CHEMICAL PROCESSING
OCTOBER 2012
CONFIRMED MINUTES
CONFIRMED MINUTES
OCTOBER, 22-24, 2012
OMNI WILLIAM PENN HOTEL
PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA USA
These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the
Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.
MONDAY, 22-OCT-12 to THURSDAY, 25-OCT-12
1.0
OPENING COMMENTS
The CHEMICAL PROCESSING (CP) TASK GROUP was called to order at 8:00 a.m., 22-Oct-12
Code of Ethics/Antitrust and Meeting Conduct presentations were reviewed.
It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion of the meeting.
A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:
The Task Group voted to approve those Auditors attending the on-site training to allow them to do
Chem Mill Audits.
The Auditors approved were:

Mike Gullison


Pete Crosby
James Avery

Philip Nash
Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)
* Hal
* Cary
Malik
Abel
Baker
Boutoba
Raytheon Co.
The Boeing Company
Eurocopter
Mike
* David
* Robert
* Michael
* Terry
Chris
* Karyn
* Peter
* Robert
* Aleck
* Laurent
* Alan
* Gregory
Doug
Larry
Tara
* Gerald W.
Aaron
* John
Breweer
Burke
Cashman
Coleman
Curtland
Davison
Deming
Droste
Faticanti
Featherston
Geerts
Gilbert
Haataja
Hahn
Hamanishi
Harris
Harvey
Jacobson
Koenig
Spirit AeroSystems
BAE Systems
Parker Aerospace Group
The Boeing Company
Ball Aerospace & Technologies
Spirit AeroSystems
Goodrich (UTAS)
Airbus
Textron Systems
Bell Helicopter Textron
SONACA
Cessna Aircraft Company
Bell Helicopter Textron
Gulfstream Aerospace
The Boeing Company
UTC Aerospace Systems
Triumph Group
Goodrich (UTAS)
The Boeing Company
Vice Chairperson

* Serge
MarcAndré
* Susan
* Mihaela
* Nick
*
*
*
Raj
Jerker
James
Luis Gustavo
Carl
* Jerry
* Richard
* Paul
*
*
Mariusz
Steven
Michael
Dennis
* Zia
* Shawn
* Deborah
Michael
Michael
* Gene
Miao
Dana
Labbé
Lefebvre
Lewis
Lupu
Magnapera
Nagarajan
Nordh
O'Shea
Pacheco
Roche
Satchwell
Shain
Slater
Stanczyk
Starr
Stolze
Tillemans
Usmani
Vierthaler
Vogel
Vosatka
Vosatka
Wallace
Wang
Westfall
Héroux-Devtek Inc.
Héroux-Devtek Inc.
Lockheed Martin Corporation
SAFRAN Group
BAE Systems
Gulfstream Aerospace
GKN Aerospace
GE Aviation
Embraer
UTC Aerospace
Rolls-Royce PLC
Rockwell Collins Inc.
Spirit AeroSystems
Triumph Group
Rockwell Collins Inc.
Doug
Sergey
Wong
Yesilevich
GE Aviation
UTC Aerospace Systems
Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)
CHEMICAL PROCESSING
OCTOBER 2012
CONFIRMED MINUTES
Hawker Beechcraft Corporation
Lockheed Martin Corporation
Honeywell Aerospace
Northrop Grumman Corporation
Spirit AeroSystems
BAE Systems Military & Air Information
Rockwell Collins Inc.
Triumph Fabrications – Ft. Worth
COMAC
Goodrich Corporation
Chairperson
Mark
Amy
Airey
Andersen
Robert Stuart plc
Aerospace/Defense Coatings
Mark
Leandro
Tomohiko
* Daniel
Bruce
Fred
* Phillip
Tim
* Lee
Anthony
Apairico
Ashikaga
Backus
Baloga
Binda
Bratton
Brooks
Bruce
Precision Components International Inc.
Advanced Coating Technique
Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd.
Har-Conn Chrome Co.
Reilly Finishing Technologies
Ozark Mountain Technologies LLC
Hohman Plating & Mfg Inc.
M7 Aerospace
Robert Stuart plc
* Larry
Eric
* John
* Stephane
Artoro
Jim
Neil
Peter
* Steve
Nathalie
* Jim
Joan
* Robert
Suthichar
Bob
Carlson
Carlson
Carpenter
Chaumeil
Chovez
Coskrew
Cowan
Cox
Crest
Crozat-Vigier
Cummings
Curfman
Custer
Danchaiviraj
Denny
X-R-I Testing
Esterline Hytek Finishes
U.S. Chrome Corp.
Galion
Tighitco Latinoamerica
CIL Metal Finishing
PRI - Auditor
Central Metal Finishing Inc.
Stabile Plating
SKF Aerospace France
Metal Finishing Company
FN Manufacturing LLC
AAA Plating & Inspection Inc.
Primus International Bangkok Ltd.
Honeywell Aerospace

