you know, we 22 thought, okay, we got another couple hours. So we were 23 (inaudible). 24 couldn’t even (inaudible). 25 drive to the delta and the fire, you know, (inaudible) ride the We got like 12,000 extra gallons of water. We We had to just get in the car and HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 77 1 fire out. 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 CALLER: 4 Uh-huh. (Inaudible) but (inaudible) house burn from the delta. 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. (Inaudible) horses we just turned them 7 loose, some of them. Some of them we got out. 8 (inaudible) -- they wouldn’t -- they (inaudible) at the bottom 9 of the canyon and wouldn’t let them come in. 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 CALLER: flared up so fast. 13 hours. Everybody thought they had another six You know? 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 CALLER: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: 21 Huh. (Inaudible) it’s just all of a sudden things 12 20 Some of them Yeah. Right. I (inaudible). Wow. (Inaudible.) Yeah. Guess I get a new life because I don’t have an old one left. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, you know, I’ve never been in 22 this situation, so I -- I can’t really say anything that’s, you 23 know, kind of relative. 24 what do you call it? -- a sort of a -- a parallel experience 25 where you can kind of measure it. I always -- I always like to have a -- HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 78 1 Now, I have stuff that’s bad that’s very different, 2 you know, which effected me in other ways and changed my life 3 around. 4 CALLER: Yeah. 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: You know, and -- and -- and when that 6 happened, you know, I thought that, you know, I was wit’s end. 7 But it’s -- it’s -- it’s strange. 8 in ‘85, I lost the use of my legs. 9 10 11 CALLER: Oh, my. ANGELES OPERATIONS: overnight. And it was -- like it happened It was a -- 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 I mean, I -- when I was -- (Inaudible.) -- it was a -- a rare virus. (Inaudible) attack your central nervous system. Right. And -- and I just woke up a paraplegic. 17 CALLER: Oh, I’m terribly sorry. 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, no but -- there was a good side 19 to it. And that’s that I -- I regained -- you know, regained 20 the use to a point where now I use a cane, but I can walk. 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 (Inaudible.) But -- but this happened 20 -- you know, this happened in ‘85. 24 CALLER: (Inaudible.) 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: So I’ve -- and that’s what got me out HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 79 1 of fire fighting, so then I wound up in dispatch. 2 CALLER: 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 6 7 Uh-huh. At least (inaudible) good job. That was a plus for the forest’s sake, I have to say. ANGELES OPERATIONS: So -- but I was just saying, you know, it was really bleak for a while. 8 CALLER: 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 CALLER: 11 (inaudible). 12 What? (Inaudible.) Yeah. It’s going to be real different. ANGELES OPERATIONS: I don’t -- But you -- you -- you’ll interject -- 13 people are very resilient and they -- and they interject 14 normalcy into their life, and pretty soon, that normalcy, you 15 know, takes on a -- a life of it’s own. 16 CALLER: Yeah. Well, that’s right. Guess you got to keep 17 going. I mean, they wouldn’t even let -- you know, my husband 18 was in a hospital bed in our living room and three guys had to 19 carry him out and they wouldn’t let us take the oxygen 20 (inaudible) too flammable. 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 CALLER: Oh, yeah Some guy from Montecito, California. And all of 23 a sudden, it was really unbelievable because all of a sudden he 24 got up and he said, “You know what” -- 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Uh-huh. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 80 CALLER: 1 -- “I’m going to walk out of here, because 2 they’re -- they’re not going to carry me. 3 I -- I (inaudible) leave, I’m going to walk out.” 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 CALLER: 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 CALLER: 8 9 10 11 it. Yeah. Yeah. I said (inaudible). But -- This is not a survivable fire. I’ve been through This was not one of them. 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: 14 Yes, he did. And (inaudible), and he said, “I can do ANGELES OPERATIONS: a few. And he did. Huh. He walked to the car and got in it. I (inaudible).” CALLER: It’s in my house and Yeah. Yeah. When I saw everything that was coming -- it was -- the whole canyon was full of fire. 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 little one earlier this year. 17 CALLER: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: The whole thing. Well, I drove through just after that Right. 19 three acres? 20 CALLER: 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: You know, I don’t know what it was, Yeah. You know? And I was amazed that, you 22 know, everything was -- the hills were so steep there and along 23 the sides, and it was still smoldering and they had fire 24 fighters all over the area, but it was like, you know -- I 25 can’t imagine, you know, the -- the -- everything on fire. I HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 81 1 mean, it would -- it would just -- 2 CALLER: (Inaudible.) 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: Just be insane, you know. (Inaudible) when the fire passes over you with 5 all the smoke, it just -- it just gets totally black. 6 it -- you know -- so (inaudible). 7 don’t (inaudible). 8 we were down at the delta, and he yelled all the way out the 9 canyon. I head him going. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 CALLER: 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: Wow. I know he -- I know my (inaudible). Huh. He (inaudible). And I saw him go out. He was -- he was (inaudible). So I know he’s okay. 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 CALLER: 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 CALLER: 19 And, you know, I usually You know (inaudible) he screamed at me when 10 14 And then Wow. (Inaudible) -- isn’t that wonderful? Yeah. Yeah. But I don’t know how anybody else made it. We had a bobcat (inaudible). 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: Uh-huh. (Inaudible) and a mountain lion that’s been 22 hanging around and I just hope they got (inaudible), because 23 where were they going to go? 24 (inaudible) follow them, you know? 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Everywhere they ran it Yeah, yeah. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 82 CALLER: 1 2 (Inaudible.) (inaudible) it is on the back side? 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 (Inaudible) Bear Divide, is it up in -- in Bear ANGELES OPERATIONS: It -- it’s -- it -- we -- I haven’t heard of any particular -- no, not at Bear Divide, because -- 8 CALLER: 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 What do you -- back -- Divide yet or -- 6 7 You know how far back on the Condor Peak, did Condor Peak burn, do you know? No, I don’t know that. The -- the only thing in that general area is North Fork. 11 CALLER: Right. 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: You know, but we had -- we had law 13 enforcement officers up in the Bear Divide, Dillon Divide area 14 last night chasing out the public because they were -- 15 CALLER: 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 Oh, my God. Oh, yeah, they were moving the barriers and they wanted to drive up there to -- to -- 18 CALLER: Take a good look. 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. Yeah. You know, so -- but, 20 see, the information is -- is -- is -- is real piecemeal. 21 we -- all day our -- our job in here -- because we’re not -- 22 we’re not -- unless new fires start, we’re not -- we’re not 23 fighting the -- the -- that fire. 24 team. 25 When It’s turned over to the fire And they’re -- and -- but we’re -- but -- but we’re HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 83 1 monitoring everything else, and -- and -- and it -- and it’s 2 just a job tracking everybody running around out there because 3 the fire is concerned with the edge of it as it’s spreading 4 into the urban areas. 5 the hills where forest service people live. We have all sorts of facilities up in 6 CALLER: 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 (Inaudible.) We’re not getting any real help from the -- from the -CALLER: 9 10 And basically -- (Inaudible.) We had nobody. We had nobody because nobody was there to help us (inaudible) -- 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: Yeah. -- (inaudible) -- Montecito. Uh-huh. And I didn’t have one county fire. 15 have any air support. 16 side. We didn’t They were all over on the La Canada 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 CALLER: 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 CALLER: 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. It was terrible. Yeah. On -- up there at Bear Divide what happened? Well, just -- they’re just get -- 22 getting the public out of there and -- and I -- I kind of lost 23 my train of thought but -- but we have people -- everyday we 24 have people that -- that the forest service is basically trying 25 to take care -- or protect their own resources up there because HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 84 1 so much of the concentration of the actual organized fire 2 fighting is being done in the areas that are constantly 3 changing, the dynamics are changing. So -- so we have people that are going up into the 4 5 woods during the -- during the daytime trying to take an 6 assessment on what we have and what we can protect, and so our 7 whole job in here a lot, during the day, if there’s no other 8 new fires, is just trying to keep track of where our people 9 are. You know, because -- because you just never know, you 10 know. 11 -- it’s just totally crazy. CALLER: 12 13 14 15 16 And -- and, you know, there’s -- it’s crazy. that? (Inaudible) up at Mill Creek. It’s just How did they do What happened? ANGELES OPERATIONS: I don’t really know much about it. It’s still -- I don’t really know, you know. CALLER: (Inaudible) something happened and they -- maybe 17 they couldn’t (inaudible) from the smoke, because they said the 18 truck rolled down the mountain. 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: You know, it -- very likely if -- if 20 that was -- if that was the -- occur up there. 21 never up that area, but it’s -- 22 CALLER: 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: It -- I’ve (Inaudible.) It’s mountain roads, you know, and, 24 you know, one side is a -- in an incline and one side a steep 25 incline and one side’s a steep decline. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 85 1 CALLER: 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 Yeah. And it twists and turns. you’re driving in the blind, I would imagine -- 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: (Inaudible.) You know -- (Inaudible) said one guy was from San Bernardino. 7 And the other guy was (inaudible). 8 were killed. 9 And if (Inaudible) two guys that It’s just terrible. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. 10 CALLER: 11 (inaudible). 12 sitting here and the (inaudible) still on (inaudible). 13 That is just terrible. And -- so it’s not I guess it’s not working (inaudible) because I’m ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, you know, when we -- when they 14 had that stupid digital trans -- transference, our -- our 15 reception never -- never happened. 16 CALLER: 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 (Inaudible.) I got the converter box and we were never able to to get any stations. 19 CALLER: (Inaudible.) 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: So I -- we just don’t have a TV. I 21 don’t -- you know, haven’t watched it for almost a month now, I 22 guess, or whatever it is. 23 24 25 CALLER: But they said that Mount Wilson was -- it was -- the fire was roaring up -- up to the observatory. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 86 1 CALLER: (Inaudible.) I don’t know. 2 big fire, isn’t it? 3 acres by now, probably more. It’s about -- they said it’s about 40,000 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 CALLER: 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 and it’s still changing. 8 has their own ideas how big it will get. 9 guess work. I think it’s a little over 40,000. (Inaudible.) 10 CALLER: 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 It’s pretty awful And that’s -- and they -- and they -I -- there’s -- you know, everyone I -- I mean it’s all (Inaudible.) But I -- I’ve had -- I’ve heard estimates as high as 106,000 by the time it’s over. 13 CALLER: By the time it’s over. 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. (Inaudible.) Well, and you know something, the 15 five percent, they had the five percent in the early stages. 16 And when the acreage increases, they still have the five 17 percent. 18 CALLER: Oh. 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 (inaudible) containment. 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: It isn’t -- there’s no percentage No. I’m telling you, the five percent is 23 silly. 24 just -- it’s -- it’s miniscule. 25 That’s like -- that’s like, you know -- you know, it’s CALLER: It’s like -- (Inaudible.) HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 87 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 -- you know, it’s like the -- it’s 2 like a lottery for -- for a thousand dollars, and -- and -- 3 and -- and you win 20 bucks. 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 (Inaudible.) I mean, what’s (inaudible) five percent. 7 CALLER: (Inaudible.) 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: Yeah. (Inaudible) clear into Acton. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 Yeah, the 14 is open. I mean, that’s 11 how I get to work everyday. 12 mandatory evacuations. 13 know, what in Acton is lost, or -- or potentially lost. 14 haven’t -- we don’t really have that -- that much. CALLER: 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 CALLER: But I don’t know anything about, you 15 18 19 gone. And only parts of Acton have been I -- I (Inaudible.) Yeah. Mill Creek is gone. Let’s see, what other one is Mill Creek burned. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Mill Creek and -- and that’s -- 20 that’s -- that’s only the -- the only official one that I’m -- 21 that I’m really aware of. 22 in the vicinity before people got out of there. 23 -- no one’s been up there since then and -- and unless somebody 24 is flying over it to see it -- 25 CALLER: Lot of the other ones that was fire And so I don’t (Inaudible.) HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 88 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: You know, they can’t tell and -- and 2 from what I know, they -- you know, they -- no one’s reported 3 anything because they can’t see. 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: There’s too much smoke. But (inaudible) incident might be involved? North Fork, maybe. North Fork. North Fork. You know, I would 7 believe that because when we were down there in the valley, we 8 had to go out, you know, out, like, Plummer, out in the west 9 valley. 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 CALLER: Uh-huh. Oh, my God. And it got into some of the 12 (inaudible) there. 13 was just unbelievable. 14 I’m sure plenty of people (inaudible). 15 16 It was unbelievable. (Inaudible) the cloud ANGELES OPERATIONS: I’m so sorry I didn’t have a camera but Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah which -- with the -- yeah, camera phones and -- 17 CALLER: Unbelievable. 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: Yeah. Unbelievable plume of smoke. 20 it was a thousand feet high. 21 an atomic bomb. I mean it was like I’m not kidding you. It was like It was huge. 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. 23 CALLER: 24 (inaudible). 25 I had a -- I had a -- I had a cat (inaudible) program I mean -- and it went for miles across, Well, I just feel bad for my one horse and my -- HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 89 1 (inaudible) and we just had to turn them loose, you know. 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 CALLER: 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 CALLER: Yeah. (Inaudible) down to get them. Oh. Oh, yeah, and, you know, I just -- I don’t know. 6 It’s really hard (inaudible) turn the horses loose in the big 7 arena. 8 just threw us in our car and they took our (inaudible) and just 9 ripped them out of our hands and said, “Go, go.” And that was pretty scary. 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 CALLER: And then we just -- they Huh. We don’t -- we had the clothes on our back. And 12 by the time the fire was already up on the high side of 13 (inaudible) the north side of Big Tujunga, so we couldn’t even 14 exit Big Tujunga. 15 into the delta and rode it out. We just turned down our driveway and went 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 CALLER: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: Huh. It’s pretty interesting. (Inaudible.) Wow. We just kept going from one -- 20 there’s a big, dirt parking lot down there, and (inaudible) off 21 into the creek, you know. 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CALLER: Yeah. Right. And we just kept driving from one side to 24 the next. When the fire wall came on this side, we’d drive to 25 the other side, you know, and tried to make it. You know, HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 90 1 (inaudible) car. 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 CALLER: 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 CALLER: 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 CALLER: Wow. So (inaudible). We made it. Well, that’s what counts. Yeah, that’s right. You know? These poor fire fighters lost their lives. 8 That’s horrible. 9 /// That’s terrible. Trying to -- 10 11 /// 12 c2727_31_08_2009_045103 13 14 15 16 17 (b) (6) -- a job for everybody here. again (inaudible) it is on Fox News, you know, about the fire. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: It’s kind of a curse and a blessing 18 living in Southern California. 19 the fires. 20 21 Here we have it (b) (6) Yeah. I -- frankly, I’ve had it with Me, too. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Now, they go through this -- and we 22 haven’t even gotten into Santa Ana season yet. 23 with that nonsense. 24 25 (b) (6) And it’ll start And it was wind on this thing -- Oh, my God. ANGELES OPERATIONS: -- you know. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 91 (b) (6) 1 2 We’d been back -- we’d all been back one -- one day. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 (b) (6) 4 All that driving Monday. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 (b) (6) 6 Yeah. Yeah. And it -- (Inaudible) and it would ruin, like -- I -- I grew 7 up in tornadoes and I heard tornadoes that were less than this, 8 but like that whole town’s (inaudible) you know. