HP 12C Platinum Calculator
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HP 12C PLATINUM calculagator SIX TIMES FASTER than the Gold Standard, February 28,
2006
Reviewer: nmg1 (new york, ny) - See all my reviews
guys - if you are still planning on taking the CFA (or even if you're not) using an HP 12C calculator, i
emphatically recommend popping down to J&R (price match to wal-mart.com will save you $5) and buying
the new HP 12C Platinum for $79.99. It is a zillion times faster (well, 6X) than the regular one but otherwise
works almost exactly the samely. for example: i ran the following calculation simultaneously on the both and
used identical button pushes to achieve them, but the platinum was incredibly faster:
time in seconds
enter cmd Gold Platinum
360 n instant instant
6.625 g i instant instant
740000 PV instant instant
0 FV instant instant
running PMT 1.8 0.5
0i
running i 16.8 2.7
other differences:
pros:
faster (holy cow is it faster!!!!)
has backspace key (works okay, not super useful tho)
has undo command (this is real easy to use and comes in handy once in a while)
has algebraic entry mode (not just RPN) and parenthesis (both useless if you ask me)
has spot to scratch in your name on the back (cute)
comes with a nice hard leather protective holster (cheap quality though)
cons:
display doesn't blink with each key press to acknowledge entry - this stinks and is actually a very big deal!
screen doesn't look as nice (they used a standard calculator LCD instead of the awesome stylish one they
used to use - actually the new one's screen looks terrible when you put it right next to the gold one - the gold
had a GREAT screen and great font that was really easy to read and looked super classy. i will miss it very
much.)
feels & looks a little more cheaply made
keys labels are painted on rather than moulded into the plastic - looks like they won't last through years of
use
keys don't click as solidly. they're fine and you know when they've been pressed (which is tthe most
important thing) but they don't feel as wonderful to push.
so, all in all, the new one is crappier quality but so so much faster it is unquestionably worth it to get it.
I only wish it came in green so i could call it a calculigator.
BE WARNED - THERE ARE TWO VERSIONS OF THIS CALCULATOR AVAILABLE! one stinks and one is
awesome. make sure you don't get the stinky one - make sure it has the blue backspace key on the minus
sign - and the blue undo key on the divide sign (it is a low swoopy n-shaped arrow pointing down-left) there
is no different model number! mine has a sticker on the back that says CNA 51800093, but google tells me
nothing about this code.
0 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
I CAN ADD A 30 page Platinum Supplement to my book if you like, February 24, 2006
Reviewer: John A. Tirone (Macomb, Michigan) - See all my reviews
On my Professional Real Estate Problem Solving Using the HP-12C, as I am selling it through amazon's
"Marketplace" (see the webpage on my book) I can add a 30 page, GBC bound, HP-12C Platinum
Suppmenent if you like. (A) The Supplement simply shows all the programs in my HP-12C book in the exact
format as they will apear in a HP-12C Platinum. (B) If the book is ordered through the Marketplace--the
orders are sent directly to me by amazon--I'll e-mail/ask you when I get the order if you want the Supplement
enclosed with the book. If so, I will enclose the 30 page supplement, no charge. In any event I attach a 2
page HP-12C Platinum Supplement to my HP-12C Book; the 2 page Supplement makes it easy to get over
the small hurtle one faces when converting a program from HP-12C format to HP-12C Platinum "format". It is
really no problem one way or the other: It is quite easy.
In any event my HP-12C real estate book is Totally Compatible with the HP-12C "Platinum" calculator, and
any questions you may have you can contact me and I'll get the question/problem resolved. This is all part of
the nc support that I include with my books (actually the books are Labors of Love!).
John A. Tirone
1 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
Nasty but not cheap - AVOID, February 14, 2006
Reviewer: A. White "Bad Machine" (Australia) - See all my reviews
I had a 28S that survived my teenage years, high school, 7 years of uni, field work, dogs, kids, being
dropped etc. it lasted almost 20 years - in contrast my 12C Platinum has been looked after and lives in a
brief case - after 18 months the keys are so wonky it is no longer usable - HP cluelessly suggested buying a
new one would be a solution - if this was the price of a casio, I'd get it, but only because I dig RPN! This is
not like the HP of old - google around...
