Template for comments and observations (insert additional rows as maybe needed to separate comments) Due Date for comments: Document: February 6 2015 Send to: mcostello@nsf.org Floatation Chamber Draft 1-15-2015 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 com ment er1 Clause No./ Subclause No./ Annex (e.g. 3.1) Paragraph/ Figure/Table/No te (e.g. Table 1) Type of comment2 Comment or observation (justification for change) by the commenter Proposed change by the commenter Chair’s observations or proposed response on each comment submitted gp gp X.11 gp new section gp definition gp definition Data plate Air Treatment System: copy text from draft and show changes in track change. ge I think a lot of good work has been done here. I think there are still a few areas that need some attention. te Warning that no user shall use the facility when the Floating in a tank at too warm of a temperature can be lethal. From Wikipedia - humans may experience lethal temperature is above 34.5°C or 94.2°F. hyperthermia when the web-bulb temperature is sustained above 35°C (95°F) for six hours. I propose an upper safety limit of 34.6°C or 94.3°F. This should be on the Data plate. te The temperature control system must be accurate in order that the above is meaningful. Temperature Regulation Quarterly the temperature controller will be calibrated with a NIST traceable calibrated thermometer. It will be corrected, if it can be calibrated, otherwise the amount it is off will be clearly indicated on the unit. te I don’t think these devices are expected to go into environments requiring disinfection, recirculation and filtration. And if so, isn’t that a function that should be handled by the facility not the tank? Air Treatment System: All materials and equipment related to air quality. ge see comments on section 2.59 Public Sensory Ancillary Facility: Any area or appurtenance used in conjunction with or for the operation of a public floatation system including but not limited to public dressing rooms, Deprivation or Floatation System: 1 commenter = CB (enter two initials, e.g. CB for Colin Bishop) 2 Type of comment: ge = general te = technical ed = editorial NOTE Columns 1, 2, 4, 5 are compulsory. page 1 of 12 ISO electronic balloting commenting template/version 2001-10 Template for comments and observations (insert additional rows as maybe needed to separate comments) Due Date for comments: Document: February 6 2015 Send to: mcostello@nsf.org Floatation Chamber Draft 1-15-2015 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 com ment er1 Clause No./ Subclause No./ Annex (e.g. 3.1) Paragraph/ Figure/Table/No te (e.g. Table 1) Type of comment2 Comment or observation (justification for change) by the commenter Proposed change by the commenter Chair’s observations or proposed response on each comment submitted copy text from draft and show changes in track change. lockers, shower or bathroom areas, drinking fountains, or any room that is intended to be used by floatation system users. 1 commenter = CB (enter two initials, e.g. CB for Colin Bishop) 2 Type of comment: ge = general te = technical ed = editorial NOTE Columns 1, 2, 4, 5 are compulsory. page 2 of 12 ISO electronic balloting commenting template/version 2001-10 Template for comments and observations (insert additional rows as maybe needed to separate comments) Due Date for comments: Document: February 6 2015 Send to: mcostello@nsf.org Floatation Chamber Draft 1-15-2015 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 com ment er1 Clause No./ Subclause No./ Annex (e.g. 3.1) Paragraph/ Figure/Table/No te (e.g. Table 1) Type of comment2 Comment or observation (justification for change) by the commenter Proposed change by the commenter Chair’s observations or proposed response on each comment submitted Public Sensory Deprivation or Floatation System: te gp 2.59 copy text from draft and show changes in track change. The term sensory deprivation should be removed everywhere in this scientific document. For a more thorough discussion of this issue see http://samadhitank.com/sensorydep.html The only way to deprive a person of their senses are to cut off their head, etc. We do not have dead people using these tanks. So the term is not appropriate in a scientific document. Public Floatation System: A combination of water holding vessel and treatment system for the immersion and floatation of person in temperature-controlled water circulated in a closed system, and not intended to be drained to waste and filled with