The Hong Kong Institute of Surveyors Quantity Surveying Division Minutes of the 4th Council Meeting (Year 2011 – 2012) Date Time Venue : : : 3 April 2012 18:30 Room 810, Jardine House, Central, Hong Kong Attendance : Thomas HO Keith YIM Honby CHAN Paul K L WONG Sunny CHAN Antony MAN Poleon CHAN Kathy CHEUNG Amelia FOK Raymond KAM Raymond KONG Evenlyn KWOK Tim NGAI Steven TANG Ki-cheung TANG Sandy TANG Jesse WONG Tzena WONG Joe WU Kwan-sum YAM Franki YEUNG Daisy YEUNG Mandy LAM Steve YU Ricky CHAN Dick CHAN Steven CHAN Joseph CHONG Eddie CHONG Chris FUNG Jeff IP Phoebe KAM Stephen LAM Anthony LAU Joe LAW Raymond LEUNG Thomas NG P : Present Ap : Absent with apology k.i.v. : keep in view Chairman Vice Chairman Vice Chairman Hon. Secretary Hon. Treasurer Imm. Past Chairman Elected Member Elected Member Elected Member Elected Member Elected Member Elected Member Elected Member Elected Member Elected Member Elected Member Elected Member Elected Member Elected Member Elected Member Elected Member Elected Member YSG Representative YSG Representative Co-opt Member Co-opt Member Co-opt Member Co-opt Member Co-opt Member Co-opt Member Co-opt Member Co-opt Member Co-opt Member Co-opt Member Co-opt Member Co-opt Member Co-opt Member QSD Council Meeting (3 April 2012) P P AP P P AP P P AP P P AP P P P AP P AP AP P AP AP AP AP AP Don READER Arthur SHIA Thomas TSE Gregory TUNG Mickey WONG Chung-fat WONG Patrick YIP Janet CHAN Ka-chung CHANG Alan CHEUNG Yiu-sun CHO Raymond CHU Enmale KWOK Jacob LAM Yen-ling LAM Rowson LEE Yu-meng LEE Mei-yung LEUNG Betty LO Sandy LUI Jesper SHUM Mau-hing SUEN Anthony TAM Donald WONG Peter YUEN Sam CHENG Nelson CHENG Tat-tong CHEUNG Eric CHUNG Daniel HO Paul HO Spencer KWAN Gilbert KWOK Stephen LAI Francis LEUNG Anita LIU Gary YEUNG 1 of 14 Co-opt Member Co-opt Member Co-opt Member Co-opt Member Co-opt Member Co-opt Member Co-opt Member Sub-Committee Member Sub-Committee Member Sub-Committee Member Sub-Committee Member Sub-Committee Member Sub-Committee Member Sub-Committee Member Sub-Committee Member Sub-Committee Member Sub-Committee Member Sub-Committee Member Sub-Committee Member Sub-Committee Member Sub-Committee Member Sub-Committee Member Sub-Committee Member Sub-Committee Member Sub-Committee Member Panel Advisor Panel Advisor Panel Advisor Panel Advisor Panel Advisor Panel Advisor Panel Advisor Panel Advisor Panel Advisor / SVP (GC) Panel Advisor Panel Advisor Hon. Secretary (GC) AP AP P P AP AP AP AP P P P P AP The Hong Kong Institute of Surveyors Quantity Surveying Division Minutes of the 4th Council Meeting (Year 2011 – 2012) Item 1.0 Action Apology for Absence Apologies for absence from members were received and listed in the above. 2.0 Confirmation of Minutes of Last Meeting The minutes of the last meeting held on 1 March 2012 were confirmed without amendments. 3.0 Matters Arising from Minutes of Last Meeting 3.1 Maintenance Contract Daniel Ho advised that Gilbert Kwok would wrap up the Maintenance Contract by the end of May 2012. Daniel Ho will follow with Gilbert Kwok to print the Maintenance Contract around June / July 2012. 3.2 3.6 Thomas Ho / TT Cheung Thomas Ho / Keith Yim PAQS 2012 Congress, 7 to 10 July 2012, Brunei Thomas Ho advised that the PAQS 2012 Congress will be held from 7 to 10 July 2012 in Brunei. Thomas Ho urged members to submit papers. 3.5 Daniel Ho/ Gilbert Kwok Study on Cost Aspect of Infrastructure Works Cost data on Infrastructure Works had been received from DLS. Thomas Ho had prepared a template based upon DLS’s reply and sent letter to ACQS for asking more cost data from local Consultant firms. Keith Yim was requested to follow with PAQS country members. 3.4 Noted Reciprocity Agreement with AACEI of USA It was noted that no progress had been made on the proposed Agreement. Thomas Ho would urge TT Cheung to follow up the matter with AACEI. 