How Return Loss Gets its Ripples

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Return Loss Ripples
How Return Loss Gets its Ripples
an homage to Rudyard Kipling
Dr. Eric Bogatin, Signal Integrity
Evangelist, Bogatin Enterprises
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Return Loss Ripples
45 Minute Speed Training
•
Virtually every measured or
simulated return loss (S11) shows
“ripples”
•
Sometimes, insertion loss also shows
ripples
•
Why?
•
What does it tell us about the
interconnect?
S21
Differential Response, dB
0
Differential Response
0
-10
-20
-30
S11
-10
-20
-30
-40
0
-40
0
1
2
3
4
5
6
freq, GHz
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8
9
10
1
2
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4
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9
10
freq, GHz
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Return Loss Ripples
2 Port S-Parameters
Applies to single-ended and differential S-parameters
Magnitude
and phase
Detector
50Ω
V
source
DUT
Z 0 = 50Ω
~
•
Z0 = 50Ω
50Ω
S11: Return loss
magnitude/
phase
detector
It is the reflected signal
Impedance mismatch from 50 ohms throughout
the interconnect
A little about losses
•
Transparent interconnect:
S11: large, negative dB
S21: small, negative dB
S21: Insertion loss
It is the transmitted signal
Impedance mismatches throughout the
interconnect
Losses
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Return Loss Ripples
Connection Between Insertion and
Return Loss
S21
Vincident
S11
Vreflected
How is S11 related to S21?
S11 + S21 = 1
Vtransmitted
There is no such thing as conservation of voltage
There is conservation of energy
Energy in a wave ~ V2
In a lossless interconnect
2
S 21 = 1 − S11
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2
1 = S11
+ S 221 + losses
Sources of loss:
- conductor
- dielectric
- coupling (cross talk)
- radiation
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Return Loss Ripples
For Lossless Interconnect:
Insertion Loss from Return Loss
dB(S21_sim)
When plotted in dB, relationship
between S11 and S21 looks unusual
0.0
-0.5
-1.0
2
S 21 = 1 − S11
-1.5
-2.0
-2.5
-3.0
-3.5
-4.0
-4.5
-5.0
-50 -45 -40 -35 -30 -25 -20 -15 -10 -5
0
dB(S11_sim)
S11 of < -10 dB yields S21 > -0.5 dB
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Return Loss Ripples
How Reflections Result in Return,
Insertion Loss Ripples
Z0 < 50 Ohms
S21
50 Ω
50 Ω
At low frequency
ALL interconnects
are transparent
When Len << ¼ λ
½
0
min S11
0
0
0
max S21
S11
0
• When Len << ¼ λ
Reflections from front and back, 180 deg
out of phase
No net reflection, all transmitted waves in
phase and add
S11 large negative dB, S21 nearly 0 db
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Return Loss Ripples
When Len = ¼ λ, S21 Lowest, S11
Highest
Z0 < 50 Ohms
S21
When Len << ¼ λ
½
0
min S11
0
0
0
max S21
S11
0
When Len = 1/4 λ
½
max S11
¼
¼+0
½
½+0
min S21
¾
• When Len = (½ x n + ¼ ) λ
Max S11, min S21
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Return Loss Ripples
When Z0 ≠ 50 Ohms, Multiple Reflections
From The Terminations Cause Ripples
Z0 < 50 Ohms
S21
When Len << ¼ λ
½
0
min S11
0
0
0
max S21
S11
0
When Len = 1/4 λ
½
max S11
¼+0
½
½+0
¼
min S21 • When Len = n x ½ λ
Reflected waves from front and back subtract
¾
Minimum reflected signal
Transmitted waves all in phase, S21 max
• As frequency increases, insertion, return loss
increase, decrease
When Len = ½ λ
½
½+0
min S11
1 1+0
½
max S21
1½
Longer distance between reflections, shorter the frequency between
high and low
Larger the impedance difference, the larger the modulation
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Return Loss Ripples
Shorter the Distance,
Farther Apart the Ripples
∆f =
1
2TD
3 inches is ~ 1 GHz spacing
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Return Loss Ripples
Every ½ λ, Another Dip
∆f =
1
2TD
• Frequency spacing is a measure of
distance between discontinuities
• Case 1:
TD = 1 nsec
Freq between dips is 1/2nsec = 500 MHz
• Case 2:
TD = 0.5 nsec
Frequency between dips is ½ x 2 GHz =1 GHz
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Return Loss Ripples
Larger the Impedance Difference,
Larger the Modulation Dips
Z0 = 40 Ohms
Z0 = 30 Ohms
Z0 = 20 Ohms
When return loss is less than ~ – 13 dB, insertion loss impact is < 1 db
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Return Loss Ripples
Add Some Jazz
• Impedance mismatch on
the ends
• Add attenuation
• Add multiple
discontinuities
• Fine features increase,
general structure stays
the same
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Return Loss Ripples
Two Uniform, Tightly Coupled
Stripline Traces
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•
What are the
features of S11,
S21?
•
What does it say
about impedance
variations?
•
How would you
interpret the
results?
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Return Loss Ripples
The Pop Quiz
•
What are the features of S11, S21?
•
What does it say about impedance
variations?
•
Why does spacing between ripples
change with frequency?
•
How would you interpret the results?
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Return Loss Ripples
Extra Credit
• Why does S11 increase at higher frequency?
• What happened to the ripples?
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Return Loss Ripples
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Return Loss Ripples
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