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 (b) (6) 10 Uh-huh. And it’s a perfect day for strong wind right on 11 the line, but -- but what really is amazing to me are -- it’s 12 like okay, it’s on the top, that’s all right. 13 you know. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 (b) (6) 15 16 That’s workable, Uh-huh. And then all of a sudden, under the -- you know how it has more peaks than valleys? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 (b) (6) 18 Right. Well, all of a sudden, the whole wall came around 19 it. 20 of the hills. 21 (inaudible) brand newly built with every updated fire 22 (inaudible) about two months ago. 23 24 25 And it was wall-to-wall fire from the streets to the top Just a huge wall. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) And there was a house that Uh-huh. Every updated building code that they request for the buyer -HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 92 1 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) -- to buy it. 3 grass around it. 4 the side of the hill. 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Yeah. The heat from the fire just melted the house. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Wow. That’s how hot it was. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Uh-huh. So probably 500 feet, it burned to the ground. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) And it didn’t have one blade of It was all very (inaudible) all the way down ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Uh-huh. Yeah. Huh. Well, it was amazing. It was like a 13 stucco, it’s a neat looking thing, with tile on the outside. 14 mean, it had hardly any windows in it. 15 It wasn’t like it was a bunch of big glass windows that were 16 going to break and suck it in, you know? 17 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Oh, man. I The windows were small. Right. And it is gone, along with my house. 19 And another -- I know of four residences that are gone -- five 20 residences, private residences that are gone. 21 tell me, and I saw the (inaudible) go, you know. 22 23 24 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) People like to Did any make it in there? Well, I’m certainly beginning to wonder. You know -ANGELES OPERATIONS: How about the one that with -- with HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 93 1 that crazy lady, Canyon -- Canyon (b) (6) ? (b) (6) 2 (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 You know that -- Do you remember that one that 4 everyone always calls on, the one that’s -- the guy moved out 5 and it was -- and it’s her -- his ex-wife -(b) (6) 6 Oh, no. Oh, yeah. 7 No. 8 woman, I think she was on (inaudible). 9 That’s gone. Oh, no. She went, yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: That’s -- oh, man. What was she doing? That I heard -- I heard more about her 10 story from the people down there that would tell me about it, 11 you know, all the different peculiar weird things with here and 12 I swear, that was unbelievable. 13 (b) (6) (Inaudible.) I never -- they were so far down 14 from me that, you know, they were pretty far up the canyon. 15 Well, two mile up the canyon. 16 talking about. 17 18 19 20 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) No. But I know exactly who you’re Yeah. I think she left. I think she finally left back -- all this hadn’t begun, every one of them. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. Wow. Every one of them. I think that they lost 22 30 cabins in Big T alone. 23 the brush fires (inaudible) they just got done in April. 24 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) And, you know, they can see the map, Uh-huh. At the -- no. At the end of May. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 94 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 (b) (6) 2 Uh-huh. And then they did a huge -- huge -- I don’t know 3 how many acres all around the Big T station and all around the 4 cabins, all around all the cabins (inaudible) Canyon. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 (b) (6) 6 (b) (6) 8 9 And all those cabins have been (inaudible) so -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 Uh-huh. Wow. It’s just that kind of a thing, you know? real different kind of fire. Just Even though there was no wind, it 10 made so much smoke it just hung over the fire that’s been 11 (inaudible) air -- 12 /// 13 c2727_31_08_2009_045504 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Right. You know, that’s still a 15 problem. 16 mean, the -- it’s so thick with smoke. 17 There’s still a real problem with doing that. (b) (6) Yeah. I Well, it’s taking all (inaudible) the fuel 18 around on the mountain -- it’s 40 years old, hasn’t burned 19 since, what? 20 21 1975, the ‘75 Mill Fire. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Uh-huh. So -- well, the whole city it going to be 22 devastated because just the little I saw driving out of the 23 (inaudible) and they wouldn’t even let us go 50 feet 24 (inaudible) down here and then they didn’t -- they just let us 25 drive by our house as it was burning. And they wouldn’t let us HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 95 1 go to the front of the house. 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 3 Uh-huh. It was all to the ground, every bit of it, down -- 4 just down to the ground. 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 6 Yeah. Huh. And they wouldn’t let us go even south 7 of -- to the side of the canyon when the firemen (inaudible) 8 past. 9 know, how the (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 (b) (6) 11 12 And we got a little further up on the mountain, you Every phone line, every electrical pole, everything’s gone. It’ll be months. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 (b) (6) 14 (b) (6) 16 That’ll be months. Yeah. (inaudible) get on it. 18 (inaudible) -- 19 /// 20 c2727_31_08_2009_045621 23 24 25 (b) (6) Wow. So, I don’t know. 17 22 Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 21 Uh-huh. I’ve got free Internet access here We got one of those extended stay things. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) I don’t need my phone Uh-huh. We just finally made it through (inaudible) and they have dinner. And they have -- they -- you can get internet service HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 96 1 now for your phone and that’s (inaudible) on the phone, and all 2 of that stuff. And getting my husband’s medicine and his glasses. 3 4 And I don’t have the nerve to get all this together, but we’ll 5 do it. 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, this -- there’s -- there’s 7 going to be a lot of -- you know, a lot of focus on -- on the 8 support stuff, once -- 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 (b) (6) Uh-huh. ANGELES OPERATIONS: -- once the -- once the -- no pun intended -- once the smoke settles -(b) (6) Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) -- you know. (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: You know, I -- I just got a feeling 16 that there’s a lot of -- a lot of stuff in the wings that -- 17 that have yet to -- that have yet to go into play. 18 But there’s -- the -- the situation is so fluid right 19 now that -- that, you know, it -- it -- it -- even if it’s 20 organized, it -- there’s an element of disorganization about it 21 because the numbers keep changing. 22 keeps changing. 23 The -- the geographic area So the -- there’s a constant reinventing different 24 ways of accommodating things and -- and it tends to make 25 everything a bit unsettled. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 97 But once -- once this thing gets settled, then, you 1 2 know, the -- the -- I think they’ll -- they’ll -- that that 3 whole community front there -- you know, from -- well, from 4 Altadena all the way over to -- well, they say there’s -- 5 there’s fire now going towards Lake Utterance. 6 7 8 9 (b) (6) in line, yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Yeah. So it’s -- Coming right -You know what it’s doing? 10 11 I’m sure it has been because that would be right It’s running (inaudible) that’s what it’s doing. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. They was going to put this fire out on (inaudible) fire to burn last year. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Right. It already burned. That’s the only thing that’s going to put it out because there’s nothing else left to burn. ANGELES OPERATIONS: And then the other way, it’s going to probably run into the Morris Fire. (b) (6) Right. Oh. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. My goodness. ANGELES OPERATIONS: If it keeps chugging along the front there -(b) (6) Oh. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 98 1 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. -- you know. And the only thing that’s going to stop it 3 is no fuel. 4 had this other fire, so -Yeah. 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 And the only where -- there’s no fuel is when they It effectively burned the entire Los Angeles River Water Shed in a few minutes. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Isn’t that terrible? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Huh, yeah. Yeah. (Inaudible) it used to be (inaudible) the (inaudible) district. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. Wow. I mean, that’s part of fuel reduction, isn’t it? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Huh. In (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) I was there then. It effectively burned the whole thing. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Uh-huh. Tell me about it. Here come the (inaudible) now. And they’re supposed to have it on (inaudible) never stopped (inaudible) -ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, they -- they’re -- they’re 22 still hemming and hawing about whether -- you know, what that’s 23 going to entail for Southern California, though. 24 25 (b) (6) I -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: Because if it’s a mild -- if it’s a HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 99 1 mild el nino, it could actually mean no -- no rain again. 2 Because one of the -- like, the drought’s been going for three 3 years. 4 though, oh, we get a little mild rain. And one of those years was a mild el-nino and everyone But we -- we -- we didn’t get any rain in anyway. 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 I don’t know how that’s going to really -(b) (6) 15 (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) -- play -- play out -- Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) -- so -- Well, thank you for the update. I’ve enjoyed knowing you. If it’s (inaudible) really soon, I’ll call you, but 13 14 we’ll see. We’re going to get (inaudible) you know? ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, get on the ball with that as 16 quick -- you know, because if there’s more people that are 17 added into the mix, it’s just going to draw it out longer. 18 19 20 21 22 23 So (b) (6) Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: And so you want to get -- you want to get your input in there as early as possible -(b) (6) Right. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) -- you know, just -- I’m going to go to the Evacuation Center and see 24 what -- see -- in North County, they have emergency money for 25 things, I know, you know? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 100 I know they’ll give us emergency food stamps, and 1 2 stuff like that. 3 and see how it works -- 4 5 You know, they’ll do that. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) So we’ll try that Yeah. -- you know? I’ve helped other people before, but I never really 6 7 thought about it for myself, so I need to go and just try to 8 walk through it. 9 the girls -- explain get a job but (inaudible) over the top of It’s all -- if we walked out to (inaudible) 10 the horse (inaudible) it was horrible. 11 to go back for the horse (inaudible) you know. 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) We have Yeah. It’s -- yeah, horrible. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) It’s horrible. Okay. Wow. I’m -- I’m sorry for the firefighters, that’s terrible. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. San Bernardino and (inaudible) had 26 years at the -ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) -- (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Wow. Huh. That’s horrible. Wow. Horrible. Well, you take care. And I will call you again with an update, and -- maybe one of these days. We’ll be back up in HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 101 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Big T -ANGELES OPERATIONS: Do -- do you have the number to the -(b) (6) You mean at the fire place. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, at the -- at the -- at the supervisor’s office, they have a fire info number. (b) (6) I’ve got that. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. You know what? 10 morning. 11 don’t know. 821-6700? I -- they don’t answer this They’re probably trying to close, you know. They’re not answering the phone, but, you know, 12 13 they -- you’ve got more information than they do. 14 did get a fire map to Big T, isn’t that terrible? 15 16 17 18 But I ANGELES OPERATIONS: They never Well, you know, we don’t have a fire -- we don’t have any fire maps in here either. (b) (6) (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. I mean, as far as what -- what 19 we could have, there’s -- there’s -- there’s been some problems 20 with communications with -- with our radio systems and, you 21 know, being effected because some of the repeaters, they run on 22 solar power. 23 24 25 (b) (6) Uh-huh. ANGELES OPERATIONS: So they -- they haven’t been able to replace the dead batteries. So some of the mountain tops now HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 102 1 2 3 4 are down. (b) (6) Oh, that’s what it is. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. I’m -- Yeah. (Inaudible.) You know, they kept -- they 5 were the ones that were saying that they were going to get the 6 fire, you know (inaudible). They let it burn for two days down Grizzly Flats and 7 8 too bad they didn’t put it real hard in that would have stopped 9 it, you know, right there, I mean. 10 11 12 But who knows. Who knows (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. (Inaudible) back of it. I said, “No.” I mean, it 13 just all of a sudden -- but they -- we talked to them for six 14 hours and they said it was 20 minutes. 15 16 17 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. That’s quite a difference. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. Huh. Quite a bit -- yeah. If I came here and get 19 (inaudible) over the top, probably in six hours you probably 20 got six hours, you know. 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 (b) (6) Okay. Wow. Well, so we were getting everything out. 23 And -- then all of a sudden they came and said that they have 24 to (inaudible) and then they came and said, “It’s here.” 25 it was, like (inaudible). And HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 103 1 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. Wow. Oh, yeah. And that was just L.A. that just 3 got into to fuel and it just started sticking and it just went 4 through -- it went through three miles in nothing flat. 5 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Isn’t that -- yeah. 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 CALLER: 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 11 12 13 14 15 (b) (6) there. Huh. Isn’t that crazy? Wow. On both -- both sides of 18, both sides. Yeah. Wow. Well, anyway, it’s been a wonderful life up I’ve enjoyed (inaudible) of memories. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. I -- I -- I used to live in the forest for 12 years, behind JPL. (b) (6) Oh, you did? ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. Off the canyon there, about a 16 mile in there’s a report -- there’s four forest service 17 residences. 18 19 20 21 (b) (6) Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) And it’s still there. Is it? ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. But, I mean, there’s still -- 22 but -- but they don’t -- you know, it’s -- the burning is all 23 around it. 24 25 (b) (6) But the residences are still in tact. (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: And then -- and then there’s -- then HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 104 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 there’s Chantory. (b) (6) (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: And Chantory is that is still there, but I don’t know because -(b) (6) Did the large canyon make it? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) The what? (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, everyone got out. I don’t know if it still exists anymore. (b) (6) Yeah. I don’t think so. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. I heard all those cabins burned in there. I imagine all those cabins are gone. ANGELES OPERATIONS: I can’t see how they -- they -- they wouldn’t not be effected. (b) (6) I don’t -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: There’s just too much -- there just too right up against it, though. (b) (6) Yeah. And what really got us is (inaudible) when the fire was on the first (inaudible) Pinata. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Uh-huh. That (inaudible) Canyon is made for the old bandits back then. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. So is Vallejo. Yeah, Chileo. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 105 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 2 man. Means -(b) (6) 3 Chileo was his -- was his strong arm Is that right? 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 supposedly had a temper. 6 they used to run stolen horses up at Horse Flats, that’s where 7 it got its name. (b) (6) 8 And he And that’s why it’s in Chileo and That’s right. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 -- means hot chili. Now, Horse Flats is where? Horse Flats is on the -- on the north 10 side of Montpelier, which is basically the mountain that’s 11 right -- nestled right behind -- right above Chileo Ranger 12 Station. (b) (6) 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 (b) (6) 15 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 18 Uh-huh. They used run the -- they used to steal the horses ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 21 there. Uh-huh. That’s -- they took some up in Trail Canyon, too. (b) (6) 24 Uh-huh. And buy some of them in trail up in ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 25 Yes, I’m on the historic and run them up (inaudible) canyon down (inaudible). 20 22 (Inaudible.) Yeah. (inaudible). 17 19 Uh-huh. Wow. They still saved money up there. It’s old people now. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 106 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: buried -- supposedly buried treasure up there still. (b) (6) 19 20 Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) There’s all sorts -- Huh? ANGELES OPERATIONS: There’s all sorts of those old -- old crazy stories. (b) (6) Yeah. it’s treasure. I’m sure there’s things buried, but I doubt It’s probably bodies. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Probably. Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Bodies of -- (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: I was going to say, bodies of people that were looking for this (b) (6) (b) (6) Yeah. (b) (6) 17 18 Oh, I’ve heard stories of -- of a treasure. That’s right. well, you take care. And thanks for the information. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Sure, (b) (6) And I’ll -- listen, like I said, thanks for the 21 good job. I mean, nobody knows how hard it is unless they’ve 22 really been there and, you know, nobody knows how hard it is. 23 Everybody knows how wonderful it is unless they’ve lived up 24 there and they also don’t know how hard it is just to keep it 25 all together like you guys, you know? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 107 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 2 you know. 3 and ears up there. (b) (6) 4 Well, everybody plays a part in it, And your community was pretty active in being eyes Yeah. We really try, you know. But, you know, 5 well, it’s right people just happen to be -- he ran down to the 6 fire, so -- on the 9th of August, my friend and I. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 (b) (6) 8 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 11 (b) (6) (b) (6) Huh. So maybe it helped. Who knows. Maybe a few people got out that wouldn’t have, you know. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 (b) (6) 20 (b) (6) 22 Yeah. Yeah. You know, we hope so. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 25 -- now we -- on the 9th of August we ran around ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 24 Uh-huh. and gave them to everybody. 16 23 I -- Ready, Set, Go and it tells you how to -- what to ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 18 Probably not. Have you seen it? do and an evacuation plan, and all this stuff, and -- 13 15 And we got -- and we got a bunch of -- the L.A. County put out a -- a beautiful brochure. 10 12 Uh-huh. Yeah. I sure hope so, but -- well, you just take care now. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) You too. Don’t let them work you too hard. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 108 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 while, at least for this one. (b) (6) 3 4 Yeah. Nah. Well, I’ll be working for a It’s going to be what it’s going to be, isn’t it? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 (b) (6) 6 Yeah. Well -- Nobody’s going to (inaudible). Like, my husband 7 said, “Well, it wasn’t something that we did or some stupid 8 little” -- he said, “If you’re going to go out, go out in a 9 blaze of glory. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 11 (b) (6) Yeah. (b) (6) Yeah. on the big one. It wasn’t something (inaudible). You take care. 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 19 21 /// 22 c2727_31_08_2009_060935 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Be careful. You too, (b) (6) Bye-bye. Bye. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 25 You want -- you want a more dramatic Like I said earlier, at least we went out 17 24 It name. 15 23 It’s one for the books. It’s hilarious. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 16 Yeah. just has a stupid name. 12 14 The biggest fire,” you know. Bye-bye now. Angeles Operations. Good morning, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: This is (b) (6) Good morning, (b) (6) How are you? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 109 (b) (6) 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 3 (b) (6) (b) (6) 7 Bye-bye. c2727_31_08_2009_061450 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 MR. (b) (6) (b) (6) 13 Angeles Operations. Hey, good morning. (inaudible) here with L.A. City Department of Water and Power Helicopter Operations. ANGELES OPERATIONS: And you need to speak with somebody from Aircraft? (b) (6) 17 MR. 18 into the GFR. Yes, sir. 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 MR. 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 All right. /// 11 16 Okay. All righty. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 15 We’re holding up That’s good to know. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 14 We’re doing okay. You just show me available district. 5 10 How you doing over there? real good. 4 9 All right. (b) (6) I’m trying to see -- get a craft Okay. I can give you the Aircraft -- (Inaudible.) -- I can give you the Aircraft person. Hold on one second. 23 (b) (6) 24 MR. Oh, perfect. 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Thank you. Aircraft. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 110 (b) (6) 1 MR. 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 MR. (b) (6) Good. How are you doing today? How are you? All right. (b) (6) (b) (6) 4 5 Oh, good morning. with the L.A. City Department of Water and Power Helicopter Unit. 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 MR. (b) (6) Uh-huh. We’re -- we are trying to, if all permits 8 this morning, to get in and take a look at our -- the damage to 9 our -- 10 /// 11 c2727_31_08_2009_061535 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 We’re 9-73-54. Uh-huh. Any possibility of doing this? Let me give you the number for our Air Ops, for the station fire, and you can discuss it with him. His -- 17 18 CALLER: 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 (b) (6) . Go on. Okay. His name is (b) (6) (b) (6) And his number is (805) 5 -- 21 CALLER: Okay. 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CALLER: 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 CALLER: -- 51 -- 551 -- -- 6422. -- 6422. Air Ops. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 111 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 CALLER: 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 CALLER: 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. Well, thank you very much. c2727_31_08_2009_064735 14 15 16 17 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 21 22 23 24 25 Bye-bye. Angeles Operations. (b) (6) speaking. It’s (b) (6) Hi, (b) (6) Hey, can you show me in service? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) do. And same thing with (inaudible) 34. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. (Inaudible) 34. Are you guys in service at Oak Flat? 19 20 Hi, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) You too. Bye-bye. 11 (b) (6) Thank you. Great job. /// 13 Okay. You have a good morning. 10 12 Yeah. (b) (6) Yes. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Thank you. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. Thanks. Uh-huh, bye. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Bye. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 112 1 /// 2 c2727_31_08_2009_070248 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: I answered you back, my brother. 8 CALLER: Don’t clown on the radio. D. You can hear me this morning; right? All right. 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 CALLER: 13 14 All right. (Inaudible) and four. Captain and four; right? I’ve got everyone here today. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. Oh, yeah. How many you got? 15 CALLER: 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 CALLER: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CALLER: 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 What’s up, (inaudible)? Anyways, we’re dispatched. 9 12 Angeles Operations. That’ll be me, plus six, and equals seven. Yeah. Damn. Okay. We’ve got -I guess you’ve got -- -- a job, so I’m working everyone. Damn. I know. So -That’s the status we got, too, dude. Yeah. And it’s a little more stressful in here, so -HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 113 1 CALLER: 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 Yeah, I bet. CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 CALLER: 10 Yeah. You guys -- We got -- I got Captain and six on there, so -- 4 9 I bet. Okay. All right, brother. Thanks, man. Later. Yep. /// c2727_31_08_2009_070607 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: Yes. Angeles Operations. This is DAT7 at Point Lagoon. I’m not in 13 service, but I have unverified report about the fire -- 14 /// 15 c2727_31_08_2009_070622 16 CALLER: (Inaudible.) 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 CALLER: /// 20 c2727_31_08_2009_070633 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 MS. 23 Hold on just a minute. Thanks. 19 (b) (6) Hold on. This is (b) (6) How can I help you? Hey, (b) (6) I’m here (inaudible) but I’m not in service. And 24 there’s (inaudible) I have unverified -- unverified reports of 25 the fire, smoke in Point Lagoon Park coming from the HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 114 1 2 3 (inaudible) down the hill. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. Okay. I’m having a hard time understanding you. I understand you’re not in service, but you -- I -- 4 5 I’m hearing something about smoke, but I’m not -- do you 6 have -(b) (6) 7 MS. 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 MS. (b) (6) Yeah. No. Okay. Do you have questions regarding it? Not at all. 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 MS. (b) (6) That -- Oh. I have unverified reports of the smoke in 12 Point Lagoon Park having some (inaudible) down the hill 13 somewhere (inaudible) that could be possibly to one of the 14 Point Lagoon (inaudible). 15 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) MS. 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. So let me just make sure I understand. You have a report of smoke? 20 (b) (6) 21 MS. 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 MS. 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 I can’t -- I can’t transfer you, or anything like that. 17 19 Okay. (b) (6) one more time. Correct. Okay. I have -Okay. And what is your call sign, The IP -- HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 115 (b) (6) 1 MS. 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 MS. 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) (b) (6) 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 MS. Uh-huh. You’re not in (b) (6) (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 MS. 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 MS. (b) (6) (b) (6) Okay. Coming from the Canyon. 10 So -- He saw a smoke -Okay. -- at the bottom of the hill in Point Lagoon coming from Rancho Sierra Vista (phonetic) -ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 16 /// 17 c2727_31_08_2009_070811 Hold -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 Okay. So you have reported smoke at the bottom of a hill at Point Lagoon; is that correct? 20 CALLER: 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (Inaudible.) Okay. At Point Lagoon. And this is a report from a runner? 22 23 CALLER: 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 . service, but you have -- you’ve got a report of -MS. 19 Can you spell your last name? And I -- I know -- okay. 7 14 Okay. (b) (6) Okay. 5 6 IP 7 (inaudible) I’m not in service. Correct. Okay. /// HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 116 1 c2727_31_08_2009_070835 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 CALLER: 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Thank you. 5 /// 6 c2727_31_08_2009_070924 7 8 9 CAPTAIN (b) (6) 11 (inaudible.) (b) (6) over at ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CAPTAIN 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CAPTAIN 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 CAPTAIN (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) Yes. Engine 16 will be back -- back and forth 12 20 Bye-bye. This is Captain (b) (6) Hi. ANGELES OPERATIONS: CAPTAIN 19 You’re welcome. Vallejo. 10 18 Okay. Engine 16, Captain plus four? Yeah. At Vallejo? Yep. Okay. I believe we’ll be on pretty much until the end of the fire. ANGELES OPERATIONS: right? To the fire -- but no officially; You guys are -(b) (6) 21 CAPTAIN 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CAPTAIN 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 CALLER: (b) (6) Yeah. -- there for -- We’re here for pretty much (inaudible). Okay. Okay. Okay? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 117 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. 2 CALLER: And (inaudible). 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: All right. Yeah. 6 /// 7 c2727_31_08_2009_071425 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Hi, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Thank you. Bye-bye. Angeles Operations. It’s (b) (6) Hi, (b) (6) Hey, I’ve got a quick question: What (inaudible) fire of (inaudible)? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Do you know if he (inaudible)? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Patrol 38. Oh, did he? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. Okay. Yes. Good. ANGELES OPERATIONS: So I have it in the web comment, like 20 the S.O., your number, there’s a P number, everything’s in 21 there. So are you -- is he going to be the one -- obviously, 22 23 he’s the one doing the report; correct? 24 passed onto you? 25 (b) (6) Yeah. He’ll do it. Or is it going to be I didn’t know that he was on HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 118 1 it. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 (b) (6) 3 (b) (6) 5 (b) (6) 7 c2727_31_08_2009_072359 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 MR. 13 Support. (b) (6) Hi. 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 MR. (b) (6) This is (b) (6) (b) (6) Glendale PD Air Uh-huh. And we were just calling to get approval to ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 Support? 19 MR. 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. Are you -- you said you’re Air Correct. Okay. Let me have you talk to Aircraft. Hold on. 22 23 /// 24 c2727_31_08_2009_072610 25 Angeles Operations. work on (inaudible) corridor of (inaudible) today. 17 21 Bye-bye. /// 11 16 You’re welcome. Bye-bye. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 Okay. Thank you. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 10 Great. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 9 Okay. Yep. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Aircraft. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 119 MR. 1 2 (b) (6) Hi. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 MR. 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 MR. (b) (6) How are you today? (b) (6) MR. (b) (6) 13 MR. (b) (6) corridor (inaudible) -- 15 /// 16 c2727_31_08_2009_072633 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 Okay. (b) (6) (b) (6) can approve that or -- 19 CALLER: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 Okay. But we usually work up along (inaudible) 14 24 That’s why I dug up this phone number and called it. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 Yes. I just went into his voicemail. 12 22 Good, thanks. Hey, I’ve been -- the last couple of days, ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 21 Hi. I guess you’ve got his cell phone number? 9 18 Glendale PD Air I’ve been talking to (b) (6) 8 11 (b) (6) Support units. 3 7 This is (b) (6) Okay. Yeah. CALLER: -- or not. He’s the one to get a hold of. Okay. Well, I -- it just went to his voicemail. We’re going to be launching here in about an hour, that’s why I wanted to -ANGELES OPERATIONS: Right. I cannot approve that. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 120 1 CALLER: 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 Okay. CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Oh, really? within five minutes. CALLER: 8 This was 40 minutes ago. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 CALLER: 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. Thanks. /// 16 c2727_31_08_2009_072936 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 CALLER: Uh-huh. Angeles Operations. Hey, it’s (inaudible). How are you? 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: 23 Okay. Okay. 15 22 So I’ll -- I’ll try again. 10 19 Yeah. He usually gets back, when you leave a message, 6 9 That’s the only number I have for him. 4 7 Yeah. Good. How are you? Good. Can you advise (inaudible) units that there’s stretch fires at Point Magu State Park at the bridge (inaudible). 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 CALLER: Uh-huh. Point Magu State Park at the bridge? And the (inaudible). HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 121 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 CALLER: 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 No. Are you going within your unit? Just, I -- I’m on my cell. Oh, okay. This device (inaudible). Okay, yeah. We already have the report -- 7 CALLER: Okay. 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: Yeah. (Inaudible.) 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 CALLER: 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. -- at Point Magu. Yeah. Great. Thank you. Talk to you later. 15 /// 16 c2727_31_08_2009_081356 Bye-bye. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 (b) (2) 18 Hey, (b) (6) Angeles Operations. (b) (2) 20 (b) (6) speaking. It’s (b) (2) Hi, (b) (2) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 We’ve got it. Hey, we’re trying to figure out -- we’re trying to 21 get (b) (6) 22 /// 23 c2727_31_08_2009_081408 ’s (inaudible) -- 24 CALLER: (Inaudible.) 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Uh-huh. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 122 CALLER: 1 2 So the day at the Station -- the day the Station Fire started -- 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: Uh-huh. -- did we -- we extended -- I was on the Morris 5 fires, so that’s why I didn’t get -- 6 /// 7 c2727_31_08_2009_081422 8 CALLER: 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: CALLER: 10 (Inaudible.) /// 12 c2727_31_08_2009_081555 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) (b) (2) You know what? Okay. All right. Sorry. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) Okay. All right. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) I’ll just (inaudible). I saw them at the (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) I’m going to have to have (b) (6) call you back because -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) Hey, (b) (2) Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: or (b) (6) Hold on one second. Okay. 11 13 Let me check. No. That’s okay. All righty. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 123 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 (b) (2) 2 Okay. Bye-bye. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 4 /// 5 c2727_31_08_2009_081833 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) 16 17 18 19 20 21 24 25 Yes. Okay. Thirty-six to Oak Flat. And that’s -- what do they have added? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) (b) (2) Yeah. And then 31’s on? ANGELES OPERATIONS: Two -- 237. Thirty-two’s on? Yes. Yes. Has -- or, has Engine 18 and 14 gone into Aqua Dulce? ANGELES OPERATIONS: No. Fourteen, I haven’t heard from. Eighteen is, apparently, at Mill Creek. Then they’re supposed to go to Aqua Dulce? 