3.3 Noted All Articles for Wen Wei Po and Capital CEO / Capital Entrepreneur Wen Wei Po published an article in Chinese entitled「工料測量與你息息 相關」, which was prepared by Thomas Ho, on 6 March 2012. Noted The coming column opportunities for providing articles for Wen Wei Po and Capital CEO / Capital Entrepreneur will be on 21 August 2012 and in June 2012 respectively. Thomas Ho requested members to submit papers. All Visit QSD Members - Mr. Kelvin Kwong, Mr. Benny Lee and Mr. Bruno Yim QSD Council Meeting (3 April 2012) 2 of 14 The Hong Kong Institute of Surveyors Quantity Surveying Division Minutes of the 4th Council Meeting (Year 2011 – 2012) 3.7 Ricky Chan is still contacting the family of Kelvin Kwong, who had experienced serious sickness, to arrange members of the QSD Council to visit Kelvin Kwong. Ricky Chan Thomas Ho, Keith Yim and Ricky Chan visited Benny Lee, who had received a liver transplant, on 17 March 2012. It is encouraging to see that his health condition is good and hoped that he can fully recover soon. Noted Our QSD member, Bruno Yim, has suffered lung cancer and he is now in a very critical condition. Bruno Yim was baptized a few days ago and is now a Christian. Members are requested to see him and pray for him. Noted Manpower Survey of VTC Website See reports from Sub-committees / Committees / Task Forces of QSD – Item 7.13. 3.8 3.9 3.10 Charitable Fund Thomas Ho suggested in the last meeting that QSD should set up charitable fund to take care of QSD members. Thomas Ho would take lead to look into the matter and invite Thomas Tse to assist as he had experience in charity fund matter in HKCA. Thomas Ho Eric Chung was requested to check whether QSD’s constitution would allow QSD to set up the said charity fund. Eric Chung FIG Congress – QSD Representative Thomas Ho had circulated the HKIS funding guidelines and the funding proposal for this year’s FIG Congress for members of the QSD Council for information. Noted Tzena Wong will join the FIG Congress and present paper this year. Thomas Ho advised that Tzena Wong’s position to join FIG Congress this year will be representing HKIS and she will be funded by GC. Noted Research Project – Independent Role of QS in Infrastructure Projects The questionnaire for the research project “Independent Role of QS for Engineering Projects” prepared by the researcher, Dr. Ellen Lau of City U, was circulated to members of the QSD Council for comment. Thomas Ho requested members of the QSD Council to submit their comments as soon as possible. 4.0 Noted Chairman’s Report on Executive Committee / General Council Meeting Thomas Ho advised that the 3rd E C Meeting / 2nd G C Meeting were held on 22 March 2012. The major issues discussed in the EC Meeting / GC QSD Council Meeting (3 April 2012) 3 of 14 All The Hong Kong Institute of Surveyors Quantity Surveying Division Minutes of the 4th Council Meeting (Year 2011 – 2012) Meeting included the following :1. BoPD suggested to organize expert training at GC level instead of divisional. Members of the QSD Council voiced out in the meeting that QSD had no objection for BoPD to arrange expert training courses. However, QSD considered that it should be the duty of DRC but not BoPD to consider to maintain a list of expert witness or not. Thomas Ho will contact Antony Man to see the progress of the Task Force on expert witness for QSD. 2. QSD budget for 2011 - 2012 was approved by GC. Noted 3. A List of members with outstanding subscription 2011 – 2012 was tabled. Those members with outstanding subscription would be expunged after 31 March 2012 as approved by GC. Noted 4. EC urged for the completion of Maintenance Contract. (See Matters Arising from Last Meeting – Item 3.1) Noted 5. Review of “Guidelines on Nomination” and “Guidelines on Control and Charges For HKIS Promotion Channels” were discussed. (See Items for Discussion – Items 8.5 and 8.6) Noted The 4th EC Meeting and 3rd General Council Meeting will be held on 26 April 2012 and 24 May 2012 respectively. Noted It was confirmed in the previous meetings that QSD should retrieve all the papers from the presenters who were sponsored by QSD for the conference and then upload the same to the HKIS QSD website. The QSD Council would request them to present the paper again in Hong Kong. In the event that he /she would not agree to present the paper again, then the QSD Council would not sponsor him /her again for joining the next conference. Thomas Ho will forward last year’s PAQS report to K L Wong to follow with those speakers, including Peter Yuen. Thomas Ho / K L Wong 5.0 Items for Nomination / Confirmation 5.1 Nomination to HKIS Boards / Committees / Working Groups K L Wong presented an updated list of Nomination to HKIS Boards / Committees / Working Groups. 5.2 Noted Nomination to HKGBC Green Labeling Committee 2012-2013 (Co-opted Member) No members of the QSD Council had expressed interest to be nominated by QSD as Co-opted Member of HKGBC Green Labeling Committee 2012 – 2013. 