Veterans Resource Centers On
Campus: How To Create, Staff &
Fund A Thriving Center
Dr. John Schupp,
NGG National Director
Helping America’s Best, Brightest and Bravest get their degree
What This Presentation Will Provide
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Variables that affect a student veteran’s graduation
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Why they will graduate if given the right environment
Impact of support centers on today’s campuses
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Their impact on their targeted demographic
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Based on this data, why the VRC will work
What This Presentation Will Provide
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What is a Veteran Resource Center
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Why it creates the right environment
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Impact on the student veteran
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Impact on the campus and community
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Graduation, retention
Financial and human
How to fund it, How to staff it, Where to locate it
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How to gain interest in it within your community
Degree Completion Variables - Civilians
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Credits earned/GPA after 1st year
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Summer credits
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Full or part-time
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Compare to campus veteran programs
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Predict the graduation rate for veterans
Graduation Variables - Civilians
Credits Earned/GPA
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Earned 4yr. degree
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1st year
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1st year
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2.75 GPA university
2.39 GPA comm. college
2nd year
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Attended - no degree
20 or more credits earned
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58 or more credits earned
2.91 GPA
Less than 20 credits
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Less than 2.50 university
Less than 2.32 comm. college
2nd year
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31.6 or more credits earned
2.13 GPA
• Civilians: Full-time needed (12 more credit hrs.) 1st year
• First year GPA is critical to graduation
The Toolbox Revisited: Paths to Degree Completion from High School Through College Clifford Adelman Senior
Research Analyst Policy, Research, and Evaluation Staff
Office of Vocational and Adult Education U.S. Department of Education, February 2006
Experiment to Improve Retention Rates
and Help With Civilian Transition
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Create Vets only ‘Gen Ed’ cohorts - optional
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12 credit hrs. (full-time benefits) ‘vets only’ 1st semester
9 credit hrs. ‘vets only’ classes 2nd semester
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Forced to take 3 more credit hrs. in civilian classes
Track progress of Vets in the classes
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Compare retention rates and
GPAs of veterans
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For cohort classes and
non-cohort classes
Graduation Variables - Veterans
Credits Earned/GPA
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1st yr. totals - 37 students
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Vet cohort only classes
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1st yr. totals - 10 students
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3.54 GPA
170 cr. hrs. attempted/earned
26 avg. credit hrs./student
No cohort classes - Same vets
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No cohort classes
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79 cr. hrs. attempted
71 cr. hrs. earned
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7.2 avg. credit hrs./student
2.57 GPA
154 cr. hrs. attempted/earned
2.93 GPA
• Vet Learning Community improves GPA/credits earned
• Improves probability of graduation
Veteran Variables - Courses Offered
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Some Gen Eds are more difficult than others
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They have been out of high school for 4yrs. or more
English and math are most difficult
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Have not had math in a while
Proper English not spoken/written
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Acronyms, commands, etc.
Communications, sociology, psychology 1st semester
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They have been taught to communicate in many cultures
Military is all about psychology, sociology
Sign language is a good foreign language course
Graduation Variables - Veterans
Courses Offered/GPAs
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Veteran Cohort classes 1st year
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Youngstown State University - Fall 2009
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Sociology
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General Psychology
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5 students 3 cr. hrs. - 3.60 GPA
Math - Elementary Algebraic models
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21 students 3 cr. hrs. - 2.70 GPA
Communications
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17 students 3 cr. hrs. - 3.33 GPA
6 students 1.14 GPA
26 total different students in these 4 classes
Graduation Variables - Civilians
Summer Courses
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Civilians
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Summer classes and decreasing drop out rate
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One summer term (4 credits)
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10 credits or more
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54.8% continue on to complete next full academic year
61.1% continue on to complete next full academic year
Every summer term completed
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Increases graduation by 11.2%
The Toolbox Revisited: Paths to Degree Completion from High School Through College
Clifford Adelman Senior Research Analyst Policy, Research, and Evaluation Staff
Office of Vocational and Adult Education U.S. Department of Education, February 2006
Graduation Variables- Veterans
Summer classes
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Many veterans will take summer courses
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65% vets take them on 3 university campuses
sampled
They are on a tight schedule
They continue their BAH
They continue enrollment
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Less chance for VA to mess it up
Summer courses increase GI Grad probability
Graduation Variables - Full or Part-Time
Civilians
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Degree attainment after 6 years
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Part-time students
 14.9% obtained degrees or certificates
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2.2% Associate’s degrees, 12.7% certificates
0% Bachelor’s degrees
73.4% were no longer enrolled after 6 years
Full-time students
 64.4% obtained degrees or certificates
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8.3% Associate’s, 12.4% certificates
43.7% Bachelor’s degrees
28.2% were no longer enrolled after 6 years
The Toolbox Revisited: Paths to Degree Completion from High School Through College
Clifford Adelman Senior Research Analyst Policy, Research, and Evaluation Staff
Office of Vocational and Adult Education U.S. Department of Education, February 2006
Graduation Variables - Veterans
Full/Part-time
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Most Chapter 33 Veterans will go full-time
 Latest data shows 82% are full-time
4 campuses, 4 states, over 800 total Chapter 33 vets
They get full-time BAH
Their time is limited
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Only 36 months allowed - not credit dependent
Need to finish in 4 each 9 month academic years
They want to finish and get on with their lives
Full-time increase GI Grad probability
Veteran Variables - Attendance
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All veteran classes = counseling sessions
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Vets arrive early to classes, always
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Classroom offers chance for mini counseling session
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Before class starts, open discussions take place
Past military events, future plans, family issues
Easier to discuss past when you immediately focus on future
Vets want to come to campus, they want to come to class
Attendance increases - Increase GI Grad probability
Other Variables Affecting Enrollment
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Veteran department/person
Location of the veteran department on the campus
Certifying official
Veteran lounge/center on campus
Total student veteran population
Student Veteran Organization
We will compare student veteran/service-member
enrollment data from Fall 2009 to Spring 2010
Veterans Department or Person?
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Community College
Veterans Dept.
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1.4% Increase
Person
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4.3% Increase
University
Veterans Dept.
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3.4% Increase
Person
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5.1% Increase
Veteran ‘Department’ may change people. The Veteran ‘person’
usually is not changed. This familiarity is comforting to the veteran.
Increase comfort = Vet will go to them for support
Ohio’s Student Veteran enrollment-The impact of Ohio’s Best, Brightest and Bravest on the
State of Ohio - Ohio Board of Regents, Dr. John Schupp, September 2010
Certifying Official - Duties
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Community College
Many responsibilities
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6.3% Decrease
Sole responsibility
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4.4% Increase
University
Many responsibilities
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4.5% Decrease
Sole responsibility
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6.9% Increase
• Certifying officials usually have many responsibilities
• Veteran paperwork problems may not be the top priority
• Vets problems not solved, vets drop out
Total Campus Veteran Population
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Community College
Under 300 total vets
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2.7% Increase
University
Under 400 total vets
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0.3% Increase
Over 300 total vets
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2.9% Decrease
Over 400 total vets
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4.9% Increase
A Critical mass must be reached. When a threshold of 300 vets for a CC,
or 400 vets for a university is reached, the veterans can find each other,
support each other, and stay on campus.
Less than these numbers, vets cannot find each other, don’t get the
support and drop out. Shows the need for a veteran lounge.
Student Veteran Organization
Community College
 Organization not present
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2.7% Increase
Organization present
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University
 Organization not present
3.1% Decrease
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3.2% Increase
Organization present
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5.1% Increase
Student Veteran Organization provides support for student veterans,
support leads to retention.
Community colleges - there are only 2yrs. of student veterans present
Too much emphasis on recruiting members and electing officers.
Impact of a Veteran Lounge/Resource
Center
Community College
 Lounge not present
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1.2% Increase
Lounge present
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University
 Lounge not present
3.9% Increase
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2.7% Increase
Lounge present
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5.6% Increase
Having a place for the student veteran to go to
impacts enrollment.
Student veteran can find other student veterans for
support here.
The Impact of Other Campus Programs
for ‘At Risk’ Demographics
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Women’s Centers
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African American Centers
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Hispanic/Latino/a Help Centers
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Offices for Inclusion and Inter-cultural initiative
Success Rates of Student Support Centers
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Women’s Center on Campuses
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1960 - 35% of all Bachelor’s degrees were awarded to women
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2004 - 58% of all Bachelor’s degrees were awarded to women
Success due to many factors
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“What has changed is that more women are now using their
longstanding academic advantages and translating them into college
degrees.”
“In the 1960s and 70s, girls were getting better grades, but many young
women were not going to college, or they were dropping out of college to
get married. Now the benefits of a college education are growing faster
for women than they are for men, and women are taking advantage.”
(Claudia Buchmann, co-author of the studies and associate professor of sociology at Ohio
State University)
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Women’s centers had to play some role in this success
Success Rates of Student Support Centers
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Campus Women’s Support Centers
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National Education Longitudinal Study
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College enrollment of students sampled
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52% of girls, 51% of the boys
College grads of those enrolled in 4yr. campus
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12,000 students from around the country
Born in 1973-74, studied through to year 2000
63% of women graduated
55% of men graduated
Women are in the majority on most college campuses
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Women’s centers are present on most college campuses
Success Rates of Student Support
Centers- African Americans
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Graduation Rates Nationwide - 2001-2005
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42% of all African Americans who enter college graduate in
6 years or less
62% of Caucasian students who enter college graduate in
6 years or less
The Trend - African Americans
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Women between 1990 and 2005
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Men between 1990 and 2005
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Graduation rate increased from 34% to 46%.
Graduation rate increased from 28% to 35%.
Journal of Blacks in Higher Education - July 2006
http://www.jbhe.com/features/50_blackstudent_gradrates.html
Reasons for Changes in the Trends
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Racial climate
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Creating a favorable environment for African Americans on
the campus
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“A nurturing environment for black students is almost certain to have
a positive impact on black student retention and graduation rates.”
Brown University - very well known positive environment
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Third World Transition Program (TWTP)
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Provide students with a safe space to discuss issues and concerns
that effect minority students in predominantly white institutions
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Offers the opportunity to explore the types of institutional supports
available to help negotiate such environments
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/02/18/minority-report.html
http://www.brown.edu/Student_Services/TWC/MPCs/index.html
Reasons for Changes in the Trends
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Many campuses with high African American graduation
rates
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Have orientation and retention programs
