Chosen respondents: Tim Flannery & Scott Ludlam In response to Dr Alan Finkel’s essay Getting to Zero, Flannery and Ludlam each expressed their opinions on his roadmap towards net zero carbon emissions. Flannery’s much more vehement and progressive analysis of Finkel’s essay raised issues with Finkel’s support of using natural gas as a “transition fuel” during the process of converting Australia to means of clean electrical energy production. Conversely, Ludlam is more prudent in his response, acknowledging Finkel’s experience and expertise in the field of sustainable energy production and climate systems, while establishing social concerns surrounding the scale of the project. From the outset, Flannery voices his doubts concerning Finkel’s approach towards transitioning to renewables. Stating that Finkel’s suggestion of utilising gas as a firming agent was “inconsistent” with both “a safe climate” as well as “twenty five of Australia’s top climate [scientists’]” views, Flannery confidently dissects Finkel’s argument, yet provides no reasoning as to why gas cannot be used as a source of transitionary energy, other than the inferred emissions and environmental concerns-based argument. Propagating a similarly styled argument founded on pathos with nuclear energy, Flannery attempts to undermine Finkel’s evidence-based logos with hollow claims that Finkel seemingly baselessly “backs away” from nuclear power as a source of energy, despite Finkel stating nuclear energy would not be possible in Australia due to “populations around the world [living] in fear of nuclear disaster” as well as lack of “government … leadership”. Finkel furthers this concept in a recent article published by The Guardian, where he posits “legislation” and “various operational, political and cost challenges faced by the nuclear industry” as limitations of nuclear power. Despite this, Flannery poses a valid argument when it comes to obtaining hydrogen from coal and gas as well as carbon capture and storage (CCS) associated with it. A large majority of the statistics used in Finkel’s essay are derived from credible sources such as the CSIRO, the BOM, and other conclusions are made based on computer modelling. According to Finkel, the accuracy of such modelling is promised by “hypotheses debated and refined for thirty years, and credible data from billions of data points around the planet over many decades of recording”. Moreover, Flannery and Ludlam both praise Finkel’s analysis, further demonstrating the relevance and quality of his scientific methods and results. However, in rebutting Finkel’s claims that “producing hydrogen from fossil fuels … will [not] proceed without carbon capture and storage”, Flannery utilises numerical evidence of Victoria’s La Trobe Valley coal-to-hydrogen plant venting carbon dioxide into the atmosphere at a “rate of around 88 kilograms for every kilogram of hydrogen created”, implying the greenhouse gas emissions from utilising underdeveloped technology is . To this, Finkel has limited response, merely stating that “using fossil fuels with CCS” depends on “economics”, suggesting Flannery’s criticism on this aspect of Finkel’s roadmap is justified and has potentially unearthed a purposely omitted piece of data, perhaps unveiling some systematic bias. However, in an article published by The Guardian on the La Trobe Valley plant, Jeremy Stone, non-executive director of J-Power Latrobe Valley stated that “about 11.5kg of CO2 [is being produced] for every kilo of hydrogen”. Therefore, it is difficult to determine which statements are more accurate due to implicit bias being factors in both. Contrastingly, Ludlam is more supporting of Finkel’s suggestions, claiming with the scientist that “we are facing “political questions … not technical ones”. Like Flannery, Ludlam agrees that electrifying the nation should be achieved with a “zero-emissions electricity grid powered by the sun and wind, and distributed backup in the form of batteries and pumped hydro”. However, unlike Flannery, Ludlam doesn’t outright admonish Finkel’s roadmap towards zero emissions, rather, pointing out a critical aspect that Ludlam considers “cautionary”. Using a cause and effect sequence to elicit the scope and magnitude of Finkel’s proposal, Ludlam reveals that “a high-end solar field would occupy an astonishing 20,000 square kilometres of land”. Therefore, he makes it evident that using such vast amounts of land may easily extend into the territories and lands of the Indigenous peoples, raising an ethical and social issue concerned with the roadmap. In correspondence to this, Finkel concedes that it is essential to “have policies in place [encouraging] high-efficiency technologies and practices”. However, he backs off slightly, indicating that he may ultimately not agree with Ludlam’s “lower impact” solution of higher-efficiency energy usage. Therefore, it can be deduced that Finkel has not made adequate consideration for the ethical considerations raised by Ludlam, and consequently inadequately addressed Ludlam’s main concern. Ultimately, there is no perfect solution nor pathway towards reaching zero. Although Dr Finkel’s highly informative essay Getting to Zero lays down the groundwork needed to be completed in order to reach the target, it does lack focus in some facets as mentioned by Flannery and Ludlam; the still premature technology surrounding CCS, and the societal impacts of using large amounts of land for wind and solar farms. Thus, while Finkel’s plan is imperfect, it is certainly a solid base to build upon. References: Finkel, A. (2024, March 21). Here’s why there is no nuclear option for Australia to reach net zero. The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/22/hereswhy-there-is-no-nuclear-option-for-australia-to-reach-net-zero Readfearn, G. (2023, March 7). Japan to spend $2.35bn on turning Victorian Latrobe Valley coal into “clean hydrogen.” The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/07/japan-to-spend-235bn-onturning-victorian-latrobe-valley-coal-into-clean-hydrogen