5.3 Thomas Ho / Antony Man Nomination to Task Force on Purchase Notice – HKIS PASC QSD Council Meeting (3 April 2012) 4 of 14 Noted The Hong Kong Institute of Surveyors Quantity Surveying Division Minutes of the 4th Council Meeting (Year 2011 – 2012) Spencer Kwan was nominated as QSD representative for the above Task Force. 5.4 Nomination to Join GPD Land Supply Working Group Thomas Ho was nominated as QSD representative for the above Working Group. 5.5 It was confirmed that Thomas Ho and K C Tang would continue to be QSD representives as Co-opted Members for CIC Committee on Procurement and Sub-contracting respectively. Noted T T Cheung confirmed that he would not continue to be QSD representative as Co-opted Member for CIC Committee on Environment and Technology. T T Cheung proposed to invite either Anita Liu or Kenneth Poon to represent. Thomas Ho will follow this nomination. Thomas Ho Reports from Representatives of Boards / Committees / Working Groups / Task Forces 6.1 Board of Education (BoE) Raymond Kam reported that the draft Rules and Guides for the new APC Scheme will be circulated to members of the QSD Council for comment soon. The same will also be provided to ACQS for their information. Raymond Kam No comments were received from Council Members in respect of the draft PAQS Report on Massey University for accreditation. Massey University’s application for accreditation was endorsed for opt-in in the meeting. Noted Board of Membership (BoM) Members of the QSD Council had commented on the issue of promoting the number of Fellows for HKIS. Having discussed in the meeting, QSD supported to promote the number of Fellows for HKIS. 6.3 6.4 Noted Nominations to CIC Committee on (i) Procurement, (ii) Environment and Technology and (iii) Sub-contracting ( Co-opted Members) 6.0 6.2 Noted Noted Board of Professional Development (BoPD) The artwork of membership card with barcode was commented by members of the QSD Council. Noted No comments were received from members of the QSD Council in respect of the HKCPS’s draft proposal on Cross Profession CPD Programme Sharing. Noted Public and Social Affair Committee QSD Council Meeting (3 April 2012) 5 of 14 The Hong Kong Institute of Surveyors Quantity Surveying Division Minutes of the 4th Council Meeting (Year 2011 – 2012) 6.5 No comments were received from members of the QSD Council in respect of the powerpoint template for promotion of HKIS. Noted No comments were received from members of the QSD Council in respect of the corporate videos (versions close to final). Noted Research Committee M Y Leung is now following up the research proposal 2011 - 2012 with H F Leung on the topic of the Standard Form of Building Contract. Having discussed in the meeting, it was confirmed to call for research proposal from all QSD members instead of just considering H F Leung’s proposal. Thomas Ho will follow up with M Y Leung. 6.6 IT Committee Tzena Wong had provided an update to Thomas Ho and K L Wong on the administration of the QSD webpage. Tzena Wong will set up the discussion forum in April 2012 for QSD Council. Thomas Ho and K L Wong will further discuss with Tzena Wong for the use of the QSD webpage. 6.7 6.8 Thomas Ho / Tzena Wong / K L Wong HKIS Office Premises Working Group The deadline for expression of interest for design and project management service for HKIS office fitting out works was due and assessment is being carried out. Noted Invitation for recommendation of alternative office premises is being sought from all members. Noted CIC Task Force on River Sand and Substitutes Research K L Wong presented the draft Minutes No. 001/12 (2 March 2012) of the above Task Force. 6.9 Thomas Ho / M Y Leung Noted CIC Task Force on Competition Law Spencer Kwan had reflected the impact of the competition law on fee scale, Standard Form of Contract, share of industry information and competition tendering, etc. in the above Task Force. Spencer Kwan advised that he will submit the report in April 2012 for QSD’s assessment of the impact. 7.0 Reports from Sub-committees / Committees / Task Forces of QSD 7.1 BIM Sub-Committee 4 training classes; BIM Revit Architecture (2 classes) and BIM Revit MEP (2classes); were held in March 2012. More in-depth training courses will QSD Council Meeting (3 April 2012) 6 of 14 Spencer Kwan Noted The Hong Kong Institute of Surveyors Quantity Surveying Division Minutes of the 4th Council Meeting (Year 2011 – 2012) be organized. 