7 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
Great improvements to a classic financial calculator, February 11, 2006
Reviewer: H. Charlotte (Princeton, NJ) - See all my reviews
After returning my 17Bii+ because of keys not registering, I decided to make the 12C my main financial
calculator and learn it inside out. I have an original 12C, as well as a 17bii (no "+"). I like them both very
much, however the 12C data entry is so much faster because it is not necessary to go through various
menus to enter information. Once you get used to RPN things are a breeze. Now, the only things I missed on
the original 12C were 1) a little more speed in calculating, and 2) a backspace key (it is frustrating to enter a
7 digit number and key in one additional 0 by mistake and have to clear it and re-enter the whole number).
This is where the 12C Platinum shines (the second rendition that is) - it adds a backspace key and is clearly
faster than the 12C. It is amazing how these few changes can make life so much more enjoyable, especially
when you use your calculator almost every hour of every day.
There are additional features that some folks may like - an algebraic mode, an undo key, parentheses for
algebraic mode, and more programing memory. All in all HP has made a classic machine that much better Kudos to them and Kudos also for revising the original Platinum machine to address its weaknesses.
I definitely recommend this calculator.
3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
Speed is VERY nice! Thanks to HP for finally getting it right!, January 24, 2006
Reviewer: KHD - See all my reviews
I've now owned 3 HP12c calculators over the past 12 months and an HP 10BII!!! (4 if you include the 12c
software for Palm PDA.) You'd probably wonder why I'd rate the new HP 12c Platinum with 5 stars.
I purchased the "Original" 12c based on my mentors recomendation. I figured "It would be easier for me to
learn from him if we can both be on the same page." However, being new to investments (and not liking the
gold/brass look of the 12c), I opted for the 12c Platinum. It had the Algebraic options while learning the RPN
"stack".
While learning the investments business, I am also taking courses from the American College. They
"support" the HP 10BII. As my exam drew closer, I purchased it to keep the learning easier. I was suprised
how fast the $30 HP 10BII calculated things over my $90 HP 12c Platinum. It made me think if I really
wanted the 12c Platinum. The keys on the 10BII aren't that great, so I opted to input figures correctly over
speed.
Well, just tonight as I was looking for a real comparison between the HP 12c and the Platinum version, I
came across the reviews here, and went out right away and purchased the NEWER IMPROVED VERSION
of the HP 12c Platinum. I even ran the "calculation race" as suggested by another reviewer. FINALLY, A
CALCULATOR THAT I DON'T HAVE TO APOLOGIZE FOR IN FRONT OF CLIENTS!! I always hated that
"waiting" time while clients are looking at me saying in their heads "when is this thing going to give me the
answer!"
During the exams I'm taking, I was quite concerned with time and the time the HP 12c took in giving the
answer. I no longer have that concern.
As far as having the parentheses, I thought of the algebraic functionality like a standard "4-function"
calculator. I just didn't care, mind or miss it. The backspace key is very nice to have and that UNDO key also
gives me peace of mind as I continue to learn on my calculator.
BTW, to adjust the screen contrast on the newest HP 12c Platinum, hold the Orange "F" key and the + to
increase darkness or - to make it lighter. No other 12c has this capability and once it's set to the maximum,
there's little reason to make it lighter. (A useless feature)
UPDATE: I've just got to comment about the "HP feel" on my 12c calculator. I just received an HP 11c
calculator (made in USA). I NOTICE VERY LITTLE DIFFERENCE!! In fact, I find the older USA-built HP 11c
keys are HEAVIER and require a firmer press than the new models. Sure, the buttons are now "painted"
instead of "molded", but who cares?
I think people are testing the "HP feel" on store display models. Those store display models have been there
for YEARS - at least for the "Gold" version! You've got to try the calculator out of the carton, not the display
model.
8 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
I love my 12cp (version 2), December 22, 2005
Reviewer: CA or Bust (Los Angeles, CA United States) - See all my reviews
I've had both versions of the 12c platinum ("12cp")--the "older" one without the parens (sto & rcl keys), undo
(div key), and backspece (under minus key), and the "newer" version WITH the additional function keys.
Office Depot's prices are the same as Amazon's sale price. I originally ordered from Amazon, got the older
version, then a month later I checked in at OD and they had the newer version. I re-purchased a 12cp
through OD, then returned my older 12cp to OD.
