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NORTH CENTRAL
RAILWAY ENGINEERS ASSOCIATION
(Apex body representing Subordinate Engineers of N.C. Rly.)
(Affiliated with- All India Railway Engineers Federation)
HQ –Dutt Bhawn, New Ashok Nagar, Vasundhara Enclave, Delhi-110096
Ref: NCREA/GS/Memo/13/2
Dated: 13/02/13
To,
Shri Pawan Kumar Bansal Ji
Hon’ble Minister for Railways
Govt. of India
Rail Bhawan, New Delhi
Sub :
Memorandum on plight of Railway’s middle management ( safety) Engineers
Ref.-
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
AIREF memo. to Hon’ble MR / CRB dated 22.07.09 & 18.12.09 , 22 July 2010
Matter raised in Rajya Sabha on dated 07.08.09 & 17.12.09
Joint Memo. of 3 State Ministers & 8 MPs from Gujrat State to Ex. Hon’ble MR
Samman- Swabhiman Rally at Jantar Mantar New Delhi 17.10.11
All India Post card drive to Hon’ble MR this year in Jan’13
Our detail memorandum regarding grievances of Subordinate Engineers
submitted to Hon’ble Minister for Railways, Hon’ble MOSR,CRB/ Members
Railway Board time to time through Hon’ble Ministers / MPs , and issue
raised in parliament by Hon’ble MPs time to time for kind consideration.
Hon’ble Sir,
North Central Railway Engineers Association Jhansi Division
heartily congratulate you on behalf of thousands of middle management
Engineers (Junior Engineers & Sr.Section Engineers) / CMS/DMS/IT (EDP) staff,
for the strengthening of economy & the recent step taken by your self in this
regard.
Sir, North Central Railway Engineers Association is an affiliated association of
All India Railway Engineers Federation, which is sole representative organization
of about one lakh degree / diploma Engineers working over Indian Railways, and
those are struggling under the banner of AIREF for respected status since 1989
in the Railway.
Sir, we Railway Engineers of Railways desired for proper respect to their
multifunctional works / untiring efforts to maintain safety in the system as a
middle management. It is our great honour to represent our issues before you.
Previously, we could have been able to convinced to Board through our previous
Railway Ministers Hon’ble Shri K. C. Lenka Ji & Er. Nitish Kumar Ji for
‘Engineers’ designation & Hon’ble Didi Mamata Banerjee in the form of Ist class
pass to JE at entry level, we always be grateful to them. We expect that Hon’ble
sir, will be convinced with our genuine non-financial demand of group ‘B’ status &
recognition to our forum to give voice to the middle management, in respect of
implementation of recommendation of SCPC as well as to implement Justice
Khanna Committee.
Sir, We request for your kind attention towards the plight of Railway Engineers
and to spare few minutes from your busy schedule to go through the following
justifications & issues in favour of our demands.
1.
There are about 1 lakh middle management Engineers working in Indian
Railways, who are diploma & degree holders in Engineering of various branches.
2.
We, working as Junior Engineers and Senior Section Engineers / CMT / DMS/
IT(EDP) are the only technically qualified staff in Group ‘C’ cadre in Railways.
3.
We play the leading role to make Indian Railways one of the leading Railways in
world, for which we have been denoted as back-bone of Indian Railways.
4. We are directly involved with safety and economy of Indian Railways.
5.
It is no need to mention here that the technical works require more skill,
education, higher intellectual level, accuracy and deep thinking than others non
technical works.
6.
We do the work round-the-clock without any specific rest and also at remote
areas.
7.
It is very disappointing to mention here that in the 6 th CPC, we the sub-ordinate
Engineers have got raw deal. The disappointment still aggravates, when we see
that Railway have upgraded the non-technical/ supporting/ assisting staff like
nurses, school teachers, accounts staff etc, who are not directly involved in asset
building, development, operation and safety of Railways and our plight goes
unheard. It is worth calling here that our non-technical / supporting
category of staffs were placed below us till 4th Pay Commission, and now
they are placed above us without any extra duty & responsibility!
8.
