The Spirit Catches You And You Fall Down

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WELCOME TO WEEK THREE!
THIS WEEK YOU WILL BE DIVIDED INTO FOUR RESPONSE GROUPS. THIS WAY WE
WILL AVOID HAVING ALL 22 OF US WRITING ON THE WHITEBOARD AT THE SAME
TIME  AND WE WILL HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO READ EACH OTHERS
ANSWERS. PLEASE NOTE WHICH GROUP YOU ARE IN. THANKS!
GROUP 2
GROUP 1
CRYSTAL CARPENTER
LIZ CONN
DEB DAVIS
BETH HANNAH
JENIFER ARNETT
ANGELLA ARTHURS
PAULA BAUMGARDNER
ERIN BUSHEK
CHRISTINA WEBSTER
GROUP 3
HEIDI IRVINE
TRINA KINHALT
COLEEN KOSAN
KATHERINE LEMON
GAIL PRUITT
GROUP 4
HMONG TEDDY BEAR
ANGIE MCALISTER
BETHANY MILLER
JESSICA OSBORNE
ANN POOLE
MARISSA WILSON
FOUA & LIA
A Quick Overview
 HMONG – AN ASIAN ETHNIC GROUP OF THE MOUNTAIN REGIONS
OF SOUTH EAST ASIA.
 THE SECRET OR QUIET WAR – THE RECRUITMENT OF HMONG BY THE
CIA TO FIGHT COMMUNIST VIETNAM FROM NEUTRAL LAO.
 RITUALISTIC BELIEFS – HMONG BELIEF SYSTEM HAS MANY
COMPLEXITIES THAN DO NOT JIBE WITH “TRADITIONAL” AMERICAN
BELIEFS.
 EPILEPSY – A CHRONIC NEUROLOGICAL DISORDER THAT PRODUCES
SEIZURES.
 QAUG DAB PEG – WHEN
DOWN
THE SPIRIT CATCHES YOU AND YOU FALL
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
PLEASE ANSWER WITH YOUR GROUP WHEN IT IS CALLED.
 LIA HAD AT LEAST 20 SEIZURES FROM
THE TIME SHE WAS 3-MONTHS OLD
TO WHEN SHE FINALLY RECEIVED THE
CORRECT MEDICAL DIAGNOSIS IN
8TH MONTH. WAS ITRIGHT THAT
THE DOCTORS DIDN’T TAKE THE TIME
DURING THOSE 5-MONTHS TO BETTER
UNDERSTAND WHAT FOUA AND
NAO KAO THOUGHT WAS
HAPPENING TO LIA?
HER
HMONG VILLAGE IN LAOS C. 2003
COMMUNICATION IS KEY
 FOUA AND NAO KAO WERE
OR RECOGNIZE NUMBERS.
ILLITERATE AS THEY COULD NOT READ
 IN THE HMONG CULTURE THE WORDS DO NOT JUST HAVE ONE
MEANING, BUT DURING THE COURSE OF A CONVERSATION THERE
ARE LAYERS OF MEANING.
 WAS
IT FAIR OR RIGHT THAT THE DOCTORS THE LEE FAMILY
INTERACTED WITH ASSUMED THAT FOUA AND
NAO KAO
UNDERSTOOD AND WOULD FOLLOW THEIR DIRECTIONS AS GIVEN?
 YOU TRY!
YOU HAVE VISITED YOUR DOCTOR WITH AN AILMENT.
THESE ARE HER INSTRUCTIONS TO YOU.
PLEASE READ AND FOLLOW THESE DIRECTIONS. THEY ARE VERY
IMPORTANT TO CONTROLLING YOUR NTSHAAV QAAB ZIB.
YOUR TXIV NEEB DIMOSTRA CHE HOW TO INIEZIONE. YOU
SHOULD ALSO DILGENZA ANALISI ALL THE INFORMATION AND
INSTRZIONE THAT COME WITH YOUR INSULINA AND NTSHAAV
QAAB ZIB SCELTA BEFORE GIVING TU STEZZO AN INIEZIONE.
GIVING AN INIEZIONE IS SEMPLICE, BUT IT DOES TAKE PRATICA.
TALK TO YOUR TXIV NEEB OR OTHER TRIBU WHO TAKE INSULINA
FOR SOSTENRO DURING THIS TEMPO.
A TXIV NEEB
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
 “(DR. NEIL ERNST’S) JOB, AS HE SAW, IT WAS TO
PRACTICE GOOD MEDICINE; THE LEES’ JOB WAS TO
COMPLY.” P. 79
DOES THIS POINT OF VIEW MESH WELL WITH THE HMONG
WAY OF THINKING?
DOES THIS POINT OF VIEW MESH WELL WITH BEING A
TEACHER?
