Shawnee Planning Commission May 17, 1999 MINUTES The Shawnee Planning Commission meeting was called to order by Bob Mazza, Chairman, at 7:30 p.m. Present at the meeting were: Commissioners Bedora, Boettcher, Duckworth, Gentry, Jenkins, Mazza, O'Connor, Sawyer and Sheridan. Absent was: Commissioner Land. Also present were Paul Chaffee, Director of Planning; and Madeline Chaney, Associate Planner. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited. Item No. 1 Consider May 3, 1999, Planning Commission Minutes. PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION Commissioner Sheridan, seconded by Commissioner Bedora, moved that the May 3, 1999, Planning Commission Minutes be approved as written. Motion was carried 7-0-2, with Commissioners Boettcher and Duckworth abstaining. CONSENT ITEM ( # 2 ) Items listed under the Consent Items have been distributed to each member of the Planning Commission for review and study. The items conform to City requirements and staff has discussed conditions of approval with the applicant who is in agreement. These items are considered to be routine and will be enacted by one motion of the Commission with no separate discussion. If separate discussion is requested on an item, from either the Planning Commission or from the public, that item may be removed from the Consent Items and discussed immediately following the Consent Items. Chairman Mazza explained the "Consent Item" format as described above, then asked if there was a request for additional discussion on a consent item. There was no request from the public or the Commission, so the Chairman asked for a motion. PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION Noting there were no other comments and no deletions, Commissioner Bedora, seconded by Commissioner Jenkins, moved that Consent Item 2 be approved subject to staff recommendations. Motion was carried unanimously 9-0. Shawnee Planning Commission -2- May 17, 1999 Item No. 2 SP-24-99-5: consider request for site plan approval for a manufacturing facility at 8309 Cole Parkway. Request submitted by George Butler Associates for EVERSEAL GASKET, INC. EXPLANATION OF ITEM This was a consent item. The applicant requests site plan approval for construction of a new manufacturing facility at 8309 Cole Parkway, in Perimeter Park. The application is filed by George Butler Associates for Everseal Gasket. RECOMMENDATION Staff recommends approval of SP-24-99-5, site plan for Everseal Gasket, at 8309 Cole Parkway, subject to the following conditions: 1. The site shall be developed in accordance with the approved site plan; 2. Submittal of a full site plan will be required prior to issuance of a building permit for the proposed addition; 3. Prior to the issuance of a building permit, the applicant shall submit two corrected copies of the site plan to the Planning Department, and copies submitted for a building permit shall include the following: Dimensions of the driveways and curb return radii; Standard Detail 21-10 of the Shawnee Manual of Technical Specifications and Design Criteria; Re-labeling the southern driveway to clarify that it is intended to be a permanent entry; Building elevations shall be modified to note gray, rather than green tinted glass, in accordance with information supplied by the applicant; Typical details of the parking lot, loading area and parking lot curbing, demonstrating compliance with the Shawnee Manual of Technical Specifications and Design Criteria; and The summary parking calculation shall reflect the actual number of spaces, 87, rather than 86 as shown on submitted plans; Shawnee Planning Commission 4. -3- May 17, 1999 Prior to the issuance of a building permit, the applicant shall submit two corrected copies of the landscaping plan to the Planning Department, and copies submitted for a building permit shall show the following: Dwarf species shall be specified by height (6– 8 feet at planting) rather than caliper; The proposed ground-mounted HVAC units and proposed landscape screening around them; 5. Proposed driveway entrances shall be designed and constructed in accordance with Standard Detail 21-10 of the Shawnee Manual of Technical Specifications and Design Criteria; 6. The parking lot, loading area and proposed driveway entrance shall be designed and built in accordance with the Shawnee Manual of Technical Specifications and Design Criteria, and shall be constructed prior to issuance of an occupancy permit; 7. Prior to issuance of a building permit, the applicant shall submit four revised sets of grading and stormwater drainage plans to the Engineering Division showing the modifications noted in the staff report; 8. Drainage improvements within a public right-of-way or easement shall conform with the City's Manual of Technical Specifications and Design Criteria. Prior to obtaining a building permit or commencing any construction, the applicant shall obtain a Public Improvement Permit (Form C); 9. Fire hydrant locations shall be subject to the approval of the Fire Chief, and installed prior to issuance of a building permit; 10. All utilities are required to be placed underground; 11. Erosion control measures, as specified in the staff report, shall be undertaken and shall be indicated on the grading plans, to be approved by the Engineering Division. Erosion control measures shall be in place during all construction; 12. Open space fees in the amount of $ 4,268.93 shall be paid prior to issuance of a building permit; and 13. The site plan is subject to City Council review until 5:00 p.m. Thursday, May 20, 1999. SITE PLAN REVIEW 1. The applicant requests site plan approval for construction of a 55,000 square foot manufacturing facility at 8309 Cole Parkway, in Perimeter Park. Shawnee Planning Commission -4- May 17, 1999 2. The subject property is zoned PI (Planned Industrial), and is adjoined on the south, east, and west by undeveloped industrial lots in the developing Perimeter Park industrial park. The subject property is a corner lot, with frontage on both 83rd Street and Cole Parkway; property to the north, across 83rd Street, is also zoned PI and developed with industrial buildings in the Cole Industrial Park. The subject tract is a 5.44-acre lot platted as Lot 13, Perimeter Park, Seventh Plat, which was approved by the Planning Commission on April 5, and accepted by the City Council on April 26, 1999. 3. The proposed industrial use is in conformance with the Land Use Guide of the Comprehensive Plan, which anticipates development of warehouse/light industrial uses on the subject tract. 4. All bulk requirements have been satisfied. The proposed building is set back 115 feet from the 83rd Street right-of-way, and over 120 feet from the Cole Parkway right-of-way, exceeding the 50 foot setback requirement in the PI district. Side and rear building setbacks also meet code requirements. A future 15,500 square foot addition is shown on the north side of the building. The addition is shown to conform with the 50 foot setback requirement on the north frontage; submittal of a full site plan will be required prior to issuance of a building permit for the proposed addition. 5. The proposed building, like the other buildings in Perimeter Park, would have an exterior finish primarily of precast concrete. The precast panels would be tinted a “buff” color, and would have a sandblasted finish, which would lightly expose some of the aggregate in the panels. Openings would be provided at 12 feet above-grade at various intervals on all sides of the warehouse area, and would have a treatment of glass block. The office area, which would be located at the northwest corner of the building facing the street intersection, would be accentuated with a frontispiece that would incorporate a curved exterior wall on the west. Flat cantons would project from the west wall; an angled roofline, and an exterior treatment of maroon (Maroon #2 Velour by Yankee Hill) face brick and darker tan precast panels, would further accentuate the office exterior. Insulated “solargray” tinted glass windows, in “champagne” (light) colored aluminum frames, would be provided on the north and west sides of the office area. (Plan elevations note the color of the windows as green. Prior to issuance of a building permit, the plan elevations shall be modified to incorporate the note that the glass will be gray, in accordance with the information provided by the applicant.) A small smoking area with an exterior treatment similar to the office will be located at the southwest corner of the building. 