Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3

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Reversed Time Order
Is the
association
causal?
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Where are we and where are we going?
1
How is this disease
distributed?
2
Is there
an association?
Hypotheses
What’s
my hypothesis?
3
Is the association
causal?
Did the exposure and
the disease turn up
together?
Why did the exposure
and the disease turn up
together?
4
What should be done
to prevent the disease?
5
Did the prevention
strategy work?
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Investigation 3-5
1.
Cause
2.
Chance
3.
Confounding
4.
Reversed Time Order
5.
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Which came first?
Egg
Chicken
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Scenario 1
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Scenario 2
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Scenario 3
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Which came first?
Egg
Chicken
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Epi Talk
Reversed Time Order
When the hypothesized time
order of an exposure and an
outcome is actually reversed
and the outcome really comes
before the exposure.
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Flow Diagram
DZ
E
DZ
Random
Assignment
Healthy
People
DZ
E
-
DZ
Time
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Flow Diagram
DZ
E
DZ
Healthy
People
DZ
E
-
DZ
Time
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Flow Diagram
E
DZ
E
-
E
DZ
E
Time
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Flow Diagram
E
-
E
DZ
DZ
Time
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Which came first? Exposure or Outcome?
Study Design: Trial
Study Design: Cohort Study
DZ
DZ
E
E
DZ
Random
Assignment
Healthy
People
DZ
Healthy
People
DZ
DZ
E
E
-
DZ
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-
DZ
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Time
Time
Study Design: Case-Control Study
Study Design: Cross-Sectional Study
E
E
-
DZ
E
E
-
E
DZ
DZ
E
DZ
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Time
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Time
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Epi Log Worksheet
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
1
Which came first? Exposure or Outcome? 1
1st
2nd
Study Design: Trial
Study Design: Cohort Study
DZ
DZ
E
E
DZ
DZ
Random
Assignment
Healthy
People
Healthy
People
DZ
DZ
E
E
-
-
DZ
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
DZ
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Time
3rd
Time
Study Design: Case-Control Study
4th
Study Design: Cross-Sectional Study
E
E
-
DZ
E
E
-
E
DZ
DZ
E
DZ
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Time
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Time
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Which came first?
Exposure
Outcome
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Scenario 4
Watching TV
No
Watching TV
Overweight
No
Overweight
Watching TV
Overweight
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Count, Divide, and Compare (CDC)
Is there an association?
Count
TV
Overweight
No
Overweight
Total
23
9
32
a b
7
23
32
or
Relative Risk
71.8%
=
c d
No
TV
Risks
15
22
7
22
or
2.3
31.8%
Compare
Divide
Did watching TV and being overweight turn up together?
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Time Order
Watching TV
No
Watching TV
Overweight
No
Overweight
Watching TV
Overweight
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Time Order
Watching TV
No
Watching TV
Overweight
No
Overweight
X
Watching TV
Overweight
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Time Order
Watching TV
No
Watching TV
Overweight
No
Overweight
X
Watching TV
Overweight
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Which came first?
Watching TV
Overweight
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Watching TV
Scenario
causes 5weight gain.
Cigarette
Watching TV
Smoking
No
No
Cigarette
Watching TV
Smoking
Overweight
Depression
No
Overweight
Depression
Cigarette
Watching TV
Smoking
Depression
Overweight
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Count, Divide, and Compare (CDC)
Is there an association?
Count
Cigarette
Smoking
Depression
No
Depression
Total
38
83
121
a b
No
Cigarette
Smoking
c d
59
196
255
Risks
38
121
59
255
or
Relative Risk
31.4%
=
or
1.4
23.1%
Compare
Divide
Did cigarette smoking and depression turn up together?
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Watching TV
Time
causes
Order
weight gain.
Cigarette
Watching TV
Smoking
No
No
Cigarette
Watching TV
Smoking
Overweight
Depression
No
Overweight
Depression
Cigarette
Watching TV
Smoking
Depression
Overweight
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Time Order
Cigarette
Watching TV
Smoking
No
No
Cigarette
Watching TV
Smoking
Overweight
Depression
No
Overweight
Depression
X
Cigarette
Watching TV
Smoking
Depression
Overweight
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Time Order
Cigarette
Watching TV
Smoking
No
No
Cigarette
Watching TV
Smoking
Overweight
Depression
No
Overweight
Depression
X
Cigarette
Watching TV
Smoking
Depression
Overweight
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Which came first?
Cigarette
Smoking
Depression
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Scenario 6
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Violent Video Games
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Violent Video Games
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Violent Video Games
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Violent Video Games
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Violent Video Games
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Violent Video Games Can Increase Aggression
Violent
Video
Games
No Violent
Video
Games
Aggression
No
Aggression
Violent
Video Games
Aggression
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Violent Video Games Can Increase Aggression
Violent
Video
Games
No Violent
Video
Games
Aggression
x
Violent
Video Games
No
Aggression
Aggression
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Violent Video Games Can Increase Aggression
Violent
Video
Games
No Violent
Video
Games
Aggression
x
Violent
Video Games
No
Aggression
Aggression
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Which came first?
Violent Video
Games
Aggression
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
In the News
Municipalities Can Limit Access to Violent Video Games
4 / 29 / 2002
A federal judge ruled that local governments should have the authority to
limit children's access to violent video games, the Associated Press
reported April 24.
The ruling was made in a case brought by a video-game industry group
against a St. Louis (Mo.) County ordinance.
The ordinance, passed in 2000, regulates access to arcade and home video
games. It requires children under 17 to have parental consent before they
can purchase or play violent or sexually explicit games.
Implementation of the ordinance was suspended until July 1 after the
Interactive Digital Software Association sued the county.
In making his ruling, Senior U.S. District Judge Stephen Limbaugh
determined that the video games are not constitutionally protected forms
of speech.
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Which came first?
Exposure
No
Exposure
Outcome
No
Outcome
Exposure
?
Outcome
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Epi Log Worksheet
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2
Reversed Time Order
It is possible that
watch TV
people who __________
be overweight
are more likely to ____________.
But it is also possible that
overweight
people who are __________
watch TV
are more likely to __________.
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
2
Epi Teams
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Time Order
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Epi Log Worksheet
3-6
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Time Order
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Explanations for Finding an Association
Could the
association have
been found because
of reversed time
order?
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Which came first? Exposure or Outcome?
Study Design: Trial
Study Design: Cohort Study
DZ
DZ
E
E
DZ
Random
Assignment
Healthy
People
DZ
Healthy
People
DZ
DZ
E
E
-
DZ
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-
DZ
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Time
Time
Study Design: Case-Control Study
Study Design: Cross-Sectional Study
E
E
-
DZ
E
E
-
E
DZ
DZ
E
DZ
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Time
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Time
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Explanations for Finding an Association
1. Cause
2. Chance
3. Confounding
4. Reversed Time Order
5.
Study Links Eating M&M’s
To Decreased Risk of Flu
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
Reversed Time Order
Investigation
3-5
has ended.
Detectives in the Classroom – Investigation 3-5: Reversed Time Order
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