"EQUAL WITH ANYBODY" COMPUTERS IN THE LIVES OF OLDER PEOPLE Melanie Lewin Supervisor - Professor Duncan Timms MSC IN APPLIED SOCIAL RESEARCH UNIVERSITY OF STIRLING 2001 1 "IT can transform the lives of older people, providing contacts, information, entertainment and access to specialised services. It can enable radical new models of health care and support for older people living at home, effecting savings that would amply repay the costs of installing an internet connection in every house, just like electricity, gas and water. But it requires profound changes in attitude - a belief in, and a belief by, older people that they can cope" Tom Kirkwood - "The End of Age" The Reith Lectures, Radio 4, 2001 2 CONTENTS Page Acknowledgements 4 Abstract 5 Introduction 6 Context 9 Research design and methods 18 Discussion of findings 27 Conclusions 48 References 54 APPENDIX Summary Brief details of interviewees Questionnaire (in English) Questionnaire Results Interview Schedule 3 ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS I would like to thank the following people for their help and support. My supervisor, Professor Duncan Timms, Dean of the Faculty of Human Sciences, Stirling University, for starting me along this road and helping me get to the end of it. Sara Ferlander, PhD student, and her mother, Åsa, for their help in correcting and translating the questionnaire. Åsa Gunven, for her help in translating the responses to the questionnaire. Martin King, for designing and patiently amending the Web-based questionnaire. My friends and colleagues for their advice at the questionnaire design stage and for their help in finding interviewees. Sandra Mandell of PRO, Sweden, for her kind assistance. Those Swedish people who completed and returned questionnaires or who took the time to write to me. The interviewees for being so generous with their time and with the information they gave me. I would also like to thank the City of Edinburgh Council Social Work Department, for their assistance with the course fees. Lastly, I would like to thank my partner, Bill King, for his unfailing support and encouragement throughout. 4 ABSTRACT This dissertation is a small study of what would appear to be a relatively unresearched area. The study explored the use made of computers and the Internet by people over the age of 70 in order to determine whether using a computer promotes the social inclusion of 'older old' people as they continue to age. The study also attempted to gain some understanding of the role - or potential role - of computers in sustaining or promoting the growth of 'social capital'. The study was in two parts, carried out simultaneously. One section was carried out by means of a Web based/e-mailed questionnaire, translated into Swedish, to which groups for older people in Sweden were alerted; the second was carried out by means of in-depth interviews with twelve people in Scotland, aged between 70 and 83, all of whom use a computer to a greater or lesser extent. Some insight was gained into the role played by computers in the lives of a small number of older people and some initial comparisons were able to be made with a country where there are formal structures for encouraging older people to use computers. The study is small-scale, but indicates areas for more extensive research. It also suggests that, although not a cure-all, learning to use a computer may help to compensate for some of the problems and conditions which commonly accompany older age. 5 1. INTRODUCTION According to the General Register for Scotland’s projected figures, the population of people in Scotland over the age of 75 is set to rise to by approximately 10.5 % in the next ten years (GRO Projected Population of Scotland (1998 Based)). While this can and should be viewed as one of the major achievements of the twentieth century, older people are frequently made to feel that they are a burden, that they are simply living too long and demanding too many of the country’s resources. Scrutton, 1990) outlines the way in which we are presented with negative images of ageing from an early age. The popular concept of older people is generally of very old women, living alone, dependent on families for support, often in pain or discomfort, no longer interested in education or personal development because they are focused on the task of “disengaging” from this life in preparation for the next. Since other societies in other times have held quite different views of older people Scrutton comes to the conclusion that ageism – which creates an image of older people as one homogeneous group rather than as individuals - is largely socially created. Ageism, he states, can lead at one end of the spectrum to a surfeit of care and protection and, at the other, to the neglect and abuse of older people (Scrutton, 1990). Ageism can also lead to the social exclusion of older people, particularly if we understand “social exclusion” to mean more than a simple lack of economic resources. For my own research I have taken a broader definition, similar to that provided by Walker and Walker who see social exclusion as “the dynamic process of being shut out, fully or partially, from any of the social, economic, political or cultural systems which determine the social integration of a person in society. Social exclusion may, therefore, be seen as the denial (or non-realisation) of the civil, political and social rights of citizenship.” (Walker,A and Walker,C, 1997: 8, cited in May (ed) 1999). Young old people are often discriminated against in the job market; older old people are discriminated against within the Health Service and in other ways. For example, those who are living in residential care may find it difficult to vote in an election because they are dependent on staff to organise the practicalities for them. Staff may not have time to do this or may assume that voting is no longer important to residents. They may therefore be excluded on economic or on attitudinal grounds. The staffing levels of some Community Care services are lower for older 6 people than for those in the younger age groups - an indication that those older people who need assistance are seen to require care, but not to be active participants in community life - or to wish or expect to go on learning. One of the key tools for learning - and for very many other aspects of everyday life, particularly in the western world - is now the computer, which technological advances have made increasingly easy to use for the majority of the population. However, age, according to Castells (1996) is a major discriminating factor in computer use in many countries. This is in spite of the fact that, as Timms (2001) points out, “computer mediated communication can overcome: difficulties with mobility, restrictions on timing, social exclusion, shame or fear in interpersonal encounters, difficulties with unbalanced status or power in relationships” – all of which are features of older old age. One report on Internet use states that, according to US Census Bureau figures, “a substantial proportion of US seniors will never go online due to disability, technophobia, lack of access or disinterest.” (Nua Internet Surveys). The quotation implies it is taken for granted that many older people cannot or will not want to learn the necessary skills. The word “seniors” also implies a homogeneous population of older Internet users. In reality, “seniors” refers to a very varied population of individuals ranging in age from 50 – 100 + and spanning two or even three generations of people with very varied life experiences. There is evidence that assumptions about older people and computers is changing. Some nursing homes in America, Finland and elsewhere are now providing Internet access; some private retirement homes in Britain have done the same. In Edinburgh, a small pilot project looked at whether frail, housebound older people (aged 70-90+) would, if provided with the appropriate equipment and support, make use of computers in day centre settings. Many of the older people involved are enthusiastic and some have bought or intend to buy computers for use in their own homes. An extensive trawl of the Internet also revealed that some very elderly people are using computers and the Internet, particularly in America, but also in the UK. Three years ago, America's SeniorNet organisation - which provides computer tuition 7 throughout the U.S. - had128 centres and claimed that half the people who walked through their doors were aged over 70 (Guardian, 11th June, 1998). In the UK, local initiatives such as courses organised by Age Concern England's "AgeResource" have proved popular. In the west of Scotland, Strathclyde University's Senior Studies Institute provides computer tuition to many older people, sometimes of two generations, some of whom then volunteer to become "computer buddies" to provide one-to-one support for new students. In response to demand, a London based organisation called "Hairnet" was set up to provide tuition for older people nationally. The numbers of older old people who are using computers is nevertheless small compared with other age groups. This study chose not explore why this is the case, although the study highlighted many of the reasons why computer use is more difficult for this age group. Instead, the subjects of this study were older people over the age of 70 who have begun to use computers or who have been using them for some time. It explored whether they use them or wish to use them to avoid or to increase their contact with other people, to maintain or replenish their stocks of 'social capital' or to feel 'socially included' and involved in civil, social or political life. The study also considered some of their difficulties in using computers and the Internet. Although this was an exploratory study with a small number of people, it sought to discover whether "successful" use of computers by some older people suggests that greater efforts should be made to promote the digital inclusion of older old people. Because the pool of potential interviewees in Scotland was assumed to be small, part of the research was carried out with older people in Sweden. The Swedish government has, for many years, supported organisations of older people and disabled people - for example, by providing grants and meeting spaces (Hedin, 1993). Sweden has its own SeniorNet organisation, with a central office and over forty local groups, set up to support computer use by older people. SeniorNet Sweden has 5,000 members and it was hoped that the study would identify whether there are differences between the use made of computers by older people in Sweden, where the need for support is recognised and made widely available, and in Scotland, where support may depend on local projects and initiatives (or on the involvement of friends and family members). 8 2. CONTEXT This research study explored the use made of computers and the Internet by people over the age of 70 in order to ascertain the actual or potential role of computers in promoting the social inclusion of "older old" people and in the maintenance or development of social capital. A number of theoretical perspectives would have been relevant in compiling a literature review on this topic. For example, it would have been appropriate to undertake a review from a feminist perspective as the majority of older old people are women. I have chosen to select those perspectives which I feel are most pertinent to the research questions. There appears to be very little academic research into the use made of computers and the Internet by older old people. The study therefore begins by exploring some of the general issues affecting Britain's present generation of older old people which are relevant to the topic of computer use - such as demographic changes and changes in family structures and the social policy which has evolved to try to address these changes, both in Scotland and in Sweden. The discourses of social exclusion, social inclusion and social capital - particularly as they relate to the experience of being an older person - are then explored. Literature on ageism is also considered in order to debate ways in which societal attitudes contribute to the social exclusion of older people. Finally, literature debating the role of computers and the Internet in relation to social inclusion and the development or maintenance of social capital are considered, along with some findings from existing research into the use made of computers by older old people. 9 The history of the family Thirty years ago Simone de Beauvoir wrote that industrialization had destroyed the family as a unit (de Beauvoir, 1972). However, historians such as Peter Laslett have asserted that small nuclear families have been the norm in the Western world, at least since the sixteenth century, (Laslett, 1996). Rather than causing the break-up of families, Laslett and others claim that the Industrial Revolution brought about an increase rather than a decrease in family size (Drake, M, 1994). Most people as they grow older are known to want to continue to live independently in the community for as long as possible. Around 5% live in residential institutions of any kind at any one time and this number has remained fairly constant for the past one hundred years (Blaikie, 1999). What has changed dramatically is the percentage of older old people in proportion to the rest of the population. It is well known that improvements in medical care, diet and life style have substantially increased the numbers of people surviving into older age (Vincent, 1995). It is predicted that in Britain by 2050 the numbers of people over the age of 75 will have doubled and the numbers over the age of 85 will have trebled (OPCS, 1997). Even in the next ten years, according to the General Register for Scotland’s projected figures, the population of people in Scotland over the age of 75 is set to rise to by approximately 10.5 % – from 352,000 in 2001 to 389,000 in 2011. Within this figure, women outnumber men by almost two to one (229,000 to 124,000), with the gender gap growing wider with increasing age. Currently, around 18% of the population are over the age of 65 (GRO Projected Population of Scotland (1998 Based)). Family structures have changed in some respects. Families in one household now tend to be smaller, but three and four generation families with new networks of steprelations are common (Blaikie, 1999). Around 40% of older people live alone and these numbers are increasing (Blaikie, 1999). How we define "older people". The subjects of this study are mainly people over the age of 70 (some questionnaire respondees were 69). I chose to call them "older old people" and selected 70 as a 10 dividing line on the basis that those over 70 might not have used a computer in their work place. Gerontologists are, in any case, unable to agree about what constitutes an older person and about the way "age" should be viewed within social policy. Bytheway (2000) takes a relativist standpoint - he asserts that we should talk of people being "older" rather than "old". Andrews (1999) on the other hand, states the case for recognising and valuing old age as a definite stage in life, on the grounds that acknowledging older people as a group potentially gives them power. Laslett divided older people into those belonging to the "third age" (time of fulfilment) and "fourth age" (time of dependency) (Laslett, 1996). "Third age" is now commonly used, but Laslett's categorisation has been criticised on the grounds of being middle class and for failing to take account of the material inequalities experienced by older people (Arber and Evandrou, 1993). Additionally, although such categorisation encourages policy makers and others to acknowledge the fact that older people are a diverse group and that many continue to lead active lives, "fourth age" defines older old people only in terms of their dependency. It denies the fact that dependency and disability may affect certain areas of an older person's life, such as their mobility; they may retain competency in other areas. Factors which have influenced the formation of social policy in the UK. The impact of the demographic changes listed above had a marked impact on the social policy of the late twentieth century. According to the Scottish Local Government Information Unit, payments for residential care for older people in Britain rose from £10 million in 1979/80 to £1000 million in 1989/90. The birth of the NHS and Community Care Act (1990) came about as the result of the need to drive down costs, coupled with the growth of a number of influencing ideologies (Meredith, B, 1993). The first of these ideologies was consumerism - local authorities were urged to see welfare recipients as consumers of services, with the ability to choose from a range of products and the right to be consulted and involved in decision making. The second was normalisation, defined