7.2 7.3 BIM Email Broadcast No.1 was sent on 7 March 2012. 2 BIM talks had been organized in April and May 2012. Further BIM talks / workshops will be organized. Noted The terms of reference of the Sub-committee should be expanded from promotion and training to use and application of BIM. Noted Julia Gao had some experience in BIM management guidelines in the USA. Julia Gao volunteered to do some literature review. Julia Gao K C Tang proposed to compile a list of links of good tutorial videos of BIM on Youtube and inform general members of such links. K C Tang CPD Sub-Committee K L Wong presented an updated QSD CPD Event Summary (with the nos. of applicants). K L Wong also reported that the Sub-committee had confirmed and planned about 40 CPD events, including talks / workshops / training classes (16 already confirmed) and site / factory visits (5 already confirmed) for the year of 2012. Noted K L Wong pointed out in the previous meeting that QSD would earn a lot from CPD events this year due to the increased nos. of CPD events. K L Wong would solicit suggestions from members of the QSD Council to make good use of QSD income received from CPD events; such as to reduce the fee of CPD events, to send CPD coupons to general members, and to allow University students to attend CPD events free of charge. K L Wong Contract Sub-committee Daniel Ho advised that Don Reader would summarise all proposed amendments to the Standard Form of Building Contract (with quantities) 2005 by the end of March 2012. Prior to legal vetting, the proposed amendments would then be forwarded to the other parties of the Joint Contract Committee viz HKIA and HKICM for comment by the end of April 2012. 7.4 7.5 Don Reader Divisional Education Committee Thomas Ho had arranged ACQS to meet with Raymond Kam for briefing and discussing the proposed APC Reform. Raymond Kam K L Wong had sent email to Council Members to seek their comments on the proposed APC Reform by 7 March 2012. Raymond Kam had incorporated members’ comments into the proposed APC Reform. Noted Research Sub-Committee No report was submitted. QSD Council Meeting (3 April 2012) Noted 7 of 14 The Hong Kong Institute of Surveyors Quantity Surveying Division Minutes of the 4th Council Meeting (Year 2011 – 2012) 7.6 Fee Scale Sub-Committee Sandy Tang reported that the research project “A Review on the Scale of Professional Charges for QS Services” was still in progress. A brief update will be provided in the next meeting. 7.7 7.8 International Sub-Committee No reported was submitted in this meeting. Noted The schedules for International Conference / Congress are as follows :- Noted 1. The PAQS 2013 Conference will be held in Xian, China in May 2013. 2. The ICEC World Congress will be held in June in South Africa. Liaison Sub-Committee No report was submitted. 7.9 Noted Mainland Sub-Committee No report was submitted. 7.10 Noted New Members Welcoming Party Organising Committee QSD New Members Welcoming Party was held on 17 February 2012. No further report will be required. 7.11 Noted PAQS 2014 Congress Organising Committee Francis Leung suggested the following in respect of the PAQS congress for comment :1. Venue : To Add Langham Place to “longlist”. 2. Guest of Honor : To invite Mr. C Y Leung (Chief Executive-Elect) A conference organizer would be employed. Francis Leung would let GC have a brief budget soon. To start the ball rolling, Francis Leung would like to seek volunteer to co-ordinate the employment of a conference organizer. 7.12 Sandy Tang All Francis Leung Professional Practice / Practice Note Sub-committee Raymond Kong updated the progress of the Sub-committee in respect of the final draft of the Practice Notes as follows : QSD Council Meeting (3 April 2012) 8 of 14 Raymond Kong The Hong Kong Institute of Surveyors Quantity Surveying Division Minutes of the 4th Council Meeting (Year 2011 – 2012) 1. To conclude the final draft in the 2nd quarter of 2012. 2. To arrange for uploading the Practice Notes to the HKIS website by June 2012. 3. To collect comments received subsequent to the launch of the softcopy of the Practice Notes and consider whether to have hardcopy of the Practice Notes 6 months therefrom. 