Book 2 Chapter 8

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Winston: In this chapter Winston is doubtful, yet intrigued to go to
O'Brien's house, but once he is there he settles him self down and is
relieved once he hears O’Brien tell him he is part of the Brotherhood.
Winston is only at O’Brien’s out of sheer intuition because of a
dream, and when he and O’Brien made eye contact. Also Winston
expresses his full hatred for the party while O’Brien is questioning
Julia and himself.
Julia: In this chapter Julia is nervous as well as Winston, but is only
their for the support of Winston. Although Winston is more afraid
than Julia is to be going to O’Brien’s he has more of a purpose to go
to rather than Julia who does not believe in the Brotherhood. She
also agrees to every question that O’Brien asks her except when
asked to split from Winston.
Martin: Martin is a servant of O’Brien who is claimed to also be a
member of the Brotherhood. He is quiet and stealthy with his
movements, he doesn’t talk and lays a bland look on Winston and
Julia when told to take another look at them before he leaves. If
Winston was to be relayed any information it would be through
him.
O’Brien: In this chapter O’Brien is Winston's lead who is in
Winston's mind a member of the Brotherhood. He is found
completing work for the ministries when Winston and Julia first
arrive showing us that he is a busy man even when he is home. He
is an Inner Party member who lives in a luxurious neighborhood.
Also he is seen as a stout man with strong features, and a heavy
face.
•Demur- to make objection, especially on the grounds of scruples; take
exception; object
- “O'Brien's servant, however, had admitted the two of them without
demur.”
•Indecipherable- not understandable; incomprehensible, illegible
- “His solid form towered over the pair of them, and the expression
on his face was still indecipherable.”
•Decanter- a vessel, usually an ornamental glass bottle, for holding and
serving wine, or brandy.
- “Winston saw that he was carrying a tray with a decanter and
glasses.”
•Equivocal- Of doubtful nature or character; questionable; dubious;
suspicious
- “Nothing but a flash of the eyes and a single equivocal remark;
beyond that, only his own secret imaginings, founded a dream.”
Doubleplus: A prefix used to create the superlative form of an adjective or
adverb.
Crimethink: to even consider any thought that does not coincide with the
principles of INGSOC.
Ante-Getting: to stop making, or producing of something.
Plusful: to receive an excessive amount or to produce to much of one thing.
-“Items one comma five comma seven approved fullwise stop
suggestion contained item six double plus ridiculous verging crimethink
cancel stop unproceed constructionwise ante-getting plusful estimates
machinery overheads stop end message.”
- When O’Brien is reading out a message in the hybrid jargon of the
Ministries.
•“Seen from the top the stuff looked almost black, but in the decanter it
gleamed like a ruby.”
- In this simile, Orwell is describing the wine the O'Brien's servant has
brought to them. It signifies the privileges that the Inner Party
members have that is difficult to access for someone like Winston
and Julia. It also shows how classy the lifestyle is of the Inner
Party, and that they can obtain much more than that of the Outer
Party or Proles.
•Tone
- The tone of this chapter is a nervous, suspenseful tone because of
Winston going to O’Brien’s home on a simple dream that he had, also
once he is inside he blurts out why he and Julia are there and O’Brien
does not answer immediately which causes Winston to grow more
paranoid. Once O’Brien tells Winston that he and Martin are part of the
Brotherhood the tone changes to a calmer state.
• “ The whole atmosphere of the huge block of flats, the richness and
spaciousness of everything, the unfamiliar smells of good food and good
tobacco, the silent and incredibly rapid flats lifts sliding up and down, the
white-jacketed servants hurrying to and fro-everything was intimidating.”
- Orwell uses imagery to give us a closer inside look at what the life
of an Inner party member Is like compared to the run down Victory
Mansions and other inadequate living styles that Winston and Julia
have to deal with. It also shows us the fancy décor and other things the Inner party can obtain like velvet carpeting, good cigarettes and
wine and even servants.
• Symbolism
- Before Winston and Julia realize the Brotherhood was a setup,
Martin the quiet servant of O’Brien symbolizes and makes Winston
and Julia believe that the Brotherhood is everywhere even places that
people wouldn’t normally think, and that there are people all over just
like them, which leads Winston and especially Julia to believe the
Brotherhood is real and there decision to join it was right.
1. What is Winston's only evidence that O’Brien is a Brotherhood member and
why is it to late for him to go back once they are inside?