* Robert
* Jim
Bruce
Bruce
Ralph
Kurt
David
* William
* Ben
Bill
Gary
* Ronald
* Sarah
Ann
Wayne
Mike
Alexander
Hirohiko
Clay
* Jonathan
* Bill
* Eric
James
Jeff
Christopher
Richard
Amanda
Cindy
* Keven
* Jeff
Kaycee
Pasquale
* Rosa
Jeremy
Abdillah
Zulzaidan
Laura
* Simone
Subramanya
* Abdul
Thomas
* Mike
* Gregory
Kim
Dennis
* Jim
Eric
* Cindy
Gardiner
* Guy
Victor
* Tammi
Nick
* David
Ken
Logan
Martimucci
Martimucci
Martin
Miller
Mohamed
Mohd Razali
Moyer
Murphy-
Fickenworth
Naglapura
Nathani
Newton
Noettl
Penny
Porter
Reidy
Ringer
Robinson
Roth
Rynne
Saenz
Salazar
Schubert
Schumacher
Serbousek
Shouse
Denton
Denton
Dobbins
Dobbins
Emmatt
Enderle
Eshleman
Ferris
Flores
Fowler
Fox
Franklin
Fuqua
Gill
Gourdeau
Guthmiller
Hammond
Hattori
Havis
Hebben
Heeter
Jacklin
Jankowski
Jones
Joy
King
Kirchner
Klinger
Kudelka
CHEMICAL PROCESSING
OCTOBER 2012
B-D Industries Inc.
B-D Industries Inc.
Aetna Plating Company
Aetna Plating Company
Reilly Finishing Technologies
CONFIRMED MINUTES
Aircraft X-Ray Laboratories Inc.
The Young Engineers
TECHMETALS Inc.
Applied Aerospace Structures Corp.
ATC
Anodyne Inc.
ChemResearch Co. Inc.
Kearfott Corp. - Motion Systems Division
Lord Corporation
Cobham Antenna Systems
Applied Aerospace Structures Corp.
Bristol Aerospace LTD
Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd.
Manufacturers Testing Lab
Ducommun AeroStructures Gardena
Skills Inc.
F.M. Callahan & Sons Inc.
Precise Machining & Mfg.
Alloy Processing Inc.
Orbit Industries, Inc.
New Hampshire Ball Bearings Inc.
Beyond Relations, LLC
Embee Incorporated
Westfield Electroplating Co.
Saporito Finishing Company
Nassau Chrome Plating Inc.
Nassau Chrome Plating Inc.
Superior Plating Co.
Precise Machining & Mfg.
Lord Corporation
Upeca Aerotech Sdn. Bhd
Alcoa Howmet Dover Casting
Chrome Plus International
S. S. White Technologies, Inc.
Hi-Tech Metal Finishing
Aircraft X-Ray Laboratories, Inc.
Magnetic Inspection Laboratory Inc.
Embee Incorporated
Poly-Metal Finishing Inc.
CIL Metal Finishing
Tech Met
Cobham Antenna Systems
Team Industrial Services TCM Division
Chem Processing, Inc.
Hi-Tech Metal Finishing
OMNI Metal Finishing, Inc.
LMI Finishing, Inc.
Hohman Plating & Mfg Inc.
Olympic Scientific Inc.
Lord Corporation