by Wolfensberger as "Utilization of means which are as culturally normative as possible, in order to establish and/or maintain personal behaviours and characteristics which are as culturally normative as possible" (Wolfensberger, 1934:28) 11 There was also increasing awareness of the potentially harmful effects of institutional care (Goffman, 1961) and greater understanding of the fact that most people prefer, in any case, to remain in their own homes rather than have to be cared for within an institution. Research also helped to promote understanding of the difficulties experienced by the many informal carers who, until the advent of Community Care, had largely been invisible. For the first time, "carers" became a group to be considered in their own right, later enjoying their own - if limited - legislation. Older people in Sweden Although it is acknowledged that the 'welfare mix' differs from country to country, there appears to be some agreement that the central philosophies of social policies in the western world, show a high level of convergence. Care and support for older people has become a central issue of concern in all industrialised countries (Aronson, 1992; Schunk, 1996; Trydegård, G-B, 2000). The general emphasis is on providing good quality community services to enable older people to remain in their own homes for as long as possible, but there are variations in the role which the state is expected to play in bringing this about. Like Scotland, Sweden is a comparatively small country, with a population of 8,882,792. Of Sweden's population of nearly 9 million, around 17% (1 1/2 million) are over the age of 65 (Statistics Sweden). The 1982 Social Service Act (Socialtjänstlagen) placed a formal requirement on Swedish municipalities to provide for those older citizens who needed support. However, as in Britain, demands on the public purse have forced the government to bring in less generous measures and public support is now targeted at those people in most need - such as frail older people living alone (Trydegård, 2000). Social isolation Older people are known to be particularly prone to social isolation, brought on either by life stresses such as bereavement of a spouse or a late-life divorce, or by physical isolation, lack of community integration or absence of intimate relationships (Tout, 12 1995; Russell, C and Schofield, T, 1999). Welfare measures in different countries generally attempt to counteract the isolating effects of older age - such as provision of day care facilities. However, according to Tester (1996), very small percentages of older people make use of these facilities - perhaps because they are inappropriate, or because older people do not know about them or have difficulty accessing them. Ageism Ageism, which Bytheway defines as "prejudice on grounds of age", results in the exclusion of older people solely by reason of their chronological age (Bytheway, 1995:9). Scrutton describes the pernicious nature of ageism which, he states, is not a modern phenomenon brought about by capitalism, but goes back as far as Aristotle (Scrutton, 1990). Pensioner movements have gathered strength in some countries, but - although there are signs of some progress in this direction - older people in Britain have not formed a strong lobby. As yet, there is no legislation outlawing discrimination on grounds of age. In carrying out this literature review it became evident that women sometimes suffer double discrimination as they age. For example, in spite of the fact that the majority of older old people are women, Macdonald, an activist in her sixties, found herself rejected by the feminist movement (Macdonald, B, and Rich, C, 1983). The issue of the exclusion of older women is given only one paragraph in Ruth Lister's otherwise excellent feminist book on Citizenship (Lister, 1997). Stereotypical beliefs about the nature of old age - and perhaps a lack of good quality research - have justified the adverse treatment of older people. For example, some benefits are not available to people over pensionable age, implying that disability is a normal part of growing old (Scrutton, 1990). The belief that older people naturally 'disengage' from social life, (Cummings and Henry, 1961, cited in Scrutton, 1989) justifies the denial of resources which would help to combat loneliness and depression or which could ensure their continued participation. If it is believed that older people cannot learn it is unlikely that learning opportunities will be made available to them (Greengross, 1990). 13 Ageism is also evident in the marketplace. Vincent (1995) goes so far as to say that "consumption is part of the systematic structuring of inequality in late modern society" (Vincent, 1995:115). The image of older people frequently portrayed is that of the impoverished pensioner, dependent on concessions. Hobman (1990) highlights the fact that in 1972 an Age Concern England conference report estimated that older people were spending over £14 billion a year. According to Hobman, designers and manufacturers have failed to recognise the buying power of older people and to produce goods which would better meet the needs of older people. Additionally, as Higgs (1997) points out, the rhetoric of community care promotes the concept of the consumer, but is only applicable to active, healthy older people who are economically independent. Those who come to depend on the services of the state are transformed into objects of consumption who are subject to monitoring, investigation and regulation by health and welfare services to ensure they do not present a risk either to themselves or to others. Social Inclusion, Social Exclusion and Social Capital Inadequate pension provision, the infirmities and sometimes the social isolation which accompany older age, and ageist attitudes - including those held by older people themselves - contribute to the social exclusion of older people. Although earlier literature on social exclusion frequently focused primarily on poverty and on employment issues (May (ed) 1999), Walker and Walker define social exclusion as “the dynamic process of being shut out, fully or partially, from any of the social, economic, political or cultural systems which determine the social integration of a person in society. Social exclusion may, therefore, be seen as the denial (or nonrealisation) of the civil, political and social rights of citizenship.” (A.Walker and C.Walker, 1997: 8, cited in May (ed) 1999) There is evidence that makers of social policy are also beginning to take a more wide ranging view of social exclusion and social inclusion - along with a broader concept of the factors which influence their development. The European Commission on Lifelong Learning identified lifelong learning (in which the Commission saw ICT 14 playing a key role) as essential for combating social exclusion and strengthening social cohesion (Commission of the European Communities, 2000). They applied this to people of all ages, including those in their "third age". The Scottish Office, prior to the opening of the Scottish Parliament, declared a commitment to combat social exclusion and to promote social inclusion by, among other initiatives, "promoting opportunities to take part in work, learning and society in general and by tackling barriers" (The Scottish Office, 1998). A report of a survey carried out by the Lord Provost's Commission on Social Exclusion in Edinburgh also takes a broad focus. It devotes an entire chapter to people over the age of 65 and considers how older people - including those who are housebound - can be supported to "play a central role in their communities". Older people consulted by the Commission stated that they wanted to be valued and to have the same things as people in other age groups, including improved access to services and to information (OneCity, 2000:62-63). Although the above commit government departments and local authorities to taking action in support of building stronger communities, Robert Putnam suggested that strong and healthy communities cannot be created by government strategies, from the top down, but require the fostering and maintenance of social networks, norms and social trust and social engagement - which collectively he termed "social capital" (Putnam, R.D., 1995b). According to Putnam, stocks of social capital have declined, at least in the U.S. He attributed this reduction to a growth in television watching and also to the fact that those who are most involved in their communities are people born before 1930, whose numbers are declining year by year (Putnam, R.D., 1995b). Putnam also stated that the "most fundamental form of social capital is the family" and that there is "massive evidence of the loosening of bonds within the family…" (Putnam, R.D., 1995a). James Coleman defined social capital as "a resource of individuals that emerges from their social ties" (cited in Portes and Landolt, 1996). Social capital - having a network of interpersonal relations - is particularly important to people as they age. However, older age is known to result in an inevitable decline in social contacts, with variations 15 dependent on factors such as gender and current or previous marital status (Hatch and Bulcroft, 1992). Also, according to Portes and Landolt, the maintenance of social capital requires a high level of reciprocity. If this is the case, older old people are particularly vulnerable to its loss since they will eventually require to draw more from their stocks of social capital than they are able to repay. Levels of social capital may affect whether or not an older person is able to remain in the community. For example, Wenger, Scott and Patterson found that although childlessness has a bearing on whether or not an older person is admitted to residential care, support networks of friends and other relations are also very important (Wenger, Scott and Patterson, 2000). Gradual dependency on others is generally accompanied by a loss of autonomy. Research has, however, identified that older old people value maintaining as much control over their own lives as possible (Aronson, 1992; Arber and Evandrou, 1993). According to Laslett, for example, older people prefer not to live with children when they are no longer able to live on their own. They prefer to be within reach of their children, rather than living with them - to enjoy "intimacy at a distance" (Laslett, 1996). The Internet The existence of chat rooms and other virtual meeting places demonstrate that many people find "intimacy at a distance" through the Internet. However, Putnam (1995a) poses questions about the impact of electronic networks on social capital and whether technology is privatizing our lives. Others assert that, on the contrary, technology can strengthen existing ties (Fukuyama,F cited in London, S 1997). A survey of 15,842 Internet users carried out in Switzerland found that use of electronic mail had positive effects on peoples' social networks (Franzen, A 2000). This is confirmed by Miller and Slater who give an account of an elderly widow who had become depressed following the death of her husband. She was persuaded to learn how to use e-mail so that she could keep in touch with a favourite grandchild. She subsequently contacted many other relatives and, according to the younger members of her family, took on a new lease of life (Miller and Slater, 2000:61). 16 Older people and the Internet An audit of ICT initiatives carried out on behalf of the Scottish Executive revealed that only two out of a total of 90 initiatives were targeted primarily at older people (Scottish Executive, 2001). Research has been undertaken to gauge the level of access which older people have to IT in libraries (Hull, 2000) and to highlight the barriers (Williamson, Bow and Wale, 1997) and the supports needed (Flatten, 2000; Blake, 1997). However, as stated above, although older people in their 70's, 80's and 90's are using computers, there appears to be little research into what they use them for. Do they use them to maintain or to increase their contact with other people or to enable them to avoid contact – for example, by having their groceries delivered from the local supermarket, rather than having to depend on someone else to do their shopping for them? 1250 older people who took part in an on-line survey of over 50's carried out in April 2000 by the British Market Research Bureau on behalf of Age Concern England cited keeping in touch as the greatest benefit of computer use. However, it appears that little off-line research has been carried out with older people, particularly with those over the age of 70, who are coming to that point in their lives when they are most likely to need good support networks and who, simultaneously, are most at risk of losing them. 17 3. RESEARCH DESIGN AND METHODS Research Strategy The following is a brief outline of the research strategy which was devised to research whether or not use of computers and the Internet promotes the social inclusion of older old people and serves to strengthen or to weaken their social ties. The foundation of the study was a review of literature relevant to the research questions. The literature review considered some of the many different social issues which provide a context to the topic - demographic and family changes; debates about what constitutes an "older" person; social isolation; social policy; ageism; social exclusion, social inclusion and social capital. Some research into whether the Internet is seen to have a positive or detrimental effect on social isolation and social networks was also reviewed. SeniorNet Sweden The first difficulty which then required to be overcome lay in the fact that, in the UK at least, older computer users are a hidden population. In Sweden, however, a nonprofit making organisation called SeniorNet was set up in1996 - following the model provided by SeniorNet in the U.S. - in recognition of the fact that Swedish older people were in danger of being excluded, for example, from accessing public services such as banking, which were increasingly being provided on-line. SeniorNet Sweden was established to make information technology available to all Swedish older people, in a range of ways. Five years later, the organisation has developed a web site which functions as a virtual community for Swedish senior citizens and it has started and continues to support over forty local community clubs where members can meet and help each other to learn at a pace which is comfortable to them. SeniorNet Sweden also initiates many projects to involve older people in IT activities. In October 2000 SeniorNet Sweden had 5000 members over the age of 55, representing the full spectrum of Sweden's social structure. Additionally, the 18 organisation estimated that 50,000 older people had been given an introduction to IT and the Internet. Methods of teaching have been evolved which encourage seniors in their curiosity about IT, while supporting them to overcome their anxieties. Given the success of SeniorNet Sweden, at least with younger old people, it seemed likely that a reasonable number of older old people might also be using computers in Sweden. I therefore decided to start the research in Sweden, by designing a questionnaire which could be e-mailed to older Swedish computer users. The information gathered from the questionnaire would then be used to formulate a semi-structured interview schedule to be used for in-depth interviews with a small group of older old people in Scotland. Theoretical assumptions and theoretical perspectives The research design therefore employed both quantitative and qualitative methods which are seen to derive from different epistemologies. The survey questionnaire is rooted in the positivist, essentialist paradigm, which asserts that truth is "out there", waiting to be discovered; the semi-structured interview, on the other hand, is located within a more constructionist and interpretive view (Devine and Health, 1999). It has become more common to use different methods within one research study. Feminist researchers, for example, no longer reject quantitative approaches, but add them to the tools they use to promote understanding of the world from a feminist viewpoint (Devine and Heath, 1999; Jayaratne, 1993). Devine and Heath give examples of researchers who employed a variety of methods, to great effect - "allowing them to get at different facets of the same phenomenon" (Devine and Heath, 1999:204). Although I realised that the need to employ different methods in different countries would not allow me to make a direct comparison of my findings, I did expect that the information gathered would, independently, cast light on the same issue. In reflecting on the assumptions which I brought to this study, I realised that the types of initiatives in which I have been involved over the past thirty years have either directly or indirectly stemmed from my belief in the need to actively promote social equality and social inclusion. This study is, perhaps inevitably, built on the same 19 foundation. Whereas theoretical perspectives such as positivism and interpretivism search for understanding only, this study is sited within critical enquiry, which Crotty calls "the Marxist heritage" - seeking not only to understand the world, but to change it (Crotty, 1998: 112-159). Although I agree with Hammersley that "the priorities of research and politics are very different" (Hammersley, 1995: 42), I am of the belief that research should not remain "on the shelf", but should be used to bring about change and is more likely to effect change if seen to be methodologically sound. Methods. As already stated, had it been possible, the study would have been entirely qualitative, since, depth rather than breadth of understanding was the overall aim. I did not wish only to know how many e-mails were sent, on average, and to whom, but to gain understanding of the role played by a computer in the lives of older old people. Secondly, older people, along with many other populations who are the subjects of research, are disadvantaged in our society and qualitative methodologies are considered to be more empowering, giving a voice to the interviewee and greater equality with the interviewer, rather than extracting facts from objectified participants (Punch, K, 1998). However, as it was not possible to interview Swedish older people, it was decided to develop an e-mail questionnaire, the findings from which could be used to inform in-depth interviews with a small number of interviewees in Scotland. In reality, because of time delays, it became necessary to undertake the interviews at the same time as disseminating the questionnaire. The interview schedule was therefore modelled on the questions in the questionnaire, but using largely open rather than closed questions, intended to provide comparable, but richer data. Many practical problems had then to be overcome. Given that younger Swedish people generally speak English and some of the information supplied on the SeniorNet Sweden web site is in English I intended to use English only. However, a group of older people who use an Internet café in Stockholm agreed to complete the questionnaire - but only if it was in their own language. I therefore reasoned that, in order to be confident of receiving any completed responses from older people with whom I had no prior connection, it would have to be translated. 