6. Access to the property would be provided from two drives from Cole Parkway. One would be located on the north part of the west frontage and would access the Shawnee Planning Commission -5- May 17, 1999 customer parking area, and one would be located near the southwest corner of the tract, and would provide access to a second parking lot and the loading area. Parking and circulation areas are set back 20 feet from the Cole Parkway right-ofway, in accordance with parking setback requirements in the PI district. The driveway approach widths and the curb return radii appear to meet City requirements, but dimensions are not included on submitted plans. In addition, the site plan includes a label on the southern entrance which identifies it as a construction entrance, and is unclear that a permanent entrance will also be constructed at this location. The proposed driveway entrances shall be designed and constructed in accordance with Standard Detail 21-10 of the Shawnee Manual of Technical Specifications and Design Criteria. A typical detail of the approaches, and dimensions for the approach widths and the curb return radii, are not shown. Prior to the issuance of a building permit, the applicant shall submit two corrected copies to the Planning Department, and copies submitted for a building permit shall include dimensions of the driveways and curb return radii, Standard Detail 21-10 of the Shawnee Manual of Technical Specifications and Design Criteria, and re-labeling the southern driveway to clarify that it is intended to be a permanent entry. The applicant will need to obtain a Public Improvement Permit (Form C) for work within the right-of-way prior to the issuance of a building permit. Plans submitted for a building permit shall also include typical details of the parking lot, loading area and parking lot curbing, demonstrating compliance with the Shawnee Manual of Technical Specifications and Design Criteria. Proposed parking, drives, and loading areas shall be constructed prior to issuance of an occupancy permit. 7. Eighty-seven (87) parking stalls, plus four handicapped accessible spaces, are being provided, slightly exceeding the requirements for the proposed warehousing and offices. Staff would point out that the parking summary included on the site plan sheet is incorrect, showing a total of 86, rather than the 87 spaces actually shown on the plan. Prior to the issuance of a building permit, the applicant shall submit two corrected copies to the Planning Department, and copies submitted for a building permit shall reflect the actual number of spaces, 87. Frontage landscaping has been provided throughout Perimeter Park with Bradford Pears, which will remain in place. Additional Bradford Pears will be planted along Cole Parkway to meet the requirement for frontage trees. Additional open space trees are shown on the landscaping plan in accordance with City requirements. A combination of Sunset Maples, Autumn Purple Ash, Sweetgum, and Eastern Redbuds, will be used as open space and parking lot trees. White and Austrian Pines, and Norway Spruce, will be clustered around the loading area, to provide screening of the loading area from the street. A variety of foundation Shawnee Planning Commission -6- May 17, 1999 plantings and dwarf species, with River Birch and Clump River Birch, will be used near the northwest corner of the building to accentuate the office area. Staff would point out that the landscape plan includes an incorrect notation regarding the size of proposed dwarf tree species. Rather than 1½- inch caliper, dwarf species are required to be 6-8 feet in height at planting. Prior to the issuance of a building permit, the applicant shall submit two corrected copies to the Planning Department, and copies submitted for a building permit shall note dwarf species by height rather than caliper. Submitted plans indicate that all disturbed areas in required front, side and rear yard areas will be sodded in accordance with SMC 17.57.035. 8. The applicant has indicated that there will be no outdoor trash storage. Should a dumpster be located on the site at some point in the future, the applicant shall submit a plan for the proposed trash enclosure prior to its construction. The trash enclosure shall be constructed of materials to match the building, in conformance with the City’s Design Standards for Industrial Buildings. 9. Three HVAC units will be roof-mounted and screened by the roof parapet; three will be ground-mounted and placed on the east side of the building. The groundmounted units are not shown on the site plan or landscape plan. Prior to the issuance of a building permit, the applicant shall submit two corrected copies of the landscaping plan to the Planning Department, and copies submitted for a building permit shall show the proposed ground-mounted HVAC units and proposed landscape screening around them. All utilities are required to be placed underground, as shown on submitted plans. 10. The site adjoins 83rd Street, which is designated as a Minor Arterial street in the Circulation Element of the Comprehensive Plan. Road improvements for 83rd Street and within the industrial park were funded through a development agreement, in which the owner and developer of this property is participating. Therefore, the provisions of SMC Chapter 12.26 (Street Excise Tax) do not apply to the subject tract. As a minor arterial, 83rd Street is required to have sidewalks on both sides of the street. As noted in the approval of the final plat for the subject property, the sidewalk on the adjoining (south) frontage of 83rd Street shall be constructed in conjunction with the proposed building on this lot. 11. The site plan includes partial information regarding site grading and stormwater drainage. The conceptual stormwater drainage system proposed for this development is generally acceptable; however, Engineering staff will work with the applicant to resolve some minor design issues. Prior to issuance of a building permit, the applicant shall submit a revised grading and stormwater drainage plan which includes the following items: Shawnee Planning Commission -7- May 17, 1999 a. A preliminary drainage area map; b. The improvement plans for this subdivision indicate that existing drainage point X50 has a drainage area of 10.1 acres, a time of concentration of 15 minutes, a runoff coefficient of 0.8, and an accumulated runoff of 53.3 c.f.s. Given this information, the applicant is responsible for verifying the drainage area and time of concentration at drainage point 1 assuming full development of Lot 14 with a runoff coefficient of 0.8. The downstream drainage calculations will also need to be revised accordingly; c. A runoff coefficient of 0.8 or a composite number is needed for drainage point 3 assuming full development of Lot 7; d. The applicant is responsible for verifying the runoff coefficient used for the site, which appears too low, given the amount of impervious area created by this project, including the proposed addition. The applicant is also responsible for verifying the times of concentration used for the site, which appears too high given the amount of impervious area proposed for this project; e. The proposed building elevations show roof drains only on the east side. The locations of these drains need to be shown on the site plan. Engineering staff recommends that the runoff from these drains be conveyed by a private storm sewer, even if not required by the 8 c.f.s. Rule. The applicant should consider and address how runoff from the east and north sides of the building will be handled after the proposed addition is completed; f. The applicant needs to verify that the runoff from the parking lots will drain to either point 4 or 7, and not drain out the approaches. The applicant should also consider moving drainage point 8 west to a corner of the proposed parking lot. This would allow drainage point 7 to be moved closer to the north approach (similar to point 4); and g. Given that the south storm sewer will be a public improvement, the line should be kept to the south side of the drive. In particular, drainage point 2 should be made a curb inlet on the south side of the drive. Also, HDPE is not an accepted material for a public storm sewer. Drainage improvements within a public right-of-way or easement shall conform with the City's Manual of Technical Specifications and Design Criteria. Prior to obtaining a building permit or commencing any construction, the applicant will need to obtain a Public Improvement Permit (Form C). 