Planning for Postgraduate Study Introduction The Path to Postgraduate Study Research Postgrads at UL Postgraduate Study Overseas Funding for Postgraduate Study Q&A Some Statistics PGs in Ireland = approx 25% of student population 18.3% of total UL students are postgrads Graduated 133 research postgrads 2004 1200 taught postgrad programmes 808 research postgrads 45% funded 52 Masters and 67 PhDs 26% of UL graduates of 2004 in further study Why Postgraduate Study? What are your goals? Career objectives / plans Employment prospects Interest in the academic area / academia Professional requirement Convert to a new area Uncertainty/recommendation of others Key issues you need to think about… Sufficient motivation Academic ability, suitability and your needs Time and money Types of Postgraduate Courses Taught versus Research degrees Taught Grad Diplomas/Masters degrees Full-time/part-time/bloc release Conversion courses Development of an academic specialism Entry requirements vary (2.2 Hons. plus) Research degrees Entry requirements: usually 1st & 2nd Class Hons. degrees Full-time and part-time May include some taught elements (methodology, etc) Research proposal and plan Masters: 1-3 years (60,000 words); PhD: 3-5 years (100,000) Timing and Location When to study After your first degree … easiest time After a break After working full-time While still working full or part-time Where to study In Ireland: Limerick or elsewhere Overseas: planning and timeframe Advantages/disadvantages of moving institution Personal/professional considerations Evaluate what is on offer Type of course Number of places Selection criteria Closing date Employment record Fees and finance Size of Department Research interests Type of supervision Facilities Inside story Publishing rights Research Postgrads at UL 70+ taught PG Programmes Research Masters / PhD Graduate Diplomas / Masters Masters All Colleges Look at College / Department Web sites Research your options … now! Compare and contrast UL with other institutions Funding at UL: research p’grads Privately funded Advance Scholars’ Awards University / department scholarships Limited number of EU fee waivers Maintenance … tutorial assistants, demonstratorships …ask HODs/ADsR University demonstratorships €6,864 Masters; € 8,232 PhD External funding Irish Research Councils Humanities & Social Sciences (IRCHSS), €12,700 (16 January deadline) www.irchss.ie Science, Engineering & Technology (IRCSET), circa €16,000 (April?) + fees + bench fee €3k www.ircset.ie Research Grants (supervisors) Local Authority Grants 1 PG programme; fees plus 3 x €837 … now goes directly to student Other funding possibilities HEA Programme for Research in Third Level Institutes HEA – PTRLI Dec 2006 – possible PG funding in 2007 UL successful in 2002 MSSI Other agencies: Health Research Board, Marine Institute, etc. see Graduate School web site See UL web site for more details http://www.graduatestudies.ul.ie Application Timeline Autumn Spring Discuss your interests with advisors Research course offerings and funding Request application forms and course details Contact course leaders, possible supervisors Complete application forms (keep a copy) Apply for funding (January onwards) Complete GRE (if USA) Summer Provide supporting documents – transcripts Prepare for interview, if required Arrange visa, if required Decide which offer to accept Research Postgrad… Why bother? What is a research Masters? And a PhD? At what stage should you consider doing this? When…. and which? Doing something about it… Why bother? Additional expertise Some time / space between undergraduate life and the real world (Hopefully) you have become totally interested in some specialist topic you encountered during your undergraduate course And… PhDs are usually required for academic positions Masters and PhDs are usually required for more senior positions in (usually = almost invariably! In fact Post-doc experience plus publications the norm in Science) Research labs / Labs in industry Many industries are opting to pay for their laboratory staff to register and complete a postgraduate degree Part Time! Continuous Professional Development CPD in jargon! What is a research Masters? In UL, titles like MSc, MTech, MEng, MA, MEd etc. Full time: minimum of one academic year In practice… usually 2 academic years but (should be) easily completed in that time You are expected to complete a substantial volume of research and present it as a thesis Good option if you want an additional expertise Or slight change in direction from your undergraduate course And a PhD? Always a PhD in UL; sometimes called a D.Phil. or dr.philos. etc. elsewhere Full time: a minimum of 3 academic years You are expected to undertake a substantial amount of independent research To be fair, most take ~ 4 years It must be publishable in peer reviewed journals … original You present it as a thesis… perhaps with published papers You must demonstrate that you are capable of independent research and be able to design and carry out a research project Be warned… Many people want academic jobs… so it’s very competitive! And getting worse! Hence they are not well paid! IMHO! In science: lectureships usually ask for “a doctorate, with post-doctorate experience, some refereed publications and research grants. Additionally some teaching experience would be desirable.” !!! But the national policy is to… Double the output of people with postgrad qualifications by 2010 A national “upskilling”… Masters or PhD as % of Labour Force 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Persons with Masters or PhD as % of the Labour 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 <2% 2%Š4% 4%+ 0 0 0 0 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0 0 00 0 00 0 0 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0 0 00 00 0 0 00 0 00 0 0 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0 0 0 0 00 00 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 00 00 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 00 0 00 0 0 00 0 0 00 00 0 00 0 0 0 0 00 00 0 00 0 0 00 0 0 00 00 0 0 0 0 0 00 00 0 00 0 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 00 00 0 0 0 00 0 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 00 00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 So you want to go ahead? Funding The big issue! But things have improved! Fees Maintenance So you need a supervisor with a topic you are interested in and funding! (Or more realistically, a supervisor with funding for a topic you are interested in!) Funding options (in Science) Supervisor has a grant for the work: IRCSET Embark Initiative Enterprise Ireland, Environmental Protection Agency, EU etc. www.ircset.ie The Department may support some postgrads (previous overhead) and / or top up the following: Local Authority Scheme (one postgrad programme: fees + 3 x €837 per annum) UL Advance Scholars’ Awards (fees year in 1 – if not already covered - plus small bursary) Applications Applications (UL) Deadlines: research (monthly) versus taught (early June) Information: College / Department booklets / websites Talk to potential supervisors / ADsR Choose your final year project supervisor! Admission forms (see web site) http://www.ul.ie/graduatestudies/ Transferring from a Masters to a PhD Research Postgrads… at UL Discuss possible project and get “advice” from your supervisor on the Project Description “advice” = AGREE! Fill out the Postgraduate Form (research version)… all the forms are on the Graduate Studies website. Submit form by 15th of any month Applications are considered on the first Tuesday of each month (except August) Offers of places the following week No project, No supervisor? Discuss possibilities with your FYP supervisor Consult the ADR in your college … I usually suggest writing out a SHORT cv: one page MAXIMUM, with qualifications to date, FYP title and supervisor, special methods used etc. Give this to Head of Dept saying you are interested! ADsR, in each College Business, Dr Siobhan Tiernan Education, Dr Roland Tormey Humanities, Prof. Tom Lodge Informatics, Dr Gerard Lyons Engineering, Dr Patrick Frawley Science, Dr John Breen Note the name and enquire in your College So you’ve submitted your thesis… Chair, External and Internal Examiner Viva voce examination You graduate… Dr! In Germany they retain all their titles: Herr Professor Dr Dr! Photographer in action at a College of Science graduation! What now … Sem 1, year 4 ? Start expressing interest You need a 1st or 2:1 degree (hopefully) Discuss with potential supervisors Get working on funding applications Departmental funding: put together a 1 page CV and submit to heads of department Not all lost with a 2:2, but funding not as easy! Really chase it once results are known in June! There’s more than one university in Ireland And in the world! Though each tends to look after its own! Please note … Some facts of life: Note that applications e.g. to Irish Research Councils for Humanities and Social Sciences / Science and Technology (IRCHSS, IRCSET) are submitted by and for the candidate (you!) Nominally! However: you must involve your potential supervisor in the application Reference Help with the project description And also note… IRCHSS / IRCSET You need an “endorsement” by the university to which you are applying We would like to have internal “prescreening” of the applications and did do this in previous years: so the internal deadline was 2 weeks earlier. Application is now fully on line and there can be frustrations as the final deadline approaches You need two referees! So allow enough time! Postgrad Overseas: Some Initial Questions 1. Graduate Diploma or Masters? 2. If you choose Masters then taught or by research? 