22 23 Hey, (b) (2) Did 35 come on? 14 15 (b) (6) Did you move in (inaudible) -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) Angeles Operations. Hey (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) Bye. Hey, what’s up, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) Thanks. (b) (2) Well, I think (inaudible) said they are. They don’t -- they don’t have a (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: Right. I know. I heard about that. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 124 1 2 That’s freaky. (b) (2) (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 Yeah, totally. 4 like, rerun of the DO, and all that. 5 know. 8 9 10 (b) (2) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) So, anyway -- 17 CALLER: 21 22 (b) (2) Okay. Okay. And then 38 and 39 are on. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 are at Vallejo 3 and 39. (b) (2) Vallejo, yes. -- (inaudible) and actually runs out that way today. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) Thirty-six -- I sent 77 out to -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) -- it’s ugly. See you, (b) (6) 23 25 I know, it’s just -- I know shit happens, man -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 I understand. (Inaudible.) 16 19 That was kind of ironic, we ran out of time. 12 18 Yes. -- because it was me that was up there. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 Or even, maybe -- I don’t Well, I’m not going to obsess about it -- 11 14 It was, Anyway, Engine 36 still -- 6 7 I know. Perfect. Okay. Yeah, that’s correct. Both All righty, then. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 125 1 That’s -- that’s all I got then; right? 2 And then whatever Coconino -- 20 -- what is it, 21, 3 or something? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 Let’s see. I have it right. 5 It is -- let me pull it up here. 6 It is -- I’m putting all of these on a list so I can 7 have them at a glance here. Eighteen Cannas 77 -- hold on. 8 9 /// 11 c2727_31_08_2009_082036 13 There’s some other notes here. 10 12 One second. ANGELES OPERATIONS: -- 18 hold on. This is some different stuff here. 14 Night shift has it on the daily status. 15 Hold -- hold on here (inaudible) bring that up here 16 and read it. 17 There we go. Come on. Here we go. 18 Coconino Engine 24, that’s back to Vallejo. 19 CALLER: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yes. 21 CALLER: And -- yeah, if you can move -- yeah, 22 23 All right. move -ANGELES OPERATIONS: Thirty-six to Oak? And then we’ve got 77, 38, 39 and Cocoa 24 at 24 25 Twenty-four? Vallejo. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 126 CALLER: 1 2 And, actually, if you find the location of 77, if they haven’t gone in far -- 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 Uh-huh. -- why don’t you have them go into Auqa Dulce until we get that -- that covered. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 Okay. They went in service to 7 Vallejo probably -- again, it’s 7:30 -- it was probably about 8 7:45. 9 CALLER: Uh-huh. 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 CALLER: 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: 14 15 16 Actually, they’re probably not that far back. Okay. So maybe stop -- stop them first and put them back into Aqua Dulce. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. To divert to Aqua Dulce and Fifth? 17 CALLER: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 So it’s been about 45 minutes ago. They were coming in (inaudible). Okay. So 77 to Aqua Dulce then? Yes. Okay. Okay. I’ll make that happen right now for 77 to 36. 24 CALLER: Okay. 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay, man. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 127 1 CALLER: All righty. 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 /// 4 c2727_31_08_2009_083030 All right. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 (b) (6) 6 Bye. Angeles Operations. Hey, this (b) (6) (inaudible). How are you this morning, Angeles Operations? 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 (b) (6) 9 I’m doing well. I’m doing okay. How about you? Very well. Hey, I’m with (inaudible) help South Ops -- South Ops 10 11 and they told me that we were -- they only assigned to the 12 station. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 Hold on. If it’s an air -- aircraft question, let me put you 14 15 Okay. over to the aircraft. Hold on. 16 (b) (6) 17 All right. 18 /// 19 c2727_31_08_2009_083107 Thank you. (No audio recorded.) 20 21 /// 22 c2727_31_08_2009_083210 CALLER: 23 (Inaudible.) 24 /// 25 c2727_31_08_2009_083237 HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 128 CALLER: 1 (Inaudible.) 2 /// 3 c2727_31_08_2009_083313 CALLER: 4 LA County brought on (inaudible). 5 /// 6 c2727_31_08_2009_083323 CALLER: 7 (Inaudible.) 8 /// 9 c2727_31_08_2009_083341 CALLER: 10 (Inaudible.) 11 /// 12 c2727_31_08_2009_083352 CALLER: 13 (Inaudible.) 14 /// 15 c2727_31_08_2009_083420 CALLER: 16 Hello? 17 /// 18 c2727_31_08_2009_083559 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Angeles Operations. Hey, Operations. This is (b) (6) I don’t know if I can be put on hold for a bit, or -ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Hold on. -- or is he (inaudible)? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. Okay. Hold on. Thank you. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 129 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 (b) (6) 2 3 (b) (6) Can I help you? (inaudible). I was just looking for an Air Ops number. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 (b) (6) 5 (b) (6) 7 (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 Oh, sure. (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 9 Hey, (b) (6) This is (b) (6) Uh-huh. And his number is area code (805) -(b) (6) 10 (805) -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 (b) (6) 12 -- 551 -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 (b) (6) 14 (b) (6) 16 (b) (6) 18 You’re welcome. Bye-bye. Bye, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 Uh-huh. Thank you so much. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 -- 6422. -- 6422. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 -- 551 -- 20 /// 21 c2727_31_08_2009_091433 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 MR. 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 MR. (b) (6) (b) (6) Hey. Okay. Bye. Angeles Operations. Good morning, sir. Yes. My name is (b) (6) (b) (6) (phonetic). I’m a HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 130 1 pilot who flies a Guardian Helicopter -- 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 MR. 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 MR. 6 (b) (6) (b) (6) Newspaper. -- from the (inaudible) airport. 8 MR. 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) (b) (6) 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yes, sir. I’m going to have to have Okay. Because I don’t have any of that information. (b) (6) 14 MR. 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Uh-huh. So if you hold on one second, I’ll have that person pick up and answer your questions. (b) (6) 17 MR. 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 MR. 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 MR. (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) Okay. Thank you. Okay. Hold on one second. Yeah. Hi. 22 (b) (6) 23 (inaudible) airport. 25 Yes, sir. the person handling aircraft speak with you. MR. 24 Okay. -- over the -- (b) (6) from fire. 11 16 And we have our charter for our Times And I want to fly over the (inaudible) -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 Okay. Yeah. 7 10 Yes, sir. This is (b) (6) Good morning, ma’am. My name is The pilots up here of Guardian Helicopter from ANGELES OPERATIONS: I’m sorry? Is a pilot for what helicopter? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 131 1 2 3 4 MR. (b) (6) Yes, ma’am. up on (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) MR. 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 MR. (b) (6) 8 newspaper. 9 the station fire. 11 12 13 14 15 For Guardian Helicopter, what -- what’s the call sign? 5 10 A Guardian Helicopter, that’s 2-1-8 (inaudible). Okay. Yeah. And we headed for Times, for a And I didn’t want to fly over the (inaudible) over ANGELES OPERATIONS: You work for the Times Newspaper and you want to fly into (inaudible)? MR. (b) (6) Yes, ma’am. Probably, I think it only fly above, I think. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, okay. You have to get permission to do that from the Air Operations -(b) (6) 16 MR. 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 MR. 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 MR. 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 MR. 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 MR. 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) Uh-huh. -- on the flyer. Uh-huh. So let me give you his number. Okay. Area code (805) -- (805) --- 551 -- -- 551 --- 6422. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 132 (b) (6) 1 MR. 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 MR. 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 MR. 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 MR. 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 MR. 10 -- 6422. (b) (6) (b) (6) Yes. Okay. (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) (805) 551-6422. Who do I have to talk to? (b) (6) (b) (6) -- --- (b) (6) Uh-huh. . Okay. All right. And -- okay, yes. I’ll call him and try to get the permission. 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 MR. 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. (Inaudible.) Probably busy with the aircrafts 14 right now, so I don’t know if he’ll be able to do that, but you 15 have to get that permission from him. (b) (6) 16 MR. 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 MR. 19 20 21 22 (b) (6) From him? Okay. Yes. How about -- do you have the frequencies? ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. If he gives you permission, he’ll give you the frequencies. MR. (b) (6) Okay. So even though the TFR is service 23 (inaudible) and even though we fly over, like (inaudible) we 24 still would need their permission to do that? 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Then that would not be in the TFR, if HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 133 1 you’re above that. (b) (6) 2 MR. 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 Uh-huh. (b) (6) MR. 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Oh, yeah. -- him know you’re going to be in the area. MR. 8 9 I would think it would be wise that if you -- you call him and let -- 5 7 Yeah. (b) (6) Yeah. I’ll definitely do -- yeah, I will do that, so -- 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 MR. 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 MR. 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yes. Okay. Okay. (b) (6) Uh-huh. That’s it. 15 /// 16 c2727_31_08_2009_093700 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 CALLER: 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 CALLER: 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 CALLER: 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yes. Yep. I want to say thanks. Bye-bye. Angeles Operations. I -- I need the equipment desk. Let me give you their number. Okay. It’s area code (661) -- Okay. -- 723 -- Yep. -- 2592. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 134 1 CALLER: 2592. 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 CALLER: 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. 5 CALLER: Very good. Thank you. 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Thank you. Okay. 7 /// 8 c2727_31_08_2009_094605 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: Good. Yesterday, I had several of your people come by ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. Are -- are -- okay. Is this Okay. Let me have you talk to the regarding aircraft? 17 CALLER: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yes. aircraft. Hold on. 20 21 /// 22 c2727_31_08_2009_094634 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 I’d like to talk to (inaudible). and -- 15 19 Angeles Operations. Good morning. 12 16 Bye-bye. How are you? 11 14 And if that line’s busy, try 2595. -- (b) (6) Hey, I just was down Hawkins on the (inaudible) to Aqua Dulce Airport. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 135 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 CALLER: Yes. I’m trying to find out -- we just had a couple of 3 people come by and talk to me a little bit about maybe carrying 4 a (inaudible) -- 5 /// 6 c2727_31_08_2009_094646 7 CALLER: 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: And I want you to (inaudible). You mean like a heli-base, or something there? 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 Uh-huh. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 11 -- aircraft? Yeah. Uh-huh. Well, let me call the Air Ops and have them give you a call. What’s your number? 15 16 CALLER: (661) -- 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 CALLER: 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 CALLER: 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 CALLER: 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Uh-huh. -- 268-0797. Okay. Okay. I’ll have them give you a call. Okay. 24 /// 25 c2727_31_08_2009_094921 Thank you. Bye-bye. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 136 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 CALLER: 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 Forest. Hi. speaking. Okay. Okay. Hold on. -- (inaudible) -Hold on. Let me have you talk to Hold on. CALLER: 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: 11 (b) (6) Can you show Water 1034 down mechanical -- 7 10 Angeles Operations. Okay. Hi. Hi. This is (b) (6) Can you show Water 1034 down mechanical for -- I don’t know, possibly two hours. ANGELES OPERATIONS: All right. Let us know what you’ve 12 got, because there’s a mechanic, I guess, at Aqua Dulce right 13 now, if you need him. I mean -- 14 CALLER: (Inaudible.) 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: -- yeah, eventually, if you need him 16 to over there, but he’s got -- he’s on a different assignment. 17 But let us know so you can. 18 19 20 21 Water 1034 down for now. CALLER: Yeah. I’m actually going to Grango to get a -- a regulator fixed. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 (inaudible) then. 23 CALLER: 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 Oh, okay. Sounds like you’ve got it Okay. I’m just going to go out of service until we hear back from you. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 137 1 CALLER: Okay. Thanks. 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 CALLER: /// 5 c2727_31_08_2009_101032 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 9 10 11 12 (b) (2) Hey. (b) (6) was calling me. Yeah. Hold on. Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) Bye-bye. Angeles Operations. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) Very good. Bye. 4 7 All right. Hey, (b) (2) Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Hey, I just had a quick question 13 regarding the structure group. 14 engines earlier, but there’s a (inaudible) incident here. I just want to make sure I have everybody. 15 16 17 18 19 20 We -- we talked about a few I’ve got Cannas 77 at Aqua Dulce. (b) (2) Yep. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) Engine 15 and 16 are Aculeo. Uh-huh. ANGELES OPERATIONS: And I’m calling you because -- we 21 were talking about it earlier, I know this is a forest-wide 22 thing. And you said, like, there’s no RP. 23 24 25 I think it was from Chief 2. (b) (2) Uh-huh. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 138 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 Edward --Engine 14 in -- 3 4 5 (b) (2) 8 9 And then I’ve got Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Sure. You’re saying “structure group.” I mean, I -- 6 7 Cool. Hold -- hold -- hold on. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) Yeah. -- I don’t really know what you’re talking about. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. What -- what we have going on 10 is we have an incident -- kind of an internal thing here, 11 forest-wise. 12 13 14 15 16 17 (b) (2) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 21 22 23 24 25 A structure group with our Type III engines -(b) (2) Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: So I was just trying to get a rundown on which ones are actually that. It appears to me that every engine that’s in service 18 19 Okay. available on forest today, not committed to the fire -(b) (2) Uh-huh. ANGELES OPERATIONS: -- could, and is, part of this structure group, so -(b) (2) And who’s the -- who’s the structure group leader? ANGELES OPERATIONS: structure group. Well, it’s not technically a And that’s why -- HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 139 I’m looking at an incident from a night dispatcher, 1 2 and he didn’t have a damn thing in here. 3 “structure group.” It’s just called And there’s nothing else in here, so -- He did mention that Chief 2 was the RP to do that, 4 5 but it looks like I’ve got a few engines that are available to 6 be part of the structure group. 7 Engine 77 at Aqua Dulce. 8 mechanical, of course, at Aqua Dulce. 9 Cocoa Engine 24 with Engine 39 and Engine 36, who’s at a -- 10 (b) (2) 12 (b) (2) 14 that. And also, I believe it’s Disregard -- (Inaudible) is a Type VI probably -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 And Engine 14, which is down (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 And one of those is Cannas They are a Type VI. I wondered about If they’re from the Cocoa, that’s for sure. Okay. 15 I’m going to deal with (b) (6) and kind of just 16 brush up on what the hell engines --if we -- because if we get 17 a structure fire on the forest with our stations -- 18 19 (b) (2) Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: -- that’s what the whole goal is for 20 any forest service structures, that we would, you know, try to 21 be a little proactive on there. 22 23 24 25 (b) (2) Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) So -- Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: -- I know -- HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 140 1 (b) (2) Because I had some different direction this morning 2 directly from the Ranger that -- that we were -- were not going 3 to -- 4 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) -- engage in any structures. 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 of our facilities, or -- 8 9 10 11 (b) (2) I understand. Pretty much what I heard. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) Uh-huh. -- actually think that if you could clarify that -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, let me get with (b) (6) all pow-wowing here somewhere. 13 case we get something. 15 16 17 18 (b) (2) 23 24 25 But I need to clarify this in And let me know. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) I don’t want to -- I don’t Totally. -- (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. I hear you on that. Let me just find out what’s going on with that, and stuff. But it’s not an actual structure group, it’s just 21 22 Yeah. They’re want to jump in on something before I get direction -- 19 20 So I -- Okay. 12 14 Even if it’s like one a -- it’s an A&F structure group. (b) (2) Yeah. I got ya. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (2) Okay. Yeah. Talk to you in a little bit. Give me -- give me a call back to HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 141 1 clear it up. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 (b) (2) 3 Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 (b) (2) 5 7 /// 8 c2727_31_08_2009_101527 10 /// 11 c2727_31_08_2009_101605 13 /// 14 c2727_31_08_2009_102720 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Hey, I -- (Inaudible conversation.) 12 16 So (b) (6) -- over here. (Inaudible background audio.) 9 15 Bye-bye. See ya. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 I’ll let you know. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Hi? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Hi. Hi. Okay. Sure. (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Angeles Operations. (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) I’m sorry. I was (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Hey, (b) (6) Sure. But I just got in today. ANGELES OPERATIONS: I understand. What -- what’s your HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 142 1 2 3 4 5 6 name? (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Hey, (b) (6) Hey. ANGELES OPERATIONS: I’m (b) (6) One of the specialists here, but we’re -- you’re calling dispatch. Let me pass you to a number for Overhead, and then 7 8 My name is (b) (6) they can help you out. (b) (6) Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Extension 96? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 723-2594 and 96. No. No. Others. Two numbers. Oh. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (661) 723-2594. And then the second number ends in 96. (b) (6) Oh, okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. And so, 723-2594 and 2596. I will try them. ANGELES OPERATIONS: And that’s for Overhead. And then they can get you your information. (b) (6) Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. Thanks. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) All right. Yeah. Good-bye. Bye. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 143 1 /// 2 c2727_31_08_2009_102911 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 MR. 5 (b) (6) Hey. How are you doing? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 MR. (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: over. Okay. Okay. Hold on, and I’ll transfer you Hold on a second. 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 MR. (b) (6) This is (b) (6) How you doing, (b) (6) This is (b) (6) (b) (6) from Southern California (inaudible). 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 MR. (b) (6) Hello. I’ve a question about the TFR, the (inaudible) fire (inaudible) fire. 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 MR. 25 The individual who is handling aircraft. MR. 22 I need you to speak with Speak with who? 14 19 Okay. aircraft, they have that information. MR. 16 Yes, sir. I am calling about the air tactic above the 11 13 (b) (6) TFR. 9 10 This is (b) (6) from Southern California TRACON 6 8 Angeles Operations. (b) (6) Uh-huh. And the air tactics flying above. I guess he’s are flying around at 7,500 but the TFR’s at seven. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 144 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 MR. (b) (6) Okay. And I was just wondering -- I don’t know. 3 Because he’s -- he’s telling us to -- because the Neuse 4 helicopters are up there, too. And he is trying to tell us to keep those guys out of 5 6 the way -- 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 MR. 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) (b) (6) But those guys aren’t doing anything wrong. 10 MR. 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 (b) (6) 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 MR. (b) (6) Yeah. They’re above -- they’re They’re above the TFR. Uh-huh. I was wondering if you guys were waiving the TFR, or -- 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 MR. 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 MR. 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) (b) (6) No. It’s at 7,000. Okay. They didn’t -- yeah. Okay. Because I guess this is -They wanted -- we wanted to raise it, but I guess FAA, or L.A. didn’t want us to -(b) (6) 23 MR. 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 Right. above the TFR? MR. 22 Okay. And we technically can’t do, you know -- 13 16 Uh-huh. Okay. -- because of the commercial traffic, so -HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 145 1 MR. (b) (6) Yeah. You might -- well, I mean, if you have 2 to raise it -- if he’s going to stay at 75, I mean, we’ve got 3 to work around it, then -- 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 MR. 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 (b) (6) (b) (6) 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 Okay. MR. (b) (6) Well, you guys usually, I guess, coordinate with the L.A. Center -ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 MR. (b) (6) Uh-huh. -- I guess. So you can just coordinate through them if they want to raise it, or whatever. 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 MR. 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 MR. 20 And did you need a call back from them, or -- 13 15 -- let me -- let me call the Air Ops and let them know what’s going on. MR. 11 Well -- -- you know, so -- 8 10 Okay. (b) (6) (b) (6) Okay. And they’ll probably call me. And who is this again? This is (b) (6) (b) (6) Southern California TRACON -- 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 MR. 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 MR. 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) (b) (6) Okay. TRACON. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Okay. All right. Uh-huh. Bye-bye. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 146 1 /// 2 c2727_31_08_2009_103844 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 This is (b) If you guys get a call from a Post Alarm System, tell them to ignore it. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 CALLER: c2727_31_08_2009_105521 23 24 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Hey. Angeles Operations. Hi (b) (6) How have you been? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Bye. This is (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) You’re welcome. Bye. 18 (b) (6) Okay. Thank you. /// 22 Just have -- just have them ignore Right. 17 21 If we get a call from where? it? 12 20 Okay. Post Alarm. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 19 speaking. (inaudible) from the (6) 8 11 (b) (6) Supervisor’s office. 6 7 Hi. Angeles Operations. I’m doing good. How are you? Busy, busy, busy, busy. ANGELES OPERATIONS: I saw (b) (6) It was like “Oh, my HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 147 1 2 gosh.” (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) 8 (b) (6) Yeah. It makes her feel good. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 I can’t (inaudible). (Inaudible) came by, huh? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 Oh my gosh. They will do that. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 6 Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 4 She’s so big. I know. I was, like -- because I 10 think (b) (6) ’s probably about -- at least 4 or 5, and she’s 11 shorter than her, at least. 12 (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) Really? Where’d they go? To grandma’s. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 16 got evacuated yesterday. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 14 (b) (6) Oh, okay. Grandma was here watching (b) (6) for the weekend, 17 and then the -- the Sheriffs came at about 3:00 in the morning, 18 and said, “Get out.” 19 And I went “Yeah, right.” 20 And then -- of course, (b) (6) 21 70’s. 22 get out.” 23 So it’s like, “Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: ’s grandma is in her I’ve got to do my civic duty and Yeah. I was thinking the same thing, 24 because it’s like (b) (6) ’s house is so overprotected with all 25 the -- all the hazard action he does around it all the time. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 148 But it was -- but it’s kind of bad if the Fire Chief 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 didn’t evacuate when -- when everyone else was supposed to. (b) (6) Right. ANGELES OPERATIONS: So I don’t know if he did or not. I’ll have to -- I’ll have to ask (b) (6) (b) (6) Oh, (b) (6) ’s working ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. But his family’s there, his wife’s there. (b) (6) Oh, I don’t know. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Probably not. The problem is, is that if she would have left to go to work -ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) -- they wouldn’t have let her back in. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Do they have dogs? I’m not sure. ANGELES OPERATIONS: They could stay at (b) (6) ’s house, you’d go play with the baby, anyway. (b) (6) Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. So what’s up? Anyways, I called because I was wanting to know HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 149 1 the two numbers -- I think I got them wrong -- for the Morris 2 fire and the station fires. 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: can actually help you with. (b) (6) 14 15 16 17 18 19 Yeah. That’s what I figured. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) William. (b) (6) That’s right. And then on the station -- Okay. Okay, good. ANGELES OPERATIONS: All right. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. Okay. Why is it -- oh, I have it up here. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Five -- it is Paul-5-Edward-5-Tom- Oh, that’s the Morris. Come on. (b) (6) On the Morris -- On the Morris. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. It’s five-Edward-5-Victor-Lincoln? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 13 You know, that is one thing that I It’s Paul-5-Edward-5-Victor-Lincoln. I got that right. Okay. Thanks. Okay. I’m in service the acting area of Area 9, pretty 20 much -- I’ll be available in about half an hour, or so 21 probably. 22 23 24 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. All right. But I’m getting my time done, and hopefully I’ll get a red card out of this. ANGELES OPERATIONS: I’m doing the same thing, too. Okay. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 150 1 All righty. (b) (6) 2 Bye-bye. I’ll be on the radio or my cell phone. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 (b) (6) 4 /// 6 c2727_31_08_2009_111726 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 CALLER: 10 All right. Angeles Operations. I -- I think I probably needed dispatch -- /// c2727_31_08_2009_111735 11 CALLER: 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Was that (b) (6) 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. 14 CALLER: 15 -- get a hold of over there? or (b) (6) or -- It’s area code -- Did you get the number? You can’t transfer me back there? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 17 Bye-bye. Bye. 5 9 Okay. No. You’ve got to call that -- now, I -- 18 CALLER: 2594, or 2596? 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 CALLER: Okay. Yes. I’ll call. 21 /// 22 c2727_31_08_2009_114615 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Thanks. Bye. Angeles Operations. (b) (6) speaking. Hi, this is (inaudible.) Uh-huh. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 151 CALLER: 1 Is there any way you could get a hold of 12-38 2 and have them call my office? 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 Hold on one second. Let me have you talk to the Forest dispatcher. Hold on. 5 CALLER: 6 Okay. 7 /// 8 c2727_31_08_2009_114646 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: CALLER: 10 11 Okay. Yeah. Yeah, it’s (b) (6) How can I help you? Is there any way you can get a hold of 38 and ask him to contact (inaudible)? 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 CALLER: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Let me see (inaudible.) (Inaudible.) And it’s to call who? Four-B. Okay. Four-B. I’m sorry. Where though? (Inaudible.) Okay. Let me see here. (Inaudible.) Right. Hold on one second. There he is. 23 24 /// 25 c2727_31_08_2009_114730 HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 152 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 CALLER: 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: Thanks, bud. /// 6 c2727_31_08_2009_120450 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 8 Bye. Hi, (b) (6) Angeles Operations. It’s (b) (6) Could you have Captain 16 call my cell, please? 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 (b) (6) 11 /// 13 c2727_31_08_2009_123605 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 CALLER: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Angeles Operations. (Inaudible) delayed response, at the (inaudible). Okay. I’ll be on my cell. Okay. Thanks. 21 /// 22 c2727_31_08_2009_124645 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: available? Okay. Thank you. 12 25 Alright. Bye. 5 7 Sounds good. Hi. Thanks. Bye. (b) (6) Angeles Operations. This is (inaudible) 234. speaking. Will you show me I’m back -- back on response. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 153 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 2 Were you on a delayed response? CALLER: 3 4 Okay. Yeah. Actually, I was down with some people, but -- 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. 8 CALLER: Thanks a lot. 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: All right. /// 11 c2727_31_08_2009_131735 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 /// 14 c2727_31_08_2009_131806 15 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) It’s (b) (6) 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 21 22 23 24 25 You’re welcome. Bye-bye. Angeles Operations. Hello? Angeles Operations. (b) (6) Hello? Hey, (b) (6) 17 19 I’ll put you back -- I’m back -- you know, I’m back to running now. 10 12 Oh, okay. (b) (6) Okay. Engineer 16. How’s it going, man? I’ve had better days. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yes. Yeah, I can imagine. This sucks, man. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Dude, this thing is just gobbling, bro, I know. Yeah. Regardless of injuries, or anything, this one’s just -- this is the big one. It’s not even freakin’ HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 154 1 Santa Ana conditions. (b) (6) 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 4 Where -- where’d you guys make it out to? (b) (6) 5 Well, we’re out 74 on the Crest Highway. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 (b) (6) 7 Okay. Right -- right near Fenner. So we’re still -- we’re still making our way out 8 9 Yeah. towards Wrightwood. But I wanted to get a phone call in before -- I 10 11 didn’t know whether I’d have service when I got to Wrightwood 12 or not. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 14 Okay. All right. Probably yourself and three others, total of four cars. And, yeah, Engine 15’s right ahead of you. 15 16 already coming into Palmdale by now probably. 17 they’re in the engine, I know. They’re And -- and 18 And Engine 16’s still up there unstaffed with -- 19 Hey, Utility 15. (b) (6) 20 Okay. 21 /// 22 c2727_31_08_2009_131938 23 Let me catch these guys real quick. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 (inaudible.) 25 CALLER: One second. Let me just get this to (Inaudible.) HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 155 1 /// 2 c2727_31_08_2009_131947 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 Yeah. I was wondering what Utility 15 was doing. Can you relay? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 7 /// 8 c2727_31_08_2009_132013 CALLER: 9 Yeah. 10 towards the 14. 11 get a hold of them. ’s funny. (Inaudible.) We were going to tie in in 14, but I couldn’t ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: Okay. Well, tie in now works. Have them just meet us back in the parking lot or at the 138/14. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 16 it. 17 /// 18 c2727_31_08_2009_132043 That was 138 and the 14. I’ll make (No audio recorded.) 19 20 /// 21 c2727_31_08_2009_132100 22 CALLER: 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 (b) (6) (Inaudible) we’re on the 138, headed 12 14 Up against Taylor. (b) (6) 38 to 14, that is good. Thank you. That is good. What -- what was the last that you heard with and (b) (6) HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 156 1 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: That they were heading out. the direction from -- I don’t know. 3 CALLER: 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: -- too. Probably (b) (6) or (b) (6) Yeah. 6 Let me see here. 8 9 10 11 CALLER: Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. I doubt -And -- -- that they’ve left yet. Right. Now, what -- what are they all driving in? 17 CALLER: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 They were finalizing their equipment, and they’d be leaving too. 13 20 Let I had that at about -- exactly a half hour ago. CALLER: 19 It was not too long ago here. me see here. 12 16 He was talking to Chief -- (Inaudible.) 5 7 They got Pardon me? What -- what are they all driving in? TOV’s, and shit? CALLER: 16, and (b) (6) You know what? Last I saw, (b) (6) was in Utility was in his Division 7 vehicle. 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CALLER: 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 CALLER: But (b) (6) Okay. does have his -- his TOV up there. Yeah. You know, I wouldn’t be surprised if (inaudible). HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 157 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 2 the other three folks from Nukem’s that were there with them? CALLER: 3 4 I’m sure they’re trying to get those guys out, too. 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 9 10 11 Well, you have to -- And they were pretty adamant about staying. Yeah. I think they’re with the -- at the station with them. CALLER: Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: But I imagine those folks have their TOVs, so -- 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 I’m curious about the -- how about Yeah. All right, man. Thanks for the update. 15 I’m going to -- let’s see. 16 You’re -- you’re at Crest Highway near Fenner. 17 I’ll -- 18 CALLER: 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 21 Yeah. -- put in the log here, and stuff, you guys are all safe and good. And -- and I’ll go ahead and pass on to Captain 16 up 22 there that you guys are out near Fenner, making your way out. 23 And Utility 15 is out on the Palmdale side, so they’ll get that 24 off their minds. 25 CALLER: Okay. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 158 1 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: All right, man. Well, I hope we don’t lose the station up there. 