[prev in list] [next in list] [prev in thread] [next in thread] List: Subject: From: Date: Message-ID: novell Re: NCP and "internet friendly" "Joseph Haynes" <jhaynes () mwc ! edu> 2004-04-08 12:59:38 s075150d.070 () mwcgw ! mwc ! edu [Download RAW message or body] Is CIFS really more "Intnernet friendly" than NCP? I mean, do you really want to open up CIFS to the Internet now days? CIFS is basically SMB with a new name. Also, CIFS is Micro$ofts idea on how file sharing should be done. Does that make Stone feel better about it being "friendly"? Has Microsoft released complete and detailed protocol specifications for the protocol? If they have I think it would be a first. Also, the last I read CIFS still needs NETBIOS functions to operate. NETBIOS requires broadcasts or WINS servers to operate. Even if they try to use DNS as a replacement for WINS it doesn't change that fact. I really do not see CIFS as a more Internet friendly or more firendly in any other way than NCP. Hopefully Stone can tell us more. >>> randygrein@comcast.net 4/8/2004 12:11:25 AM >>> There are two definitions of Internet friendly. The first is a brain-dead definition; http/https. Shoehorning all network traffic into one protocol regardless of suitability (you DO realize that TCP/IP, like all other protocol suites is, in fact made up of a number of protocols?) is more than a little stupid. Do we cram everything into VW vans on the road? The second definition has more to do with suitability. An 'Internet friendly' protocol needs to have fairly low overhead, not be chatty, and tolerate a wide range of connection speeds and link latencies. It should set up the connection, transfer the necessary information and sign off with a minimum number of packets. NCP fails this test - it was designed to work well locally, and suffers serious performance degradation over many router hops. This doesn't make it bad in any sense, it's just unsuitable for use on a worldwide network. That's not really an issue for local use, but the ignorant will try to make it out to be one. NOTHING scales infinitely - if you think it can, try using TCP/IP on a solar system sized Internet. Randy Grein, Master CNE, CCNA On Apr 7, 2004, at 8:50 AM, Debbie Carraway wrote: > Hi all, > > I've heard the Chris Stone comment repeated a bit NCP > not "internet friendly"? > > I've been able to log in and map drives since the > NCP works fine through my firewall device at home > works with VPN (of course). It's using TCP/IP for > > I must have my blinders on. What am I missing? > > Thanks, > > Debbie > > -> Debbie Carraway > Information Technology Division > North Carolina State University > Ph: 919-515-5498 AIM: DeborahCarraway > > http://microsys.unity.ncsu.edu > > _______________________________________________ > Novell mailing list > Novell@netlab1.usu.edu > http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell > - in what way is NetWare 5.0 days. if I open up 524, heaven's sake. _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell@netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell _______________________________________________ Novell mailing list Novell@netlab1.usu.edu http://netlab1.usu.edu/mailman/listinfo/novell [prev in list] [next in list] [prev in thread] [next in thread] Configure | About | News | Add a list | Sponsored by KoreLogic