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Mentoring programs
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for African American first-year students involving upperclassmen
Strong African American student organizations
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Help African American students adapt to the culture of
predominantly white campuses
Help create a sense of belonging among the African American
student population.
Relatively large core of African American students on campus
Success Rates of Student Support
Centers - Hispanics
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Graduation rates nationwide - 2005-2007
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51% of all Hispanics who enter college graduate in 6
years or less
59% of Caucasian students who enter college
graduate in 6 years or less
Reasons for low Hispanic graduation rates
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Financial challenges
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For debts as low as $200
Less likely to be aware of loan
and scholarship assistance
By KATHERINE LEAL UNMUTH / The Dallas Morning News
kunmuth@dallasnews.com Published 22 March 2010 02:31 AM
Hispanic/Latino Grad. Rates - Texas Campuses
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Southern Methodist University
 71% Hispanic graduation rate
 73% Caucasian graduation rate
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University of Texas
 69% Hispanic graduation rate
 77% Caucasian graduation rate
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Reason for SMU Success
 Specific multicultural coordinator
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Focused on programs for Hispanic students
Mentoring programs among the Hispanic students and alumni
Scholarships provided by a Hispanic alumni association
SMU Assistant Provost Anthony Tillman
"We get them connected to the institution and oriented," he said.
"There's a strong bridge of support."
By KATHERINE LEAL UNMUTH / The Dallas Morning News
kunmuth@dallasnews.com Published 22 March 2010 02:31 AM
Success of Student Support Centers
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Create a favorable campus climate for the
demographic
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Have department or centers for the demographic
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Establish specific coordinators for the demographic
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Establish mentors for the demographic
What Other Campuses Offer
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What other campuses offer their student population
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We went through a few websites
Summed up what they offer for their students
Variety of locations
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Rural
City
Variety of Size
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Private
Public
Other campus ‘Support Centers’
Michigan State University
www. msu.edu
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Office for Inclusion and Inter-Cultural Initiatives
Family Resource Center
Multi-Cultural Center
Office on International Students and Scholars
Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Resource
Center
Resource Center for Persons with Disabilities
Women’s Resource Center
Georgia State University
www.gsu.edu
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Student Support Services
Office of Disability Services
Child Care Access Means Parents In School
(CCAMPIS)
Educational Opportunity Center
Educational Talent Search
Ronald E. McNair Program
Student Support Services
Upward Bound Programs
Veterans Upward Bound
Upward Bound Math-Science
Colorado State University
www.colostate.edu
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Office of Equal Opportunity
Asian/Pacific American Cultural Center
Black/African American Cultural Center
El Centro Student Services
Native American Cultural Center
Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Resource
Center
Women’s Programs and Studies
Resources for Disabled Students
University of Vermont
www.uvm.edu
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Office of Affirmative Action and Equal Opportunity
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Diversity and Equity Unit
Accommodation, Consultation, Collaboration and Educational Support
Services (ACCESS)
ALANA Coalition
ALANA Student Center
Center for Cultural Pluralism
Center on Disability and Community Inclusion (CDCI)
The Learning Co-Op
Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Questioning and Ally Services
(LGBTQA)
Office of the Associate Provost for Multicultural Affairs and Academic
Initiatives
Student Life - Diversity on Campus
Summer Enrichment Scholars Program (SESP)
The TRiO/SSS Program
The Women's Center
University of Arizona
www.arizona.edu
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Diversity Support Centers and Research Units
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African American Student Affairs
Asian Pacific American Student Affairs
Chicano Hispanic Student Affairs
Early Academic Outreach
Native American Student Affairs
ASUA Pride Alliance
ASUA Women’s Resource Center
Baby Cats (students with children)
Child Care and Family Resources
University of Arizona
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Center for Research on Equity and Opportunity/ADVANCE
Cultural and Religious Center
Equity, Access, and Inclusion
Graduate College Diversity Programs
Indian Cooperative Extension
International Affairs
LGBTQ Affairs
Office of Institutional Equity
Office of Outreach and Multicultural Affairs
Social Justice and Leadership Center
Veterans Education and Transition Services
Washington State University
www.wsu.edu
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Office of Student Affairs and Enrollment
Center for Fraternity and Sorority Life
Child Care Resource and Referral Center
Disability Resource Center
Gender Identity/Expression and Sexual Orientation
Resource Center
Multi-Cultural Student Services
Women’s Resource Center
Military and Veterans Programs
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Active Duty
Veterans Affairs Office and Military Advising
Washington State University
from their web page for veterans
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WSU Veterans Affairs Office:
For all veterans related questions please contact Matt
Zimmerman at 509-335-1234 or email veterans@wsu.edu or
visit the office in French Ad, Room 346 on the Pullman campus.
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If you’re one of those lost veterans with many questions but don't know
what to do, stop by the WSU VA Office and find out more about your VA
benefits! Learn how add/drops affect your GI Bill, the awe inspiring
effects of changing credit hours, reimbursement for tutorial assistance,
and more! Plus, this office has a Veterans Affairs counselor who
comes to the campus to provide our Vocational Rehabilitation
(Chapter 31) students with free counseling.
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Matt’s salary and office are funded by the university
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The Student Veterans Office is funded by the Student Government
Association
Washington State is the Exception
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Most campuses have centers for many diverse
populations
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But nothing for their student veterans!
What is the potential impact for a VRC on your
campus and your community?
What should your VRC have?
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Staffing
Location
Funding
Veterans Resource Center
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Role of a VRC
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Provide a place for student veterans to go to feel like
they belong
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Just like other programs/centers for other student
demographics
Provide a campus advocate for the student veteran
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To provide
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A Resource for VA benefits other than just education benefits
Help with VA appointments and classes
Help with campus discrimination against veterans
Help with navigating the campus labyrinth toward graduation
Location of the Veteran Office/Dept.
Data shows to have it near the Student Union, but
not in the center of the Student Union.
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Community College
Student Union
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2.5% Decrease
Separate Admin. Building
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11.2% Increase
University
Student Union
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2.7% Increase
Separate Admin. Building
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5.4% Increase
------------------------------------------------------------------------------Student Union has a lot of people traffic. Vets don’t like crowds.
Vets less likely to visit vet office in Student Union for problems.
Vets problems are not solved. Vets drop out.
Ohio’s Student Veteran enrollment-The impact of Ohio’s Best, Brightest and Bravest on the state of Ohio- Ohio Board of
Regents- Dr. John Schupp, September 2010
Impact of a VRC
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For the student veteran
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Help with transition
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Help with education
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Veterans supporting veterans
Professionals supporting veterans
Campus advocate
Retention
Graduation
Help with finances
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VA Claims
Financial benefits
Bill paying (Veterans Service Commission)
VRC - Student Advocate
Class Selection
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Class selection very important
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Try to group with other veterans for Gen Ed classes
Place with veteran friendly professors
Try to have all classes on 2 or 3 days/week
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Allows them to schedule VA appointments on other off days
Some Gen Eds are more difficult than others
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Communications, sociology, psychology 1st semester
They have been taught to communicate in many cultures
Military is all about psychology, sociology
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Sign language is a good foreign language course
VRC Staffing - From the Campus
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Coordinator should have some level of counseling
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Be the advocate for the student veteran
Understanding the veterans strengths is key
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They are not all victims of PTSD
Be careful hiring ex-military recruiters
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Veterans don’t trust them
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Their recruiter told them anything when they were enlisting
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Once enlisted, recruiter vanished, and so did the promises
Recruiters usually didn’t work with veterans
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They work with high school juniors and seniors
VRC Staffing - From the Campus
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Have civilian women among VRC staff
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Student veterans want to transition
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Have student veterans as work study
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Will make the new student veterans feel at ease
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Women veterans will feel more at home at VRC
Some have Military Sexual Trauma, women in VRC will help
VA pays for them, no cost to the campus
They know the VA and campus process
Have campus graduate be part of VRC team
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Student veterans will respect their success
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Campus grads know how to succeed
Campus grads can be student veteran advocates as well
VRC Staffing - From the Community
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County Veterans Service Commission
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Can help with financial issues for veterans
VA benefits counselor
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To help understand all benefits available to veterans
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VA counselor for major issues
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Not just education benefits
They are trained, and with VA Hospital support
Vet Center counselor for all other issues
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Not a VA counselor - no paperwork filed with VA
No potential loss of ‘concealed carry’ permit
VRC Staffing - From the Community
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Service Officer from a Vet Service Organization
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Potential employers
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AMVETS, VFW, American Legion
To help with claims against the VA
VA will no longer help them once a claim is filed
Want to hire veterans, don’t know where to find them
Big draw for potential student veterans
This ‘staff’ will be free to the campus
Allow them to be there once/month or once/week
VRC - Campus Counseling
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Outside or campus counselors not found as effective
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Student veterans don’t trust them
Counselors on campus - no one stops by
Major Ohio campus has a different approach
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Psychology dept. chair created a peer mentoring program
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Among several student vets
Trained student vets helping student vets
High visitation rate - effectiveness yet to be determined
No suicides among student veteran population
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10-year period
Over 600 student veterans on the campus
VRC - Campus counseling
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If you don’t prepare your campus
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As student veteran enrollment increases
Risk for mental health issues increases
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Two campuses in Midwest
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One with over 800 enrollment
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2 suicides of student vets in 2009-2010 academic year
One with 350 enrollment
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Independent of total vet enrollment numbers
One suicide of a student vet in 2009-2010 academic year
Both do not have a student veteran counseling program
Impact of a VRC
One Academic Year - Examples
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For the student veteran
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Help with transition
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Resiliency test scores improved
Support groups established
PTSD cases diagnosed and treatment started
Help with finances
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Many $1000s paid out to student veterans
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Campus loans, (from treasury services)
Rent paid, utility bills paid (County Veterans Service
Commission)
Books transferred to new student veterans (student veterans)
Impact of a VRC
One Academic Year - Examples
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Campus Advocate
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Two cases of student veteran discrimination
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Both brought before affirmative action department
First Case
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Apology from professor to student veteran
Sensitivity training for entire department
Student remained on campus - transferred to another section
 English paper was accepted for publication
Second Case - Still pending
Impact of a VRC - Education
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Education - Civilian levels at CSU
Only 29 percent of CSU students who enrolled in 2003 had
graduated six years later, according to the Ohio Board of
Regents. (Avg. 6-year grad. rate is 56% statewide)
That ranks CSU 11th among the state's 13 public universities,
ahead of only Central State University and Shawnee State
University.
CSU also ranks 11th in retention - the number of freshmen
who return for a second year was 64% as of 2008
By Karen Farkas, The Plain Dealer Published: Monday, April 11, 2011, 5:08 AM
Impact of a VRC - Education
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Student vets with VRC and cohort classes – CSU