The TVM challenge equation posted by another reviewer indeed took a ridiculously long time on the older
12cp. On the newer 12cp it takes 1-2 seconds. The programmability of the 12cp is vastly superior over the
12c "gold." I use my 12cp every day and it's been dropped, sat on, and water splashed on it, and it's survived
without any ill effect (neither cosmetically nor functionallly).
I love my machine. I highly recommend "Professional Real Estate Problem Solving Using the HP 12C" by
John Tirone (available through Amazon), even if you don't work in Real Estate. It's a great crash
course/workbook even if you're work outside the RE industry. I love my machine.
11 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
HP responds to early critics of 12cp?, November 8, 2005
Reviewer: Joel Buursma - See all my reviews
This is my first financial calculator purchase. I read that 12c was supposed to be "the standard" with a
fanatical fan base, but was surprised to see strong critiques of the 12cp vs. the classic 12c. Some of the
critiques are these:
- TVM function takes half a minute to run; took seconds on 12c
- No backspace or undo
- How can you have an Algebraic mode with no parentheses?
I e-mailed HP about these issues but received no answer for some reason. I got some info from the HP
Museum forum on the "old" & "new" 12cp versions. I walked into Office Depot, and the one they handed to
me had all these issues fixed. The parentheses are under STO & RCL, the backspace is under the minus
sign, and the undo is under the divided by sign.
So, at this point, can we agree that 12cp is, in fact, an upgrade to 12c (assuming that you've got the right
12cp)?
Anyway, it appears to be quite slick & well-designed, with an impressive amount of functionality. I was
surprised to see that people have used its programming functionality to create simple games.
20 of 20 people found the following review helpful:
Seems Pretty Good to Me - But Watchout for the "OLD" Platinum Version, October 12, 2005
Reviewer: E. P. Ratazzi (Rome, NY USA) - See all my reviews
I agree that the build quality on the Platinum is slightly lower than the original 10c series I remember from the
80s (keys and case seem more "plasticy"). However, everything else that matters about this new version is
positive. As far as speed goes, I can't really see any difference. I tried the interest rate calculation suggested
by another reviewer, and my 12cP returned the answer in about 1 second. How much faster do you want?
It's a CALCULATOR, not a PC!
Update: Because of the many contradictory comments here, I decided to do some further research on the
Platinum. For example, my 12cP does the TVM calculation specified by another reviewer in about 1 second,
whereas that reviewer was experiencing upwards of 30 seconds for the same calculation. Well, it turns out
there is a FIXED version of the 12cP out there that addresses this speed issue, as well as keyboard
problems, lack of parenthesis, and other issues. Unfortunately, there's really no way to tell what you're going
to get if you order on-line. The model number is the same and the only visible difference that I know of is
open/close parenthesis symbols on the STO/RCL keys. This should be visible without opening the retail
package. I'm guessing the poor reviews here are by unfortunate folks that have the OLD version, while the
positive reviews are being put in by us lucky ones.
11 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
Some things are better..., September 10, 2005
Reviewer: Angela "Edits" (Cambridge, MA) - See all my reviews
Yes, I read the bad reviews-- after I had ordered the Platinum. I recently misplaced my 15 year old 12c Gold
and was lost without it but was anxious about getting the Platinum since other Gold owners were so negative
on it.
However, I think it is just fine. First, it looks so much better (that gold is really outdated)-- that's worth the
price of admission for me (but I'm not a mahogany paneled office type either.) Then, I haven't experienced
the 'enter' key blip or the slow speed-- c'mon, there was always a delay.
But most importantly, no one has mentioned that they have fixed a big problem from the previous design-the fact that the soft case did not prevent the calculator from being turned on accidentally. I found this to be
the most annoying thing-- I would pull the unit out of its case all the time and it was on. The new case is more
rigid and addresses this issue.
2 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
Sharp new product, August 15, 2005
Reviewer: watchdog (webster) - See all my reviews
the new 12C is greatly improved in functions and with the new choice between RPN and Algebraic. The only
drawback is a bulky and stiff pocket carry case. the old soft case is much better.
Fantastic product, May 22, 2005
Reviewer: Sidmc "Sidmc" (Boston, MA United States) - See all my reviews
Despite the over-zealous negative reviews, I ordered this calculator and couldn't be happier!!! (I wonder if
they work for the competition?)
I am a business school student and originally started with the TI BA2 Plus, but was terribly disappointed, so I
switched to a HP calculator based on the recommendation of two professors...I am so pleased that I did!
