Oifig na bPaitinní Irish Patents Office Project: M 710 Rapporteur Proposal Rapporteur was requested to examine the suitability of the reference in C07C 69/00, pointing to ‘the relevant groups’, to se whether the reference could be replaced by a note or by a proper limiting reference. The group C07C 69/00 exists under a guidance heading for the groups from C07C 27/00 to C07C 71/00, concerning compounds containing carbon and oxygen, with or without hydrogen or halogens, and currently reads as follows: C07C 69/00 Esters of carboxylic acids; Esters of carbonic or haloformic acids (ortho esters, see the relevant groups, e.g. C07C 43/32) Orthoesters (orthoformates) are ‘ethers’ of the hypothetical compound HC(OH)3. They are often formed to protect ester groups in organic synthesis, being easily hydrolysable to form esters. They comprise the group indicated by the second structural diagram in group C07C 43/00. Orthocarbonates are similar compounds, based on the hypothetical parent C(OH)4. Orthoesters are not ‘esters of carboxylic acids’: nor are they esters of carbonic acid ( which are of the formula O=C(OR)2), nor of haloformic acid (which would be of the formula O=C(OR)X, X being the halogen). Therefore the note is not limiting, but should be considered informative. It is probably in the scheme to avoid confusion among users as to the distinction between traditional esters and orthoesters (note the partition of the term in the reference into two words ‘ortho esters’, which lends itself to this interpretation). The groups relevant to the existing reference are: C07C 43/32 Orthoesters C07C 47/198 C07C 47/277 C07C 47/37 C07C 47/47 C07C 47/575 aldehydes containing orthoester moieties C07C 49/175 C07C 49/255 C07C 49/35 C07C 49/517 ketones containing orthoester moieties C07C 49/577 C07C 49/753 C07C 49/84 C07C 59/125 C07C 59/305 C07C 59/58 compounds having carboxyl groups bound to acyclic carbon atoms containing further orthocarbonate moieties C07C 62/08 C07C 62/34 compounds having carboxyl groups bound to non-aromatic cyclic carbon atoms containing further orthocarbonate moieties C07C 65/21 compounds having carboxyl groups bound to C6-aromatic carbon atoms containing further orthocarbonate moieties Since 19 potential groups are involved, if a reference in the scheme is desirable, the present reference is probably the least unwieldy way to do this. A note for group C07C 69/00 might suffice along the lines of: Orthoesters (esters of orthoformic acid) are not classified in this group, but are classified either in C07C 43/32 (orthocarbonates per se), or in the last relevant subgroups of C07C 47/00, C07C 49/00 or C07C 59/00, according to the last place rule, if the compound further contains –CHO, >CO or carboxyl moieties. However, since the reference is not limiting, replacing it with a note gives it far more weight than it merits. It is interesting to note that a comparable note has not been deemed necessary in group C07C 68/00 (preparation of esters of carbonic or haloformic acid), directing the user to group C07C 41/00 (preparation of, inter alia, orthoesters). The relationship is the same, and the wordings used in the group titles are analogous. Core level users are less served by the note than AL users, (the relevant subgroups of C07C 47/00, C07C 49/00 and C07C 59/00 are not presented to CL users), though if they are strictly adhering to the last place rule (as per note 3 after the class title), their distribution of documents should follow that of the AL. Accordingly, the best recommendation would be to suppress the reference (it is not limiting), and to add further information in the definition layer, perhaps by incorporating a definition of an orthoester, or otherwise distinguishing orthoesters from traditional ones. ______________________________ Fergal Brady Irish Patents Office