3 CALLER: Well, I -- 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 CALLER: I imagine you guys did a lot of work. That -- and that’s -- that’s the thing is, you 6 know, the station’s pretty (inaudible) because they contain us 7 for all these fuel times -- 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: 10 11 12 13 14 15 Right. -- because they do a bunch of work. ANGELES OPERATIONS: So it’s almost like -- it’s pre- prepped already over -CALLER: Yeah. Yeah. You know, it just needed somebody to -- to (inaudible) you know, it’s here and there. ANGELES OPERATIONS: To hit some spots as they come on. Right. 16 CALLER: Yeah. So -- 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 CALLER: 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well -- Yeah. -- hopefully they’ve prepped it real 20 damned good and -- because we’ll probably hear from them 21 shortly when they’re headed out -- 22 CALLER: 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 25 Okay. All right. -- and stuff, so -- I’ll pass that on. You guys are headed out Crest Highway, 74 near Fenner and -- and -HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 159 CALLER: 1 And I’m going to -- I’m going to keep the crew 2 together, you know, until we figure out, you know, everything 3 that’s going on. I’m -- I’m not going to release them. 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 I understand. And Division 5, Engine 6 38, 39, that Cocoa Engine Texas 24, they’re all out over by 7 Little Rock area. So wherever you head from there, just give us a call 8 9 and -- you know, in fact, do you have an assignment? 10 Engine 15 -- I take that back. 11 assignment. Because They have a different They’re also heading to the S.O. in Arcadia because 12 13 that’s, I guess, where they’ve got to get around back to 14 anyway, so that makes sense. 15 All right, brother. 16 All right. Well, be safe on the way out. 17 talk to you soon. 18 CALLER: 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 CALLER: And I’ll Thanks, (b) (6) Bye-bye. Yeah. 21 /// 22 c2727_31_08_2009_132441 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Hello? Angeles Operations. (b) (6) speaking. Angeles? Yeah. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 160 CALLER: 1 2 service. This is (inaudible) seven-seven. And I’m in I don’t think you guys heard me -- 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 CALLER: 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. -- on the radio. I’ll put you -- Okay. Okay. Okay. CALLER: 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Bye-bye. Bye. 12 /// 13 c2727_31_08_2009_133646 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: All right. Angeles Operations. Wrong number. 16 /// 17 c2727_31_08_2009_134622 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS 1: 19 MR. 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS 1: 21 MR. 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 MR. 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 MR. (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) Thank you. Thanks. 10 Sorry. -- in service. Angeles Operations. Hey, is (b) (6) (b there? (b) (6) Yeah. Hold on. Thank you. (b) (6) Hello. it’s (b) (6) Yes. (b) (6) here. Yes, sir. Hey, we’re in Wrightwood, so -- have you heard HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 161 1 from the guys yet? 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 MR. 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) From (b) (6) Yeah. I just talked to him just about -- 5 oh, less than five ago. 6 were staying behind were from -- you know, the two (b) (6) 7 sons, and then one employee from Nukem. So that’s -- 8 9 10 11 MR. (b) (6) 14 15 16 Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: -- all I needed to know. But that’s all I’ve heard from them. I don’t know if they’ve headed out yet or not. 12 13 I wanted to confirm on the three that MR. (b) (6) Okay. I’m not getting anything over here on the ADC on this side. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. There’s no real traffic at all from them. 17 Here he is right here. 18 I’m going to cut -- see if you can hear it. 19 (b) (6) Stand by. Stand by. Advise, Division 7 and myself are heading out 20 of -- currently -- well (inaudible) and a few of them 21 (inaudible). 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 you’re looking for too, so -(b) (6) 24 MR. 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. That’s the (inaudible) that Thank you very much. Yeah. One second here. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 162 1 /// 2 c2727_31_08_2009_134805 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 4 (phonetic); right? Is that where they’re going to go? 5 CALLER: 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 CALLER: 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: Yeah. Okay. That’s what it was. Those knuckleheads are still in there, basically? I have no idea, man. That’s -- Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 I think they said the Panorama Point -- a huge topic. I have no idea. Anyways, let me pass that on to Chief, too, man. 11 And 12 I’ll put in a log that you guys are right with her. Are you 13 guys going to hang there for them for a little bit? Make sure 14 they -- they come out, or -CALLER: 15 16 (b) (6) 17 his number? We were thinking about doing that. Does -- does -- or, can (b) (6) get my cell phone call, or can you give me 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CALLER: 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 CALLER: Well, wait. Yeah. (b) (6) ’s (b) (6) -- I was ready, and then I wasn’t. Okay. Yeah. It’s (b) (6) -- Yeah. -- (b) (6) . (b) (6) Yeah. Does he -- he got coverage, you think? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 163 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 CALLER: 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 Yeah. Because (b) ’s been talking to Okay. I’ll catch you later. (6) him on the phone somehow. CALLER: 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 CALLER: 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: Okay. Okay, bud. All right. Bye. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 11 /// 12 c2727_31_08_2009_145025 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 MR. 16 Because -- (Inaudible.) 5 15 Yeah. (b) (6) either (b) (6) Bye. Angeles Operations. (b) (6) (b) (6) this is (b) (6) speaking. Can I speak to or (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: Oh, okay. I’m -- I’m sorry. 17 (b) (6) (b) (6) Who would you like to speak to? Either (b) (6) 18 MR. 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. or (b) (6) They’re not at the console. 20 You’re going to have to call their cell phone or their office. 21 And I can give you -(b) (6) 22 MR. 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 MR. 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) No. Have them call me, then, on my cell. Okay. Who is this again? (Inaudible.) Who is this? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 164 (b) (6) 1 MR. 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 MR. 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 MR. 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 MR. Okay. I will. (b) (6) (b) (6) I will. Thank you. (b) (6) Uh-huh. Okay. 8 /// 9 c2727_31_08_2009_145917 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 CALLER: 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Hi. Angeles Operations. (b) (6) Yes. Do you have any (inaudible) in Polar Creek? They were headed over there, I 15 believe to help with Engine 12 on some spot fires in the Green 16 Island below the Clear Creek School. 17 CALLER: Beautiful. 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Thanks. All right. Okay. 21 /// 22 c2727_31_08_2009_154509 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 Okay. Uh-huh. Bye. Angeles Operations. Hey, this is Division 2. I’m back at the S.O., available by cell. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 165 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 Okay. 2 CALLER: 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Thank you, sir. 5 /// 6 c2727_31_08_2009_154724 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 8 (b) (6) 10 Okay. Angeles Operations. This is (b) (6) Hi. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 Hey, how’s it going? We have our radio guys saying that we need a water 12 drop at Mount Disappointment. 13 risk yesterday. 14 camera. (b) (6) 16 18 /// 19 c2727_31_08_2009_154820 22 23 It was at Okay. Hold on. If you guys can get a drop over there. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 That’s our tower. And now they can actually see flames in the ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 21 L.A. County Fire Dispatch. Good. 11 20 Division 2 back in the S.O. I got you. 3 7 Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Hi, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. Hold on. This is (b) (6) This is (b) (6) Hi, (b) (6) I was going to request from (b) (6) 24 guy, again. 25 cameras -- our radio And he said that he can’t mount the equipment, HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 166 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 (b) (6) 2 Uh-huh. -- when there’s planes there. And we can try to 3 divert (inaudible) over there or something at Mount 4 Disappointment tower. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 6 (b) (6) Thank you. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 (b) (6) 9 Bye. 11 /// 12 c2727_31_08_2009_161857 15 16 17 18 19 Thank you. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 14 I’ll let the Air -- Air Tact know. 7 13 Okay. Bye-bye. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Hi. Angeles Operations. Who’s this? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Who’s this? Hello? ANGELES OPERATIONS: Hello. This is (b) (6) Operations. (b) (6) (b) (6) let me talk to one of the dispatchers. 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Sure. 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: This is (b) (6) 22 (b) (6) 25 Hi, (b) (6) Hold on. This is (b) (6) How are you? 23 24 Angeles ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) I’m doing good. How about yourself? Have you contact Captain 15 -HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 167 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 (b) (6) 2 -- ask him if he has cell coverage. I’ll hold. 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 5 We’re doing the You want me to try -(b) (6) 7 I’ll -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 (b) (6) 9 -- I can -- I’ll -- break in the weather. Ask them to do a break and just -ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 (b) (6) 12 (b) (6) 14 Will do. I’ll hold. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 Will do. -- (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 16 /// 17 c2727_31_08_2009_161955 Okay, yes. Okay. Will do. (Inaudible conversation.) 18 19 /// 20 c2727_31_08_2009_162017 (Inaudible conversation.) 21 22 /// 23 c2727_31_08_2009_162028 CALLER: 24 25 Actually -- okay. weather right now. 6 10 Okay. (Inaudible) 100,000 acres. /// HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 168 1 c2727_31_08_2009_162205 (Inaudible conversation.) 2 3 /// 4 c2727_31_08_2009_162218 (b) (6) 5 (Inaudible.) No. No. Let’s look at it first. 6 But I don’t want to waste horsepower on a second day if we can 7 run (inaudible) somewhere else. And we -- and look at the numbers. 8 9 enough (inaudible) -ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 11 Here he is right here. (b) (6) 13 15 /// 16 c2727_31_08_2009_162251 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 22 23 24 25 Stand by. Yeah, (b) (6) Stand by. I’ve got him on the air. He’s trying to get it as we speak. And I told him you’re trying to raise him up by cell 19 20 Stand by, (b) (6) Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 18 Hey, (b) (6) , still trying to raise him on the air here. 12 17 If we’ve got phone -- or, by phone. (b) (6) Okay. (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yeah. -- before we part the (inaudible)? ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) can you do me one more -- Yes. I sure can. Ask him if the fire’s in all their -- all their HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 169 1 cattle. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 (b) (6) 3 5 /// 6 c2727_31_08_2009_162335 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 8 (b) (6) I understand. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 (b) (6) 11 (b) (6) Okay. Okay. I’ll talk to you. All right. Very good. Yes, he is. And I’ll make sure to Okay. Yes. Okay. I’ll let him know you’re on your cell. (b) (6) 18 Thanks, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 20 /// 21 c2727_31_08_2009_164637 25 They Yeah. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 24 He says he has no idea. Are you on your cell, (b) (6) , he’s asking? Okay. 15 23 Yeah. pass -- one sec. 14 22 Stand by. (Inaudible) on my cell, though; right? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 17 Okay. were ordered to leave the Wrightwood area. 9 13 Let me write that -- (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Operations. (b) (6) Hello. You’re welcome. Bye-bye. Angeles Operations. Angeles Angeles Operations. Hi, Angeles -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: Hi. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 170 (b) (6) 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 4 Sure. It’s going to be -- I thought he was in my new phone program, but he’s not. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 (b) (6) (b) (6) 10 -- (b) (6) . Thank you. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 12 /// 13 c2727_31_08_2009_165817 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: You’re welcome. Bye. Angeles Operations. (b) (6) speaking. Hi, (b) (6) Hey, tell -- pass the word in there, if anybody hears 16 from (b) (6) or Division 7 or Captain 16 -- 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Hi. 20 CALLER: 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 CALLER: 23 His name -- his number is Uh-huh. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 Uh-huh. -(b) (6) 8 17 (b) (6) (6) 3 7 This (b) (6) I need cell phone for (b) 2 5 -- Operations. Hold -- hold on one second. This is (b) (6) Hi, (b) (6) Yes. I’m wondering if you’ll ever hear again from Captain 16 -- 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 CALLER: Yes. -- or Division 7, tell them to go get hotel HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 171 1 rooms -- 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 CALLER: 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 Okay. -- give me a call on my cell. Okay. Will do. I’m still trying to raise both of them on their cells, et cetera. But it sounds like they’re standing next to each 6 I called (b) (6) ’s cell phone, but I -- I didn’t get to 7 other. 8 get their exact location before the cell phone broke off. 9 So will do. 10 a call on your cell phone ASAP. I know that they made it out of Wrightwood, etcetera. 11 12 I’ll tell to -- to hotel up and give you So they’re down on the Palmdale side, last I knew. (b) (6) 13 CALLER: 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 -- I heard Cable Mountain on the school ground. Okay. I will try on that side, then. Let me make sure that that gets to them, even if I’ve got to get -- get that lodging word on the air. 20 CALLER: 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. Well, you try them again. Okay. Go ahead. I mean -- I mean, hang on. 22 23 /// 24 c2727_31_08_2009_165947 25 Yes. Very good. 18 19 -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: -- (inaudible) at the same time, but HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 172 1 think it was quiet when I transmit, as you know. 2 /// 3 c2727_31_08_2009_170003 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 (Inaudible.) Yeah, and (inaudible) 5 he goes, “Okay. 6 cut -- he was chasing the cell signal there. 7 him again here. 8 /// 9 c2727_31_08_2009_170030 I -- I can hear you now.” CALLER: 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: (Inaudible) try Yes, I’m here. I’ll keep trying it every so often and you keep trying, and we’ll get him. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 15 So I know he was Hey, (b) (6) 10 13 (Inaudible.) message. Okay. (b) (6) do. We’ll get him that If I get him first, I’ll let you know. 16 CALLER: 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Thanks, (b) (6) (Inaudible.) 18 /// 19 c2727_31_08_2009_172918 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CALLER: 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 CALLER: Okay. Bye-bye. Angeles Operations, (b) (6) Hey, (inaudible). Hey, (inaudible), how are you doing? Pretty good. Right on. (Inaudible) for the (inaudible) incident? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 173 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 CALLER: 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Soledad. For which one? The (inaudible). Oh, dude, you didn’t hear me? 4 Yeah, we -- it canceled, like, right away. 5 out? 6 CALLER: 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 How far did you get Not much, maybe like (inaudible). Sweet, dude. I announced it back over, but, oh. CALLER: 9 (Inaudible.) 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 CALLER: 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 Yeah. reopen it. Yeah. Oh. Want the incident number? Sure. 3623, if I’m right. Hold on, let me Yeah, I apologize for that, man. 14 CALLER: (Inaudible.) 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Did they get you over in the 16 neighborhood where you can -- oops, 36 -- hold on one second. 17 3673. One second. CALLER: 18 It’s 36 -- hmm. Oh, one second here. Okay. 19 /// 20 c2727_31_08_2009_173032 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 CALLER: 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 74. Oh, here it is, 3674. Okay. All right. Yeah, so, anyways -- 24 we’re inside the -- inside the house here. 25 house here. We’re inside the What’s it looking like over there, man? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 174 1 CALLER: 2 (inaudible). Quiet. I’m up (inaudible) Ridge. 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: 7 on, but (inaudible) -- 9 CALLER: Uh-huh. It’s just -- it -- it -- (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: -- it’s coming down slowly or it’s just kind of? 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: 15 Yep, yep. And, you know, kind of (inaudible) what’s going ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 Oh, you’re over in that -- (Inaudible.) 8 10 It’s kind of Backing, but I mean -It’s backing, yeah. This morning you could see flames. (Inaudible), you know. 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 CALLER: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. So because of those -- (Inaudible.) Well, (inaudible) the -- the shorter 19 fuel is kind of -- so it’s just kind of backing, not really 20 rocking, huh? 21 CALLER: Yeah. 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CALLER: Yeah. 24 any flames anymore. 25 (Inaudible.) (Inaudible) front? (Inaudible) backing. You can’t even see Just kind of creeping around. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 175 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 2 (Inaudible) few hours ago, took a peak out that and it was -- it was ugly. 3 CALLER: Yeah. 