20 I do not know many Swedish people and did not have the resources to go to a professional translation service. As I studied Swedish at university (30 years ago) I first attempted the translation myself and eventually, after many delays, found someone who was willing to correct it for me. My lack of personal resources also had an impact on the design: questions had, in the main, to be closed, as lengthy descriptive responses would have made analysis more difficult for me. Some researchers such as Coomber (1997), Selwyn and Robson (1998) and Ferguson (1993) have highlighted the potential advantages of using the Internet and e-mail for research purposes. These fail to draw attention to the difficulties which the novice online researcher may come across. In fact, initial testing of the questionnaire with colleagues revealed the first of the very many technical difficulties which subsequently had to be overcome. The formatting was lost if the questionnaire was incorporated into the body of an e-mail. Opening an attachment, saving the information before completing it and then returning the questionnaire to the sender requires a level of computer expertise which could constitute too great a barrier for older people. It was therefore decided to develop a Web-based questionnaire to which people could be directed. After attempting to design this myself, a family member with professional expertise in web-site design offered his assistance. He developed a Web-based version of the questionnaire which he placed on his own web site. His own work commitments led to considerable delays and necessitated starting the interviews before the questionnaires were returned, in order to complete the research within timescales. Following the advice of Comley, P (1996), an e-mail message in Swedish was then sent to approximately 60 organisations - SeniorNet groups and also folk high schools - asking them to alert older people to the Web-based questionnaire. In spite of several reminders, only 31 questionnaires which could be used were returned. One reason for the poor overall response may be due to the fieldwork being carried out over the summer time. As one participant informed me, seniors in Sweden take long summer holidays; summer houses and sailing take precedence over computers and computer classes. However, this proved not to be the reason as the web site 21 "owner" was able to track that there were a large number of 'visits' to the site which did not result in the return of a completed questionnaire. It seems that some people were deterred from returning them by the fact that results of the web-based questionnaire were returned to me by e-mail and participants were warned that I would be given their e-mail address. Although the Web-based questionnaire was easy to complete, only 14 were returned by this method. Others were returned by e-mail or as e-mail attachments and 14 were returned by post - 12 from one organisation, following a day organised annually in Sweden to encourage older people to take up computing. Locating interviewees in Scotland Finding interviewees proved less problematic although this, too, took time and persistence. Colleges and community centres were closed for the holidays and most classes were not due to start again until after the fieldwork was timetabled for completion. Interviewees were found by asking many people who were likely to come into contact with older people if they knew of anyone over the age of 70 who was using a computer. They were then requested to ask the person concerned if they would be willing to be contacted. This was followed by a letter or phone call to the person to arrange a mutually convenient time. The only exception to this was when the arrangement was made via a sheltered housing warden, rather than with the tenants directly. It was hoped that the interviews would be enjoyable for participants, as well as yielding rich data about their lives and an attempt was made to keep them as informal as possible. A small tape recorder was used, with the interviewees' permission. Rather than a formal interview schedule, a notebook was referred to from time to time throughout the interview to ensure that, as far as possible, all the topics, had been covered. This resulted in free-flowing conversation around the issues, while also allowing the gathering of factual information. Everyone was sent a card to thank them for their time and promised a summary of the completed report. 22 Range and type of data collected The questionnaire was designed to collect details about participants' use of computers - what they use them for, where they use them, how they learned or are learning to use them, their feelings about using them and whether their use of a computer brings them into greater or lesser contact with others. According to Barton, "To be a disabled person means to be discriminated against. It involves social isolation and restriction. This is because of an essentially inaccessible socio-economic and physical world." (Barton, 1998: 56). In recognition of the fact that older age frequently brings with it increased health problems and physical impairments, participants were asked for details about any disabilities or medical conditions, particularly those which might make it difficult for them to use a computer. This was, in part, to find out whether only non-disabled older people were using computers. It was also to discover whether respondents or interviewees were using computers in spite of any impairments, as this would have implications for the general population of older old people. Direct questions about whether participants felt lonely or excluded were avoided because feelings of loneliness are known to be highly individualised and to some extent dependent on the norms of the society in which the person lives (Jylhä and Jokela, 1990). Instead, questions were asked about whether the participant had or did not have as much contact with others as she/he wished. Sampling Simple random sampling was employed in disseminating the questionnaire: All of the 41 SeniorNet clubs were e-mailed with a Swedish language message, asking them to bring their members' attention to the questionnaire. Of necessity, the population targeted was therefore biased towards older people who were guaranteed to be using the Internet. However, folk high schools in Sweden provide further education courses for people of all ages and all 13 were also e-mailed with the same request. 23 Given the difficulties stated above, purposive sampling had to be used, by means of personal contacts and by asking friends and colleagues and others such as Community Education workers and workers from organisations for older people. Only interviewees over the age of 70 were selected, with some preference given to those who were older than this (where age or approximate age was known). Some attempt was made to employ "maximum variation sampling"(Punch, 1998) in that interviewees were selected who lived in different parts of Edinburgh and beyond, who were known to have had careers which afforded them greater or lesser degrees of responsibility and on the basis of their gender. (Seven women and five men were interviewed.) An (unsuccessful) attempt was also made to locate interviewees from a minority ethnic group - particularly from the Polish community, which has the largest population of older people of any minority ethnic group in Edinburgh. Some interviewees had recently begun to use computers; others had been using them for many years, although this was not always known before the interview took place. Because of their individual differences it was hoped to gain some indication of whether computers have a role to play in the promotion of social inclusion and social capital, regardless of a participant's background or living circumstances. This might suggest whether or not there are barriers or issues which are common to many older people. Analysis The questionnaires were analysed using Excel to provide general descriptive statistics. The interviews were transcribed and the transcriptions then coded under headings such as 'health and disability' and under relevant sub-headings as they emerged, such as 'hands', 'visual problems', 'fear of developing dementia' etc. This was a slow process as the transcriptions were long - each interview took one hour to an hour and a half - but continual scrolling through the interview scripts allowed familiarisation with the data. 24 Observations about methods used What people say and what they do may be very different. However, the open and informal style of interviewing did appear to encourage interviewees to talk freely about themselves, their connections with families, friends and community, and to describe the part played by a computer within their everyday lives. This was an exploratory study with a very small number of interviewees. As stated, it was targeted at older old people who choose to use computers and did not seek to find out why others are frightened of them or have tried and then abandoned them. This is perhaps a topic for further research. Given the target population, the method did appear to be both appropriate and effective in casting light on the common factors about use of a computer in promoting the social inclusion and social capital of older old people. The questionnaire was less successful in respect of validity and reliability. It was corrected by two Swedish native speakers and some of the problems of translating from one language to another were presumably thus avoided (Birbili, 01). However, the information gathered was largely brief and factual and gave very little indication of the effect of computer use on social inclusion or social capital. More useful data was gathered from the friendly letters sent by Swedish SeniorNet members, describing the activities of their clubs. This accords with Hantrais and Mangen's assertion that the establishment of personal contacts may sometimes be more valuable than the actual comparative results (Hantrais and Mangen, 1996: 2). There were a number of ethical issues. I was careful not to abuse the fact that I was in possession of questionnaire respondents' e-mail addresses and merely replied with a "thank you". There were more extensive ethical issues related to the interviews. I attempted to establish rapport by keeping the interview as informal as possible and, as stated above, the only items which I brought to the interview were a notebook in which I had written the main topics for discussion, and a small tape recorder. What was perhaps lost in consistency was made up for by the subsequent richness of data. However, this open, narrative style of interviewing brings with it particular ethical considerations. In describing women interviewing other women, Finch warns of the 25 "exploitative potential (which) lies in the relationship between interviewer and interviewee" (Finch, 1984: 174). Although interviewees were happy to tell me about their lives, some of which contained painful details, I was mindful of the fact that this was an interview and not a counselling session. I was careful not to probe into areas which were clearly sensitive - for example, I consciously avoided asking further questions about one interviewee's son when it was clear that he did not wish to talk about him. I promised to respect another interviewee's wish to keep the secret of his real age. All interviewees were guaranteed a copy of a summary of the report when it is written. 26 4. DISCUSSION OF FINDINGS Introduction There were two main questions on which this small study sought to begin to throw some light. Firstly, can the 'successful' use of computers and the Internet help older old people to be included as full members of the wider community as they continue to age and as their needs change? Secondly, does their use maintain or promote the development of social networks, trust and belonging - which Putnam and others have termed "social capital"? The focus of the discussion As stated in Chapter 3, in spite of considerable efforts to disseminate the questionnaire to as many people in Sweden as possible, a relatively small number of questionnaires were returned (31). The main focus of the study is therefore the interviews with twelve older people in Scotland, with findings from the questionnaire providing some minor comparisons with Swedish older people. Brief descriptions of the interviewees are outlined in the Appendix. Interviewees were assured that their anonymity would, as far as possible, be maintained and, given that the population of older old people using computers is small, details which might reveal their identity have been omitted or concealed. SOCIAL INCLUSION & EXCLUSION I had assumed that any older people I could find who were over the age of seventy and who were using computers were likely to be younger rather than older, reasonably fit, well educated and affluent. I expected them to have been using computers for some time, rather than learning to use them in recent years. However, I reasoned that if a small number of older people derived benefits from using a computer, or expected to derive them as they grew older and their needs changed, with the appropriate range of supports these benefits could be made available to older people in less fortunate positions. 27 In fact, only one interviewee (C7) conformed to this stereotype in its entirety. The remaining eleven people varied in their levels of health and fitness, income and work history. Seven are over 80 and of these, 5 have started to use a computer in the past three years. Although most of those interviewed clearly had some form of private or works pension, one person (C11) appeared to be on a very low income, with no private means. I therefore discovered many facts for which I was not entirely prepared, one being the parallel between digital and social exclusion. Interviewees had learned computing or were using a computer in spite of a range of difficulties, some related to their own situation or state of health, some imposed upon them by systems and by societal attitudes. The findings about social exclusion are therefore discussed in two stages: some of the barriers to digital/social inclusion, such as disability, income, attitudes are first described; ways in which using a computer may help to overcome some of the barriers to social inclusion which accompany older age are then explored. BARRIERS WHICH INTERVIEWEES HAD OVERCOME Health and disability As stated above, only one person fully conformed to my stereotypical example of an older old person using a computer - "fit as a flea" (his own words), well educated, in his early seventies and apparently financially comfortable. The remaining eleven interviewees have at least one, in some instances several, medical problems or impairments, some of which make it difficult for them to use a computer - or to access the training they need. Arthritis was a common complaint, affecting people in different ways. Six people said that arthritis in their finger joints made it difficult for them to use their hands. Three of those interviewed (C2, C3 and C8) have been near to death on previous occasions and have continuing chronic health problems. Two others (C6 and C10) have serious health conditions which forced them to take early retirement. 