In Indian Railways, in stead of comparing the Engineers with doctors, the
Engineers are now placed below nurses, those are providing their services to
look after the employee, while he is sick under the guidance / prescription of
Doctors. Where as Engineers are directly involve in Railway operation/ safety /
economy and maintaining the image of Railway in the society, but they are given
grade pay below nursing staff which is a great social injustice to graduate /
diploma Engineers, who are always dedicated to make Indian Railways as
leading railways in the world Railways.
9.
Though the nature of work handled by Railway Engineers can not be
compared with work of other category, it can at least be compared on the
basis of qualification. The required qualification for the post of a nurse in Indian
railways is Diploma in Nursing (Matriculation + 3 years), and that for Railway
Engineers is degree/diploma in engineering in their respective field like Civil
Engg., Mechanical Engg., Electrical Engg., Electronics Engg. / IT etc. Moreover,
Engineering is a very specialized professional education, which remains a dream
of most, available to top rung students only that too at national level
selection.
10. Further above & over the requisite technical degree / diploma, its only we the
Railway Engineers, who are to undergo railway specific training for 1 to 2
years to become Railway Engineers, and these 1-2 year have not been
considered for granting MACPS benefit till now.
11. The sub-ordinate Engineers are to undergo periodic training/ refresher
courses to run the Indian Railways at updated standards in line with world
development.
12. We are screened for higher/highest standard of medical suitability, which
demands to remain physically & psychologically fit from entry to end of our
career for proper discharge of duty - a phenomenon that has hardly been
taken into account despite enacting a rigorous work schedule (HOER) for
us.
13. Professional Hazards involved in our work is quite high, and a number of us are
quite promptly de-categorized, without ever being paid adequate weightage for
the same in pay structure.
14. The task, we handle can be comparable to managerial position as we have to
take decisions for speedy and efficient disposal of works at every level and we
owe direct responsibility for the work we do. It is a matter of great dissatisfaction
among the sub-ordinate Engineers that the demanding and challenging nature of
our work has not been recognized while fixing up of our pay structures and other
benefits.
15. A comparison (before re-designation) between nursing staff (the highest
upgraded cadre in Group ‘C’ ) and Engineers is enclosed herewith as Annexure-I
& with other non-technical category as Annexure-II for your kind reference.
16. If any mishap is happened anywhere, the concerned JEs/ SSEs are immediately
made direct responsible, which is not very likely in the case of non-technical staff
like nurses/Teachers/ Account personnel.
17. Considering the nature of duties and responsibilities, we should always be
placed above Nursing staff and any other staff in Group ‘C’ cadre. Apex group ‘C’
scale (Rs.840-1040) was only been awarded to our SSE level post upto 3 rd pay
commission.
18. Till 4th pay commission the pay scales of sub-ordinate Engineers were the
highest among all Group-C cadres.
19. In other Central Govt. and State Govt. the JEs are assured with time bound
promotions/ Time scale with status upto Executive Engineer level and all degree
Engineers are of gazetted status right from entry itself but this system is not
available in Indian Railways, it demoralize our hard worker Engineers & hence
talented Railway Engineers are leaving Railway services to join State Govt /
Private Concerned for better prospects. Not a single promotion available in
normal hierarchy to the graduate Engineers entering in Railway as SSE/GP-4600
A comparison of Railways with State Govt JE is given belowState/ Deptt.
Post
Entry GP
Scale of XEN
UP/ Uttaranchal
Junior Engineer
PB-2 / 4200 On 24 Yr Service
Bihar/ Jarkhand
Junior Engineer
PB-2 / 4200 On 24 Yr Service
Madhya Pradesh
Sub Engineer
PB-2 / 4200 On 28 Yr Service
Chattishgarh
Sub Engineer
PB-2 / 4200 On 25 Yr Service
Punjab Govt.
Junior Engineer PB-2 / 4800 On 20 Yr Service
Railways
Junior Engineer
PB-2 / 4200
Not Assured ?
PB/GP in SCPC
PB-3 / Rs.6600
PB-3 / Rs.6600
PB-3 / Rs.6600
PB-3 / Rs.6600
PB-3 / Rs.6600
Not Assured ?