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: All right, well -- all right. Got 5 you over in that area. 6 because you are right there -- are you kind of hanging on that 7 Alimony Ridge area? 8 CALLER: 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: In fact, I’m going to put you -- Yeah, I’m just kind of hanging (inaudible). 10 CALLER: 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: All right. I’ll be headed back up there, so (inaudible). Okay. (Inaudible) head back up. Yeah, but that’s (inaudible). Let me 14 know when you move around a little bit. 15 to a different area or -- just kind of monitoring the resource 16 (inaudible) just in case we get some, but you know -- you know 17 what we’re talking about. 18 CALLER: Okay. 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. 20 CALLER: See you. You need to go back or No problem. All right. 21 /// 22 c2727_31_08_2009_173715 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Talk to you later. Angeles Operations. Bye. (b) (6) Hello? Hello. Angeles Operations. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 176 1 CALLER: 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 you. 4 day. Yeah. 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: probably going to busy with this thing. CALLER: 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: Yes, I -- I -- I called (inaudible) and tell you what you needed to do because she (inaudible) already. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: Yes. And (inaudible) and we called that line. ANGELES OPERATIONS: This is correct. not here on the console. 20 her just a little while ago. 23 24 25 We That is correct. I -- I would like to give you a call when -- when I’m 19 22 Yes. don’t want to take the call? 18 21 But I -- (Inaudible.) 14 17 I’ve been here every day I think last time I talked to you I told you I was 10 16 Yes. since -- since we started. 8 13 Hey, I’ve been wanting to reach Have you been working a lot, (b) (6) CALLER: 9 Yes. I’ve been working this fire, I’ve been here at work every 5 7 (b) (6) Who’s this? CALLER: And I -- and I did, yes, speak with And let -- let her walk you through and just do what you got to do. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. So she has the step-by-step for now? CALLER: She has the -- the -- the information that you HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 177 1 need. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 3 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: CALLER: 11 (inaudible). Huh? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Oh, okay. CALLER: And I do appreciate Just call me any time, but don’t call me on this line. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: 25 I understand. but -- 20 24 I understand. I was going to be giving you a call, and stuff, 18 23 The that. 16 22 And time is of the essence. You better not waste any time because 12 19 And -- and time is of the sooner -- in other words -- 10 17 Okay. essence, I understand. CALLER: 15 I And you need to do that. 7 9 That is super-duper. appreciate that because I was going to be calling you tonight. 4 6 Okay. Yeah. I understand. And -- and I wish you luck on the things you do, you’ll be fine. And then, is -- is -- just give me a call any time you (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: Actually, she’s on the floor right HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 178 1 now working with (b) (6) 2 on this console. 3 she’s -- So she’s available to get on the phone But I believe she’s able to pick up -- I know 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 9 10 11 I need -- -- I need to talk to her. CALLER: ANGELES OPERATIONS: She -- I’ve Okay. I’ll -- I’ll -- I can tell her right now. 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. And (b) (6) (inaudible) to get in touch with you. 15 CALLER: 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. Yeah. And (inaudible). (Inaudible.) Okay. Go into the phone with your energy and -Right now I touched (b) (6) 18 19 CALLER: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 I will. We need to talk. CALLER: 17 Okay. actually -- 12 14 -- she’s here, yeah. ’s wrist. Okay. Right now. And she received the message. 22 CALLER: Okay. 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: And -- and she said, “Okay.” Okay. All right. Well, listen. I’ll catch HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 179 1 up to you later. And I understand what you said. 2 CALLER: 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 where to reach you. CALLER: 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: On my cell phone -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 CALLER: 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Hey, she’s -- -- (inaudible) a person over here. I understand. Okay. then? 15 CALLER: 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 CALLER: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. Yeah. Tell (b) (6) Okay. to call me right away. Oh, right away. I copy, right away. Bye-bye. 21 /// 22 c2727_31_08_2009_180632 25 Right away because -- So -- so just wait a little bit and try to reach you, 13 24 Oh, she -- -- (inaudible). 10 23 just got the message, so Where can she reach you, like, on -- she’s knows 7 14 And (b) (6) she’ll give you a call. 5 6 Okay. Okay. Bye-bye. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Angeles Operations. (b) (6) This is (b) (6) Hey, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) speaking. Hi, (b) (6) HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 180 (b) (6) 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 3 Hey, where’s the DC-10 and the 747 loading out of? dealing with that. Hold on one second. 4 (b) (6) 5 Okay. 6 /// 7 c2727_31_08_2009_180654 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: 10 (inaudible). 11 12 Hey, (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: This is (b) (6) I’ve some battalion big wigs here Well, the 747 has to go back up to Sacramento at McClellan to reload. 13 CALLER: 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 Victorville. 16 CALLER: Really? Okay. Uh-huh. The DC-10 reloads in Victorville’s for the DC-10 and 17 McClellan’s for the 747? 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 Let me let you talk to (b) (6) she’s That is correct. That’s good turnaround for the 747. Wow. Okay. Well, they say it’s 40 minutes. That’s pretty interesting. So if you’re waiting to take a picture -- 24 CALLER: Twenty -- twenty minutes to Sacramento? 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: No. I think it’s probably 40 and -- HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 181 1 CALLER: Forty to and then 40 back? 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 CALLER: 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 CALLER: 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 CALLER: 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: Yeah. Okay. c2727_31_08_2009_180821 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 MR. 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 MR. 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) (b) (6) Angeles Operations. Hey, (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) here. Yes, sir. Can I talk to (b) (6) (Inaudible.) please? You sure can. She is in here Okay. Hold on one second, (b) (6) Hold on, (b) (6) MR. 20 (b) (6) (Inaudible.) 21 /// 22 c2727_31_08_2009_180859 25 Okay. somewhere. 18 24 Uh-huh. Bye. 11 23 More than likely, yeah. I’ll let these guys know. /// 19 Yeah. Thank you. 10 17 Probably. ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Hey, (b) (6) Hi. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Hi. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 182 (b) (6) 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 (b) (6) 3 4 What is (inaudible)? He -- I called him and said to him, “It’s a done deal. Your own number is 0345.” And he said, “Okay. 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 I’ll see you in the morning.” He -- he apparently thought that you 7 said that it didn’t go through. 8 not the best. His understanding sometimes is So he -- 9 (b) (6) 10 Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 12 fire. 13 to go to. He thinks he’s being (inaudible) and doesn’t have a job (b) (6) 14 Okay. He’s got a job to go to. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 -- he does not think that he’s on the I know. I was (inaudible) but I 16 didn’t want to tell him that if -- if I -- if something was 17 going on that I didn’t know about, something that the team had 18 done, or something. (b) (6) 19 22 23 24 25 It’s a -- it’s a done deal. And so if you want to call him back and say, “You are 20 21 No. on. And sorry for the miscommunication, if there was any.” ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. You know, but, I mean, he said he was going to be -- he said he’d be here, you know, in the morning. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 183 (b) (6) 1 So -- okay? ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 (b) (6) 3 Thank you very much. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 (b) (6) 5 7 /// 8 c2727_31_08_2009_182028 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 10 CALLER: 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 CALLER: 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 (b) (6) Hi. Can you release it? (Inaudible.) Angeles Operations. (b) (6) Hi. Angeles Operations. (b) (6) Oh, I’m (inaudible) I didn’t hear you. Yes. Hey (inaudible) 94? Okay. And ask him to call (b) (6) (b) (6) Okay. (phonetic). 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: on his cell phone. For (b) (6) (b) (6) on cell, Okay. (Inaudible) (b) (6) CALLER: (b) (6) (b) (6) Bye-bye. (Inaudible.) 19 21 You’re welcome. Bye-bye. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 Okeydokey. (inaudible). I understand. I’ll have him call on cell. 22 CALLER: His (inaudible) bigger than yours? 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 /// 25 c2727_31_08_2009_182509 Okay. Bye. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 184 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 (b) (6) 2 (b) (6) 4 5 Can you show us out of service for the rest of ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Yes. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 (b) (6) 10 (b) (6) 12 (b) (6) 14 All right. 15 /// 16 c2727_31_08_2009_190121 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 CALLER: 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 CALLER: 23 Copy that. Okay. Got that. Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 Okay. And then the VPs know about it. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 22 Out of service for the rest of the day? 8 21 Hey, what’s up, (b) (6) (inaudible). 6 7 This is (b) (6) on Engine 18. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 Angeles Operations. Bye. Bye. Angeles Operations. Hey, how you doing? This is (inaudible). Uh-huh. We went in (inaudible) here. I don’t know if you guys copied that, about four hours ago (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: I just got in. We’re doing a shift change. 24 CALLER: Okay. 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: So you’re -- so Engine 39’s at HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 185 1 Arnaldo? 2 CALLER: 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 No. We’re at (inaudible). Yeah. We haven’t even gotten to our briefing yet, so -- 7 CALLER: 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: Okay. -- so -- 1238 (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 11 Oh, at (inaudible) okay. 1238, apparently, according to this, is at Little Rock. 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Oh -- 16 CALLER: That’s (inaudible). 17 Okay. Oh -- All right. Talk to you guys later. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 19 /// 20 c2727_31_08_2009_190855 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 MR. 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 MR. 25 All righty? (b) (6) (b) (6) Hi. All right. Bye-bye. Angeles Operations. This is (b) (6) (b) (6) at L.A. Center. Uh-huh. Hey, we handle you guys’ (inaudible) when you want to put them out. And I have a pilot calling me in HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 186 1 reference to (inaudible) for the one at the fire. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 3 Hold on. MR. 5 (b) (6) Thank you. 6 /// 7 c2727_31_08_2009_190929 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 MR. (b) (6) Hi. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 MR. (b) (6) Hi. (b) (6) at L.A. Center. Hello. We put you guys at (inaudible) and we’re down at the contact facility. I had a pilot calling me about the fire near 13 La Canada. 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 MR. 17 Angeles Operations. This is (b) (6) 10 14 Let me have you talk to Aircraft. 4 12 Okay. (b) (6) Uh-huh. And he’s saying he’s trying to get into Aqua Dulce tomorrow. 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 MR. 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 MR. (b) (6) (b) (6) Uh-huh. He said it’s right on the edge of your TFR. Uh-huh. He wants to know if he’s going to have 22 trouble getting in there. 23 exactly where Aqua Dulce is in relation to that. 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 MR. (b) (6) I don’t have the map. He told me Aqua Dulce Air -- Air Park? Yes. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 187 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 1 2 /// 3 c2727_31_08_2009_191057 4 5 I’m -- let me check. (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: CALLER: 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 CALLER: 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Hang on. I’ve got two phones going on at once. CALLER: 11 five (inaudible). Hang on one second. No problem. Sorry about that. 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 Okay. I’m sorry, ma’am. 10 16 can I have the air ops give you a call? 6 15 Hold on. I have two, three, and four -- I know. Okay. Okay. Could I have the Air Operations give you a call on that? CALLER: Sure. Actually, if you want, you can have them give this guy a call. 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CALLER: 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 CALLER: Okay. That’d be good. If they want to call me, they can. No. They can call him. The gentleman’s name is (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) . , (b) (6) . Okay. His number is (805) -Uh-huh. -- 688-9990. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 188 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 CALLER: 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Thank you. 4 /// 5 c2727_31_08_2009_195352 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 CALLER: 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: Thank you. Bye-bye. Angeles Operations. (Inaudible.) 238, what’s up? (Inaudible.) 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 CALLER: 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 CALLER: 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 Okay. Uh-huh. (Inaudible.) What was it, now? (Inaudible.) Did -- what do you want, exactly? Well, I (inaudible). So you want to trade it in to that number? 18 CALLER: Yeah. 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3677. 20 CALLER: Thank you. 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 CALLER: 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: All right. All right, man. Put me on (inaudible). Okay, man. Thank you. Bye. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 189 1 /// 2 c2727_31_08_2009_201018 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 (b) (6) 4 (b) (6) 6 (b) (6) 8 problems. 11 c2727_31_08_2009_201038 ANGELES OPERATIONS: CALLER: by. Okay. What’s up? No. But there’s a lot been going on, I’m going to call you on (inaudible) stand Okay? 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 CALLER: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: All right. Okay? Yeah. 19 20 Hey, (b) (6) Good evening. so I -- why don’t you give it a shot. 14 15 (phonetic). Do you hear my -- /// 13 What? (Inaudible) my husband on the (inaudible) radio 10 12 I’m sorry. This is (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 9 (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 Angeles Operations. with him, (b) (6) Uh-huh. It -- it’s a good signal. I’m on the phone He’s doing a test. 21 Did you hear it okay? 22 Yeah. 23 Yeah. We’ve got you loud and clear. 24 /// 25 c2727_31_08_2009_201125 HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 190 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) 2 : Hey, (b) (6) (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 (b) (6) 4 Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 6 /// 7 c2727_31_08_2009_201737 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 MR. 10 (b) (6) Sure thing. (b) (6) (b) (6) Hi. All right. Bye-bye. Angeles Operations. Dispatch, my name is (phonetic). I’m in an off-duty 80-13 -- 11 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 MR. (b) (6) Uh-huh. -- on one of the crew, off the Angeles. And I’m just letting you know, I’m at the top of Van 14 15 Aldan Avenue and the Mulholland -- Mulholland Drive Fire 16 Road -- 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 MR. 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 MR. 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 MR. 23 24 25 (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) Mulholland Drive? -- (inaudible) it. Mulholland Fire Drive, and where? Van Aldan Avenue. Van Aldan? Yes. And I -- I’m just -- I’m letting you guys know that, from my vantage point, which is a good 15 miles southwest -ANGELES OPERATIONS: Uh-huh. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 191 1 MR. (b) (6) -- western -- West San Fernando Valley, I 2 see a flare up on the far eastern flank, it looks like. 3 looks like it’s coming over the ridge. 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 MR. 6 7 8 9 10 11 Okay. I’m not sure -- I -- like I said, from my vantage point, I can’t tell what ridge it is. ANGELES OPERATIONS: What -- looking forward where? Towards the fire? MR. (b) (6) Yes. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Looking towards the fire. Okay. And what’s -- so there’s a fire there. What -- what -- what do you mean? 12 13 (b) (6) And it Because we’ve got thousands of people out there. What -- you’re 15 miles away. 14 (b) (6) 15 MR. 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: I mean -- I understand -- I understand what -There’s a lot of people that are 17 going to be seeing it, if you can see it from 15 miles away. 18 I mean, thanks for the information, but there’s -- 19 the fire’s huge. 20 normal for a fire that’s over 106,000 acres. (b) (6) I mean, so what you’re seeing is what’s 21 MR. 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 MR. 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 MR. (b) (6) (b) (6) I -- I realize that. Yeah. I do have a question for you, though. Sure. At what point do we lose the forest HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 192 1 completely? Once it crosses 238? 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 MR. 