* Stephen
* Greg
Frank
* Vitorio
Mliton
* Steve
Bill
Al
* Yoshiomi
Kian Teck
Mitch
Simacek
Smotherman Jr
Sorenz
Stana
Stevenson
Stone
Strong
Strubilla
Sukesada
Tan
Tanner
CHEMICAL PROCESSING
OCTOBER 2012
CONFIRMED MINUTES
Hytek Finishes Company
Ozark Mountain Technologies LLC
Hi-Tech Metal Finishing
Avcorp Industries Inc.
Anoplate Corp.
Saporito Finishing Company
Epner Technology
Reilly Finishing Technologies
Asahi Kinzoku Kogyo Inc.
Singapore Aero Engine Services Private Limited
Embee Incorporated
* James
Kimberly
Jerry
J. Kelli
Staff Present
Nigel
Tuminello
Vecchione
Wahlin
Yaneris
Cook
William
Robert
Michael
Calvert
Nixon
Graham
2.0 DELEGATION OVERSIGHT – CLOSED
Tech Met
New Hampshire Ball Bearings Inc.
AAA Plating & Inspection Inc.
Aerospace Defense Coating
The delegation status of Mike Graham, Nigel Cook, William Calvert, Bill Dumas and Bob Lizewski were reviewed. All delegated staff engineers met the requirements for maintaining delegation and the Task Group agreed to maintain their delegation status.
Robert Nixon has recently joined PRI as a Staff Engineer and is now reviewing audits in the nondelegated status. Robert has been actively involved with Nadcap for 10 years before joining PRI.
3.0 NUCAP – CLOSED
The status of scope exceptions on the eAuditNet system was reviewed. All scope exceptions were either complete, under internal review, or awaiting the ballot on AC7108/2
4.0
PROFICIENCY EXAMS – CLOSED
The proficiency exams were reviewed and a number of amendments identified.
ACTION ITEM: Will Calvert to amend the auditor exams and then only the amendments to be reviewed by a WebEx meeting of subscriber voting members. (Due Date: 30-Nov-12)
ACTION ITEM: Once revised/updated, William Calvert to arrange for current auditors to take exams and tabulate data for review by the Task Group Primes in October 2012. (Due Date: 31-
Jan-13)
5.0
AUDITOR OVERSIGHT – CLOSED
The Nadcap Management Council (NMC) Auditor Consistency Team proposed development and approval of a new NOP012 “ Auditor Consistency ” to establish a baseline system to monitor/control this process and to provide continual improvement from the NMC Auditor Consistency Team was reviewed.

6.0
CHEMICAL PROCESSING
OCTOBER 2012
CONFIRMED MINUTES
The observation audit program is not on schedule. To provide a more focused resource, Robert
Nixon will be replacing Mike Graham as the PRI staff member running this program.
ACTION ITEM: Robert Nixon to arrange completion of the targeted observation audits and to remind observers to complete the additional feedback form (Due Date: 22-Feb-13)
OCTOBER 2012 AUDITOR CONFERENCE – CLOSED
Auditor Conference: The feedback from this year’s commodity specific auditor conference was reviewed. The feedback was very positive and a number of subjects for the next conference were identified. The scenario type delivery method was preferred when suitable for the subject matter.
Teams were identified for each of the subjects and are to provide a straw man of the training content at the February 2013 meeting.
Members- Leads(L),
Staff Engineer (SE)
New paint systems
Prime specific presentation
AC7108/6 - Cleanliness Verification
New anodize techniques, e.g. BSA, TSA.
Pyrometry (including Prime requirements)
Masking technology
Electroless plating including masking issues
Zia Usmani (L)
Alan Gilbert
Mike Graham (SE)
John Koenig (L)
Bob Cashman
Mike Stolze
Will Calvert (SE)
Jim O'Shea(L)
Debbie Vogel
Vitorio Stana
Jim Ringer
Nigel Cook (SE)
Jerry Satchwell(L)
Karyn Deming
Jim Cumming
Mike Noettl
Tammy Shubert
Stephan Simacek
Neil Cowan
Will Calvert (SE)
Mike Coleman(L)
Jonathan Hebben
Vitorio Stana
Robert Nixon (SE)
Hal Abel (L)
Mike Noettl
Shawn Vierthaler
Jonathon Hebben
Keven Kedelka
Robert Nixon (SE)
Bob Cashman(L)
Steve Starr
Keven Kedelka
Dan Backus
Robert Nixon (SE)