The 1st group - Spring 2008

14 students total
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10 remained after 2nd year
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71% retention rate after 2 years
9 have graduated in Spring 2012

64% graduation rate in 4 years
Veteran Resource Centers
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How to fund it
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Money from grants very competitive

Money from student veteran tuition may not be
enough as of yet

Money from community may not be available
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
Unless you show them the financial impact a VRC
can have on the community
Create a business plan for a campus VRC
Business Plan for the VRC

What a donor would like to see
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
Where their money goes
Who it will impact
How will it impact
What kind of financial impact


What kind of human impact


Return on Investment (ROI)
Lives changed/saved if possible
A 5-year plan for their investment
Starting the Business Plan

What J. Schupp can help you with
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Determine your present vet enrollment
Determine number of veterans in your region
Find the financial impact on the campus
Find the financial impact on the community
Find the human impact on the veteran/family
Obtain ROI (Return on Investment)
You present this report to potential donors
Which Type of Vets to Consider

All service-members/chapters on campus can be
counted
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1606 - National Guard
1607 - Deployed National Guard
Chapter 30 - Montgomery GI Bill, veterans
Chapter 33 - Post 9-11 GI Bill, veterans and families
 With BAH, book stipend, etc.
Chapter 31 - Vocational Rehab.
 Those veterans with disability - full tuition, book stipend,
living stipend
Chapter 35 - Survivors benefits
 Family members of 100% disabled or deceased veterans
Which Type of Vets to Consider

Veterans are most stable number of students on
campus/semester


Chapter 30 and 33, completed their service, will not be
deployed
Are in greatest number for most states
VRC - Goals & Objectives

Five-year goals
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
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Start fund-raising for VRC on your campus Spring
2013
Have a VRC by Fall 2013
Set veteran enrollment goal to a % available in
area - Need to know what your market is
Financial objectives
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Allow for Center to be self-sufficient
Set aside agreed upon % of tuition to run the Center
Obtain funding from campus and area donations
What is the present market?

How many GI Bill eligible Post 9-11
veterans are there in my state?

How many are attending campus presently?

What type of campuses are they attending?

Public, private, for profit?
Total Deployed and returned by State - Active Duty
+Guard/Reserve from 9-11 to April 2012
total ever
State
deployed Returned
Alaska
45,417 40,103
Alabama
40,043 37,321
Arkansas
23,619 22,444
Arizona
40,524 37,135
California
208,760 192,127
Colorado
30,136 27,778
Connecticut
16,678 15,693
D. of Columbia
2,012
1,884
Delaware
6,070
5,609
Florida
232,727 214,510
Georgia
65,318 60,383
Hawaii
11,470 10,712
Iowa
21,728 20,684
Idaho
15,130 14,174
Illinois
85,893 79,983
Indiana
39,224 36,822
Kansas
22,728 21,182
Kentucky
24,600 22,954
Louisiana
35,409 33,400
Massachusetts 27,296 25,309
total ever
State
deployed
Maryland
32,175
Maine
10,462
Michigan
69,037
Minnesota
32,130
Missouri
45,669
Mississippi
28,185
Montana
13,780
North Carolina
59,195
North Dakota
6,609
Nebraska
14,784
New Hampshire
13,274
New Jersey
45,704
New Mexico
15,438
Nevada
22,757
New York
93,195
Ohio
75,742
Oklahoma
31,522
Oregon
30,579
Pennsylvania
89,237
Rhode Island
6,641
returned
29,777
9,862
63,684
29,502
42,233
26,168
12,880
54,489
6,154
13,988
12,497
43,253
14,077
20,867
86,005
69,298
29,523
28,481
84,082
6,065
State
S. Carolina
S. Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Vermont
Washington
Wisconsin
W. Virginia
Wyoming
Totals
total ever
deployed
returned
37,047 33,710
13,502 12,683
69,887 65,046
301,441 277,783
16,070 15,152
64,772 60,644
5,783 5,527
74,294 68,467
33,783 31,472
18,110 17,147
8,085 7,600
2,373,671 2,198,323
The Market of GI Bill Eligible Vets
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September 2012


Approximately 2.4 million service-members have
deployed in support of OEF/OIF
1,318,510 OEF/OIF Veterans left active duty since FY
2002 and are Post 9-11 GI Bill eligible



712,089 (~54%) Former Active Duty troops
606,421 (~46%) Reserve and National Guard
January 2012


962,780 were using their VA Education benefits
594,237 were using Post 9-11 GI Bill benefits