20. DOPT had recommended to give Group-B status for Pay Band -2 i.e. from
Grade Pay Rs. 4200/- to Rs. 5400 vide its India Gazette notification no. 605,
dated. 09.04.2009. But Railway did not implemented the part of notification till
now i.e. classification of Gr B for PB-2 Supervisory staff but from the same
notification , it has been accepted to upgrade the classification of our artisan
group ‘D’ staff to group ‘C’ vide Railway Board’s RBE no – 5/2010 dtd.
08.01.2010. It is more panic that our counterpart central Govt deptt accepted the
recommendation of 6th CPC to enhance the status of the Subordinate Engineers
in Group ‘B and hence in all other Deptt of central Govt JE has been given Group
B status , but herein Railways, it has been damaged all the horizontal / vertical
relativity in supervisory / supporting (Artisan) staff. It come to know that Railway
Board has ignored the recommendation of DOPT for group B status to
Subordinate Engineers under the pressure of Labour Unions. Due to this
talented Engineers are exodus railways, to join other deptt to enjoy the social
status of group B since entry grade as JE.
21. Promotional prospects for subordinate Engineers are very limited to become
group B and group ‘A’, since group B post in Railway is very limited compared to
all other Central Govt Deptt. A Comparison of employees ratio as per Vth CPC
from group C to group A is given below in present term including SCPC
upgradations.
Organisation
Group “A”
Group “B”
Group “C”
Group “D”
Central Govt. Deptt
2.8 %
5.3%+ Gp91.8% - GPNil
(All India Average)
4200 staff
4200 staff
Railways
0.6%
0.5%
98.9%
Nil
th
After 6 CPC, PB-2 (GP-4200) has also been upgraded to group B in all other
central Govt deptt., where as in Railways, all group ‘D’ post has been upgraded
to group C, hence ratio of employee in group ‘B’ enhanced compared to existing
in Central Govt., but in Railway it is still 0.5%. Hon’ble Sir, may kindly consider to
rectify the situation in Railway to attract talented engineers to join railway .
22. There are two recognized labour Federations under Indian Railways, who
represent all staff from Group-C & D (Now group C) including subordinate
Engineers . But they use Railway Engineers as their financial managers and not
represent properly at highest level, due to which we have been neglected
continuously by Railway Board. After introducing of election process, labour
unions started misbehave humiliation and threatening to get favor of majority of
labour governed by us. Many cases reported for mishandling , abusing , insulting
of Engineers by activist of labour unions
23. We, Engineers are in minority and both the labour Union/ Federations are
ignoring our grievances and stand with majority of labour working under our
Engineers. We middle management Engineers desired for separate
recognition. Since grievances of Supervised & Supervisor can not be dealt
in same union, that’s why, Justice Khanna committee had recommended to
debarring Railway Engineers from joining labour unions & to give
reorganization to sub-ordinate Engineers of Indian Railways separately to
represent their problems at proper level but this was not accepted by Railways.
In all other central governments & all state governments, the associations of
Subordinate Engineers are recognized by their concerned departments.
Considering the above points and justification, AIREF desired for kind favour of
Hon’ble MR to consider our justified demands reiterated as follows1.
a.
b.
c.
2.
a.
b.
c.
3.
4.
5.
a.
b.
c.
d.
e.
f.
6.
7.
OUR MAIN DEMANDS:
Recognition of All India Railway Engineers Federation (AIREF) and its affiliated Zonal
Railway Engineers Associations like Engineers Associations/ Federations of all other
Central & all State Governments.
Provide opportunity to contest election for recognition and to support any origination after
election in achieving required no of votes percentage
Implement right to reject in forth coming election of recognition of labour unions
Implement Khanna Committee, to debar Railway Engineers from joining labour Unions
Grant of minimum Grade Pay
Rs. 4800/- to Junior Engineers at par with Nursing Sisters or as given by Punjab Govt to
their JE( Diploma Holder) at entry grade
Rs 5400/- (PB-3) to Sr. Section Engineers /CMS/DMS/IT(EDP) ( Graduate Engineers) at
par with Matrons/Chief Matrons though it should be more with std designation as Asstt.
Engineer.
Provide direct entry through UPSE in GP-6600(PB-3) and similarity in grade pay of
assistant. Officer with direct recruit for the same post and same duty
Group-B cadre to all sub-ordinate Engineers in PB-2 as per DOPT gazette Notification no.