7.0
CONFIRMED MINUTES
Water Break Free Exception: Robert Nixon presented information on Water Break Free
Exceptions.
CHEMICAL PROCESSING
OCTOBER 2012
The Task Group feels that more work is needed to better define exceptions. A Subteam consisting of Jim Ringer (L), Keven Kedelka, John Koenig, and Robert Nixon (SE) was established.
ACTION ITEM: Jim Ringer to lead the Subteam regarding alternatives to water break free inspection as a method of cleanliness verification and provide alternative wording for relevant checklist paragraphs and compliance acceptance guidance. (DUE DATE: 20-Feb-13)
RESOLUTION BY TASK GROUP ISSUES – CLOSED
Audit 145742 – Supplier appealed loss of merit.
The Supplier presented reason that they believe that there was no product impact and thus should not have Merit withheld. After discussion, the Task Group felt that the Supplier probably did not have Product Impact but failed to make a solid case. The Supplier will be required to provide additional information. If the required information shows no “Product Impact” then Merit will be granted.
ACTION ITEM: Will Calvert to follow up with the Supplier and the Primes to ensure that Merit is granted if approved by the listed Primes (Due Date: 30-Nov-12)
Audit 147397 - Supplier contested NCR #4- Audit took place late September.
The NCR: Requirement: MIL-DTL-5541, 3.6.1a, no more than 5 isolated spots or pits, none larger than 0.031 inch in diameter, per test specimen. This is in regards to the required 168 hour salt fog requirement per ASTM B117.
The Task Group reviewed the NCR and the supplier’s request to void the NCR. It was felt that the characteristics of the corrosion pits were not consistent with being kept in a controlled storage facility and more information was required.
The Task Group voted to uphold the NCR to allow for further investigation.
MIL-A-8625 - Taber Testing
Mil-A-8625 and some Prime specifications define the wheel rotation speed as 70 rpm. ASTM
D4060 defines the wheel rotation speed as 72±2 rpm. The equipment runs at 72 rpm when on a 60
Hz system and 60 rpm when on a 50 Hz system – the speed cannot be adjusted.
The Task Group agreed this is an awareness issue and a supplier is responsible to either meet the specification or request a deviation from their customer.
Tank Temperature
AC7108 para 5.3.4 states, “ Are tanks with defined temperature ranges operating within the posted range?
” and 5.3.5 states, “ Is there a system to ensure tanks with defined operating temperature ranges are maintained within the defined temperature range and that the recording system is sufficient to demonstrate compliance to requirements?
”. The finding stated, “ Deoxidizer (Tank #6) was labeled and internal procedures (I.O.09.05.01) identified that a temperature range of 18 - 30 degree C was required. On AC7108E Job # 2 (chromic acid anodizing to AIPS 02-01-001) the tank was at 31.8 degree C. This was identified and recorded by the operator and quality allowed processing to continue as the customer specification (AIPS 02-01-001) has no temperature limits for this solution.
”

CHEMICAL PROCESSING
OCTOBER 2012
CONFIRMED MINUTES
The Task Group agreed that the NCR was valid as the process conditions exceeded the defined range and the job is no longer represented by the process control tests.
AC7108/5
A request was received to include copper alloys as a Material Group for Chemical Milling. The
AC7108/5 scope presently includes; Aluminum, Nickel & Cobalt Alloys, Steels, and Titanium Alloys.
The information provided did not provide sufficient detail to determine if it was chemical milling of copper alloy parts or processing of circuit boards. If it was processing of circuit boards then this needs to be covered by the Electronics group.
ASTM A967 Passivation
The Task Group agreed that the specification is not clear on the sampling requirements and a processor should seek clarification as part of their contract review process.
ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to issue an Auditor Advisory regarding the sampling requirements of
ASTM A967. (DUE DATE: 30-Nov-12)
Recording of operator controlled variables
A supplier is painting a component; the paint system requires 2 coats of primer and 2 coats of topcoat. The geometry of the component requires the supplier to paint one side and then the second side. The data to be recorded to meet the checklist requirement is extensive. This issue was taken to the open meeting and a sub team comprising of Mike Coleman (L), Bill Heeter, Alan
Gilbert, Keven Kudelka, Jonathan Hebben, Zia Usmani and Nigel Cook (SE) was set up to review the recording of all process parameters.
ACTION ITEM: Mike Coleman and sub-team to create a proposal regarding the recording of all process parameters. (DUE DATE: 20-Feb-13)
Appeals Committee
The standing appeals committee was reviewed and some new members appointed. The committee now consists of: Hal Abel (L), Susan Lewis, John Koenig, Serge Labbe, Jim Chan, Mike Coleman, and Aleck Featherston. (Staff support provided by Staff Engineer responsible for the affected audit)
The Chair or Vice-Chair need to support any appeal against audit failure.
Prime Table 1
The current Prime Table 1s posted on eAuditNet are possibly outdated (2004 to 2010). It was agreed that these Table 1s are to be removed from eAuditNet and replaced when updated.
The issue was raised in the open meeting and only two of the suppliers present had actually used them.
ACTION ITEM: Robert Nixon to email the Prime Table1s to the Prime representative for update as required and to remove the present Table1s from eAuditNet. (DUE DATE: 30-Nov-12)