Approximately 25% of total deployed using this benefit
State
Alaska
Alabama
Arkansas
Arizona
California
Colorado
Connecticut
D. of Columbia
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Iowa
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Massachusetts
Maryland
Maine
Michigan
Minnesota
Missouri
potential # of
GI Bill Post 9- 2011 Post 9-11
11 vets
GI Bill usage
23,907
2,592
22,249
11,582
13,380
3,463
22,138
27,992
114,535
63,263
16,560
16,827
9,355
3,276
1,123
2,227
3,344
1,499
127,878
42,607
35,997
19,735
6,386
5,910
12,331
8,176
8,450
2,200
47,681
18,089
21,951
7,312
12,627
5,237
13,684
5,805
19,911
5,681
15,088
7,078
17,751
17,050
5,879
1,581
37,965
8,896
17,587
9,799
25,177
11,592
% usage
10.84%
52.06%
25.88%
126.45%
55.23%
101.61%
35.02%
198.29%
44.83%
33.32%
54.82%
92.55%
66.31%
26.04%
37.94%
33.31%
41.47%
42.42%
28.53%
46.91%
96.05%
26.89%
23.43%
55.72%
46.04%
State
Mississippi
Montana
N. Carolina
North Dakota
Nebraska
N. Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
Nevada
New York
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
S. Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Vermont
Washington
Wisconsin
West Virginia
Wyoming
potential # of
GI Bill Post 9- 2011 Post 9-11
11 vets
GI Bill usage
15,600
4,245
7,678
1,670
32,483
15,539
3,669
1,294
8,339
3,713
7,450
1,736
25,785
6,504
8,392
3,256
12,440
4,180
51,271
17,292
41,311
12,700
17,600
5,899
16,979
6,246
50,125
16,461
3,616
1,424
20,096
9,171
7,561
1,274
38,777
10,105
165,598
49,938
9,033
4,364
36,152
38,883
3,295
1,119
40,816
15,051
18,762
7,355
10,222
6,807
4,531
689
% usage
27.21%
21.75%
47.84%
35.27%
44.53%
23.30%
25.22%
38.80%
33.60%
33.73%
30.74%
33.52%
36.79%
32.84%
39.38%
45.64%
16.85%
26.06%
30.16%
48.31%
107.55%
33.96%
36.88%
39.20%
66.59%
15.21%
What the Trends Show

Average usage rate nationwide - 45.3%

States with active duty bases in yellow have higher
than average Post 9-11 vets on campus

Maryland, Virginia, Hawaii, Colorado


Veteran friendly states, veteran friendly campuses
States with less GI Bill usage than national average
in blue


Vets may move to the state where they were based
May have used the military to leave the area

Region’s/state’s employment rate possible cause
Average Number of Vets
Public Campus

2011 National Center for Education Services data

59.6% of all students use their VA education benefits at
public schools

NGG’s trends show 65% are at universities, 35% at CCs
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4 years of vets at universities, 2 years of vets at CCs
25.5% used VA ed. benefits at private for-profit schools
14.7% used VA ed. benefits at private non-profit schools
What is the average per campus for your state?
Are you above or below your state’s average?
How many are on your campus?
What is the average per campus/state?
Public Universities and Community Colleges
State
Alaska
Alabama
Arkansas
Arizona
California
Colorado
Connecticut
D. of Columbia
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Iowa
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Post 9-11 GI
Bill usage
2,592
11,582
3,463
27,992
63,263
16,827
3,276
2,227
1,499
42,607
19,735
5,910
8,176
2,200
18,089
7,312
# of vets attending # of Public Avg # of Post 9-11 # of Public Avg # of Post 9-11
public campuses
Univ’s vets at public univ’s
CC's
vets at public CC's
1,545
7
148
2
255
6,903
17
272
28
81
2,064
11
126
23
30
16,683
5
2,236
23
239
37,705
37
683
124
100
10,029
15
448
17
195
1,952
12
109
13
50
1,327
893
2
299
1
295
25,394
12
1,418
30
279
11,762
26
303
34
114
3,522
3
787
8
145
4,873
3
1,088
20
80
1,311
7
126
20
22
10,781
13
556
45
79
4,358
14
209
3
479
How many are on your campus?
What is the average per campus/state?
Public Universities and Community Colleges
Post 9-11 GI
State
Bill usage
Kansas
5,237
Kentucky
5,805
Louisiana
5,681
Massachusetts
7,078
Maryland
17,050
Maine
1,581
Michigan
8,896
Minnesota
9,799
Missouri
11,592
Mississippi
4,245
Montana
1,670
North Carolina
15,539
North Dakota
1,294
Nebraska
3,713
New Hampshire
1,736
New Jersey
6,504
New Mexico
3,256
# of vets attending # of Public Avg # of Post 9-11 # of Public Avg # of Post 9-11
public campuses
Univ’s vets at public univ’s
CC's
vets at public CC's
3,121
10
209
24
43
3,460
8
290
19
60
3,386
19
119
10
112
4,218
14
202
18
77
10,162
14
486
16
210
942
9
70
8
39
5,302
14
254
30
58
5,840
13
301
30
64
6,909
14
331
14
163
2,530
9
188
17
49
995
6
111
14
23
9,261
16
388
58
53
771
6
86
7
36
2,213
7
212
6
122
1,035
5
139
7
49
3,876
14
186
20
64
1,941
6
217
19
34
How many are on your campus?
What is the average per campus/state?
Public Universities and Community Colleges
State
Nevada
New York
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Vermont
Washington
Wisconsin
West Virginia
Wyoming
Post 9-11 GI
Bill usage
4,180
17,292
12,700
5,899
6,246
16,461
1,424
9,171
1,274
10,105
49,938
4,364
38,883
1,119
15,051
7,355
6,807
689
# of vets attending # of Public Avg # of Post 9-11 # of Public Avg # of Post 9-11
public campuses
Univ’s vets at public univ’s
CC's
vets at public CC's
2,491
3
556
6
137
10,306
40
173
39
87
7,569
16
317
52
48
3,516
17
139
15
77
3,723
9
277
18
68
9,811
47
140
27
120
849
2
284
1
280
5,466
29
126
17
106
759
7
73
6
42
6,023
11
367
14
142
29,763
42
475
75
131
2,601
5
349
8
107
23,174
20
776
24
319
667
5
89
2
110
8,970
6
1,495
34
263
4,384
13
226
33
44
4,057
7
181
5
268
411
1
275
8
17
Private for-profit and Private non-profit Universities
State
Alaska
Alabama
Arkansas
Arizona
California
Colorado
Connecticut
D. of Columbia
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Iowa
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Total # of Post 9-11 Total # of Post 9-11 vets # of nonPost 9-11 GI
vets attending for
attending non-profit profit private
Bill usage profit private campuses
Private Univ’s
univ’s
2,592
661
381
4
11,582
2,953
1,703
22
3,463
883
509
10
27,992
7,138
4,115
22
63,263
16,132
9,300
157
16,827
4,291
2,474
12
3,276
835
482
19
2,227
568
327
1,499
382
220
5
42,607
10,865
6,263
63
19,735
5,032
2,901
40
5,910
1,507
869
9
8,176
2,085
1,202
37
2,200
561
323
37
18,089
4,613
2,659
89
7,312
1,865
1,075
40
Avg # of Post 9-11
vets at non-profit
private univ’s
95
77
51
187
59
206
25
44
99
73
97
32
9
30
27
Private for-profit and Private non-profit Universities
Total # of Post 9-11 vets Total # of Post 9-11
# of nonAvg # of Post 9-11
Post 9-11 GI
attending for profit
vets attending non- profit private vets at non-profit
State
Bill usage
private campuses
profit Private Univ’s
univ’s
private univ’s
Kansas
5,237
1,335
770
22
35
Kentucky
5,805
1,480
853
28
30
Louisiana
5,681
1,449
835
14
60
Massachusetts
7,078
1,805
1,040
79
13
Maryland
17,050
4,348
2,506
26
96
Maine
1,581
403
232
16
15
Michigan
8,896
2,268
1,308
41
32
Minnesota
9,799
2,499
1,440
32
45
Missouri
11,592
2,956
1,704
55
31
Mississippi
4,245
1,082
624
11
57
Montana
1,670
426
245
3
82
North Carolina
15,539
3,962
2,284
51
45
North Dakota
1,294
330
190
3
63
Nebraska
3,713
947
546
16
34
New Hampshire
1,736
443
255
18
14
New Jersey
6,504
1,659
956
18
53
New Mexico
3,256
830
479
8
60
Private for-profit and Private non-profit Universities
State
Nevada
New York
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Vermont
Washington
Wisconsin
West Virginia
Wyoming
Post 9-11 Total # of Post 9-11 vets Total # of Post 9-11
# of non- Avg # of Post 9-11
GI Bill
attending for profit
vets attending non- profit private vets at non-profit
usage
private campuses
profit Private Univ’s
univ’s
private univ’s
4,180
1,066
614
4
154
17,292
4,409
2,542
125
20
12,700
3,239
1,867
73
26
5,899
1,504
867
16
54
6,246
1,593
918
25
37
16,461
4,198
2,420
106
23
1,424
363
209
9
23
9,171
2,339
1,348
26
52
1,274
325
187
9
21
10,105
2,577
1,485
51
29
49,938
12,734
7,341
59
124
4,364
1,113
642
8
80
38,883
9,915
5,716
49
117
1,119
285
164
19
9
15,051
3,838
2,212
71
33
7,355
1,876
1,081
31
35
6,807
1,736
1,001
13
77
689
176
101
4
25
Market Summary

Millions of GI Bill eligible veterans are not on
campus yet


Data shows information for your state
Most veterans attending public campuses

GI Bill covers complete tuition


Private schools have yellow ribbon programs
J. Schupp can share successful recruiting
strategies

Based upon earlier failures
Starting your VRC - What is the cost?

