Crab and Lobster (C & L) Working Group Minutes of Meeting – 30 September 2009 Hilton Hotel, Edinburgh Airport Attendees Alan Coghill (Chair) Jamie Combe Helen Dobby Sarah Holmyard Chris Leakey Duncan MacInnes Gregor McKenzie Malcolm Morrison Rob Roberts David Shiel Grahame Sinclair Alex Watt Libby Woodhatch Apologies: Stewart Crichton, James Willox, Lachie Murray INTRODUCTION 1. Chairman Alan Coghill opened the meeting, thanked everyone for attending and recorded apologies. PREVIOUS MEETING’S MINUTES 2. The minutes were passed as a correct record and Alan invited Rob Roberts to run through the action points and other outstanding issues. ACTION PLAN & GENERAL UPDATE 3. Rob gave an update on shellfish waste disposal regulations. Sheila Voas (Scottish Government Veterinary Division) advises that new EU regulations on disposal of animal by-product waste from processing would take effect in January 2011. A derogation has been secured which means that clean shells will be exempt from the animal by-products controls when they do take effect. The draft regulation states that it shall not apply to “shells from shellfish with the soft tissue and flesh removed”. 4. Although welcoming this news Grahame Sinclair was concerned about how useful the derogation would be if it required the shells to be entirely clean of tissue as that is difficult for crab processors to achieve. He asked that Marine Scotland continue to discuss this issue with the Veterinary Division and with SEPA and seek a pragmatic approach to enforcing these regulations. ACTION POINT – Marine Scotland to seek further information on the application and enforcement of these regulations. UPDATE ON CADMIUM 5. Rob gave an update on the issue of cadmium levels in crab meat and the potential public health concerns raised by Italian food authorities which have stopped allowing the import of crab. Marine Scotland has been in correspondence on this issue with the Food Standards Agency. The FSA has advised that is well known that the brown meat of crabs contains higher levels of cadmium than the white meat. However, although there is a regulatory limit for cadmium in the white meat, no such limit exists for brown meat and this is the basis for Italian concern. In discussion, the group raised two points of particular concern: (i) the possibility of a change in testing procedure to include the brown meat in calculation of a safe level and (ii) the potential loss of consumer confidence should the media run a negative story about cadmium and crab meat. UPDATE ON LATENT CAPACITY 6. Jamie gave an update on latent capacity figures which had been requested at the previous meeting. Figures supplied from Sea Fisheries Licensing staff had been circulated to attendees and indicated that 797 Scottish vessels had made use of their Shellfish entitlement to catch Crab & Lobster in the first 6 months of 2009. However, that left a further 602 who had the entitlement but had not fished for Crab & Lobster. On closer examination of the figures Duncan & Gregor suggested that the dedicated crab and lobster fleet was probably about half the total number of vessels that had fished for those species. Although the group agreed these figures were a reasonable guide to the level of latent capacity, some suggested that the figures should be reproduced later in the year to take account of the late summer/autumn fishing which is the peak period for crab and lobster. Additionally, when the figures are re-produced Jamie agreed to try and get some UK figures and to breakdown the figures by tonnage. 8. Duncan said he was a member of the Licence Review Working Group and the issue of latent capacity in the crab & lobster sector had been raised there. He said officials on the group were awaiting advice from lawyers on the legality of withdrawing the entitlement from licences that had not been actively fishing for crabs and lobsters in recent years. There was some discussion amongst the group and an agreement that entitlement should be based on having a track record of catching crab and lobster in the recent past. It should be done retrospectively and not announced as happening from a date in the future as boats would take the opportunity to “re-activate” their entitlement just to keep their options open. Gregor pointed to the shift in effort to nephrops from whitefish in the North East as an example of what could happen to the crab and lobster sector if latent capacity remains and other management or marketing pressures begin to force nephrops and whitefish boats to find new fishing opportunities. ACTION POINT – Marine Scotland to re-produce figures taking account of the rest of the year, the vessel tonnage and the UK position. Also to discuss further with colleagues in LRWG. UPDATE ON VOLUNTARY CODE OF CONDUCT 9. Jess Sparks of Seafood Scotland had issued the Seafish Best Practice Guide to a handful of members with a view to it forming the core of a new code of conduct. Libby said the feedback received regarding the content had been positive. However, the general feeling was the document was a bit too large and too heavy on detail for the purposes of a code of conduct. It was agreed that the information within the guide was accurate but Seafood Scotland were asked to summarise it and make it more accessible and user friendly with guidance from the group on which parts should be used in a code of conduct. Action Point – Seafood Scotland to summarise the best practice guide into a shorter format seeking advice from Crab & Lobster group on what the key points should be. BUDGET UPDATE 10. Rob announced that the budget allocated for the work of the crab and lobster group for this financial year had been confirmed as £30k. SCIENCE UPDATE 11. Helen went over Marine Scotland Science’s latest Crab & Lobster projects. On data collection, Helen said that Susan Lusseau was leading on a new EU funded project. A project meeting is being held in the next few months. 12. The crab tagging project for the North Coast has secured funding for another year and the next round of tagging will begin during October. 