CHEMICAL PROCESSING
OCTOBER 2012
CONFIRMED MINUTES
8.0
OPENING COMMENTS – OPEN
The Chemical Processing Task Group (CPTG) was called to order at 9:00AM and the CPTG Vision and Code of Ethics video and presentations were reviewed.
Introductions took place and quorum was established
Reviewed Minutes from last meeting
Motion made by Hal Abel and second by Jim Cummings to accept the Minutes
Motion Passed.
The meeting agenda was reviewed.
The current Rolling Action Item List (RAIL) was reviewed and updated.
9.0 NEW VOTING MEMBER APPROVAL & COMPLIANCE WITH VOTING REQUIREMENTS –
OPEN
Requests to become a voting member were received from:
Title First Name Surname Company Voting
Member
Type
Meetings
Attended
Abdillah
Malik
Mohamad
Boutoba
Lord Corp
Eurocopter (*1)
SVM
UVM
Oct 10
Jun 12
Feb 12
Oct 12
Gary Fox Anodyne Inc SVM Feb 12 Oct 12
Note: *1 – Malik is replacing Nathalie Le Pottier as the UVM for Eurocopter. Nathalie will become the ALT/UVM.
Motion made by Susan Lewis and seconded by Jim Cummings to approve the new voting members.
Motion Passed
Gene Wallace is replacing Robert Nixon as the UVM for Triumph; Gene is presently an ALT/UVM.
ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to process completed mfrm01s and provide confirmation email to the new voting members. (DUE DATE: 07-Nov-12)
The compliance with attendance and voting requirements spreadsheet was reviewed. Several members had not met the requirements for either meeting attendance or response to letter ballots.
Emails were sent to these voting members reminding them of the requirements and asking for commitment to meet the requirements. Positive responses were received from all but two members and the Task Group Chair has agreed to maintain their voting rights. The two members from which a response has not been received will be chased up after the meeting.
10.0 NEW SUPPLIER ORIENTATION – OPEN
Mike Noettl gave a presentation from the Supplier Support Committee on the mentoring program.
11.0
FRENCH TRANSLATION OF CHECKLISTS – OPEN
An update was given on the status of the French Translation of the Checklists and Audit Handbook
ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to resend emails to relevant parties and then confirm voting privileges with the Task Group Chair. (Due Date: 07-Nov-12) o AC7108 Rev E - August, 2012

o AC7108 Rev F o Audit handbook
- o AC7108/1 Rev B o AC7108/2 Rev B
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- o AC7108/3, /4, /5, /6, /7 -
-
September, 2012
Approved and to be posted.
Completed and posted
CHEMICAL PROCESSING
OCTOBER 2012
CONFIRMED MINUTES
Not being translated, not sufficient demand.
The February 2012 Handbook is approved and posted.
12.0
NMC METRICS, REGIONAL AUDITOR CAPACITY & OBSERVATION AUDITS – OPEN
The Task Group metrics were reviewed and all items were green apart from auditor capacity and merit. Although a number of new auditors have been contracted a number of these are still in training and are not therefore included in the capacity calculation. It is expected that this item will return to green before the end of the year, but there are still some issues with regard to capacity in the Asia region.
Except for a minor setback in May, the Supplier Merit has increased towards the 80% goal.
13.0 CREATE NMC REPORT OUT – OPEN
The NMC report was created.
14.0 CHEMICAL PROCESS AUDIT HANDBOOK APPROVAL – OPEN
The Chemical Process Audit Handbook was reviewed and amended.
Motion by John Koenig and seconded by Hal Abel to approve the revised Chemical Process
Handbook.
Motion Passed
ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to send the amended Audit Handbook to Joyce Benkart for posting on eAuditNet. (Due Date: 07-Nov-12)
15.0
COMMENT RESOLUTION AC7108/2 Rev C – OPEN
The AC7108/2 Rev C document has not yet been balloted since it had to wait for approval of the changes to AC7108 Rev F. The sub-team met on 01-Oct-12 and made a number of amendments, these amendments were presented for review by the Task Group.
ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to ballot AC7108/2 Rev C. (DUE DATE: 16-Nov-12)
16.0
CHEMICAL PROCESS AUDITOR INTERVIEW QUESTIONS/EXAM – OPEN
The questionnaire for the pre-interview exam was reviewed and amended.
ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to add questions from the auditor proficiency tests to replace the ones deleted from the pre-interview exam and sends the amended document to Jennifer Eckels. (DUE
DATE: 30-Nov-12).
17.0
DISCOVERY SESSION – OPEN
Eric Jacklin gave a talk on the Discovery Session being planned for Dallas by the Supplier Support
Committee. (See Supplier Support Committee meeting minutes for details)
18.0
CHECKLIST STRATEGIC PLAN – OPEN
Jerry Satchwell gave an update of the status of actions from the Checklist Strategic Plan.