12. Prior to issuance of a grading or footing and foundation permit, the applicant will be required to submit a revised grading plan to the Engineering Division that addresses the following items: Shawnee Planning Commission -8- May 17, 1999 a. Portions of the proposed grades along the south property line exceed slopes of 3:1. A temporary construction easement will be required to allow grading on Lots 6 and 7; b. The proposed grading on the east side of the building is not correct; c. Some conflicting proposed spot elevations are also shown in this area; and d. Verify that all proposed contour lines have been correctly identified. 13. The site is subject to the provisions of SMC Chapter 12.24, which pertains to the maintenance of on-site stormwater detention facilities. Two detention basins, which are located just west of Cole Parkway, were platted as part of earlier phases of Perimeter Park. The detention areas currently function as siltation basins. Prior to the issuance of an occupancy permit for the subject site, the subdivision developer will be responsible for completing construction of these two basins. 14. Erosion control measures are required for all land disturbing activities. Therefore, a rough grading and siltation control plan is required for this project and must be included with the site development civil plans submitted for a building permit. The plan must accurately show existing contours at 2-foot intervals, details of area drainage and terrain, including identification of areas with gradients greater than 33 percent. The plan also needs to show finished grades at 2foot intervals, plus typical cross-sections for drainage channels, grading within public rights-of-way, and depth of fill material below or within 15 feet of a proposed building or structure. The rough grading and siltation control plan must show the proposed type and placement of erosion control measures, including phasing of installation. Also, standard details of any special grading activities and all erosion control measures and devices must be shown on the plans. The applicant is responsible for installing the erosion control measures prior to commencing any grading activities or immediately following the completion of final site grading as outlined in the installation schedule. The applicant shall maintain such measures throughout construction until vegetation is established over the disturbed areas. Engineering staff may require such additional erosion control measures in the field, including the construction of temporary construction entrances, diversion channels and siltation basins, at such locations as may be necessary to retain eroded material on the site. All disturbed areas must be covered with sod, or seed and mulch, immediately following the completion of final site grading. Such measures will be removed once vegetation is established over the disturbed areas, except those siltation basins that may Shawnee Planning Commission -9- May 17, 1999 be reconstructed per approved plans for use as permanent detention facilities. 15. The land disturbed for this project will be more than five acres, therefore, the applicant is required to apply for an Environmental Protection Agency National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System Permit (Construction Activity Form 1) from the Kansas Department of Health and Environment. The applicant is responsible for submitting a copy of the application to Engineering staff prior to the issuance of a grading permit and a copy of the permit upon approval by the State. 16. Open space fees in the amount of $ 4,268.93, based on the rate of 1.8 cents per square foot for industrial lots, shall be paid prior to issuance of a building permit, as provided by SMC 12.14. 17. All fire hydrant locations shall be approved by the Fire Chief and installed prior to issuance of a building permit. PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION Item No. 2, SP-24-99-5, site plan of EVERSEAL GASKET, INC., was approved as a Consent Agenda item, on page one. REPEAT OF CONSENT AGENDA MOTION: Noting there were no other comments and no deletions, Commissioner Bedora, seconded by Commissioner Jenkins, moved that Consent Item 2 be approved subject to staff recommendations. Motion was carried unanimously 9-0. NEW BUSINESS Item No. 3 THE FOLLOWING ITEM TO BE TABLED TO JUNE 7, 1999, MEETING: Z-6-99-5; PrePlat-29-99-5: consider request to rezone from AG (Agricultural) to R-1 (Single Family Residential) and preliminary plat for HIGHLAND RIDGE ESTATES, a single family residential subdivision at 51st and Old K-7 Highway. Request submitted by Payne & Brockway for Tim Hoelting, developer. EXPLANATION OF ITEM Planning Director Paul Chaffee explained that the applicant requests rezoning from AG (Agricultural) to R-1 (Single Family Residential) and preliminary plat approval for Highland Ridge Estates, a 110-lot single family residential subdivision located at 51st Street and Old K-7 Highway. Shawnee Planning Commission -10- May 17, 1999 The applicant has requested to table consideration of this item to the June 7, 1999, Planning Commission meeting. A copy of their letter is attached. RECOMMENDATION Staff recommends consideration of Z-6-99-5 and PrePlat 29-99-5, rezoning and preliminary plat for Highland Ridge Estates, be tabled to the June 7, 1999, meeting at the applicants request. PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION Commissioner Duckworth, seconded by Commissioner Boettcher, moved that Z-6-99-5 and PrePlat-29-99-5 be tabled to the June 7, 1999, meeting. Motion to table was carried 9-0. Item No. 4 SP-22-99-5: consider request for site plan approval for a temporary modular classroom at MARANATHA ACADEMY at 6826 Lackman Road. Request submitted by Larry Daugherty for Maranatha Academy. EXPLANATION OF ITEM Associate Planner Madeline Chaney explained that the applicant requests site plan approval in order to place a modular classroom/storage building on the Maranatha Academy school site. The application is filed by Dr. Larry Daugherty for Maranatha Academy. SITE PLAN REVIEW 1. The applicant requests site plan approval for placement of a modular band room on the western part of the Maranatha Academy site. 2. The proposed modular building would be located on the western part of the Maranatha Academy. The subject property is a tract of approximately 30 acres which is zoned AG (Agricultural) and developed with the existing Full Faith Church of Love and Maranatha Academy private school. It is adjoined on the north by undeveloped property, which is zoned CN (Commercial Neighborhood). Property to the west and east is undeveloped and zoned AG. The area immediately south is zoned AG and developed with an open air storage area for a pavement contracting business; the area further south, near the Midland Drive intersection, is zoned PMR (Planned Mixed Residential) and is being developed with an apartment complex. 3. The applicant wishes to use the proposed modular building as a room for band practice and storage area for band equipment. The building would have Shawnee Planning Commission -11- May 17, 1999 dimensions of 30 feet x 70 feet (2100 square feet), and a slightly pitched roof. Skirting would be placed below the unit to cover utility extensions. The applicant has indicated a preference to use a metal exterior; however, the Planning Commission has required T-111 vertical wood siding on other similar structures (e.g., Bayer). Because the ground slopes to the west, wood ramps/walkways would be extended to provide access at entries/exits on the east and the west sides of the building. T-111 vertical wood siding shall be used as the exterior material for the proposed modular building. 