Downloaded from ascelibrary.org by New York University on 05/12/15. Copyright ASCE. For personal use only; all rights reserved. Discussion by John K. McDonald,5 Member, ASCE Four causes of small concentrated leaks in impervious sections of embankment dams are listed in the paper and three of them are discussed. The remaining one, construction deficiencies, would seem to be an obvious problem with an obvious solution. However, some aspects of construction that are in accordance with good modern practice may be the cause of many cracks and leaks that have been ascribed to more esoteric origins, such as hydraulic fracture. About 15 years ago the technicians at a federal government dam in the midsouth area were having trouble in securing monolithic block samples for laboratory testing. No matter what care was taken, the blocks fell apart because there were so many parting planes in the compacted soil. The problem initially was blamed on the use of a new type of earth compaction roller. The writer examined the site as a representative of the manufacturer and observed the test fills that were made to try and isolate the real cause of the problem. The soil was a silty clay and it was being compacted at wet of optimum moisture. In the borrow pit, numerous instances of "pancaking"—the formation of thin layers of clay that could be peeled apart—could be seen where the earth carriers had been operating. On the fill surface, especially where the earth carrier traffic was concentrated, a little hand work with a pick would allow huge sheets of clay to be separated and peeled back for 10-12 ft. The impression was that these cracks went on for an indefinite distance. Perhaps, in line with the principal author's ideas, some form of hydraulic fracturing was occurring that allowed the cracks to propagate laterally. It was hoped at the time that these cracks did not extend through the whole width of the impervious section and that they would heal with time. Two test fills were made, one for the older and one for the newer type of compacter. The earth carriers delivered the soil but then immediately got off the test fills. The result was that both test fills produced good block samples. The newer compacter was allowed to stay and orders were given to rip up the badly pancaked areas and recompact them. As far as is known, no changes in procedure were made as a result of this test. The compactive contributions of the tires of the earth carriers are well recognized, and normal practice is to spread out the traffic to cover as much of the fill surface as possible. However, in this instance (and probably in many more instances as well), the tires caused more trouble with cracks than the good they did in compaction. It is suggested that a better procedure would be to confine the earth carriers to a defined haul road that they could leave only to dump soil and then to return immediately. The haul road would have to be frequently ripped up, dozed to one side, and then recompacted in layers by the compacters before additional soil could be brought in to raise the level of the haul road. The recommendations of the paper are very concise and helpful. A good downstream filter seems to be a critical necessity at present, but with more attention given to the prevention of pancakes, the impervious sections 'Consulting Engr., 10116 SE Stanley Ave., Portland, OR 97222. 226 J. Geotech. Engrg. 1988.114:226-227. Downloaded from ascelibrary.org by New York University on 05/12/15. Copyright ASCE. For personal use only; all rights reserved. could better perform their function and keep the downstream filters from having to work so hard. It may also be that the hydraulic fracturing phenomenon could be less of a problem than has been feared. SEISMIC STABILITY OF GENTLE INFINITE SLOPES3 Discussion by D. R. Phatak3 and V. M. Karbhari4 The authors presented an interesting paper to evaluate the effects of seismic accelerations on gentle infinite slopes, and it is a valuable contribution to the study of seismic stability. This discussion is related to the effect of the component of acceleration normal to the slope, neglected in the original paper. The writers believe that this component cannot be neglected, even in the case of gentle infinite slope in cases where the factor of safety approaches 1. Using the authors' convention, the factor of safety is computed as FSt = ( 1 - — ) „ ~ n • cos p tan <f>' r y 7, J K + sin (3 (19) Using the same nomenclature and representing K' as the acceleration in g normal to the slope, the factor of safety as advocated by the writers is _ / mym \ (1-/0(1-*') (1 - K') sin p + K cos (3 tan <> j (20) So as to find out which factor of safety would be relevant in the case of a gentle infinite slope under threat of failure (i.e., factor of safety very close to 1), a computer program was run, and demonstrative results are given in Table 4. For the case considering accelerations normal to the slope, the table clearly shows that there is a significant change in the factor of safety. This is significant for a slope which is just on the point of failure (i.e., FS1 close to unity), and for such slopes, it is felt that both accelerations, normal and parallel to the slope, must be considered. "June 1985, Vol. Ill, No. 6, by Tarik Hadj-Hamou and Edward Kavazanjian, Jr. (Paper 19785). 3 Asst. Prof, of Civ. Engrg., Coll. of Engrg., Pune, Maharashtra State, India. 4 Postgrad. Stud., Coll. of Engrg., Pune, Maharashtra State, India. 227 J. Geotech. Engrg. 1988.114:226-227.