This is a solid device and has not failed me in doing complex financial calculations. This is simply the best
calculator I have used and I encourage anyone looking for a workhorse capable of doing long, intense
calculations to buy it immediately! You won't be disappointed.
12 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
One more gripe, January 10, 2005
Reviewer: Bruce Baker (Falls Church, VA USA) - See all my reviews
Other reviewers have pointed out ways in which the 12cp falls short of the original 12c, so I won't repeat
those. My gripe is that the case for the 12cp is complete crap. It's stiff and horrible. It takes considerable
force to stuff the calculator into the case, whereas the old 12c case fits like a custom glove.
11 of 13 people found the following review helpful:
Very Disappointing...., December 23, 2004
Reviewer: Jeff Conn (Denver, CO) - See all my reviews
At first glance, this thing looks great. Nice, updated design, amd the color looks good. But then there is the
Enter key "bounce." The orange function lettering is almost impossible to read. Some of the TVM
calculations are slower.
It's great that they made the numbers on the display larger, but the display itself is DIMMER! Much harder to
read in certain light conditions than the 12C. What were they thinking when they designed this thing???
For $19.95 this device would be a good buy. But not at the $80 that I paid before I returned it.
Do yourself a favor. Pass this one by and get the good, ol' 12C
0 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
12C Platinum is Great!, August 24, 2004
Reviewer: Patches "Patches" (San Diego) - See all my reviews
12C Platinum is way better than what the reviews say. It's classy looking and has RPN AND algebraic. My
kid brother, who isn't too RPN, is already borrowing this. I keep stealing it back for its RPN features. HP just
needs to have these at the stores so that more people can view it, try it and buy it!
3 of 14 people found the following review helpful:
Supposed to be new, but was sent a used model, August 24, 2004
Reviewer: D in Tucson (Tucson, AZ) - See all my reviews
I purchased the HP12C Platinum. Was pleased with the purchase but felt cheated, since Amazon sent one
that was scratched, with a package that had been already opened - Obviously Used!!! My last Amazon order.
113 of 115 people found the following review helpful:
A half-hearted upgrade is BADDER than no upgrade at all, July 12, 2004
Reviewer: Let it Be "Alan" (Singapore) - See all my reviews
I have been using both the 12c Platinum (call it 12cP) and 12C for study and at work. I use the 12C gold
more often than the 12cP.
My biggest disappointment with the 12cP is its relatively slow processing SPEED vis-a-vis the predecessor
12C and its competition (the HP10B, TIBA2plus).
The 12cP is notably slower than the 12C especially when performing Time Value of Money (TVM)
calculations.
Running both HP12s side-by-side with the same data input, my 12cP has been consistently slower by 50%
as compared to my 12C.
If possible, I would suggest that potential users and buyers try this data set on both the 12C and 12cP before
buying. Clear register. Find [i] after input [PMT]=-1458;[FV]=0,[n]=84,[PV]=103600. The HP12C would take
20 seconds "running" while the HP12cP would take about 30 seconds to give the same answer [i]=0.4059!
This apparent lack of speed is difficult to accept for a supposedly latest financial calculator upgrade from any
manufacturer! It is a bad joke, considering that my 12 years old HP10B could perform the same TVM
calculation in just 2 to 3 seconds!
However,both HP12Cs are great value for money if the user consider the TOTAL solutions and free website
support and training which is available from HP. In addition, there are lots of literature and solutions written
by third party users over the still ongoing 20+ years production run of the 12C. IMHO,in addition to excellent
user support, the PROGRAMMING capability of the HP12c is the other major face saving advantage which
put both the 12Cs over its TI challengers for now.
The good people @ HP may like to know that 96% of my fellow students are now using their competitor's
Texas Instrument TI-BAIIplus! The BAII-plus is chosen for its 50% lower price and much faster processing
speed. The relative slower speed of the HP12c/12cP does not pull the crowds from TI, especially when
speed is much needed during stressful exams condition. A slower processing speed would also cancels off
the advantage of learning RPN.
After using the misnomer of a sucessor HP12cP, I personally feel that the 12C is still very much the industry
standard. However, it would be better if HP would consider incorporating some useful improvements like a
[BACKSPACE] key if it is technically feasible. Also, seasoned 12C users of the RPN would not miss the ALG
mode on the 12cP especially when it HP doesn't have ( ) included. The HP12cP is an odd ball ALG
calculator from this viewpoint. A suggestion to the dear good people at HP, please let future HP12C GOLD
upgrades remain as an exclusively RPN machine.