13. Finally, Helen said that the update on stock status was now in production and should be completed in late 2009 or early 2010. Chris added that SNH have a project underway to try and co-ordinate and rationalise data collection with colleagues in Marine Scotland Science with a view to mapping fishing activity and effort an a Scotland wide basis. Grahame and Alan suggested that it was important to try and increase science on crab stocks down the east and west coasts as well as the north and islands. LOBSTER MARKET SITUATION & MARKETING 14. Grahame reported there had been a glut of lobster across the board this summer with boats reported to be discarding up to 70% of what they were catching with a lot of juveniles in that figure. This glut may be the result of increased water temperature or a reduction in the number of predators. He added that most businesses were likely to have plenty of lobsters in their storage tanks for the winter market. Prices were down over the summer due to a weak European market with some processors paying £6.50 - £7.00 per kilo to the boats. The situation is now improving and the prices are increasing weekly but are unlikely to reach peak Christmas prices of the past. Alan suggested that it would be useful if Seafood Scotland could look at some marketing strategies for lobster and Sarah agreed to look at that. Action Point – Sarah to produce some marketing suggestions targeted at lobster TRANSNATIONAL UPDATE 15. Crick Carlton of Nautilus Consultants joined the meeting to cover this agenda item. Crick described how his company had been engaged to produce a Brown Crab Study funded by SFF and Seafish and commissioned by the Transnational Crab Group. Crick has been tasked to look at the Brown Crab industry across the UK and Ireland and in order to get a feeling for the grass roots of the industry he has held 6 regional meetings with the Scottish meeting held recently in Inverness. Crick felt the key concerns of those who attended the Inverness meeting related to direct management action with restrictions on effort and latent capacity chief amongst them. Rob said there was no doubt that reducing latent capacity was recognised as a top priority for this sector and Licence Review Working Group was the best opportunity to push for a change. ACCREDITATION 16. Libby spoke about the work Seafood Scotland has done in supporting the accreditation attempts of the Pelagic group and NS Nephrops & Haddock group. She explained how important it was that a clear client group was defined and the approach taken by the above was to formally set up a company that incorporated and managed the entire client group with individual appointed within the company to liaise with the assessors. 17. Libby added that it was essential to have funding secured not only for the initial assessment and accreditation but for the ongoing costs of the annual surveillance audit and in year 5 a full re-assessment. 18. Crick spoke about his experiences of accreditation and listed what he saw as the areas of weakness the crab sector would have to tackle if they were to be successful in gaining accreditation on a national basis. Particular issues he raised were: no evidence of responsive fisheries management in brown crab sector, need to be able to show that effort and catch be controlled and reduced as necessary; to trigger mechanism for signalling that stock is unhealthy; only partial scientific data is available, there is no consistent process to monitor stock level; no consistent record of Catch Per Unit Effort; no Harvest Control rule; of 31 assessment measures Crick advised that he felt the crab sector would fail at least 6 of them if they were assessed now. 19. Alan felt Crick painted a somewhat pessimistic picture of the prospects for gaining accreditation and though he felt it was clearly a challenging task he said none of the obstacles raised were insurmountable. He reminded the group that in order to maintain supply to certain retailers in the coming years accreditation was going to be a necessity not just an option. 20. There followed a discussion amongst the group regarding the issues that had been raised with particular difficulties identified as the creation of a nationwide client group and finding a way to fund it. Duncan suggested a levy system could be introduced so vessels would pay via their buyers/processors with the cost being so low when spread across all the boats that there probably wouldn’t be too much opposition. Crick suggested making use of the Scottish Industry Science Partnership (SISP) to bring science issues up to MSC standard within a year or so. 21. Alan concluded the discussion on accreditation by suggesting that the Strategy Group ought to be consulted to make sure we have their backing to take this work forward. It was generally agreed that going forward for pre-assessment would be a good way of pinning down the exact improvements that would need to be made if a full assessment was to prove a success. Perhaps the £30k budget of the group could be tapped into to fund pre-assessment. CRAB MARKETING 22. Sarah tabled a paper which summarised the promotional activity for Crab products carried out by Seafood Scotland over the last 6 months. Seven different events had been targeted the most significant of which is the Bocuse D’Or culinary competition, the final of which will be held in January 2011. For the first time the Bocuse D’Or will showcase Scottish Seafood including Crab in the final having previously tended to use Norwegian seafood which was seen to have a significant benefit to Norwegian exports. Marketing materials will be specifically developed for the Bocuse D’Or along with a focussed publicity and press campaign. 23. Sarah also brought along samples of promotional leaflets that have been produced for Crabs. These were welcomed by the group and were thought to represent excellent value with 40,000 leaflets produced for around £1600. There were a couple of minor suggestions to correct the wording on the leaflet but other than that they were ready to go to print. The leaflet can be tailored to become specific for individual processors and they will be ready to be used at the BBC Good Food Show. Grahame suggested some should be translated into French for the Bocuse D’Or. ACTION POINT – Sarah to make the corrections to wording on the leaflets and go ahead with print production. ANY OTHER BUSINESS 24. Duncan mentioned the recommendations for the Crab and Lobster sector arising from the Profitable Futures Group. Some of their recommendations tie in with the work of our Crab & Lobster group including the pursuit of accreditation and delivery of a code of good practice. Next Meeting 25. Ideally, the next meeting should be held in mid to late January, avoiding the last week of the month. A back to back meeting with the Strategy Group may be looked at to cut down on travel for attendees. Sea Fisheries Policy Marine Scotland October 2009