each use. It is manufactured to factory specifications with specific design, plumbing, components, and suppliers such that the water is circulated, treated, and filtered via closed loop system. The floatation system may be permanently installed or portable and typically includes certain systems or components integral to the system or as part of a separate manufacturer specified assembly or skid-pack: tub, box, or shell structure, liner, and support system, hand hold(s), pull(s) or rail(s), filter(s), pump(s), suction fitting(s) or drain(s), water return fittings, skimmers, piping, tubing, hose, and other air or water distribution fitting(s), heater(s), supplemental treatment system(s), and control system. These aquatic vessels are of a design and size such that it has an unobstructed volume of water large enough to support floatation in place. 1 commenter = CB (enter two initials, e.g. CB for Colin Bishop) 2 Type of comment: ge = general te = technical ed = editorial NOTE Columns 1, 2, 4, 5 are compulsory. page 3 of 12 ISO electronic balloting commenting template/version 2001-10 Template for comments and observations (insert additional rows as maybe needed to separate comments) Due Date for comments: Document: February 6 2015 Send to: mcostello@nsf.org Floatation Chamber Draft 1-15-2015 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 com ment er1 Clause No./ Subclause No./ Annex (e.g. 3.1) Paragraph/ Figure/Table/No te (e.g. Table 1) Type of comment2 Comment or observation (justification for change) by the commenter Proposed change by the commenter Chair’s observations or proposed response on each comment submitted copy text from draft and show changes in track change. gp 2.59 Operating water level: te First and foremost the depth should permit floating. Operating water level: Level at which water must be maintained to enable proper floating, water circulation and skimming. gp XX te Floatation or Sensory Deprivation Systems and Related Equipment Remove the scientifically misleading term, sensory deprivation. Floatation Systems and Related Equipment gp X.1 Scope Remove sensory deprivation. Although it has some public usage, so do some words for intercourse and manure. That does not mean they should be used in a document like this. This section establishes evaluation design, and testing criteria including health and performance requirements for horizontal floatation, and related equipment. The criteria address factory manufactured, fully self-contained and nonself-contained, portable, and pre-fabricated floatation systems including requirements for the materials, design and construction, marking, installation and use instructions, performance of the liner or shell and structure, performance of the water treatment system (or components), including those involved in the circulation, and treatment (e.g., filtration and sanitation) of the water. ed This standard does not purport to address all safety concerns, if any, associated with the use of horizontal 1 commenter = CB (enter two initials, e.g. CB for Colin Bishop) 2 Type of comment: ge = general te = technical ed = editorial NOTE Columns 1, 2, 4, 5 are compulsory. page 4 of 12 ISO electronic balloting commenting template/version 2001-10 Template for comments and observations (insert additional rows as maybe needed to separate comments) Due Date for comments: Document: February 6 2015 Send to: mcostello@nsf.org Floatation Chamber Draft 1-15-2015 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 com ment er1 Clause No./ Subclause No./ Annex (e.g. 3.1) Paragraph/ Figure/Table/No te (e.g. Table 1) Type of comment2 Comment or observation (justification for change) by the commenter Proposed change by the commenter Chair’s observations or proposed response on each comment submitted copy text from draft and show changes in track change. floatation systems. It is the responsibility of the user of this Standard to establish appropriate safety and health practices and determine the applicability of regulatory limitations prior to use. te Substitute floatation for sensory deprivation or remove sensory deprivation. Accessibility A) ed This height requirement is unnecessarily restrictive, prejudicial and has no safety merit - just remove section A. X.5.1 Accessibility B) ed This needs reworking or removal. I think it is inappropriate to require eg., all heaters to be accessible. gp X.5.2.1 Shell, tub, or liner: material formulation, surface material, strength ed I doubt that the specifications required for materials