Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
STARTS AT 1:45
INVESTIGATOR READS MICHELLE HER RIGHTS
INVESTIGATOR
That was with your ex, or your baby’s dad.
WOMAN
Everything still the same.
INVESTIGATOR
Okay, I’m just going to write it down, you’re talking about Chris like your pretty recent ex-boyfriend, and
then he’s got it sideways his last name is Cincade he’s about 41 and where’s his address?
WOMAN
808 West A Luke.
INVESTIGATOR
Because you know at some point we have to make aware of that guy kind of what’s going on. And I
know, you were talking to majors, were you worried about Dan? Cause you said you saw a car today and
with some random California plates.
WOMAN
I’m worried about the whole crew down there.
INVESTIGATOR
The whole crew in Oakland? Yeah, we sent a couple of guys down cause what we do is just talk to
everybody, so were talking to everybody could find in Oakland. Yeah there’s some weird stuff going on
down there.
WOMAN
It’s crazy.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah, but you don’t have any ties to any of those Oakland people, right?
WOMAN
No, god no I don’t know any but Josh’s ex wife and she despises me and him being together.
INVESTIGATOR
Who’s his ex-wife?
WOMAN
Her name is Tania.
INVESTIGATOR
Okay, yeah, I think we knew that, she’s not happy with you and josh being together?
WOMAN
She’s yeah, she’s hated me always because Josh has always liked but I never you know until they were
split.
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INVESTIGATOR
Yeah, I know. Its hard to be with somebody that’s married.
WOMAN
So I’m kind of just worried, she’s found me before, just to harass me.
INVESTIGATOR
Right.
WOMAN
I know she’s friend with all of those scumbags down there and so I’m like.
INVESTIGATOR
Does Dan have a lady down there right now you think?
WOMAN
I really don’t know like any Dan questions really im really limited on what I can tell very much about him.
INVESTIGATOR
Because we’ve been talking to people like know Dan with friends and some girls and stuff. But Josh
knows a people down there?
WOMAN
Yeah Josh knows a lot of people down there.
MAN
And somebody I don’t know why but somebody asked me if Sage is Josh’s kid.
WOMAN
Its Tania’s kid.
INVESTIGATOR
Okay, so he’s like his step-son.
WOMAN
Yeah.
INVESTIGATOR
Okay, so he like wrapped up in weird stuff with him down there?
WOMAN
Yeah at night he uses drugs and that whole anarchist criminal.
INVESTIGATOR
With his last ex is Tania?
WOMAN
Yes.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
WOMAN
She has people in longview like I think he has a brother there maybe , Josh knows way more about that
too. So, I’ve just been really wearing sunglasses and my hood up and stuff.
INVESTIGATOR
I mean other than, bouncing around hotels, do they know where you live in?
WOMAN
I don’t think Josh has had any contact with them I don’t see how he would’ve.
INVESTIGATOR
So are you guys without a place now?
WOMAN
Yeah, I told you we had a fight at that place now and they saw the story in the paper the names
together.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah because you said there was something in like a small-town newspaper.
WOMAN
The little Longview.
INVESTIGATOR
Did it have like had your name in it?
WOMAN
It had our names and my full name, Michelle Karin Warden Brosey and Madeleine’s Dad. We were at the
motel 6 at the time and he goes you now the paper says the address of where you guys are staying and
your names and total descriptions of your cars.
INVESTIGATOR
Had the address of your?
WOMAN
The motel.
INVESTIGATOR
So they put in the paper that you guys are staying at motel 6? That’s why I asked if you had to get out of
there you know for the media and for that paper, that whole thing and the news media picked up on
that the ones that did we shut them down but that’s no one ever saw that paper with your name and
josh’s name I think it didn’t even have dan’s name at the time.
WOMAN
Yeah, I believe so.
INVESTIGATOR
Okay, I’m glad your stuff with your step daughter figured out cause clearly that’s important to him.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
WOMAN
Her Dad and I, we get along very very well, was there at his house tonight and he was real concerned
and made sure that I did all of it and something like that so that she could…
INVESTIGATOR
So does he have concerns about Chris at all? Was Madeleine, the daughter, was she at chrises at some
point?
WOMAN
Yeah well, we lived there. And he was only there… Like. I told you earlier, that he works out of town,
and he was only there every other weekend and uh so it was pretty chill.
INVESTIGATOR
Right, so you just call him once in a while.
WOMAN
I also like, the second time hanging out with him face to face it was pretty clear that he was not stable.
INVESTIGATOR
Okay
WOMAN
Super abusive to his own daughter that’s Madeleine’s age.
INVESTIGATOR
Who’s that?
WOMAN
Her name is Maika and I think her last name is Cincade as well.
INVESTIGATOR
So you said not stable like not mentally stable?
WOMAN
Not at all, pretty scary.
INVESTIGATOR
And you think she’s about 12 or 13?
WOMAN
She is 13. She and Madeline are the same age and its just like, Chris and I (sighs) we dated when we
were in our early 20s. So yeah there’s this connection from before but he’s nothing like I remember
although he was kind of… the Signs were there looking back that I’m just wrong.
INVESTIGATOR
Like mental health issues. Was he like off meds, on meds?
WOMAN
He has been on psych meds, that’s what he said anyways you know he says a lot of things.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
INVESTIGATOR
So what you thought he was probably sideways… And you said he was a guy who probably has guns.
WOMAN
Yeah, Madeline’s dad went there to pick up her stuff he had a gun, he called me immediately after they
left there and he was like this dude, he’s off his rails.
INVESTIGATOR
Who, called you?
WOMAN
Madeline’s dad.
INVESTIGATOR
Oh okay.
WOMAN
Madeline, he took his truck over to get Madeline’s stuff out of his house, said that he was paranoid, said
that he was putting up cameras and got these phone calls from Portland and he knew the sort of the
crowd that Tiffany hung out with.
INVESTIGATOR
That’s Ron calling you?
WOMAN
Yeah and I did not believe any of the things Chris told Ron really, except for the fact that he and Ron was
concerned enough to tell me and wanted watch your back a little bit here too.
INVESTIGATOR
Get those shit going?
WOMAN
Yeah, because he had gun in hoster.
INVESTIGATOR
Was he worried about him?
WOMAN
Yeah, he was worried that’s what Ron… he was sweating profusely.
INVESTIGATOR
Okay.
WOMAN
He likes to make drama though, but he is, won’t put anything
INVESTIGATOR
You mean this guy wouldn’t go sideways?
