Session #68 802.16 GRIDMAN Opening Report
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2010-07-10
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Tim Godfrey
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Session #68 Opening Report / Agenda for GRIDMAN SG
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July 12, 2010
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• GRIDMAN Web site
• http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/16/sg/gridman
• PAR (80216-10/0018r2) approved by NESCOM on 18 June
2010.
• Continuing in Study Group mode for this session – voting open to all attendees
• Call for Contributions for 802.16n System Requirements
Document (80216GMAN-10/0022)
• Issued 4-15-2010 – will close this week
• http://ieee802.org/16/sg/gridman/#10_0022
• Focus for Session #68 will be on developing a draft of the
802.16n System Requirements Document (SRD) from the outline in document C80216gman-10/0022
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Date Time Details
Tuesday
13 July 2010
08:00-12:00
08:00-10:00
• Approve agenda & minutes, review patent slides, attendance, roster
• Review of C80216gman-10/0022
• Outline of SRD from Session #67
• Revisit 802.16n integration question: 802.16m only, or all of base?
• Discuss and develop work plan, SRD process
• Establish order of contribution presentations
• Contribution presentations
• Contribution presentations
10:00-12:00
Wednesday
14 July 2010
Thursday
15 July 2010
13:00-18:00
08:00-18:00
• Joint Session with PPC (M2M)
• M2M PAR and requirements overlap, schedule alignment
• Consolidation of text proposals
• Contribution presentations
• C80216gman-10_0027.doc
• C80216gman-10_0025.doc
• 802.16m-07-001r1
• Initial editing of draft System Requirements Document
• Review Work Plan, Schedule
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• Develop SRD
– Accept contributions through July 2010 meeting
– Approve D1.0
– Finalize Requirements section in September 2010
• System Architecture Reference Model (as an annex to SRD)
– In parallel, we can start to take contributions toward the spec
• System Design Document SDD
– SDD has value, but we can do it smarter than TGm – the purpose should be to define the architecture that defines the design. The SDD is the venue for defining the high-level features and architecture –
Maybe re-name it System Architecture.
– SDD did not work well for TGm because it became a consensus statement and took lots of realignment. (is there an option to “abandon” it at some point?)
– We don’t want to spend time on a “non-essential” document. On the other hand we need to have a well defined architecture before starting the actual spec.
• Alternate - Draft “outline” of specification prior to starting specification
– (issue with SDD process is that discussions have to occur twice)
– Reason for SDD was for ITU requirement.
– Could we make an “architecture” annex to the SRD? System Architecture Reference
Model.
– How does SAR gain “official” standing?
• Develop SRD
– Accept contributions through July 2010 meeting
– Approve D1.0.
– Call for comments on Draft 1.0 will be issued at end of July 2010
– Process comments, resolve, and refine D1.0 in September 2010
– Finalize and approve SRD Document in September 2010.
• Call for contributions for SARM and P802.16n Working Document
– Opening after September 2010 meeting, contributions to be presented at November 2010
– Develop System Architecture Reference Model (as an annex to SRD)
• We believe that the SARM is part of the SRD so it constrains the overall system architecture and is an official document.
– In parallel, will take contributions toward the baseline P802.16n Draft Standard and TOC
– Develop first draft of SARM annex (Nov ember 2010)
– Call for comments on first draft of SARM Annex (after November 2010)
– Editor issues Table of Contents for P802.16n Working Document (November 2010)
• From this point, contributions to working document are based on TOC
– Process comments on first draft of SARM annex, resolve and complete SARM Annex
– Finalize and Approve SARM annex to SRD (January 2011)
• Drafting of baseline P802.16n Working Document
– Develop P802.16n Working Document
– Contributions are voted into the working document
– Ballot Schedule….