that are subjected to direct sun and energetic children are necessary for products which will always be inside. And half of those materials will spend most their life in total darkness. I think all material requirements need to be revisited. For example, we have used 20 mil vinyl liners for over 40 years without seeing a need to make them thicker. gp X.5.2.1 Section 5.3 ed Smoking will not be allowed in any float facility, much gp all clauses gp X.5.1 gp 1 commenter = CB (enter two initials, e.g. CB for Colin Bishop) 2 Type of comment: ge = general te = technical ed = editorial NOTE Columns 1, 2, 4, 5 are compulsory. page 5 of 12 ISO electronic balloting commenting template/version 2001-10 Template for comments and observations (insert additional rows as maybe needed to separate comments) Due Date for comments: Document: February 6 2015 Send to: mcostello@nsf.org Floatation Chamber Draft 1-15-2015 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 com ment er1 Clause No./ Subclause No./ Annex (e.g. 3.1) Paragraph/ Figure/Table/No te (e.g. Table 1) Type of comment2 Comment or observation (justification for change) by the commenter Proposed change by the commenter Chair’s observations or proposed response on each comment submitted copy text from draft and show changes in track change. less a float room so it’s unnecessary to be concerned with its effects. gp X.5.2.3 te Color may not always be the best choice for clearest communication. gp X.7.2.1 ed Colin said it “A hydrostatic pressure of 1.5 times 50 psi exceeds all practical requirements. It is very unlikely a pump system for a zero head recirculation system will reach one bar, (15 psi) this is over-specified by a large factor.” This line should be removed. gp X.7.2.2.5 paragraph 3 te There is NO need to have any amount of air exchange if the enclosed system meets the requirements in X.7.2.2.5 and Table X. And there IS a need to minimize as much as possible ALL distractions. The second sentence needs to be removed. gp X.7.2.2.5 paragraph 4 ed As someone who was poisoned about 12 years ago with organo phosphates (what most pesticides were made out of then - nerve toxins used disrupted the nervous system of the bugs), I am still very environmentally sensitive. Floating in halogens scares me, both personally and company liability wise. I see Floatation system shall be marked clearly with minimum and maximum operational level marking on the inside of the unit to display the allowable solution level range. All systems, regardless of disinfection method, shall be tested for Carbon Dioxide and Oxygen levels to meet the criteria in Table X below. 1 commenter = CB (enter two initials, e.g. CB for Colin Bishop) 2 Type of comment: ge = general te = technical ed = editorial NOTE Columns 1, 2, 4, 5 are compulsory. page 6 of 12 ISO electronic balloting commenting template/version 2001-10 Template for comments and observations (insert additional rows as maybe needed to separate comments) Due Date for comments: Document: February 6 2015 Send to: mcostello@nsf.org Floatation Chamber Draft 1-15-2015 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 com ment er1 Clause No./ Subclause No./ Annex (e.g. 3.1) Paragraph/ Figure/Table/No te (e.g. Table 1) Type of comment2 Comment or observation (justification for change) by the commenter Proposed change by the commenter Chair’s observations or proposed response on each comment submitted copy text from draft and show changes in track change. no reason to float in halogens when ozone and Hydrogen Peroxide are effective safe alternatives when handled properly. This paragraph needs to be removed. gp X.7.3 te In X.7.2.1 the turnover time has appropriately been crossed out. It should also be crossed out here. What is important is spelled out other places - the 3-log reduction and the 70% turbidity reduction. The second sentence is not needed. The water circulation pumps shall be certified to the spa temperature requirements of NSF/ANSI Standard 50 for performance including, hydrostatic pressure, pump curve, strainer performance (if applicable). gp X.7.6 ed Hydrogen Peroxide is not in the NSF/ANSI 50 but is a safe and effective sanitizer and should be allowed as it is in the list in X.7.6.7. Water sanitation in the sensory deprivation system shall be accomplished disinfection systems sized to meet regulatory requirements. The sensory deprivation system manufacturer shall specify or require at least two disinfection systems to be installed. The sensory deprivation system manufacturer