INVESTIGATOR
So he got it at home you know I’ll try to catch you up been talking to guys and I’m going to run you
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
through all this stuff. All these other guys talk to you about but the two guns that you and Josh had, the
32 the one that you like rack. The one where you slide it one, and then the one with the spinner on it
the bigger one was clyde
WOMAN
Yeah.
INVESTIGATOR
And that’s all they got Bonnie out of the room.
INVESTIGATOR
So do you remember when you guys got those guns?
WOMAN
The little one was given to me by Josh the big one was given to me by a gentleman that I used to take
care of. It was a cheap collector thing in a box.
INVESTIGATOR
Do you know when that guy gave it to you?
WOMAN
About a year ago.
INVESTIGATOR
Okay so you’ve had it a while.
WOMAN
Yeah
INVESTIGATOR
Have you ever shot it? Have you ever got out and target practicing?
WOMAN (Laughs)
No.
INVESTIGATOR
Do you remember who that guy was?
WOMAN
Yeah, his name is Don I can’t remember his last name right now, Millet? M-I-L-E-T. He passed away last
October. Almost exactly to this day. He was 93 years old.
INVESTIGATOR
So old guy, he had probably the gun for a really long time.
WOMAN
Yeah. He does
INVESTIGATOR
And then the other one, “Clyde”.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
WOMAN
That one I don’t know much about other than Josh brought it from Oakland bought if off some
crackhead, I don’t know.
INVESTIGATOR
Like the first guy he ran in to.
WOMAN
Yeah, guess so.
INVESTIGATOR
Do you know how long he had that?
WOMAN
I know that he brought it up with him when he came back in January of 2012. But I don’t know how long
like if he had it for a long time ago.
(INAUDIBLE)
(SHOWS HER A PHOTO)
INVESTIGATOR
This must be, I’m gonna pull this up, its like a Halloween picture of you, so that’s Bonnie. Pretty good
picture.
WOMAN
Madine and me were trick or treating.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah.
(SHOWS HER PHOTO OF GUN)
INVESTIGATOR
Well that’s the one that we got off the hotel room, that’s the same kind.
WOMAN
I don’t remember this, I’ve only seen it out of the box just a couple of times.
INVESTIGATOR
Okay, just thought it would help, Halloween posing with a gun.
WOMAN
Well Josh carried it sometimes.
INVESTIGATOR
Carry it on him?
WOMAN
Yeah. Like when he’s going somewhere shady or whatever and he’s was scared. When he came back
from Oakland in 2012, he was thinking, he screwed over some one .
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
INVESTIGATOR
The wrong people?
WOMAN
Yeah so, he’s a little paranoid here and there.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah, we got some guys working in Oakland working with locals there and they were like you know
there are some pretty sketchy guys there, and pretty much everybody’s got a gun, and that’s just the
way things are. I can see where your coming at from there it’s like it’s notWOMAN
Mostly he was like pretty consistent on keeping one there when I was there by myself, but actually there
were a few times where I did feel a little safer when I was out there with it. But I would not rather know
what to do with it, how to use it.
INVESTIGATOR
So you like never shot it?
WOMAN
I have, a long long time ago. My dad had some rifles and stuff when I was a kid and uhm that was the
last time that I shot it thinking about through all of this, was with my dad, one was in the woods not long
before my dad died, so I can’t shoot for shit.
(They laugh)
INVESTIGATOR
It looks easy on TV.
WOMAN
Yeah.
INVESTIGATOR
So I know cops have pretty much holster but Josh has the gun in a holster? For most people they just
carry the gun.
WOMAN
I never saw a holster or anything like that when I had the big one, he left it was just in a bag, a handbag.
And not usually carry it around.
INVESTIGATOR
So what does he where does he put it in when he has to go somewhere sketchy where does he stick it in
pocket or?
WOMAN
I couldn’t tell you a hundred percent.
INVESTIGATOR
I don’t want you to guess just what you saw.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
WOMAN
I don’t really remember,
INVESTIGATOR
So, when you were tripping that night and, in a vibe, were the guns there with you that night?
WOMAN
I don’t know if Josh had the 32 but I know that I had the other one (the big one) and I think it was in the
trunk of the car but I can’t say for positive but that where ended being Dan told me the reason for
coming up is to buy that. At one point during the trip he told me that for it for positive, he said that his
friend was coming up to hang out in Portland. I thought that was kind of weird.
INVESTIGATOR
But I mean, because you can get a gun in Oakland, it’s not that hard.
WOMAN
Yeah, I think so but I wanted it out for a long time and it was like oh we need the money to get into a
place and for the wedding and stuff so a friend is just going to come up and get that.
INVESTIGATOR
So did he pay Josh?
WOMAN
I didn’t see any money exchange hands but Josh did have a lot more money than he usually has.
INVESTIGATOR
Okay so he did have cash.
WOMAN
I mean I didn’t see an exchange.
INVESTIGATOR
Okay and then when, so when Dan trips from the bus station does he have a gun then?
WOMAN
I don’t know cause I never saw it, my daughter said that she saw it on the counter and I went sweetie
I’m sorry that there’s a gun out in front of you and she’s like oh its cool and I said lets remove the bullets
in there or whatever and did she anything like that and she goes no is that the little one that you guys
had the dark colored one, so I don’t know but the detectives told me that they found out so.
INVESTIGATOR
So she probably did saw it at the motel?
WOMAN
That’s right that’s the same time and if it was just laying out or whatever, that doesn’t sound like Josh
wouldn’t have ever done that, it was not, no.
INVESTIGATOR
So were you guys like drinking pretty hard that night? And I think you’ve talked about like you’ve had
some time in rehab, maybe thinking about heading that way again?
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
WOMAN
9 o’clock in the morning.
INVESTIGATOR
Oh you got a plan?
WOMAN
I’ll probably go to meetings tomorrow starting at 9 and then I’m just gonna feel it out if there some
place I need to be going
INVESTIGATOR
Well you know just go in there and sit and you don’t have to vomit out some stuff like you’ve been to
meetings before.
WOMAN
Right yeah
INVESTIGATOR
You might get that little one thing where someone says hey things are fucked up and then from there
somehow
WOMAN
The miraculous part is that Josh is going to go.
INVESTIGATOR
Really, he’s on board too?