4. All bulk requirements have been satisfied. The building would be located west of (behind) the educational wing of the existing building, and several hundred feet from perimeter property lines. The building would be located on an unpaved area located between existing parking lot pavement on the west side of the building. No additional parking would be needed for the proposed building, which would be ancillary to the existing school use. 5. Mechanical equipment for the proposed building is not shown. However, it is anticipated that none would be visible from adjoining properties or rights-of-way. 6. Modular buildings may be allowed for a period of up to two years, subject to Planning Commission approval. The applicant has indicated that they desire to use the proposed building for approximately three (3) years. However, temporary structures are allowed only for a period of up to two (2) years. At that time, the applicant would have the option of requesting a renewal from the Planning Commission, or removing the structure. 7 The site is subject to the provisions of SMC Chapter 12.24, which pertains to the maintenance of on-site stormwater detention facilities. The applicant will be required to pay the detention fee of $ 5,000 per acre of impervious surface created by the project prior to issuance of footings and foundations. The applicant will be responsible for providing a figure for the amount of impervious area created to the Engineering Division. 8. In accordance with SMC 15.56, a moving permit is required for the proposed structure. The applicant will need to contact the Codes Department regarding the requirements for the moving permit. In addition, the applicant will be required to provide a Certificate of Approval from a certifying agency, and provide certification from a Professional Engineer regarding the supporting structures for the proposed modular building. As is typical of all new construction, a registered architect will need to certify ADA compliance. 9. The proposed addition is minor in scale, therefore, open space fees are not applicable. 10. Applicable alarm and fire suppression requirements shall be approved by the Fire Chief and installed prior to issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy. Shawnee Planning Commission -12- May 17, 1999 RECOMMENDATION Staff recommends approval of SP-22-99-5, site plan for a proposed temporary classroom at Maranatha Academy, subject to the following conditions: 1. The proposed structure may remain in place for a period of up to two (2) years, until May 17, 2001. The applicant would have the option of requesting a renewal of the temporary permit at that time; 2. T-111 vertical wood siding shall be used as the exterior material for the proposed modular building; 3. The applicant shall obtain a moving permit and all other applicable permits required by the Building Code; 4. The applicant shall pay the applicable detention fee, at the rate of $5,000 per impervious acre created, in accordance with SMC 12.24. The applicant will be responsible for providing a figure for the amount of impervious area created to the Engineering Division; 5. Applicable alarm and fire suppression requirements shall be approved by the Fire Chief and installed prior to issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy; and 6. The site plan is subject to City Council review until 5:00 p.m. Thursday, May 20, 1999. Mrs. Chaney stated that the applicant has agreed to the T-111 siding. QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSION Chairman Mazza thought there was already a modular unit there for a short term and asked the applicant if there were any other modular units on the property. The applicant responded that there is a small trailer in the back of the building that they use for P.E. classes. PUBLIC DISCUSSION Representing the applicant, Larry Daugherty stated that they needed the temporary space and agreed to staff’s recommendations. No one spoke in opposition. Shawnee Planning Commission -13- May 17, 1999 PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION There being no further discussion, Commissioner Duckworth, seconded by Commissioner Sawyer, moved for approval of SP-22-99-5, site plan for Maranatha Academy, subject to staff recommendations. Motion was carried 9-0. Item No. 5 SP-23-99-5: consider request for site plan approval for film wave graphic murals at BLOCKBUSTER VIDEO at 5542 Hedge Lane Terrace. Request submitted by Steve Harper for Oak Valley, LLC. EXPLANATION OF ITEM Planning Director Paul Chaffee explained that the applicant requests approval for installation of a backlit mural to be attached to the wall at the proposed location of Blockbuster Video in the Oak Valley Shopping Center located at 5542 Hedge Lane Terrace. The location of the store is at the northern end of the retail building. Under current City regulations, the provision of such a mural is classified as a sign, not a canopy or architectural feature. Therefore, the Planning Commission has no authority to grant approval of this request, nor does the City Council. Staff is in the process of preparation of revisions to the sign code which will address this issue, to consider the placement of a mural directly attached to the building, does not contain any verbiage, and is part of a nationally adopted architectural theme. Further, the new regulations would not allow such murals to cover architectural features of the building. Although the plan presented could not be approved without the revision to the sign code, the applicant is seeking some sort of direction regarding use of the proposed mural prior to completing lease negotiations which are currently underway. The mural proposed has a wave pattern providing depth to the mural. It is proposed to be placed adjacent to the top of the widows which would require removal of the red metal canopies currently over these windows. Additionally the mural is proposed to be placed over the window of the north side of the building. The mural is backlit and is in various shades of blue. There is no verbiage on the mural, and the design pattern contains movie reels, cameras, lights, and the perforated edges of eight millimeter film. The mural covers 16 percent of the wall area of the eastern elevation, and six (6%) percent of the north elevation. Given that the proposed location is at the north end of the retail building, staff is more comfortable with the request rather than if the location has been in the middle of the shopping center. Shawnee Planning Commission -14- May 17, 1999 RECOMMENDATION Should the Planning Commission determine that the proposed modification to the Oak Valley Shopping Center retail building would be appropriate, and to give the applicant some direction regarding the use of this mural, staff recommends the following conditions: 1. The mural may not be installed prior to adoption of revisions to the sign code which would allow its use; and 2. In the event of closure of the Blockbuster Video location, the owner of the shopping center shall reinstall red awnings to match those removed as depicted on the site plan for Oak Valley Shopping Center. Mr. Chaffee pointed out the samples of what it would look like. QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSION Commissioner O’Connor asked staff to address how this doesn’t qualify as an architectural feature but is a sign. Mr. Chaffee responded that signs are anything that is designed to attract attention. A canopy is fairly specific; it hangs over a sidewalk; may be backlit or not, doesn’t have any verbiage on it. In this situation, it is just a panel that is flat against the building and not fitting the definition of the canopy. The panels are lit with the goal to attract attention. They are not integrally built into the building. Canopies are generally solid in color also, as opposed to an awning. Commissioner Duckworth wondered if we would be setting a precedent and what we would end up with if we allowed red, yellow, orange next to this one. Mr. Chaffee responded that it depends on if they are murals or signs. In the case of a mural, we would look at defining