WHAT IT MEANS TO BE
HMONG
OVERLAY: HMONG WOMAN WITH BABY IN A NYIAS.
UNDER: PAJ NTAUB SHOWING HMONG MIGRATION FROM LAOS
I HAVE ALWAYS HATED
HISTORY…
XIA LEE…..56 YR. OLD
HOPEFULLY, THE HMONG PEOPLE WILL BE A PART
OF US FOREVER AND MAKE US A BETTER
PERSON…. A BETTER TEACHER….A BETTER
HUMAN BEING.
TYPE ON THE SCREEN SOME WORDS TO DESCRIBE HMONG
PEOPLE IN THEIR NATURAL SETTING.
FISH SOUP
 “HOW TO PREPARE FISH SOUP”
 HMONG SAYING “TO SPEAK OF ALL KINDS OF THINGS”
 “YES, IT IS ABOUT AN EPILEPTIC HMONG TODDLER, BUT IT
IS ALSO ABOUT MANY OTHER THINGS….I STARTED
PULLING ON A SLENDER THREAD, THE THREAD THAT WAS
LIA LEE, THE SMALL SICK CHILD…I PULLED ON THE
THREAD AND THE THREAD BECAME A STRING AND THE
STRING BECAME A ROPE, AND THEN I TUGGED REALLY
HARD ON THE ROPE AND I DISCOVERED THAT IT WAS
ATTACHED TO THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE.”
 CAN YOU THINK OF ANY EXAMPLES FROM YOUR
CLASSROOM OR TEACHING THAT SUPPORT THIS PREMISE
THAT EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED TO EVERYTHING ELSE?
 AS YOUR GROUP IS ANNOUNCED, PLEASE WRITE YOUR
ANSWER IN THE SIDEBAR.
 I WILL GIVE YOU A MINUTE OR TWO TO COLLECT YOUR
THOUGHTS….AND ANOTHER TO TYPE.
Poll Question
 PLEASE ANSWER A, B, C, OR D. PLEASE ANSWER
HONESTLY, FOR THERE ARE NO RIGHT OR WRONG
ANSWERS.
 I WILL ASK YOU A QUESTION, AND I WANT YOU TO
ANSWER LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE ANSWERED BEFORE
YOU READ THE BOOKS WE HAVE STUDIED.
 THEN WE WILL DO A 2ND POLL, AND I WOULD LIKE YOU
TO ANSWER HOW YOU FEEL NOW….AFTER HAVING
READ THE BOOKS FOR THIS CLASS.
 LET’S BEGIN.
A FRIEND SENT ME THIS TEXT
MESSAGE ON MY CELL PHONE:
 IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY…YOU GET
12 YEARS HARD LABOR.
 IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY…YOU ARE DETAINED
INDEFINITELY.
 IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY…YOU GET SHOT.
 IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY …YOU WILL
BE JAILED.
 IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY…YOU MAY NEVER BE
HEARD FROM AGAIN.
 IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY….YOU WILL BE
THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.
IF YOU CROSS THE UNITED STATES BORDER
ILLEGALLY, YOU GET:
 Food stamps
 A welfare check
 Subsidized rent
 Free education
 Free health care
 All paid for by our taxes!! Are you tired of paying for
this? If so, pass this on to your friends.
BEFORE YOU READ POLL
REMEMBER:
ANSWER FROM YOUR HEART
READING THESE CHAPTERS
BEFORE
 A) YES I’M SICK OF IT!!!
 B) I DON’T LIKE IT AT ALL.
 C) SOME OF THEM DESERVE IT BUT I GET SICK OF
PAYING FOR IT.
 D) THEY NEED HELP AND I DON’T MIND USING MY
TAXES.
AFTER POLL
PLEASE ANSWER HOW YOU FEEL NOW.AFTER
THESE BOOKS.
READING
 A) YES I’M SICK OF IT!!!
 B) I DON’T LIKE IT AT ALL.
 C) SOME OF THEM DESERVE IT BUT I GET SICK OF
PAYING FOR IT.
 D) THEY NEED HELP AND I DON’T MIND USING MY
TAXES.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
PLEASE ANSWER WITH YOUR GROUP IN THE SIDEBAR.
 WHAT IF FOUA AND NAO KAO HAD ADMINISTERED LIA
LEE’S MEDS RELIGIOUSLY FROM THE BEGINNING? DO
YOU THINK LIA LEE’S MEDICAL OUTCOME WOULD HAVE
BEEN ANY DIFFERENT?
 WHAT IF PEGGY AND NEIL HAD PRESCRIBED
THE DEPAKENE IN THE BEGINNING? DO YOU
THINK LIA LEE’S MEDICAL OUTCOME WOULD
HAVE BEEN ANY DIFFERENT?