WOMAN
Yeah, never anything like ever know him all these years like he was on board with and like he’s been
saying stuff these guys at work go to church and stuff this was you know when he came up he said he
was when he came up he said he’s gonna go to counseling to take action about this and that, it was the
only reason a time of day like seeing him just a little something different than usual.
INVESTIGATOR
I mean is it pretty much just alcohol for you or?
WOMAN
No, yeah that’s’ completely.
INVESTIGATOR
You don’t look like somebody that smokes meth or shoots heroine.
WOMAN
No, alcohol was my drug of choice at a very young age.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah and that’s how it always starts. Drinking pretty early. So do you take anything now? Like
prescription?
WOMAN
No.
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INVESTIGATOR
Okay, I mean you look like tired but I get, all day in court.
WOMAN
Yeah, I need some, I have but they have gone untouched.
INVESTIGATOR
Is that from being diagnosed with PTSD?
WOMAN
Yeah, I’ve been hospitalized so probably a dozen times.
INVESTIGATOR
And I don’t need to know what precipitated that, I mean that’s been a while.
WOMAN
Yeah. I think last one was in the 90s.
INVESTIGATOR
I mean like in the past you know ah your just fucked up, but now like more and more people like
recognize the signs of PTSD and you know the good news is there’s treatment for it, sometimes its
chemical treatment sometimes its counseling.
WOMAN
Yeah sometimes it works.
INVESTIGATOR
So you said you thought about going to the hospital yesterday or?.
WOMAN
Yeah, I was pretty borderline suicidal,
INVESTIGATOR
Was that more about stuff with your kid or something else?
WOMAN
It was, different stuff that happened that hurt so much.
INVESTIGATOR
Different stuff starts coming back yeah and that’s the thing with PTSD, I had several doctors explain it to
me, that have some traumatic shit happening my head wasn’t right and I better go get it checked right,
and you know she said stuff happens and it gets stuck in your head and you remember some traumatic
shit doesn’t matter one incident or bunch of them together and that thing doesn’t get put in the right
file and so its there and your walking around and you see something or smell something and then bam!
Cause your body and your soul tell you you’re relieving it, it’s happening right now. So, what they do is
do different kinds of treatment so it goes in the right file. So what they do is different treatments so they
put it in the right file.
INVESTIGATOR
I think being in the Cadillac, with Josh and Dan and Tiffany that’s another traumatic, you didn’t plan on it
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
but now it’s a traumatic night, but it turned out to be you know, another emotion, that probably a lot of
what’s going on.
INVESTIGATOR
So are you over the feeling, suicidal thing?
WOMAN
Right now?
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah right now.
INVESTIGATOR
So I mean you could hold on to that and you know the good thing about it you get older and realize,
yeah there’s hope.
(PAUSE)
INVESTIGATOR
The Halloween picture again. They got it from like your phone, That’s you?
WOMAN
That’s me.
INVESTIGATOR
With it looks like the gun in your mouth, you know people do weird stuff I have kind of a dark sense of
humor. Just um, do you know which gun that is? there was January this year- you remember that
happening?
(CRYING HEAVY BREATHING)
WOMAN
No. I feel sick.
INVESTIGATOR
You want some water to drink? Or yeah maybe just grab a garbage can.
INVESTIGATOR
So you said you don’t remember that so when you drink are you like a person who has blackouts.
WOMAN
Yeah.
INVESTIGATOR
Okay/ Because you know blackouts from drinking are not unusual for someone who drinks a lot. We’re
they like o shit I lost hours or don’t know what I did for a couple of days kind of blackout?
WOMAN
At one-point chunks of a week will be gone and then sometimes its I’m not even sure, its kind of like
dreaming.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
INVESTIGATOR
Like a present calling, the blackouts are like some version of pretty hazey like you seem there but it
doesn’t seem real, is that the kind of thing you’re talking about or?
(PAUSE) (SHE CRIES)
INVESTIGATOR
Don’t forget to breathe. Drink some of that. Take a deep breath.
INVESTIGATOR
What are you thinking about right now?
WOMAN
I’ve had a gun to my head before.
INVESTIGATOR
You have? That’s some scary shit. Right there, by im assuming by not nice people? Was that recently?
WOMAN
No, I don’t remember, but it was a long time ago and I didn’t call the police and nothing happened and it
doesn’t matter.
INVESTIGATOR
Some of this, this is like the bigger one.
WOMAN
It looks something like that.
INVESTIGATOR
Well that’s, something that the California guys sent to me the guys in California because we got that
gun, so if your concerned about Dan having that gun, you don’t have to worry about that kind of thing
happening anymore.
(PAUSE)
WOMAN
You take care of Dan?
INVESTIGATOR
We did, but have you ever shot that gun?
WOMAN
No.
INVESTIGATOR
So when your linep up you know the bullets, all live bullets, there’s one missing, which is probably the
one that got used on Tiffany. (PAUSE) What’s that?
WOMAN
I can’t do this.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
INVESTIGATOR
Can’t do what? I haven’t lied to you about anything, I don’t want to lie to you, so I’m not going to start
lying now. That’s Dan, is that the guy you know as Dan?
WOMAN
I think so but he looks different in that picture. So, I’m not sure.
INVESTIGATOR
Okay, that’s from the booking facility in Oakland. So that’s good news right no need to worry about that,
lets just worry about the gun.
INVESTIGATOR
Have you seen his tattoos? That’s his tattoo, do you recognize that?
WOMAN
No. I never saw it.
INVESTIGATOR
I understand that. Yeah so, they got Dan and uhm Dan talked he was telling us about what happened
that night, and what Dan’s telling us is what he saw happened, so I’m trying to figure out, like when the
three people sit and see something and I see something different, so we just got to get, to that middle
ground where yeah that’s what happened exact. He talks about being in the car and the Cadillac with
you driving and Josh going out, leaving at like 2 something in the morning leaving in the bar and he was
in the back with Tiffany, so we know that’s all true. And then he talked about you guys going out and in
conversation like hey let’s go out and shoot these guns out the window you know all of them you know
shoot them outside.
(SHE WHISPERS)
INVESTIGATOR
What’s that? Is that not the way it happened?
WOMAN
I don’t remember, everything was blur.
INVESTIGATOR
Were you ever stopping anywhere? Like maybe you had to get out go pee or maybe Tiffany had to?
WOMAN
That’s what I don’t remember. I don’t know sorry.
INVESTIGATOR
Didn’t know what?
WOMAN
We stopped a couple of times.