First Year - Fall 2014 - One Time Capital Costs

Donated by area businesses



Total donated from community - $105,000
Annual costs (Personnel) covered by campus

One each, campus coordinator - $55,000/year




Works in VRC - enrolls student veterans, student veteran advocate
One each, campus recruiter - $36,000/year


Space for center - $60,000; computers, office furniture, etc.- $45,000
Travels the area to meet up with and recruit veterans
$10,000 for office supplies, recruiting needs, etc.
Total Campus costs, first year - $101,000
Total costs, first year - $206,000
Looking at the Pacific Northwest

How many student veterans are presently
enrolled?


How many campuses are there?



Use the average from the previous slides
Private(non-profit)/Public
University, college, community college
What % veterans available are enrolled?

Let’s do the math and approximate!
Number of Veterans - 9 County Region
State and County
Washington State
King
Pierce
Thurston
Snohomish
Kitsap
Mason
Chelan
Kittitas
Yakima
total
Those that have
returned
5,901
10,320
3,233
3,525
3,432
369
187
187
800
22,053
My Source - The VA
Ombudsman’s office
Public Campuses - Average Student Vet Enrollment
Public Campus Name
Bates Technical College
Bellevue Community College
Cascadia Community College
Green River Community College
North Seattle Community College
Olympic College
Pierce College
Seattle Central Community College
Shoreline Community College
Skagit Valley College
South Puget Sound Comm College
Tacoma Community College
Evergreen State College
University of Washington
University of Washington - Bothell
University of Washington - Tacoma
City
Tacoma
Bellevue
Bothell
Auburn
Seattle
Bremerton
Lakewood
Seattle
Shoreline
Mt. Vernon
Olympia
Tacoma
Olympia
Seattle
Bothell
Tacoma
Type of Campus
Community College
Community College
Community College
Community College
Community College
Community College
Community College
Community College
Community College
Community College
Community College
Community College
Totals
Public
Public
Public
Public
Totals
Avg # of
student vets
263
263
263
263
263
263
263
263
263
263
263
263
3,156
1,495
498
498
498
2,990
The Private Campuses in These 9 Counties
& Their Average Student Vet Enrollment
Private Campus Name
Antioch University Seattle
Bastyr University
City University
Cornish College of the Arts
Crown College
Henry Cogswell College
Heritage University
Northwest Graduate School
Northwest University
Saint Martin's College
Seattle Pacific University
Avg # of
student
vets
32
32
32
32
32
32
32
32
32
32
32
City
Seattle
Kenmore
Bellevue
Seattle
Tacoma
Everett
Toppenish
Seattle
Kirkland
Lacey
Seattle
Seattle University
Seattle
University of Puget Sound
Tacoma
247
32
Totals
631
J. Schupp left out
a few of the
smaller private
colleges and
seminaries
J. Schupp has
data on Seattle
University
What is the actual market?

Post 9-11 vets available in the 9 county region


22,053
Approximate total student veterans presently
enrolled in the 9 county region






Public university - 2,990
Public community college - 3,156
Private, non-profit - 247
Private for-profit (big approximation for region) - 2,787
Approximately total enrolled- 9,564
# of Post 9-11 vets available to region
 12,752
Seattle University Present Student Vet Enrollment
Fall 08 Fall 09 Spring 10
Fall 10
Spring 11 Fall 11
Spring 12
Chapter 30
65
45
40
36
31
22
23
Chapter 31
7
13
14
15
15
16
17
Chapter 33
0
58
67
78
94
95
98
Chap 33 dependent
0
0
0
35
31
45
47
58
67
113
126
140
145
Total chapter 33
Chapter 35
17
24
20
48
44
45
46
Chapter 1606
35
30
36
12
11
13
13
Chapter 1607
15
12
13
2
2
2
2
totals 140
183
190
226
229
238
247
Present Financial Impact of Student
Veterans on Seattle University
Semester
Fall 09
Spring 10
% drawn
Total
vets
183
190
1.5%
Guaranteed
Chap 33 VA tuition input
tuition
58
$9,039
$1,653,865
67
$9,039
$1,716,712
$3,370,576
Fall 10
Spring 11
% drawn
226
229
1.8%
113
126
$9,039
$9,039
$2,043,917
$2,068,444
$4,112,361
Fall 11
Spring 12
% drawn
238
247
1.8%
140
145
$9,039
$9,039
$2,147,045
$2,228,632
$4,375,677
Fall 12
Spr 13
% drawn
281
288
2.2%
224
231
$9,039
$9,039
$2,535,660
$2,607,500
$5,143,160
VRC opens
Fall 2013
Max tuition
allowed
Max GI Bill
provided for
private
campuses =
$18,078.
Potential Financial Impact of Student Veterans on
Seattle University
Semester Total vets Chap 33
Fall 13
331
265
Spr 14
338
270
VA tuition input
$9,039
$9,039
Guaranteed
tuition
$2,994,614
$3,050,775
% drawn
2.6%
$6,045,389
Fall 14
391
313
$9,039
$3,536,639
Spr 15
364
291
$9,039
$3,289,075
% drawn
2.8%
Fall 15
462
370
$9,039
$4,176,771
Spr 16
% drawn
430
3.6%
344
$9,039
$3,884,397
$8,061,168
Fall 16
Spr 17
% drawn
546
508
4.3%
437
406
$9,039
$9,039
$4,932,767
$4,587,473
$9,520,240
$6,825,714
Vet
program
begins
Fall 2013
546 GI’s on
campus fall
2017
Financial Plan - Campus Costs

Years 2013-2017

Personnel

VRC/Veterans Services Director - $55,000/year


Veterans recruiter - $36,000/year



3% raises every year - $40,500 by year 2016
Office Supplies and recruiting/event costs - $10,000
Total annual fixed costs by year 2016-17


3% raises every year - $62,000 by year 2016
$112,500
Total annual campus income by year 2016-17

$9.5M
Present Financial Impact of Student
Veterans on City of Seattle
Semester Total vets Chap 33 Monthly BAH
Fall 09
183
58
$1,545
Spring 10
190
67
$1,545
% drawn
1.5%
total
Total BAH
$403,565
$467,634
$871,199
Fall 10
Spring 11
% drawn
226
229
1.8%
113
126
$1,545
$1,545
total
$786,872
$874,206
$1,661,078
Fall 11
Spring 12
% drawn
238
247
1.9%
140
145
$1,545
$1,545
total
$974,248
$1,011,089
$1,985,337
Fall 12
Spr 13
% drawn
281
288
2.2%
224
231
$1,545
$1,545
total
$1,560,363
$1,604,571
$3,164,934
BAH is based
on Chapter 33
vets attending
the campus
Potential Financial Impact of Student
Veterans on City of Seattle
Semester
Fall 13
Spr 14
% drawn
Total vets Chap 33 Your BAH
331
265
$1,545
338
270
$1,545
2.6%
total
Total BAH
$1,842,789
$1,877,348
$3,720,137
Fall 14
Spr 15
% drawn
391
364
2.8%
313
291
$1,545
$1,545
total
$2,176,333
$2,023,990
$4,200,323
Fall 15
Spr 16
% drawn
462
430
3.6%
370
344
$1,545
$1,545
total
$2,570,250
$2,390,332
$4,960,582
Fall 16
Spr 17
% drawn
546
508
4.3%
437
406
$1,545
$1,545
total
$3,035,465
$2,822,982
$5,858,447
ROI - Return on the Investment
Total invested
costs
VRC
Campus
opens
salary A
Fall 2013 salary B
other
Total
VRC
Community
opens
business A
fall 2013 business B
business C
business D
$55,000
$36,000
$10,000
$101,010
$20,000
$20,000
$30,000
$35,000
$105,000
tuition
impact
academic yr
2012-13
BAH
impact
academic yr
2012-13
$6,045,389
ROI
ROI
campus community
(months) (months)
0.17
$3,720,137
0.24
Campus/Community ROI