it differently than a canopy. There is no verbiage on the mural; it is just sort of a picture situation. We will look at an amendment that states that it is for a nationally adopted architectural scheme so some items would be built into the ordinance that would prohibit what Commissioner Duckworth was concerned about. Mr. Chaffee stated that in this situation, staff feels a little more comfortable as it is on the end of a building. He thought that if it were right in the middle of the building, perhaps there would be more concern. Mr. Chaffee clarified that the Planning Commission wouldn’t be approving the mural, but would only be providing direction as to whether or not to proceed. He added that there still needed to be some changes to the sign code before it would even be allowed to be installed. Shawnee Planning Commission -15- May 17, 1999 Commissioner O’Connor asked how long would it take to get the revisions in the sign code, if everything went according to plan. Mr. Chaffee responded it would be around the first or middle of July, given publication. Commissioner Boettcher noted that the affect is very little difference, to which Mr. Chaffee agreed. He added that you can’t paint pictures or signage on a building; you can paint a stripe that is part of the overall theme of the building itself. He said if they were to paint this blue, staff would probably be looking at whether or not they should do something where that theme would be carried throughout the whole center. He said Blockbuster is looking for some direction. He didn’t think that it was really that obtrusive. Commissioner Sheridan asked if the Blockbuster on Quivira had the red canopy. Mr. Chaffee responded no, they have more of the traditional design where they have the blue canopy. He noted that the red canopies are existing at this center. He said Blockbuster is proposing to take those down. He said the Planning Commission may prefer to leave them there to give that feature and suggest the wave be placed above the canopies Commissioner Sheridan asked if they were basically switching to the blue. Mr. Chaffee added that it would be blue with the design icon with the wave feature. Commissioner Bedora noted that the red was the shopping center canopies and the blue relates to Blockbuster. Mr. Chaffee responded that was correct. Commissioner O’Connor asked if the proposed sign code revision is just being undertaken to meet this particular plan. Mr. Chaffee responded no, that staff had about six or seven clean-up articles that need to be taken care of. It is an appropriate time and we were already starting to do some of those changes, so this would be one of the items that will be considered. It does not necessarily mean that it will be approved when the review is done, but it will be one of the items that need to be addressed. He said staff would probably see more signs in this manner than what we have seen before. Commissioner Sheridan asked Mr. Chaffee if he had actually seen a picture of this. Mr. Chaffee responded he had not seen one up, adding that this is Blockbuster’s new program. He said that he believed that after the first of June, Blockbuster would be requiring everyone to go to this scheme. Associate Planner Madeline Chaney stated that she had seen one of these in Austin last week. She said it looks pretty much like the picture, but there is a lot less contrast than the picture shows. She thought that it just looked blue. PUBLIC DISCUSSION Planning Director Paul Chaffee explained that the applicant was not present since they were just seeking guidance from the Planning Commission. No one spoke in opposition. Shawnee Planning Commission -16- May 17, 1999 PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION Commissioner Boettcher commented that as someone who continually regrets the continuous homogenization of our commercial buildings, he would vote for almost anything with color, within reason. Commissioner Bedora commented that he thought it adds to the building. He didn’t think that it is detrimental to the area. He didn’t think that the backlighting is going to affect anybody out in the neighborhood or be offensive. He thought it adds a soft-lit touch that is needed. He thought it is a positive. Chairman Mazza commented that he agreed, especially since it is the end of the shopping center, so it is almost like a freestand. He felt that it adds to the credibility of the request. Commissioner Sheridan noted that staff was seeking direction. Mr. Chaffee responded that he felt that staff had the direction from the Planning Commission, unless there were additional comments, adding that there is no motion necessary. Commissioner Jenkins commented that he was not really crazy about this. He was not against this particular one, but he was concerned about the overall backlighting, envisioning a strip in Las Vegas. He felt we would be going beyond signage, beyond awnings, with backlighting, making it flashy. He thought that though it may be attractive, it would be a departure from where we have been. He had reservations, not wanting to go “whole hog.” He wanted to consider each request on their own individual merits and the placement within the shopping center itself. Mr. Chaffee responded that the Planning Commission would get to see site plans come in. Commissioner Jenkins understood that, but he didn’t want to say carte blanche that the Planning Commission liked that kind of stuff. Commissioner Sheridan asked if it served any purpose as an awning or was it purely decorative. Mr. Chaffee responded that it is purely decorative, adding that is why it is a sign. He stated that the fact that it is as large as it is, the current sign code allows up to 5% of the wall area to be signed. So if we desire that the sign code change, so that a mural-type affect could be handled the same way as a canopy, then we could look at it. That is one of the other issues. Commissioner Jenkins commented that he believed that when we draft up any kind of a change to the sign ordinance, that it should take into consideration individuality of the particular site plan, instead of doing away with that kind of review, thereby giving the opportunity to the Planning Commission to determine if it is tasteful, or appropriate for the neighborhood. He didn’t think that would make it arbitrary or capricious. Mr. Chaffee noted that at the next meeting, proposed amendments and verbiage would be reviewed and then the public hearing would be on June 21st. Shawnee Planning Commission -17- May 17, 1999 Commissioner Sawyer commented that he would question how the Planning Commission could be consistent about it, though. As far as the businesses are concerned, do you let one business do this, but then the next business you don’t let them, you will be seen as being inconsistent if the verbiage isn’t spelled out for the criteria that they have to meet. He didn’t think that the Planning Commission wanted to be inconsistent. That it is on a case-by-case basis on how the Planning Commission happens to feel that night. That would be his concerns. He is not against it, thought he is not really for it, either. It looks OK. Blockbuster is Blockbuster, but he could understand if their national program is to go that way, they want all of their stores to look consistent; and he would think they would be back at the City if they approved that one of wanting to do something similar to the one on Quivira Road. Commissioner Boettcher thought that most shopping center owners have some control. Mr. Chaffee responded that was correct, adding that the shopping center owner also is supposed to enforce the sign standards which he had adopted. One of the conditions to granting a sign variance, which is seen with more frequency all the time, is that the developer has to send a letter saying that he doesn’t mind that the sign scheme be altered and not followed. He commented that he has yet to see a case where the developer really cares if the sign scheme is followed. Commissioner Boettcher commented that the owner tends to let anything happen. Mr. Chaffee responded that was correct, if it means that they are going to be able to rent a space. He added that he was not quite sure that the people, whom the developer