INVESTIGATOR
Oh you stopped a couple of times. Do you remember I don’t expect you to tell me exactly but why did
you guys stop?
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
WOMAN
We stopped at, we stopped a couple of times. I know I peed somewhere and we started smoking pot
somewhere.
INVESTIGATOR
Okay, those guys, Josh and Dan and Tiffany
WOMAN
Yeah, I guess it was all of us.
INVESTIGATOR
And what Dan remembers too, he thought maybe at some point Tiffany went over to go pee but he
wasn’t really sure, so we talked about that and he said you got back in the car and drove further out and
then stopped again.
WOMAN
I don’t know we stopped a couple of times. A couple of places, and drank some beers there was a
building there was we went to the bathroom in there. I don’t know for sure. It was gravel.
MAN
Like a gravel road?
WOMAN
I don’t know, yeah, I think, we parked there.
(PAUSE)
INVESTIGATOR
Well that’s good, you’re walking thtough this slowly but it will come back, you remember what
happened after that?
WOMAN
I can’t tell you the order of anything, happened, just bits and pieces here and there.
INVESTIGATOR
Do you remember stopping somewhere else?
WOMAN
No, I mean like I said we stopped a couple of places which I don’t, Josh and I went out into the woods
and we had sex which I don’t really remember, kind of foggy.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah so at that point you guys were totally away from Dan and Tiffany, right?
WOMAN
Yeah but I don’t remember paying too much attention to them other than they were fighting and I kind
of got sketched out we sort of gave them the night. Violent sounding.
INVESTIGATOR
So those two were like going at it? I mean verbally anyway.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
WOMAN
Yeah, they were bickering back and forth, from here and there, he’s calling her crazy she called him a
nigger a bunch of times.
INVESTIGATOR
And that’s what he said too she was kind of just being noisy and then it got worse and she was getting
loud and like verbally abusive, so when those two were yelling at each other were they back in the car?
Were you guys all together back in the car at that point?
WOMAN
It’s same thing that’s on and off but I can tell you, trying really hard.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah, I appreciate that, its coming back, so you and josh go and your together in the woods and you
guys start to have sex away from the car.
WOMAN
Yeah, I think, I’m assuming, at one point, it’s been I was wearing these shoes, she was fighting him.
INVESTIGATOR
its good that you remember stuff helps like the little things like your wearing these shoes, keep
breathing, deep breath. So, were those two not getting along at all that night? Or was it just getting
worse?
WOMAN
I just catch them heard them back and forth.
INVESTIGATOR
Okay. Do you remember you guys being back together in the car? I mean sometimes it helps to jump
ahead I mean do you remember being there leaving? She wasn’t in the car when you left then we know
that.
WOMAN
She was talking back to him in the car (Inaudible)
INVESTIGATOR
Well that’s good so we know she was already in the car saying that or is he coming back.
WOMAN
I remember waiting in the car. (Inaudible)
INVESTIGATOR
So he said that and that point you and Josh went back in the car.
WOMAN
Yeah. We went in the car and she was outside, I think he said that.
INVESTIGATOR
He said just leave then, what he said?
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
WOMAN
I remember they were having a fight and she was just crying.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah and? Pretty big around drama. So that’s all Dan’s comments you know that matches, he said that,
do you remember driving all away, or hanging out for a while?
WOMAN
I’m sorry I can’t remember.
INVESTIGATOR
It’s okay, let’s go ahead farther so you guys ultimately ended back at your hotel right.
WOMAN
Yeah, We were driving back I asked Josh where if he remembers and he said going back.
INVESTIGATOR
Like how to get back to the hotel.
WOMAN
Yeah, I think.
INVESTIGATOR
When you got back to the room was your daughter there?
WOMAN
Yes.
INVESTIGATOR
Do you remember checking on her.
WOMAN
Yeah, kind of, I’m assuming I did it.
INVESTIGATOR
What was the room like was it one bedroom, two bedrooms?
WOMAN
It was a suite. Two beds, and bathroom, She’s was on the sofa. (Inaudible)
WOMAN
Can I see the again?
INVESTIGATOR
This is unrelated I just wanted to show you that, that’s your daughter, right? That’s Madeline.
WOMAN
Yeah.
INVESTIGATOR
I think that’s from later on was your hair like black back like that?
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
WOMAN
It’s a wig. I can’t do this, not right now.
INVESTIGATOR
How you doing good?
WOMAN
I can’t do anything right now I swear I can’t.
INVESTIGATOR
Okay, I can talk to you about what’s Dan is telling us, he is pretty clear, I mean he’s telling us we went
here, we went here and that’s all true, remembers where he was in the car who was driving and all
that’s going on, consistent with this girl’s tripping, he’s talking about hey you’ve got that gun, then try to
kill her for me, with the gun he got from gun from Michelle and josh and I said okay, and he said uh,
does it, would it surprise you to hear saying that Josh shot that girl?.
WOMAN
It surprised me very much, becausem it can’t be, I don’t remember Josh being away from me. He was
with me.
INVESTIGATOR
Well he was very specific about something was going on in that car. The fighting and what happened, he
said after Tiffany got killed you guys were all together in the car high-fiving each other.
WOMAN
That’s stupid. High-fiving each other.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah.
WOMAN
For what.
INVESTIGATOR
Well he talked about you turning the car around shining the headlights on her to see what Josh wanted
to see her.
WOMAN
There’s no way. Josh didn’t shoot her did he?
INVESTIGATOR
Well you have fill some of this stuff for me.
INVESTIGATOR
I know it’s hard. But I think some of that is you’re struggling inside to do the right thing. I’m pretty sure
you know what happened at the end of the night, but if you let that stay inside you it’s going to eat you
up.
WOMAN
I don’t know.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
INVESTIGATOR
I mean you were specifically pretty close to the girl that got killed, you were Michelle.
WOMAN (CRYING)
Yeah. I know.
INVESTIGATOR
I mean that close, that night, you heard that gunshot, right?
WOMAN
(cries)
INVESTIGATOR
I mean there’s no way you can miss that
WOMAN
That’s what I’ve been thinking.
INVESTIGATOR
So it is there.
(PAUSE)
(Heavy breathing)
INVESTIGATOR
I mean its there Michele but its gotta get out. You alright? Having a hard time?
WOMAN
Yeah, I can’t believe, Josh didn’t do right you’re just saying, that right?
