Completed in December, 2006 Transcripts of Carl Rogers' Therapy Sessions Edited by Barbara T. Brodley and Germain Lietaer To facilitate psychotherapy research and the education of students in client-centered therapy, the editors have compiled as complete a record as possible of transcripts of Carl R. Rogers' sessions with actual and demonstration clients. A full description of this project is available in an article by Germain Lietaer and Barbara T. Brodley, "Carl Rogers in the Therapy Room: A Listing of Session Transcripts and a Survey of Publications Referring to Rogers’ Sessions," published 2004 in Person-Centered & Experiential Psychotherapies, 2(4), pp. 274-291. A supplemental list of more recent publications referring to Rogers’ sessions is included here. These transcripts are being made available as Microsoft Word documents for purposes of research, study and teaching and may not be sold. Code names have been used for a number of the demonstration clients. For a few of these coded clients other names have been used in other lists and articles. If clarification in distinguishing between clients discussed in other publications is needed the following individuals may be contacted: Germain Lietaer Kathryn Moon germain.lietaer@psy.kuleuven.be kmoon1@alumni.uchicago.edu The transcripts have been checked and re-checked but may still include errors. Also, some correct transcriptions are surprising, seem wrong and may be thought to be errors when they are not. Every effort has been made to follow the original transcript retrieved from the University of Chicago Counseling and Psychotherapy Center or a recording of the session. If you determine that there is an error, please confirm it by listening to a tape, video or dvd of the session before sending suggestions for corrections to Kathy Moon (kmoon1@alumni.uchicago.edu). Author's Note. To the many people (Wendy Bradburn, Anne Brody, Christine Badger, Els Heidbüchel, Claudia Kemp, Charley Knapp, Ryan McDonald, Amanda McLaney, Noriko Motomasa, Judy Nelson, Julie Roe, Susan Pildes, Ivan Rice, Marco Temaner, Els Vloeberghen and others) who contributed by transcribing and editing sessions from tapes and scanning into Word, our heartfelt thanks and appreciation. In particular, we would like to thank Kathryn Moon for her thoughtful editorial assistance through the last two years of this project. Rogers’ Transcripts, Volume 1, Introduction & Contents, page 1 Table of Contents for all of Rogers’ Transcripts Volume 1: Introduction and Table of Contents Volume 2: Herbert Bryan Sessions 1- 8 Concluding Remarks 1940-41 Volume 3: Frank Introduction Sessions 1-5 Mary Jane Tilden Sessions 1 - 11 1943 1945 Volume 4 Mrs. Ett Sessions 1 - 16 1947 Volume 5 Miss Int Sessions 1 - 7 1946-48 Volume 6 Miss Vib Sessions 1 - 11 1946-48 Volume 7 Mrs. Dem Sessions 1 - 3 Mrs. Sar [before an audience] Sessions 1 - 3 Session 4 [includes audience discussion] 1946-48 1950 Rogers’ Transcripts, Volume 1, Introduction & Contents, page 2 Mr. Zak Session 37 Session on 11/4/50 Session on 1/20/51 A later interview 1950-51 Volume 8 Mrs. Oak/BAFO Introduction Sessions 1-26 1950-51 Volume 9 Mrs. Oak/BAFO Sessions 27 – 47 1950-51 Volume 10 Mr. Bik (22nd) Mrs. Sup (1st) Mike Interview before a group Mrs. Roc (7th) Miss Mun (17th) Mr. Lin Sessions 1 – 2 Mr. Necta (excerpts) Sessions 58 – 63 and Session 80 Volume 11 Miss Fas Sessions 22 – 24 Loretta interview Discussion Elaine interview Joan interview Mrs. P.S. interview Jim Brown/VAC Session A (Mid-therapy Tuesday session) Session B (Subsequent Friday session) Fifteen excerpts of other sessions 1951 1952 1952 1954 1954 1955 1955-57 1956 1958 1959 1959 1960 1960 1959-60 Rogers’ Transcripts, Volume 1, Introduction & Contents, page 3 Volume 12 Gloria Filmed interview Sylvia 4th Filmed interview Commentary interspersed throughout Sylvia 5th filmed interview Commentary interspersed throughout Kathy filmed interview Dione1st filmed interview Commentary interspersed throughout Dione 2nd filmed interview Final Comments Volume 13 Anna interview before a group With commentary Philippe interview before a group With commentary & discussion Alfons interview before a group With commentary & discussion Irene interview before a group With commentary & discussion Volume 14 Julia 1st interview before a group Commentary Julia 2nd interview before a group Commentary Discussion Margaret interview before a group Commentary Discussion Mark interview before a group Jan interview before a group Commentary Beate interview before a group Gina interview before a