605 of 09.04.09 with gazetted status, as already implemented in CPWD/ Defence and
other central Govt deptt.
Time bound promotions from JE to Junior Administrative grade officer at 8th, 16th & 24th
years.
Remove anomaly of Modified Assured career progression (MACPS)
Counting of apprentice period under MACPS
Benefit of MACPS be ensure to JE/SSE of Drg / Design considering current structure of
cadre i.e entry at JE(GP-4200) , abolish and merged grade in earlier pay commission
should not be counted under MACPS, which is not in cadre hierarchy (Tracer / Jr
Draftsman) now.
Provide stepping up to the senior against the junior, who acquired grade pay more than
his senior in MACPS.
Provide upgraded classification as per grade pay and ensure status accordingly.
Provide MACPS at 8/16/24 year of service as given in the Defense ministry
Provide MACPS on cadre hierarchy on functional post / grade only, remove and merged
grade pay 4600 with GP- 4800, which is most closer by Rs 200/-.
Incentive to all technical cadres that is Design / Store / IT / CMT / Civil / Electrical /
Mechanical maintenance working in workshop/ shed/ open line organisation
Superintending / PCO Allowance should be increased 30% in workshops / production
Units and Arduous Duty Allowance @ 30% to all J.Es, SSEs in open line and
Construction.
8.
9.
10.
a.
b.
11.
a.
b.
c.
d.
e.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.
22.
At par Cadre restructuring to all subordinate Engineers or technical cadres in the ratio of
10:90 for JE/AE(SSE) including Drg. design / CMS/ DMS /IT cadres etc.
Provide fixation of pay to promotee at par with direct recruits in promotional post
Abolition of 70% LGS exam to give smooth channel of promotion on the basis of seniority
cum bench marking to senior most SSE & to direct recruit graduate Engineers as SSE.
Stop immediately implementation of integrated seniority as per Rly Bd. Letter no. RBE
53/2011 for the purpose of promotion/selection to Group-B posts
Open a promotional channel to qualified loco pilot to became JE / SSE through LDCE /
GDCE
Grievances related with passes.
Include Father and mother in the definition of Family as per Indian culture to ensure them
also the pass and medical facility.
Provide entitlement in tatkal ticket through privilege / on duty passes/ PTOs
Provide e-ticket facility to Railway employee on pass/ PTOs / e-pass( May me planned).
Remove restriction of no of tickets in Rajdhani/ Shatabdi / Duranto express trains on
passes / PTOs
Provide 6 set of passes on GP-4800 and 3 set passes on retirement
Redefine apprentice as probation period or induction training to ensure all benefit on the
period spent and ensure that such training for induction not to be more than one year for
degree / Diploma in any cadre.
Conduct LDCE ( 30% ) through UPSE for Assistant officer in GP-6600/- and provide at
par channel to these talented Engineers like wise UPSE qualified Engineers
Scrap new pension scheme and ensure financial security in old age through old pension
scheme.
Increase no tax limit to Rs 5 Lakhs and exemption of all allowances from Income tax.
No corporatization in Indian Railway and its Production Units
Provide reimbursement of tuition fee of children studying in higher education ( Engg. /
Medical / MBA etc)
Provide improved rest house facilities at all major railway station for Railway Engineers on
the model of Sr Subordinate rest house at Bilaspur / SECR or provide hotel facility as
given to all Central Govt. employees
Ensure CUG facilities to all Railway Engineers and increase the CUG utility amount to
minimum Rs 500/- for JE and Rs 1000/- for SSE
Provide brief case ( amount ) to all JE/SSE irrespective of any condition
Provide one notional increment ,who is retiring in between Jan to June, every year
Set up technical library in all divisional / HQ office including workshops, loco sheds under
functional management of Engineers Associations of the unit.
Hon’ble Sir, on behalf of all Railway Engineers, we request to kindly, consider our
demands for providing social justice and at par status with other non-technical staff &
Engineers of other Central & State Governments.
We shall always be grateful to you.
