Old Fashioned Great Debate Group Leader Insights Why are Christians against Fifty Shades of Grey? It’s interesting the OLD FASHIONED is coming out at the same time. One movie is about sex and abuse leading to love, which many people would quickly label fantasy. Of course, harmful might be a much better label. The other movie is about two people moving out of abusive pasts, who know that sex alone guarantees nothing relationally. Is there really hope for old-fashioned, godly romance in today’s culture? Is OLD FASHIONED just a reaction to Fifty Shades? OLD FASHIONED was written and produced long before Fifty Shades. But it’s fair to say the movie is a powerful response to today’s hookup culture that informs Fifty Shades of Grey. How would you describe the differences between the movies’ main characters? In both movies the male lead carries deep and hidden wounds. From there, however, the storylines part: • In Fifty Shades, a wealthy man pursues pleasure; in OLD FASHIONED, a man leaves wealth to pursue truth, in hopes of finding meaning and pleasure. • In Fifty Shades, the contract is license for the man to indulge in hurting his lover. In OLD FASHIONED, the contract (marriage) commits the man to the woman’s well being. • In Fifty Shades, a naive young woman succumbs to a man’s mystery and force; in OLD FASHIONED, a worldly young woman is undone by a man’s candor and kindness. • In Fifty Shades, two people explore their dark desires; in OLD FASHIONED, two people are finding their way out of the dark. • In Fifty Shades, one man creatively causes pain; in OLD FASHIONED, one man creatively builds emotional intimacy. • Fifty Shades idealizes bondage and helplessness; OLD FASHIONED celebrates mutual freedom. • Fifty Shades is clearly fantasy. OLD FASHIONED is truly human. Is it wrong to see Fifty Shades? Movies help shape culture. Picture a young woman you care about. Does she sit and eat her popcorn while watching a pretend story of dominance, wealth, power and emotional weakness? Or is she better off investing two hours watch a couple ditch the Me-First Romance Rulebook as they opt for godly romance and love? Why do you think the Fifty Shades book has been so popular? It likely has a lot to do with basic human longing. OLD FASHIONED says, given that longing, think past the moment: not all that glitters is love. Some of what excites ultimately can harm. Mystery can mask real harm … and a relationship with God is the glue for the long haul. Will OLD FASHIONED be as successful as Fifty Shades? In a hookup, me-first culture, OLD FASHIONED is a bold step backward. Some people will leave the movie encouraged or wistful. Every time OLD FASHIONED— especially in contrast to a concurrent film about bondage and fantasy—stirs it up for men and women about what they want from life, from a relationship, it will be a success. Old Fashioned Great Debate Group Discussion Questions 1. What possible harm (or gain) could come from watching or reading Fifty Shades Of Grey? 2. Why do you think Fifty Shades Of Grey is so wildly popular among women— including Christian women? 3. Do you think some would say the OLD FASHIONED message is naive or unrealistic? What do you think? 4. What is chivalry and why does it matter? Is it dead? Salvageable? Important? Biblical? 5. The Fifty Shades Of Grey message of high-thrills/high-risk/quick-sex dating is one form of “relationships.” Is there an alternative? 6. Is Christian Grey all wrong or bad? Is Clay Walsh all right or good? Why or why not? In other words, is this black and white or perhaps, is there some gray? 7. What are the dangers or benefits of fantasy, bondage, and pornography? 8. Is all pleasure good? If there’s a difference between good pleasure and bad pleasure, where is the line? Who decides? And how? 9. Does it really matter whom you date—or are intimate with? If so, why? 10. If you’re looking for a life partner, what’s the best way to get to know someone? 11. What is it in Fifty Shades Of Grey that attracts us? What is it in OLD FASHIONED that attracts us? Do those things have anything in common?