shall recommend or supply NSF/ANSI 50 certified disinfection systems or Hydrogen Peroxide that when combined are capable of producing a minimum 3-log kill [99.9%] during the between user cleaning cycle. Water sanitation equipment integral to the sensory deprivation system shall meet the requirements, but a separate data plate and operational instructions are not required if the information is contained within the sensory deprivation unit. gp X.7.6.7 te When the tank’s inventor, Dr John Lilly, gave me One or more treatment systems or sanitizers shall be Treatment 1 commenter = CB (enter two initials, e.g. CB for Colin Bishop) 2 Type of comment: ge = general te = technical ed = editorial NOTE Columns 1, 2, 4, 5 are compulsory. page 7 of 12 ISO electronic balloting commenting template/version 2001-10 Template for comments and observations (insert additional rows as maybe needed to separate comments) Due Date for comments: Document: February 6 2015 Send to: mcostello@nsf.org Floatation Chamber Draft 1-15-2015 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 com ment er1 Clause No./ Subclause No./ Annex (e.g. 3.1) Paragraph/ Figure/Table/No te (e.g. Table 1) Type of comment2 Comment or observation (justification for change) by the commenter Proposed change by the commenter Chair’s observations or proposed response on each comment submitted systems copy text from draft and show changes in track change. specified by the manufacturer for installation or supplied by specifications for how to design a tank, he specifically the manufacturer with the floatation system. Halogens are told me NOT to use anything copper in the tank because it was toxic in the epsom salt solution. I do not not acceptable. Examples include but are not limited to: ● Ozone treatment systems know whether this is true or not but I think copper/silver ● UV treatment systems ion systems should be removed until they are ● Hydrogen peroxide determined safe. That is why we have never used pressure gauges on the filter tops. The halogens should not be permitted. They pose a safety risk. EPA registered sanitizers opens the door to using them so remove that. gp X.7.6.7 bottom note ed I have no idea what the repercussions of this are. gp X.8 paragraph 1 sentence 2 te Requiring that there be 2 redundant effective sanitation systems is excessive and produces no risk reduction. It is not analogous to wearing condoms where two are safer than one. gp X.8 Paragraph 2 te Hydrogen Peroxide needs to be added to the list of methods to test and Copper/Silver ion system removed. Floatation systems shall use one of the following water treatment methods (such as ozone, hydrogen peroxide, or UV) to be tested for disinfection efficacy individually without another supplemental disinfection system to assess the level of performance of the disinfection system. o o o o No chlorine/bromine chemical dosing Ozone at manufacturer recommended level/output UV generator operating at manufacturer recommended level or irradiance Hydrogen Peroxide 1 commenter = CB (enter two initials, e.g. CB for Colin Bishop) 2 Type of comment: ge = general te = technical ed = editorial NOTE Columns 1, 2, 4, 5 are compulsory. page 8 of 12 ISO electronic balloting commenting template/version 2001-10 Template for comments and observations (insert additional rows as maybe needed to separate comments) Due Date for comments: Document: February 6 2015 Send to: mcostello@nsf.org Floatation Chamber Draft 1-15-2015 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 com ment er1 Clause No./ Subclause No./ Annex (e.g. 3.1) Paragraph/ Figure/Table/No te (e.g. Table 1) Type of comment2 Comment or observation (justification for change) by the commenter Proposed change by the commenter Chair’s observations or proposed response on each comment submitted copy text from draft and show changes in track change. gp X.9 te Hydrogen Peroxide needs to be added to the list of methods and Copper/Silver ion system removed. gp X.10 te Hydrogen Peroxide needs to be added to the list of methods and Copper/Silver ion system removed. gp X,11 te No need for Maximum number of users (bathers) Not every system is unsafe to be in the tank during the cleaning cycle. After successful initial disinfection efficacy testing, the entire treatment system shall undergo a simulated 3,000 hour life test to address stresses on the equipment and treatment system over time and from repeated on off cycling of the pump, filtration, UV, Ozone, and or Hydrogen Peroxide systems after each