- The only evidence that Winston posses is a small timeframe in which
Winston and O’Brien have made eye contact, and the remark that O’Brien
makes in Winston's dream. After Winston's desire to receive an answer
from O’Brien calmed he realizes he made a grave mistake and if O’Brien
isn't a member then he will be taken by the thought police. This occurs
after he has walked in with Julia which would make it to noticeable for him
to ask for the dictionary and leave.
2. Knowing that Winston and Julia will be later captured, why does O’Brien ask
them so many impelling questions?
- O’Brien asks them if they are ready to kill, commit suicide, and even throw
sulphuric acid into a child's face because he wants to make sure that they
are completely against the government. Also it is a cover-up to make it
seem like a standard procedure that members must go through to join the
so called “Brotherhood”.
3. What does O’Brien tell Winston is the only thing he’ll ever know about
the government, why?
- Winston will only ever know that the Brotherhood as an idea exists.
The Brotherhood itself is not actually an organization with a buildings
and meetings and such. It is just a thought built around a numerous
amount of people. This is because O’Brien tells them that even
Brotherhood members themselves do not know who other members
are, they just know their assignment and a group of three or four
contacts. This helps in case of an arrest, the member doesn’t really
know anybody else and cannot give any information about any other
members because they are isolated. Even Emmanuel Goldstein himself
is said to not keep a list of who his members are for a pre-caution.
4. Also knowing that they are to be later captured, why does O’Brien not
immediately give Winston Emmanuel Goldstein's book?
- O’Brien does this because he wants Winston to think that the Brotherhood is
bigger than he thinks. O’Brien says that it may take awhile for him to get the
book because the thought police are finding and destroying them faster than
they can write them. This makes Winston believe that there really are other
members who have the same driven desire to go against the government.
5. What does O’Brien completing the old nursery rhyme say about his nature as
a person, and how does it affect Winston?
- Finishing the rhyme signifies that even though O’Brien is an Inner Party
member, part of those who everyday corrupt the mind of society and
those who are closest to the government, he still retains some piece of
pre-revolutionary thought that hasn’t been taken away from him. This will
also be part of Winston ultimate demise because after hearing O’Brien
complete the line he believes that O’Brien is a person that can be trusted
as a leader and he is satisfied that he made his decision to join the
Brotherhood.
• Winston and Julia make a daring move to go to see O'Brien together at his
house in an Inner party neighborhood. They are amazed by the sheer luxury
that the Inner party members live in. Once they are inside O'Brien turns off
his telescreen claiming that Outer Party members have that right as long as
it doesn’t last more than a half an hour or the party would become
suspicious. Winston is asked to state his purpose and lets go everything
about how he thinks O’Brien is a member of the Brotherhood and that Julia
and himself are completely against the party and they want O’Brien to help
them gain access to the brotherhood. One of O'Brien's servants Martin was
in the room listening to the whole thing, but O’Brien tells them that he is
indeed part of the Brotherhood and so is Martin. O’Brien then proceeds to
got through and ask what Winston and Julia are willing to do for the
brotherhood. Winston and Julia both agree to all of the circumstances that
O’Brien proposes as long as they are not split up. O’Brien toasts to his
newly recruited members of the Brotherhood and then proclaims everything
about it. He tells of how Emmanuel Goldstein, the leader of the Brotherhood
does not know who his members even are, even members themselves do
not know who other members are. He also states that under any
circumstances one member of the Brotherhood will never help out another in
danger as a precaution.
• Lastly O’Brien tells them that the Brotherhood has a book that each member
must read to be officially part of the brotherhood. Winston is told that he will be
given a secret coded message as to where to go an receive the book which will
be enclosed in a briefcase. Winston has two weeks to read the book before he
had to return it. Finally as a last note before they leave Winston states the quote
“we shall meet in a place where there is no darkness” that he remembered from
the dream he had had with O'Brien and O’Brien surprisingly understands this
quote, along with the nursery rhyme that Mr. Charrington is always singing.
• In this chapter we see more of Winston's daring and foolish side because he is
going to O'Brien's home to see if he can gain him access to the Brotherhood
only on a simple dream that they had. If O’Brien turns out to be just another
member he could turn him in because Winston and Julia came together, also if
they are caught in the neighbor hood by the thought police they could be thrown
out. Once they settle in with O’Brien he tells them he is part of the Brotherhood
and gives them in-depth questioning which he does to make sure that Winston
and Julia are completely ready to give up who they are to become new people.
Finally Winston tells O’Brien the quote from his dream which O’Brien nodes in
compliance foreshadowing Winston's capture in the future.
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