says will walk if they don’t get the sign scheme, would really walk. Commissioner Sawyer commented that he can understand if you have a national program on how you want your business to look. If somebody doesn’t want it to look that way, they move on to some place that will allow them to have their look. Commissioner Jenkins commented that maybe that’s OK, too, sometimes. Commissioner Sheridan commented that she thought it would look great and she would love to have a Blockbuster in western Shawnee. She asked if this would be a light that was on for 24 hours. Mr. Chaffee responded he would have to find out from Blockbuster, but he thought it would probably only stay on during business hours. Commissioner O’Connor asked why this couldn’t be approved under the current ordinance. Mr. Chaffee responded that it exceeds the standards of the percentage of wall area that is covered, if it is a sign; and it is a sign, and until it is covered under the code somehow, we have to wait. He said that Blockbuster understands that. Commissioner Gentry asked if we would be seeing a lot more of these. Mr. Chaffee responded that is the intent of Blockbuster. Commissioner Sheridan asked if this was national as far as this being a new trend. Commissioner Gentry asked if this was specific to Blockbuster, to which Mr. Chaffee responded yes. He added that he believed in Blockbuster’s contracts for their new stores, they are going to have this written in and get Shawnee Planning Commission -18- May 17, 1999 it as often as they can. He stated that there would probably be some conversions to other stores if it is well-received. Commissioner Gentry commented that it is very dramatic. Item No. 6 SP-25-99-5: consider request for site plan approval for the construction of an open air contractors storage yard at 22005 West 83rd Street. Request submitted by Polsinelli, White, Vardeman and Shalton for BASKA FOUNDATION. EXPLANATION OF ITEM Planning Director Paul Chaffee explained that the applicant requests site plan approval for construction of an open air contractors storage yard at 22005 West 83rd Street. The application is filed by Curtis Holland of Polsinelli, White, Vardeman and Shalton, for Baska Foundation Company. SITE PLAN REVIEW 1. The applicant requests site plan approval for construction of an open-air contractors storage yard. 2. The site is zoned PI (Planned Industrial) with PI zoning to the north, east, and west of the site, and agricultural zoning in the City of Lenexa to the south. Surrounding development includes Terra Cotta Cast Stone to the east, NCS to the north, and undeveloped directly west. To the northwest is the rear portions of industrial properties that front onto Monticello Road. To the south, in the City of Lenexa, is the Kansas City Gun and Rifle Club range. The Land Use Guide of the Comprehensive Plan indicates light industrial/warehouse uses of the property on the site; at full development, the proposal would be in conformance with the plan. 3. The developer proposes to develop the 2.53-acre site in three phases. The first phase is proposed to be an open-air contractor’s storage yard, with no buildings on the site. Phase II, which the applicant proposes to develop in two years, contains a 4,000 square foot storage and office building and additional storage yard area. Phase III would contain an additional extension of the open air storage yard. No plans have been filed for construction of the building. If approved by the Planning Commission, all future phases must receive site plan approval prior to their construction. The proposed development schedule of the plan is different than has been seen in the past. Usually, a building is also constructed on a site in association with other improvements. The applicant desires to store foundation footing equipment and trucks on the site. Employees will report to the site to pick up necessary equipment for the day. Should the Planning Commission approve the site plan for the open air storage facility, staff suggests that the site plan be reviewed in two Shawnee Planning Commission -19- May 17, 1999 years in the event a site plan has not been submitted and construction underway on the office/storage building to determine the appropriateness of an open air facility. Mr. Chaffee added that the applicant has indicated there is a concern with review of the site plan in two years. The Zoning Ordinance does not specifically state contractors yards in the Planned Industrial district; however, similar uses are allowed and this would be the proper zoning district. Consistently in the zoning regulations, outdoor storage is discussed as an accessory use, inferring that there is some other use like an office on the site. The applicant has indicated future development on the site, and the review would provide a means for the Planning Commission discuss future development on the site if it has not been undertaken. Review of the application was based on future phasing of the project. Provisions are provided in the zoning regulations to allow for outdoor storage on a site for a two-year period provided it is fully enclosed. 4. The site is accessed from a private drive running south from 83rd Street. The same private drive serves Terra Cotta Cast Stone. No improvements will be required to the private drive due to its not being a City street, and the limited amount of traffic which will be generated at this site. The property is not required to be platted since the tract was in existence at the time the property was annexed into the City of Shawnee in 1986. 5. The applicant proposes to pave an eighty-foot by eighty-four foot (80’ X 84’) area with a two-inch asphalt surface with a five-inch crushed rock base. Tip back curbs will be used to direct water into the drainage improvements which will be constructed on the site. Additionally, the applicant proposes to place a six-foot (6’) solid wood fence around the phase one and phase two areas. Staff is of the opinion that at this time the fencing should be placed around the Phase One area only to discourage the potential for storage to occur within the fenced area but on unimproved surfaces. 6. The driveway entrance shall be constructed to commercial driveway standards. Private stormwater drainage improvements will be required with this project. Information regarding standards are as follows: (a) Stormwater runoff not exceeding eight cubic feet per second during a 10year storm may be conveyed by a drainage swale. Runoff exceeding eight cubic feet per second must be conveyed by a storm sewer. An open channel is allowed only when the channelized flow exceeds the capacity of a 72-inch concrete storm sewer. (b) The drainage system for this development must be designed to convey the stormwater runoff from a 25-year storm, except the overflow swales. Overflow swales are required over all storm sewers or such locations as needed to convey the excess runoff from the 100-year storm. The minimum low opening of any structure next to an overflow swale is Shawnee Planning Commission -20- May 17, 1999 required to be at least two feet higher than the flood elevation of a 100year storm. 