 WHAT IF THERE HAD BEEN A GOOD INTERPRETER PRESENT
AT ALL HOSPITAL VISITS? IT WOULD HAVE ALLEVIATED A
LOT OF STRESS AND PERHAPS SOME ANGER AND
IRRITATION, BUT WOULD IT HAVE CHANGED ANYTHING
MEDICALLY IN REFERENCE TO THE OUTCOME?
FOSTER CARE
 HOW DOES IT AFFECT EDUCATION?
ACCORDING TO AN ARTICLE FROM NCCPR, IN 2002,
THE “AUTHORITIES TORE 10 HMONG CHILDREN FROM THEIR
FAMILIES AFTER THEY CONFUSED MARKS LEFT BY A
TRADITIONAL SOUTHEAST ASIAN HEALING PRACTICE
KNOWN AS "COINING" WITH CHILD ABUSE.” “EVEN AFTER
THE ERROR WAS EXPLAINED, AUTHORITIES KEPT THE
CHILDREN…”
 COIN RUBBING: (KAV) A HMONG
HEALING METHOD IN WHICH THE SKIN IS
VIGOROUSLY RUBBED IN SPECIFIC AREAS
WITH MEDICATED OIL AND SILVER COINS
OR A SPOON.
RUBBING CREATES
PRESSURE ON THE SKIN TO DRAW THE
WIND OR EXCESS PRESSURE, THAT IS
BELIEVED TO BE CAUSING THE AILMENT,
OUT OF THE BODY.
THIS IS A HARMLESS
PROCEDURE; HOWEVER, THE RED MARKS
CAN BE MISTAKEN AS ABUSE.
CUPPING IS ALSO A REMEDY THAT THE HMONG USE THAT HAVE BEEN
MISTAKEN AS ABUSE BECAUSE OF THE MARKS LEFT ON THE BODY.
 CUPPING: (NQUS) A PIECE OF PAPER IS LIT INSIDE A CUP AND
PLACED ON TOP OF THE SKIN TO CREATE A VACUUM. WHEN THE
FIRE BURNS OUT, SUCTION IS CREATED, DRAWING OUT THE "WIND"
OR "BAD BLOOD" CAUSING THE AILMENT. THIS IS A PAINFUL
PROCEDURE THAT IS DONE FOR ITS CURATIVE
POWERS.
UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES AMERICAN OFFICIALS HAVE
MISTAKEN THE BRUISES FOR ABUSE, WITH DIRE SOCIAL
CONSEQUENCES.
209,000 HMONG ESTIMATED TO LIVE
IN THE U.S. DURING 2006
 THE MAJORITY OF HMONG LIVE IN CALIFORNIA &
MINNESOTA
 NEARLY 80,000 CHILDREN IN CALIFORNIA ARE IN SOME
FORM OF FOSTER CARE
 NATIONALLY, THERE ARE 500,000 CHILDREN IN FOSTER
CARE
 OHIO HAD OVER 19,000 IN 2003
 IN 2007, SCIOTO COUNTY HAD OVER 11,000 ENTERING
THE CUSTODY OF FAMILY SERVICES. ALMOST 9,000
WERE IN LICENSED/CERTIFIED FOSTER HOMES.
 I HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH HAVING FOSTER CHILDREN
IN MY CLASSROOM, WITH GOOD AND BAD
EXPERIENCES. ALSO, IN ONE CASE, I ONLY KNEW
BECAUSE THE CHILD TOLD ME PERSONALLY.
 I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS
FOR YOU:
 1. HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, THAT YOU
HAVE CHILDREN IN YOUR CLASSROOM THAT ARE EITHER
IN FOSTER CARE OR HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THEIR
HOME?
 2. HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THE CHILD’S
SITUATION? EXAMPLE: DID YOU HAVE A STAFF MEETING;
DID YOU MEET WITH SOCIAL WORKERS; DID THE STUDENT
TELL YOU?
TRUE OR FALSE PRIVACY
QUESTIONS ABOUT A CHILD’S CASE
 “WHEN CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION FROM A CHILD
WELFARE CASE IS SHARED WITH A SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR, IT
SHOULD NOT BE SHARED WITH ANY OTHER STAFF.”
 “FALSE. IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT A STUDENT AND
ISSUES RELATED TO THE STUDENT’S EDUCATION, NEED TO BE
SHARED WITH ALL SCHOOL STAFF THAT WORK WITH THE
STUDENT. IF IMPORTANT INFORMATION RELATED TO THE
STUDENT DOES NOT “TRICKLE DOWN” TO THE STAFF WORKING
DIRECTLY WITH THAT STUDENT, INFORMATION SHARING DOES
NOT ACHIEVE THE INTENDED BENEFIT.”