INVESTIGATOR
I wasn’t there, I don’t know who pulled that trigger. If you can tell us what happened then I will know
more. I mean you want to marry the guy. I mean something like that doesn’t happen without people
talking about it before and talking about it afterwards.
WOMAN
Yeah.
INVESTIGATOR
Right, I mean I got drunk with my buddies and got in a fight and it’s a little hazy but we know it was
gonna happen before and we talked about it afterwards.
WOMAN
Yeah, I don’t know the actions for, what happened or something emotions for me it’s so sad. There’s no
peace It went like that. I didn’t know that girl was gonna get hurt.
INVESTIGATOR
I mean there’s a big difference between saying somebody’s going to get hurt and hurting them. Big
difference.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
WOMAN
But what was happening before, I don’t know what’s inside, there’s no way that any of that, I don’t
know maybe some of it.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah, I think you knew. I think part of you knew she was hurt when you left her. Isn’t there?
WOMAN
I’m not sure.
INVESTIGATOR
It’s possible, you must have had some feelings like hey this isn’t right. I don’t know if anybody’s asked
you so I just wanted to ask you; Did you shoot that girl?
WOMAN
Of course not.
INVESTIGATOR
I mean it is it pretty likely she got shot with one of your guns.
WOMAN
I think its pretty likely or I wouldn’t be sitting here right now.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah that’s all true. I know it’s painful to pull up I mean you know from the past when you get that stuff
out you feel better right, I think your probably in the same spot now.
WOMAN
I’m not over it, over it.
INVESTIGATOR
I just need to Know that about stuff right I’m not going to like judge anybody, like with the passing out
and everything. I just know, there’s 4 people in the car somebody died and three people leve, right? Is
that true? That’s what happened right?
WOMAN
Yes.
INVESTIGATOR
We just need to figure out the 3 people who left the there how involved were they in that person’s
death. That’s all I’m trying to do.
WOMAN
I want to be able to tell you the truth.
INVESTIGATOR
You want to be able to tell the truth I know yeah.
WOMAN(CRYING)
I mean she was lying down in the ground in a pool of her own blood, I woke her up you know, I was
saying wake up! And then seeing her whole face, I don’t want to see her.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah.
WOMAN
I don’t want to see, I mean if it was somebody that I know I wouldn’t done it. I guess (crying)
INVESTIGATOR
Its okay.
WOMAN
What’s okay?
INVESTIGATOR
You didn’t do it, I mean I know you, take a deep breath, its okay. I mean it seems being part of getting
some recovery and I would assume at that end, people either would discuss or talk about some higher
power or some spiritual strength that you can draw from, I mean that’s I believe that too, I put a lot of
names to it but there’s something bigger than us, what do you think?
WOMAN
Yeah
INVESTIGATOR
I mean sometimes there’s that higher power that light power that you know the good side, there’s
another side to it, you know, there’s that dark side, there’s that lower power and some of us you know
get around that stuff and its showed to us and were sucked into that way too young as kids, you know,
so that something I was around when I was a kid didn’t know what it was and kind of got sucked into it,
and it seems like that’s probably your issue too I mean is that true?
WOMAN
I was good kid, I never got in any trouble. Painful things happened and I drink all day.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah cause in drinking there’s relief, but the more you drink the more relief and at some point, you just,
you get there you know, I mean you’re talking to a couple of guys, the kind of lives that we got were
around bad shit, all the time, so sometimes that’s what we do, you know, just to keep our sanity. Well
when you go down that road you go too far and you get sucked into that. I mean Jay and I are both
pretty dark humored guy you know. I mean when that struggle is going on you got to decide what side
of the pitch you’re going to live by, you know.
WOMAN
I’m a good girl.
INVESTIGATOR
So how’s a good girl get wrapped up in a homicide investigation, is it because of Josh and his buddies?
When you talk about that Oakland crew there’s some not nice people down there. Well I can tell you
from the long-long time they talked to Danny he’s got you and Josh pretty well wrapped up in this thing.
WOMAN
GROANS
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
INVESTIGATOR
What’s that?
WOMAN
Tell him that, Josh would have told me stop, I know he would’ve told me something I know that he
would have.
INVESTIGATOR
If he shot her he would have told you?
WOMAN
If he knew more stuff, he would have told me, I’m not sure, he would have, who fucking knows.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah, he might not. The way you talked about you know getting wrapped up around abuse and then
breaking it off like with Chris, really Josh was just the next bad dude you got around and that point.
WOMAN
He’s was going to change, he already has you know.
INVESTIGATOR
He’s changed? No, he’s not.
WOMAN
He’s… I can’t do this anymore.
INVESTIGATOR
You can’t talk about this anymore? What is it that you can’t do?
WOMAN
I can’t take more pain all the time.
INVESTIGATOR
About filled up with the pain meter.
WOMAN (CRYING)
I am a good girl. It’s just this fucking life getting with Josh and like fucked up people.
INVESTIGATOR
That’s good.
WOMAN
I can’t struggle anymore in this life, nothing-nothing good and then they give a little glimpse of the good,
happy and the rest is justINVESTIGATOR
Yeah, I think what you’re struggling with now is holding in about what you know what happened that
night. I mean if you’re a good girl and you’re doing the right thing then you’re going to be honest with us
about that.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
WOMAN (CRYING)
What do you guys want, I am trying, that’s all I have right now, I can’t find it, if there some, I wan to get
it out, get it out, I don’t know.
INVESTIGATOR
Well there’s really only one way to get it out is to get started.
WOMAN
Again I told you, were talking and talking and thinking and praying.
INVESTIGATOR
Praying to do the right thing?
WOMAN
Praying that I can remember more.
INVESTIGATOR
What’s that?
MICHELLE
Praying that I can remember more.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah?
MICHELLE
I’m praying that this is all a bad dream, I know it’s not.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah, I wish it was, but it’s not. You want us to give you a minute alone? Say a prayer by yourself?
MICHELLE
So you can come yell at me some more about stuff I don’t know.
INVESTIGATOR
About stuff that you do know, you and your old man was where somebody got shot and killed and you
were awfully fucking close to it.
MICHELLE
I understand all of that.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah, I mean cause that’s you know writing about this is just like writing hey here’s what I know and
that’s what its going to sound like, Dan was pretty straight up with me and Josh and Michelle are like
yeah we were there and somebody got murdered and I guess we didn’t notice it, that’s what its going to
come out like, cause that’s all your telling me, oh and by the way, you know, the gun that killed this girl
is what, Josh’s gun that he pulled out of your purse, kind of makes it look like you guys are wrapped up a
little bit in that.