Yours faithfully,
General Secretary
NCREA @ JHS
Copy- Hon’ble Chairman, Railway Board, Rail Bhawan, New Delhi
Er. Alok Johri , Hon’ble General Manager, N.C.Railway, HQ, Allahabad
Er. Naveen Chopra, Divisional Railway Manager, N.C.Railway Jhansi
Annexure-I
Comparison of Pay Scales
Nurse ( the highest upgraded cadre in Group ‘C’ ) v/s Subordinate Engineers
(Note: Comparison is made in equivalent of pay scales of 5th Pay Commission)
Table –I (Staff Nurse vs. Jr. Engineer-II)
Pay Commission
th
4 PC
5th PC
6th PC
Staff Nurse
Jr. Engineer-II
Remarks
425-700/5000-8000/7450-11500/-(GP-4600/-)
425-700/5000-8000/6500-10500/-(GP-4200/-)
Both were equal
Both were equal
Nurse, upgraded by one grade
pay & made equal with
Sr Section Engineer
Table – II (Nursing Sister vs. Jr. Engineer-I)
Pay Commission
Nursing Sister
4th PC
1600-2660/5th PC
5500-9000/6th PC
7500-12000/-(GP-4800/-)
Table – III (Matron vs. Section Engineer)
Pay Commission
Matron
4th PC
5500-9000/5th PC
6th PC
Jr. Engineer-I
1600-2660/5500-9000/6500-10500/-(GP-4200/-)
Section Engineer
6500-10500/-
6500-10500/8000-13500/-(GP-5400/-) &
PB-3
6500-10500/7450-11500/-(GP-4600/-) &
PB-2
Remarks
Both were equal
Both were equal
Nurse, upgraded by two grades
& placed above
Sr Section Engineer
Remarks
Engineer was higher by one
grade
Nurse, upgraded & both were
equal
Nurse, upgraded by
three grades !
Engineer, made equal with
Staff Nurse !
Table – IV (Chief Matron vs. Sr. Section Engineer)
Pay Commission
Chief Matron
Sr. Section Engineer
Remarks
4th PC
Not available
2375-3500/-
Apex group C grade available
for Subordinate Engineers
only up to 3rd CPC
5th PC
6th PC


7450-11500/(Newly Created)
8000-13500/-(GP-5400/-) &
PB-3
7450-11500/7450-11500/-(GP-4600/-) &
PB-2
Both were equal
Nurse, upgraded by
three grades !
Engineer, made equal with
Staff Nurse !
Sr. Section Engineer was never upgraded in any pay commission, who plays the
main role for safety, operation & economy of Indian Railways, among any cadre.
Now, a graduate Engineer & a diploma holder of nursing in same GP (Grade Pay)
i.e. Rs. 4600/- ! in Railways.
Promotional prospectus from direct recruitment grade in Group-C cadre
Sl
1
2
2
3
Post
Nurses
(diploma in nursing)
Teachers
(Graduate with B.Ed)
Junior Engineer
(Diploma in Engg)
Sr. Section Engineer
(Degree in Engg)
PB 2
GP
4200
PB 2
GP 4600
PB 2
GP 4800
PB 2
GP 5400
PB 3
GP 5400
-
1st
2nd
-
3rd
-
1st
2nd
-
3rd
1st
2nd
-
-
-
-
1st & last
-
-
-
Annexure-II
Comparative Statement of Supervising Engineers & other Non-safety Categories
POST
1
Chief
Matron
NONSAFETY
Diploma in
Nursing,
promoted from
Staff Nurse
Not
available
Not
available
7450
11500
5400 in
PB-3
2
Senior SO
(Accounts)
NONSAFETY
Promoted from
Jr. Accounts
Asst.
Not
available
Not
available
7450
11500
4800 in
PB-2
Senior
Section
Engineer
SAFETY
# Degree in
Engg at present
& also
promotion from
JE (Diploma in
Engg)
840
1040
2375
3500
7450
11500
4600 in
PB-2
WHY ?
1
Matron
NON –
SAFETY
Diploma in
Nursing,
promoted from
Staff Nurse
700
–
900
2000
3200
6500
10500
5400 in
PB-3
2
Section
Officer
(Accounts)
NON –
SAFETY
Promoted from
Jr. Accounts
Asst.