I would also be very glad if somebody from HP could highlight to me on which are the 10+ more (130+
total)improved functions on the 12cP as compared to the 12C (120+ functions) to help me justify the
additional price of 28%+ paid for the 12cP in Singapore.
Both my 12C/cP sets were "Made in China" by probably the same HP OEM to reasonably high HP quality. At
a glance, the HP12C gold apparently has better cosmetic finishing than the 12cP. In addition, the keys on
the 12C does feel very much better than those on the 12cP.
In a nutshell, the 12cP is more of "an alternative to 12C with ALG mode" than an upgrade or a sucessor of
the 12C GOLD. When choosing between the 12C or 12cP, it is wiser to go for the 12C the "good old" 12C or
12C GOLD!
Smart consumers who do not need extra memory for programming and the ALG mode, should go for GOLD,
buy the 12C GOLD standard until HP could produce a real and wholehearted improvement of the 12C line.
Thank you for reading my personal user experience with the HP12c PLATINUM.
10 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
Disappointingly poor quality HP product, July 11, 2004
Reviewer: "tperry31" (Miami, FL USA) - See all my reviews
The older HP12C model was a much better quality product. My "old" HP 12C finally died after 22 years of
use - one of the originals. I could not believe the poor quality of this calculator. I'll be surprised if it lasts a
year. It feels like a piece of tin. Everything about it is shabby worksmanship. If I had been able to first try it in
a store rather than buy it online I would never have bought it - and certgainly not for what I paid for it. I would
not have bought it even if the price were $10. Within seconds of operating this "new" HP 12c I new it was
junk.
2 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
not fernominal, July 9, 2004
Reviewer: mike gee (SD, USA) - See all my reviews
HP really dropped a bolock with this one. Well, lets see, my previous calculator had a receipt printer and I
could sit in my office and churn out tax receipts all night long, with this 'calc' I twiddle my curly locks in
wonder.
A. the keyboard is way too small. Its not easy to slouch back and fiddle your taxes in comfort. I like to
calculate while relaxing.
B. the display panel is way too dark. Whilst pontificating dollars and cents I like to see my figures brightly lit.
C. there are not enough numerical digits to calculate my massive bank account.
I would only recommend this Platinum model to those not serious about burning the midnight oil. Those old
chunky models are far superior and have paper. And why the orange and blue coloured buttons? This is not
how a calculator should look.
Not recommended for Mikey... HP should stick to manufacturing brown sauce
12 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
Say it ain't so, HP..., May 21, 2004
Reviewer: "fburgaz" (Atlanta, GA USA) - See all my reviews
I bought my first HP 12C back in 85 as a finance student and I haven't been able to use a different calculator
since. Over the years I've actually amassed a few more 12C's which I've kept at the office, home, etc.
When this new version came out I was really excited to try it out even if I had absolutely no reason to do so
by virtue of my half a dozen or so 12C's. I had to try it, however and I ordered it last week. For some reason I
didn't read any of the reviews (bad call) and boy did I pay for it!
The Platinum 12C is truly a piece of junk. More reminiscent of old Texas instrument calculators than of real
12Cs. Starting with the keys, you immediately get the sense of holding a much more cheaply made
calculator. The keys jiggle and they actually make a cheap plastic noise when you press them (whereas the
old 12C keys were solid and the way they pressed into the body of the computer made any HP calculator a
pleasure to work with), the feet are uneven so when you press the keys the machine actually moves from
side to side even on a flat surface. The display is a disaster - when you press lightly on it you get a ghost
image that lasts for a few seconds.
I must admit that I like the new look - sharp, modern, up to date. But the much cheaper manufacturing of this
calculator make the decision easy. Stick with the old 12C. You'll be sadly disappointed if you buy this
calculator.
I'm truly amazed that HP would actually launch this piece of junk knowing that this calculator has probably
enjoyed a more loyal following than any other product in their line. Why would they sacrifice years of loyalty
to save a few pennies. I don't know - maybe Carly is reading these reviews and will let us all know.