– https://murphy.events.ieee.org/imat/index
– Now using Post-PAR slide set
– http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt
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– http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/16/sg/gridman/
– http://www.ieee802.org/16/sg/gridman/docs/80216gman
-10_0018r2.pdf
– http://www.ieee802.org/16/sg/gridman/contrib/C80216g man-10_0022.doc
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– C80216gman-10_0023.doc
Text proposal of 802.16n System Requirements Document (Section 6.2) |
• Kyungkyu Kim, Jungje Son, Youngbin Chang | Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd
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– C80216gman-10_0028.pdf
Proposed changes to 802.16n SRD|
• Youngbin Chang, Rakesh Taori and Jungje Son| Samsung
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– C80216gman-10_0024.doc
Text proposal to 802.16n System Requirements Document
• Eldad Zeira, Ron Murias | InterDigital
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– C80216gman-10_0026.doc
Proposed texts of 802.16n System Requirements
• Sungcheol Chang, Sungkyung Kim, Hyun Lee, Jaesun Cha, Chulsik Yoon| ETRI
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– C80216gman-10_0027.doc
Text proposal to 802.16n System Requirement Document (Section 6.1) |
• Anseok Lee, Wooram Shin, Hyun Jae Kim, Kwang Jae Lim | ETRI
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– C80216gman-10_0025.doc
Security considerations for mobile to mobile direct communications |
• Eldad Zeira, Alex Reznik| InterDigital
– 802.16m-07-001r1
• Military Deployment Scenarios for 802.16m - Mat Sherman BAE Systems
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• PPDR is a key component of TGn
• Rakesh suggest we preview contributions to see the full set of contributions then come back for decisions.
• We should not get hung up on the current PAR – it can be refined and changed if necessary.
• Consider requirements feature or mechanism at a time.
• M2M PAR has become very focused to low power, large # devices, and small burst transmissions.
• We will have ongoing coordination with M2M.
• Some requirements called for in 0023 may be above the MAC/PHY layer that is the limit of
802.16 scope. These will be called out in the SRD.
• There is a need to facilitate group calls in MAC and PHY. (maybe call it “Group
Connection”)
• Consider existing mesh technologies developed in IEEE802 – we should not take on too many functions at one time.
• Viewpoints:
– PPDR is an essential part of 16n and closely tied to robust and reliable networks, and should be a part of 16n
– PPDR perhaps should be part of 16p (but is not part of 16p PAR today)
– PPDR and Smart Grid are applications – the projects provide functionality to serve the applications.
• Key requirement 99.999% reliability of power – drives path redundancy.
• Link from home to pole is unclear what standard is used (could be Wi-Fi or WiMAX). From pole back to utility is definite scope for WiMAX
• Reliability of communications is not the same as reliability of power. Communications does not have to be co-located with power infrastructure
• Distributed Generation – will be a part of requirements for distribution
• Sensing and relaying parts are both of distribution –
• Five 9’s of reliability is for power – what is need for communication. They are related, but we don’t know the exact number.
• In-home infrastructure for demand response. Backhaul for HAN. Is that a requirement?
• Public vs private – is a private network a requirement? Yes we think there is a need for utility-owned and –operated networks. Is this a question we have to answer in 16n – does it drive the requirements?
• Performance requirements – should they be separated by what is already addressed? What about low latency – is that better handled in M2M? How does that interact with security and network entry? It is independent of the data burst time. Need further clarification.
• Kirsten – because these are smart grid, it doesn’t mean they belong in 16n.
• Should the 802.16n amendment be written to modify all Clauses of the base
802.16 standard?
– The 802.16m amendment has been written with separate PHY and MAC clauses. (section 16)
– To modify all functionality of 802.16-2009 as well as TGm we will have to make changes in two places.
• Straw Poll from Session #67
– Option 1: Make changes for 802.16-2009+16j (2009 as amended by 16j) and
16m: 5 votes
– Option 2: Make changes for 16m only (benefits of 16n only apply to 16m): 7 votes
• Is a hybrid possible? For example some capabilities such as mobile to mobile could be 16m only, but others apply to both.
• Conclusion: We don’t have to decide now – we need to complete the
SRD and decide the applicability when we have completed the SRD.
• Start of TG, Start SRD
• Approved SRD
• CFP issued
• System Design Doc
• Interim Doc
• WG LB issued
• Recirc 1
• Recirc 2
• Sponsor
• Approved Std
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