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No Horsetrading: Trump Won’t Deal and Dems Don’t Trust Him in a Deal
Davis and Tackett 1/2/19 [Julie Hirschfeld and Michael, “Trump Rejects Potential Shutdown
Compromise as He Prepares to Meet Congressional Leaders”, NY Times,
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/02/us/politics/trump-congress-shutdown.html
President Trump on Wednesday torched a compromise that his own vice president floated with
Democrats last month to stave off a government funding lapse, saying $2.5 billion in border security spending
was insufficient as he renewed calls for $5 billion for his border wall amid a shutdown that has stretched into its 12th day. He also
rejected suggestions from Republican senators that negotiators revive a compromise that would twin
border-wall money with legislation to shield young immigrants brought to the country illegally as
children from deportation and grant them legal work permits. The comments ahead of a meeting with
congressional leaders set back any notion that the shutdown could be nearing a negotiated end. They were a remarkable
public rejection of a plan that Vice President Mike Pence broached with Democrats behind closed
doors 12 days ago, in the hours before a midnight deadline to avert a shutdown, and which his team has quietly continued to
push in the days since. And they confirmed the concerns of Democratic leaders who had privately
questioned whether they could trust senior White House officials to broker any compromise that
could then be rejected by a mercurial president who has often shifted his position at the last moment,
especially when it comes to immigration. “No, not $2.5 billion, no — we’re asking for $5.6” billion, Mr. Trump said
during a cabinet meeting, hours before he was scheduled to host Republican and Democratic congressional leaders for a border
security briefing in the White House Situation Room. The larger figure refers to the amount Mr. Trump has demanded for the wall,
which the House endorsed in a vote last month, but which failed to garner even majority support in the Senate, where it would need
60 votes to prevail.
No Horsetrading – Democrats Will Not Make Any Deals
Smith 1/2/19 [Allan, NBCNews, https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/pelosi-has-messagetrump-nothing-wall-n953996
Speaker-designate Nancy
Pelosi told NBC's "Today" show in an interview set to air Thursday that she will not provide
President Donald Trump with the border wall funding he has demanded and shut down the
government over. Asked by NBC's Savannah Guthrie if she was willing to give up any money specifically for the border wall,
Pelosi said "no." "We can go through the back and forth," Pelosi said in a clip that aired on MSNBC on Wednesday. "No. How many
more times can we say no? Nothing for the wall." Twitter Ads info and privacy Pelosi's comments come one day
before she is set to take over the House speakership on Thursday. The government shutdown has now stretched into its second week,
with hundreds of thousands of government workers furloughed from their jobs. Earlier Wednesday, Trump said at a Cabinet
meeting that the shutdown will last "as long as it takes," adding that it "could be a long time, or it could be quickly." Congress was
unable to agree on a spending measure to keep the government open last month once the president insisted he would not sign such
legislation unless it included $5 billion in funding for a massive wall along the U.S. border with Mexico. House Democrats will
quickly move to pass short-term spending legislation upon taking control on Thursday, talhough it is unlikely that measure would
pass the Senate and be signed by Trump.
No horsetrading – The Democrats Can’t Give Trump a Wall Due to their Base
Bacon 12/21/18 [Perry Jr. “Why Fights Over Immigration Keep Shutting Down the Government”,
FiveThirtyEight, THE best and most unbiased political analysis available,
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-fights-over-immigration-keep-shutting-down-thegovernment/
Let me avoid making this a both-sides story: For the most part, Democrats are more aligned with overall public opinion on
immigration. The majority
of voters want undocumented young people who were brought to the U.S. as children to be
protected from deportation, and Democrats’ demand for that provision that led to last winter’s shutdown. Likewise, most
voters don’t support a border wall, but Trump is driving toward a shutdown in pursuit of a wall, an
idea that many congressional Republicans are fairly lukewarm about.
That said, America did elect a president (in 2016) and a Senate majority (in 2016 and 2018) who belong to the party that is generally
less supportive of immigration, so either there is some appetite for a middle ground or immigration is not a deal-breaker issue for
, it would be logical for the two sides to find a compromise. But the shifts the
parties have undergone in the last 10 or so years make such a compromise hard to execute.
Democratic leaders can’t easily sign on to any funding for a wall that their base thinks is a physical
monument to racism, particularly since the top Democratic leaders are white but much of the party
base is not. Trump can’t easily give up on the wall, since he basically campaigned on the idea that America needs a wall to remain
many Americans. Either way
a great nation.
So we’re already at two shutdowns involving immigration policy in the Trump era — and I would not rule out a few more.