5 of 6 people found the following review helpful:
Why go "Platinum?", May 17, 2004
Reviewer: James R. Moon "crazymodem" (St. Petersburg, FL USA) - See all my reviews
The original HP-12C is much better and professional looking than this "improvement." Functionally the
difference is the addition of algebraic notation. However, HP differentiates itself from the rest of the market
because of the RPN way of doing math, so do we really need an update that looks so...cheap? Please, HP,
get your calculator designers from the 1970's and 1980's to come back out of retirement.
7 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
better than most, but far worse than older HPs, May 15, 2004
Reviewer: An electronics fan
This calculator is better than most other calculators, as one would expect for this price. if RPN is a must, this
is your choice. The keys are better than most other calculators, but far worse than what HP was capable of in
the past. There are some other quality issues (for example, the rubber feet come of too easily) and it is
somewhat slow by today's standards.
Bottom-line: if you own(ed) any of the older HP calculators, you will be disappointed by this one. If you don't,
you will probably be pleasantly surprised by it - especially if you stomached the reviews here. It is OK, but
just not great. HP quit pinching pennies and revive the old production lines!
better than most, but far worse than older HPs, May 15, 2004
Reviewer: An electronics fan
This calculator is better than most other calculators, as one would expect for this price. if RPN is a must, this
is your choice. The keys are better than most other calculators, but far worse than what HP was capable of in
the past. There are some other quality issues (for example, the rubber feet come of too easily) and it is
somewhat slow by today's standards.
Bottom-line: if you own(ed) any of the older HP calculators, you will be disappointed by this one. If you don't,
you will probably be pleasantly surprised by it - especially if you stomached the reviews here. It is OK, but
just not great. HP quit pinching pennies and revive the old production lines!
7 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
Better than what the reviews say, March 5, 2004
Reviewer: Spicy Tofu "booktalk" (Mountain View, CA United States) - See all my reviews
The platinum isn't that bad, but I do see some quality issues. I just got mine and the metal faceplate is
coming off. (The adhesive is not very strong.) The case is extremely tight and the twisting of the calculator I
think is causing the faceplate to buckle.
For the record, the orginial 12C is the exact same quality and form factor now. (i.e., even if you buy the
brown 12C new, you will get painted on numbers, not molded ones.)
6 of 7 people found the following review helpful:
Highly Disappointed -, January 19, 2004
Reviewer: Bud Koch "bkoch7" (CA, USA) - See all my reviews
I did not want to believe in the reviews. Well, I own 4 other HP calculators. They have always been of highest
quality and performance. BUT 12c Platinum is a major disappointment. Keys stick/don't work. It's slow... DO
NOT BUY this calculator. If you have to have it just buy the 12C Classic. There is no significant diff. in
feature set.
I would even recommend HP to pull the 12C Platinum off the market OR do a serious upgrade and recall all
12C Platinums since it is damaging the years of well earned reputation so fast that'll inevitably impact its
existing lines seriously... especially when the 'emotional branding' is everything !!
9 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
TERRIBLE, Don't Bother with this HP-12C, Stick with Original, January 12, 2004
Reviewer: Mark Perry (Grand Blanc, MI United States) - See all my reviews
Not an improvement at all over the the original HP-12C, it is much slower for solving for YTM or IRR. Try
solving for the YTM on a bond, it now takes about 36 seconds on the Platinum 12-C, versus only about 17
seconds on the original 12-C, versus only 3 seconds on the HP-10B. Totally unacceptable, DON'T
BOTHER!!! Buy the original 12C, DO NOT BUY THIS CALCULATOR, YOU WILL REGRET IT.
I love HP calculators, I own about 6 of them, but this is the WORST possible "improvement" in the history of
HP. Avoid this calcuator.
9 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
The Ford Pinto of financial calcs gets a facelift, November 16, 2003
Reviewer: An electronics fan
This upgrade of the 12C must have been released on April 1st. It maintains the relaxing speed and weird
rounding up of periods of the 12c, so the rule of 72 (at 10% interest your money doubles after 7.2 years)
becomes the rule of 80 when solving for the # of periods. Best of all, they decided to add algebraic mode but
didn't include the parenthesis!
12C Platinum? Tinfoil would be a better name for it.
6 of 13 people found the following review helpful:
A step backwards, August 29, 2003
Reviewer: "mdh80521" (Fort Collins, CO USA) - See all my reviews
I've owned a 16c for almost 20 years now and I wanted to buy a financial calculator so I turned to the 12c.