TRUE OR FALSE
 “A CHILD’S INVOLVEMENT IN FOSTER CARE IS USUALLY
COMMON KNOWLEDGE AMONG STAFF AND PEERS.”
 “FALSE. WHILE
SHARING INFORMATION AMONG
SCHOOL STAFF WHO HAVE A LEGITIMATE INTEREST IN
WORKING WITH A STUDENT IS NECESSARY, SCHOOLS
MUST BE CAREFUL NOT TO VIOLATE THE PRIVACY OF
STUDENTS WHO ARE IN FOSTER CARE BY SHARING
INFORMATION WITH OTHERS WHO DO NOT HAVE A NEED
TO KNOW.”
EDUCATIONAL STATISTICS FOR
STUDENTS IN FOSTER CARE
 83% OF FOSTER CHILDREN ARE HELD BACK IN THE THIRD
GRADE
 75% OF CHILDREN AND YOUTH IN FOSTER CARE ARE
BEHIND GRADE LEVEL
 ONLY 46% OF FORMER FOSTER CHILDREN COMPLETE
HIGH SCHOOL
 50% OF FOSTER CHILDREN EXPERIENCE DEVELOPMENTAL
DELAYS DUE TO BIRTH TRAUMA AND MANY LIFE
CHALLENGES
 MANY FOSTER CHILDREN EXPERIENCE CHANGE IN THEIR
ENVIRONMENT AND WHERE THEY LIVE. THEY CHANGE
SCHOOLS MORE FREQUENTLY AND HAVE FALLEN BEHIND
AS A RESULT. THEY ARE ALSO NOTED TO BE MORE
AGGRESSIVE IN RELATIONSHIPS AS A WAY TO FORM A
“WALL”. THEY MAY ALSO BE DISRUPTIVE IN ORDER TO
GET ATTENTION AND/OR REJECT OTHERS BECAUSE THEY
EXPECT THAT REJECTION FOR THEM WILL COME ANYWAY.
THEY MIGHT LIE TO PLEASE OTHERS. AS FOR SCHOOL,
THEY MAY HAVE POOR ATTENDANCE BECAUSE OF FEAR
OR BECAUSE IT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY ENFORCED. AS A
RESULT, MANY FOSTER CHILDREN WORRY ABOUT
SURVIVAL, NEW SURROUNDINGS, NEW FACES, MAKING
OTHERS HAPPY OR TO BE ACCEPTED BY OTHERS.
SUCCESS IN SCHOOL MAY BE THE LAST THING ON THEIR
MINDS OR JUST TO EXHAUSTING TO WORK ON.
 WHAT BEHAVIORS
HAVE YOU NOTICED WITH YOUR
STUDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN PLACED IN FOSTER CARE OR
HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THEIR HOME?
 DO
YOU THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW
THAT YOUR STUDENT MAY BE A FOSTER CHILD OR HAVE
BEEN REMOVED FROM THEIR HOME?
HOW DOES THIS BOOK FIT INTO
THE EDUCATION FIELD?
HOW CAN WE AS EDUCATORS GET ALL INVOLVED
IN THE EDUCATION OF THE STUDENTS (ALL NEED
TO BE INVOLVED INCLUDING PARENTS) WITH THE
DIFFERENCE OF CULTURES AND BACKGROUNDS.
 IF YOU HAVE HAD ANY EXPERIENCE IN TEACHING IN A
AREA WITH DIFFERENT CULTURES AND BACKGROUNDS,
HOW HAVE YOU MODIFIED YOU ASSIGNMENTS TO MEET
THE NEEDS OF EACH CHILD?
 THIS IS A LINK TO A DISTRICT IN BUMCOMBE COUNTY,
NORTH CAROLINA WHERE A MIX OF CULTURAL
BACKGROUNDS ARE BEING TAUGHT TO.
 HTTP://WWW.BUNCOMBE.K12.NC.US/EES/SITE/DEFAULT.
ASP
 WHEN I CURRENTLY WAS THERE, 13 DIFFERENT
COUNTRIES WERE BEING REPRESENTED. TODAY AROUND
150 STUDENTS ARE RECEIVING EEL SERVICES.
SPIRIT TASK
 PLEASE TAKE A FEW MOMENTS AND LOG ONTO THE
CLASS BLOG IN BLACKBOARD AND SHARE SOMETHING
FROM THIS WEEK’S READING THAT SPOKE TO YOU. IT
CAN BE SOMETHING THAT MADE YOU HAPPY, SAD,
FRUSTRATED, ANGRY, OR MADE YOU WANT TO TAKE
ACTION.
 THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE TWO RESPONSES ALREADY
ASSIGNED, SO IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE LONG AND
DETAILED – WE JUST WANT TO GET YOU THINKING AND
SHARING 
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