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 (b) (6) You don’t know? (b) (6) MR. 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 MR. 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) (b) (6) 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 MR. 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) (626) -- Uh-huh. MR. -- 821 -- Uh-huh. -- 6700. Okay. Okay. Nope. I apologize. No. No problem. You’re lucky you even got through, because we’re -- 14 we’re very busy in here. (b) (6) 16 MR. 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 MR. 20 I’ll give you an information Okay. 10 19 No. number, though, and you can ask them. 6 15 I have no idea. (b) (6) I understand that. Yeah. Can you tell me -- I don’t know if you have a 209 in front of you -- which (inaudible) if any? ANGELES OPERATIONS: I don’t have a 209 in front of me. You can call that info number, maybe they do. 21 (b) (6) 22 MR. 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 MR. 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: (b) (6) Okay. All right? Thank you. Uh-huh. Bye. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 193 1 /// 2 c2727_31_08_2009_202517 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 MR. 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 MR. 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 MR. 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 MR. (b) (6) (b) (6) still there? Who? (b) (6) Yeah. (phonetic). Who’s this? (b) (6) Oh, (b) (6) I just never get your (b) (6) Will you have him call my cell (inaudible) cell phone. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 14 Hey, is (b) (6) voice right, man. 11 12 (b) (6) Angeles Operations. Okay. I’ll have him call your cell right now, (b) (6) (b) (6) 15 MR. 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 MR. (b) (6) Thanks, man. All right, man. Bye-bye. Okay. 18 /// 19 c2727_31_08_2009_203547 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Angeles Operations. 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CALLER: 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. 25 CALLER: Thanks. (Inaudible.) Oh, no. 203 out of service? I’ve been out of service (inaudible). All right. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 194 1 /// 2 c2727_31_08_2009_203807 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 MR. 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 MR. 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 now -- (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) Can I speak to (b) (6) Hi. (b) (6) Who’s calling? (inaudible). Who? Yeah. (b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 MR. 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 15 MR. Yeah. Okay. 16 /// 17 c2727_31_08_2009_211753 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: I’m asking who’s speaking right (b) (6) Okay. He has your contact number? Have him give me a call. Okay. I sure will. Thank you. Angeles Operations. Oh, you can. Can I help you? It’s LA-77. Hi, LA-77. (Inaudible.) What’s that? 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 (b) (6) on the phone -- so I can pass him a message. 12 22 (inaudible)? Who? (b) (6) MR. (b) (6) Can I help you? (b) (6) 11 (b) (6) Angeles Operations. I said, “Hi, LA-77.” Oh, I’m okay. How are you? My handheld must not have enough power left, apparently (inaudible). HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 195 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 CALLER: 3 4 5 6 No. No. I can try and see. No. I think the (inaudible) locked the door, so I’m going out of service. ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. CALLER: No. LA-79 is out of service. of service with me right now. 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 11 12 CALLER: Oh, how funny. Guess what? LA-76 went out service hours ago. 14 CALLER: 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 19 I’ve go LA-71 and LA-76 and I don’t have LA-79 on my -- ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 Okay. LA-76 is going out LA-77. 13 16 And LA-76 and 71 is still in service? 7 9 Want me to try? Wow. LA-71 went out of service around 18:00. Wow. Well, we’re just changing shifts, so don’t blame the A-Team. CALLER: Okay. There you go. I won’t. And then LA-79 has been working with you tonight. And he’s going out of service with me right now. 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CALLER: Okay. So -- well, he (inaudible). Pardon? You guys (inaudible) the fire dispatch before 24 they hand it off; right? 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, we still get a majority of the HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 196 1 stuff, especially like the law enforcement stuff; the 2 evacuations, and now, you know, a lot of the other law 3 issues -- law enforcement issues that we got going on right 4 now. 5 CALLER: 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 CALLER: 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: 10 11 14 15 16 17 (Inaudible.) 106,000 acres. What was that? I couldn’t hear you. 106,000 acres in five days. But is it looking pretty (inaudible) still? ANGELES OPERATIONS: Five percent containment. So, I mean, it’s -- it’s -I don’t know if we’re running out of fuel to burn, 12 13 Right. or -- but, you know -CALLER: So here’s my question: The houses (inaudible) a problem? ANGELES OPERATIONS: They were more cabin homes. I -- I mean, we -- I can’t tell you exactly 18 because -- I mean, you know, some were cabins, some pretty -- 19 they wasn’t multi-million-dollar homes. 20 maybe to those persons it -- it could have been considered 21 multi-million-dollar home. 22 CALLER: 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 But then, you know, Really? Well -- I know -- I know you guys (inaudible) so I (inaudible) if maybe (inaudible) inadvertently -- you did HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 197 1 inadvertently fix some of those problems, if that makes sense. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 3 Well, maybe -- maybe it did. CALLER: 4 5 Well, yeah. Because some of those people aren’t going to be allowed to rebuild. 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 CALLER: 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: Exactly. Exactly. So -I mean, you know -- -- you’re going to have to talk to your law 10 enforcement people (inaudible) over the years to find out more. 11 But it’s (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 Yeah. We had a lot of issues. And a 13 lot of those individuals won’t be able to rebuild them. 14 the problems that we were having with those individuals -I mean, you know, could be a blessing in disguise, 15 16 17 18 so -CALLER: Right. Because weren’t a lot of those (inaudible) cabins (inaudible) year-round homes? 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 20 CALLER: 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 CALLER: 23 And Yes. Uh-huh. Exactly. See, I’m being (inaudible.) Oh, wow. There you go. I know. It sounds like you got burned for people living here year round. 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 CALLER: Yeah. It -- it is. It is. So -- and were there five guys at (inaudible) HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 198 1 County? 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 CALLER: 4 Okay. So (inaudible) out in San Bernardino, though, and -- 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: 7 They were L.A. County guys. Yeah. -- (inaudible). That’s terrible. That was horrible. 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: So, yeah. Yeah. (Inaudible) it’s just hard -- hard to 10 say (inaudible) we’ve been seeing things to last over the last 11 few years. So there (inaudible) usually the wind is -- 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: It’s wind-driven. Yep. So they’re pretty spectacular. Yeah. This is -- I’ve never seen a 15 fire burn this fast in this -- not -- short of days. 16 acres in -- in five days. 17 CALLER: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 100,000 (Inaudible) fire did you have? No. The fire started on the 26th, and we’re on the 31st. So I think you’re looking at, you know -- that’s a lot of acreage in -- in a short amount of time. CALLER: You know, I -- I don’t think Southern California has a fire (inaudible) or (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. I mean, fire season is heavy, you know, every -- it’s year round out here now. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 199 1 CALLER: 2 (inaudible). In a few (inaudible) it has stopped. 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 (inaudible). 6 Yep. That’s true. The problem is (inaudible) blowing in ANGELES OPERATIONS: So that might give us -- that might 7 be a blessing in disguise. 8 weather, you know, to help with the -- hurricane. 9 never know. 10 11 So It might get a little bit of But you You know, you don’t know if -- CALLER: (Inaudible.) ANGELES OPERATIONS: Exactly. We don’t know if we’re 12 going to get some -- some rain with it, or we don’t know if 13 we’re going to get some wind with it, so that’s -- 14 15 16 CALLER: No. No one knows. It’s an interesting (inaudible) Santa Ana (inaudible) situation, so -- 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 CALLER: 19 20 Uh-huh. -- are you guys (inaudible)? I know you guys are dealing with the fire over there, try to be patient. 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 CALLER: Okay. And there was one more thing, and I’m up here 23 (inaudible) until -- you know how you had the list of 24 supervisors? 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yes. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 200 CALLER: 1 2 Until we exit the calendar year, I’m going to be doing 120-day (inaudible) acting supervisor. 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: 7 (inaudible). So if (b) (6) and (b) (6) (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: 10 (inaudible). I have Okay. (Inaudible) if I’m working, please call 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. So -And I mean -- I -- I highly suggest -- can you hold one second? CALLER: 15 Sure. 16 /// 17 c2727_31_08_2009_212359 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 Okay. (Inaudible) and I’m an acting supervisor. 8 14 Okay. Okay. LA-77? Yeah. I strongly suggest that you send that in an e-mail to one of the supervisors. 22 CALLER: Well, I’m going to do that. 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Okay. I’ve got to send an email to our staff. Just -- yeah. Because I -- HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 201 1 CALLER: 2 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 3 (Inaudible.) that’s -- that’s the right format we need. 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: 7 (inaudible). Okay. I’ll -- -- send her an email and copy you guys because Well, we’ve got another call. We’ve got a fire, so that’s why. 10 CALLER: 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: A fire? Yeah. (Inaudible.) Okay. I’ve got it all. Bye. 16 /// 17 c2727_31_08_2009_214120 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 EDWARD 12: 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 EDWARD 12: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 EDWARD 12: 24 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 25 Okay. ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 9 I strongly recommend that because Bye-bye. Angeles Operations. Hey, what’s Edward 10 going to? Who’s this? What’s that? Who is this? This is Edward 12. Oh, hold on. Where do you got Edward 10 going to? HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 202 (b) (6) 1 (b) (6) 2 Oh, my gosh. I’ve got my hands full. I’ll talk to them. 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 5 /// 6 c2727_31_08_2009_214229 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 CALLER: 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Put them on hold. Hold on. Edward-12. Yes. 10 short of it? 11 CALLER: 12 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 13 CALLER: 14 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Do you want the long of it, or the How about if we need to go to it? No. Okay. No. They’ve got it handled. The short of it is, is that one of the firefighters 15 16 working a division up there came upon some individuals that 17 they thought law enforcement would be interested in. Oh, law enforcement heard his -- his statement on the 18 19 radio, and advised -- asked me to contact one-charlie-one -- 20 CALLER: 21 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 22 25 Oh, okay. -- and find out what they wanted to do. One-charlie-one kind of saw it one way. 23 24 I -- that way. I relayed They gave additional information. And I had contacted the investigator from the HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 203 1 San Bernardino, got a hold of her. 2 one-charlie-one on the phone. 3 a pow-wow. They got -- they got together in And then I gave the instructions to Edward-10 and 4 5 I had her on the phone, got Edward-19, which they’re going to follow up on. And then after that, they’re going to get a hold of 6 7 one-charlie-one and probably get a talk to, or -- I don’t know 8 what. 9 CALLER: Okay. 10 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 11 CALLER: 12 13 So -- So are they just taking the individuals down and off the hill, is that it? ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, they’re going to do -- they’re 14 going to FI them, photograph them, right and left thumb print, 15 all three, and then transport them to a location near a phone. 16 CALLER: Oh, okay. 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 CALLER: 19 ANGELES OPERATIONS: And I -- Sounds good. -- and, I suspect, maybe see if, at 20 the phone booth, maybe somebody might come to pick them up. 21 That’s a -- 22 CALLER: Yeah. 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 ANGELES OPERATIONS: -- possibility. Where -- where -- where were they found at? (Inaudible) Box. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 204 CALLER: 1 Oh, okay. All right. 2 Thanks. 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 Okay. Oh, unless you want to say something else. CALLER: 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 Bye. Bye. 7 9 All right. No, we’re (inaudible). Oh. /// c2727_31_08_2009_215603 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: 15 (inaudible). Yes. Yes. Hi. Angeles Operations. Are you the Forestry Department? Yes, sir. Contact the -- just contacting the 16 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 17 CALLER: 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: Pardon? I’m contacting any senior officer. For what? What purpose? For some help with -- I did talk to the Anaheim 20 Fire Department, they told me to call you to get on a list 21 to -- and (inaudible) because I’m (inaudible) out of 22 (inaudible) and (inaudible). 23 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 24 CALLER: 25 (inaudible). Okay. I needed to call you to get on a list HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 205 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: Well, you know, I don’t think you’re 2 going to be able to do that tonight. 3 tomorrow. 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 Agent (b) (6) 7 Tomorrow, who do I talk to, do you know? agreement. 9 AGENT this guy is calling to try to get on (b) (6) Just have them call the supervisor’s office (inaudible) and -- and speak with the contracting officer. 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 CALLER: 17 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 18 -- 574 -- -- 5233. And ask to speak to the contract agent -(b) (6) ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: 25 (626) -- Yes. 20 24 Here’s the number to call. (626) -- AGENT 23 Okay. Okay. 19 22 You could contact -- the -- the E -- you know, the emergency equipment rental 8 10 Okay. Maybe you can do that Contracting officer. -- contracting officer. (Inaudible) and is there a certain person, or just -ANGELES OPERATIONS: the name. I’m just telling you -- I don’t know I’m just telling you the contracting person. CALLER: Got that. Okay. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 206 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 CALLER: 3 So call -- call them in the morning -- 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 CALLER: 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 Okay. Yeah. -- myself -Because you don’t have an agreement already; right? 8 CALLER: No. And -- 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 10 CALLER: 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: 13 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 14 CALLER: 15 ANGELES OPERATIONS: So you want to -- -- (inaudible). -- you want to establish one; right? Correct. Okay. Correct. So, yeah. And -- yeah. I don’t know 16 how quick they’re going to be able to do it, but, you know, you 17 can -- it doesn’t -- it doesn’t hurt to ask. And I’m trying to -- 18 (b) (6) Tell her (b) (6) 19 AGENT 20 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 21 CALLER: 22 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 23 CALLER: 24 25 Oh, (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) is her name. (b) (6) (b) (6) (b) (6) Well, I don’t know. I know they’re in kind of dire straights right now. HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 207 1 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 2 CALLER: 3 Forestry Service? Yeah. So I don’t know how fast they -- is that the Is it an agent with the Forestry -- 4 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 5 CALLER: 6 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 7 CALLER: That is -- -- Service? Okay. Yes, sir. Great. So I don’t know who I contacted. 8 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 9 CALLER: 11 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 12 CALLER: So I contact this -- I know. We get -- we get everything, man. CALLER: Oh, that’s crazy. Yeah. I don’t know. Have you guys been (inaudible) or not really? 17 18 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 19 CALLER: 21 You contact -- -- number -- they gave me this number, I don’t ANGELES OPERATIONS: 16 20 Yeah. even know why I’m (inaudible). 14 15 Got you. This is the dispatch office. 10 13 Who is (inaudible). that? What? Have they been (inaudible) dozers and stuff like Because I’ve seen a couple of guys (inaudible). ANGELES OPERATIONS: Yeah. They’ve -- they’ve been 22 contacting, you know, all types of equipment. 23 any fire that they need, any type of equipment that they need. 24 They do it all the time. 25 CALLER: (Inaudible.) Okay. They do it for So I’m going to contact them HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 208 1 in the morning. Number is (626) 574-5233. 2 3 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 4 CALLER: 5 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 6 CALLER: 7 ANGELES OPERATIONS: 8 CALLER: 9 ANGELES OPERATIONS: All right. CALLER: Bye. 10 11 12 13 Okay. Her name is (b) (6) (b) (6) correct? Yes, sir. Thank you. Bye-bye. Thank you so much. All right. Have a great night. Bye-bye. /// (Conclusion of Recorded Material.) -o0o- 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 HUNTINGTON COURT REPORTERS & TRANSCRIPTION, INC. (800) 586-2988 209