+ P2 workshop Problem objective Process costs Product costs + Class questions Fundamental Girls of CME 1 - Which column are we modeling in Chemcad? The large, industrial one, or the lab one? 2 - Our final objective is to propose an experiment modeling this large industrial column, right? 3 - Which column are we doing the cost analysis for? 4 - Which column are we doing the innovation analysis for? + Which column are we modeling in Chemcad? The large, industrial one, or the lab one? Q. Our understanding is that we are designing a large, industrial scale column. A.You are primarily modeling the big one, which has flows that should be within the typical range of the correlations for flooding, tray pressure drop, efficiencies, etc. When you have a solution that you like and think would be ‘stable’ in the lab, then transfer the conditions you have selected to a 30 ml/min flow, 8 tray column with a 5 cm diameter, sieve trays,.. + Our final objective is to propose an experiment modeling this large industrial column, right? A.You have stated the primary objective well.We want to predict conditions for the lab experiment that the next student groups can check. + Which column are we doing the cost analysis for? Q. We will do the cost analysis on the large column to make sure it is a realistic and profitable column in real life. A. Cost analysis on the large column. This will inform the team with respect to what a commercial separation of the feed would cost. When you have a crude optimization of the large column case, you will understand better what some of the cost and operating constraints. This should help provide a more realistic scenario for students to replicate in lab. + Which column are we doing the innovation analysis for? Q. From this column we are designing a small scale experiment that students would do (for example, telling them what they are given, what their desired product is, details of the physical column, and suggestions on reflux ratios. From that point, they would determine the most efficient reflux ratios and costs of running their column as part of their experiment). We would then apply the innovation analysis to our experiment design? A. The objective of designing the experiment before running it is to help students run the actual equipment. For example, with specified column operating conditions – feed condition, flows in and out, expected stage efficiencies – you will know the complete temperature profile at steadystate and how sensitive this might be to operating conditions changes (I.e., via a sensitivity analysis).Without a simulation, operators would have no idea what temperatures or flows to ‘hit’. If you were going to operate a piece of industrial equipment in a plant setting, the process engineer/plant manager should not let you touch a button until you can demonstrate that you know what will happen. Usually, this would extend to what to do in case of column flooding, a bad control valve, etc. + Process costs Stripping column to generate a relatively pure 2PrOH bottoms stream Approach Establish example material balances for the stripping column, setting 4 of 6 variables Run 3 to 4 trials changing one variable Or Sensitivity analysis for the same + Example trial: F = 100; xF = 0.5; xD = 0.95, 80% < %2-PrOH recovery < 90% case study F Xf Xd % PrOH recovery 100 0.5 0.95 variable kJ/kg-K kJ/kg 4.187 2270 latent heat Cp, water of steam % PrOH condenser reboiler CW, kg/h CW cost, steam, kg/h steam, lb/h utilities, Cw, m3 /h XB recovery duty,, kJ/h duty, kJ/h $/h $/yr 0.8 -7.22E+06 7.94E+06 86171 86 $1.72 3.50E+03 $50.70 $419,379 0.85 -1.22E+07 1.32E+07 145259 145 $2.91 5.81E+03 $84.26 $697,319 0.9 -2.64E+07 2.71E+07 315262 315 $6.31 1.19E+04 $173.11 $1,435,339 0.088 0.068 0.056 + Product costs Libguides.uky.edu/CME http://libguides.uky.edu/CME Chemical pricing = http://libguides.uky.edu/c.php?g=2229 48&p=1476423 http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/unitedstates.html + http://libguides.uky.edu/CME + + Click 1 = Select a year Click 2 = search within this pub + + What is the product cost for a year of operation? cost feed MeOH 2PrOH total 800 1.14 $912 $0.91 euro per metric ton dollars/euro $/1000 kg 2PrOH $ per kg 2PrOH $1.11 3.89 $0.29 0.792 $0.36 $/gallon MeOH liters/ gallon $/liter g/cm3 $/kg MeOH kmol/h kg/h 50 50 100 $/h 1602 3005 4607 $/yr $577.18 $4,617,434 $2,740.56 $21,924,480 $3,317.74 $26,541,914