28 Eight of those interviewed said they had or were developing problems with their eyesight. Four need daily help with basic personal care tasks such as doing up buttons or taking a shower. Three spouses of those interviewed also have severe health problems - one suffers from diabetes, one has chronic heart trouble and one is losing her sight as a result of macular degeneration. Interviewees were asked if they were able to get out and about. Two people have given up driving because their eyesight or other general health has deteriorated, five are still driving and the remainder use public transport or are dependent on spouses or other family members to drive them. One person (C8) is housebound and only able to go out if a friend or paid carer takes her and her wheelchair in their car. Several people mentioned that older age is accompanied by a general slowing down. I think with advancing years one does slow down (C1, widow, aged 82) So you just slow down a wee bit and I find you can nearly do everything when you're older, but slower. (C3, widower, aged 81) Although half of those interviewed had problems using their hands, this had not deterred them from using a computer. They had found their own ways round the problem. One (C2) moved the mouse with his right hand and clicked it with the finger of his left hand. Only one had (unaided) found an alternative solution: "when I bend this hand to type this damn finger sticks so I've bought this voice recognition thing and I can just talk into it and it prints by itself" (C3, aged 81) Income Interviewees were not asked for details of their financial circumstances, but the costs of setting up a computer, maintaining and repairing it, being on line and paying for 29 training courses were mentioned by every interviewee. All had some concern about meeting financial demands, in spite of the fact that some interviewees have had high status jobs which are likely to have allowed them to maintain a reasonably high standard of living in retirement. Two of the interviewees - both academics - still earn some money; the remainder are reliant on pensions and other sources of income. Only one person - C8 - appeared to have been able to buy a computer and set it up without consideration of the cost. As she is housebound, she incurred additional installation and running costs. " I had to have a separate telephone line because I am on the Careline." (C8 very disabled woman, former academic, early 80's) Two people (C10 and C11) had computers on loan from a local project for older people although C10 was considering buying his own. One (C1) had waited until able to acquire a cheap second-hand computer. Costs of maintaining and repairing computers are high. "I didn't want to have to get it banged up in trouble and have to get it repaired … it costs money." (C2 - disabled man, aged 82 who had his own business. He was deterred from using his computer when his tutor was not there in case he caused any damage) "…he didn't charge me as much as he should have charged me, because I was old, I suppose, but it was still quite a few pounds I paid." (C5, retired academic, aged 83, who had been quoted £40 an hour for home repair visits). Costs of private tuition can also be considerable (C8 paid £30 an hour). Even lower personal tuition charges may be hard to meet. 30 "… she wanted me to pay £5 an hour myself and I just couldn't cope with that… You can't keep paying money out all the time when you're on a pension like I am." (C2 - disabled man, aged 82 who had his own business) The cost of attending computer courses was also a concern and paying for courses was further resented when the course proved unsuitable. "It was a waste of time and money. It cost me £20." (C4 - widow, former clerical worker, aged 77) Although one person (C3) had set up an all-in Internet package which allowed him unlimited access, for others the cost of being on line was also a consideration and limited the times they used it - for example, to evenings or weekends. In the case of C11, it deterred her from accessing the Internet at home. "I can't afford it (use of Internet). There's no point in putting yourself into debt for something that you know you can do without." (C11, widow, aged 70, with a very limited income, who uses the Internet at a local project rather than at home) Exclusion from learning Interviewees mainly held positive attitudes to their own ability to learn computing. Only one person (C10) said he thought, before he started that he would be "hopeless" at computers. Seven people stated or implied that they enjoyed the challenge of learning and most were confident in their ability to master it or voiced the determination to learn, whatever happened. "I was pretty confident I would be able to do it, given time - and I know that I am slower - it takes me longer, but that's no reason for not doing it." (C1, widow, aged 82, former nurse) "Once I get to know it I'll be in there like a rat!" (C2, very disabled man, aged 82) 31 Some interviewees clearly thought it was entirely up to them whether or not they succeeded (C5, C7). However, others had tried to find suitable courses and failed and some voiced dissatisfaction at the standard of teaching and at modern teaching methods which were unfamiliar to them. "Now they dot from one to the other and they get tied up with somebody and you sit doing nothing" (C9 - widow, aged 83, former nurse) Some were deterred from asking a course tutor for help out of a belief that, in the company of younger people, older people should take second place. "You feel 'I shouldn't be here. You're in the wrong place.' This is children's learning and you're taking up their space so you feel awkward." (C11, widow aged 70 - about attending classes alongside school children) "Their main concern is to teach the young - which is rightly so because they are looking for work, and I felt shy … I felt shy of asking and causing a waste of time." (C9, widow, aged 83 - about attending an evening class) Interviewees suggested that educators fail to recognise that some older people have particular computer learning needs, regardless of their level of academic achievement: "I find the people who tell you they can help you are irritating because they don't help you, they just do it. They haven't got the patience to find out what your real problems are and they find it perfectly easy - so they get on and do it at a speed that I can't follow what they are doing." (C8, disabled woman in her early 80's, formerly a senior academic) Interviewees said their tutors tended to be younger people, who have consequently not yet experienced the problems which can accompany older age. They would not yet have experienced the stiffness of joints which make it difficult for an older person to manipulate a mouse at speed. Six of those interviewed also have impaired hearing which may have added to their difficulties in a classroom situation. 32 Other criticisms of courses and tuition included: a lack of interest generally on the part of the tutor, being taught aspects of computing which they did not want to know and would never use, lack of interest in older people, classes being held at night when most older people prefer not to go out after dark, tutors teaching at an inappropriate pace, being the only older person in the class. Some places where classes were held are also physically inaccessible. Good learning experiences were those where the person teaching them had been very clear, had asked what it was they wanted to know and made sure that they understood what had been taught and could then do it for themselves before moving on to the next topic. Exclusion from information The interviews highlighted the fact that older people may not know what a computer can do. Some (C6, C7, C12) had begun to use computers years ago, for example when younger members of the family became interested; others (C5 and C8) had recognised the need to learn computing in order to keep up with their academic peers. However, for those who started using computers late in life, this was often by accident, because they happened to be in a particular place at a particular time, not because they knew what a computer could offer them. "somebody said you can find everything on the Web. I didn't know what the Web was. The only Web I knew about was the spiders' ones. I thought all computers were games to start with you see." (C11 - widow, aged 70, who did not go out to work) Once motivated by a little knowledge, some interviewees (C1, C9, C10) had been encouraged to learn by family members although some had had to manage for themselves. One of the bigger computer retailers was said to have been particularly unhelpful. Most people did not know others of their own age using computers and, as stated above, had been taught (if at all) by younger tutors. Most did not know about chat 33 rooms or other sites of interest to older people. Some were pleased to be given the information. THE EFFECT OF LEARNING TO USE A COMPUTER All those interviewed were selected because, in spite of any difficulties, they were already using a computer or wanted to make better use of one. The study was therefore able to begin to look at the role of computers in relation to the social inclusion of older old people. Once again, I had assumed that if computers were to promote their social inclusion, this would be through their use of on-line facilities. In fact, I discovered that other aspects of using a computer can have a positive effect on promoting or maintaining social inclusion as people grow older. One person (C8) expressed full recognition of the need to learn about computers if social exclusion is to be avoided. "I felt at the time that without any knowledge of computing one was somehow missing out on what was going on … that you were left out of things if you were completely computer ignorant" (C8 - disabled unmarried woman, aged 83, formerly a senior academic) For others, the role of computers in promoting their inclusion in the wider community was expressed less directly and in a variety of different ways. Language On television the public are increasingly referred to web sites such as "BBC.co.uk" and some banking and other services are only available, or available more cheaply, on line. Positive and negative aspects of computing and the Internet are frequent topics of conversation. Interviewees demonstrated that they had either acquired or were struggling to acquire fluency in what is now a common language for many younger people. 34 "I do need e-Net - er… e-mail - mail"(C5 - woman, aged 83, writer of text books) "I needed a USB… UBS… connection" (C9 - widow, aged 83, who has been using a computer for approximately 3 years) Understandably, those who had been using computers the longest tended to have acquired the greatest degree of fluency and sophistication. "since then my motherboard went down" (C12 - man, aged 81, who has been using a computer for many years) Acquiring fluency may bring with it the satisfaction that you can communicate in a once unfamiliar language: "…that's compatible with my PC" (laughs at using these words) (C1 - widow aged 82, who has had a computer for 6 months) Benefits Two people (C2 and C6) said they found it easier to use a computer than to manage the ordinary everyday activities of life. "I'm able to manage my computer, you see, but I can't even pick up pound notes." (C2 - very disabled man, aged 82) In spite of being dependent on spouses for personal care needs, using a computer allows them an area of their life in which they are able to continue exercising some control - and which simultaneously affords their spouse some respite from the caring role. In other instances, the computer allows the continuation of activities which have become difficult because of disabling conditions. Some said they used word 35 processing, for example, because they found it easier than trying to write by hand or because others could no longer read their hand-writing. E-mail can provide a printed record of details which could be lost in a telephone conversation, or which could easily be forgotten by those with memory problems. Similarly, sight problems can be overcome by increasing the font size, although two people (C3 and C9) said they placed a limit on the time they spent on the computer to ensure they did not further damage their eyes. In some instances, anxieties about encroaching disabilities were the motivating factor in starting to use a computer. Some said they felt that using the computer helps to keep their fingers mobile. Whether or not their belief is well founded, seven people interviewed stated or implied that they had begun or continued to use a computer because of their fear of developing dementia "I could feel senility overtaking me. I'd go upstairs and forget what I was upstairs for…" (C4 - widow, aged 77, former clerical worker) "this is one of the big uses of the computer - in order to keep ourselves - my wife's and my mind active - every night we play 3 games of Freefell and 1 of Spider (C7 - former scientific researcher, aged 74) For one person, boredom and depression resulting from limitations imposed by his poor health were his motivation for learning to use a computer. "he was really getting morbid. He was really depressed and it's changed his life completely." (spouse of C10 - aged 73, ex miner/security guard) The words "a new lease of life" were used in several interviews to describe the effect that beginning to use a computer had had on the person concerned. 36 Financial considerations Interviewees talked of the expense of buying and maintaining a computer. For those who had free access, however, the savings (in using e-mail for example) were appreciated. "I ran these off (the cards) and it saved about £8" (C4 - widow, aged 77) It also allows the user, along with others who have access, to buy goods at cheaper rates. "I get my ink cartridges off the Internet for Epson…" (C12 - retired insurance salesman, aged 81) Self esteem The feminist writer, Ruth Lister, suggests that to act as a fully included citizen "requires first a sense of agency, the belief that one can act" (Lister, 1997: 38). She suggests that this belief is linked to self esteem. This association between self esteem and the sense of being included which learning to use a computer had brought him was eloquently expressed by one person (C10) who left school at 14 to start work as a miner. "It makes me - it gives me an inner feeling that I am as equal with anybody now. It gives me this feeling that I am no … sort of old and ancient and dilapidated. I mean I'm sort of equal with quite a lot of people now, never thinking that I'd be there at this stage of my life anyway especially. I get a warm glow, you ken, inside to think that I've got this wee bit of knowledge." (C10 - aged 73) Others made similar references to the fact that mastering the skills of using a computer increased their sense of self esteem. "I feel very good about it … they (adult children) don’t do photographs and they're all into business and they just never touch photographs. Well I could tell them 37 about that - how to enlarge the pictures and place them and all sorts of things. So you see it's your own particular niche you get into. (C9 - widow, aged 83, retired nurse) Use of E-mail All the interviewees used e-mail, although some with more enthusiasm than others. It was appreciated by most of those interviewed for its immediacy and low cost which allowed frequent easy contact with relatives and friends, particularly those living a long way away. "It's wonderful. I pay my rates now with a smile" (C4, widow, aged 77 - who checks her e-mails twice a week, free of charge, at the local library) "You can do e-mail and make it that it's going to 40 different people in the same group - oh no, it's amazing the e-mail." (C3, widower, aged 81, who uses his computer to, among other things, print and distribute minutes of meetings) Letters were preferred by some interviewees - for example, because a letter indicates that some effort has been taken on the part of the sender. However, some accepted the fact that younger relatives have lost the