7. (c) Energy dissipating devices, such as staked sod, geotextiles, riprap, etc., must be provided according to APWA criteria. All habitable structures must be built a minimum of 60 feet form the bank top (boundary for a 25year design storm) of any open (natural or improved) channel having a design capacity of 8 c.f.s or more (d) If stormwater runoff from adjoining properties is conveyed across the subject site, then that portion of the drainage system must be designed and built as a public improvement. The discharge point for an enclosed system must extend to the defined open channel (whether natural or improved). Otherwise, an off-site drainage easement must be provided between the property line of the subject site and the nearest point of a natural open channel or existing improved open channel. The receiving open channel must have the capacity to convey the runoff from a 26 year storm without negatively impacting structures next to the channel. If the receiving channel does not have sufficient capacity, then it must be either enclosed or improved. (e) Shallow channelized or sheet flows collected form impervious surfaces are nit allowed to drain into adjoining properties or public street right-of-ways. (f) All drainage easements provided shall meet City requirements and drainage easements must be separate from utility easements. The development is subject to the provisions of SMC Chapter 12.24, which pertains to the construction and maintenance of on-site stormwater detention facilities. The following standards will apply: (a) The proposed non-residential development is smaller than five acres, therefore; the applicant may comply with these regulations using one of the following methods: (1) The applicant may submit a report and calculations, prepared by a registered engineer, showing that no drainage inadequacies exist within 1,000 feet downstream of the development and pay a detention fee calculated based on $5,000 per impervious acre created by the development; (2) The applicant may correct the drainage inadequacies identified in the report, and pay the prescribed detention fee; or (3) The applicant may provide on-site stormwater detention. Shawnee Planning Commission (b) -21- May 17, 1999 If an on-site stormwater detention facility is required for this development that it will be designed according to the provisions of SMC 12.24 and the minimum design criteria as set forth in the Shawnee Manual of Specifications and Design Criteria, as provided to the applicant. 8. A rough grading and siltation control plan is required for this project and must be included with the site development plans submitted for a building permit. 9. The applicant is responsible for installing the erosion control measures shown on the plans prior to commencing and grading activities or immediately following the completion of rough grading as outlined in the installation schedule. The applicant is also responsible for maintaining such measures throughout construction until vegetation is established over the disturbed areas except those siltation basins that may be reconstructed per approved plans for use as permanent detention facilities. 10. The land disturbed for this project will be less than five acres, therefore, the applicant is not required to obtain an Environmental Protection Agency National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System Permits (Construction Activity Form 1) form the Kansas Department of Health and Environment. 11. Any utilities brought to the site and on-site shall be underground and the placement of any junction boxes shall be in the rear or site yard area. 12. The site is heavily wood to the east, south and west. Existing trees will provide additional screening n addition to the fencing. The applicant shall provide a landscape plan with Phase Two to provide additional plantings in areas where grading has occurred. The applicant has submitted a landscape plan for the front yard area along the private drive indicating the placement of five Acer Maples. The number of street trees provided meets code requirements, however the applicant shall submit a revised plan indicating that the trees will be of a two-inch caliper when planted, prior to issuance of any permits. RECOMMENDATION Staff sends this item to the Planning Commission with no recommendation. As discussed with the applicant, we have not provided approval in the past for a storage area or storage yard without some type of building improvement. If the Planning Commission is comfortable in approving this request with the conditions provided, this would be an appropriate location given that it is not visible from any major streets and is accessed from a private road in a location with an adjacent use which does provide a great deal of outdoor storage. The facility itself will be a low traffic generator. Staff recommends the following conditions to be considered by the Planning Commission in the event the Commission feels the use is appropriate for the site: 1. The site plan for Phase I shall be valid for a two year period. The applicant shall submit a site plan for Phase II of the project including the office/storage building Shawnee Planning Commission -22- May 17, 1999 for Planning Commission approval and obtain a building permit for its construction prior to July 1, 2001. Failure to do so will result in the Planning Commission review of the project and potential expiration of the site plan, and removal of asphalt, equipment and vehicles from the site; 2. The fencing shall be allowed only around the improved asphalt area on Phase I of the project at this time; 3. The applicant shall provide a revised landscape plan indicating the size of the trees to be planted prior to issuance of any permits. Required landscaping shall be planted prior to use of the site for storage of equipment or vehicles; 4. The driveway and approach shall be constructed to City Commercial Driveway Standards; 5. Final plans for all private stormwater drainage improvements, as outlined in the staff report, shall be submitted to the Engineering Division for review and approval prior to their construction; 6. Provision of SMC Chapter 12.24 shall apply regarding the construction and maintenance of on-site stormwater detention facilities. All preliminary and final plans shall be submitted to the Engineering Division for approval, prior to issuance of a grading permit; 7. A rough grading and siltation control plan shall be submitted for approval with the site development plans submitted for a grading permit; 8. The applicant is responsible for installing the erosion control measures shown on the plan prior to commencing grading activities, or immediately following rough grading as outlined in the installation schedule submitted to the Engineering Division. The applicant is responsible for maintaining such measures throughout construction until vegetation is established over the disturbed areas; 9. All utilities brought onto the site shall be underground, and all utility junction boxes shall be placed in the rear or side yard areas; and 10. Site plan subject to City Council review until 5:00 p.m. Thursday, May 20, 1999. QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSION Commissioner O’Connor asked why staff was reluctant to approve the site plan for a storage area without a building and what was the difference if it is otherwise acceptable. Mr. Chaffee responded none, but staff had just never done that before and wanted to leave it open to the Planning Commission to determine whether or not that was appropriate. He said that probably given this location, and with stipulations, if there was any place this was going to happen, this would probably be among the better locations for that to occur. He said he had no reason to believe that the Shawnee Planning Commission -23- May 17, 1999 contractor is not going to have a building up on the site within the two years, and we could approve temporary storage areas for a 2-year period, as long as they are fenced. Commissioner Bedora asked if we knew where the builder is currently officed. Mr. Chaffee responded that it is at 87th and Lackman, in Lenexa, on a piece of ground that a new subdivision is being constructed behind the Walgreen’s store and that was their family’s property. Commissioner Bedora asked about #9 about the utilities, if it was practical, in this situation, for utilities to be coming through the back of this lot with the treed area and the topographical. Mr. Chaffee responded that it was his guess since there is really no development on the south side, that the utilities will be coming from the north and from the west and there are some utilities already in the area for Terra Cotta. Staff just wanted to make it understood that they don’t put up overhead connecting lines and have overhead lines come into a storage yard. Commissioner Bedora noted the topographical area, with all the valleys and dips. Mr. Chaffee responded that it unlikely that it will come up. He pointed out Monticello Road’s right-of-way. Chairman Mazza questioned where was the back of this lot. Mr. Chaffee responded by pointing it out on the map. Commissioner Bedora asked if they would have to come into the back. Mr. Chaffee responded no, they would have to come to the front, noting that 83rd is about ¼ mile north of the site, then