Foolishly I bought the "latest and greatest" 12c Platinum only to find out that latest <> greatest. In fact, the
feel and performance were very poor.
6 of 14 people found the following review helpful:
Do NOT support this calculator, August 23, 2003
Reviewer: James R. Moon "crazymodem" (St. Petersburg, FL USA) - See all my reviews
Like other reviewers, I've been eagerly anticipating an "upgrade" of the 12c. This isn't it. It isn't an upgrade.
It's a downgrade...and more expensive.
HP, can't your engineers design calculators anymore? It doesn't appear that they can.
18 of 19 people found the following review helpful:
Slower than the "Gold" HP-12C, August 18, 2003
Reviewer: William B. Craytor (Pacifica, CA USA) - See all my reviews
The HP-12C is commonly used in appraisal work; in fact, it is required for most appraisal courses. So, that's
how I got started using it. Now, I have always found the "Gold" HP-12C functionally just fine, except that it is
very slow, especially on TVM functions. I was excited to hear that HP had come out with an upgraded
"Platinum" version. I bought it assuming it would be faster. But, I was disappointed to find out that it was, in
fact, slower. You'd think HP would have their act together after all these years. Maybe some other company
will come along and give us what we really need - a faster HP-12C. It would also be nice if they would add
trig functions and improve it's programmability.
79 of 81 people found the following review helpful:
Stick with the 12c, August 6, 2003
Reviewer: Mike (Kensington, CA USA) - See all my reviews
HP really dropped the ball on this one. The 12cp is poorly made and not worth the money. As was mentioned
before, the TVM functions are slower than the 12c. One would think that one of the design benchmarks
would be to at least out perform the 12c! There is also a bug in the programming side of the calculator, which
if you want more detail, is defined at some calculator websites. I was duped into buying the 12cp and, upon
opening the package, immediately noticed the poorer design. The numbers and functions on the keys are
painted on instead of being molded into the plastic of the key. I already have a key that is scratched from
accidentally dropping the calculator. Also, the "Enter" key has a bounce to it that gives a double click every
time I use it. This may be particular to my 12cp, but it is incredibly annoying and the 12c, which I have had
for years, works flawlessly. It may be slower, but stick with the "gold" standard and maybe buy an extra one
in case HP discontinues it. I gave it one star because they require that something be selected.
slower than a "gold" 12c, July 29, 2003
Reviewer: Steve S. Cho (Naperville, IL) - See all my reviews
for the record, i have the 19, the 17BII, and an older "gold" 12c. i was thrilled to find hp finally upgraded the
venerable 12c. about time they spruced up their cash cow and made it more powerful than the average
digital watch, right? i was absolutely stunned to discover that the platinum 12c is actually SLOWER than the
gold 12c on time value of money (TVM) calcs. trust me, i have been the subject of much derision at the office
for my re-dubbed "silver" 12c. i imagine for most of wall street, getting algebraic notation and losing what
sluggish performance it had is a BAD trade. certain TVM calcs that are instant on the 17BII (a calculator over
a decade old) takes 30+ seconds on the new 12c. shame on hp for continuing to abuse its captive audience
of finance professionals.
20 of 26 people found the following review helpful:
The Best 12C yet -- but it should have trig functions, June 23, 2003
Reviewer: Daniel K. Allen (North Bend, WA USA) - See all my reviews
I am an HP calculator collector and math major. I bought this to add to my collection.
They have improved the memory on this new HP-12C and added algebraic (a step backward in my opinion,
as RPN and the Enter key are superior to algebraic), but they should have added SIN, COS, and TAN and
the other trig functions to this updated version.
The keys do not have as good of feel as older HP-12Cs, but they are still in the decent category. Is this the
last new HP calculator? They have discontinued the great HP-48 series. Carly Fiorina is killing HP.
Acionistas processam HP contra
indenização de Carly Fiorina
09 mar 2006
http://www.opiniaoenoticia.com.br/interna.php?mat=2847
Dois fundos de pensão protestam contra a indenização de US$ 21 milhões paga à
executiva que foi despedida em 2005.
Os acionistas alegam que o valor excede um limite imposto por regras internas da
empresa. A HP comentou que considera a causa "sem mérito". Carly Fiorina, que presidiu
a fusão da HP com a Compaq, negou-se a comentar.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/08/technology/08hewlett.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=11418
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