REPUBLIC
Polemarchus
327a
b
Socrates’ narration begins: I went down
to the Piraeus yesterday with Glaucon, the son
of Ariston, to say a prayer to the goddess, and
also because I wanted to see how they would
manage the festival, since they were holding it
for the first time. I thought the procession of the
local residents was beautiful, but the show put
on by the Thracians was no less so, in my view.
After we had said our prayer and watched the
procession, we started back toward town. Then
Polemarchus, the son of Cephalus, saw us from
a distance as we were hurrying homeward, and
told his slave boy to run and ask us to wait for
him. The boy caught hold of my cloak from
behind.
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Glaucon:
Polemarchus:
Adeimantus:
328a
Socrates:
slave:
I turned around and asked where he was
Polemarchus:
slave:
Glaucon:
c
Shortly after that, Polemarchus caught up with
us. Adeimantus, Glaucon’s brother, was with
him, and so were Niceratus, the son of Nicias,
and some others, all of whom were apparently
on their way from the procession.
Republic
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Hê theos:
hê theos
b
Glaucon:
Socrates:
So, we went to Polemarchus’ house, and there
we found Lysias and Euthydemus, the brothers
of Polemarchus, and what is more, Thrasymachus of Chalcedon was there too, and Charmantides of Paeania, and Clitophon, the son
of Aristonymus. Polemarchus’ father, Cephalus,
was also inside, and I thought he looked quite
old. You see, I hadn’t seen him for some time.
He was sitting on a sort of chair with cushions
and had a wreath on his head, as he had been
offering a sacrifice in the courtyard. We sat down
c
beside him, since some chairs were arranged in
a circle there. As soon as he saw me, Cephalus
greeted me:
c
d
d
and
Socrates:
I admired him for saying that, and I wanted
him to tell me more, so I urged him on.
e
e
Cephalus:
Cephalus:
329a
330a
b
that
Socrates:
Cephalus:
b
Republic,
b
Socrates:
c
Socrates:
c
Cephalus:
Socrates:
d
Cephalus:
Cephalus:
Socrates:
e
d
Polemarchus interrupted:
Cephalus:
Polemarchus:
331a
Cephalus replied with a laugh:
And off he went to the sacrifice.
Socrates:
e
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
d
Polemarchus:
332a
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
e
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
b
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
in fact
Socrates:
c
what is appropriate to him,
what he is owed
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
333a
Republic,
Socrates:
Socrates:
b
e
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
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Polemarchus:
Socrates:
c
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
b
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
d
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
c
Polemarchus:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Odyssey
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
d
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
count
Socrates:
my acPolemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
c
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
e
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
d
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
335a
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
b
provided he is good,
provided he is bad?
Polemarchus:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
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you
d
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
e
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
His words startled me and, looking at him, I was
afraid. And I think if I had not seen him before
he looked at me, I would have been dumbstruck.
But as it was, I happened to look at him just
as he began to be exasperated by our argument,
so I was able to answer; and trembling a little,
I said:
e
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
336a
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
337a
b
Now, while we were speaking, Thrasymachus
had tried many times to take over the discussion
but was restrained by those sitting near him,
who wanted to hear our argument to the end.
When we paused after what I had just said,
however, he could not keep quiet any longer:
crouched up like a wild beast about to spring,
he hurled himself at us as if to tear us to pieces.
Polemarchus and I were frightened and flustered
as he roared into our midst:
When he heard that, he gave a loud sarcastic
laugh:
you
Socrates:
b
c
While I was saying this, Glaucon and the others
begged him to do as I asked. Thrasymachus
clearly wanted to speak in order to win a good
reputation, since he thought he had a very good
answer. But he pretended to want to win a victory
at my expense by having me do the answering.
However, he agreed in the end, and then said:
c
Thrasymachus:
b
Socrates:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Thrasymachus:
c
Socrates:
d
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
d
Socrates:
Glaucon:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Thrasymachus:
e
Socrates:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
e
338a
Republic,
339a
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
e
Socrates:
for the stronger
Thrasymachus:
b
Socrates:
is
Polemarchus:
340a
for the stronger
And Clitophon interrupted:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Clitophon:
c
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Polemarchus:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
b
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Clitophon:
believes
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
d
Polemarchus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
c
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
that
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
d
c
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
e
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
d
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
341a
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
b
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
e
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He finally agreed to this too, although he tried
to fight it. When he had agreed, however, I said:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
342a
Thrasymachus
Socrates
Thrasymachus
Socrates
e
b
He reluctantly agreed
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
c
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
When we reached this point in the argument
and it was clear to all that his account of justice
had turned into its opposite, instead of answering, Thrasymachus said:
343a
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
He gave in at this point as well, very reluctantly
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
b
Socrates:
d
b
c
c
d
e
Having, like a bath attendant, emptied this great
flood of words into our ears all at once, Thrasymachus was thinking of leaving. But those present wouldn’t let him. They made him stay and
give an account of what he had said. And I
myself was particularly insistent:
d
e
344a
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
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345a
346a
is
does
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
b
Thrasymachus:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
b
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
c
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
d
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
e
He reluctantly agreed.
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Socrates:
c
d
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
d
e
not to rule,
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
it—
e
347a
Glaucon:
Glaucon:
Socrates:
348a
Socrates:
Glaucon:
Socrates:
Glaucon:
Socrates:
b
Glaucon:
Socrates:
b
c
Glaucon:
Socrates:
Glaucon:
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Socrates:
349a
Thrasymachus:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
c
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
I
my account
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
d
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
b
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Socrates:
c
e
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
unjust
unjust
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Euêtheia, kakoêtheia:
euêtheia
and
kakoêtheia—
d
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
like
b
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
e
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
c
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
350a
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus agreed to all this, not easily as I
am telling it, but reluctantly, with toil, trouble,
and—since it was summer—a quantity of sweat
that was amazing to behold. And then I saw
something I had never seen before—Thrasymachus blushing. But in any case, after we had
agreed that justice is virtue and wisdom and that
injustice is vice and ignorance, I said:
d
Republic,
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
e
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
d
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Socrates:
351a
e
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
b
Thrasymachus:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Socrates:
352a
Thrasymachus:
c
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
b
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
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Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
353a
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
c
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
b
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
d
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
c
e
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Republic,
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
d
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
b
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
c
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
e
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Socrates’ narration continues: When I had
said this, I thought I had done with the discussion. But it all turned out to be only a prelude,
as it were. You see, Glaucon, who is always
very courageous in everything, refused on this
occasion, too, to accept Thrasymachus’ capitulation. Instead, he said:
357a
seem
Thrasymachus:
really
Socrates:
354a
Socrates:
Glaucon:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Thrasymachus:
Socrates:
Socrates:
b