user. These requirements shall apply to any equipment recommended or supplied by the sensory deprivation system manufacturer for use in treatment of sensory deprivation chamber water, including: ● Ozone systems, ● UV light systems, ● Hydrogen Peroxide Each sensory deprivation system shall have a data plate that is permanent and easy to read. The data plate shall have, at a minimum, the following information: ● Manufacturer’s name and address; ● Model and serial number; ● Date of manufacture or installation ● Maximum recommended temperature; ● Recommended between user cleaning cycle process and cycle time ● Warning that no user shall be in system during the cleaning cycle when appropriate ● Recommended water quality parameters, including pH, sanitizer level (such as 2.0 ppm 1 commenter = CB (enter two initials, e.g. CB for Colin Bishop) 2 Type of comment: ge = general te = technical ed = editorial NOTE Columns 1, 2, 4, 5 are compulsory. page 9 of 12 ISO electronic balloting commenting template/version 2001-10 Template for comments and observations (insert additional rows as maybe needed to separate comments) Due Date for comments: Document: February 6 2015 Send to: mcostello@nsf.org Floatation Chamber Draft 1-15-2015 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 com ment er1 Clause No./ Subclause No./ Annex (e.g. 3.1) Paragraph/ Figure/Table/No te (e.g. Table 1) Type of comment2 Comment or observation (justification for change) by the commenter Proposed change by the commenter Chair’s observations or proposed response on each comment submitted copy text from draft and show changes in track change. dissolved ozone) Dry weight, water capacity, and filled/occupied weight; ● Certifiers mark attesting to compliance with requirements of this standard; A comprehensive manual or manual package shall be provided with each sensory deprivation system covering important areas and contains an explanation of the system operational process or a link to the on line manual listed on the Date plate. ● gp X.12 ed Many companies are providing online manuals now to save paper and to always keep it up to date so instead of a paper manual, a link to the manual could be added to the Data plate. gp X.12.1 te There is NO drowning hazard in a float system so it should be removed gp X.12.1 ed I can not think of any situation where a barrier would add safety to a float center situation. I think the barrier paragraph should be removed. gp X.12.2 te Instead of maximum number of users, it should say One person will use the facility at a time. One person will use the facility at a time. 1 commenter = CB (enter two initials, e.g. CB for Colin Bishop) 2 Type of comment: ge = general te = technical ed = editorial NOTE Columns 1, 2, 4, 5 are compulsory. page 10 of 12 ISO electronic balloting commenting template/version 2001-10 Template for comments and observations (insert additional rows as maybe needed to separate comments) Due Date for comments: Document: February 6 2015 Send to: mcostello@nsf.org Floatation Chamber Draft 1-15-2015 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 com ment er1 Clause No./ Subclause No./ Annex (e.g. 3.1) Paragraph/ Figure/Table/No te (e.g. Table 1) Type of comment2 Comment or observation (justification for change) by the commenter Proposed change by the commenter Chair’s observations or proposed response on each comment submitted copy text from draft and show changes in track change. 1 commenter = CB (enter two initials, e.g. CB for Colin Bishop) 2 Type of comment: ge = general te = technical ed = editorial NOTE Columns 1, 2, 4, 5 are compulsory. page 11 of 12 ISO electronic balloting commenting template/version 2001-10 Template for comments and observations (insert additional rows as maybe needed to separate comments) Due Date for comments: Document: February 6 2015 Send to: mcostello@nsf.org Floatation Chamber Draft 1-15-2015 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 com ment er1 Clause No./ Subclause No./ Annex (e.g. 3.1) Paragraph/ Figure/Table/No te (e.g. Table 1) Type of comment2 Comment or observation (justification for change) by the commenter Proposed change by the commenter Chair’s observations or proposed response on each comment submitted copy text from draft and show changes in track change. 1 commenter = CB (enter two initials, e.g. CB for Colin Bishop) 2 Type of comment: ge = general te = technical ed = editorial NOTE Columns 1, 2, 4, 5 are compulsory. page 12 of 12 ISO electronic balloting commenting template/version 2001-10