group Commentary & discussion Volume 15 Reiko interview before a group Ms G. interview before a group Commentary & discussion 1965 1975 1975 1977 1977 1977 1980 1981 1981 1981 1982 1982 1982 1982 1982 1983 1983 1983 1983 Rogers’ Transcripts, Volume 1, Introduction & Contents, page 4 Jill interview before a group Richie interview before a group Daniel interview before a group Commentary & discussion Elly interview before a group (excerpts) Volume 16 Vivian interview before a group Commentary David interview before a group Commentary and discussion June interview before a group Commentary Peterann interview before a group Commentary & discussion Volume 17 Mary interview before a group Commentary & discussion Louise interview before a group Commentary & discussion Steve interview before a group Commentary & discussion Lydia 1st interview before a group Commentary Lydia 2nd interview before a group Commentary 1983 1983 1983 1983-84 1984 1984 1985 1985 1986 1986 1986 1986 1986 Rogers’ Transcripts, Volume 1, Introduction & Contents, page 5 ADDITIONAL REFERENCES SINCE 2003 Barrett-Lennard, G. T. (2003). Client-centred therapy: A ‘reply’ to misconceptions. In G. T. Barrett-Lennard, Steps on a mindful journey: Person-centred expressions (pp. 22-33). Ross-on-Wye, England: PCCS Books. [Loretta] Bohart, A. C., & Byock, G. (2005). Experiencing Carl Rogers from the client’s point of view: A vicarious ethnographic investigation. I. Extraction and Perception of Meaning. The Humanistic Psychologist, 33(3), 187-211. [Gloria, Sylvia, Jim Brown] Bozarth, J. D., Tausch, R. & Zimring, F. M. (2002). Research in client-centered therapy: The evolution of a revolution. In D. Cain & J. Seeman (Eds.), Humanistic psychotherapies: Handbook of research and practice (pp. 147-188. Washington, DC: APA. [Sylvia] Brodley, B.T. (2004). 2004 Postscript to ‘Uncharacteristic Directiveness’. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp.47-51). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione, David] Brodley, B. T. (2006). Non-directivity in client-centered therapy. Person-Centered and Experiential Psychotherapies, 5, 36-52. [Steve] Brodley, B.T., & Schneider, C. (2001). Unconditional positive regard as communicated through verbal behavior in client-centered therapy. In J.D. Bozarth & P. Wilkins (Eds.), Rogers’ therapeutic conditions: Evolution, theory and practice. Vol. 3. Unconditional positive regard (pp.156-172). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books [Mun, Loretta, Elaine, Kathy, Lydia, Vivian, Daniel] Chantler, K. (2004). Double-edged sword: Power and person-centred counseling. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp.116-129). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione] Charleton, M. & Lockett, M. (2004). Using videotapes of the sessions to examine ways of helping counselors to work with the person-centred approach in a transcultural setting (pp. 160-174). In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp.116-129). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione] Clarke, C. (2004). The person-centred challenge: Cultural difference and the core conditions. (2004). In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp.130-138). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione] Rogers’ Transcripts, Volume 1, Introduction & Contents, page 6 Dhingra, S. & Saxton, R. (2004). Cross-racial/cultural matching: Three approaches to working transculturally. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp.139-147). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione] Frankyl, M. (2005). Socratic self-examination by means of non-directive empathy: The anatomy of empathic reflections. In B. E. Levitt (Ed.), Embracing nondirectivity: Reassessing person-centered theory and practice in the 21st century (pp.139-169). Rosson-Wye, England: PCCS Books. [Gloria] Frankyl, M., & Sommerbeck, L. (2005). Two Rogers and congruence: The emergence of therapist-centered therapy and the demise of client-centered therapy. In B. E. Levitt (Ed.), Embracing nondirectivity: Reassessing person-centered theory and practice in the 21st century (pp. 40-61). Ross-on-Wye, England: PCCS Books. [Gloria] Gazolla, N., & Stalikas, A. (2003). Can Carl Rogers teach us anything about interpretations? Person-centered & Experiential Psychotherapies, 2(4), 242-247 [Mun, P.S., Gloria, Kathy] Gazolla, N., & Stalikas, A. (2004). Therapist interpretations and client processes in three therapeutic modalities: Implications for psychotherapy. Journal of Psychotherapy Integration, 14, 397-418 [Mun, P.S., Gloria, Kathy] Glauser, A. S., & Bozarth, J. D. (2001). Person-centered counseling: The culture within. Journal of Counseling & Development, 79(2), 142-147. [Gloria] Grant, B. (2005). Taking only what is given: Self-determination and empathy in nondirective client-centered therapy. In B. E. Levitt (Ed.), Embracing nondirectivity: Reassessing person-centered theory and practice in the 21st century (pp. 248-260). Ross-on-Wye, England: PCCS Books. [Jan] Hall, W. A. (2004). A credit to one’s self, one’s race and one’s community. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp.231-234). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione] James, S. & Foster, G. (2004). Horizons of alienation: culture and hermeneutics. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp.200-212). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione] Kemp, C. M. (2004). Responses to clients’ questions in client-centered therapy. Unpublished doctoral dissertation. The Chicago School of Professional Psychology. [all transcribed clients] Rogers’ Transcripts, Volume 1, Introduction & Contents, page 7 Lee, C. (2004). Twenty-first century reflections on ‘The Right to be Desperate’ and ‘On Anger and Hurt’. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp.228-230). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione] Lietaer, G. (2004). Carl Rogers’ verbal responses in ‘On Anger and Hurt’: Content analysis and clinical reflections. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp.5270). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione] McLeod, J. (2004). ‘On Anger and Hurt’ sessions: A narrative social constructionist perspective. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp.175-189). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione] Merry, T. (2004). Classical client-centred therapy. In P. Sanders (Ed.), The tribes of the person-centred nation: An introduction to the schools of therapy related to the personcentered approach (pp 21-44). [Ms G] Mier, S. & Witty, M. (2004). Considerations of race and culture in the practice of nondirective client-centered therapy. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp.85104). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione, David, Ms G] Missiaen, C. (2004). Een hedendaagse visie op experiëntiële procesbevordering. In M. Leijssen & N. Stinckens (Eds.), Wijsheid in gesprekstherapie (pp.43-62). Leuven: Leuven University Press [Gloria] Moodley, R. (2004). Looking back ‘On Anger and Hurt’. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp.17-35). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione, David, Ms G] Moodley, R., Shipton, G., & Falken, G. (2004). ‘The Right to be Desperate’ and ‘On Anger and Hurt’ in the presence of Carl Rogers. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp. 105-115). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione] Moon, K. A. (in press). A Client-centered review of Rogers with Gloria. Journal of Counseling and Development. [Gloria] Moon, K. A. (2005). Nondirective therapist congruence in theory and practice. In B. E. Levitt (Ed.), Embracing nondirectivity: Reassessing person-centered theory and practice in the 21st century (pp. 261-280). Ross-on-Wye, England: PCCS Books. [Gloria] Rogers’ Transcripts, Volume 1, Introduction & Contents, page 8 Pankhania, J. (2004). The ‘armour-plated man’ in cross-racial counselling. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp. 235-238). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione] Raskin, N.J. (2001). The history of empathy in the client-centered movement. In S. Haugh & T. Merry (Eds.), Rogers’ therapeutic conditions: Evolution, theory and practice. Vol. 2. Empathy (pp. 1-15). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books [Mike, Loretta, Gloria] Raskin, N. J. (1949/2004). The development of the ‘Parallel Studies’ project. Journal of Consulting Psychology, 13(3), 154-6. Reprinted in N.J. Raskin, Contributions to clientcentered therapy and the person-centered approach (pp. 28-32). Ross-on-Wye, England: PCCS Books. [Dem, Int, Vib] Raskin, N. J. (1948/2004). An analysis of six parallel studies of therapeutic process. Journal of Consulting Psychology, 13(3), 206-20. Reprinted in N.J. Raskin, Contributions to client-centered therapy and the person-centered approach (pp. 33-53). Ross-on-Wye, England: PCCS Books. [Dem, Int, Vib] Raskin, N. J. (1952/2004). An objective study of the locus-of-evaluation factor in psychotherapy. (Based on 1949 doctoral dissertation at the Univ. of