Community ROI

$105,000 original one time 1st yr. investment in 2013




1st yr. - 265 total chapter 33 veterans on campus Fall 2013
2013-2014 academic year BAH income $3.7M
ROI after VRC opens Fall 2013 - 0.24 months
Campus ROI

$101,000 original one time 1st yr. investment



1st yr. - 331 total veterans on campus Fall 2013
2013-2014 academic year tuition income $6.04M
ROI after VRC opens Fall 2013 - 0.17 months
Total Direct Financial Impact

Direct financial impact of vets on campus by
academic year 2016-2017

Campus


Community


Tuition - $9.5M
BAH - $5.8M
Indirect financial impact of vets on campus

Non-repayment of student loans

Veterans do not have student loans, whether they graduate
or not - this money does not leave the community
Financial Impact: Indirect non-repayment of
student loans, comparing to same # of civilians
student
vets on
campus
start of
1st sem
331
tuition
$3,400
start of start of start of # of GI
2nd year 3rd year 4th year Grads
239
194
157
total loans
from grads
$7,788,992
total loans
from those
who dropped
Total
student
loans
$2,640,801 $10,429,792
127
retention rate
1st year
2nd year 3rd year 4th year
72%
81%
81%
81%
4yr. grad
rate
38%
Using campus retention rates of 85-90% per semester, number
of students enrolled at start of Fall 2013 - 38% 4yr. grad rate
Total Financial Impact

Student Loan impact


GI grads do not pay back student loans
331 civilian students attend by Fall 2013 (same # as student
vets)

At 38% graduation rate - 161 civilians in 2 years




Student loans for grads - $7.8M
Student loans for those who have dropped out - $2.6M
Total civilian student loans to be paid back - $10.4M
GI grads or GI non-grads do not pay back student
loans

$10.4M stays in Seattle
Total Financial Impact of Vets at SU


Direct

(546 total vets on campus Fall 2017) Tuition - $9.5M

(437 chapter 33 vets) BAH - $5.8M
Indirect


Non-student loan payback (2013 class of 331)
 $10.4M
Total financial impact by 2015 - $25.7M

All from a $206,000 investment in 2013
The Human Impact of a VRC

Preventing Substance abuse, Suicide &
Homelessness with our OEF/OIF veterans



PTSD, major depression, feeling disconnected
No “Daily Mission”
VRCs can bring student vets and the VA together




Campus can help local VA find more OEF/OIF veterans
Previous generations of veterans can go to VRC
Vietnam Vets identify with OEF/OIF vets
VRCs can help families of student vets

How many generations can be impacted?
Substance Use Disorder (SUD)

OEF/OIF veterans in 2009




53% had diagnoses of alcohol-only SUDs
21% had diagnoses of drug-only SUDs
26% had diagnoses of both
58% of OEF/OIF vets with SUD diagnoses

had a diagnosis of one or more additional mental
health conditions

PTSD, depression, bipolar disorder, and
schizophrenia
U.S. Government Accountability Office, VA Faces Challenges in Providing Substance Use Disorder Services and Is
Taking Steps to Improve These Services for Veterans, GAO-10-294R, March 10, 2010, http://www.gao.gov/
new.items/d10294r.pdf
Homelessness/SUD Prevention on
Your Campus…if you had a VRC
Total veteran/servicemember campus
Enrollment Spr 17
508
Total Combat
vets on campus
# of vets with
undiagnosed
PTSD/Depression
# of undiagnosed
PTSD/Depression
at risk for
potential
substance abuse
# of undiagnosed
PTSD/Depression
with potential
substance abuse
at risk for
Homelessness
Total vets that
your campus
could prevent
from being
homeless
318
42
31
24
24
From the Rand Report- “The Invisible Wounds of War” 2008
Vets Using the VA Healthcare System
Of 1,318,510 eligible OEF/OIF veterans:

683,521 (52%) veterans have obtained VA health care
since FY 2002


94% seen as outpatients only
6% have been hospitalized at least once

431,453 OEF/OIF veterans accessed VHA care
during the past year.

Bring the VA to the VRCs and increase the likelihood
of OEF/OIF veterans seeing VA Healthcare

Reduce the suicide rate among OEF/OIF veterans
Human Impact of Your CVP

Spring 2017, 508 veterans on Campus

318 combat vets - 42 with undiagnosed PTSD/depression

If untreated



Spring 2017 - 318 combat vets on campus
One suicide over a four-year period
The Campus CVP reduces the risk of these events
Bring the VA to the campus once/week or once/month
 Help VA reach more OEF/OIF vets than the present 52%



31 will have substance abuse issues
24 will spend all GI Bill money on addiction and become
homeless
How many families in Seattle will benefit
from a VRC at Seattle University or several
VRCs in the region?
In region
Ex-Service- Total # of vets Total # of # of reservists
Married
members
18-35
reservists
18-35
Married vets reservists
22,053
18,525
2,993
2,035
On campus
2013
Ex-Service- Total # of vets Total # of # of reservists
members
18-35
reservists
18-35
508
426
69
47
11,688
1,317
Married
Married vets reservists
vets
reservists
269
30
How many families in Seattle will benefit
from a VRC at Seattle University or several
VRCs in the region?
In region
# Spouses of # of Spouses of
Reservists
vets with
reservists
BA
with BA
between 25-35 between 25-35 degrees degrees
13,673
1,467
904
201
On Campus
2013
# Spouses of # of Spouses of
Reservists
vets with
reservists age
BA
with BA
between 25-35 between 25-35 degrees degrees
315
34
21
5
Married vets
with kids
5,108
Married
reservists
with kids
564
Married vets
with kids
118
Married
reservists
with kids
13
How many families in Seattle will benefit
from a VRC at Seattle University or several
VRCs in the region?
In region
single
veterans
single reservists
total # of
children
# of children
with kids
with kids
of veterans
with reservists
461
151
11,137
1,429
total # of
children
# of children
On campus
2013
single
veterans single reservists
with kids
with kids
of veterans
with reservists
11
3
256
33
How many families in Seattle will benefit
from a VRC at Seattle University or several
VRCs in the region?
In region
Age of
zero to 5
4,678
On campus
Age of
zero to 5
108
Children Of vets
6 to 11
3,452
2013
12 to 18 19 to 22
2,573
455
Children Of vets
6 to 11
79
12 to 18 19 to 22
59
10
Of
Age of Children reservists
zero to
5
6 to 11
12 to 18
386
429
443
19 to 22
157
Of
Age of Children reservists
zero to
5
6 to 11
12 to 18
9
10
10
19 to 22
4
By Having a CVP at Seattle University
VRC on campus of Seattle
University
 You could impact




426 vets
69 Guard and reservists
349 spouses
289 children


206 of them younger than
12 yrs. old
At least two generations

All with a small investment
VRCs on several
campuses in the region
 You could impact
 18,525 vets
 2,993 Guard/reservists
 15,140 spouses
 12,566 children

8,945 of them younger
than 12 yrs. old
The Human Impact of a VRC

Preventing substance abuse, suicide &
homelessness with our OEF/OIF veterans

Did we have a suicide problem after other wars
that the US has had over the years?

The answer is…yes.
Suicide rate 100 per 100,000
410,000 veterans in
the region must be
treated in insane
asylums or go home
24,405 mental
cases on record,
only 6,099 beds
to care for them
Suicide Rate Summary for Past 150 yrs.