700
–
900
2000
3200
6500
10500
4800 in
PB-2
Section
Engineer
SAFETY
Degree in Engg
(20%) & also
promotion
(80%) from JE
(Diploma in
Engg)
700
–
900
2000
3200
6500
10500
4600 in
PB-2
WHY ?
1
Staff Nurse
NON –
SAFETY
Diploma in
Nursing
<425700
4600 in
PB-2
2
Teacher
NON –
SAFETY
+12th Std. with
D.Ed
<425700
12002040
3
Junior
Engineer
(JE)
SAFETY
Diploma in Engg
425-700
1400
2300
5000
8000
5000
–
8000
5000
8000
3
3
CATEGORY QUALIFICATION
AS PER PAY COMMISSION
III
IV
V
VI
Sl
4600 in
PB-2
4200 in
PB-2
WHY ?
(# - Before 6th Pay Commission, there was no direct recruitment as Sr. Section Engineer & only
promotion from Section Engineer. After 6th PC, Section Engineers & Sr. Section have been merged
& Graduate Engineers are directly recruited as Sr Section Engineer against 20% vacancies) but
they have no further channel of promotion in normal hierarchy .
Continuous Downfall in Pay Scales:
S No
Designation
3rd CPC
5th CPC
6th CPC
1
Excise Inspector
425-700
6500-10500
PB-2, GP-4600
2
Train Controller
425-700
6500-10500
PB-2, GP-4600
3
Traffic Supervisor
425-700
6500-10500
PB-2, GP-4600
4
Police Inspector
425-700
6500-10500
PB-2, GP-4600
5
Junior Engineer
425-700
5000-8000
PB-2, GP-4200
Annexure-III
A comparison between Senior Section Engineer & others:
Diploma in
nursing
Senior
Section
Officer
(Accountant)
B.A / B. Sc/
B.Com
Primary
teacher
(Selection
Grade)
+12th STD
with D.Ed
Trained
Graduate
Teacher (Sr.
Grade)
Graduate
with B.Ed
Nature of
work
Conventional
Conventional
Conventional
Conventional
Challenging
Activity
Non-core
Non-core
Non-core
Non-core
Core
NIL
NIL
NIL
NIL
Active role
NIL
NIL
NIL
NIL
100% Responsible
Welfare
Supporting
Welfare
Welfare
Executive
HOER
classification
Intermittent
(with specific
periodical
rest)
Intermittent
(with specific
periodical
rest)
Intermittent
(with specific
periodical
rest)
Intermittent
(with specific
periodical
rest)
Excluded (without
specific periodical
rest)
Old pay
scale
6500-10500
6500-10500
6500-10500
6500-10500
6500-10500
New pay
scale
15600-39100
9300-34800
9300-34800
9300-34800
9300-34800
Pay Band
(PB) / Grade
Pay (GP)
PB-3 / 5400
PB-2 / 4800
PB-2 / 4800
PB-2 / 4800
PB-2/ 4600
Why ?
Posts
Criteria
Matron
(Nurse)
Minimum
Qualification
Role in Train
Movement
Safety
aspect
Category of
Staff
Senior Section
Engineer
B.E. / B.Tech.
Upgradation of non safety & non tech. staff:
S No
Designation
5th CPC
5th CPC review
6th CPC
1
Primary Teacher
5000-8000
5500-9000
PB-2, GP-4600
2
Staff Nurse
5000-8000
-
PB-2, GP-4600
2A
Jr. Engineer, Gr-II
5000-8000
Not done
PB-2, GP-4200
3
Jr. Engineer, Gr-I
5500-9000
Not done
PB-2, GP-4200
3A
Nursing Sister
5500-9000
-
PB-2, GP-4800
4
SO/Accounts
5500-9000
6500-10500
PB-2, GP-4800
5
Supdt. Legal
7450 -11500
7500-12000
PB-2, GP-4800
6
Matron
6500-10500
-
PB-3, GP-5400
7
Section Engineer
6500-10500
Not Done
PB-2, GP-4600
7450-11500
Not Done
PB-2, GP-4600
8
Senior Section
Engineer
The above comparison is to explain down grading of Railway Engineers.