MICHELLE
I know. It’s a whole wormhole.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
INVESTIGATOR
And then getting away what do they do? Dan says fuck this I’m out of here, and what do you guys do?
Nothing. Well except that you change your appearance, dyed your hair, took off, Josh changed his
appearance.
MICHELLE
(Mumbles)
INVESTIGATOR
What’s that?
MICHELLE
We didn’t take off, we went to the exact planned that we had had, that we were going to.
INVESTIGATOR
Then what’s, your plan was go up there get married, start a new life or?
MICHELLE
When we moved here, we wanted to get close to my kid, he got his job because ofINVESTIGATOR
Until like after this happened, when did you guys find out that this girl was dead?
MICHELLE
I don’t remember.
INVESTIGATOR
You don’t remember? It’s a pretty big fucking deal, don’t you remember? Isn’t it? You were somewhere
where somebody got killed and like what, nobody talked about it, nobody realized until you saw it on
the news? Josh never talked about it? You guys supplied a murder weapon to a murder you witnessed it,
you drove away, either Josh or Dan shot that girl and then you helped him get out of town, it doesn’t
look to good for you Michelle.
MICHELLE
I know it doesn’t, what am I supposed to do?
INVESTIGATOR
Tell me the truth about what you saw that night, what you heard that night.
MICHELLE
Don’t you think that, that would be the ideal thing to do, if I can like tell you exactly.
INVESTIGATOR
I do.
MICHELLE
I do too.
INVESTIGATOR
Then do it. Well you won’t.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
MICHELLE
That’s not true.
INVESTIGATOR
Who handed the gun to Dan?
MICHELLE
I didn’t see anybody hand the gun to Dan.
INVESTIGATOR
Well not anybody, were just down to you and Josh, there’s nobody else in the car. Did you hand it to
him? Yes, no?
MICHELLE
No.
INVESTIGATOR
Was there two guns in the car? Both your guns?
MICHELLE
I don’t if Josh brought both guns.
INVESTIGATOR
Tell me when you pulled the car around to look at her, tell me about that part.
MICHELLE
I didn’t ever see her.
INVESTIGATOR
You didn’t what?
MICHELLE
I didn’t see her, I didn’t do that. I knew 100 percent that did not happen.
INVESTIGATOR
Didn’t like high-five and tell him what an awesome bad-ass he was.
MICHELLE
No that’s disgusting.
INVESTIGATOR
Didn’t like go back to the room and have celebratory sex over that? Do you remember that?
MICHELLE
No!
INVESTIGATOR
I’m just asking this stuff because I have to put the pieces out of this.
MICHELLE
I understand but that’s disgusting.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
INVESTIGATOR
Well you know what’s going on with Josh?
MICHELLE
What’s going on with Josh?
INVESTIGATOR
Let me step out and see what Josh is telling us, he’s sitting in a room doing the same thing your doing,
hopefully being honest with us, you said he’s made some changes hopefully he’s decided to do the right
thing. Alright. I’ll be right back.
(INVESTIGATORS LEAVE)
(MICHELLE STARTS PRAYING AND CRYING)
(INVESTIGATORS COME BACK)
INVESTIGATOR
Having a break out? You having a breakout think? Help jog the memory at all?
MICHELE
No. Certainly make people remember stuff, like what’s happened the other day, this made me wonder
more and more about what was real and what wasn’t.
INVESTIGATOR
Well all the stuff I told you when we left, that’s all true. That about you being wrapped up in a homicide
investigation that’s all true. So, Josh, you know if you tell me what you saw happened, it would get
somebody off the lag.
MICHELE
I really wish I could. I do. How simple would that be.
INVESTIGATOR
That would be great, yeah. What’s holding you back from doing that?
MICHELE
I don’t remember, I don’t have it.
INVESTIGATOR
It’s in there, I mean you and i both know its in there, about the dark, middle of the night, something
really bad happens, alright?
MICHELE
She didn’t, she didn’t get raped, did she? Did she?
INVESTIGATOR
I haven’t got the test back from them, that’s one of the things they check to see if she got raped. You
think that’s possible?
MICHELE
I don’t- I guess I do or I wouldn’t have asked.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
INVESTIGATOR
I mean if she was, we will find out.
MICHELE
Yeah.
INVESTIGATOR
Well that’s why we have to go to the lab tech people to find out. I mean do you think its possible she got
raped and then killed or?
MICHELE
I don’t know.
INVESTIGATOR
I mean was there ever a time when josh was with her where he could have sesually assaulted her?
MICHELE
Sure, I just remember what it feels like, we let each other go long enough to like be away from each
other long enough to do anything without each other, I mean go pee or something.
INVESTIGATOR
Okay, so there was sometime in that window where you were away from Josh at all?
MICHELE
Not that I remember.
INVESTIGATOR
Is it possible Josh could have shot her and you wouldn’t have known that?
MICHELE
No.
INVESTIGATOR
Is it possible Dan could have shot her and you wouldn’t have known that?
MICHELE
No, I don’t know.
INVESTIGATOR
Just pull that little piece out, and tell me, you know what happened you were there, they’re yelling, and
she’s calling him names, he’s saying she’s a crazy bitch you know that.
MICHELE
(CRYING)
I wish I could say he did that and then just like get rid of her after that butINVESTIGATOR
Well if you can’t pull up that piece, then what about right after she got shot? Pull that piece out.
Because its right there, its right there.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
MICHELE
Right there.
INVESTIGATOR
What’s that?
MICHELE
You think it’s right there.
MAN
Yeah. What did Dan say, right after she got shot, what’s the firs thing you remember Dan saying?
MICHELE
I didn’t see her getting shot.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah, what did Dan say when he got back in the car?
MICHELE
It’s like, before we left, it’s just like, lets leave that crazy bitch here, or something just like that.
INVESTIGATOR
But she was already dead then right?
MICHELE
I didn’t know she was dead.
INVESTIGATOR
When did you find out she was dead?
MICHELE
I thought might have happened to her like that just this, yucky feeling.
INVESTIGATOR
Had a bad feeling like something happened to her?
MICHELE
Or, not even her, just like something bad happened, that next afternoon, or then maybe the next one
after that. So next thing I knew I started to sober up I guess because I was still pretty at it, made a drink
the next day a little bit, because the withdrawals were all bad and shaking, you know that whole thing.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah.