Suicide Rates per 100,000








Civil war - 30
WW I - 100
WW II - 12.2
Korea - 17.7
Vietnam - 19
OEF/OIF - 45
What impacted these rates?
Why did it drop from WW I to WW II?
This data has been compiled from over 200 documents, citations,
journals and newspaper articles for the past 147 years
Suicide Rates Among WW I Vets

What the WW I vets were facing





Lack of proper psychological analysis
Horrible fighting conditions
Lack of US government concern
Graft/corruption in Veterans Bureau
US society/citizens moving on from the war
All these lead to very high suicide rates
What the Early Psychiatrists Thought

Shell-shock caused the neurosis

The artillery shells caused a ‘molecular rearrangement’ in the brain - Oppenheimer

Soldiers nowhere near an explosion developed ‘shellshock’ symptoms




German POWs exposed continuously to shelling did NOT
develop shell-shock symptoms
Soldiers exposed to gases developed symptoms
1000s of Canadian soldiers with severe head wounds
due to shrapnel had no symptoms of shell-shock
‘Trench Neurosis’ occurs usually in non-wounded
soldiers
Neuropsychiatry and The War, A bibliography with abstracts; Mabel Webster Brown- Librarian, the National Committee for
Mental Hygiene; Edited by Frankwood E. Williams M. D., Associate Medical Director, The National Committee for Mental
Hygiene; The War Work Committee; National Committee for Mental Hygiene Inc.
What the British Doctors Found with
Soldiers with ‘Trench Neurosis’

When the affected soldiers were

Evacuated from the war-front back to England


Treated at advanced base hospitals


Did not respond well to treatment
Treated at hospitals near the war-front


Did not respond well to treatment
Improved much more rapidly
Treated at a combat organization near the front

Was the best method for recovery, when given rest,
encouragement and persuasion
Neuropsychiatry and The War, A bibliography with abstracts; Mabel Webster Brown- Librarian, the National Committee for
Mental Hygiene; Edited by Frankwood E. Williams M. D., Associate Medical Director, The National Committee for Mental
Hygiene; The War Work Committee; National Committee for Mental Hygiene Inc.
What They Found -Timing of Treatment

Immediate attention


As time passes between evacuation & treatment


Best recovery
Less chances for quick recovery
Separation between soldier and his unit

Weakened the bonds with unit

Allowed time for the soldier to think:
If I’m not sick, then I am a coward who abandoned his
comrades. I can’t accept being a coward, therefore I am sick.
Neuropsychiatry and The War, A bibliography with abstracts; Mabel Webster Brown- Librarian, the National Committee for
Mental Hygiene; Edited by Frankwood E. Williams M. D., Associate Medical Director, The National Committee for Mental
Hygiene; The War Work Committee; National Committee for Mental Hygiene Inc.
What This Analysis Means

The psychiatrist offers an alternative hypothesis


A soldier near his unit, both in location or time


You are just tired and will recover when rested
Can expect to get better
A soldier farther away from his unit

Decreases this expectancy

Recovery takes much longer
Suicide Rates Among WW II Vets

No reports of spike in suicides among WW II vets


12.2 per 100,000 (even 5 years later)
Potential reasons



Country embraced them
Country did not go back into a depression
52/20 club kept them from needing to work right away




Allowed time to re-adjust mentally
GI Bill allowed them to gather on campuses
Environment for self-support created
Unit Cohesion re-created on campuses nationwide
Robert H. Stretch, "Follow-Up Studies of Veterans," in War Psychiatry (Falls Church, VA: U.S. Army
Office of the Surgeon General, 1995).
WWII Campus Population in Classroom

2.2M vets enrolled in ~1,800 colleges/universities
Average of 1,222/campus
1949 >45% of all college students were vets






The classroom was full of WW II veterans
Veterans get to class 15 minutes early
Discuss their experiences with other veterans
2.2M vets has 4 years of ‘group therapy’

When they graduated, they were done talking about
the war
Dr. Jennifer Adams, Penn State Univ. ASHE meeting Sacramento Nov 18 2000
Results of the First GI Bill Era

1956


11 years after final victory
2.2 million WWII veterans attended college









180,000 college educated engineers
200,000 college educated accountants
238,000 teachers
91,000 scientists
67,000 doctors
22,000 dentists
1 million other college educated individuals.
~1.7M college degrees
78% Graduation Rate
Milton Greenberg-report taken from the U.S. Department of State publication, Historians on America
% of Vets on Campus GI Bill Era

WW II


1951 -Total college enrollment - 2,101,962
1951 -Total vet enrollment -1,870,000



88.9% of campus enrollment were veterans
Campus veteran friendly environment established
 Suicide rate - 12 per 100,000
Korea


1956 -Total college enrollment - 2,918,212
1956 -Total vet enrollment -2,312,000 WWII & Korean vets


79.2% of campus enrollment were veterans
Somewhat campus vet friendly environment established
 Suicide rate - 17 per 100,000
This data compiled from the DOE enrollment data, 1947 to present
% of Vets on Campus GI Bill Era

Vietnam


1975-Total college enrollment-11,184,859
1951-Total vet enrollment-2,019,733
 18.0% of campus enrollment were veterans


Presently



2011-Total college enrollment-21,016,126
2011-Total vet enrollment- 962,780
4.6%% of campus enrollment are veterans


Suicide Rate - 19 per 100,000
Suicide Rate - 45 per 100,000
As the % of vets on campus drops, suicide rate
increases
This data compiled from the DOE enrollment data, 1947 to present
Factors in Suicide Rate Between WWI
and WW II Veterans

They used their GI Bill in very large numbers


Nearly 8.5M used their GI Bill benefits
When they went to campus, they were the campus


Didn’t talk about the war before, during or after class
Their education/degree gave them hope for their
future*

Rather than dwelling on their past

Better future means less reason for suicides
*Quote from Milton Greenburg, WW 2 veteran and expert on the GI Bill
What is the suicide rate for student
veterans today?



What is the suicide information on today’s student
veterans?
Does education still help lessen the need for
suicide being the only option?
Can the campuses help reduce the suicide rate?

Provide a better environment (VRCs) to increase
graduation among student veterans
David Rudd, the scientific director for the U.’s National
Center for Veterans Studies- Congressional Testimony
Suicides among military servicemen and women have
surged in recent years. Between 2002 and 2009, army
suicides more than doubled. "This problem doesn’t go away
once somebody separates from service," Rudd said. [See
After the Battle: 7 Health Problems Facing Veterans]
Rudd and colleagues examined survey results from a
nationally representative sample of 525 student veterans
whose average age was 26. Nearly all had been deployed to
the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan, and close to 60 percent said
they had experienced combat.
After the Battle: 7 Health Problems Facing Veterans
Nov 10, 2010 | 1:41 PM ET | Maureen Salamon, MyHealthNewsDaily Contributor
Rudd Study (continued)
46% said they had had suicidal thoughts at some point in
their lives, 20% reported having suicidal thoughts and a plan
to carry it out, about 10% said they thought of suicide very
often, 7.7% reported attempting suicide, and 3.8 percent
said a suicide attempt was either likely or very likely.
Eighty-two percent of those who attempted suicide also
struggled with significant post-traumatic stress disorder
symptoms, Rudd said.
After the Battle: 7 Health Problems Facing Veterans
Nov 10, 2010 | 1:41 PM ET | Maureen Salamon, MyHealthNewsDaily Contributor
Impacting the Student Veteran Suicide Rate

Is it higher for those not using their GI Bill?

How many total OEF/OIF veterans can we expect to
attempt suicide at least once?

What is the cost of counseling from the 1st attempt to
recovery?

Less than the cost of a good campus veteran program?
Impacting the Student Veteran Suicide Rate

Can a Campus Veteran Program reduce this 7.7%?


Federal dollars for VRCs and CVPs nationwide
Can it increase the number of veterans using their GI
Bill?

Bring more veterans to campus, reduce the suicide rate for all
OEF/OIF veterans
Projected Increase in GI Bill Usage Nationwide
with Federally Funded CVPs/VRCs
Present OEF/OIF
Total # of OEF/OIF
vets using their
service-members,
% of service-members,
GI Bill benefits veterans GI Bill eligible veterans using their GI Bill
962,780
2,436,395
39.5%
Target for % of servicemembers/veterans using their
GI Bill
Target - Total # of OEF/OIF servicemembers, veterans using their GI
Bill
50.0%
1,218,198
Cost data from “The Veterans Health Administration’s Treatment of PTSD and
Traumatic Brain Injury Among Recent Combat Veterans Feb. 2012 - a CBO report
Projected Student Veterans Who Will
Attempt Suicide & Associated Costs
Target OEF/OIF vets
using their GI Bill
benefits
% of student vets
who may attempt
suicide
Projected OEF/OIF vets using
their GI Bill who may
attempt suicide
7.70%
93,801
1,218,198
Counseling cost per Total counseling dollars on
vet to reduce
vets who've attempted
suicide risk
suicide
$15,000.00
$1,407,018,690
Cost data from “The Veterans Health Administration’s Treatment of PTSD and
Traumatic Brain Injury Among Recent Combat Veterans Feb. 2012 - a CBO report
How Campus Veteran Programs Can
Be Funded to Reduce Suicides
% of counseling costs
set aside for CVPs
Dollars allocated for
CVPs
Total campuses with
vet programs
Total dollars per
campus
30.0%
$422,105,607
1,250
$337,684
Reduction in
suicide
attempts
40.00%
New student # of student veterans
vet 1st
who will NOT
attempt %
attempt suicide
4.62%
37,520
Dollars NOT spent
(saved) by the VA on
recovery
$562,807,476
Lives Saved and Dollars Saved
Total Cost of
CVPs
$422,105,607
Total cost of
Total cost of suicide Total costs for counseling
counseling for those
reduction and
from 1st attempt to
remaining student
treatment program
recovery if suicide rate
veterans that attempt for student veterans among student veterans is
suicide for 1st time
not lowered
$844,211,214
$1,266,316,821
$1,407,018,690
Why a Campus Vet Program is Needed

Other campus programs for at risk students


Other campus programs for at risk students



Do not address suicide prevention or lowering
Increase the federal budget
A campus veteran program reduces suicides and
decreases the federal budget
Does this interest your campus?