habit of letter writing. Wife: "Douglas wouldn't write a letter, but he'll e-mail us. Husband: He'll e-mail us." (C6 - husband and wife in their early 70's, talking about their son) For some interviewees who had begun to use a computer in the last few years, mastering the art of e-mailing was the initial motivating factor, particularly for those with sons and daughters and grandchildren abroad. "I've got another friend in Bangladesh and I've got his e-mail so I must get a bit more proficient" (C1, widow, aged 82 - who e-mails her daughter in the Far East every evening) 38 "that was what put me on … excited me to get into it because I wanted to e-mail them - that was how it started - it wasn't really to go into computing in the big way that I've come out" (C9 - widow, aged 83, whose family are very scattered) "I would buy it (computer) just for sending e-mails." (C10, ex miner/security guard whose much loved son and grandchildren live abroad) E-mailing can also be integrated into the busy working lives of relatives abroad. "I know that he's sitting in his office while I'm doing mine and I sit there, maybe wait 5 minutes later and maybe get another e-mail in - not by chat or anything but by e-mail - backwards and forwards" (C10, whose only son works in Jakarta. It takes 3 weeks for a letter from the UK to reach him.) In some instances, the ease with which messages could be communicated backwards and forwards by e-mail allowed more tenuous and casual friendships to be maintained, thus extending the range of available contacts, or what Granovetter called "weak ties" (Granovetter, M.S. 1973, cited in Ferlander, S and Timms, D, 2001). Being able to send e-mailed attachments, particularly photographs, were also very much valued by some interviewees with friends and family abroad. "in America there was a new baby born and I got the picture the same day that's wonderful, isn't it?" (C9 - widow, aged 83, many of whose relatives live in the U.S.) "If I've taken a photograph of Lucy I'll e-mail it to her day and I'll e-mail it to my son - her granddad - and I'll e-mail it to my daughter and I'll e-mail it to Australia - just to let them see how she's getting on." (C6 - disabled married woman, aged 83) Some interviewees had strong views about when it was appropriate to send an e-mail to make holiday arrangements for example, but not to write a letter of complaint. Some said they would use the phone if a message was particularly important and they had to be sure of it reaching the person concerned. Two interviewees who preferred to 39 word process a letter and then send it through the post nevertheless recognised the need to be accessible by e-mail to continue to be included within the academic community. "there is a professor in Japan who is translating our recent monograph …. She wants an immediate reply - so I've mastered that. She and I now communicate by e-mail." (C5 - unmarried woman, aged 83, self employed writer or text books) Most e-mailing seemed to be with people a long way away, rather than with friends and relatives in the near neighbourhood. One or two interviewees who have frequent personal contact with those people to whom they are closest do not use e-mail. "…we see each other often enough. .. What can I say to her in an e-mail that I can't say to her on the phone or direct?" (C8 - retired senior academic in her early 80's) Telephone calls can be expensive and using a telephone can be tiring or difficult for an older person - for example, because of hearing problems. However, telephone was used in preference to e-mail for several reasons. Fewer numbers of people, particularly older old people, have access to computers or e-mail outside the work place. "I don't know any of my friends who are into computers." (C7 - retired scientific researcher, aged 74) "I use the phone locally because I'm concerned about the elderly people and none of them, you know - they've not … computers are something that belong to another age you see." (C12 - former insurance salesman, aged 81) Some interviewees said they simply preferred to use a telephone. "I think I like to talk direct to people. There's things you will say on the phone to people that you won't put on your e-mail" (C11 - widow, aged 70) 40 "If I get really desperate missing them I've got to go and phone. I've got to hear their voice and the kids come on the phone" (C10's wife). Interviewees appeared to appreciate e-mail because it allowed them to augment existing contact with relatives - for example, if phone calls could not be made as frequently as interviewees would wish, due to the cost incurred. "H phones every week yet we're e-mailing in between" (C9 - widow, aged 83, whose family are scattered) Although they did not like it, no-one appeared to have been put off using e-mail by pornographic or other 'junk mail'. Other uses of the Internet Use of other aspects of the Internet varied considerably - from not at all to, in one person's case, having developed their own web site on a topic of particular interest to them. Two people (C5 and C9) had been included in other peoples' web sites. "my grandson… put me onto it and he put H onto it and he put R onto it and there are other people that I know on it - friends of R's that I've known for years - and they're all on this little community, you see." (C9 - retired nurse, aged 83, whose family are scattered) One person (C3) was particularly enthusiastic about the Web: "There's so many hidden treasures that's there - and the knowledge that's there……and it's no high falutin' knowledge that you cannae understand. It's there basic for you" (C3, widower, aged 81, who started to use a computer only 2/3 years ago). 41 However, the majority of interviewees did not appear to use the Web to any great extent. C1 and C2 had each only looked up one web site - C2 because he lacked the confidence to use his computer without someone there to help him, C1 because she is also a beginner and not attending any classes. The difficulty of finding what you want when you want it, without wasting a great deal of time, was an issue for some people. "there were so many letters that you couldn't possibly read everything ….They were written in a medical sense." (C10, who was looking for information on his medical condition) One person had another concern. "I think in a way I'm anxious that it doesn't take over my life because I think it could…. I might get addicted to the damn thing." (C5 - unmarried woman, aged 83) Understandably, those who had been using computers for a number of years tended to be the most adept at finding their way around the Web and used it to download music, search for information about products or health problems and to make particular purchases more cheaply. No-one had used it for grocery shopping. This includes one interviewee who is housebound. In spite of having completed a demanding computer course she was unaware that on-line grocery shopping, with delivery, was possible. Nor did she play games with other people on line, although she said that she regularly has "an hour or so playing bridge with myself". No-one participated in chat rooms. Some said they were not interested in chat rooms, although two people were pleased to be given information about a chat room for older people set up by Age Concern England. One person (C10) was particularly keen to communicate with someone suffering from the same medical condition, but did not know how to go about finding them. There were one or two examples of interviewees using the Web on behalf of other people, for example, to shop for them or to augment their existing knowledge. 42 "If someone says to me 'what's such and such a disease' and I've never heard of it, I can go in and get it very easily …" (C9, aged 83, a retired nurse living in a Borders village who is asked for health advice from time to time) Although most of the interviewees did not appear to use the Web to any great extent, along with e-mail, the computer itself and the additional equipment to which a computer allows access, such as scanners and digital cameras, appeared to play a role in promoting their social inclusion - and in maintaining and developing social capital. As a general point, Putnam suggests that modern society is characterised by a decline in social capital. One of the reasons for this decline he attributes to the growth in television watching (Putnam, 1995). According to Mary Marshall, older people watch "11 hours more television than the national average" (Marshall, 1990), but three of those interviewed said that they prefer to use their computer than to watch television. Most of those interviewed had some involvement in their local community and in some instances this was considerable. Robert Putnam suggests that older people in America who were born before or around the early 1930's tend to be more involved in their local communities than younger people (Putnam, 1995b). This small group of Scottish interviewees therefore may not be unusual. Their high levels of community involvement may also, in part, be due to the fact that eight have lived in the same area, in some instances in the same house, for many years. Several are members of one or more committees. One (C3) is very involved in a number of organisations, gives talks to community groups and has raised thousands of pounds for local projects. Other examples of community involvement included: leading prayer groups, undertaking lay preaching, befriending foreign students, giving lifts, giving regular help to elderly neighbours, distributing information such as committee minutes or newsletters, acting as treasurer for local groups, designing posters, organising group holidays. For those with existing community interests and commitments, their computer has become an important tool. 43 "I've been asked to do a service in one of the nursing homes in a fortnight's time. I'm beginning to work on that just now. You can print it. You can edit it and you can time it - this prayer take 2 minutes and that reading takes so long and the sermon bit will take so long - oh lord, they only want half an hour I'd better knock a bit of this off and you know - it's so quick and fast at editing - that's one of the big bonuses." (C7 - retired scientific researcher, aged 74) "She's really responsible for the exercise class. She takes the money for that for the payment for the person who runs the class - the gymnast - it's easy exercises. … And she's got all that on the computer." (C12, aged 81 - talking about his wife) Interviewees expressed different reasons for being involved - and for some there was a link between their sense of social responsibility and their church connections. One voiced his reasons for his community involvement in the following terms: "I feel you've got to put back in - you cannae keep taking out of the kitty like" (C3, aged 81 who uses his computer to support his many community activities, for example to scan photographs which are made into products to raise funds for local projects) Portes and Landolt point out that such reciprocity is an important element in the maintenance and development of social capital and one which distinguishes it from financial capital (Portes, A and Landolt, P, 1996). Being able to reciprocate becomes increasingly difficult with age. Some of those interviewed said that they would need their neighbours and friends as they grew older and this made them reluctant to call on them for help until absolutely necessary. For C3, his computer has become an important tool which allows him, in spite of his many disabilities, to replenish his stock of social capital. 44 BRIEF COMPARISONS WITH SWEDISH OLDER PEOPLE As stated in Chapter 3, due to technical and other difficulties, only a comparatively small number of usable questionnaires (31) were returned from Sweden. Of these, 5 respondents were only 69, but it was decided to include them, as so much useful information would otherwise be lost and on the basis that age is, to some extent, a construction. The average age of those who returned the questionnaires was therefore a great deal lower than that of the Scottish interviewees - 73.7 compared with 77.9. Seventeen of the Swedish respondents are male and 14 female. Differences between the two groups as regards their state of health, usage of computers, manner of learning - and the fact that only 9 (29%) live alone - could, at least in part, be attributable to their differences in age. Eleven (35.5%) of the Swedish respondents have used a computer for 10 years or more and 11 acquired computing skills through their work or while they were still working. In contrast, although 3 of the Scottish interviewees had been using a computer for very many years, none had learned to use a computer at their work place; in most cases, computers were only just beginning to be introduced when they retired. In contrast to the Scottish interviewees, all were previously employed, many in teaching or in managerial jobs. Only 3 Swedish respondents recorded problems with eyesight and 23 (74.2%) said their health was either very good or quite good. However, 16 (51.6%) recorded other health problems such as arthritis, heart attacks, diabetes, or general stiffness and slowing down. Only 3 people said they had not been able to get out and about as much as they would have liked in the previous year. There were similarities between the amount of time which interviewees and questionnaire respondents appeared to spend at the computer. Like their Scottish counterparts, none of the Swedish respondents spend more than 5 hours day at the 45 keyboard. Most - 23 (74.2%) - said they use it for less that 3 hours a day and 11 (35.5%) said they use it for less than 1 hour a day. Twenty-nine (93.5%) said they have a computer in their own home. Although this is not a representative sample, this suggests that using a computer may not result in older people spending many hours at the computer screen, avoiding contact with friends, relatives and peers. Like their Scottish counterparts, many Swedish respondents - 27 (87%) - said they use their computer for word processing etc. Twenty-four (77.4%) said they use it for email. Unlike their Scottish counterparts, however, a similarly large number said they routinely 'surf the Net' - 10 (32.2%) giving this as their main use of a computer. Of those Swedish respondents who said that they use e-mail, the largest number (75%) use it to communicate with children; 58.3% use it to communicate with grandchildren, 54.1% and 50% use it to communicate with other relatives and with friends who live far away. Whereas the Scottish interviewees said they did not use email to communicate with friends who live nearby, 58.3% of the Swedish older people said they used it for this purpose, possibly reflecting the fact that more Swedish older people have computers. A higher number of Swedish respondents five (20.8%) - also said that they communicate with people they have encountered through the Internet, who they may never have met. Three other differences were evident. One is the use made of computers in Sweden for financial transactions such as Internet banking, paying bills and dealing in stocks and shares. Five (16.1%) of Swedish respondents said this was their main reason for using a computer, whereas only one of the Scottish interviewees mentioned having an Internet bank account (for savings only) and none mentioned stocks and shares. Financial 'housekeeping' patterns therefore appear to be different in the two countries, perhaps reflecting different levels of trust in Internet security. The second difference is related to the role played by SeniorNet in the lives of questionnaire respondents. Six people (19.3%) indicated that their main use of a computer is for club activities such as helping with club business, communicating with members or maintaining the club's web page. As the questionnaires were disseminated via SeniorNet, the sample is biased and it is not possible to ascertain if 46 computer usage in Sweden promotes social contact regardless of involvement with the organisation. However, this finding does suggest that SeniorNet can play an important role in the lives of those who are connected to a SeniorNet club. This compares with the experience of those two Scottish interviewees who started to use computers through a local computer centre. Both said they would continue to use the centre, even if they were connected to the Internet at home, partly for the help and teaching available to them there and partly because they have got to know people at the centre and enjoy meeting them. The third difference is related to differences in usage of the Internet. Both groups said they valued using a computer because it provides them with a quick, cheap means of keeping in touch with friends and family and because it allows them to learn new skills. However, only one or two interviewees were interested in using the Web to any great extent. In contrast, 22 (71%) of Swedish respondents