CHEMICAL PROCESSING
OCTOBER 2012
CONFIRMED MINUTES
New Checklists
The proposed new AC7108 and AC7108/X (Anodize) checklists were briefly reviewed. The checklists are available on eAuditNet for review by Task Group members. Public
Documents>Chemical Processing>Meeting Presentations>October 2012 Task Group Meetings
ACTION ITEM: All Members to review the proposed new AC7108 and AC7108/X (Anodize) checklists and provide comments to Nigel Cook. (DUE DATE: 30-Nov-12)
ACTION ITEM: Jerry Satchwell to compile comments and provide feedback at the next meeting.
(DUE DATE: 20-Feb-13)
Process Grouping
The Subteam discussed by email communication and decided they could not reduce the number of process groups from the previously identified number of 14. There was also the situation where the
CP/NDT Etch Subteam is proposing to make Etch potentially consist of 4 processes (Pre-Penetrant
Etch, Nital Etch, Blue Etch Anodize, and Other Macro-Etch).
The Heat Treat group was a pproached regarding the terminology “long” and “short” job audits:

A long job audit is a complete heat treatment (Solution Treat and Age)

A short job audit is just one heat treatment step (Solution Treat only)
The Subteam felt this process could not be applied to chemical process job audits.
ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to amend the new AC7108 base checklist to include the process groupings and to include stripping of plating within the stripping group. (DUE DATE: 30-NOV-12 )
Jerry Satchwell is to include the review of sfrm16, Nadcap Audit Grading Criteria , as part of the checklist strategy. This was a request from the CP-SAT team.
19.0
CP/Nondestructive Testing (NDT) AC7108/2 PROPOSAL – OPEN
The latest CP/NDT business plan for etching was presented to the Task Group. Data is to be collected on the number of audits affected and the business plan will then be presented to the NMC for review.
20.0
AC7108/1 AUDIT HANDBOOK AMENDMENTS – OPEN
These were discussed as part of item 13.
21.0
COMMENT RESOLUTION AC7108/3, /4 & /6 – OPEN
All comments had been reviewed and dispositioned. There was one comment regarding maintaining competence that is to be considered for future ballots of all applicable checklists.
ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to review present wording in all checklists with regard to operator competence and ensure the requirement clearly addresses both assessment and maintenance of competence. (DUE DATE: 31-Dec-12)

CHEMICAL PROCESSING
OCTOBER 2012
CONFIRMED MINUTES
22.0 REPORT OUTS: NMC (MICHAUD), SSC (JACKLIN), P&O/CLOSED, STEERING (LEWIS),
CP-SAT (CUMMINGS) – OPEN
Reports were given from each of the relevant committees.

Eric Jacklin gave update on the NMC and the Supplier Support Committee (SSC).

Susan Lewis gave update on the Steering Committee. The Steering Committee will be reviewing its membership and mission.

Jim Cummings gave a summary of the CP-SAT Meeting. (See CP-SAT Minutes).
Concern that multiple small scope checklists may result in reduced attendance due to limited interest, and an overall increase in Task Group meeting time being required to ballot the additional documents and resolve the comments.