MICHELE
And then I heard something weird, thought it was RadioShack but I think we were at Target and there
was something on the news and it just said random violence something something, and something
about it just struck me like.
INVESTIGATOR
That’s when you made the connection?
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
MICHELE
Yeah like something clicked in my head like something, but I didn’t know that she was dead still didn’t.
INVESTIGATOR
You were pretty close to Josh did you talk to him about that then?
MICHELE
No but I know he was acting real quiet too after that, he never said anything.
INVESTIGATOR
So what did you, when did you finally made the connection between something bad happened and oh
shit that’s where we were, oh shit that girl, when did you make that connection?
MICHELE
I really didn’t know she dead until I was in an office in Kelso, and he came in was a homicide detective,
then I knew the whole bad feelings, and I know its selfish, its so selfish, but it was, like my own Vietnam,
you know.
INVESTIGATOR
I kind of get that was terrible traumatic, another terrible traumatic incident for you but a lot freaking
worse for that other girl, she’s dead.
MICHELE
You know what, I wish they would have killed me but I know it sounds terrible.
MAN
You wish who would have killed you.
MICHELE
Those boys that hurt me.
INVESTIGATOR
Were going back to your earlier trauma.
MICHELE
Yeah, everything I remember about Tiffany, I liked her, like, everything I remember, we- seems like good
girl.
MAN
I mean its common to connect a little bit even, is that the first time you met her?
MICHELE
Yeah, I mean I can’t remember talking to her very much. At first, it was the first and then its, and seeing
so much and just friends here and there and laughing and laughing.
INVESTIGATOR
Yeah that’s all good stuff, I mean that’s why we’re here because we want to do the right thing for her,
and I think you do too. So, what do you think the best thing to do be for her sake?
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
MICHELE
I want to lie to you, and just tell you there’s just so much uncertainty, just like, make it all solve it but I
can’t.
INVESTIGATOR
Again, I don’t want you to lie to me, I mean I’m having a hard with finding the whole truth already.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Hey Michelle, can you look at me just for a second. I’ve been part of this investigation for a while and
I’ve seen a lot of things that Craig hasn’t seen, like he had to explain were all doing different aspects of it
right, I’ve been up, I was at the motel, I’ve seen stuff that was in your car, in your room, I’ve looked at all
your pictures, on your phone, your videos your camera, all that stuff, the hard part I have, and I
understand the trauma in your life, I understand things that have happened to you, and I also know that
you can look around here and probably see all of us and know that we probably had trauma in our life
too, and that part sucks it really sucks, but show me somebody that hasn’t had something happened in
their past and ill give you a million bucks right, you know what I’m talking about. We need to separate
that crap out from tonight because that’s, I know you’re a strong person, I saw your videos, like I said I
saw your pictures. You mentioned before you know when Craig was talking about the sex stuff, “that’s
disgusting” I know you don’t mean that, I know you have a different world that you kind of live in, tell
me really quick, what do you do for a living? What’s your job? What were you doing?
MICHELE
Funeral director.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Okay, what would you do, would you do stuff with bodies? Like prep them, and that kind of thing?
MICHELE
Yeah.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Okay, would you do any embalming anything like that?
MICHELE
Yeah.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Okay, and that takes, a certain personality, I respect that I’ve always wondered you know the people
that do that kind of stuff, because today I went to an autopsy I had a death on a different case and I look
at that and I see the end result of it, I see what happens like you would right, you go into work and you
see, you wonder what’s happened to old joe there that’s laying on the table that you’re having to deal
with right, and you kind of wonder what happened to him and how that all happened and what it felt
like or maybe, some of that has got to be going through your mind, does that ever happen do you ever
look at that and wonder what their story was, how it make you feel or anything like that.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
MICHELE
That job makes me sad that’s why I got out of it, when I was younger, and then like, went to counseling
and some home care work and then sort of get back into it, it’s really reallyINVESTIGATOR 2
Depressing? I can understand that.
MICHELE
Depressing but at the same time working with families and helping them through is like the same kind of
normalcy in life, its feel like you help somebody.
INVESTIGATOR 2
That’s good, I’m glad you like to help people.
MICHELE
I wasn’t saying its disgusting for us to have sex or whatever its just the high-fiving and celebrating that
the disgusting.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Okay, that’s understandable, can I ask you about the bracelet you’re wearing? Is it I love my daughter is
that what it is? You love Madeleine quite a bit?
MICHELE
Yeah, she’s got one that says I love my mom.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Right on.
MICHELE
Its pink and she hates pink.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Oh she hates pink? And you’re wearing pink and you have a purple bracelet. I’m assuming as a good
parent, you’re not going to teach your child to lie right?
MICHELE
She doesn’t lie.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Yeah, and would she be upset if she knew you were lying?
MICHELE
I’m not lying.
INVESTIGATOR 2
I didn’t say, I was asking if she would be upset if she thought you were lying.
MICHELE
Yeah.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
INVESTIGATOR 2
I’m sure you teach her the right thing, right?
MICHELE
I do my best.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Like Craig was saying, this is a lot of shit to bare on your back and on your plate right now, and the best
way to deal with it is get it off your chest, throw it on there, I know that we’ve all, Craig and I have both
been cops for over 20 years and we’ve seen a lot of crap, and to get that off your chest and talk about it
is probably the best relief and you know that, I know you know that.
MICHELE
It was when we, as much as it hurt, to know that the yucky feeling that we knew something was wrong,
you know more and more like as the week went on, and then to feel like it was us, in some ways.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Michelle, look at me, okay Michelle, okay, the hardest thing I’m having to understand here, is how your
turning yourself into such a victim with this, like I know, hear me out, like Craig has said, this girl that
we’re talking about is dead, we’re not here for another reason, she is dead.
MICHELE
I know that.
INVESTIGATOR 2
You know that. Okay, the feelings you have inside are miniscule compared to what this girl was feeling
before she died, the problem I’m having is going from, let’s break this down, is that night watching you
guys on video, I’ve seen the video I was there, I looked at Club Mystic, I looked at Club 205, I’m seeing
you arm in arm, happy, you know holding each other, remember that? Going form club to club across
the street, and seeing the video watching you guys inside having drinks, kind of looking for that perfect
evening, you guys look for something that you find at that bar that night, Tiffany is looking for
something that she finds that bar that night as well, its kind of perfect storm, she’s in the wrong place at
the wrong time doing the wrong thing. You’re in the right place your group the right time and it just all
falls into place, you guys go back to the car get in the vehicle, drive as you said make a few stops, and
then at blue lake, have you ever been to blue lake before?