said they use the Internet, for a variety of reasons - for example, to look for information (68.2%), and to get local information (54.5%). Five (22.8%) said they talked to other people using chat rooms, whereas none of the Scottish interviewees had used a chat room at the time of interview and most did not know where they would find one. Neither group had used the Internet for food shopping or to talk to others using a web cam. Whereas cost was a consideration for the Scottish interviewees, only two Swedish people mentioned concerns about computer related costs - for example, costs of software and of being on line. Technical difficulties posed problems for both groups and some questionnaire respondents also mentioned difficulties related to the fact that English is still the most commonly used language. Both groups said they appreciated the fact that their computer provides them with meaningful activity and mental stimulation and makes tasks such as writing letters easier for them. For one person, the only thing wrong with using a computer was the fact that "it encroaches on the time I have to spend with my sweet wife!" 47 5. CONCLUSIONS Interest in the use made of computers by older people has tended to focus, sometimes with some amusement on the part of journalists and others, on the older person as "silversurfer". Any research has tended to focus on access issues or on the support needs of older people, who are defined as being as young as 50. The findings of this small study suggest that there are many other aspects of computer use by older people, specifically by those over the age of 70, which merit attention. The study looked specifically at whether using a computer maintains or promotes social inclusion and contributes to the development or maintenance of 'social capital'. Many of the interviewees' stories were punctuated by losses - the son who died shortly after graduating, work and ambitions which have had to be given up as a result of disability, lost educational opportunities, loss of access to children and grandchildren who have gone to live abroad - losses compounded by other losses. Being able to use a computer may compensate for some of the losses which accompany old age - losses which may result in the social exclusion of the person concerned. For those older people who are already contributors to the common pool of social capital, using a computer allows them to continue doing so. Loss of people Five of the interviewees had lost a spouse and, for some, a computer provided companionship and distraction - for example, during the night when they could not sleep or during the dark winter hours. Interviewees spoke of the loss of friends and peers with the passing years; those who use computer centres and clubs had formed new friendships. Those who used e-mail had extended their range of 'weak ties'. For some, the need to ask for help in maintaining or learning how to use their computer had also required them to form new relationships with neighbours and others or resulted in closer relationships with children and grandchildren. As stated in Chapter 2, modern families are frequently dispersed and some interviewees expressed sadness that their children and grandchildren are a long way 48 away. E-mail allows them to exchange messages and family photographs quickly and cheaply. Some also use e-mail to enable them to communicate, during working hours, with family members whose busy lives allow them little time to visit. Interviewees also spoke of the loss of peers and work colleagues. For at least two interviewees, use of e-mail has helped them to continue working and to remain within their chosen working community. Loss of physical abilities Disability becomes more common in older age and most interviewees described one or more impairment which makes aspects of life difficult for them. Arthritis and general stiffness and slowing down were also common among Swedish respondents. A computer can function as an 'aid to daily living' by compensating in a variety of ways: font sizes can be increased; a keyboard can be used instead of a pen and illegible handwriting is then no longer a problem. For those with difficulty remembering, e-mail messages, unlike the telephone, provide a written record of 'conversations' and of important information. For those interviewees who were dependent on spouses or others for help with the basic tasks of everyday living - such as taking a shower or doing up buttons - the computer allows them to retain areas of autonomy and, in some instances, of considerable competence. Loss of opportunities Some interviewees spoke regretfully of lost career opportunities, of having to leave school to support the family, or of having to retire prematurely from work which they enjoyed, due to health problems. For some, taking up computing at this stage of their lives appeared to be regarded as a second chance to learn. It had provided them with an opportunity - and a requirement - to master new skills - to learn to type, to use a scanner, to design a web site, to enjoy whatever meaningful activity interested them individually. For some, it also appeared to provide them with an opportunity to look forward rather than to dwell on the past, to plan for the future and to structure how they use their time. 49 Loss of identity and social status The role which employment affords is lost on retirement. One becomes simply a 'pensioner', an 'older person', a 'granny' - or now, perhaps, a 'silversurfer'. For some, use of a computer has helped them to retain something of their previous role, for example, as 'nurse informant'. Some have developed new and more socially valued roles, such as 'class assistant' - or, in the case of Swedish questionnaire respondents, 'computer club secretary' or 'club organiser'. Some interviewees have gained new respect from children and grandchildren who are admiring of their skills - some of which surpass those of younger members of the family. Others are admired by friends and neighbours who are not themselves computer users and who come to them for assistance - for example, with scanning photographs or accessing information on their behalf. Those who are most involved locally - helping other older people, serving on management committees, undertaking church commitments - are able to use their computer to continue making contributions to their community, to retain the status of giver as well as of receiver. Using a computer also makes demands of the user - problems have to be dealt with as they arise, a new 'language' has to be learned, the Internet allows access to both the good and the bad in today's world. Older age can involve loss of status as an adult, with all that that entails. Use of a computer necessitates older people staying 'grounded' within the modern world; it provides one area in which they remain unprotected from the challenges and risks which constitute ordinary adult life. Loss of individuality As stated in chapter 1, older people are sometimes regarded as a homogeneous group even though the age range which sometimes defines them spans almost half a century and potentially several generations. Services for older people are thinly spread and, as the writer Michael Ignatieff points out, "The most common criticism of modern welfare is precisely that in treating everyone the same it ends up treating everyone like a thing" (Ignatieff, M, 1994 :17). Day services and other supports are often underresourced; staff may require to spend most of their time with groups of older people, 50 rather than with individuals. However, a computer is generally used by one person at a time and interviewees described very many different ways in which they used their computers, some of which are highly individualised - such as developing a web site in order to trace ex-evacuees. Loss of income Computers are expensive 'tools' to buy and to maintain. However, in some instances they allowed individuals to continue working, long beyond retirement age. For those with limited incomes who had free access, use of a computer provided them with considerable savings, for example, in postage costs, and also with opportunities which would otherwise have been beyond their reach. IMPLICATIONS FOR SERVICE PROVIDERS AND OTHERS The major part of this research looked at the experiences of a small group of Scottish older people who share the fact that they use or are intent on becoming proficient in using a computer. They do not conform to stereotypes of older old people as technophobic or uninterested in learning how to use new technology. Some have been interested in computers for many years and have acquired considerable knowledge and skill; others have started to use a computer only very recently, sometimes with the support and encouragement of others - grandchildren, children, spouses - but in other instances almost entirely unaided. Some are enthusiastic; others see mastering the art of computing as a necessary 'chore' if they are not to be excluded. However, interviewees spoke of peers who were not interested in learning to use a computer, who had not - as they had - found a reason to learn or who perhaps had tried and given up trying. Some of those interviewed had great difficulty learning, but were determined to persist - in some instances because they believed that they would one day be housebound. There may be many other older old people who might benefit from being given the opportunity to learn computing, but who do not know what it can offer them or assume they are too old to learn; others may wish to learn, but may be unable to attend a computer centre or class, because of access or other issues; others may lack the money to buy a computer or to pay for ongoing running costs; 51 others may not know where to start and may not have supportive families to help them. Existing services could perhaps help in this respect. Although this may be changing, day centres for housebound older people have traditionally provided activities, social contact and respite for carers, rather than an opportunity for older people to learn new skills. More could perhaps be done to provide frail older people with access at those centres which already cater for their needs. Those responsible for designing and marketing computers, computer software and literature would benefit from recognising that there is an untapped market of older people. Large monitors and simplified keyboards are more expensive. Most manuals are written with younger people in mind and many are unhelpful to the absolute beginner. Older computer users may prefer abbreviated instructions, in large print. Many more older people might be encouraged to use or buy computers if they were more appropriate to their needs, or if suppliers demonstrated greater understanding of the specific requirements of their older customers. Salesmen could, for example, point out the "accessibility" options which are already available on most modern machines. The digital inclusion of older people also has implications for service providers. If an older person currently using a computer in his or her own home moves into a residential home, there is very little space for equipment. There is often no independent phone line and the small personal allowance which a resident is allowed to retain does not cover the cost of phone line rental. The rooms provided in sheltered housing are also very small and those tenants who are linked to care alarms require an additional phone line if they wish to access the Internet, resulting in considerable added expense. As a new generation of older people take the place of the older old, these issues will have to be addressed. However, a new risk then emerges. Neil Postman suggested that, with any new technological invention we should ask ourselves the question What is the problem to which this technology is the solution? (Postman, 1999). If computers are not to contribute to the social exclusion of older people, it is perhaps as well to bear in mind that the problems - described above - which older people 52 themselves experience are not the same as those with which service providers are faced on a daily basis. Service providers may see computers in the homes of older people as providing a potential cure-all, allowing them to make budget savings by reducing staff numbers. Is there a need for a Scotland-wide organisation for older people? Understandably, those interviewees who had started to learn computing late in life, who were not linked to a centre or who did not have interested and supportive relatives, appeared to have the most difficulty in learning and in coping with any problems. Only three knew other computer users of their own age. The effect of this 'digital isolation' may be seen by making comparisons with other excluded groups. Craft and Craft point out that young people with learning difficulties do not learn about sexuality because their peer group are equally unknowledgeable (Craft and Craft, 1978). It would seem that older old people may not find out about web sites or about other aspects of computing which would help them - some of which are quite simple, such as how to slow down a mouse - because older old people lack a knowledgeable peer group with whom to share information. Age Concern England has taken a lead in encouraging computer use by older people, for example, by providing a dedicated chat room. Individual centres such as the Senior Studies Institute, a branch of Strathclyde University, have developed their own initiatives and there are many examples of smaller, local projects which are much appreciated by older users. However, there is no overall organisation in the UK such as Sweden's SeniorNet. While, as stated in Chapter 2, the numbers of older people using day centres in the UK are small, one SeniorNet Sweden club wrote that they have 170 members, more than half of whom are over the age of 70. SeniorNet Sweden appears to have been particularly successful in encouraging older people to take a very active role in supporting other older people and in running the organisation and its local clubs. The potential benefits of a similar organisation in Scotland, dedicated entirely to the 'digital inclusion' of older people, may therefore merit consideration. 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These facts provide some of the context in which a study was undertaken to explore the use made of computers by "older old" people. Interest in the relationship between older people and computers has tended to focus, sometimes with some amusement on the part of journalists and others, on the older person as user of the Internet - as "silversurfer". Any academic research has tended to focus on consideration of the support needs or the problems experienced by older people using computers. "Older computer users" are generally defined as "people over the age of 50" - a denial of the fact that, if this is the case, "older age" spans a period of over 50 years and potentially three generations with very different life experiences. The study involved people over the age of 70 on the grounds that people over the age of 70 were unlikely to have started to use a computer while they were working. It first explored some of the factors which affect older people today, such as demographic changes and changes in family structures - and some of the problems which can accompany growing older, such as increased risk of disability, social isolation and ageist attitudes. Interviews were carried out with 12 older people aged 70 - 83 to try to find out whether using a computer can help to counteract some of the effects of growing older which combine to exclude older people from their communities - and whether computer use helps to maintain or promote the development of 'social capital'. 