Let J. Schupp know. He is working on a
proposal for congress now!
First Attempt Suicides Prevented in
the 9 County Region

22,053 total veterans

Goal to have 75% of region’s vets use their GI Bill


Present 1st attempt suicide rate among student
veterans - 7.7%

Expect 1,273 student veterans to attempt suicide
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16,540 student veterans
Create a good campus veteran program with a VRC reduce 1st attempt rate by 50%
Save 640 student vets from attempting suicide in
the region!
Total Impact of Campus Veteran Program
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Financial
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Human Impact
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Campus - $9.5M
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Homelessness prevented - 24
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Community - $16.2M
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Suicides NOT attempted - 640
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Total - $25.7M
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289 children impacted
All by having a $206,000 investment
Resource Requirements
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Personnel requirements
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Instructors
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Administrators
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May need to attend training seminar on campus procedures
VA counselors and psychologists
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May need to be briefed on student veterans
From the region - no cost to campus
Specialists in understanding veterans and veteran
environment
Campus recruiters
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J. Schupp can teach how to meet potential student veterans
Resource Requirements
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Resource requirements
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Need a VA Hospital/CBOC nearby campus - J. Schupp can
provide
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Adequate level of OEF/OIF veteran population in area - HAVE
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Program has to be self-sustaining
Need to have community involvement/support- OBTAIN
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Community leaders, local businesses, Chamber of Commerce,
County Commissioners, other elected officials
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Need to have financial support of Veteran Resource Center
Resource Requirements
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J. Schupp can provide a business plan outline to
all those campuses that request it
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Send me
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Your present enrollment data by chapter
The counties that you draw from for civilian enrollment
Advantages of VRC for Area Businesses
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Businesses want to hire veterans
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Financial
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No insurance needed - they have VA benefits
No ‘tuition reimbursement’ incentive needed
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Others
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They have GI Bill
Trained to work as a team
Can get up on time - some new college grads cannot
Are safety oriented
They don’t know where to find them
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At VRC - they can evaluate over a semester
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Vs. over an afternoon interview
Campus/Faith-Based Groups
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Many places of worship have concerns about
veterans and their families
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Many families of veterans/service-members attend
places of worship
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What is the level of information and interest at these
places of worship regarding veterans and their
education?
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How can you get your campus information to them?
Veterans’ Survey - Background
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Sampled the entire Episcopalian Diocese of Ohio for
their activities and level of interest in Veterans’
education
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31 out of 75 parishes responded – What did they
say?
How many members of your parish are currently in
the military?
How many members of the armed services does
your parish pray for each Sunday?
What degree of knowledge do you or your outreach
group have about military health issues like PTSD?
What degree of knowledge do you or your outreach
group have about educational benefits and
opportunities for veterans?
Are you or your outreach group familiar with the
Post 9/11 GI Bill, which began August 2009?
Do you or your outreach group think learning more
about veteran health and educational issues would
help your outreach for military members and
veterans?
Survey Analysis
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Some service-members are members of the parish
Parish prays for many service members at worship
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Few parishes are aware of the Post 9/11 GI Bill
Parishes more aware of health issues than educational
opportunities
Some parishes don’t know how to establish a veterans’
outreach ministry
Your campus can be the bridge between the veteran
community and the parishes
 But how do you begin to reach out to them?
Efficient Way To Reach This Demographic
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The Church Bulletin
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Reaches three generations of loved ones
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Parents, grandparents, spouses, children
It already has troop announcements in it
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Nothing else to do while waiting for service to start
Feel too guilty to throw it away….immediately
Just add the info. of the university program to it
It is trusted for its authenticity
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After all, it is in the ‘Church Bulletin’
How well does the business plan work?
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J. Schupp has provided business plans to over
50 campuses nationwide
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Both in person and by email

Many of these campuses have started VRCs
based upon this information
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Here are a few…..
Results from Hiram College
From: Rood, Donna B.
Sent: Wed 1/26/2011 2:21 PM
To: Faculty; Staff; Class of 2011; Class of 2012; Class of 2013; Class of 2014; Weekend College Students;
Graduate MAIS Students
Subject: Message from the President
To the campus community,
I am delighted to share additional good news with you this week. Our friend and former trustee Chuck
Miller has given $500,000 to Campus A through the estate of his parents, Paul C. and Kathryn W. Miller.
Chuck’s wishes are that we use the money to renovate Miller Dining Hall as the new home for student
support services and for our new efforts to recruit and provide support to military personnel returning to
civilian life. The funding will be used to complete the renovation of Miller and to create an endowment to
support programs related to the work done by Kathryn Craig, Frank Hemphill, and their colleagues in
Student Life.
In his letter to me announcing the gift, Chuck said “I am certain that our mother and father would be
pleased and delighted that their contribution to Campus A would be used for these activities. Both of them
were very strong believers in education and the opportunities that can result from learning for not only
the individual student’s career, but his or her family and the communities in which they live.”
This is a wonderful gift from Chuck and his wife, Judie, that enables us to advance the support we provide
to our student body.
Tom Chema
Terra Community College
New Veterans’ Center at Terra State Opens
For most of her career at Terra State Community
College, Joyce Spencer has been an advocate for
armed forces veterans. Now she has, well, an army of
supporters.
Thanks to a push from administration, the hard work of
maintenance and housekeeping employees, and
Spencer’s steady guidance, the new Terra State
Veterans’ Center opened on Nov. 15, 2012
It features four computer work stations, a conference
room with white board, and a lounge area with a flat
screen television. A coffee maker, microwave,
refrigerator and sink round out all the comforts of home
From: John Schupp [john.schupp@theservprogram.com]
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 5:59 AM
To: Millet, David
Subject: Re: Veteran's Mentoring Program
Results
from
Eastern
Washington
University
David, great talking with you today- Attached is a file of those that have returned and checked in with
their VA since 9/11 as of Oct 2010 (they update every october)
I have the numbers for Eastern Washington Counties in yellow, you have a total of 4,470 Post 9-11
veterans available. This data is from the Ombudsman's office of the VA in DC.
If you could have the attached spreadsheet filled in as best as you can, I can provide you with the cost
analysis and financial impact of what your campus has provided to the region so far, and project what it
could do in the futureKind Regards
J. Schupp
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Millet, David <dmillet@ewu.edu> wrote:
John – we participated in the Sept 15th webinar and would like to get some information. One of the slides
mentioned you could provide “the number of post 9-11 vets that have returned back home to your
county-aka- ‘your market’”
We are located in eastern Washington state in Spokane county and draw many of our students from
eastern Washington counties. Is it possible to get this date from you.
Thanks-Dave
M. David Millet
Director of Advancement, College of Business and Public Administration, College of Social and
Behavioral Sciences, Eastern Washington University, 102 Hargreaves Hall, Cheney, Wa 99004
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Millet, David <dmillet@ewu.edu> wrote:
John – I wanted to pass on a thank you and the below links to our opening of the EWU
Veterans Resource Center. Part of the success of this project had to do with the information
you provided last fall in “ROI” and from a purely business sense why we should do a better
job of recruiting, retaining and graduating veterans.
First link is to photos of the opening – although still a work in progress.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ewuphoto/sets/72157630519578742/with/7545949310/
http://www.ewu.edu/about/ewu-news/military-center.xml
So EWU is moving forward and we look forward to assisting many more veterans in the
future.
Best,Dave
M. David Millet
Director of Advancement, College of Business and Public Administration, College of Social and
Behavioral Sciences, Eastern Washington University, 102 Hargreaves Hall, Cheney, Wa 99004
Let J. Schupp help you help your local veterans!
We can save this generation and make it
the next “Great Generation”
john.schupp@theservprogram.com (440) 488 - 6416