MICHELE
No.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Never? Never as a kid? Michelle look at me. Never like took your daughter there? Nothing? I remember
going there as a kid and they used to have like a big pig or something like that you stick the garbage in
you remember that? Some like big garbage cans? Nothing?
MICHELE
I didn’t grow up around here, like near but.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Yeah, somewhere close. So now your out there, and you talk about going to the bushes and having sex
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
right, and the picture your trying to paint for me, I mean never talked to you before, is that you two
were int the bushes, feet away, several feet away, not that far but pretty damn close to the car, close to
where tiffany and dan probably are, you’ve been shooting you said before with your family, your dad,
you know what guns sound like, are they loud or are they quiet?
MICHELE
Super loud.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Super loud. And, in the middle of the night, what do people usually see when a gun goes off?
MICHELE
The other detective already asked me, and he said I would have saw a flash.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Did you?
MICHELE
No.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Okay, so if you told him that you didn’t see a flash, or anything, anything from the gun, there’s no way
on god’s green earth that you can sit here and tell me that you did not hear something that was that
loud and that big, it’s going to make everybody draw attention and say what the hell was that, it’s going
to stop you dead in your track from having sex or whatever I guarantee it, and I know that’s what
happened, you can’t tell me it didn’t you know that’s god’s honest truth, do your daughter a favor, tell
the truth.
MICHELE
I am.
INVESTIGATOR 2
No you’re not Michele. You know what happened, if this was in like a giant 20-mile field I can
understand that but your standing next to it.
WOMAN
I can’t keep saying.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Michele, you have the gun in your purse, you told us that, the gun’s in your purse.
MICHELE
Its not exactly where we put it-it doesn’t matter.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Well it does matter. You know it matters. The whole part of how that gun gets to Dan or to Josh or from
you, its everything in that whole in between story is just so conveniently a blur.
MICHELE
Josh knows what, how, when he gave Dan that gun, I didn’t see it, the exchange.
Michelle Warden Brosey 2 HOUR MINUTE INTERVIEW
INVESTIGATOR 2
Did you drive the car that night? The whole night?
MICHELE
Yeah, I think so.
INVESTIGATOR 2
So when you’re at Blue Lake and your getting outside, correct me if I’m wrong, and you sex with Josh?
Correct? Okay and, you’re still telling me right now, can you look at me Michele I’m looking at you I’m
not being disrespectful, okay, all I want is you to look at me, and you’re trying to tell me that you did not
hear a gun go off.
MICHELE
I did not hear a gun go off.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Are you telling me that you did not see him shoot that girl?
MICHELE
I didn’t see anybody shoot anything.
INVESTIGATOR 2
And you’re also telling me that you get back in that car then? And what do you do after you get back in
that car? Do you ask a question?
MICHELE
I don’t know.
INVESTIGATOR 2
You don’t ask what the hell was that noise?
MICHELE
I don’t remember hearing the noise. I wish I did.
INVESTIGATOR 2
What?
MICHELE
I wish I did.
INVESTIGATOR 2
You know this information Michele, why don’t you want to tell us?
MICHELE
I don’t need to like.
INVESTIGATOR 2
You know what the hardest thing to do? When people make up lies its hard to remember those things
that we’ve lied about are, the truth is always easy, because you know what our brain does? It snaps
those pictures it knows exactly what that truth is when you lie you kind of have to override those
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pictures in your mind and make up something else, that’s hard, that is not easy, do you know when your
daughter lies, you can tell right?
MICHELE
Sometimes.
INVESTIGATOR 2
I think you can, you’re probably a good mother. You can pick up on that, same with us were good at
what we do.
MICHELE
I know.
INVESTIGATOR 2
You, let me uh, let’s talk about the stuff that’s in your car, lets just jump ahead, lets go to where you
leave that scene, okay, and the things are in your car are things in your motel, I mean one easy thinking
you may have seen this already, do you recognize that? A picture of a parking tag inside your car.
MICHELE
No, I don’t, yeah, I don’t know what you’re asking me I’m sorry.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Okay this the parking lot from Portland, the date on it is October 8, this is the parking tag that was found
in your car, do you have a car? Okay this tag was in your car, and this is where you guys drove and took
Dan to the bus stop, do you recall that? Okay that’s from that. So, you took him and dropped him off the
bus do you remember all that portion?
MICHELE
Yeah.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Ring a bell? No Michele no you’re not doing that, sit up, I want to show you some more things.
MICHELE
It’s getting pretty late.
INVESTIGATOR 2
What’s that?
MICHELE
It’s getting late. I don’t want to.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Michele you need to deal with one more thing here look, Michele, if you think you can run away from
this and not deal with it you’re mistaken, you’re going to have to deal with it, burying your head in the
sand and looking away, you guys did some sadistic shit that night, you guys went to the bar, picked up a
girl took her out and murdered her. You understand that Michele? Michele? Alright you can’t hide from
that Michele.
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MICHELE
Get me a fucking lawyer, right now, right now, right now, take me to the fucking hospital, I know I you
can take me right now.
INVESTIGATOR 2
Okay, we’re going to put handcuffs on you, if you wont answer our questions, we want you to relax a
little bit and I don’t want you to resist, alright.
INVESTIGATOR
Relax calm down.
INVESTIGATOR 2
We do this all the time nobody gets hurt.
(They cuff her)
INVESTIGATOR 2
Relax your hands. Just double locking them so you don’t hurt your hand. Relax.
INVESTIGATOR
I’m just going to tell you I’m not going to ask you anything so you’re in custody you’re under arrest,
you’re in jail, so in jail they are going to ask you questions about your health and you need to be honest
about that. So- if you think you need to be placed in like a suicide watch, just tell them that and they will
check up on you, because we don’t want you hurting yourself. And your going to be charged with
hindering prosecution and those charges all stem from your involvement in this homicide, you’re also
going to be charge with conspiracy to commit homicide, for your involvement in this, it’s a A felony, I
think the bail on that one is like, its either 250 thousand 500 thousand dollars. They will figure it out,
Josh is also going to jail for the same thing. You got any questions for me? Michele do you have any
questions?
MICHELE
No.
INVESTIGATOR
We’ll step out of the room and get you a transport office to take you to jail.
(THEY LEAVE)
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