3. Home country or overseas? 4. What subject areas interest you sufficiently that you wish to study them further? Overseas Universities – Some Key Names 1. Harvard 2. MIT 3. Cambridge 4. Oxford 5. Stanford 6. California Berkeley 7. Yale 8.California IT 9. Princeton 10. Ecole Polytechnique Some UK Universities London School of Economics Imperial College London University College London University of Warwick University of York University of Bristol University of St. Andrews Durham University University of Bath University of Nottingham Kings College University of Edinburgh University of Manchester University of Southampton Loughborough University of Exeter University of East Anglia General Evaluative Criteria 1. Can I afford it? Most taught Masters in the UK cost between £4000 – £10,000 depending on the reputation of the school 2. Entry requirements – 2.1 3. Staff student ratio 4. Attrition rates 5. Location 6. Facilities Evaluative Criteria 7. Reputation of the University 8. Do you need visas and other documentation. Especially an issue for the USA Advantages of studying abroad 1. Exposure to new learning environments and cultures 2. Use of research libraries in key locations – for example London 3.Opportunity to meet and study with overseas students at post graduate level 4.Contact and network building PG Studying in the UK My choice ; London School of Economics – M.Sc in Industrial Relations and HRM Why? 1. Reputation of University 2. English Speaking 3. Learning and Teaching styles PG Studying in the UK 4. Publishing record of faculty 5. Employment record from the Course 6. Guidance from original University (TCD) 7. Fees – while I had to pay they were not prohibitive £3000 in 1988 8. Proximity to home Post Graduate Study in The USA Can be a marvelous experience but requires more planning Fulbright Scholarship in 2004 for research at Embry Riddle Aeronautical University, Daytona Beach, Florida Post doctoral research Fulbright Student Awards €15-20,000 for 1 academic year in USA For outstanding final-year students – min 2:1 All disciplines + sponsored awards in specific fields Must secure own placement in US college Application closing date 17th November Interviews in Dublin in January Students retain Fulbright status for full programme Full details on website: www.fulbright.ie 33% foreign postgrad students in USA receive funding Factors to Consider - USA 1. Timing of the application – 12 -18 months in advance 2. Choice – over 35,000 different courses from which to choose. All of the same issues apply – location and reputation 3. Costs huge issue for students. Much depends on the University and whether its public or private and also location and demand Factors to Consider Fees and living expenses anything from $11,000 to $50,000 Fees in some universities could be as low as $10,000 others are as high as $60,000 Financial Aid – Fulbright Student Scholarships offer up to €15,000-€20,000 to study in the USA Downside – 2 year home residence requirement for Fulbright Prestige of the award UK Versus USA Timeframe for application Distance Cost Funding for Postgraduate Study …etc Mary Sweeney Head of Careers Cooperative Education & Careers Division Postgraduate Study USA (cont.) Application Procedure Research Universities Check directories and websites Check Fulbright website Select realistic choice: 3-7 Request Application Material ($30 - $100 fee) Register for Tests GRE, GMAT Compile application material Consult UL faculty and Careers Service Statement of Purpose (Fulbright guidelines) Transcripts References: 2/3 Complete application and apply for financial aid Check visa requirements (US Embassy website) Funding for Postgraduate Study Overseas UK British Council, Research Councils Scholarships for Irish graduates Europe Government-funded International Scholarships Marie Curie Foundation German Academic Exchange Scholarships College of Europe, European University Institute USA Fulbright Awards O’Reilly Foundation; John F Kennedy Fund University Scholarships and Assistantships E.g. Conlisk MBA Scholarship Conlisk Scholarship - USA Fairfield University, USA Scholarship for MBA or MSc Finance Sponsored by Irish American community Awarded to 10 UL graduates to date Very positive feedback from graduates Value =$45,000 GMAT required Check www.ul.ie/careers News section Sources of Information www.ul.ie/careers (Postgraduate Study section) www.graduatestudies.ul.ie www.gradireland.com www.hea.ie www.prospects.ac.uk www.educationlink.org www.britishcouncil.org www.fulbright.ie www.fulbright.co.uk www.eurograduate.com www.petersons.com www.idp.com Other Resources Postgraduate Study Fair 21st February, 2006 All UL Faculties Other Irish Universities & Institutions Some UK Universities Opportunity to review options Postgraduate Courses in Education Tomorrow evening @ 6.30 in C1063