Chicago) In W. Wolff & J.A. Precker (Eds.), Success in psychotherapy, New York: Grune and Stratton. Reprinted in N.J. Raskin, Contributions to client-centered therapy and the personcentered approach (pp. 54-71). Ross-on-Wye, England: PCCS Books. [Dem,Int,Vib] Raskin, N. J. & Zimring, F. (1992/2004). Carl Rogers and client/person-centered psychotherapy. In D. K. Freedheim (Ed.), History of psychotherapy: A century of change (pp. 629-56). Washington, D.C.: American Psychological Association. Reprinted in N.J. Raskin, Contributions to client-centered therapy and the person-centered approach (pp. 167-191). Ross-on-Wye, England: PCCS Books. [Bryan, Ett] Raskin, N. J., & Rogers, C. R. (2005). Person centered therapy. In R. J. Corsini & D. Wedding (Eds.), Current psychotherapies (pp. 130-165). Belmont, CA: Brooks/Cole. [Gloria, Jill] Rhys, C. S., Selwyn Black, W.R., & Savage, S. (2004). Rogerian empathic listening: Applying conversation analysis to ‘The Right to be Desperate’ session. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp. 71-84). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione] Richards, G. (2004). ‘Tripping’ in ‘The Right to be Desperate’ and ‘On Anger and Hurt’. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp. 244-246). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione] Rogers’ Transcripts, Volume 1, Introduction & Contents, page 9 Rogers, C. R. (1986-87/1989). Reflection of feelings and transference. Person-Centered Review, 1(4), 375-372 and 2(2), 182-188. Reprinted in H. Kirschenbaum & V. L. Henderson, The Carl Rogers Reader (pp. 127-134). Boston: Houghton Mifflin. [Sylvia] Rogers, C.R. et al. (1949). A coordinated research in psychotherapy. Journal of Consulting Psychology, 13 (whole issue 3), 149-220 [Dem, Int, Vib] Shlien, J. M. (1884/2003). Secrets and the psychology of secrecy. In R. F. Levant & J.M. Shlien (Eds.) Client-Centered Therapy and the Person-centered approach (pp. 390-9). Reprinted in P. Sanders (Ed.) To Lead an Honorable Life: Invitations to think about Client-Centered Therapy and the Person-Centered Approach (pp. 60-68). Ross-on-Wye: PCCS Books. [Mrs. Oak/BAFO] Shlien, J. M. (1984/2003). A Countertheory of transference. In R. F. Levant & J. M. Shlien (Eds.) Client-Centered Therapy and the Person-centered approach (pp. 93-119). Reprinted in P. Sanders (Ed.) To Lead an Honorable Life: Invitations to think about Client-Centered Therapy and the Person-Centered Approach (pp. 93-118). Ross-onWye: PCCS Books. [Gloria] Sommerbeck, L. (2003). The client-centred therapist in psychiatric contexts: A therapists' guide to the psychiatric landscape and its inhabitants. Ross-on-Rye, England: PCCS. [Elaine] Stillwell, W. (2004). Multiple interpretations: Stories, lies and videotapes. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp. 247-252). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione] Stinckens, N., Lietaer, G., & Leijssen, M. (2004). Werken met de innerlijke criticus. Een pleidooi voor een flexibele en procesdirectieve aanpak. Tijdschrift Cliëntgerichte psychotherapie, 42(3), 165-183. [Jill] Takens, R.J. (2005). Rogers’ interviews with Gloria and Kathy revisited: A microanalysis of the client-therapist interaction. Person-centered & Experiential Psychotherapies, 4(2), 77-89. [Gloria, Kathy] Talahite, A. & Moodley, R. (2004). Therapist’s faces, client’s masks: Racial enactments through pain, anger and hurt. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp.213-227). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione] Thorne, B. (1992). Carl Rogers. London: Sage. [Bryan] Tudor, K., & Merry, T. (2002). Dictionary of Person-Centred Psychology. London: Whurr. [general reference] Rogers’ Transcripts, Volume 1, Introduction & Contents, page 10 West, W. (2004). Points of departure: A humanistic-spiritual view. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp.190-199). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione, Gloria] Whitehead, S. (2004). The man he has become. In R. Moodley, C. Lago & A. Talahite (Eds.), Carl Rogers counsels a black client: Race and culture in person-centred counseling (pp.239-243). Ross-on-Wye, U.K.: PCCS Books. [Dione] Wickman, S.A., & Campbell, C. (2003). An analysis of how Carl Rogers enacted clientcentered conversation with Gloria, Journal of Counseling & Development. 81(2) 178184. [Gloria] Worsley, R. (2002). Process work in person-centred therapy: Phenomenological and existential perspectives. New York: Palgrave. [Kathy] Rogers’ Transcripts, Volume 1, Introduction & Contents, page 11