they would have to come down the private drive, which makes a turn into Terra Cotta. He pointed out the Gun Club and Monticello Road which continues in Lenexa. Commissioner Bedora asked where the utilities come in. Mr. Chaffee responded by pointing out where the utilities come in for Terra Cotta, pointing out the boxes as opposed to being placed in front of the fence. Commissioner Bedora wondered whether or it was practical, particularly how the land flows, making it difficult. Mr. Chaffee responded that there is some development up in there also. PUBLIC DISCUSSION Representing the applicant, Baska Foundation, was Curtis Holland. He said that Mr. Chaffee had set forth what they are doing. He said this is really a very small contractor’s operation. Mr. Baska has a basement foundation company. He thought that Mr. Baska had two trucks, one a panel and one a boom, most of the basement foundation panels are stored on the ground. The area will be all paved so they won’t have any storage off the pavement area. There might be a couple of trailers, but it is a very small operation. Most of his workers meet him at the job site. He does residential foundations so there is going to be little activity on the property itself once Shawnee Planning Commission -24- May 17, 1999 it is constructed. He set up an aerial, pointing out the site and surrounding area. He noted it is very rugged terrain. Mr. Holland stated that they agree to all the stipulations. He said there might be some reason to talk about the utilities. This property is heavily wooded and he didn’t know exactly where the utilities are, but they are willing to look at that. It is not a deal breaker for them. None of the conditions are deal breakers for them. It is fully their intention to construct an office structure on the property. He didn’t have a big issue about the timing because he thought that the applicant’s timing was that within the next year or two years, that will be constructed, so he is not having a big issue with that. Mr. Holland said that if he had an issue, it would be with respect to #2, and he and Paul Chaffee had talked about that. He pointed out where they had outlined the locations of Phase 2 and Phase 1. He said they would like to build a fence ultimately to where it will be probably in the end where their facility will sit. He said that Phase 3 will likely never be anything but ground; because given that this is a very small operation, they don’t need that much space anyway, and it costs a lot of money to pave all the way out there. So they are not likely to do that. He said their fence will probably end right where Phase 2 line is and his only issue with this particular stipulation is that they don’t want to move the fence again after they build it; and under Mr. Chaffee’s scenario, they would build the fence and then have to pick it up and move it a couple of hundred feet in two short years. He was trying to avoid, for his client, that financial burden and give him the stipulations as they are, the location of where this property is, he thought there was enough control with the stipulation that they are not going to be having an issue that is perceived to be a possibility there. So, he is hoping that they can at least with respect with #2, let the fence be constructed where ultimately it is going to end up being in any event, and they just don’t want to have to move the fence twice. It doesn’t make sense to them. He said that other than that, they are in agreement with the stipulations. No one spoke in opposition. PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION Commissioner O’Connor asked if the applicant had brought up the fence issue with staff and what was staff’s concern. Mr. Chaffee responded yes, the applicant had brought that up, and staff’s concern was that we pave a small area and then in a period of 12 months, the operation gets to be a little larger and we start to have foundation forms or trailers or trucks in the unimproved properties just tucked back down in the woods. If the fence were placed at the edge of what improvements we were going to be looking at doing with Phase 1, then there is some sort of assurance that those items are going to actually be placed on a paved surface which is a requirement of the zoning regulations that all equipment be placed on a paved surface. Not that Mr. Baska would do it, but it seems like an opportunity may exist that it grows a little faster and then we start seeing equipment not on the paved area, but down into the wooded area. Shawnee Planning Commission -25- May 17, 1999 Commissioner Bedora commented that it is human nature to use the space available to us and we seem to fill it up regardless of what we have need for, so we can spread pretty easily on that. PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION Commissioner Jenkins, seconded by Commissioner Bedora, moved for approval of SP25-99-5, subject to staff recommendations. Motion was carried 9-0. Item No. 7 Discussion: Recodification of Sign Regulations and Amendments. EXPLANATION OF ITEM Planning Director Paul Chaffee explained that the City Council at their May 10, 1999, meeting, voted to consider recodification of the sign regulations from the Zoning Regulations to another section of the Municipal Code. This change would ease the administration of the ordinance without compromising the regulations. It is anticipated that the regulations would be moved to Chapter 5 of the Municipal Code which deals with business and occupational licenses, various uses which require permits from the City, and other related items. Additionally, staff will present several items which provide further clarification and include provisions for newer types of signage we are beginning to see such as murals and the use of fabric rather than plastic and vinyl materials. Staff recommends the Planning Commission authorize publication of a notice to set a public hearing to review the changes, as well as to approve movement of the regulations to a different section of the Municipal Code, for the June 21, 1999, Planning Commission meeting. Staff will prepare the revisions for review by the Commission at the June 7, 1999, meeting. PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION Commissioner O’Connor, seconded by Commissioner Bedora, moved to set the public hearing for the Recodification of the Sign Regulations and Amendments for the June 21, 1999, meeting. Motion was carried 9-0. Item No. 8 - OTHER BUSINESS (1) Planning Director Paul Chaffee reminded the Planning Commission that May is a 5-Monday month so the next meeting will be in three weeks, on June 7th. Shawnee Planning Commission -26- May 17, 1999 (2) Paul Chaffee advised that a joint meeting with the City Council will be scheduled, perhaps in Mid-June. (3) Commissioner Bedora noted that other communities in the area are looking more at the use of wood shingle roofs as opposed to using something else. He thought that the Planning Commission should start looking at that also to the extend of whether or not the Planning Commission could start doing some recommendations of other types of roofing materials that would be safer and more acceptable. Chairman Mazza commented that is not a City requirement or request; it is usually up to the subdivision and the builder as to what he wants in it and they have to go by those guidelines. Mr. Chaffee added that some of it may just be education for the builder. Commissioner Bedora thought that perhaps the Planning Commission could start throwing out the concept that they would like to see something else, and through suggestion and recommendation, perhaps it starts to open up a little bit instead of continuing to use the wood shingle roofs. Mr. Chaffee commented that he was sure that Overland Park had a 3-foot high pile of data. He said that staff could show developers samples of roofing materials that we don’t want. He said staff could get some information together on that. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business to come before the Commission, Commissioner Jenkins, seconded by Commissioner Sheridan, moved for adjournment. The motion was carried unanimously and the meeting adjourned at 8:25 p.m. Pat Sullivan Recording Secretary