'Social capital' is an unfamiliar concept outside academic circles although the term was first used, in America, as long ago as 1916. Very briefly, social capital means the involvement of people in the civil, social and political life of their community; it encompasses the network of connections among people which benefit both individuals and the community as a whole. In recent years social 60 scientists have been concerned that, for reasons such as increased television watching, people are less involved in their communities and social capital in the western world is on the decline. People over the age of 70 have been shown to contribute most to the pool of social capital, but they are also likely to need to draw from it as their needs increase with age. Part of the study was carried out with the co-operation of people in Sweden. Sweden has an organisation called SeniorNet, similar to SeniorNet in America, which was set up to encourage the "digital inclusion" of older people. SeniorNet Sweden has over 40 local groups whose members meet to support other older people to learn how to use computers. SeniorNet groups were asked to encourage their members to complete a questionnaire which was available both by e-mail and from a Web site. The response was poor - only 31 questionnaires were returned - but nevertheless some tentative comparisons were able to be made. What did the study find out? Seven women and five men were interviewed. Some had started using computers many years ago; others had only recently taken up computing, some with the encouragement of their families. Two wanted to learn solely from a concern that they would otherwise be excluded. Two people had started with the help of Craigmillar Community Information Service (http://www.ccis.org.uk), Edinburgh organisation which promotes digital inclusion (which they continue to use for support and social contact - and free Internet access, in spite of having computers in their own homes). One of the interviewees was very fit; the other eleven each had disabilities and health problems, some of them very severe. Their working lives ranged from "housewife", with no experience of paid employment, to "senior academic". Most live in the city of Edinburgh, two live 10 miles outside the city and one in a country village in the Scottish borders. All twelve talked about their work, their families, disappointments and achievements, and the role which computers now played in their lives. In spite of their individual differences, there were many common elements. All had some concern about the costs of buying and repairing a computer and of being on line. Many had found it difficult to get appropriate teaching - younger teachers often failing to understand their need to be taught at a slower pace, 61 one step at a time. Disabilities such as arthritis were common, requiring some ingenuity to overcome and making use of a mouse, for example, more difficult. Most did not know anyone of their own age who was using a computer. Most used their computer for word processing, scanning photographs, and e-mailing, rather than for surfing the Internet although one had her own Web site and a second person planned to develop one. None used it for Internet shopping, or to talk to people in chat rooms. Swedish people who responded to the questionnaire tended to be slightly younger - although one SeniorNet group wrote that they had 170 members, half of whom are over 70. Swedish users appeared to make much greater use of the Internet, for a variety of purposes - such as accessing bank accounts and dealing in stocks and shares, neither of which featured in the Scottish interviews. What conclusions were made? Many of the older peoples' stories were punctuated by losses loss of contact with children and grandchildren who have gone to live abroad, husbands and older friends who have died, work and ambitions which had to be given up as a result of disability, lost educational opportunities - losses often compounded by other losses. The study came to the conclusion that being able to use a computer may compensate for some of the losses which accompany old age. A computer can help to pass the time during the night and distract the user from the sadness of bereavement. E-mail allows the easy exchange of messages and family photographs and enables casual friendships to be maintained, regardless of distance. Word-processed letters can be easier to write if hands are arthritic - and are more easily read by the person receiving them. E-mailed messages provide a written record for those with difficulty remembering or hearing a telephone conversation. Font sizes can be increased for those with visual problems. The demands of learning provide intellectual stimulation - and the sense that one is making an effort to guard against the onset of dementia. For some of those interviewed, taking up computing had provided them with a second chance to learn - an opportunity to master new skills such as typing or scanning. Being able to do something as well or better than younger family members was a source of pride and self esteem. For two people, using a computer contributed to 62 their being able to continue to work, in spite of considerable physical difficulties. Some interviewees depended on spouses or others for help with personal care needs, such as doing up buttons or taking a shower. Using a computer, however, allowed them to retain an area of competence and independence. It also afforded their carer some respite from the responsibilities of caring. Some of those interviewees who were most involved with their local communities used their computer to continue this involvement - for example, to help them make products for fund-raising, to write committee minutes, to keep financial and other records. However, the older people interviewed also described some of the hurdles they had had to overcome. Examples were given of salespeople who had been unhelpful and uninterested, suggesting that the computer purchasing power of older people is as yet unrecognised. Some of those interviewed had great difficulty learning, but were determined to persist - in some instances because they believed they would one day be housebound. Although some had friends and acquaintances who had expressed an interest in learning how to use a computer, they knew others who were frightened of learning or who had tried and given up, or who knew nothing about computers and what they have to offer. Many countries in the western world provide services which attempt to counteract the isolating effects of older age - in Britain, for example, housebound older people are generally accommodated in day care centres. However, very small percentages of older people make use of these facilities and, because of staffing levels and other reasons, day care centres do not tend, in their current form, to provide an environment for lifelong learning. Computers can provide a tool for lifelong learning; they can help to promote the social inclusion of older people, regardless of any disabilities. Using a computer may also allow an older person to continue contributing to their community, to give as well as to take from the stock of 'social capital'. However, older old people using computers in Scotland are few and lacking in peers 63 with similar interests and knowledge. Only the confident or the determined may manage to acquire the necessary expertise. Given the success of SeniorNet in Sweden in involving older people, both locally and nationally, by providing them with a reason (computer learning) for them to come together - and the opportunity to learn at low cost - the study therefore ends with the question: Is there a need for a similar Scotland-wide organisation for older people? 64 INTERVIEWEES - DETAILS C1 is a widow, aged 82. She lives in a village approximately 10 miles from Edinburgh. She was a nurse and subsequently became the manager of a nursing home. She is very much concerned with her community and is heavily involved in her local church. She runs study groups in her home from time to time. She has a great deal of contact with her three sons and her grandchildren, who all visit regularly. Encouraged by friends and family, she started to use a computer approximately 6 months ago, to communicate with her daughter who works in the Far East. She did not know anyone in her age group who uses a computer although she said she knew several who were interested in learning. C2 reluctantly admitted to being 82. He lives with his wife in a bungalow in a suburb of Edinburgh. He and his wife had their own acting school and he was a leading member of the acting world. They have no children. He had to give up his business when he suddenly became very ill some years ago. He needs a great deal of help with dressing etc. from his wife, which he clearly finds frustrating. He bought a computer approximately six months ago, but is in the early stages of learning - initially through classes, but now by means of home tuition. He knew no-one else in his age group with a computer. C3 is a widower of 81 who has lived all his life in the same small Edinburgh community in which he is very involved. He has been using a computer for approximately 2 years, largely self taught. He is very keen on photography and uses his computer equipment to raise funds for local community projects. Arthritis resulted in his retirement from the Merchant Navy after the War and he ended his career as manager in an engineering firm. He has numerous health problems and more than once has been near to death. He has one son with whom he does not appear to be close. (He mentioned many other people during the interview, but not his son.) He did not know any other people in his age group using computers. 65 C4 is 77. She is a widow who has lived for many years on a Council estate approximately 10 miles outside Edinburgh. She has a large family with whom she has a strained relationship. She was a clerical worker all her working life, but still resents the fact that she had very little opportunity to access education as a younger woman. She is largely self educated, has a strong interest in education and was proud of the fact that she sat her Higher English in her 50's. She does not have a computer in her own home, but uses the computers at two local libraries. She has attended various computing classes, but found most of them unsatisfactory. She did not know of anyone else in her age group who is using a computer. C5 is 83 and unmarried. She earned a living as a self-employed writer of text books and still works a little. She moved to Edinburgh 33 years ago and lives in a second floor flat in a Victorian tenement. She has no relatives, but many friends and contacts in the academic world. She is involved in one or two organisations and is a committee member of one of them. Recognising that computers had become an essential tool of academic life, she started to use one some years ago. She is happy to use her computer for word processing, but is frustrated by her slow progress in other areas - with e-mail in particular. She is also concerned that becoming more proficient may lead to her spending too much time at the keyboard. She knew one person in her age group who uses a computer (C8). C6 is 71 and her husband is 73. Because C6 suffers from rheumatoid arthritis they live in a sheltered housing complex, in a very small, but comfortable flat. Their one bedroom is well equipped with computer, scanner, new printer etc. They both became interested in computers about 20 years ago, mainly for games playing. C6 is the principal user of the computer and she has developed many skills, particularly around "touching up" old family photographs and cataloguing them for the benefit of the rest of the family, some of whom live abroad. She was a clerical worker until she was medically retired. Her husband, who was a taxi driver, provides her with personal care such as help to take a shower and he also acts as her chauffeur. He was extremely proud of his wife's skills. They did not know anyone else in their age group who uses a computer. 66 C7 is a retired scientific researcher, aged 74. He is married, in good health and lives in a pleasant, fairly affluent part of Edinburgh. He bought his first computer about 15 years ago and has upgraded periodically since then. He is very involved with his local church and with organisations in the community and uses the computer for his community commitments, for writing minutes and sermons. He also uses it to keep in touch with his son in America and with foreign students whom he and his wife have got to know through a voluntary organisation established to link Scottish people with foreigners who are studying in this country. Some of them help him when he has problems with his computer. He knew only one other person in his age group using a computer - his next door neighbour, to whom he had sold his old computer. C8, who is a friend of C5, is in her early 80's. She is unmarried, a retired senior academic who came to this country just before the Second World War. She has no relatives in this country. C8 is the most disabled of the 12 interviewees. She has been very ill, and can do very little for herself, but is able to cope at home with the help of workers from private agencies. She uses a wheelchair when she is outside and requires a walking aid when moving around her flat. Having recognised the dangers of being excluded if she did not learn to use a computer, she enrolled in a computer course with the Open University last year and was one of only 7 (out of 20) to complete the course. This was delivered entirely on line and involved designing a web site. C8 is heavily involved with a local educational organisation for older people. C9 lives in a village in the Borders. She is 83, a widow, and a retired nurse. She was given a Palm Pilot by her grandson for her 80th birthday and, with the encouragement of family members, some of whom live abroad and work in the computer industry, progressed to becoming interested in computers. She has attended various courses, some of which have proved more useful to her than others, and she is now very competent. C9 has various health problems, but is still able to drive. Her nearest shops are 1 mile away and the bus service is poor. She knew one or two people in her age group who used computers or who were at an early stage of trying to learn. C10 is 73. His ill health resulted in his early retirement from his last job, as a security guard. (He started his working life as a miner at age 14.) He suffers from a neurological medical condition which prevents him from doing many of the physical 67 activities which he had expected to enjoy in his retirement. His wife, who suffers from macular degeneration which prevents her from attempting to use a computer, encouraged him to take up computing because he had become very depressed. He was doubtful of his own ability to learn, but he is now fairly confident. He uses computers at a local project, but also has one on loan at home. C10 has lived in the same part of Edinburgh for many years. He and his wife have one son, living in the Far East with his wife and children, and they miss them very much. They know other older people using computers at the same project, one of whom is C11. C11 is a widow, aged 70, who suffers from emphysema and other health problems. As a child she missed out on education because she was required to stay at home to look after her brothers and sisters. When she subsequently married she was discouraged from going out to work by her husband. He later became disabled and she cared for him for a number of years, until his death. She learned to use a computer at the same project as C10 and still goes there regularly. She was evacuated during the war and became interested in learning how to use a computer when she realised it would help her with her ambition to contact other ex-evacuees. Prior to this she thought that computers were only for games. She has her own web site. Like C10, she knows the other older people at the project where they both still go on a regular basis. She has a computer at home, but not connected to the Internet because, she said, she cannot afford to pay the connection costs. C12 is 81. He worked in insurance and is still involved in this in a minor way. He and his wife have lived in the same suburban house for many years. He is very involved with the local community, in a variety of ways. He and his wife became interested in computers when their only son was a boy, many years ago and he has become increasingly proficient over the years, mainly self taught. C12 has considerable health problems, as does his wife, but they both use the computer, he more than his wife, mainly as a working tool to help them with their community commitments, but also for booking holidays, making some purchases, and storing information. C12 did not know anyone in his age group who was using a computer. Mean age = 77.9 years 68 QUESTIONNAIRE ABOUT OLDER PEOPLE, COMPUTERS AND THE INTERNET (translated into Swedish and provided as an attachment in addition to the Web-based questionnaire Can you help me with my research into older people and how they use computers? Who am I? My name is Melanie. I am 51 years old. I live in Scotland and work in Edinburgh, but I am studying for a Masters in Applied Social Research at Stirling University. As part of my job I have been helping older people (aged 70 – 90+) to be able to use computers and the Internet. I would like to find out more about how people aged 70+ are using computers and the Internet and whether it makes people feel “included” as they get older. There is no organisation like SeniorNet in Scotland so I am starting by trying to find out about older people in Sweden by means of a questionnaire. I will then use what I find out to interview some older people in Scotland. I would be very grateful if you would take the time to fill in this questionnaire. It will only take a few minutes. Thank you very much! 69 QUESTIONNAIRE ABOUT OLDER PEOPLE, COMPUTERS AND THE INTERNET PLEASE COMPLETE THIS QUESTIONNAIRE ONLY IF YOU ARE AGED 70 YEARS OLD OR OLDER. 