Closed Meeting Report given by Jerry Satchwell.
23.0 REACH – OPEN
Presentations on aspects of the REACH regulations were given by Paul Hogben of the Boeing
Company, Jeffery Hannapel of the Policy Group and Keith Legg of Rowan Technology Group. The presentations were very informative and both the presenters and organizers (John Koenig, Jerry
Wahlin) were thanked.
ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to post the presentations in eAuditNet. (DUE DATE: 16-Nov-12)
24.0
INTERNATIONAL PROCESS SPECIFICATIONS/STANDARDS – OPEN
The survey completed by Tim Double of SAE did not identify a significant number of non-US specifications for inclusion in the Chemical Process QML. It was felt that inclusion of non-US specifications would be a benefit to the group and further work should be done.
ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to send an email to European Prime and Supplier representatives requesting information (specification number and title) on European consensus aerospace specifications. (DUE DATE: 31-Jan-12)
25.0
CHEMICAL PROCESS TASK GROUP SEMINAR – OPEN
The seminar in February 2013 is to cover the review of checklist requirements, e.g. similar to the
AC7108 Rev E presentation.
ACTION ITEM: Will Calvert to create seminar presentation for the February 2012 meeting. (DUE
DATE: 31-Jan-13)
A presentation for later meetings could include recording of process parameters (e.g. operator controlled variables). This will be subject to the proposal from the process parameter sub-team and its implementation.
26.0
OTHER BUSINESS – OPEN
New Auditor Orientation
A presentation was given on the new auditor proficiency program. This program is to ensure all auditors have minimum baseline knowledge on Nadcap, auditing skills and NCR writing.
3M 250 Tape

CHEMICAL PROCESSING
OCTOBER 2012
CONFIRMED MINUTES
3Ms have changed the manufacturing facility and makeup of its 250 tape. The new tape has a different backing and adhesive and tests have shown a significant increase in adhesive strength.
Implementation of AMS 2750 Rev E
The CP Task Group agreed to adopt the same implementation date as the Heat Treatment Task
Group.
The checklist questions may need to be modified based on this new revision. A Subteam of
Karyn Deming (L), Mike Coleman, Dave Serbousek, Gene Wallace, Alan Gilbert, Stephan
Chaumeil was formed to investigate this.
ACTION ITEM: Robert Nixon to support Subteam in determining whether the Checklist questions will need to be updated based on the new revision of AMS 2750 Rev E. (DUE DATE: 20-Feb-13)
ACTION ITEM: Robert Nixon to issue an auditor advisory identifying the implementation date of
AMS 2750 Rev E. (DUE DATE: 30-Nov-12)
Technical Datasheets
Will Calvert gave a presentation on behalf of the Technical Data Sheets (TDS) Subteam. None of the proposed items were found acceptable and the team was asked to obtain more information and return with a new proposal in February 2013.
ACTION ITEM: Will Calvert to support Subteam (including Karyn Deming) in reviewing additional information and proposing options on the use of processing parameters identified within TDS.
(DUE DATE: 20-Feb-13)
AC7108 Section 5.15
The Task Group agreed that this Section only applied if cleaning/etching of titanium was done as a standalone process.
ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to include compliance guidance in the CP Audit Handbook. (DUE
DATE: 20-Feb-13)
27.0 DEVELOP AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY 2013 TASK GROUP MEETING – OPEN
Additional items for the February 2013 meeting were identified. Other items of interest should be emailed to Nigel Cook.

REACH (Jerry Satchwell, Zia Usmani)

Auditor Conference

Viscosity Testing and Zahn Cups, EZ and Signature. (Hal Abel, Jeff Jones)
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Review of recent Auditor Advisories (PRI Staff)
ADJOURNMENT – Meeting was adjourned at 12:50 p.m.
Minutes Prepared by: William Calvert wcalvert@sae.org
and Nigel Cook nigel.cook@pri-europe.org.uk
Chemical Process Appeals Committee:

Hal Abel – Lead (Raytheon)

Susan Lewis (Lockheed Martin)

John Koenig (Boeing)

Serge Labbe (Heroux Devtek)

Jim Chan (Honeywell)

CHEMICAL PROCESSING
OCTOBER 2012
CONFIRMED MINUTES

Mike Coleman (Boeing)

Aleck Featherston (Bell Helicopter)
Chemical Processing Steering Committee:

Susan Lewis – Lead (Lockheed-Martin)

Mike Stolze (Northrop Grumman)

James Chan (Honeywell)

David Michaud (Fountain Plating)- CPTG Voting representative to the NMC and Task Group
Supplier Voting Member

James Cummings (Metal Finishing Company)- CPTG Supplier Voting Member and CP-SAT Chair

Michael Graham- PRI Staff support for the CPTG

Nigel Cook –Alternate PRI Staff Support
CP Audit Handbook
20-Feb -13
AC7108/2 checklist
16-Nov-12