A critique of: Becoming Native to This Place - By Wes Jackson Presented By: Kaylee Anderson Kristin Gregory Kari Poulain A Quote by Stephen Jay Gould “Why should a process that regulated 3.5 billion years of living creatures without explicit ethical systems provide all the answers for a species that evolved only a geological second ago, and then change the rules by introducing such new and interesting concepts as justice and righteousness?” Introduction Our definition of Green Markets Wes Jackson’s Views on Green Markets Our Opinions Regarding Mr. Jackson’s Views Economists’ Views Favoring Green Markets What are Green Markets? Green markets are the government’s use of policies and programs to influence behavior within the marketplace to reduce environmental degradation. Wes Jackson’s View on Green Markets Jackson does NOT believe as a society we should use green markets and green taxes to influence people’s behaviors or the decisions they make. Wes Jackson’s Proposal of the Problem: “Why has our culture, which insists that we plant wheat where the grass huts of old Quivira stood, failed so miserably at finding ways to support as large a population on this land as the natives did?” The problem, according to Jackson, has to do with the nature of the outside subsidy. All problems can be solved at the community level. Jackson’s Thoughts Continued: Humans have a conscience and can differentiate between good and bad. Nature does not have this ability. Individuals should act to optimize their own interests. According to Daly and Cobb, we should be self-regarding versus the current “me, me, me” society. People have good intentions but do not want to take action if it means making sacrifices. Wes Jackson’s Views Regarding Government Intervention Individuals can solve problems without government help. Public policy with the power of the state or nation behind it is almost always implemented at the expense of the community. Sustainable society cannot start with a program from Washington DC. Jackson’s Idea’s Mimic approach: to take advantage of the natural integrities inherent within the system. Nature should be used as a standard rather than industrial systems, especially when dealing with agriculture and farming. This is consistent with Wendall Berry’s thinking. Believes strongly Dr. A.L. Hagedoorn’s Viewpoints. Utility and Beauty Why we Disagree with Mr. Jackson: Views are too idealistic and do not reflect social reality. It is illogical to think that all cities can be broken down into communities. The government exists in order to solve problems. Accountant’s Perspective: Policy is necessary in order to influence behavior. Social Reality By human nature, people are inherently selfish and lazy. If people are self-regarding, the environment will not be given consideration. Voluntary compliance programs are inefficient because of their inconvenience and cost for participants. Example of Program Failure How many people in this room recycle here in Manhattan? A recycling program is in place, but people do not take advantage of it because it is time-consuming and inconvenient. KC and Hutchinson: curb-side pickup, but participants charged a fee for recycling What Society Needs People need regulations or economic incentives in order to change behavior. Examples of regulation: green taxes for carbon emissions Possible incentive plans: tax breaks for hybrid cars and faster carpool lanes Accountant’s Perspective Tax policies in place because voluntary compliance will not occur. Hand-to-mouth consumption is more prevalent than regard for future generations. Behavior of individuals will not change without the implementation of policies. Other Economists that Support Our Opinions Economists in favor of green market: Coase Panayotou Green Markets: The Economics of Sustainable Development By Theodore Panayotou Panayotou Environmental degradation threatens sustainability of growth process. Market failures and policy failures contribute to the growing rate of degradation. Government Intervention is necessary to stop environmental degradation. Dr. Ronald Coase Pollution debates in reality amount to conflicts over the use of scarce resources. He proposes that we solve this conflict in the market, where other conflicts are resolved. By assigning ownership rights and let people trade. Pop Quiz!!! For food from the Bakery! What approach does Wes Jackson propose we use with regards to the environment and nature Hint- It can be found in the 4th section of the handout if you don’t remember from the speech The Mimic Approach Another Opportunity for Food! Where does Jackson say the fundamental problem lies in our environmental problems? Agriculture Final Question What is one of the many reasons why policies have failed? People are selfregarding vs. looking at the whole Human nature- People are selfish Voluntary programs do not work because of the effort one has to put into them Bonus Question Where did Erin Brockovich go to college? K-State!!!!!! Conclusion Wes Jackson takes an idealistic approach regarding environmental degradation and green markets. Social reality is disregarded by Jackon’s views and should be considered. People need regulations in order to influence behavior. Other economists are not too cynical of the ability to change behavior. They are realistic. Questions???? Information from: Becoming Native to This Place; www.landinstitute.org; Class Lectures; www.rightlivelihood.org; www.couterpunch.com