1. First, can you tell me about you. (Please put an X in only one of the boxes.) Are you: Male Female 2. Date of birth? 3. Are you still in paid employment? Yes No If not, what was your last main occupation? 4. Do you live alone? Yes No If you answered "Yes", go to question 4 (a). If you answered "No", go to question 5. 4(a) If you live alone, do you have as much contact with other people as you want? Yes No 70 5. Please put an X in the box which best describes your health in the last year. My health has been very good in the last year My health has been quite good in the last year My health has not been very good in the last year My health has been very poor – I have had a lot of health problems 6. Do you have any disabilities? (Please put an X in the box if you can answer “yes” to any of these questions.) (a) Do you have problems with your eyesight? (b) Do you have problems with your hearing? (c) Do you have arthritis or Parkinsons Disease or some other disabling or painful condition? 6 (d) If you put an X in box (c) could you tell me about your health problem. 7. Have you been able to get out and about as much as you would have liked in the last year? (Please put an X in one box only.) “I have been able to get out and about as much as I wanted.” “I have not always been able to get out and about as much as I wanted.” “I have rarely been able to get out and about.” 71 You and Computers 8. Approximately how long have you been using computers? 9. How much time do you spend using computers? less than 1 hour a day between 1 hour and 3 hours a day between 3 hours and 5 hours a day more than 5 hours a day 10. Do you have a computer in your own home? Yes No 10 (a) If you answered “No” to question 10, where do you use a computer? (Please put an X beside all that apply). Internet café Centre for older people College Community Centre Other (please specify) 72 11. Why did you start to use a computer? 12. What do you use computers for? (Please put an X beside all that apply). Computer applications such as desk top publishing, word processing, drawing, accounting etc. playing games on your own the Internet e-mail 13. If you use e-mail, who do you e-mail? (Please put an X beside all that apply). If you do not use e-mail, please go to question 15 Son(s)/daughter(s) Grandchildren Other relatives Friends who live near Friends who live a long way away People who have become friends via the Internet, who you may never met Others 73 14a). About how many e-mails have you sent to friends or relatives in the last month? 14b). About how many e-mails have you received from friends or relatives in the last month? 15. If you use the Internet, what do you use it for? (Please put an X beside all that apply). If you do not use the Internet, please go to question 16. exchanging information, photographs etc. learning/studying getting local information – about local events etc. getting other information – e.g. about health matters etc food shopping shopping for other things playing games with other people talking to people in chat rooms talking to people via a web camera downloading music campaigning Anything else? 74 16. Please tell me the 3 things which you use computers for most often. 1 2 3 17. What does using a computer provide you with? (Please put an X beside all that apply to you) people to talk to friends a way to pass the time a way to keep in touch with friends/family a way to keep in touch with the local community a way to keep in touch with national or world affairs a way to do things for myself (which I would otherwise need someone else to help me with) a feeling of being able to do the same things as other people an opportunity to learn new skills Anything else? 18. Do you talk to friends, relatives or others about using computers and the Internet? 75 Yes No The following questions are for people who have started using computers since they stopped working. (If you began to use a computer at your work, go to question 22a) 19. How did you learn to use a computer? I learned by myself, just by trying. I went to computer classes I paid for someone to teach me at home I did a computer course by myself at home (for example, through the Internet) My friends/relatives taught me Any other ways that you learned/are learning to use computers? 20a). Were you anxious about learning to use a computer? (Please put an X in one of the boxes) Yes (a little) Yes (a lot) No 20b). Are you still anxious about learning? Yes (a little) Yes (a lot) No 21a). Were you anxious about the computer going wrong? Yes (a little) 76 Yes (a lot) No 21b). Are you still anxious about the computer going wrong? Yes (a little) Yes (a lot) No 22a). If you have your own computer, how easy is it for you to get any help you need with the computer equipment? (If you don't have your own computer, go to question 23.) Very easy Quite easy Not very easy Difficult 22b). If you have your own computer, how easy is it for you to get any help you need with extra teaching? Very easy Quite easy Not very easy Difficult 23. Is there anything which makes it difficult for you to use a computer? 24. What are the best things for you about using a computer? 77 25. What are the worst things for you about using a computer? 26. Would you be willing for me to contact you by e-mail for further details? Yes No If Yes, please could you give me your e-mail address Thank you very much for your help 78 Gender Age M - 17 (54.8%) F - 14 (43.7%) Mean: Median: Mode: Range: Total number of respondees - 31 Employment 73.7 73 69 69-82 Still in paid employment - 0 Last jobs Teaching (5), managerial (7), foreman (1), nursing (1), secretarial/office worker (5), technician (2), civil engineer (1), self-employed/business (2), childminder (1), interior decorator (1), naval officer (1) fosterhomes inspector (1), accountant (1), head teacher (1), insurance salesman (1) Health Impairments etc Able to get out and about Very good -12 (38.7%) Quite good -11 (35.5%) Poor -3 (9.7%) Problems with eyesight (3) Problems with hearing (7) Other health problems* (16) *e.g. arthritis, heart problems, rheumatism Diabetes, asthma and , general stiffness/slowness Not able to get out as much as wished in past year (3) Blank -5 Blank (12) 79 USE OF A COMPUTER Time spent using PC > 1 hour a day 1- 3 hrs a day 3 - 5 hrs a day Blank Have a PC at home? 11 - (35.5%) 12 - (38.7%) 5 - (16.1%) 3 What they use a computer for. Yes - 29 (93.5%) (2 also use one elsewhere e.g seniors' centre, library) 2 use computers at an IT café, seniors' centre or at the houses of friends Why they began to use a PC Other reasons mentioned by individuals through work or partly through work curiosity to keep up interest - in technology etc given a PC as a present (1 for 80th birthday) 11 4 3 3 3 Word processing, spreadsheets etc. Using e-mail Surfing the Net Playing games alone word processing Internet club work, treasurer to make work easier fun, stimulation to learn something new e-mail genealogy social involvement word processing - e.g. to write a book, letters, minutes etc practical and interesting "because it is a wonderful tool" E-MAILS - 24 people (77.4%) said they use e-mail No. of e-mails sent in last month No. of e-mails received in last m 1-5 (5 people) 6-10 (7 people ) 11-15 (2 people) 16-20 (3 people) 21-30 (4 people) <30 (2 - who said they sent more than 100) Don't know (1 person) 1-5 (5 people) 6-10 (7 people) 11-15 (2 people) 16-20 (3 people) 21-30 (4 people) <30 (2 - who said they receive mo Don't know (1 person) 80 Who people send e-mails to 18 people said they send e-mails to children 14 people said they send e-mails to grandchildren 13 people said they send e-mails to other relatives 14 people said they send e-mails to friends who live nearby 12 people said they send e-mails to friends who live far away 5 people said they send e-mails to people they have "met" through the Internet 13 people said they send e-mails to others e.g. fellow students on courses (75%) (58.3%) (54.1%) (58.3%) (50%) (20.8%) (54.1%) 81 USE OF THE INTERNET 22 people (71%) said they use the Internet WHAT COMPUTER IS USED The facilities they use exchanging information, photographs etc learning/studying getting local information getting other information e.g. about health matters food shopping shopping for other things playing games with other people talking to people via chat rooms talking to people via a web camera downloading music campaigning - 11 (50%) - 12 (54.5%) - 12 (54.5%) - 15 (68.2%) - None - 4 (18.2%) - 1 (4.5%) - 5 (22.8%) - None - 2 (9.9%) - 2 (9.9%) looking for information - surf e-mailing word processing (not always clear whether e-m processing used) club activities - e.g. helping in communicating with members people on courses etc, making the club web page playing games banking, paying bills, dealing & shares writing minutes reading daily newspapers Other uses of a computer mentioned by individuals: web sites; writing to newspapers; downloading programmes; following TV and TV recipes; crosswords; checking out auctions, prices; encyclopaedia; Photoshop; writi playing patience; playing bridge with someone else via the Net; networking (local community? - virtual?) genealogy/writing family histories; reading sailing reports 82 What does using a computer provide you with? An opportunity to learn new skills A way to keep in touch with friends/family A way to keep in touch with national or world affairs A way to keep in touch with the local community Friends A way to pass the time People to talk to A feeling of being able to do the same as other people Being able to do things for myself (independence) Other - 23 (74%) - 19 (61%) - 16 (52%) - 14 (45%) - 12 (39%) - 9 (29%) - 8 (26%) - 7 (23%) - 6 (19%) access to local, national and f facility to attend to club tasks facility to improve skills and computers & IT facility to pay bills via the Ne mental stimulation social contact via computer c amusement work tool facility to do book-keeping & (pre-retirement?) private & group teaching Do you talk to other people about computers? Respondents were asked if they talked to friends, relatives and others about using computers Yes - 26 (83.9%); No - 4 (12.9%); Blank - 1 83 LEARNING, ANXIETIES ABOUT LEARNING etc. How and where respondees learned to use a computer Anxieties about learning. Continuin Through work or partly through work Attended computer course(s) Self taught Taught by family and friends Other methods mentioned included: books, reading, trial and error Still very Still quite Not anxio N/A (9) Blank (2) - 11 (35.5%) - 12 (38.7%) - 8 (25.8%) - 5 (16.1%) Very anxious (1) Some anxieties (7) Not anxious (13) N/A (e.g. learned through work (9) Blank (1) Anxieties about the computer going wrong. Continuing anxieties. Very anxious (3) Some anxieties (9) Not anxious (8) N/A (9) Blank (2) Very anxious (0) Some anxieties (2) Not anxious (19) N/A (9) Blank (1) How easy is it for you to get help with extra teaching? How easy is it for you to get help with the co Very easy (3) quite easy (13) not very easy (4) very difficult (1) N/A (2) Blank (8) Very easy (2) quite easy (11) not very easy (5) very difficult (0) N/A (2) Blank (11) 84 POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES OF USING A COMPUTER Best things about using a computer Difficulties/most frustrating things about convenience - being able to easily write letters, minutes, make copies etc (7) fun (4) keeping up with the times & new developments (2) provides meaningful occupation (local SeniorNet club) mental stimulation (2) "window to the world"(1) relaxation (1) don't know (1) speed of sending e-mail (1) genealogy (1) nothing - no difficulties (7) when it goes wrong, technical problems delays (4) English text software- e.g. technical ter out in Swedish) (2) cost of being on line, cost of software (2 time taken from doing other things (2) that one sits too long (2) the printer and speakers take up too mu viruses (1) difficulties in knowing which is the bes software for the task (1) problems because of having a Macintos having to wait for help if things go wro all the junk mail (1) 85 INTERVIEW SCHEDULE - SEMI-STRUCTURED INTERVIEW Background This interview schedule was used during individual, semi-structured interviews with 12 older people (over the age of 70). Interviews took place in the interviewees' own homes. Aim The aim of each interview was to explore the role played by computers in maintaining or developing relationships within the interviewee's social networks. The questions were devised to explore ground similar to that covered in the questionnaire used with older people in Sweden, but in very much greater depth. Introduction Thank you for agreeing to let me interview you. As I said in my letter/phone call, I am interviewing older people who are using computers, as part of a report I am writing for a course I have been doing at Stirling University. First of all, can I say you that you will remain completely anonymous and no records of the interview will be kept with your name on them. Would you mind if I taped the interview? This is only for me - so that I don’t have to try to remember everything you and tell me and so that I do not have to take notes while we are talking. I will clear the tape once I have finished making notes from it. QUESTIONS To start with, would you mind telling me what sort of work you used to do? a) Last main occupation(s). Prompts: what the job(s) involved; level of responsibility - whether they used computers at work. b) Whether work provided a network of friends and social contacts. c) When he/she retired. What they have been doing with their retirement. Prompts: do they do voluntary or paid work now and if so, what that entails. Other interests/plans. (Whether the way they pass their time brings them in touch with other people, regardless of their use of computers.) 86 Personal details. a) Age. b) Whether they live alone/married etc. Prompts (if live alone) whether they see as much of other people as they want. c) Sons/daughters; other relatives. Prompts: relationships with relatives; how often they see one or more of them Health a) General state of health over the past year. b) Any disabilities. Prompts: hearing, sight; arthritis; anything which has prevented them getting out and about etc. Use of computers 4.1.Where/why etc? a) Why they started to use a computer (role of family/friends in this). b) Approximately how long they have been using a computer. c) How they learned/are learning. d) Whether they have their own computer or use it elsewhere and if so, where. Prompts: whether use of a computer brings them into contact with other people - e.g. if they use a computer in a community setting; if a family member helps them with their computer and if their contact with this person has or has not increased as a result. e) How much time they spend on a computer every day. 87 4.2. What they use computers for - contact with other people a) The sorts of things they use a computer for. Prompts: any use of computer applications which bring them into contact with other people e.g. doing a newsletter for a group. b) The sorts of things they use e-mail for - list. Prompts: approximate number of e-mails received/sent from/to friends & relatives weekly. Discuss why they use e-mail and ease/difficulty of use. Discuss use of e-mail in comparison with letters/telephone. c) The sorts of things they use the Internet for. Prompts: any use of the Internet which brings them into contact with other people e.g. studying; playing games with others; chat rooms & discussion groups; use of web cams; campaigning etc. Anything they would like to use it for - why they don't. d) What they use a computer for most. e) Whether they ever find themselves talking about computers with other people. 4.3. Difficulties? a) Any initial anxieties about using a computer/their feelings now. Prompts: what were they anxious about - the equipment/their own lack of knowledge etc. b) Were they/are they able to get whatever help they need/needed - with equipment (if they have their own computer) and with teaching. c) Anything which makes it difficult for them to use a computer. 4.4. Views of use of a computer a) Discuss what using a computer provides them with. Prompts: people to talk to, friends, pastime, keep in touch - who with? A way of keeping in touch with local/national/world affairs; independence; feeling of being able to do the same as other people; new skills etc. The best/worst things about using a computer. b) What role they see a computer playing in their life as they get older. c) Any other older people they know who are using computers - if so, ask for details. d) Any advice/ anything they would want to say to other older people who are thinking of starting to use a computer. e) Anything else they would like to say about using a computer. 88 Thank you very much for giving up your time. I enjoyed talking to you. I am planning to write a short, 2 page summary of the report? It will be some time before it is ready, but when it is, would you like a copy? 89