4. To prepare Practice Notes in related to Cost Planning and Estimating this year. Raymond Kong was requested to prepare (i) funding proposal for GC’s approval, and (ii) proposal of the design, launching, and promotion of the Practice Notes (e.g. via HKCA Forum). 7.13 7.14 Raymond Kong Professional Sustainability Sub-Committee Spencer Kwan advised that he will submit the report in April 2012. Spencer Kwan Daniel Ho advised in the previous meeting that the salary of quantity surveyor shown in the manpower survey of the VTC website is much lower than building surveyor. Daniel Ho had forwarded the link of the said website to members of the QSD Council. Spencer Kwan will follow and suggest the ways to attract more people to work as quantity surveyors. Spencer Kwan Promotion Sub-Committee Joseph Chong and Steven Tang reported the following : 1. Scholarships Letters had been issued to the sponsors to inform which course their sponsorship will go to. The universities were expected to submit nominations by the end of March 2012. Both City U and HKU already submitted the nominations. HKIS office is still chasing HKU for nominations. All the nominations will be sent to QSD for screening. 2. Visits to Secondary School Joe Wu visited New Asia Middle School on 28 March 2012. Steven Tang would arrange for visits to some other secondary schools starting from 2nd quarter of 2012. 3. Joseph Chong Noted Steven Tang Visits to Universities Visits to City U and Poly U were conducted on 29 March and 3 April QSD Council Meeting (3 April 2012) 9 of 14 Noted The Hong Kong Institute of Surveyors Quantity Surveying Division Minutes of the 4th Council Meeting (Year 2011 – 2012) 2012 respectively. 4. Visits to IVE Visit to IVE (Morrison Hill Campus) for all levels of Higher Diploma in Surveying had been scheduled for 18 April 2012. 5. Promotion Materials The powerpoint and standard descriptions to introduce QS will be sent out by 7 April 2012. 7.15 Noted SMM Review Sub-Committee No report was submitted. 7.17 Noted Social & Welfare Sub-Committee Tzena Wong requested members of the QSD Council to suggest any events and the purpose of the events for consideration. Sunny Chan promised to talk with Tzena Wong to suggest the events. 7.18 7.19 Joseph Chong Public Affairs Sub-Committee No report was submitted. 7.16 Joseph Chong Tzena Wong / Sunny Chan Training Sub-committee Sunny Chan presented a Summary of proposed Pre-qualification Structured Learning (PQSL) 2012 – 2013 for QSD APC. Noted Advanced Course on Standard Form of Building Contract 2005 by Mr. Bernard Wu will be conducted in October 2012. Noted QSD Annual Dinner Organising Committee K L Wong reported the progress of the QSD Annual Dinner 2012 as follows : 1. Venue : Royal Plaza Hotel Grand Ballroom 2. Time : 25 May 2012 (Friday) 3. Menu : Menu I circulated to members of the QSD Council earlier 4. Guest of Honor : Proposed to invite Bernard Chan (as 1st priority) or Marco Wu (as Wai Chi Sing has declined to join the dinner) 5. No. of Tables : 30 (tentatively); currently verbally confirmed tables QSD Council Meeting (3 April 2012) 10 of 14 K L Wong The Hong Kong Institute of Surveyors Quantity Surveying Division Minutes of the 4th Council Meeting (Year 2011 – 2012) are 29 6. MC : Female Artist 7. Performers : Artists and others (not from QSD) 8. Budget : Self-financing 9. Other matters such as Chairman’s speech, lucky draws, table prizes, dinner brochures, wine, souvenir, rundown, guests list, table arrangement, invitation letters, backdrop, helpers, photo slides, best candidate presentation, etc. are being organized. These will be updated in the coming 3rd QSD Annual Dinner 2012 OC meeting scheduled for 10 April 2012. Thomas Ho was requested to prepare the Chairman’s Speech by the end of April 2012 so as the meet the deadline for publication of the same on the dinner brochure. 7.20 7.21 Task Force on Free QS Service to Community Joe Wu advised that he will draft a roadmap or proposal for the above new Task Force for further discussion after Easter holiday. Joe Wu Other members are requested to express their interest to join the above Task Force. All Task Force on the use of NEC Contract in Hong Kong K L Wong advised that more CPD events in relation to NEC Contract would be organized. K L Wong Thomas Ho would invite Daniel Ho, Bernard Wu, Chris Fung, Gilbert Kwok and T T Cheung to join the above new Task Force. The short terms of reference should be set by the Task Force. Thomas Ho 8.0 Items for Discussion 8.1 Members for QSD Sub-committees / Committees and Year Plan 2012 K L Wong reported that some members had enquired that no person had contacted them to attend meeting for their joined Sub-committees / Committees / Task Forces. Thomas Ho requested Chairpersons of each QSD Sub-committees / Committees / Task Forces to prepare their revised Year Plan, if required, and lead their members of respective Subcommittees / Committees / Task Forces to work in accordance with the Year Plan. 8.2 Thomas Ho QSD Financial Statement for February 2012 QSD Council Meeting (3 April 2012) 11 of 14 Chairpersons The Hong Kong Institute of Surveyors Quantity Surveying Division Minutes of the 4th Council Meeting (Year 2011 – 2012) Sunny Chan presented QSD Financial Statement for the month of February 2012. The balance of QSD account is $1,728,547.13 as at February 2012. 8.3 HKIS Annual Conference 2012 Antony Man had circulated the note of meeting of the 1st meeting of HKIS Annual Conference 2012 OC to members of the QSD Council for information and input. 8.4 All Surveyors Times Members had expressed their views on seeking legal advice from Hon. Legal Advisors before publication of the legal or contractual articles under the Members’ Corner of the Surveyors Times. Thomas Ho had reflected members of QSD’s concerns to GC. 8.8 All Guidelines on Control and Charges for HKIS Promotion Channels. Thomas Ho had circulated the “Guidelines on Control and Charges for HKIS Promotion Channels” to Members of the QSD Council for comment by 12 April 2012. 8.7 Thomas Ho Guidelines on Nomination Thomas Ho had circulated the “Guidelines For Nomination” to members of the QSD Council for comment by 12 April 2012. 8.6 Noted Divisional Secretary QSD supported to employ divisional secretary to handle QSD matters. QSD would like to pay for a full time divisional secretary to serve QSD solely. Alternatively, QSD would request for a divisional secretary from HKIS to serve at most 2 divisions. Thomas Ho would reflect QSD’s needs for employing divisional secretary to GC. 8.5 Noted Noted Sponsorship Proposal for QS Young Members to Attend PAQS Congress Joseph Chong presented a proposal for sponsoring QS young members to attend PAQS for comment. 9.0 Items for Information 9.1 HKIS Assessors for Green Building Award 2012 Joe Wu, Anthony Tam, Anthony Lau and Joseph Chong had expressed interest to be HKIS representative / assessor to carry out the initial assessment of the submission for the nomination of Green Building Award 2012. QSD Council Meeting (3 April 2012) 12 of 14 All Noted The Hong Kong Institute of Surveyors Quantity Surveying Division Minutes of the 4th Council Meeting (Year 2011 – 2012) 9.2 Community Forum – Greening Master Plan for Shatin (23 and 30 March 2012) No members of the QSD Council had expressed interest to join the above Community Forum. 9.3 Community Forum – Greening Master Plan for Yuen Long (13 and 19 April 2012) If members of QSD council would like to join the above Community Forum, they were requested to inform Thomas Ho and K L Wong as soon as possible. 9.4 10.0 All Subject Title K L Wong requested members of the QSD Council to change the subject title after changing discussion topic in the new emails and not to use wrong subject title / old subject title when sending emails for new subject matter. It would prevent to miss the important information due to wrong subject matter. It would also enable to retrieve information efficiently for conveying information with members. 9.5 Noted Noted Young Construction Discovery Challenge (YCDC) K L Wong had forwarded the sponsor package for the YCDC to members of the QSD Council for seeking more sponsors for the YCDC. However, no additional members had expressed interest to sponsor. Noted Daniel Ho requested more members to act as assessors for the YCDC Prize Presentation Ceremony on 5 May 2012. K L Wong would send the details of the Ceremony to members of the QSD Council for expression of interest. K L Wong K C Tang reminded that QSD should put promotion materials at the venue of the YCDC Prize Presentation Ceremony on 5 May 2012. Joseph Chong was requested to follow. Joseph Chong Any Other Business NIL QSD Council Meeting (3 April 2012) 13 of 14 The Hong Kong Institute of Surveyors Quantity Surveying Division Minutes of the 4th Council Meeting (Year 2011 – 2012) Prepared by: Confirmed by: Paul K L Wong Hon. 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